EPISODE 53: WAS THE DEVIL IN CONNECTICUT

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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
Hey Jesse.
Hello, Lindsay.
What are you drinking tonight?
I have.
It's it's drink about somethingat night.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (00:11):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (00:12):
So I took a Manhattan and I added some stuff
to it, and it's really good.
Yeah?
A little this, a little that.

SPEAKER_00 (00:18):
He's got a cocktail and a cocktail.

SPEAKER_03 (00:21):
My mom upside the head with a wiffle ball back.
I got everything.
Ever I think.
What do you got over there?

SPEAKER_00 (00:27):
I well, I finished up.
So for our recap, I made uh amixture of blackberry vista bay
serge with lemon regular vistabay.
And that was delicious.
It was like a blackberrylemonade.
And now pop go to weedle.
I'm having a watermelon vistabaebecause they didn't have my

(00:49):
normal mix that I normally get.
So I had to get the other one.
And I like all the ones in theother mix, which is watermelon,
lemon.
I forgot what the other one is.
Watermelon, lemon.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06):
I think you need to do some more Bay Watch.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08):
And then there's passion fruit.
And I don't like the passionfruit.
So I feel like but you drink thepassion fruit.
Yeah.
I do.

SPEAKER_03 (01:14):
So yeah, do a little bit more Bay Watch and then get
back with us.
A little bit more Vista BayWatch.

SPEAKER_00 (01:19):
But there's a fourth flavor in there.
Oh, peach.
It's peach.
Yeah, it's peach.
Yeah, it's peach.

SPEAKER_03 (01:23):
Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:24):
So yeah.
They didn't have my normal mix,which is uh the raspberry, black
cherry, pineapple, and lime.
That's the normal for uh 12 packthat I get.
It's get got four of each.

SPEAKER_03 (01:37):
Three of each.

SPEAKER_00 (01:38):
So I don't get to sing my raspberry song that's
you don't get to sing raspberry,but the bay.

SPEAKER_03 (01:45):
I like that.
I like that.
Hey, Lindsay.
Let's kick this thing off.
Happy Friday, everybody.
Oh my goodness.
Here we go.

(02:12):
We're literally over here.
Is it this?
I like the jam, dude.
I like the jam.

SPEAKER_00 (02:19):
This is our intro, man.
It's part of our life now.

SPEAKER_03 (02:22):
It's the jam.
It's the jam.

SPEAKER_00 (02:24):
We're one year in, man.

SPEAKER_03 (02:25):
This is the signal for you to actually destroy me,
and I love it.
Yeah?
Why do I love it so much?

SPEAKER_00 (02:31):
Well, I don't know why you love it so much, but can
I ask you a question?
What made you feel old thisweek?

SPEAKER_03 (02:45):
Thank you.
Thank you for dropping thatagain.
Shopping.
For vitamin supplements.
That way I feel better.
Vitamin.

SPEAKER_00 (02:54):
When you said shopping, I went right to um
fucking Dave Chappelle from God,what, 30 years ago?
Nutty Professor?
The Nutty Professor.

SPEAKER_01 (03:05):
We'll be shopping.
I can't stop a woman fromshopping.

SPEAKER_03 (03:11):
That's what I was doing.
Like I was shopping forvitamins.

SPEAKER_00 (03:14):
Hold on, real quick.
Okay, so Silas is in the kitchenright now because we're not
gonna get into bad stuff for awhile.
What you got?
Hold on.
Let me tell, let me tell ourlisteners, we have made a
grazing charcuterie board forthis evening.
And he's getting juice on myscript.
So what what combination do youhave there in your hand that
you're geeking about?

SPEAKER_01 (03:32):
A cracker and uh some a ham and a cucumber in the
middle, and ham and a cracker.

SPEAKER_03 (03:38):
Cracker, ham, cucumber, and ham.

SPEAKER_00 (03:40):
So it this is um it's salami, it's peppered
salami.
Yes, it's salami with a uh witha chili um scalloped cracker
from Aldi.
I got we got all the charcuterieum needs over here.

SPEAKER_03 (03:55):
Yeah, he's over there grazing, but we're gonna
kick him out here a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 (03:58):
And we made cucumber salad, but it's with sesame oil
and uh and chili oil, the chili,the chili onion crunch oil.

SPEAKER_03 (04:08):
All of it was so good.
She got mad because I found somecool stuff over there on the
counter.

SPEAKER_01 (04:12):
Yeah, he's not allowed to have the sweets yet.
That's for later.
But she's like, You're supposedto be grazing.
I'm like, dude, it's in the samepasture.

SPEAKER_03 (04:20):
No, like cows do move.
They don't just stand in onespot.
It's in the other pasture.
No, it's it's part of thecounter, damn it.
Counts all day long.

SPEAKER_00 (04:30):
But yeah, we've been grazing on some charcuterie.
We did our recap, and you saidthat what made you feel old was
shopping for what?

SPEAKER_03 (04:41):
For vitamins and supplements to make me feel like
like energetic and better and behealthy at the same time.

SPEAKER_00 (04:48):
I felt that 110% I have been on a correct vitamin
journey for like two years now.

SPEAKER_03 (04:55):
Isn't it crazy?
Because I was pointing out lastnight when I was kind of
bringing that up, and I waslike, you can buy the same
vitamins from differentcompanies, and it's a whole
nother effect.
Like they're like, oh, allorganic, these are the best
ones, blah, blah, blah.
And you buy it from the sameexact things, same everything,
milligrams, everything,whatever.

(05:16):
And it's a different, it'sdifferent.
I don't know why.
Why can't they make a consistentlike?

SPEAKER_00 (05:21):
I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 (05:22):
I don't understand it.
I hate it.

SPEAKER_00 (05:23):
But um, yeah, so I have I am 43 years old, and I
have PCOS, and I'm also goingthrough the perimenopause, and
um, it constantly feels like I'mpregnant um with the bloat that
I have constantly.
I get one week, one full weekout of the full out of the whole

(05:45):
month that I feel normal.
That I feel good, that I feelnormal.
Um, other than that, I'm eitherovulating, PMSing, or on my
actual period, which my goodweek is coming up in about two
days.
So excited.
Um, but anyway, so I'm trying tofind supplements that will help

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me with this bloat.
And I have been througheverything.
I have ordered all thesupplements that everybody says
helps with bloat.
I haven't found a good one yet.
Now I have ordered Primal Queen,um, that I have seen a lot of
good reviews on, and even goodreviews by people I actually

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know.
So I'm ordered them and we'regonna see fingers crossed, you
guys, because I am just sosecond tired of feeling like I
am bloated constantly.

SPEAKER_03 (06:37):
I hate that for you.
Yeah, because dudes have a lotof old dude problems too.
I mean, you have tests.
I exercise stuff.
So that's what I'm looking for,you know.

SPEAKER_00 (06:45):
I exercise, I eat healthy five days out of seven.
And most of even on the daysthat we splurge, we still don't
eat horribly, like at all.
And um take in a little bit moregarbage than you do.
You do take in a whole lot moregarbage than me, but I don't eat
a lot of fast food.
I I uh w we meal prep at home.
Um and even when Silas and I goout to eat, I I go and eat salad

(07:08):
bar.
I mean I eat the meal prep.
And I don't even eat the the Idon't even eat the bad stuff
that's on the salad bar, I eatthe vegetables, and that's it.

SPEAKER_03 (07:16):
I eat the meal prep four times this week.
So that's good of me.
Good of me.
And every Wednesday, though, byGod, I'm going telly on it.

SPEAKER_00 (07:23):
Well, on Wednesdays we go to Ruby Tuesdays, but like
I said, all I'd eat is saladthere.

SPEAKER_03 (07:27):
Yeah, but I mean, I had to have my pumpkin spice
latte something.

SPEAKER_00 (07:32):
Yeah.
My baby's a basic white.

SPEAKER_03 (07:37):
Damn, dude, and I couldn't help it.
I was like, you know what?
Give me a big thing.

SPEAKER_00 (07:40):
Do you get the pumpkin, the white pumpkin
mocha?

