EPISODE 49: David Parker Ray's toy box part 2

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, Jesse.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Hello.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Lindsay, are we going to do that?

Speaker 2 (00:09):
What are we doing?

Speaker 1 (00:09):
I'm going to do a low monotone.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
This is Drink About Something and we have horrific
stories by Lindsay and I justwanted to share them with you.
Actually, I don't share shit,lindsay shares it, and I have to
endure Endure, endure, Endure.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
But, sir.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
endure or endure.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
It's endure, andore, andore.
Yeah, it's andore.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
And while I'm traveling through the galaxy of
all of her stories, she destroysme and this is what we do, and
we hope that this is a nice calm, subtle, subtle or subtle, it's
subtle.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Oh it is subtle, but I've heard people say subtle
like the space shuttle.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Anyhow, I hope this is a nice and calm, or, if
you're British, it's subtle,subtle.
Wow, lindsay, that was veryloud.
We don't get loud on thispodcast.
We're nice.
What are you drinking overthere, lindsey?
Happy birthday, lindsey weekend.
Holy shit, we're here.
Yeah, happy friday, everybody.
And this is not very subtle, sogo away if you don't like not

(01:19):
very mind the loudness and thewildness not very demure and the
alcoholisms and the storyisms.
We drink responsibly.
Yes, what are you drinking overthere?

Speaker 1 (01:29):
So Vista Bay at our local Aldi had an 8% version of
their Vista Bay hard seltzer andit's called Vista Bay hard
seltzer rush 8%, two carbs,gluten-free, all natural flavor
and it is blackberry is that anyside effects.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Go ahead and name all those off and you may die.
Tip the tongue to tip the lips.
Yes, all those I'm justdrinking like a pre-mixed thing
from Captain Morgan.
It's a Long Island iced tea.

(02:11):
Okay, in my nice little noquarters, no mercy, yukon.
Rattle cup, rattle cup, rattlecup and rattle cup, that's what
I'm drinking.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Well, let's go ahead and uh, cue that intro yes,
we're gonna get into the intro.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Happy friday everybody.
We hope you guys have a greatweekend and, uh, we're gonna
kick this thing off very wellyes, I don't know where we're
going with this oh, I thinkthat's too loud.
Fuck that, lindsey.
We're partying.
Happy friday, happy.
Friday, y'all can't see medancing, but these shoulders

(02:59):
though the rest of me cannotdance, but my shoulders can
dance.
So the whole theme behind thatthat I just came up with right
then and right there, it's likethose soft music radio shows,
you know.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Well, I thought of that one guy on Parks and Rec
when Leslie comes in.
Yes, exactly, exactly.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
That was the sounds of a saxophone that is being
muted by a tuba and a clarinetin the toilet.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yes, all in the toilet, the toilet.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
The toilet.
The toilet Sometimes.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
There's shit.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
There's shit on the outside of the toilet.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yes, there is.
Sometimes there is shit on theoutside of the urnus.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
That is a Letterkenny reference.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Please go watch.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Oh, yeah, you can binge the whole show in two days
.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
They're very short episodes Very funny, letterkenny
on Hulu and he walks in he'slike fucking Alexander, so we
don't even have to go into thewhole thing.
We just say fucking Alexander.
And we already know the rest ofthe story.
Yeah yeah, paul Harvey pops upright there as soon as we say
fucking Alexander.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
See speaking of Alexander Hamilton is on his
10th year anniversary andthere's a whole Hamilton
challenge on TikTok, that Iokthat I am loving so much.
But now the song that atbroadway too.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
While we're up there just saying I know hey, lindsey,
it's time to pull your drinksout.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
It's time to pull my drinks out the freezer, so I'm
gonna let jesse talk for asecond so here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
I'm gonna go ahead and say, while lindsey knocks
over all the shit here, uh,we're gonna be very unorganized
today because it's her birthdayweekend.
What we do here is Lindsaytells a story that I know
nothing about and we share a fewdrinks, we share commentary
jokes, all the coolness, right.

(04:59):
She destroys me.
I did not know there was thismuch shit out in the world.
And I knew there was shit outin the world.
But, jesus Christ, there is alot of shit out in the world.
There is and there's a lot ofshit that goes on in the world
like during, you know, day today.
But fuck, lindsay.
But to bring all that up and tolive in those moments, and then
I try to analyze it and, ofcourse, I'm like don't do this,

(05:20):
this isn't how you need to raiseyour kids, this isn't how you
need to.
This is all my thoughts of justyeah, these are just our
thoughts belligerent thoughtsactually.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
I mean, or at least intoxication, and also, also
we're, we're, we're thoseparents that have, or we're
trying to give advice fromlessons that we've learned.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, and none of our having fun.
And we're talking and we playmusic at the end.
That's my job.
That's all in my job.
That's all my job.
That's all my job.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
And we're going to pop up in this Celsius because
we need a little energy,grandbabies, cause we're old and
I'm gonna let Lindsay say whatshe felt old about.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
first, because she likes to dump that on me too
Every week.
Ah, Gotti 43.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, on the 14th to be exact, september 14th is my
birthday.
Anybody want to hit me up?
Send some cash.
I love you, I'm just kidding, Idon't care, I don't need it.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
We don't need it.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
But if you want to, you know I will not not accept
it, but the Hamilton song.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
I'm looking at you like.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
The Hamilton song.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
I mean, do you?

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Alexander, come back to sleep.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
I have an early meeting out of town.
It's still dark outside.
I know I just need to writesomething down.
Can we do that challenge?
You got to look at it.
I know you probably.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
it's in my See like Hamilton's, something that I've
watched twice, but I think Ineed to watch it like five times
before I start, really like,because it's all over the place.
There's just so much coolnesseverywhere.
Five times before I start,really like, cause it's all over
the place.
There's just so much cool ittook you?

Speaker 1 (06:45):
it took you probably like what?
Three times to really fall inlove with Chicago, Cause I make
you, I made you watch it?
Now he's just like let's watchChicago.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
And I'm singing songs in the shower and I'm doing
like okay.
So, speaking of Chicago, thischick called me today and is
Roxanne, a Roxy.
No, and I was like wait aminute girl.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
And this is just yesterday.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
But, anyhow.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, she called me looking for one of the coworkers
or whatever at my work.
That didn't even associate.
So of course I went off intothat.
I was like, well, before I getyour phone number to tell him to
call you, we're going to go offof this.
And she started laughing andshe had seen chicago course roxy
heart I'm just a dork in aparts counter.
Why are you calling me to tellpeople to call you?

(07:29):
And I don't understand all thisstuff.
But anyhow, I had to get offinto that.
We sung like a little littleroxy song together, stranger.
But I got her phone number andfound the dude and hey, uh, this
chick wants you to call her forsome reason.
I don't know what's fucking Ihe's like he kind of gave me
that look.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
For context, Jesse has to make and receive a lot of
phone calls at his job.
He's just not randomly talkingto.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
No, it's what I do.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
It's what he does, it's his job.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Well, I'm half of the secretary there.
Like, if they don't get them upfront, guess who it comes to?

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yeah, up front.
Guess who it comes to?
Yeah, he's the parts guy.
Slash secretary, slash mechanic.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, I know how to work a switchboard.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
You don't got so many skills over here.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
I know, I know.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Skills.
So, yes me, what made me feelold was turning 43, but you know
what?
So last night at dinner I wentto my favorite Mexican
restaurant and my son, when theybrought out the sombrero and
the little teeny tiny margaritawith a candle on it was so cute
and saying happy birthday to me,he videoed me and I watched it

(08:32):
and I was like you know what?
I look pretty good for 43.
So you'd pass for 33 I'm uh, youknow, most of the time I'm like
ew, don't take pictures of me,I'm disgusting.
But you know what?
I was not displeased with that.
I was in a good mental space.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
You're doing it and doing it, and doing it well.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
I represent Queens.
I was raised out of Lake City.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
You represent Queens, but you were raised in Lake
City.
Yes, the one borough of LakeCity.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
It's part of Queens.
You just didn't know it.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Way down here in Florida.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's anotherborough 36 chambers of.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Queens and Wu-Tang Clinic.
Nothing to fuck with.
I'm just telling you that rightnow.
What made me feel old?

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yes, first of all, you're not going to.
Let me just say anything today.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
No, I'm not Okay.
It's your birthday so you don'thave to.
Okay, you want to tell thestory?
Yes, I'll tell the story.
Oh God my dyslexic ass.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
We should do one episode like that, where you
have to read the script that Iwrote.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
All the editing and all the research that I did.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
that you have no idea about.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Jesse has to read it I don't know what I'm going to
do.
I, no, I wouldn't let you.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Because you would be like what.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
In the middle of the story you're telling yeah, I'm
going to lock down.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
I have to read these words right now and you're just
like I'm a stab killer, murder,rape, blah, blah, blah, blah,
and I'm all like, uh-uh, I'mlocking down, I'm not saying any
more.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
I'm done.
Speaking of that.
This is a fun murder podcast,but it is PG-13 and up.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
This one isn't.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
This one.
I would suggest not lettinganybody under 18 here.
Yeah, there is a lot oftriggers, a lot of horrific
things.
David Parker Ray was absolutelyhorrible.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
And she showed me a picture yesterday of him.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
You know, I have to.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Oh my.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
God, so the first time no, it was probably the
second time I'd heard about thiscase.
The second time I was listeningto Morbid and they called him a
leather shoe and that is likethe most perfect explanation of
what dude looks like.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
He looks like OK, he looks like an old saddle with a
Buick for a mustache.
That's what he looks like.
He looks like okay, he lookslike an old saddle with a buick
for a mustache.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
That's what he looks like yeah, the dude had some
game we about to talk about itokay fuck gamey and okay okay
elephant.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Am I allowed to say what I felt old?

Speaker 1 (10:56):
I wrote something down there oh yeah, what made
you feel old?
I'm so sorry I did.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
I wrote something down there.
You want me to say somethingabout me feeling old this week
or so?
One big thing, one big thing.
I have been keeping the samechapstick in my car since I got
my first car what?
Yeah, and it finally ran out.
Yeah, this week.
I don't think that that's safe.