SPEAKER_03 (07:42):
The white pumpkin mocha.
Fist pumps.
Oh, with an extra shot becauseyou know I like to.
Yeah, he likes that.

SPEAKER_00 (07:47):
He likes to feel his heart palpitate.

SPEAKER_03 (07:49):
And I'm old, and I should use that for next week
because it helps me poop.

SPEAKER_00 (07:52):
But yeah, I agree with you.
Like I had nothing planned forwhat I felt also.

SPEAKER_03 (07:57):
Oh, you're piggybacking off of my.

SPEAKER_00 (07:58):
No, but I feel you 100% because I have been on a
what supplements work for mejourney for a long time.
Um, I have okay, so now I havegotten D3, K2, and magnesium
glycinate, and uh, and then I'veordered the primal queen.
And according to all theperimenopause groups that I'm

(08:20):
in, that combination is supposedto make me feel like a new
woman.
So I'm gonna get back with youguys in 30 days and see how it,
yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (08:26):
So we're gonna keep an eye on that and see what's
going on, which of course I'llknow first.

SPEAKER_00 (08:30):
But yeah, and I am, I mean, I've of course I'm not
trying to have children, nor,but I am taking prenatals
because they help with my hair,skin, and nails, and with my
iron levels.
So I am taking a prenatal, andum, so that is the only like
multivitamin that I take.

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I was taking uh a multivitaminfor women for my age, and it
made me gain 10 pounds.
Goodness.
The vitamin itself.
Stopped taking them.
I lost it like that.
The fuck?
Yeah, that was like eight monthsago.
You had no idea because I justkept that to myself.
But literally, as soon as Istopped taking those, because I

(09:13):
was like, God, I just feelmyself growing daily, and I
don't know why I'm exercising,I'm eating healthy.
I stopped taking those, droppedit.

SPEAKER_03 (09:22):
So we're looking for the miracle thing for us at our
age.
That makes us both feel awful.

SPEAKER_00 (09:26):
Exactly.
Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 (09:28):
All right, you're allowed to piggyback off.

SPEAKER_00 (09:29):
We're trying not, we're trying not to go to
Ozimpic sumaglutide roots, butwe may have to wait a little
bit.

SPEAKER_03 (09:36):
We don't, we haven't, it's not been around
long enough to know what sideeffects are going on with that.
So I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 (09:41):
What I've seen, I mean, I see people lose weight
on it, but they age a lot intheir face.
And I'm I'm not a Botox queen.
I don't, I don't do any of that.
All I I drink, I do drinkcollagen and I I moisturize.
Okay.
And I use a um a face cleanserwith hyaluronic acid.

SPEAKER_04 (10:00):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (10:01):
But I'm not, but I don't want to age myself faster
because I I mean, I'm fortunateto have good genes to where the
women in my family age verygracefully.

SPEAKER_03 (10:11):
Good jeans there, Lindsay.
Hey, why don't we fire off thispodcast though?
You got a lot to talk about.
I see your shoes.
I do.
I do have a lot to talk about.
We could talk about medicineforever because we're that old.

SPEAKER_00 (10:21):
But first of all, I need to um make sure that we
plug us in really quick.
If this is your first episode,hello.
Hello, welcome.

SPEAKER_03 (10:29):
Hello.

SPEAKER_00 (10:30):
And uh what we do here is we have some drinks.
We talk about true crime.
Um, usually it's something thatJesse has well, not usually like
99.99%.
I'm talking about stuff that hehas no idea about.
So his reactions are a hundredpercent natural and organic.

SPEAKER_03 (10:52):
One of these days I'm gonna like do all the
research on exactly what you'retalking about.
And he's gonna blow your mindflip the script.

SPEAKER_00 (11:00):
Yeah, one of those.
But um, so we have coveredeverything.
Uh I I mentioned in our lastepisode, a few, the first few
episodes.
We have also covered uh GertrudeBanazouski.
We have covered Jessica McCarty.

SPEAKER_03 (11:15):
Oh, Dirty Gertie.

SPEAKER_00 (11:16):
We've covered Christmas at the Anderson,
Psycho Santa, Hometown Colts,and Johnny Cash.

SPEAKER_03 (11:23):
Yeah.
I thought Charles Me was reallyinteresting.
We didn't find a lot, but it'sreally interesting to dive into
that.

SPEAKER_00 (11:30):
I mean what Jesse and I have found out about
finding out about cases in thistown is it's really hard.
It's it's so swept under therug.

SPEAKER_03 (11:40):
Yeah, yeah.
They might cancel me for evenadmitting some of the things
that get swept under the rug.
Because I admit it.
I really do.
I'm gonna say it, dude.
I mean, you even know somebodythat got ran over that was dead
before that.

SPEAKER_00 (11:53):
Sure do.

SPEAKER_03 (11:54):
All that.

SPEAKER_00 (11:54):
Yeah, and there ain't nothing about that either.
Now you and I can go down to thecourthouse and we can we can get
some public records on some ofthese and probably put together
an episode over that.
But at the same time, like I'mvery uncomfortable with doing
that.

SPEAKER_03 (12:13):
I'm not, dude.
I'm a I'm a nut up.

SPEAKER_00 (12:16):
Jesse is not uncomfortable with confrontation
whatsoever, which I considerthat a form of confrontation.
Being like, um, can I get therecords or this death here?

SPEAKER_03 (12:26):
I want to be unconfrontationally
confrontational.

SPEAKER_00 (12:29):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (12:29):
I don't mind because we can go to Gainesville and get
all the fuck we want becausethat's really where it's at.

SPEAKER_00 (12:34):
It really is.

SPEAKER_03 (12:35):
Yeah, you look back when Al Capone came here and was
all the murders and lynchingsand crazy shit that happened.

SPEAKER_00 (12:40):
Well, the main article I found about Mead was
from the Gainesville Sign.
Exactly.
Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 (12:45):
Lake City behind some dirt.

SPEAKER_00 (12:47):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (12:48):
We don't want to talk about it.
Come get me.
Watch my taxes and shit go up.

SPEAKER_00 (12:51):
We will give you our address.

SPEAKER_03 (12:53):
Go get me.

SPEAKER_00 (12:54):
But, anyways.
So, um, you haven't asked mewhat we're drinking about today.

SPEAKER_03 (12:59):
What are we drinking about, Lindsay?
We've talked about so much.
I felt like we we should end thepod by now.
I'm sure.

SPEAKER_00 (13:05):
Well, we're we're drinking about the devil.

SPEAKER_03 (13:08):
The devil?

SPEAKER_00 (13:09):
The devil in Connecticut.

SPEAKER_03 (13:12):
That's the fucking theme for this one?
The Devil in Connecticut.

SPEAKER_00 (13:16):
The devil in Connecticut.

SPEAKER_03 (13:18):
Not the one that went down to Georgia.

SPEAKER_00 (13:19):
Not the one, no.
Uh, this devil did not play thefiddle.

SPEAKER_03 (13:25):
Is this about like some ghost or something that
hung out in the woods?

SPEAKER_00 (13:28):
Well, last night, uh, when I came home, you know,
we've been, we're we we were offon vacation and we've had busy
weekends.
So we're trying to catch up onour on our horror movies.
So we want to watch some newones and we want to watch our
classics.
And last night I came home and Iwas like, let's watch the
exorcist.
Well, I didn't even say that, Ijust put it on while Jesse was
in the shower.
And when he got out, he's like,I hear the music.

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Are we watching the exorcist?
And I was like, Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (13:52):
I was not even around to see it, but I heard
it.

SPEAKER_00 (13:54):
I had no I had an agenda for that.

SPEAKER_03 (13:56):
Oh, for for that and this and that and the other?

SPEAKER_00 (14:00):
Wow.
Uh, it's fresh on your brainnow.

unknown (14:02):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (14:02):
So I just want you to remember everything that we
watched last night while I talkabout this case.

SPEAKER_03 (14:08):
You know those stairs that those were so
creepy.
We walked up these exorcistsbefore daylight.
Yes, and Silas is over thereholding his fingers up because
he got to walk up on two.
We're fixing to kick him outthough soon.
Yes.
We got to get fired off here.
But Lindsay, I am.

SPEAKER_00 (14:26):
We're gonna let him fill up his water glass and kick
him out.
So BRB.

SPEAKER_03 (14:31):
Yeah.
We're going on.

SPEAKER_00 (14:35):
So in Connecticut in 1980, there were two families
that would be tied together theGlatzels and the Johnsons.
Carl and Judy Glatzel lived inBrookfield and had four
children.
Debbie being the oldest, who was26 at this time, Carl Jr., who

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was 14, Alan was 13, and Davidwas 11.
Silas's age.
This is Alan.
And this is Alan.
So Debbie, she had had ashort-lived marriage when she
was a teenager and had a sonnamed Jason, and she was a
professional dog groomer.

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She lived in Bridgeport with theJohnson family and had been
boarding with them for aboutfour years.
The mother of the Johnsonfamily's name was Mary, and she
was a divorcee who had fourchildren of her own.
The oldest being Arnie Cheyenne,who was 18 at this time, and
three younger girls.

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One was her niece that she hadtaken on to raise.
In Mary's youth, she had wantedto become a nun, but she changed
her mind because she wanted afamily.
And you know, nuns can't dothat.
They can't be doing the nasty.
Can't do both.
Can't do the nasty and makebabies when you're a nun.
So um Arnie and Debbie, theywere in a relationship, but they

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wanted to get a place, a biggerhouse, not a place of their own,
but a bigger house where Arnie'smother, Mary, and the girls
would move all move in together.
They just wanted a bigger house.
Right.
Mary had had um some medicalissues.
I think she had colon cancer.
So she, so Arnie wanted to makesure he and Debbie, like they

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were gonna be the grown-ups,they were gonna get a bigger
home, take care of his mother,and then the girls.
So they had searched for aboutsix months and finally found a
place that was big enough forall of them.
And they would be allowed tobring their sheet dog, whose
name was George.
Oh.
Yes.
Now, all Arnie had always beenthe man of the house and even

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used his paper boy earnings tobuy his mom a car.

SPEAKER_03 (16:51):
Wow.
He's making bank throwingpapers.

SPEAKER_00 (16:54):
Yeah.
Well, Mary, like I said, she was42, and like I said, she had
colon cancer, and Arnie justwanted to make sure she was
taken care of along with hissister and his cousin.

SPEAKER_03 (17:04):
That's some good ass.

SPEAKER_00 (17:05):
His sisters and his cousins.
That's nice.
The house that they foundincluded an apartment that
Arnie, Debbie, and Jason wouldlive in, and then Mary and the
girls would stay in the mainhome.
The house was going to cost alittle over$500 a month with
utilities included.
So this was a good deal.
I mean, even though this was1980, this was a big home.

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So$500 a month was includingutilities, was a good deal.

SPEAKER_03 (17:32):
In that area.
Yeah, even in the 80s, yeah.
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (17:35):
Absolutely.
Because now that would be about$3,000.
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (17:40):
Uh yeah, I believe that for sure.

SPEAKER_00 (17:42):
So Mary signed the lease and they paid around$1,100
to move in.
Arnie helped Debbie at theKennels, and he had uh for his
work, Arnie helped Debbie at theKennels part-time, and he had a
he had private landscaping jobs,and he was about to start a new
job as a tree surgeon.

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Which I'm not really sure whattree surgeons do.
Do you know?

SPEAKER_03 (18:07):
I don't know.
Maybe it's a citrus thing.
No?
I don't know.
I mean they they grew a lot ofpines and stuff up there.

SPEAKER_00 (18:13):
I mean, I don't know.
I did not as you can see from mynotes, I put a lot into this
case, but I did not Google whata tree surgeon is.

SPEAKER_03 (18:21):
Douglas firs and Christmas trees and stuff.
I don't know.
Let's look it up real quick.

SPEAKER_00 (18:25):
Hey Google.
Could be.
What is a tree surgeon?
Okay, so basically likelandscaping the trees.
Right.
Okay, okay.
Okay.
I I was not sure what that jobconsisted of.
So I was just curious as I wasreading this because I put it in
the because I knew that's whathe did, but I wasn't sure what
uh what all was involved inthat.

SPEAKER_03 (18:47):
Cutting and splashing and doing cool shit
with them, like some crazyfucking origami fucking.
Yeah, oh, that would be cooltoo.
Yeah, let's go there.
That's what he does.
That's what he does, Lindsay.

SPEAKER_00 (18:59):
Well, on July 2nd, 1980, theyset out to move into the new
house.
They arrive, and uh they seenow.
I guess they did not look atthis house like at all.
Like now, a day.
You're gonna go look at yourhouse that you're gonna move
into, probably two or threetimes.

SPEAKER_03 (19:17):
They got a sight unseen.

SPEAKER_00 (19:18):
Sight unseen.
What?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (19:20):
Just happy to get out and and prosper.

SPEAKER_00 (19:24):
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (19:24):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (19:25):
Because I guess um from the ad in the paper, that
they they uh it sound it soundedlike everything they wanted, so
they were just ready to go.

SPEAKER_03 (19:33):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (19:34):
Okay, so they move in, but they are they they get
there, they arrive, and they seethat it's gonna need some
cleaning and some fixing up andsome yard work, but nothing that
they couldn't handle.
So they just go ahead and startmoving their stuff in.
But then some problems arise.
Uh, first, the previous tenant'swaterbed was still in one of the
rooms, and it took up most ofthe space in that room.

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So they couldn't do anything inthere.
Then the apartment extensionthat Arnie, Debbie, and Jason,
little Jason, her little boy,we're supposed to move into was
still being occupied by thelandlord's niece.
And she reveals that she's gonnabe there for at least another
month.

SPEAKER_03 (20:15):
Oh, she's locked in there.

SPEAKER_00 (20:16):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (20:17):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (20:18):
So they're like, what the fuck?
But it's not the end of theworld.
So Debbie, out of nowhere, whilethey're while they're getting
all this done, she she juststarts getting an attitude and
she's yelling, which is reallyout of character for her.
And she later apologized andthey kept unpacking.
Well, Judy, Judy Glatzell,Debbie's mom, she came over with

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her boys, Debbie's littlebrothers, for help, uh, to help
out.
And she brought lunch.
And Arnie, after lunch, Arniegave them all little tasks to
keep them busy.
You know, okay, you come overhere and you sweep.
And uh, so it was David's job togo room to room and check the
closets and get rid of anygarbage, things like that.

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And uh, like I said, one of theother boys was to sweep, and
then one was supposed to gooutside and you know, straighten
up the yards.

SPEAKER_03 (21:08):
Isn't that beautifully healthy?
Like everything is just seemingso amazing at this point.
I'm loving it.
You know, I can picture like thescenery.
You know, we were just up therenot too long ago, and it was
just like I'm picturing thiswhole lovely story so far.

SPEAKER_00 (21:23):
Well, Connecticut was one of the most beautiful
areas that we rode through.
Um, but let me say everythingeverything nice ends here.
I knew it was coming.

SPEAKER_03 (21:36):
That's why I had the plug, dude.
I had to make it.
I was not done painting thepretty little fucking trees and
the pretty little mountains andshit.
And the happy little accidents.
Happy little accidents andmurders and death and carnage
you're finna dump on me.

SPEAKER_00 (21:51):
So about an hour later, they hear the boys
giggling and found them playingon the waterbed and making
waves.
Do you remember doing that?
Did you ever experience awaterbed?
Okay, okay.
My parents had a waterbed, andwhen they were not around,
because I came when I got offthe bus every day, I was home by
myself for an hour.
That was the first thing I did.
I was jump on their waterbed andmake it slosh.

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I had one up till I was like 16.
You had your own waterbed?
My own waterbed.
Okay, now when I moved out of myparents' house when I was a late
teen into me and my me and mybuddy Carrie.
We moved in together and weshared a king-size waterbed, and
it took up her whole room.
Right.
There was room for a dresser anda TV.