(11:20):
I don't know, don't think thatthat's safe.
I don't know, chapstick don'tgo bad, let's look, let's look.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Hey, google, okay, does Chapstick have an
expiration date?
Searching.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yes, Chapstick can expire.
While some products may nothave an expiration date printed,
it's generally recommended touse them within one year.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
After One year, I'm supposed to use Chapstick.
Within one year, I'm supposedto use chapstick within one year
.
So 26 year old chapstick hereIn my car Finally ran out.
That made me feel old.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
But you know, I have 5 year old chapsticks that I
gave the grandbabies to playwith.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
I don't think it goes bad.
I mean, what's going to go bad?
It's like wax and something Idon't know.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
So remember when we went to our first Spookala.
And we got a bunch of um,little little little things when
we first went around, like theywere handing out cards with a
chapstick yeah, we were justtrying to go to all of these so
I had like, between the lastthree that we've been to, I had
a little collection of those, soI put them all in the little
girls bag gave them to thebabies, yeah and along with some

(12:24):
other glossies and lip oils,stuff like that, I made them
their own little makeup bag.
So cute, yeah, and they knowwhere to put it.
And then so cute, they werefighting over it today.
I had to chill that out.
One came out here screaming andcrying.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
I was like no, we're not going to do that.
She came to me, she calls mePapaw and I don't think it's
going to hurt you.
Like you can have 26-year-oldchapstick, Does anybody have
anything that old?

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Let us know your lips ain't falled off.
No, fell off.
They ain't falled off.
They probably have.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
They've regrown them by now.
So that's what made me feel old.
And then the day-to-day grind.
I wrote down the day-to-daygrind because I start noticing
like how you just do everything.
It just goes by so fast andyou're just like damn dude,
there's another year, there'sanother year there's another
year I still remember.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
We can say that every week.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Honestly, we can say that every.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Well, I'm just saying I still remember my last
birthday, like I just got readyfor it a week ago.
Yeah yeah and we literally wentto the same place but we might
do that every year.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Oh, I mean, that's my favorite little spot.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
We go to that restaurant for several of our
family's birthdays.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Worth it One Love Cafe.
And then we also went to ElPatro's last night Went to El
Patro's for dinner.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
One Love Cafe today and my son El Patro's Lake.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
City One Love Gainesville and Silas performed.
Yes.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yes, Gainesville and Silas performed, yes, yes.
He went up and asked Okay, soone love has live entertainment,
like acoustic ish entertainmenton on brunch for Saturdays and
Sundays.
And he went up and he asked ifhe could play a song for me for
my birthday.
And they let him.
And it was so cute, it was soamazing.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
It was so beautiful.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
I have it.
I'm going to make a TikTok Hisbravery and confidence.
He was red for like fiveminutes after that, but he did
it.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
He did the damn thing and the crowd loved it.
So what are we drinking aboutover here, Lindsay?
Because I want to take a sipout of my Long Island over here
we're drinking to part two ofDavid Parker Ray.
That's right.
The Toy Box Killer that's right.
I have to sit through anotherone and I told her I wouldn't,
but I will.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah, he wants to leave on this one.
This one's going to be worsethan part one.
I love you.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Test your love, test, test, test your love.
That's how I sound check.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Test your love, test, test, test your love, yes.
So I'm going to take a sip onthat one and we're going to get
this thing fired off.
Let's get into it.
Last week we gave you somebackground on david parker ray
and a mysterious disappearanceand death tied to him and now
his daughter, jesse ray.

(14:53):
She had alerted the fbi aboutsome possible kidnapping and
human trafficking that david haddone and he was investigated,
but that investigation wasdropped.
David was very much into theS&M and BDSM scene and he has
now built an entire torturechamber called the Toy Box.

(15:14):
Now, once again, this is notthe S&M and BDSM that is
consensual.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
This is non-consensual, criminal act,
criminal shit broken down saddlewith a buick for a lip floss.
Whatever lip lip glow, whatever.
This fucking mustache lookedlike a big old.
Oh, it's caterpillar it didnasty.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
It wasn't as cool as wofford brimley's I was fixing
to say that yes so jesse, jesseray.
She has now moved in with herfather and will become an
accomplice in his future crimes,which is crazy to me.
She was going to turn him inand then she came back around
and got involved in the crimesthemselves.

(15:59):
The number of victims andaccomplices total that he had is
not known, but we are going totalk about the ones that were
reported.
Jesse had become quite thefigure at the local bar scene.
She frequented Blue WaterSaloon and Raymond's Lounge the
most.
She rode a motorcycle.
She liked to shoot pool andplay guitar.

(16:21):
She was a little performer.
She had quite a large group offriends.
There was one friend namedKelly Van Cleave.
Kelly had lived in TRC and was anewlywed to a younger military
man named Patrick Murphy.
Kelly and Patrick lived withPatrick's mom and she really
didn't like Kelly, and Kelly andPatrick fought a lot over that

(16:46):
issue and over the fact thatKelly had personal body issues
that made intercourse verypainful.
So they fought about that a lotas well.
Patrick didn't really like thebar scene in the area and knew
that some of Kelly's friends diddrugs and he didn't like that

(17:07):
either.
I mean, he's, you know,military.
There was another woman namedCassandra Witt, that made it her
job to try and break Patrickand Kelly up, Like she wanted to
be with Patrick.
So one evening Kelly andPatrick had had an argument and
Kelly went out with Jesse Rayand after they have like I think

(17:27):
Kelly maybe had like two drinksshe started to not feel good.
She started to feel a littlebit.
She felt buzzed but it was alittle different than buzzed and
Jesse Ray was like well, I'lltake you home.
But we got to stop by myfather's house first.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Oh my God, Lindsay, I've been quiet, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
She blacked out.
Kelly blacked out.
Two days later.
She was in David's truck and hewas taking her home to Patrick
and, like he pulled, pulled up,told Patrick that he had found
Kelly wandering incoherently onthe beach.
Now Kelly, she had zero memoryof what had happened in the

(18:14):
prior two days.
The last thing that sheremembered period was being at
the Blue Water Saloon.
That was it.
She doesn't remember getting onthe hog with Jesse.
She don't remember getting onthe hog with Jesse.
She don't remember any of that.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Patrick was so pissed and completely convinced that
she had cheated on him and haddone drugs and he divorced her.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Well, fuck yeah.
Kelly moved to Colorado andwould have nightmares every
single day about being chainedup and tortured for years to
come and would not understandwhy.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
And we'll circle back to her.
And that's why I said holy shit, because I Two days.
She has no memory, yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
So we'll circle back to Kelly all right.
For fuck's sake.
Now, this was in 1996, by theway.
So now enter.
Dennis, you didn't say pick upsticks.
Oh God, that's your job,because that's your thing.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Oh well, I'll say it.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
This was 1996.
But it's supposed to be 66.
When?
You say anything with six yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Okay, yeah, because if you're 555, you know the
thing.
Yeah, Go ahead, 666.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
So yeah, because if you're 5'5", 5', you know the
thing, Go ahead 6'6".
So enter Dennis Roy Yancey tothe scene.
Okay, this was a guy who was alocal who went by Roy or Toy Boy
Roy in the party scene.
Of course, that was hisnickname.
Now, Roy had been a piece ofwork since his youth.

(19:45):
When he was younger or when hewas a teenager, he and his
friends made a pretend sataniccult and spread rumors that they
were going to kidnap andsacrifice children on Halloween.
Halloween got canceled becauseof this little fucker.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
You fucking canceled our favorite.
You canceled Halloween.
You fucking canceled ourfavorite fucking Straight to
jail, right to jail, like right,right to jail and that really
lit it up, because I was likethe five, five, five thing and
you were like the boom, the boom, the boom, the boom, satanic
panic, check all that shit out.
That well, that was rightaround the time, okay so.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
So, roy, he would have been in his teens in the
early 80s.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
So there you go, yeah yeah, and I just I mean it got
worse in the 90s, but I believein God, but I'm not scared of
Him.
Right Does that make sense.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Yeah, that's what.
But that would definitely makeyou not a Christian, because
they want you to be scaredhorribly.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Oh well, fuck.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Scared of everything, am I going?

Speaker 2 (20:39):
to make it Fuck.
I don't want to be scared ofthe God I believe in.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
Well, when Roy gets older, there was talk that he
was bisexual and a roommate ofhis actually turned up dead and
this would be ruled as a suicidebecause of homophobic cops.
They just didn't want to beassociated with anything.
Gay, isn't that wild?
Gay Isn't that wild?
And that was in cases that Ihave scheduled in the future.

(21:07):
That will be a lot More fear,yeah Right.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Back around to what I said.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
Hashi Tashi yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Roy Yancey would go on to become friends with Jesse
Ray and David Ray Parker, and in1997, he was dating a woman
named sylvia marie parker, whojust went by marie.
And no, she was not related todavid parker.
Yeah, okay, marie had had anawful childhood and a pretty bad

(21:40):
adulthood as well.
She had had a couple of kidsthat she did not take very good
care of.
The kids stayed with friends orfamily while she partied to
suppress her deep depression.
She found herself homeless atone point and David offered to
let her stay in a tent at hislakeside campsite.
I think that was a perk for himbeing a park ranger.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, cause he was, he had his own little spot.
So people and things, baddecisions and things.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
And y'all got to look up Elephant.
I did post about it in our andI'll put another one for this
part.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah, check out the Butte, it's huge.
Yeah, the Butte.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Huge yeah, and really nice looking.
But we'll go on to talk aboutthe-.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Which we love the Southwest.
Yeah, yeah, I've seen picturesof the Butte before.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
But when I go?
on into it I don't know if Iever want to go there, okay, so
anyway, she's homeless, she'sliving in a tent and on Fourth
of July weekend, jesse, ray andRoy came to join Marie at her
tent and they have a huge party,like other people came as well.
Came to join Marie at her tentand they have a huge party, like
other people came as well.
Later on, david shows up and heflips the fuck out because this

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campsite was in his name andthey had made quite a mess.
You know, party, they don'tgive a fuck.
Probably bottles.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
So like later on that day.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Because there was not only drinking involved.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
There was drugs too.
Dr Dre came through with a gangof Tang and Ray.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
I'm interrupting you, I'm letting you go, sorry.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
So they clean up, the rest of the friends leave Jesse
, roy and Marie.
They clean up and then Jesseand Roy left because Jesse
wanted to go home and make sureher dad wasn't pissed off at her
.
And then Marie was left alonefor a while.
You know, pissed off at her andthen Marie was left alone for a
while.
Marie got very depressed aftercoming down off of the party

(23:29):
drugs.
It was said that she used methand cocaine.
That's quite a come down.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
I mean, I cannot.
I literally cannot relate asmyself, which I've done neither,
but I've seen what it can do toother people.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, we've seen people jacked up.
We're like dude.
No, this ain't really cool.
It's not cool to get to thislevel.
You should be happy with just alittle bit of here and there
stuff.
Not nothing crazy, that's justcrazy yeah, oh wow, I can't bite
off that much.
I can't bite off that much Ican't.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
No.
She called and left her mom afew suicidal messages and then
decided to go to Blue WaterSaloon and see if she could get
more drugs.
And she was met there by JesseRay.
Jesse said come with us,meaning her and Roy, and they
had a drug deal arranged.
Now they drove for a while andthen pulled over.

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Jesse then pulled a gun onMarie and handcuffed her.
Marie was now screaming andJesse said shut up or I will
kill you.
Well, Roy, he would keep Mariecalm in the back of the truck.
As they drove to David's house,he and Jesse took Marie into

(24:48):
the toy box.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
No.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Now Roy.
I don't believe this.
But Roy says that he did notparticipate in the torture.
I'm sorry, I don't believe it,Cause this went on for three
days.
Supposedly Roy was just in,Okay, so David's got his
residence and then he's got thetoy box.
Roy said that him and hisfather just hung out in the

(25:11):
mobile home while David andJesse torture Marie for three
straight fucking days.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Well, maybe he thought it was a rite of passage
for his daughter to beparticipating.
You get this one.
You can do all this when youshould.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Well, there's already been some, but those victims
were not.
We'll talk about that morelater but there's already been
people involved.
These are ones that arereported, the ones that I'm
talking about now.
Roy is saying that him and hisfather stayed in David Parker
Ray's house while David ParkerRay and Jesse Ray tortured Marie

(25:44):
in the toy box for threefucking days without any
involvement.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Okay, sure.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
So then David and Jesse said they they were done
with Marie and looked at Roy andsaid you know what to do?
Then, while Jesse held a gun toRoy's head and Ray filmed it,
roy, strangled Marie to death.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
So, ladies and gentlemen, and people that are
listening to this, human beingsover the age of I don't feel
like any age needs to evenlisten to any of this, but
adulthood type people, humanbeings.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Go back and check out the first one so she can really
tell you on that one, like okay, she's going to say more Holy
shit, this fucking trailer hadso many torture devices, sexual
torture devices.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
I will be posting a picture of the inside of it next
week.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
I'm snapping into this trailer right now, in this
moment, and all the stuff that'sgoing on right now and she's
just.
This is what's really going onin this trailer.
What do they call it?
Box, holy fuck dude.
Oh, and it's a thing.
And this guy was like a mastertechnitional mechanical skillful

(27:01):
that's the inside of thelindsey, I don't want to see it
yet.
I don't want to.
You're holding it in front ofmy face.
Get it on my face, lindsey.
Get it on my face.
I don't want to.
You're holding it in front ofmy face.
Get it on my face, Get it on myface.
I don't want to see it yet.
I don't.
I don't.
I'm just imagining things thatdo things, and phalluses and and
and orifices, and parts andpieces.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Okay, so the book that I have listened to for this
research is called cries in thedesert, um, by the same author.
Holy shit, give me just asecond.
Let me look up the author,because he also wrote the book
about Chris Watts.
So there's a thing that you'redropping on me here.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
I want it One, two Lindsay's coming for you.
That's what I feel like, john.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Glatt.
John Glatt is the author.
He also wrote the book thePerfect Father about Chris Watts
.
Yeah, is the author.
He also wrote the book thePerfect Father about Chris Watts
.
So he's got really good bookson true crime.
And I am skimming the surfaceof how horrible this guy was.
If you feel you want to godeeper into it, listen to that

(28:07):
book, cries in the Desert byJohn Glatt.
But we're going to continue,okay.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yeah, because some people do want to go deep into
that.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Well, I had to listen to it to see what I wanted to
cut out, you know, because thisguy was fucking sick.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
You have so much to go.
I mean, I'm looking at yournotes over there.
I'm like I don't know.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Lindsay, I don't know Lindsay, I don't know man Fuck.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Fuck, all right, okay .
They wrapped Marie in a blanketand put her in the back of
David's truck and drove insilence to Monticello Canyon.
They rolled Marie's body downthe side of a ravine and buried
her there.
After that, jesse and Roy wentto Galveston and hid out in the

(28:51):
homeless community by the beachfor a year before returning to
Elephant Butte.
Marie would become a missingperson whose case went cold for
some time, and this was in 1997.
So a year later, jesse and Roycome back and it wasn't long
before they got right back intothe bar and party scene.

(29:12):
Jesse moved back in with herdad and Roy rented a trailer or
something like that Trailerapartment, I can't remember
exactly which one.
Then Roy and Jesse get into athree-way relationship with a
new-to-town ex-con on the run,named and this is no shit, this
is for real, okay, oh, come on.

(29:33):
Named Cindy Hendy.
What?
Okay, cindy Hendy?

Speaker 2 (29:39):
All right, just letting you know, all right.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Cindy Hendy was a good-time bisexual who had had a
lot of run-ins with the law anda lot of abusive ex-lovers and
had pretty much been abused byeveryone in her life and that
makes me really sad.
That part I get it.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Bad decisions, bad situations, bad upbringing
there's a lot of things thathappen in life and it sucks for
a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
It sounds like this town was full of people who just
had a hard time.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah, I mean every town.
You can pinpoint a lot of that,that's true, I guess just this
group, just like times and erasand ages and spots on Earth
period.
I mean, people have shittydeals but some people come out
of it.
It just seems like to me like,okay, hear about.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
You know a serial killer who killed on his own.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
He had the bad past, but you don't really hear about
the parents this whole herd ofpeople around them, whoever's
around, that have had butthere's a lot of people in the
story.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
There's even more characters that I don't mention
because I would be here forforever.
Right that, if you like.
I said, if you want to knowmore about it, corri's in the
Desert by John Glatt.
So Cindy had children who hadspent most of their time in the
foster system because she wasjust pretty much a mess.
Her nickname was Six Pack Cindybecause it was said that she

(31:04):
would do pretty much anythingfor someone if they brought her
a six pack.
So wait a minute, eileenWuornos did the same thing for a
pack of cigarettes do prettymuch anything for someone if
they brought her a six-pack.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
So wait a minute.
Eileen warnos did the samething for a pack of cigarettes
oh yeah, just complete.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Destroyed human beings that would just be down
for anything, okay, so there's awhole time and a come up, you
know, chapter in the book that'sdedicated to cindy's past and
it's fucking terrible, so a lotof deeper dives.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
We could talk about this for years, yeah, honestly
because, there's so many partsto this it's it's.
There's more parts than the toybox in this son of a bitch yeah
wow she chain smoked and sheenjoyed crank and cocaine.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Like I said, she was in a throuple situation with
Jesse and Roy but she had hersights set on David Parker Ray
For Elephant Butte standards atthat time.
David was a catch.
He had a good state job.
He was mechanically inclined,he had a double wide a boat,

(32:10):
some jet skis Stop Some jet skisand a campsite on the lake.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
His skin was like leather.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
And this lake, like I said earlier, it's huge.
It was like 30 or it is, it'snot, was it's still there.
36,000 acres of water.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Oh, a lot of spot to hide some shit.
Huh, lindsey, you're alreadyfucking, am I?

Speaker 3 (32:34):
right?

Speaker 2 (32:35):
I don't know if I'm right, but I was just wondering
if something was going to comeout later on, where there was
like well, let me finish this,oh well, just okay.
Okay, let me get back to myplant, because this is a lot of
shit, okay go ahead.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Yeah, so david would have what he would call ladies
day on his boat, where, ofcourse, only ladies were allowed
, and there was one chick namedpeggy.
I thought this was weird, that.
Okay, so remember, his sister'sname was peggy, so this peggy
had left over here, got hisgoddamn boat.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
He's running, he is running the game.
Dude, old leather, face overhere you have hey, y'all, y'all
ladies, y'all want to come overto my house?

Speaker 1 (33:20):
we're gonna go on stop, because it's disgusting
okay, hang on on my trailer allright, let me talk about peggy
okay, be the queen of my trailer.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
I'm sorry so.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
So this is Peggy not his sister Peggy, but another
Peggy in his life that had livedwith David Ray Parker and
looked at him like a father.
She called him dad.
Okay, she said that one daythey were out on the boat, and
he starts describing the perfectway to get rid of a body in the

(33:50):
lake without it resurfacing hehad to let some of it out,
didn't he?

Speaker 2 (33:54):
he had to.
Oh yeah, they all do that.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
They all do that he said that you had to cut open
the chest cavity, fill it withrocks and wrap the body in
chicken wire before dumping it.
And, like I said, why he wouldchoose to talk about this With
people that did not meet a fateIs a mystery to me.
But like you said, and that'slike through history, serial

(34:21):
killers have found a way To talkto somebody.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
That's how they let it out About their shit at some
point and they're just waitingfor somebody to be like yeah,
really.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Well, that is a good idea.
What's crazy to me?
Okay, I have never once, notnot one time, had a friend or
somebody that I looked up to,ever describe to me how to get
rid of a body voice that theywould like to kill somebody.
Take somebody, and there'speople in this story and others

(34:51):
that are just like nah, they'rejust playing.
No, people don't play like that.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
I don't feel like I've ever been in that
conversation.
And I feel lucky that I havenot more red flares than red
flags would be going up, if thatmakes sense.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
You make me choke, don't choke it.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Let me get some of that, because I'm geeking right
now and I'm kind of goofballingbut I shouldn't be, because you
got me saddled like his faceover here.
I'm calloused like his mustache.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
All right, let's keep going all right so back to
Cindy Hendy.
So her and this other womanwere competing for David's
affection.
Like I said, if you listen yougotta look up this guy's picture
and then picture womencompeting for their affection.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
So Cindy Hendy had a little extra something to Lindy.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
And Cindy was a decent looking chick and she was
like 20 years younger than himand they're looking up to him.
Yeah.
So Cindy, she ended up beingthe winner, winner, winner,
chicken dinner of David ParkerRay.
So she moved in with David andbecame quite the little
housewife she would clean, shewould watch soap operas and then

(36:01):
, when David would get home, shewould make him amazing dinners.
Then he started to train hernot groom her, but train her in
the art of kidnapping andtorturing women.
When David thought that Cindywas ready, they set their sights

(36:23):
on Angelica Montano.
Angelica had been a sex workerin the area who was friends with
David and Cindy.
Now it's said that Angelica hadparticipated in some sexual
activity with the couple in thepast, and when I say past, david
and Cindy have only beentogether a few months before
this happens.
Okay, but there was no toy box,or if it was, it was for drug

(36:47):
money, but there was no toy boxencounter in that particular
time.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
It was said that she was subjected to cattle prodding
, things like that shit in thetrailer, at home, at home shit
in the, in the home yeah, shedidn't go in the box, she was
just in the home light fun forhim.
Yes, just some little.
There was still things in thetrailer.
Just a nice little play date,right?