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That's it.
And the dr and the TV was on topof the dresser.
I mean, we never, you know, Imean, we we shared the bed, yes,
but like we never we werenowhere near each other.
You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 (22:49):
But playing and doing, yeah.
But let me tell you something.

SPEAKER_00 (22:51):
When the heating pump went out in that thing, oh
my god.

SPEAKER_03 (22:55):
I turned mine off during the summer, dude.
I slept so well.

SPEAKER_00 (22:58):
This was during the winter.

SPEAKER_03 (22:59):
I know, but wasn't it?
That was that was awesome.

SPEAKER_00 (23:01):
We had to put like three blankets down to before
you because it was so cold.
Waterbeds were wild.
Yeah, wild times.
You you don't you don't hearabout them no more.
No, why?
They were cool, man.
They were a mess.
They were a mess.

SPEAKER_03 (23:18):
I didn't have our own problems.

SPEAKER_00 (23:20):
Well, I did.
So later on, um, years later,when I'm out on my own and I'm a
single mom with three boys, thislady at work sold me a waterbed
in great condition, yeah, pre-onfor$50.
Now, the headboard, the framewas beautiful.

(23:41):
Okay.
I go to fill up this mattress,it is full of holes and it
flooded my house.

SPEAKER_03 (23:49):
Holy shit.

unknown (23:51):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (23:51):
You kept pumping the water to it, but unfortunately,
like I'm I go outside, I call mymom.
Let me tell you something.
None of the holes showed theirfaces till it was full of water.

SPEAKER_03 (24:03):
Well, because you got that lip that you lay down
first before you put themattress in.
So it had to fill up past thatbefore you started noticing.
Yes, exactly.
So that's like 200 gallonsbefore you fucking knew.
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (24:16):
So I go outside, I'm calling my mom, I'm crying.
Um, can you please bring towels?
I don't know what to do.
My neighbor overheard me on thephone, like call crying and
freaking out.
He brought over a 50-gallon shotback.

SPEAKER_03 (24:34):
And that helps so much.

SPEAKER_00 (24:35):
It got F everything.

SPEAKER_03 (24:36):
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (24:37):
So what we did was we ended up getting most of the
mattress out of the window wherewe had put the water hose in to
fill it up.
We got it out of the window.
So most of the water wentoutside, but half of it was in
the house, okay?
So we shot back all this waterup.
We had to empty it a couple oftimes.

SPEAKER_03 (24:55):
Right, work it out.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (24:56):
Work it out.
So we shot backed all of thiswater up and then used the
blower, the leaf blower, to blowdry the floor, and it didn't
ruin my house.

SPEAKER_03 (25:06):
Yeah, and you worked your ass off getting that water.
All night long.

SPEAKER_00 (25:09):
My kids slept through all of it.

SPEAKER_03 (25:11):
All the drama and trauma.

SPEAKER_00 (25:13):
Everything.
Me crying and sobbing that therewas an inch of water through my
whole home.

SPEAKER_03 (25:19):
I showed up to work one day and there was an inch of
water.
That was fun.

SPEAKER_00 (25:23):
So that was my experience with waterbeds, but
let's go back to this situation,okay?

SPEAKER_03 (25:28):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (25:29):
So David was on the waterbed making waves.
Actually, all the boys were.
And Debbie got onto them becauseshe's like, This isn't our bed.
The previous tenants, she'sgonna come back and pick this
up, get out of here, go on.
And everybody left the room.
All the boys left the roomexcept David.
Now David would feel what hewould describe as two large

(25:51):
hands pressing on his stomach,and he was shoved pretty hard
onto the waterbed.
And what appeared to be a large,strange man had done the
shoving.
And this man was see-through.
The man pointed at him with amenacing look on his face,
saying, Beware.

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And then disappeared.
So he left the room quickly, anduh Debbie called for him to come
back in that room to help.
And David said, No, I will notgo back in there.
And then he told his mom that hewas ready to go home.
He's crying, he's upset.

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Judy said, Uh, we'll go home alittle later, and he's like, I
want to go now.
And uh he had terror in hisvoice, and he ran outside with
the dog and starts crying.

SPEAKER_03 (26:46):
So now you're telling ghost stories over here.

SPEAKER_00 (26:48):
Now I'm telling ghost stories.

SPEAKER_03 (26:49):
Holy shit.

SPEAKER_00 (26:50):
Now the other boys, just a few minutes later, they
get locked in that same room andwere screaming for help, but no
one heard them.
And then the door justmysteriously opened back up, and
uh they ran out and they'relike, You guys didn't hear us,
and they're like, No, what areyou talking about?
Well, Judy, she had beencleaning pretty hard most of the

(27:13):
day, and when she was done,everything still seemed dirty.
Like a mirror that she had triedto clean over and over was still
hazy.
She said that she got an eeriefeeling when she walked towards
the back of the house andquestioned her daughter if she
was sure that she wanted to stayhere.

(27:33):
And I was like, Are you sure?
You sure, girl?
And Debbie was like, uh, all ofour money is tied into this
house.
We have to make it work.

SPEAKER_03 (27:41):
Side unseen, the story was not told.

SPEAKER_00 (27:45):
Well, the landlord's niece, Camilla, she arrived at
that time, and Debbie talks toher about when she's gonna move
out and when is this waterbedgonna get moved, and where are
the keys to the storage room inthe cellar?
Because they wanted to put somestuff down there for storage,
you know.
Thoughts I wanna say.

SPEAKER_01 (28:04):
I just can't say them yet.
I'm over here like, oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 (28:08):
You gotta listen for a while.
I'm not gonna say shit, but Igot thoughts, Lindsay.
I got thoughts.
Well, Camilla says you can't usethat room.
And Debbie was like, uh, why?
And she's like, Well, you'regonna just gonna have to talk to
my aunt about that, but shecan't use that room.
So Debbie, she was starting tofeel defeated at this point, and
David was still begging to gohome, begging.

(28:32):
So they all decided to go backto the Glatzell house.
Well, they decided to leave poorGeorge, the sheep dog.
They left him in the house.

SPEAKER_03 (28:41):
Behind.

SPEAKER_00 (28:42):
Behind.
They all go back to theGlatzels.

SPEAKER_01 (28:45):
They didn't watch the fucking troll movie, man.

SPEAKER_03 (28:48):
No troll left behind, man.
No troll left behind.
Man, I'd have ran around in myunderwear and got that dog and
brought him home.

SPEAKER_00 (28:58):
Well, David, he continued to act weird the rest
of the night and then finallytold his brother Alan, like in
the middle of the night.
He's like, Alan, I gotta tellyou what I saw in this room,
okay?
So he told Alan that he saw alarge ghost man that looked
crazy, and he was wearing plaidand old jeans, and had talked to

(29:19):
him saying, Be well.
He was wearing a fucking bandshirt of a band he didn't know
about.
Probably.
It was probably like BlackSabbath back then.

SPEAKER_01 (29:30):
Lynn Skinnered.
He was wearing a Skinneredshirt, didn't know sweet home
out of the shirt.
New England.

SPEAKER_03 (29:35):
What what I mean, honestly, what he was wearing a
John Denver shirt.
I remember John Denver's full ofshit, man.

SPEAKER_00 (29:47):
This is how religiously traumatized I am.
I remember my parents like hadgone against John Denver for a
while.
Why?
Because he was into the new age.
And I'm like, New Age.

SPEAKER_01 (29:58):
And I was like, what does that even mean?

SPEAKER_00 (30:00):
mean this dude's hanging out on he's he's he's
just uh hippie he said countrygod i'm a country boy man
country hippie man what's our nothat's your parents he was
saying country roads take mehome don't deny your DNA but I
don't know they went back to himbecause they still listened to
him later on in my but for aminute his their DNA the church

(30:22):
probably told him that somethingwas wrong with fucking John
Denver yeah fuck well anyway sohe told Alan about the ghost man
and he had told him that theghost man had pointed at him and
said beware before hedisappeared and but then David
told Alan that he could stillsee him and his in his mind

(30:44):
there was uh he could still seeeverything that was going on in
the rental house the ghost manwas tormenting him and the dog
like he could see this dog beingabused in the rental house yeah
like about 15 miles down theroad okay so Alan was like okay

(31:06):
uh we need to go tell the familyand so they did and David now
said that the old man had nownow that it was dark had changed
to a red figure with horns andhad told him to take down his
holy card of Saint Matthew andthat all of the crucifixes in

(31:28):
the house better be gone or heDavid would be punished and
Debbie was like okay I am notmoving in there where it's not
happening.
Double double double doubledouble double now David says the
ghost man says you cannot tellMiss Johnson which was Arnie's

(31:50):
mom that she cannot she cannotknow that I exist because she is
his he has been watching her fora long time and he wants to
break her down and make her dohis work he says that if you
tell her about him you will beblinded by midnight tomorrow.

SPEAKER_03 (32:11):
Fucking hell Lindsay somebody needs to call the
mystery mobile man or the Mr.

SPEAKER_00 (32:16):
Machine he also says that he's gonna break that
waterbed by three o'clocktomorrow.

SPEAKER_03 (32:22):
So bring a mop bitch that's what David tells his
sister no neighbor no shop vacno mystery mobile where the fuck
Scooby at man we need Scoobydoing this bitch.

SPEAKER_00 (32:35):
So the next day they go to the house because now
they're packing their shit backup they are not gonna move into
this house.
When they arrived George thesheepdog looked traumatized and
his hair was matted and therewere scratch marks where he had

(32:56):
tried to get out and his pawswere bloody and Arnie Arnie said
that he felt a finger tappinghim on his shoulder while he was
in the house.
So then his mother Miss MaryJohnson she showed up with with
her girls and they were happy.
They were go lucky they wereready to move their stuff in the

(33:19):
house and then Arnie and Debbietold her what happened with
David and how they did not thinkthat it was wise to move in
anymore.

SPEAKER_03 (33:27):
They were like we're we're ready I would be out
whenever they said Tippity taptap tap the rotisserie chicken
I'd have been the fuck out.

SPEAKER_00 (33:34):
Somebody touching me we love you Baylin and all of
your tourette so much you youmake our life better.
Well Mary she was pissed shesaid uh David is just a little
liar and I'm gonna move in giveme those keys well Arnie and

(33:55):
Debbie they moved out Mary movedin and when Camilla came home
Debbie told her that theyweren't gonna move in anymore
and explained what David had sawand she just laughed.
She was like girl that's just mygrandpa what no big deal he's
harmless he's been around herefor years.

SPEAKER_03 (34:15):
You got me over here looking like what?

SPEAKER_00 (34:18):
Oh you have to you have to listen so for so long
before all this comes togetherokay then Tammy okay so Debbie
they're still there and thenTammy the previous tenant she
came to retrieve her waterbedand she said that she had had
weird happenings while in thehouse she said that she heard

(34:39):
chickens that weren't thereclucking through the night like
no neighbors had chickens nobodyhad chickens around this area.
And she said she would hearfootsteps in the attic she also
said that sometimes she wouldhear her name being called
around 3 a.m3 I said baby.

SPEAKER_03 (34:59):
That is two I know I keep going that way though wait
it is three.

SPEAKER_00 (35:03):
It's 3 a.m I'm last pod you said 2 a.m so I had me
think but it's 3 a.mitching hourof Lindsay's ghost story now
with George Lutz it was 3 15 tobe exact to be exact to be exact
it still counts man but I can'thelp but be scared of an old

(35:26):
sometime we ain't gonna wash meI'm leaving well guess what
happened around 245 p.m that dayremember the ghost man had told
David that that waterbed wouldbe destroyed by 3 p.m the next
day while Tammy wasdisassembling she accidentally
punctured the waterbed boomsplashy splash 245 it wasn't

(35:50):
quite three it wasn't quitethree fucking hell man so anyway
so now Arnie and Debbie they andlittle Jason her little boy they
go back to the Glat Souls whereDavid informed them that the
ghost man now being called thebeast was mad at them and Debbie
said well tell this beast to goto hell okay tell him to go to

(36:14):
hell i got i gotta say somethingreal quick okay how in the hell
do all these ghosts know aboutdaylight savings time I had to
put this in here man how in thefuck do they all know about
three o'clock I don't know Idon't know daylight savings time

(36:37):
didn't happen in like 1600s andshit back in the day man what
the hell man so actually it wasprobably two I think like World
War II or some shit around therethey started daylight is that
when daylight savings daylightsavings started saving time yeah
I said I said delay maybe no itmight you know what I'm wearing
beetle juice shirt right now anddaylight command the one go home

(37:01):
yeah yes well I mean I don'tknow I don't know if it was
World War II or not but I don'tknow because there was like an
old Native American dude saidonly white people would cut six
inches off the bottom of theblanket and sew it on the top
every six months.

SPEAKER_03 (37:15):
Oh that's you know does that make sense?

SPEAKER_00 (37:18):
Well you know it's been 20 but it's been about 24
hours since the allegedhappening with the waterbed and
David happened and Carl Jr he isrelentlessly picking on David
about this shit and this is notnormal for him um supposedly he
was a good kid and did not pickon his brothers but um he was

(37:42):
now he was like little Davidyou're full of shit and Carl Sr.
said that it was all nonsensebut David would continue to act
possessed pretty much he wouldtalk about the beast and his
behavior and um David's behaviorwould continue to decline and

(38:04):
this started causing a lot ofproblems with the entire family.
David would have unexplainedbruises and scratches and he
said that the beast would cursehim and belittle him.
Judy said that her hair wasbeing pulled out of her scalp
and then lights in the housewould go on and off and then two

(38:27):
more entities come into the chatthat they're here now.
There's two more entities andthen the beast tells David that
all of this would stop if hewould just give up his soul Judy
would tell him to rebuke him inJesus' name and when he would do
that he would be thrown to thefloor and he would choke and

(38:48):
have seizures and then Judy'slike I gotta call the priest
time it's time we gotta call thepriest holy shit now the
priest's name was FatherMcDonald and um he was the
pastor of St.
Joseph's Church in Bloom in Iwas gonna say Bloomfield I don't
know why but it's Brookfield andhe says that now we believe in

(39:13):
good spirits and bad spirits butnot ghosts.
So this has to be a bad spiritfor me to do anything about it.
And Judy's like okay it's a badspirit so Father McDonald hands
them some holy candles and it'slike go burn these and say some
prayers and get back with me ifyou still have problems.

SPEAKER_03 (39:32):
That sounds like witchcraft it does.

SPEAKER_00 (39:35):
What but David was still tormented so the pastor
starts to think that maybe thisis made up but David convinced
him that it was real so now itwas time to bless the house okay
we got to come in and we got tobless it.
We got to throw holy water andum so after the blessing he

(39:58):
tells the family you just needto keep praying just keep
reciting Psalms 23 okay butDavid is now seeing about 40
demons.
4-0 Lindsay 40 now here comesthe dump truck of shit you're
fixing a dump on yes oh okayjust just follow along okay I'm
gonna stand here with my mouthwide open.

(40:19):
So he continues to be tormentedand uh the father contacts the
diocese and the diocese is likewell I think that you should
call Ed and Lorraine Warren.
Oh welcome back welcome backwelcome back welcome back
welcome back now this is onlyabout 12 days after they have

(40:43):
tried to move into this hauntedrental house okay the Warrens
come to the Glatso house with amedical examiner.
The Warrens conduct some tapedinterviews with the family to
make sure it was legit.
I'm holding up my quotations nowthe doctor he found nothing
wrong with David physically ormentally other than being obese

(41:06):
for his age he was just a littlehe was just a little pudge boy.

SPEAKER_01 (41:09):
You know all the family and everything just seems
so wholesome so far.

SPEAKER_03 (41:13):
I just I'm getting it like I believe all of this
right now why I don't know but Ido.