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Fuck.
Now, february 1999, angelicahad been talking with Cindy on
the phone about how she couldn'tafford to make her boyfriend a
cake for his birthday, and Cindywas like girl, I got you, I got
some cake mix.
Meet me at the courthouse in Tor C tomorrow.
Now they were.
I don't know what it was, thebook did not elaborate on this

(37:32):
and I couldn't find it.
They were literally going to acourt hearing for something that
they were already involved in.
But I told you that Cindy wasan ex-con.
She came to TRC on the run,literally.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
So anyway, oh, literally so anyway, oh okay.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
So Angelica goes to the courthouse and sees David
and Cindy and they tell her tomeet them around the corner.
Cindy was then like girl, Itotally forgot to bring that
cake mix.
Take a ride with us back to thehouse and I'll give it to you
and then we'll take you home.
So when they get to David'shouse, they go inside.
David says make yourselfcomfortable.

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And then he goes back outside.
He comes back in with a knifeand puts it to Angelica's throat
and told her you are beingabducted against your will.
And this poor woman didn't evenknow what abducted meant what.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Yes, but you know okay, According to what you said
, his recording said he likes tolet them completely know all of
his intentions.
That's part of his thing.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
Yeah, it's so.
I did Okay.
So I had heard that it wasbecause I read some excerpts
from it, from the transcripts.
I have heard that it went onfor 30 minutes.
I've heard that it went on forlonger than that, but I think
the entire audio recording wasactually five minutes that they
had to listen to.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yeah, and you just, oh, Lindsay, you just got these,
okay, you got these fuckingthings, your stories okay, you
got these fucking things.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
Uh, your stories.
So david then punched her inthe mouth and cindy held a gun
to her head and forced a pilldown her throat.
Angelica says that they kepther chained up while david went
to work and cindy would justwatch her soap operas.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
So she's chained up in the actual home right
probably on the country floralfucking living room suit that
everybody was like there was alittle bed in the living room oh
, I will put a picture of thatpicture in the living room suit
that everybody had with the woodno, he wasn't that fancy.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Oh, that was fancy we all had that same fucking.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
You know what I?

Speaker 1 (39:46):
think okay, because we all lived in trailers like
most of us yeah, we grew up intrailers and it came I think
that was like included in thetrailer, that furniture.
Because when I moved out on myown when I turned 18, I rented a
mobile home that was from the70s same shit, same shit.
So I only had to pay 65 a weekfor that mobile home, including

(40:07):
utilities how many people hashad that fucking living room
suit oh god, like I said, Ithink it was just a standard
with mobile homes when you wouldpurchase a mobile home I think
it just came with it my grannyhad it with her brand new
trailer.
When she bought that trailer,it came with that furniture.
It came with the wallpaper thatmatched right like the whole
fucking house the.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
The whole motif was just set up, and then shag brown
goldish carpet Like y'all thelate 70s and early 80s.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
It looked like the furniture in the walls looked
like somebody had just barfed.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
And they came up with that color.
We had the TV on the TV.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Yeah, no, I didn't have that.
We had the floor model TV andwhen it broke down years, I
think I was probably 10, 10 or11 before we got a different tv
and that tv had been in my dad'sfamily for like 30 years the
floor model with the carpet onthe side no, I just I just had
to bring that up.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
I was just picturing the living room area you had to
go.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
There was no remote.
You had to go turn the dial.
Yeah, you had to turn the knobthe yeah, it wasn't even a dial,
it was a knob, if you're luckyyou had the corded clicker.
No, there was no corded clicker.
We didn't have that.
No, we had to get our ass up.
It was a piece of furniture.
Yeah, the TV was a piece offurniture, with the top of it

(41:26):
was a table.
You could put decorations ontop.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Ours wasn't as bougie to have the carpet still.
It kind of fell off and we drewon the wood.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
That was there, you kids you know, yeah, my yeah,
shit was wild back then.
Okay, all right, so when Davidwould get home.
This is not funny, but it iskind of a little bit.
Okay.
So, the storm of the century.
Remember when that was thebiggest thing on tv at that time

(41:56):
?
And I mean, okay, so we're in99 movie, the storm of the
century but it was as a miniseries on tv they played
different episodes or theyplayed different parts of the
movie every night.
It was like a three-part miniseries.
Okay, so imagine you're at home.
You're watching this shit nightby night.
Angelica montano is locked upin david's house.
She has to watch this shit withthese fuckers every night.

(42:20):
Okay, and they watched it.
They watched the storm of thecentury.
While angelica is just sittingthere freaking out thinking
about her kid yes, she had a kid, oh God Thinking about her
boyfriend and scared of what wasgoing to happen to her, chained
up, know that her fucking lifeis going to be over, while these
fuckers are just watching TV.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Hanging out.
It's cool.
I prodded you a couple weeksago.
Don't you know me by now?

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Yeah, you're right On the third day of her abduction,
they took her into the toy boxwhere they raped and tortured
her for some time.
And then David looks at hiswatch and was like, okay, that's
enough time for storm of thecentury.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
It was the last leg of the show they were just like
we're gonna leave you in here,or did they bring her back?
They let her watch some morehuh, you gotta finish this
series though.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
right, you got to finish this series, but first,
David forced her to give hislimp ass dick a blowjob.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Oh, he's like here you go, it's not going to work,
but make this happen.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Because, yeah, he was very impotent, but now he had
been prescribed Viagra at thispoint, but I guess he didn't
take any of that that night.
Now let me go into his littleViagra journey.
Okay, viagra.
So when Viagra first came on themarket and he heard about it

(43:42):
because he had been impotent hiswhole life and I think that
that's a little bit to do withhis His autoerotic, horrific
fixation on doing sadistictorture toward women, like
angelica said, that he put likea rubber band or something on
his fucking oh, he heard like avacuum cleaner, I don't know,
but she said that he put arubber band on his penis to hold
it up a little, yeah, butanyways, he had started taking

(44:06):
viagra at this point and hiscolleagues at the park, at the
state park, said that it changedhis life, that he started
wearing cowboy hats, spiffierclothes and turquoise jewelry.
Oh look at him now and everynight about having women collars

(44:30):
that he would make love to forhours.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
But I guess he didn't take his Viagra this night
because Angelica definitely saidhe had a limp dick.
Okay, fuck's sake.
But it is said that he actuallycalled Viagra like the company
and said will this help me getan erection without hurting
somebody?
He okay, I don't know if that'sa hundred percent true.

(44:59):
Some kind of a conscience there, right, he's like it is said
that he literally called thefucking hello Viagra.
How are you doing today?
Yeah, well, this medicationhelped me achieve an erection
without hurting somebody.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
In the name of.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Jesus, like what the actual fuck?
I hope, I really hope, thatthat's not true.
I feel I mean because, no, Iwouldn't doubt it a bit.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
No receptionist.
What did he have as far as hisfather bringing magazines to him
?
What did he have to associatesexual relations with without
having?

Speaker 1 (45:28):
that that's the only way that he could get.
That is so fucking terrible.
That is scary.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
He couldn't achieve his erotic goal without having
some horrific shit happen.
That's what his daddy broughtinto that.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Yeah, because he's in his 50s by now.
I don't know if he was alwaysdealing with impotency, but he
definitely was before Viagracame onto the scene.
Right, well, I mean all thismakes sense from dealing with
impotency, but he definitely wasbefore viagra came onto the
scene right?

Speaker 2 (45:50):
well, I mean, all this makes sense from his
childhood.
This really does make sense tome.
I mean, none of it makes senseyeah, I know what you mean.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
We're not justifying it, none of it.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Making that clear none of it, but from his
childhood he did not have a goodexplanation he didn't know any
other, did not have a goodexplanation, he didn't know any
other way.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
That's why we talked about in the first episode.
So horrific Make sure your kidsknow that porn and things of
that nature are not real Right.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
We talked about all that, and every bit of all this
is not not supported by us inany means.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
It is not consensual.
We're just trying to figure outwhy a human being would think
like this.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Analyzing the human being right now, I feel like he
didn't have a contrast ofhealthy no, there was nothing.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Healthy Period.
So Angelica pretended that sheliked giving David the blowjob
and acted like she enjoyed thewhole experience.
So they would let her go.
And it worked.
Oh, so she was team she, yeah.
She even told them let's, let'sdo this again, and this time I

(46:57):
won't be the victim.
She was trying really hard toget out.
Leather and don't, don't, don'tassociate him with one for
Brimley.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
No.
Leather Brimley, leather faceis cool.
Leather Brimley Hefner, leatherface is cool.
Leather Brimley Hefner.
On high over here, you fuckingpiece of shit.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
So David even let her call and arrange for a bus to
Albuquerque Now the sickos woulddrive her to the bus stop.
They drove off and thenAngelica frantically started to
flag people down because shewanted to turn them in.
And it just so happens that anoff-duty cop stopped and asked

(47:34):
if he could help.
She said she needed a ride toAlbuquerque and then told him
the whole story.
After she was done telling himeverything, the man revealed
that he was a cop and offered totake her back to TRC to file a

(47:54):
report.
She said she was then.
Then she got terrified.
She was like I can't, yeah, no,listen to this.
She said I can't do thatbecause the tier c police are
involved and nobody wouldbelieve her.
Now they do not.
There's no elaboration on that,but those words came out of her
mouth and this guy's like whatthe fuck?
I am trc police and what?

Speaker 2 (48:13):
you know, maybe the newer guy you know now this
story.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Everything that she had told him was so horrifically
bizarre to the cop.
Like I said, I gave you themild version.
If you want to know everything,listen to the book.
They fucking, really tortured,fucking hurt this woman.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
This is bad enough for me.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
I don't want this I gave you the the very mild
version.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Thank, you for that.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
You're welcome if I told you, jesse, I wouldn't be
able to get you out of bed forthree days if I told you what
this woman went through.
Yeah, a ball of mustache so,like I said, he said he thought
that it was so horrificallybizarre that he didn't believe
her and he didn't file a reporteither.
Oh then Angelica, when she gotto Albuquerque, she told her

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father about it.
They were actually planning togo back and kill David Parker
Ray, but her father I mean, thisis insane.
Her father was gunned down by a15-year-old kid outside of a
Taco Bell when a drug deal wentbad.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Right, fucking there.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
Like they were gonna go back and take this fucker out
.
Probably Cindy too.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
And the leather lives on.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Yeah, Okay.
So on March 20th 1999, Cindyand David got into their camper
truck and went to Albuquerque toseek out another victim.
He met up with a pimp in thered light district and said he
wanted a girl for a blowjob.
The pimp sent out Cynthia Vigiland she got into the RV.

(49:52):
And when the deal was discussed, David then pulled out his fake
badge and told Cynthia that or,Cynthia, this is okay.
So it's going to be confusingfor a little bit.
There's Cindy, Cindy Hendy, andthen there's Cynthia.
Cynthia is this victim?
Okay, Right, right.
He told Cynthia that she wasunder arrest for the
solicitation of sex andhandcuffed her.

(50:12):
Then Cindy came out holding agun and told Cynthia that she
had everything on tape.
Cynthia fought back, but Cindyand David got her down and
shackled her and duct taped hermouth and eyes.
As they drove back to 513 BassRoad they made Cynthia strip

(50:33):
naked, put a collar on her andthen a leather mask to cover her
head.
Then they played David's taperecording.
Now I want y'all to know thatwe're in 1999 here, okay, in
1999, here, okay.
He had recorded that tape in1993.
And he says that on the tape.

(50:53):
And on the tape it says me andmy lady friend.
Him and Cindy Hendy hadn't beentogether that long, so I don't
know who the lady friend is thathe's speaking of you think
that's who.
it is Okay that's, but I thinkthere were other accomplices
along the way.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
yeah, yeah, because either have never been seen
again in hiding for a while, sohe brought in some more of
mana's harem of horrificshittery.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
There's a lot left un-fucking-covered here so far
so after the tape, the rape andthe torture, anally and
vaginally, she was electricallyshocked and tortured.
David, okay, this is going tobe bad.
Okay, oh no, this is going tobe really gross.

(51:43):
Okay, david smothered somegravy on her private parts Gravy
and had his dogs come in Fuckand lick it off, fighting, and
then they just went to watch TV.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
I'm fighting Right now the air.
You hear me?
I can't.
Well, they fucking just, theyjust Lindsay.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
I know.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Lindsay.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Like I said, this is I'm just.
I'm just Barely.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Putting in the horrificness so they're so, oh,
they're so.
Putting in the horrificness,yeah, so there's so oh.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
There's so fucking much.
There's a whole chapter in thebook on each one of these
victims, a whole chapter.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
That we know about that we know about the ones we
know about the shit that we knowabout.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
It's only the ones that we know about?

Speaker 2 (52:28):
We know about Lindsay .
All right, I'm sipping, I'msipping, you're tripping, I'm
sipping.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
So, like I said, after all of that, him and Cindy
went and just they watched TV,Leaving Angela or leaving Cindy,
Cynthia, chained to the bed.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
So fucking part of their just daily fucking shit.
It was not a big fucking dealfor them.
Yeah, let's fuck off.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Here's just some shit for my dog and I'm going to go
watch fucking Roseanne and fuckoff off.
Oh my god, that is probablywhat he was watching.
Oh, and that was the good yearstoo.
99, oh, stop.
Okay, quick, probably Friends.
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
They weren't watching Friends, come on.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
That was a big show in 99.
They might have been.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
What might have been okay?
What kind of country songs arethey listening to?
The same as when we stop.
It took a shower.
Let me finish.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Oh, okay, go ahead the next day, they used a series
of ropes and pulleys andsuspended her from the ceiling.
They took the tape off of hereyes and when she opened them,
she was looking at herselfthrough a monitor.
Oh fuck.
Then David beat her with whipsand a cat of nine tails.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Lindsay.
Is this where the Saul moviescome from?
Oh my God.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Oh my.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
God, is this weird?
This is some.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Saul movie type shit House of a Thousand Corpses.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
That too, that too.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
Rob Zombie hit us up.
Oh my god, we love you so much.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
We were in the presence of the dude that does
the Saul movies, jigsaw and allthe Fuck.
We need to look, we're going tolook, lindsay go.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
And the torture fuck.
We need to look, we're going tolook, lindsay go.
And the torture continued OnMonday.
So this is day three.
Okay, on Monday David left forwork, but not before saying when
I get back I'll introduce youto the toy box.
Well, cindy, she was in chargeof watching Cynthia, but had
left the keys to the restraintson the table near Cynthia and

(54:41):
then just started watching TVLike she was your classic
housewife in a robe eatingbonbons, till the hubby got home
and she got a shower and cookeddinner Smoking her misty 120s.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Oh, she was a chain smoker 120.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Oh, she was a chain smoker.
There was one person that's onequote from a person that said
she literally just lit one afterthe other.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
Period.
There was probably some fuckingDorals or some shit.
I don't know what she wassmoking.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
I don't know.
Okay, so you know what DavidParker Ray was probably smoking
Dorals Dorals Cynthia wasprobably smoking a knockoff
version of Misty 120s.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
She looks like a Misty 120 girl.
He was smoking Winstons, thatmotherfucker's Winston.
All day, winston.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
Cubs Doral and Winston are in the same category
.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Yeah, I think Doral's more like the.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Dollar General version.
You know what Cynthia wasprobably smoking.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
Cools.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
If you look at a picture of her later on, she was
a cool cat.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Fuck God, salem's, salem's.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Yes, back in my smoking days, my childhood
friend, her dad, always hadstacks on stacks of cool
cigarettes in the freezer,because that's what you did when
you bought a carton you put itin the freezer, they preserve.
And I would always hit him.
Can I, can I get a pack of themCool?

(56:04):
Can I get a pack of them Cool?
Cause I smoked menthols when Ibought them myself.
It was not cool, but it was, itwas whatever.
It was a free pack ofcigarettes and I think back.
I'm like that was so gross.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
I was like borderline flirting, yeah, with this old
man.
How's that make you feel insidethere, lindsey?
What kind of shit did everybodywas a different time.
What kind of shit did everybodydo right there, just as growing
up?
Yeah, everybody has those.
You're gritting your teeth,you're doing that, that, look,
look at that.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
Look right there, I'm just thinking back like ew.
Yeah, cynthia asked why theywere doing this to her and Cindy
called her some racial slursbecause she was Hispanic and
told her that they would drugher to where she would forget
the whole thing and let her outon the highway when they were
done with her.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
So they've done that before.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Cindy said David had been doing this for a long time
and that he was a serial killer,and told her what they did to
Angelica.
Cindy was not the bitch to getinvolved in, your shit Like she
ran her mouth.
Okay, cindy said their nextmission this is terrible Trigger

(57:18):
warning.
Their next mission was tokidnap a 10-year-old girl and
train her as their slave, and Ican assure you guys that that
will not happen.
But that is what they wereplanning in their fucking sick
heads.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Thoughts.
But hey, my plant needs me, allright.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Now let me go.
Yeah, it's cuddle with theplant and let me roll.
Okay, around 3 pm Cynthia wasable to get those keys and she
freed herself and dialed 911.
911.
The operator answered, but whenCindy walked in and caught her
on the phone, she smashed a lampover Cynthia's head and hung up

(58:03):
the phone.
Well, of course the 911dispatcher called back and Cindy
said oh, it was just a mistake,everything's fine.
But the operator she listenedto her gut.
She became something and shesent someone out anyway.
Yes, now, in the meantime,there was an ice pick laying
around which is veryquestionable to me, like why is
there just an ice pick layingaround?

(58:24):
And Cynthia struck Cindy in thehead with it and, like, bolted
out of the house naked, bloodyand with a dog collar on, she is
frantically trying to getpeople to help her.
She's waving people down, butthey were dodging her, like I
mean, I, I don't know if I wouldbe the same if I saw, I don't

(58:48):
know, I don't know how it reactshow many movies you can make
off of this when cindy came uharound she came to from being
struck in the head by an icepick.
She called David and he said hewould be on his way and they
would get.
They would go find her.
They would go find Cynthia.
Luckily, cynthia found a housewhere she felt like the people

(59:08):
inside would help her, and theydid.
They gave her a pink robe toput on and called 911.
But the people who had seenCynthia running naked but didn't
help her were at least calling911 as well.
I mean like they had like aninflux of 911 calls about this

(59:29):
naked, bloody woman.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
It went down, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
So roadblocks were set up and by the time David
picked up Cindy, they wereliterally pulled over two blocks
from their house and DavidParker Ray's reign of terror was
finally over.
But there's a little more tothe story Finally fucking over

(59:52):
though.
Yes, so David and Cindy bothsaid that Cynthia was a heroin
addict and she had been awilling participant in BDSM
activity and they were justtrying to get her off the heroin
.
You know they were just beinggood Good Samaritans that they
said that they were going to.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
You know, get her off cold turkey at the back story
that this woman already has,it's half believable already.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
I isn't that fucking sick but they were still booked
on kidnapping, sex crimes andassault.
Good, while police wereinvestigating the house, they
weren't even in the toy box yet.
Okay, they were justinvestigating the house.
They knew that this was too bigfor them.
This was just in the house,they ain't even got over there

(01:00:41):
well, they called the statepolice, who did in fact get the
fbi involved.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Yes, the fibby fibby.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Yeah, I knew you had a thing about it and it wasn't
too long before cindy h flipped,telling them everything for
immunity.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Oh, yes, good.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
She even told them that David had said he quote,
this is a quote, not my words hehad been raping bitches since
he was old enough to jerk offand that he had murdered at
least 14 people, at least 14.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
She says, she said that's what.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
David told her.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
I believe it's more than that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
I already want my plant again.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
Well then, roy, remember old Dennis Roy, old toy
boy Roy.
He was called in and headmitted to his involvement with
the death of Marie Parker.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Watch me as I do my double flip tuck.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
Videotapes from the toy box were discovered and
reviewed and one victim's tattoostood out, but they couldn't
identify her face out.
But they couldn't identify herface.
So they put a picture of thetattoo on the media and it was
kelly van cleave, the one whocouldn't remember oh wow, they
had there.

(01:02:05):
It is tied back together and shewas like holy shit, that's me.
And she came forward with herstory about how she had been
drugged.
Well, she didn't know that shehad been drugged.
She said I went to the fuckingBlue Water Saloon Next thing I
know David Parker Ray's drivingme home and my husband divorced
me.

(01:02:25):
But there was literally a videoof the torture that she went
through for two days that shehad nightmares about every night
until this was discovered.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
You don't want me to sleep I'm not even a female and
a lot of this really does time.
That's why I, like a lot offemales, really love this.
A lot of women and a lot ofpeople get into this because I
don't even think I'll sleepafter this one.
That's a lot to think about.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
And you go out as a, as a 20 year old, whatever and
that this is just one woman ofso many, of this one this one
thing this one man, this one outof human, done.
And there's millions and hetargeted sex workers and women
of color and hitchhikers that heliterally felt nobody would

(01:03:23):
ever give a fuck about.
Isn't that terrible?