SPEAKER_00 (41:19):
I'm gonna tell you something too the first two days
of my research on this I was Iwas starting to really lean in
and then and then I was like ohand we'll get to the oh in a
little while me yet I wanted toknow I'm on I'm on but listen
but okay hang on hang on allright like I said all that the
doctor found was that um Davidwas just a little too overweight

(41:43):
for his age and um I'm gonnatell you something though he is
the exact height and weight asour 11 year old yeah in the 80s
our kid's huge right but wegotta healthy kids that all
these kids all the glatsell boyswere beefy.
All of them I can't I meanthat's just yeah the Warren's

(42:07):
diagnosis was that hey youendanger girl and uh this is
very serious but you know whatwe're here to help so Ed decides
to start questioning the demonsinside of David like how much
power do y'all have and thedemons responded with a series
of loud knocks allegedly thenDavid gets uh he gets like

(42:33):
invisibly stabbed and Judy shejust starts throwing holy water
on him and then Arnie he startedhe's reciting Psalms 23 and then
David throws up is this startingto sound familiar but there
wasn't no like green pee pukewas it a whole green so then

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David gets shot with a handgunbut like invisibly by the demon
by the beast being attacked andthe beast tells David that if
the Warrens come back he wouldbe sorry now the Warrens had
told Debbie to start keeping ajournal of all the events that
are happening.

(43:16):
So she's she's making a journalokay well the Warrens they do
come back but they figured outthe problem it was all Debbie's
fault because uh she had writtena paper on witchcraft in high
school and she owned a Ouijaboard little Deborah no so this

(43:38):
was all Debbie's fault littleDebbie can't do nothing so now
she had owned this Ouija boardwhen she was pregnant with
little Jason and she said thatthe Ouija board or the spirit
that she contacted through theOuija board had predicted that
she was going to have a boy andhad even gotten the height or

(43:59):
the excuse me the weight and thelength of little Jason correct
and the day and time of birth.
But those were all fucking notsupposed to be used after
Captain Howdy well this isbefore Captain Howdy this is
before Captain Howdy okay sothis happened in 83 the Exorcist
came out in 70 no I'm sorry thiswas in 80 the Exorcist came out

(44:21):
in 73 so it was like right afteryeah that's what I was saying
Captain Howdy was already but umI'm just gonna say that I'm
gonna I'm gonna go ahead andtell you right now listeners my
husband this is gonna sound veryfamiliar every bit of this to
super familiar but there is nouh mention that this family has

(44:44):
watched that movie but it'salmost gonna be play for play
like Reagan yeah but I think atthis at this point that was like
pop culture even for then youknow everybody knew about that
movie that's the one that that'sthe horror movie My prudish ass
mother I love you mom I knowshe's not listening but I love

(45:04):
you.

SPEAKER_03 (45:05):
She watched that movie you know what I mean like
everybody you're right whodidn't and I caught it when I
was a little younger because youknow our parents didn't give a
fuck but still I caught it whenI was younger notes well I mean
this movie came out when she wasa teen no okay let's see my mom
was born so she was in her 20syeah she was in her late teens
so she was about Debbie's agewhen Debbie had Jason right so

(45:30):
when this movie yeah the epicnostalgia of just that movie in
existence before that hand Ithink they caught wind of this I
ain't trying to I don't want tofuck with this I felt like it
was a wholesome thing butthere's a lot of rooted shit
from that movie so let mecontinue and just just wait.

SPEAKER_00 (45:46):
Oh god okay so like I said all Debbie's fault she
was the one that had invoked theinitial spirit she was the one
that opened the door for this tohappen to both of these families
the Glass and the Johnsons afterthe Warrens came a second time
David said that he was punishedand tormented by the beast who

(46:09):
David now said was Satan and hisband of demons.
And on the third visit theWarrens were like okay we got to
bless this house like didn't thepriest already do that?
Maybe that's the problem.

SPEAKER_03 (46:23):
Maybe you need to stop blessing the house well I
got to give you kudos Lindsayyou brought a band back to this
podcast like the last one.
I love it.
Well it's not a marching bandbut still it counts.

SPEAKER_00 (46:34):
It's a band of demons that they're throwing
holy water around and uh they'rethey're like you know what we
need to schedule an exorcism.

SPEAKER_03 (46:44):
It's time.
It's time.
Clock in.

SPEAKER_00 (46:47):
After they bless the house they they come back after
a few days and this timeeverything seemed like it had
calmed down a bit and David saidthat the beast and company had
had they had gone back to therental house they weren't they
weren't there at the Gladstonehouse anymore they they went
home or when they went to backto the rental house I guess that
was home for for a while he hadeven mentioned something about

(47:09):
he saw the beast go into thewell of the rental house so I
guess he liked the well do yousee me lighting up over here
because we ain't got no fuckingband Randy how many times have I
plugged that one dude every timehe talking about band the band

(47:32):
the white yoke please if y'alldon't know this reference please
watch Sling Blade iconic film ii mean like iconic film it's got
I mean Billy Bob Thornton madethat bitch he plays in that
bitch he plays Carl Childersthen you got the little boy the
little country bumpkin boy thatgrows up and he plays uh the boy

(47:54):
in um what's it called footballgame no no no well he wasn't
that too but he was best knownfor his role in Tokyo Drift yes
okay and then you got DwightYochum you got John Ritter rest
his soul I mean it's just afucking great movie please watch
it we've watched it so manytimes it's ridiculous.
Oh yeah oh and Robert Duvallmakes an appearance in that

(48:14):
bitch too yeah he was thefucking shitty dad shitty ass
dad I mean it will make you cryit'll make you laugh it'll
horrify you it's got everythingyou want in the film like
honestly please make another onejust do something bob Thornton
you're out here doing landmanand shit we want more Carl I
like landman and shit no nodon't get me wrong but still we

(48:37):
need more Carl in the in this inthe chat so okay so the beast
and the and the demons they havegone back home to the rental
house and the Warrens were likeokay but the spirits may return
so be on guard and of coursethey did on July 24th David said

(48:58):
in a disembodied voice his soulis mine I kind of like something
other deep and he is nowexperiencing constant torment
and beatings day and night sothe Warrens and a priest they
were called back to the home ofcourse it's like they're on call

(49:19):
now like just steady comingback.
Carl Jr.
He is still being an absolutejerk according to the family um
because he is uh he's he's he'slike this is bullshit he's
cussing at the family tellingthat the because he's a he's a
teenager okay he's for he'sbetween 14 and 15 well he knows
his brother right and um he istelling the he's telling them

(49:43):
that they're idiots and uh it'sassumed by the family and the
Warrens and the priests that thespirits have affected him as
well because now his behavior'schanged they're not they're not
thinking oh he's going throughpuberty they're like no he's
possessed or is that from theoutside looking in and being
like this is bullshit.

(50:04):
Right okay so he says Carl Jr.
says that David is mentally illand his mother is a nut job and
uh until their visit to therental home they had never
experienced problems with CarlJr.
They're like yeah I mean like Isaid they're just they're like
well the spirits are possessingCarl too now David was saying

(50:28):
things that he couldn't possiblyknow about allegedly he was
using diabolical languagespeaking in Latin and growling
he was acting just like Reagandid in The Exorcist.
Holy shit now the Warrens didn'tconsider him to be completely

(50:50):
obsessed or not obsessed butpossessed until August 6th and
all this all this had started onJuly 2nd okay so now we're in
August uh sixth David now spokedifferently he moved differently
his looks changed he becameviolent and things were wild now

(51:14):
arnie arnie cheyenne okay so hisname is Arnie Cheyenne Johnson
he uh he went by Cheyenne mostlybut I'm calling I'm gonna call
him Arnie because that's that'shis first name but he had been
like a big brother to theGladstone boys and would even
yell and threaten the beasttrying to protect David telling

(51:38):
him take me instead isn't thatexactly what the priest said you
were get the hell out of hereJesus is coming from you ain't
shitting you well isn't thatexactly what the priest said in
the exhaust so David in thevoice of the beast said that he

(51:59):
did plan on taking Arnie I'mgonna take you to and somebody's
gonna die.
Easy now Lindsay you're scaringme oh my god now we're a few
months down the road and Arnieuh no we're not a few months
down the road we're a few daysdown the road and Artie started
his tree surgeon job on August15th and this was in Bethel and

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this was about 10 miles awayfrom Brookville.
Didn't we drive through Bethel?
I think I remember seeing thaton a sign while we were driving
through Connecticut.
We drove through Connecticut fora while Connecticut area thank
all that is it was what what didwe say it was about four hours
from Black Tom Island to um toNorwood Massachusetts yeah we
went through Hartford and wewent you know that parkway and

(52:45):
everything we went through allthat I do I I I that sounds
really familiar but the parkwaywas so beautiful it was so
beautiful this was about 10miles from Brookfield and a few
months down the road that'swhere I was that's what I was I
was reading ahead I was readingahead of the class.
So David would still bepossessed but it was seeming to

(53:07):
slow down so Debbie was likeokay this is a good time to move
me and Arnie and Jason uh intoour own place.
Now she was no longer employedby the previous kennel but she
got a new job working foranother one and the owner's name
of this kennel was Alan Bono.

(53:28):
Now he was a super cool olderman but he had a drinking
problem and uh he was lookingfor someone to take over this
business.
He had inherited it from hisfamily and he was just he was
not really into the animal sceneum so Debbie was like me a pick
me I'm the one for the job.

(53:50):
So she took this on full timeand Arnie would help her out
part-time like after he wouldget off work from the tree
surgeon he would come and helpDebbie with the kennels so the
big bonus to this job was thatthere was an apartment on top of
the kennels for them to moveinto.
So they were like cha-chingcheck check moving out yes time

(54:10):
to get time to get the fuck out.
Now this would happen inNovember of 1980 and around this
time or just a little bit beforeDavid does get a couple of
exorcisms performed on him by acouple of priests and the
Warrens.
This is what they would call alight exorcism because they had

(54:34):
not gotten full permission fromthe diocese in the Roman
Catholic Church.
No real priests are showing upyet well the real priests are
there but they are not they'redoing this they can't do an
actual full exorcism becausethey don't have the permission
from the diocese in the RomanCatholic chair the whole power
of Christ compels you well I I'mnot I don't know exactly what

(54:56):
went on in this exorcism but itwas a it was a light one.
A light okay but this was notthe only one that David would go
through okay David would berestrained while demons were
cast out of him I think theycall this hold on a rebuking or
a something like that somethingsomething it wasn't a quite an

(55:19):
exorcism but it was rid thedemons without the full exorcism
pre-exorcism I heard onepodcaster call it diet exorcism
exorcist exorcist low carb lowcarb exorcism zero sugar so
David was restrained while thedemons were cast out of him and

(55:40):
he growled and snarled andscreamed and yelled and spit and
cussed and according to Lorrainemost of the spirits had left him
all but about four.
But those four would be the mostpowerful like the other 37 done
left the house right six holyand uh and then David got really

(56:04):
violent then he gets kicked andknocked around by the spirits
and uh then there would be twomore exorcisms performed on this
boy uh two more two other timesnow I I don't know if y'all have
uh witnessed an actual exorcismor just seen one on TV but
either one do whatever you canimagine your head this is gonna

(56:25):
be very traumatic for a childperiod now in the exorcist the
movie I know it's just a movieum but didn't he even say like
they didn't really do that shitanymore yeah they had to fucking
do this man it was big oldfucking cash grab man going to
make the money man got to get inthere and do the bang but I mean

(56:45):
like okay so Ed Lorraine Warrenare very famous at this point.
You know they have been ademonologist slash clairvoyant
team slash in Jesus name foryears.
And um they really were at theheight of their popularity right
now because of the exorcist nono no no no oh well I've because

(57:06):
of the Amityville case that wejust talked about last week.
That one too they were ridingthe fucking high wave man and it
just was really convenient thatthey lived like they lived in
Connecticut and they lived rightdown the road from the Gladwell
family like like 10 miles.
Perfect it was perfect butanyway so now David he's good

(57:27):
he's no longer afflicted butguess who is Arnie oh because
Arnie had tested that that beastand me come in to me now Arnie
would start start showing oddbehavior like cussing in church
and just acting like an actualass, you know but nothing like

(57:49):
David nothing uh nothing likeDavid had allegedly experienced
it's also reported that Carl Jr.
he was still afflicted as wellor affected excuse me but after
this the church this is allallegedly okay they would
completely abandon the Glatzlesbecause they said they had done

(58:09):
all that could be done and uhbye we're done.

SPEAKER_03 (58:15):
Or did they run out of money?

SPEAKER_00 (58:16):
Don't call us we'll call you now Carl he would start
little Carl Jr he would startacting out uh he allegedly
pulled a gun on his family Idon't know okay so I I heard in
one source that it was hismother and another source it was
his grandmother and he wasconstantly threatening the rest

(58:38):
of the family but he targetedArnie the most like he would
fuck with Arnie's clothes shoescigarettes like started
tormenting Arnie Carl littleCarl Jr.
So now he's not little he's fourhe's 15 at this point
everybody's on the field now.
Right and the police even gotinvolved in some of Carl's

(59:00):
violent behavior to the pointwhere Carl was on his way to
juvenile detention but theWarrens were like no we've
worked with this family and uhthey worked with the police also
and they had worked with thepolice a lot over the years and
they were like he's possessedit's the devil you gotta don't

(59:22):
lock him up don't lock him upofficers he just needs some
Jasons you gotta know thatthat's real bit of that's real.
Oh yeah now things seem to calmdown again the Johnsons so Mary
uh during this whole time shehad cut I mean she had cut ties

(59:43):
with her own son.
She was like fuck you Arnieleave me alone Debbie fuck you
me and these girls are going tobe happy in this house but
allegedly they did startexperiencing some paranormal
activity in the rental house sothey decided to move out And um
the family mended their fencesand Debbie and Arnie started to

(01:00:06):
plan a wedding.
Unfortunately, when Arnie helpedhis mother move out of that
haunted rental house, anotherdemon possessed him.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:17):
Welcome to the fam.
Every time you say fuckingallegedly, I think about
Letterkenny.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:28):
Gotta look Letterkinny.
We're gonna, we're gonna bingethat.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:31):
What do you Letterkenny?

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:32):
So it's a good like January is our Game of Thrones
rewatch.
So I think that during the dayon the weekends, we should
rewatch Letterkenny, and then atnight we rewatch Game of
Thrones.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:47):
Yeah, I think Letterkenny's good midwinter
stuff.
We love some Canadian comedy.
Oh my I love everything aboutCanadia.
Kannada.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:56):
We really do.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:57):
I love it.
We need to do a train trip,dude, in Canada.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:01):
Well, I'm so Dante Elizabeth James is now back on
the talk.
And because he he took a hiatusfor a little bit because he was
getting some stupid falserestrictions.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:10):
I've seen they did the cruise thing, and it was
that was yeah, they're just ohhis fucking goofy ass fucking
showing his room shit.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:17):
Oh my god.
Every single little speck of theroom, and he's like, and yes,
this is where the actionhappens.
And he's like, oh yeah, oh yeah.
You if you guys don't followDante Elizabeth James and his
all-American uh time travelingAmish boy, his husband JB, they
are the cutest freaking couple.

(01:01:39):
He is the funniest.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:41):
I think the dawn of his fame started our podcast
because we were like, heyLindsay.
Hey, Lindsay.
Oh, that's just my girl Lindsay.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:51):
Yes.
So yeah, Dante Elizabeth Jamesis a must follow on TikTok.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:58):
My kind of gay, dude.
Love we love that gay, man.
Love it.
Love it.
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:02):
And his and they're they're from they're from
Scranton PA, which we lovebecause of the office.
Yes.
So anyway, so now we're gonnafast forward to February 16th,
1981.
Jesse, you're you're all you'rein the womb at this point.

(01:02:23):
You were in the womb of yourmother at this point, right?
No.
No.
You were conceived in March.
I'm still swimming in the bag,bro.
I'm still swimming in the bag.
Gross.
So February 16th, 1981, Debbie'ssisters had spent the night with
her and Arnie at their newapartment.