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Yes, and right now, at this point, I understand,
yeah, I understand theinfatuation with this, the need
for knowledge and sharing thistype of content.
I mean, I've been on team drinkabout something forever.
I mean we're doing thistogether.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
Yeah, we're almost a year in.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
Yeah, but this kind of shit right here, the sharing
the content and other podcastershave done this, you know, and
people do this.
I mean we all team up togetherEven if we don't know each other
.
We don't network or whateverthe knowledge that we share to
put out to somebody that mightget the inclination to be like

(01:04:11):
wait a minute, something's notright.
I need to protect myself.
Something's not right.
I need to protect myself.
I need to be out of thissituation because I've heard
something on somewhere fromsomebody that all of these
situations can line up and bethe fucking most horrific thing,
just like you're talking aboutright here.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Like I mean it's hard .
The things that happened inthat toy box are very hard for
me to talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
You tried showing me a picture of that motherfucker
and I don't want to look at it,but that's just a picture of
what was in it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
That's not what happened to these women.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
I mean, it could have just been a tree branch and I
would have still been fucked upover it, you know, because of
his erotic infatuation withsomething that is just demonic
and evil.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
And just treating women like they don't fucking
matter.
Unhuman and nobody gives a fuckabout them and he's like I got
you, now I'm going to dowhatever the fuck I want with
you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
Yeah, no matter what Unhumane, just complete, just
involving animals and just goingback and watching TV while the
fucking fuck off.
This is natural to me.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
No, it's not One of the victims that I didn't
mention.
That was very early on.
I'm just going to do a quicklittle thing.
He tried several of his I toldyou, very enormous dildos, right
, and they would not work on herand he got pissed the fuck off

(01:05:36):
because these things would notinsert into her body and they're
beating that flesh and human.
God, I mean it literally makeseverything in my body hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
I have chills.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Everything in my body hurts Chills.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
Yeah, and I don't know that feeling because I'm
not a female.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
but and what's sad is , most of these women had
already been through abusivesituations.
I mean even Cindy Hendy, andshe became a part of it.
Yeah, you know, it's just, it'soh, I don't oh.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
I don't understand.
He knew where to go to findbroken people, and broken people
can latch on to broken peopleand broken people can latch on
to broken people.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
Well, while investigators cataloged all the
items in the toy box, there wasa set of I don't even know what
you would call it reminders orsomething that would say don't
let her go.
If she was worth taking, she isworth keeping.
Never trust a chained captive.
They will beg, plead, offer sexand mention children.

(01:06:43):
He had that posted in there.
There was a map of ElephantButte Lake with X's marking
certain locations.
They also found over 400 piecesof jewelry 400 that David had
kept as trophies.
They all do right, they all do,all of them.

(01:07:04):
So, like I said, this was allover the news and that one cop
that had picked up Angelica waslike holy shit, she was telling
the truth.
There was another couple whohad been friends with Cindy
Hendy and one night Cindy gotstupid drunk at their house and
had even told them that Davidwas a serial killer and had a

(01:07:25):
torture chamber like braggingabout it to the couple and the
couple didn't believe her.
Motherfuckers, my babies, myloves, if somebody ever tells
you about something like this,don't be like oh, they're just
drunk, they're just playing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
No, have that shit investigated motherfucker feels
like he's untouchable, like he'sfeeling it right in front of
you and you just be likelaughing and because you're
talking about it right, yeah,yeah, and they're just saying
this shit like it's just part oflife.
It's no fucking big deal, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
There is no situation that I would ever somebody.
We have lots of friends comeover from time to time.
We have what we call our littleback porch chats, talks,
whatever.
Not one time.
In how long have we beentogether 13 years has not one
person that I know ever sat onmy back porch drunk or gardening

(01:08:17):
, ever spilt anything that wouldcome close to this type of shit
?
No, we're writing their fuckingname down and they're going
away.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
I think the party's over.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
One podcast.
I can't remember what Ilistened to.
They were like if somebody evertalks about this around you,
write their name down.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
And I was like that's we do.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
Yeah, we do.
I mean, like the closest thingwe've ever had is our last
hurricane Helene.
We sat on the back porch aftera week.
We cooked on our non-electricaldevices that our gas-burning
devices, our charcoal devices.
We had dinner, we had somedrinks and we sat around and did
trauma-dump candy salad.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Yeah, I mean hurricane parties.
Actually, I don't buy agenerator on purpose.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
And guess what?
Nobody dumped anything aboutshit like this.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
No, and we were calling people to come hang out.
Hey, let's just grill out andjust hang out.
Well, all kinds of crazy peopleover here just having a good
time.
Hurricane party.
The aftermath no power for likethree days.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
No, and I mean we were prepared for it.
We prepare, we're Floridians.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
We know what to do.
We're going to empty ourfreezer.
We're going to.
We didn't need a freezer.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
We cook it all.
We have a gas-powered cooker,we have a charcoal grill.
Yeah, we do our things.
We kind of live it up duringhurricanes without power.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Yeah, hot, sweaty, stinky.
We don't want to, we don't wantto.
But we can take showers still,no matter what.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
Yes, we have city water, so we can still take cold
showers.
I don't buy a generator onpurpose just because of that
purpose just because of that,that experience and that
hardship, a little bit ofhardship is good in life.
It is, it, is it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
It teaches you how to be resourceful yeah, and it
teaches our kids because,because, they've been through
four now and where we've had tookay with it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
They don't have to have no devices no power,
whatever we're gonna hang out,and that's a good, take a break
out to the vehicles, get alittle ac.
Yes, take a cold shower.
Good yep, it's good shitteaching.
Take a break out to thevehicles, get a little AC.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
Yes, take a cold shower.
We're good.
Yep, it's good shit Teaching.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
All right.
So back to this bullshit.
We're going to wrap this up.
Okay, FBI tracked down Angelicaand interviewed her and she
told her story.
Now she went on to have a goodlife, she married, she had
children.
I'm so happy about that.
So, David's property, the lakeand the spot where Rory said

(01:10:44):
Marie Parker was buried, theywere searched but no bodies were
ever found.
None.
The lake.
So because of the temperatureconstant temperature changes
throughout the year, and okay,so our listeners may not know,
but there's a lake or a pond ora is it a lake, Ocean pond Near

(01:11:07):
us and it has very murky rotter.
It's a lake.
Even for experienced divers washard to search.
The water in certain parts ofthis lake is about 200 feet deep
.
Like I said, it's a 36,000 acrecoverage of water.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
That's a lot of shit.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
It's an irrigate Hold on, I actually screenshotted
some facts about this lake.
Hold on, let me pull this up.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
It's got a dam and shit too.
Really, hold on, give me twoseconds.
Two seconds.
Shit too really quick.
Hold on, give me two seconds,two seconds.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
Lindsey, you fucking killed me.
I just wanted to say that youfucking killed me.
Okay, so this reservoir canhold 2 million 65 and 10 acre
feet of water.
Um, it provides irrigation to178,000 acres of land.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
Yeah, so it's a dammed lake.
Yes, there's a dam, it's areservoir, it's dammed.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
It's got all of that.
That's what I was thinking andthis man had already talked
about how to that woman, Peggy,who called him dad how he knew
how to keep a body fromresurfacing, um, how he knew how
to keep a body from resurfacingbecause remember back in
episode one his business partnernow that was searched and

(01:12:25):
investigated.
But unfortunately they stillcouldn't tie that to david ray
parker.
But I'm pretty like everybodyknows that.
Everybody knows, everybodyknows it was in the same lake
there was another body found.
I'm sorry it was a burlap sack.
That was surfaced anddiscovered by a fisherman who

(01:12:45):
said there was and this isdisgusting a cheese-like
substance.
Jesse's taking a sip and he'sabout to puke In this burlap
sack.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
Let me swallow it, let me get it down.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
It's not funny, but he's funny, his reaction is
funny.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
Like I, literally he was not ready, but they said
that it was definitely humanflesh, but they could not.
They could not identify it asanybody.
Trial and error.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
This motherfucker's had so many body counts.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
He figured it out.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
He just figured it out.
Let me put some rocks in thechest cavity and sew it back up
with some chicken powder.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
There was one investigator.
It was a female.
She took all this shit to heartand so distressed by the
contents of the toy box that sheshot herself, really Shot
herself.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
Lindsay, another one just ricocheted Just being a
part of this investigation.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
Yeah, could not take it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
Could not take it Just being a part of it
Reviewing the tapes, cataloging.
Innocent bystander Just fuckingchecking the content.
Yeah, lindsay.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
Well, david Parker Ray was sentenced to 224 years
for the kidnapping and sexcrimes and was tried separately,
each for the three knownvictims.
He was never charged withmurder as there were no bodies
discovered.
Jesse Ray was charged withkidnapping and criminal sexual
penetration and was sentenced to30 months months fucking go

(01:14:28):
crazy here Plus five yearsprobation.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
Lansing.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
Dennis Roy Yancey was sentenced to 30 years, but he
was paroled after 11.
And he violated that parole andserved some more time, but he
was released in 2021.
He walks among us.
Cindy Hindi was sentenced to 36years and was released in 2019.

(01:14:54):
But here's, I got some goodnews.
I'm ending on a good note.
On May 28th 2002, david ParkerRay died of a heart attack in
prison right before he was to befurther questioned by state
police.
Now it's a bittersweet death.
Yes, fuck that guy.
Goodbye, rotten hell.

(01:15:15):
But at the same time, there'sno way of ever knowing how many
victims he actually had.
Jesse is so mad at me.
Right now he's taking off theheadphones.
He's standing here looking atme in horror.
I'm so sorry.
This is the worst one we willdo for a while.

(01:15:37):
Can I give you?
I'll give you that he's dying,are you okay?
I'm so sorry.
The plant did not work itsmagic on him today.
The emotional support plant didnot work its magic on Jesse
today.
A moment of silence.

(01:15:59):
He's not taking this one.
Well, you're going to make meget teary.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
I'm sorry y'all, I just don't want to.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
David Parker Ray broke you huh I hear.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
this has just been a lot, you know it opens your eyes
though doesn't it.
I mean I did completely justmelt down.
It's just the injustice.
I know and the people that areundiscovered in the bottom of a

(01:16:45):
reservoir.
Justice, I know.
And the people that areundiscovered in the bottom of a
reservoir.
Eventually things hopefullywill but Lindsay.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
I know it's terrible because it's hard to be funny,
funny and chuckle, chuckle.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
We started this for me to just be a little buzzed
and goofy and whatever but Imean, it gets to you, it gets to
me after a while too it's abreak.
That's why I have my palatecleansers how do?

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
two palate cleansers I do suggest, ladies and
gentlemen, are brendan mario'spretty funny podcast and amy
poehler just talked about her.
Yes, amy poehler's.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
Good, hey, I love her so much so I can't just
backtrack emotionally real quick, I have to.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
Well, not everybody can I mean human.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
I don't know Whatever .
I just I can't.
I can't.
I had to step away.
I can't, Lindsay.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
Hold your hand through this.
We're done.
We hold your hand through this.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
We're done we're done with this.
I know he didn't deserve asecond longer in life to me no,
well, he didn't get, he.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
I mean, he got a couple more years after this,
but he is gone.
He is rotting when whatever hedeserves.
We'll just put it that way,because you know we're not going
to sit here and act like weknow where anything is.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
But If ever you bring me to that point again, I swear
to God, dude, you know what Ihave to try to find something to
do with you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:17):
He's like Hitler right now in hell and he's
getting a pineapple shoved uphis ass.
Yeah every hour on the hour,because Harvey Keitel is the
devil and he's calling infucking Hitler.
What?

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
did he say before he shoved that in, you're kidding
me, or something?
He said something you got to bejoking me or something I don't
remember.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
We gotta watch Little Nicky again, but it's hard dude
.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
Like that is so like a whole just wave of I didn't
have anything else to do butstep away.
Like that is so like a wholejust wave of I didn't have
anything else to do but stepaway.
And I'm literally wiping myeyes right now.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
I know, and you know, I've been fighting back tears
all day.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
I cry, I'm like I almost sound like I'm just
holding in a laugh.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
My birthday is actually now.
For the last four years been avery emotional time for me
because Thank you for all that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
I love you.
I love you.

Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
A very close, a very close friend of mine passed away
literally the day after mybirthday and her last words to
me were happy birthday, I loveyou.
And she was leaving work and Inever saw her again.
So I'm already emotional, jesse.
Now I'm seeing you.
I love you, and she was leavingwork and I never saw her again.
So I'm already emotional, jesse.

(01:19:29):
Now I'm seeing you, I'm trying.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
You just see me break down in the middle of a podcast
.
I'm sorry guys.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
So we know now David Parker Ray was your breaking
point and I'm glad you let itout.

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
Because, listen, there are.

Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
I will let you know what I mean.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
This is just like I said.
We're only a year in, we'veonly skimmed the surface of the
horror that has happened in thisworld and we're going to keep
talking about it.
Because all these stories needto be shared over and over and
over again?
Yeah, because maybe the morethat they are shared, the less

(01:20:11):
it will happen.
And that's what I'm hoping,because, if you've noticed,
there are less and less serialkillers.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
Yeah, the knowledge and the sharing Because of the
knowledge and the DNA I've gotto recenter myself.
Are you done here?

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
Yes, fuck.
Okay, recenter myself Are youdone here?

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
Yes, fuck, okay, lindsay, I mean I do the
cheering thing.
She's putting a lot of work,I'm not happy.
I'm really informed andemotionally distraught over her

(01:20:52):
stuff really I am, but thank youfor sharing this and giving us
a way, you know, and me being apart of it given there's,
there's going to be somebodythat hears this, that gets out
of such a situation.
There is, I guarantee it.
Even if it's not that horrific,we don't get exposed to that as

(01:21:12):
often.
It's just in different pockets,different times, crazy shit.
And if one person avoidssomething, that is that horrific
or even close to anything toany of our stories here, thank
you.
Thank you, lindsay.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
And you know, and that's just that's what that's
to me, it's when fuckers likethis and I mean like you know,
like Angelica was friends withthese people and she felt so low
of herself that she had alreadyallowed them to abuse her prior
to because of her addiction andthings like that and because

(01:21:51):
addiction had taken over herbody, and then they were, I mean
like there was.
She even says that there was apoint where this fucker gave her
a hug before he took her to thebus station, like bring it in,
what.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
Because he just knows how fucking horrific it's just.

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
And he justified all of it.
Like I said, they literallymade it out to where they were
doing like an at-home detoxprogram for Cynthia V Hill.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
So this was full-on confession all around.
No real trial, no nothing.
They're just like yeah, wefucking do this shit.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
No, no, no, there was trials.
There was a lot.
There was a lot of trials.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
So he played the game too, on top of fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
But Cynthia and Roy turned on him.
Unfortunately well, I'm notgoing to say unfortunately,
fortunately it really didn'twork in either one of their
favors, because they did a lotof time as they should, as they
should, and neither one of themshould be out, in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
No, no, because.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
Cindy Hendy and Roy Yancey walk among us.
No, no Accessory andparticipant hendy and roy yancey
walk among us like no, noaccessory, and david parker is
dead.
Ding dong, the fucker is deadyeah, can I play music now?

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
absolutely so.
In the travels of all, all ofmy music experiences, you meet
these icons, these gems I socall it that I latch onto.
Yeah, we become, obviously webecome good-ass friends, even if
it's not a daily friendship,it's an online friendship, which

(01:23:39):
is just as good or amusic-friend relationship
because we share music and we dothings and we put on shows and
we collaborate and we do thingsand we put on shows and we
collaborate and we, we do, we doamazing things.
When we go to a show, lindsey,and we meet these amazing people
, we have to latch on to thembecause, you know, they're
always like-minded and they'reamazing people.
Yeah, I love it.

(01:24:00):
I love it and I miss it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
We've been out of the scene for a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:24:04):
I'm ready, I'm ready for a good jump.

Speaker 1 (01:24:06):
I'm so ready.
I'm getting close, baby.
I know Shadow of the Earth isabout to rebrand.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
I'm so excited, we're getting close Come see me at
the merch table A little bitmore training to do, but Eric.
Eric Mann.
We met him, we hung out withhim a couple of times, actually
Played with him a couple oftimes.
He has a project and you guyshave to check this out.
We played with him at theBrewing Company.

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
Oh, that was so fun.

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
LGBTQ like whole brewing thing.

Speaker 1 (01:24:37):
Oh, that was such a great night.
We did a whole thing.

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
We played with him at Shovelhead.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
Silas had the best time that night hanging out with
a drag queen with we ate somepho.
We had the best night there.
I was wearing my FreddieMercury because, yes, queen and
I was just like this is fuckingamazing.

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
I don't care, we support everybody and everything
.
Her name was Allegra.
Yeah, she was kind of famous.
She was on the fucking the dragqueen.

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
She was awesome and Silas like vibed with her so
hard and then he came back.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
He's like I think he's a man, but I don't care.
That's okay.
There was just so many bandsthere, it was just-.
It was a great night we, wewere kind of like before the
headliner.
That was really cool, right.

Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
We had a great night.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
We were doing great at that time.
I love it.
Just hanging out with so manydifferent people.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
And it was like in a tent All the venues, all the
places.
It was in a tent beside abrewery, literally, and it was
so much fun, it was so awesome.
Where was that?

Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
That was Orlando, orlando, okay.
And then Sho Orlando, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:25:42):
Shovelhead We've done so many things in.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
Orlando, yes, orlando is like our second home.
I ain't even going to lie.
So do you remember the guy thatwas singing at both places I
mentioned Shovelhead and thebrewery right the guy that would
turn his head sideways with thelong hair and was screaming and
just had the whole crowd?
Just amazing, Just fucking thisguy.

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
Okay, yes, he was so animated and so amazing.
So fun, I just had to latch onto Eric.
He's also been at.
Was it Gina's he's been in?
Yeah, gina's Lounge.
I think we played at Gina'swith him, did we?

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
It was like three different places.
We played with Eric and justall of his projects and all the
bands that he's been in.
He's so much fun, he's so funand all the bands that he's been
in.

Speaker 1 (01:26:23):
He's so much fun.
He's so fun.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
So follow Eric.
The band Hate it and this song.
I, you know, just can't getenough of it.
I'm going to show it to Lindsaybecause she has to read this
fucking song.
These guys are so amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
So it's called Trictalomania Brother.

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
Yeah, you guys got to check it out.

Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
Or Trictalomania Brother yeah, you guys got to
check it out.
Or Tric-ta-la-mania brother.

Speaker 2 (01:26:48):
Well, I didn't want to do it wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:26:51):
It's very long.
We will be posting it in ourInstagram.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
Follow us we're going to share it.
Thank you, eric.
I hope you listen to all this.
I hope you share it andeverything.
We're going to support you andyou have some amazing music
endeavors.
Send us some more stuff,because I know you have some
other projects going on rightnow.
I'm excited for you, dude.
I want to see you fucking onstage again.
You know what.
I'll open for you any day, broany day so check this song out.

(01:27:17):
So this song is trictolomaniabrother, by the band.
Hate it and your guys, you guys, you guys, you guys are gonna
love it.
Check it out, all youmetalheads.

Speaker 3 (01:27:29):
What's up, here we go I got to feel the body of death
.
I must feel something, just tofeel something less.
I am an animal In a film of usall screaming.

(01:27:53):
I must feel something, just tofeel something less.
It's all sleeping.
I stand on the end of the day.
I'm tired of being me.

(01:28:13):
I I must do something just tofeel something in.
I have lost my mind.
I've never felt my heart sosweetly.
I must do something just tofeel something in.

(01:28:35):
Each step I make is a spinFeels so pain as I start to
bleed.
Anxiety is leading me Wolf andscap so that I feel happiness.
Anxiety is telling me that theblood won't, so I don't feel

(01:29:04):
pain.
I pulled out my hair.
I pulled out no faith.
I pulled it.
I pulled it.
I pulled it.
Blood flows right there when Ineed to feel something.

(01:29:28):
Yeah, I pick my teeth and kissit.
In a bad space, I pull out myhair.
I pull out my hair.
I pull out my hair.
I pull out my hair.
I pull out my hair.
I pull out my hair.
I pull out my hair.
I'm lost.
I can't.

(01:29:50):
Well, I need to feel something.
Yeah, I need my weakness and itmakes me Incomprehensible.
It makes me yeah, yeah, yeah,anxiety is me.
Trust me, give me your blood.
Anxiety is in me.
Open scabs so that I feel free.

(01:30:16):
Anxiety is killing me.
Let the blood flow.
I'm in my fakers.
You're telling me I'm pullingin Just to feel some rain.

(01:31:10):
I will not be dead.

Speaker 2 (01:31:46):
Until I'm free and my fate gets into a wave, I'll
never walk just a thousand ways.

(01:32:11):
Lindsey, lindsey, lindsey,lindsey.
Oh, I love it so much that thatraw hardcore yes, that's my
shit.
That's where my roots are Raw,fucking hardcore my roots.

Speaker 1 (01:32:33):
That's the kind of music that awakens this.
Just, I don't even know what tocall it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:40):
You were over there getting with it.
You couldn't help it.
I looked at pictures.

Speaker 1 (01:32:46):
I followed Eric Mann on Instagram.
I could not find the band onInstagram, but I found them on
Spotify.
So it's hate it with anexclamation point on Spotify.
Eric Mann on Instagram.
And then I was like I rememberthis guy.
He's so fun.

Speaker 2 (01:33:02):
What we said in the background and we were just like
this dude with his headsideways, fucking, going nuts
just everywhere.
He no shoes on, just all theenergy, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
So I was telling jesse, I was like that's the guy
.
Okay.
So we were at gina's lounge,jesse was playing with shadow of
the earth and eric was therewith his band and, um, so there
was a fishnet contest.
I really didn't I wear fishnetsto every show.
I really didn't want to enter.
She fucking killed it.

(01:33:33):
I was.
It was that time of the month.
I was in a lot of pain.
I was not even feeling going tothe show I cried, I cried on the
way um, so I was like secondrunner up to the winner, who is
a friend of mine, noellescarberry there's so many hot
chicks there and fuckingfishnets, you came in second
fucking place and he, he came upto me.

(01:33:55):
He's like bitch.
I just want you to know you'rebeautiful and you know what,
eric man, you are beautiful like.
I love you.
I love your music.
Everybody was coming up andhitting on my old lady right in
front of me because she wasfucking hot as fuck.
But like he, you have to seethis guy's stage presence.
Every project, band, everythinghe's in, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:34:17):
Follow him all of his projects.

Speaker 1 (01:34:19):
Just check them all out, Like I said yeah, jesse's
band has played with him severaltimes.
I always have a great time whenthat guy is there, like love
you, eric Mann.

Speaker 2 (01:34:28):
Isn't that cool.
I can pull out something likethat.

Speaker 1 (01:34:30):
I am so excited that, yes, you brought that back Like
core memory unlocked.
Right, yeah, yeah, I've had agreat time with that guy and we
have seen him at several showsand it's always a great time.
Music is phenomenal, time.
Music is phenomenal and I lovethose filthy breakdowns.
I love that pig squeal typefucking.

(01:34:50):
Whatever it is, I love it.
That is my jam, that is my shit, that is my.
That is my favorite things togo to.

Speaker 2 (01:34:54):
He's our age, so it's like DNA.
This guy gets it Like yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:34:58):
Jesse was playing 90s country, which I also love.
We're well rounded in in ourgenres.
But then I was like, all right,you got two songs and I need to
listen to some pig squeals likeit literally I knew this was
coming at least this part andyou broke me.

Speaker 2 (01:35:15):
Today I did break the biggest break today, yeah, you
break me tomorrow, you break meevery day, but I love you, so I
will perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:35:27):
I will keep the next one that's on this level a
little further out in the future.
I mean, like all of them arehorrible.

Speaker 2 (01:35:32):
Yeah, thank you, give me a break.

Speaker 1 (01:35:34):
But I'll give you a break.
So next week is our 50thepisode.
We are going to do a back porchparty where we play all the
bands, or most of the bands thatwe have featured for an hour.

Speaker 2 (01:35:48):
Yeah, or a little over.
Well, we're going to bestreaming live on that one.
Yeah, we're going to bestreaming live.
We're going to stream.

Speaker 1 (01:35:55):
TikTok.
So drinkaboutsomethingpodunderscore Lindsay on TikTok.
I'm going to stream live.

Speaker 2 (01:36:00):
If you want that content, you're going to watch
us live you can check out allthe bands that we've played for
our whole first season and we'regoing to go over all of them.

Speaker 1 (01:36:10):
I'm going to get on the back porch, and then we're
going to kick off second seasonin a whole different state, oh
yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:36:18):
With a new story.
Well, she's going to give you alittle something.

Speaker 1 (01:36:22):
I'll give you a little something.
We'll record a Minnesota.
A little something, a littleMinnesota.

Speaker 2 (01:36:28):
Minnesota.
We got so much to do.
We're going to go on this bigass trip.
It's like 48 hours of drivingTotal.

Speaker 1 (01:36:37):
Out of 8 days.
That's not bad.

Speaker 2 (01:36:40):
It's a lot of driving , it's a lot of stuff.
We're going to give it all.

Speaker 1 (01:36:44):
We're knocking a lot of things off of our travel
bucket list in eight days, whichis something that I've wanted
to do for years.

Speaker 2 (01:36:54):
The eastern seaboard will be fucking demolished by
the time Gen Z goes up and down.
We're going to get it, yeah, soI'm excited for that Fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:37:03):
So yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:37:04):
Eric, you fucking killed it.
So yeah, eric, and also followme for the content on that trip.

Speaker 1 (01:37:08):
There's gonna be a lot of it, a lot of it so that's
.

Speaker 2 (01:37:11):
That's the biggest thing on the end of this one is
follow the the socials so youcan find it.
I'll even get on Facebook anddo some live shit we're gonna
get a little speaker out we'regonna talk about all the bands.
We started with Curtain CallRecords, some of the bands that
I've played with, and I endedwith one of the bands that I
played with on the whole season,lindsay Fuck.
Who am I going to play next?

(01:37:31):
Who knows?

Speaker 1 (01:37:32):
50th episode.

Speaker 2 (01:37:34):
Like some crazy metal band or something.
We love metal music, but I loveall music we wrapped up.
I got some cool shit from SouthAmerica coming up too.

Speaker 1 (01:37:43):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:37:43):
Finally going to get into that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:45):
Isn't that the one continent that we weren't being
listened to?
We?

Speaker 2 (01:37:47):
haven't been.
No, that's the only continentwe haven't been.

Speaker 1 (01:37:50):
Alright, so South America, listen to us.

Speaker 2 (01:37:54):
One of our huge followings, I think our second.
Now it's like Singapore.

Speaker 1 (01:37:59):
Really, it's fucking crazy.
Jesse keeps up with those stats.
Well, I research the cases andrun my mouth.
Why do we have a lot offollow-ups in?

Speaker 2 (01:38:07):
Singapore.
It used to be LA, but now, Ithink, singapore.

Speaker 1 (01:38:09):
Singapore is number one.

Speaker 2 (01:38:12):
It's number two.

Speaker 1 (01:38:13):
Number two, Of course , the United States.

Speaker 2 (01:38:14):
Well, United States yeah, and of course, florida is
the biggest state, and then Ithink Jacksonville is the
biggest city In Florida, as faras the biggest city in Florida,
as far as the biggest cityperiod.
And then we're going global,though is it's everywhere.
And then I love it Cause I'mreaching out and I'm finding all
these cool bands, and a lot ofthem, of course, are heavier

(01:38:35):
music, but I have like reggae, Ihave some yeah, we're partial
to the heavy.

Speaker 1 (01:38:41):
Yeah, but especially me.

Speaker 2 (01:38:43):
I have some Latino music.

Speaker 1 (01:38:45):
I have some cool stuff and I have some Latino
music.

Speaker 3 (01:38:46):
Oh, I love that too Some cool stuff coming so much.
And reggae.

Speaker 2 (01:38:49):
And we have some country music bands.
I don't mind anything, we don't, we love it all.
We just want to share yourcontent.
So all the bands check us out,send us your stuff and if you
don't reach out, after seasontwo I'm actually just going to
start replugging the same bands,because I want to support the

(01:39:10):
bands that are really a part ofus.

Speaker 1 (01:39:13):
Yeah, because they have a lot in their catalog as
well.

Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
And we actually latched on to a couple of
cool-ass places and a coolmanagement and just support and
that's what we want to do as faras the music and the end of all
of the horrific stories thatLindsay tellssey tells, we want
to share music.

Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
I broke my husband you broke me.

Speaker 2 (01:39:31):
I need a reset, reset oh a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:39:36):
There's a long story behind that.
We'll tell that another day.

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
Yeah hey, we have a couple little cool contests
maybe we'll tell that in ourrecap yeah the story behind
reset, reset, we might, we mighta couple little, uh cool
contests.
There was a joke that I'd saidway back in season, in our first
season, right I'm knocking themic, so if you hit us, up and
you tell us the answer to thatjoke, and then the uh adam

(01:40:00):
sandler flask count.
So how many flasks did weretheir drink out of the crazy
flat?
You know, what's funny isbecause the flask from fucking.
So how many flasks were their?

Speaker 1 (01:40:06):
drink out of Get in the flask.
You know, what's funny isbecause let's get in the flask
from fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:40:09):
Yeah, ties together.
All the flasks, adam Sandler.
We were watching HotelTransylvania 3 and just how
beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:40:15):
That's my favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:40:16):
That's my favorite one.
How beautiful they just tie allof their friends together.

Speaker 1 (01:40:21):
Yeah, that's why I love adam sandler so much.
It's not just him, it is all ofall of his entourage his
college buddies, his snl buddies, his buddies that he's made
along the way, music musiciansthat he loves and appreciates,
like dave matthews, oh my god,everybody, dave matthews, uh,
characters in his movies areiconic.

Speaker 2 (01:40:42):
they're small, but, but we take advantage of
everybody that comes in thereand then all of their life
changes.
And everybody Shaq, fucking RobSchneider and people that have
just David Spade.
Kevin James.

Speaker 1 (01:40:58):
Chris Rock, nick Swardson I love them all.
I am Zdolf, I'm Zdolf, I amZdolf, I love them all.
I am the Dolph, I'm the Dolph,I am the Dolph.
So I have finally foundsomebody that loves that movie
as much as my family does, sothat's Just Go With it.
Adam Sandler movie One of mymanagers she knows every fucking

(01:41:20):
word and line and scene of JustGo With it, and we quote that
shit all the time.
If you haven't watched, just GoWith it, and we quote that shit
all the time.
If you haven't watched, just GoWith it, just go watch it, just
go with it, just go with it andjust go watch it.
Oh my God.

Speaker 2 (01:41:35):
We love you guys.
We will see you guys on our50th explosion.
We're going to play a bunch ofmusic, and then Lindsey's going
to well music on the socials,right, and then we're going to
do a little something, something, a little side story, a little
something, something Just to capoff.

Speaker 1 (01:41:50):
I don't want to say side story, because that's a
last podcast thing, so we'llcall it short story.
How does that make you feel?

Speaker 2 (01:41:55):
Lindsay, a first year of just doing podcasts.
A whole year, one whole yearout of your life.
A Minnesota with theseheadphones on I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:04):
I've loved this journey so much you feel like
you're calloused.

Speaker 2 (01:42:07):
Yet no, I'm not I mean I was calloused before I
started, before you fucking you.

Speaker 1 (01:42:12):
But there's still ones I mean, y'all have heard me
cry on a few episodes and nowyou've heard me and now you've
heard jesse cry.

Speaker 2 (01:42:20):
You probably heard me a little bit here and there,
but I just want y'all to know.

Speaker 1 (01:42:23):
Jesse took off his headphones and stood at our
refrigerator because we recordin our kitchen.
We are just average little joeswith a dream in our kitchen.
He was standing at ourrefrigerator sobbing period and
I messaged my group chat of mybesties and said y'all, david

(01:42:43):
park, parker Ray has broken myhusband and Aaron, she goes oof.
That's a hard story.
I'm like I know Jesse's dying.
I'm dying.

Speaker 2 (01:42:55):
Let me get off here, let me get off here, lindsay,
can we be done?

Speaker 1 (01:42:58):
yes, so stay tuned for our recap on Wednesday.
We love y'all so much and we'llhave more for you in the future
.
Thank you for staying with usthis far and yeah, yeah, yeah,
we love you so much.
Yeah, bye.

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