(01:02:46):
Now, Arnie, he wasn't reallyfeeling good.
So he called into work.
He felt like he had the flu.
He's like, I better not go towork today.
So Debbie and the girls areworking at the kennels while
Arnie chills out and tries toget better.
Alan Bono, their boss slashlandlord, he is introduced to
the girls and he invited thewhole family out to lunch.

(01:03:09):
Now, this was around noontime,and Arnie had slept most of the
morning and was feeling a littlebit better, so he decides to go
with them.
Now, Alan doesn't eat, he justdrinks.
And uh because that's just whathe did.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:23):
Can't wait for us to retire.
That's all we're gonna do.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:25):
Yes, we're gonna get a driver and we're just gonna
drink.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:30):
We're gonna be on a cruise ship drinking.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:32):
What are you gonna have today?
I'm just gonna have a martiniwith extra olives.
That's gonna be my food intakefor today.

SPEAKER_02 (01:03:38):
And half a pickle.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:40):
No, we're just kidding.
We love to eat.
Food will never not be in theequation.
Okay, we're gonna experience allthe foods.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:47):
We're not alcoholics.
No.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:49):
We just uh But I'm gonna tell you something.
Um, with no job to go to, itwould be hard not to have at
least two drinks a day.

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:00):
Yeah, I don't think we'd let it spiral out of
control.
You know, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:03):
Uh no, because we have we have shit we want to do.
We want to hike, we want totravel, we want to, we wanna do
things sober, but we're gonnaend the night with a little
buzz.

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:14):
If you're in your 40s, tell us your plans too.
We want to know, right?
I would love to know everybody'splans.
Tell us your plans, hit us up.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:22):
Now, like I sent you that video, that one TikTok of
that of the thousand peoplestuck on Mount Everest.
We are not climbing MountFucking Everest.

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:31):
No.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:31):
No, we're gonna find us two miles is our max.

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:34):
We'll be lucky to Appalachian Trail.
If that.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:36):
If that's we need breaks with snacks and drinks in
between.
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:43):
We would do like two miles a day, and I'm I'm
carrying like a uh a I can dothree.
I can do three.
I can do three.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:50):
Yeah, I can do three miles.

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:52):
We're taking Aaron and Morgan with us though,
because they know how to fendoff bears.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:00):
Anyway, so Alan's drinking, and he wants Debbie
and Arnie to have a drink withhim.
And Arnie, he's he's been sickall morning, so he's like, okay,
I'll just have one glass ofwine.
Now, Alan supposedly orallegedly had.
Okay, so the waitress that latertestifies said that there were

(01:05:24):
13 glasses ordered to thistable.
But allegedly Arnie had one,Debbie had none, and Alan had
the rest.
Okay.
Wow.
When they get back, so afterlunch, Arnie went back, uh, he
went back to bed.
He wanted a little nap, and hehe wasn't feeling good.
So he had already been feelingsick.

(01:05:45):
He had a glass of wine, had somelunch.
Probably is like, you know what?
This is not agreeing with mytummy.
If allegedly he had been sick.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:55):
Hey, Larry.
So do me a favor.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:57):
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:58):
Stop saying allegedly.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:59):
Well, I have to because you'll see why.
It's all alleged.
The whole damn thing is alleged.
Later in the day, Debbie shestarted to feel weird, okay?
She felt some impending doom,like something bad was going to
happen.
And over at the Gladstone house,Judy got the same feeling and

(01:06:20):
gave Debbie a call, and she waslike, you know what, girl,
you're feeling weird.
I'm feeling weird.
Bring the family, come over,have dinner with us, and hang
out at our house.
Now, this was around four, andJudy started calling back every
half hour after that.
And by 5:30, she says, Hey, Ireally need y'all to get here.

(01:06:41):
I can't shake this feeling.
Get it, get your asses here.
Now, by this time, Alan, he wasdrunk and he was insisting that
the family stay for dinner.
And even though she didn't wantto, Debbie felt bad and was
like, Okay, I'll order somepizza.
We'll have it in your apartment,and then we'll go to mom to my

(01:07:05):
mom's house.
So while they're all eating,Alan, he's still drinking.
He's blaring music, and then heturns it up real loud, and then
he and then he turns on the TV,but the TV isn't acting right.
So he's hitting it and he's justacting belligerent.
He puts a hole in the wall.
It's just a very uncomfortable,over stimul, overstimulating

(01:07:27):
situation.
Me, I would be nuts.
I'd be like, fuck you, Ellen.
I'm out.
But um this this kind of scaredDebbie and uh and the girls.
So Arnie's like, all right,let's just get out of here.
Let's go to your mom's house.
So they went to go leave, andAlan he gets pissed.
And he grabs one of the girlsand blocks her from leaving.

(01:07:50):
And this is when Debbie saysthat Arnie gets possessed again.
And then he started attackingher.
Arnie, okay, so Alan's got oneof the girls.
Arnie starts attacking Debbie,beating the shit out of her.
And she's crying and she'spraying, God help me make him

(01:08:11):
stop, all the things.
But the beast has taken overArnie.
But then he goes away again.
But then he sees that now, youknow, Debbie's little sister, or
the sister or the niece, I can'tremember which one, he she is
being attacked by Alan.

(01:08:31):
And uh Arnie turns his attentionto Alan, who is still holding on
to the little girl.
So Arnie pushes Alan, and thenDebbie got Alan like by the
hair, and somehow gets thelittle girl free, and she tells
them to run and go get in thecar.
So they run down to the car, andthen all Arnie and Alan get into

(01:08:56):
a full-on fight.
And somehow, some way Arniestabs Alan five times with his
tree surge knife.
Lindsay.
This is no car, or the girlsfrom the car and Debbie said

(01:09:21):
that they hear animalisticgrowls coming from Arnie when
this happened.
But no one saw the stabbing.
That just happened like in theblink of an eye.
And uh Arnie, he just starts towalk off like he's in a trance.
And instead of calling theambulance right away, Debbie
calls her mom.

(01:09:42):
Now someone else called thepolice.
But Debbie calls her mom, shecalls Judy, and while she's on
the phone with Judy, she hearsDavid, you know, over there at
the Gladstone house say, thebeast did it, and now he's
coming to kill us.

SPEAKER_03 (01:09:56):
I'm at the plant.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:58):
I mean, like, even little Alan, uh, which is one of
the other Gladstone boys, hesaid that he started locking up
that he had never been afraid ofArnie in his life.
And he starts locking up thehouse because David says that
the beast is in Arnie and he'son there on his way to kill
them.
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (01:10:19):
You got me.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:20):
You got me over here puddling.
So now Alan, he was rushed tothe hospital.
He wasn't he wasn't dead on hewasn't dead on the scene, but he
was dead within the hour.
Yeah.
So now there has been a murder.
Arnie was picked up around uh uhin in within the next hour, and

(01:10:43):
he was still in a trance.
And when they told him why hewas being arrested, he was like,
What?
I didn't kill anyone, you've gotthe wrong guy.
Alan and I are friends.
I love that guy.
He would say that he had nomemory of anything that happened
from about 6 to 8 p.m.

(01:11:04):
Now statements were taken, andthe two girls that were in the
car that didn't see anything,the police kind of came up with
their own scenario and just hadthese girls sign it without a
lawyer present.
Without they're minors, they'rethey're little girls.
And um they just came up withtheir own little version and was

(01:11:25):
like, here's sign this.
And their little girls are like,This is not what happened.
Are you gonna change this?
And they're like, Yeah, we'llchange it later.

SPEAKER_03 (01:11:33):
Are you fucking kidding me?

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:34):
No.
Um, there was not good policework done in this case
whatsoever, and it was choppedup to a drunken brawl between
Alan and Arnie that ended up inmurder.
That is what basically waswritten up.
Okay.
They had to write something.
That's fucking crazy, though.

(01:11:55):
It's all crazy.
So, Arnie, he does not confessto anything because he has no
recollection of anything.
So the prosecution, they wereable to make the case what they
wanted it to be.
Arnie is charged with murder,and his defense is that the
devil made me do it.

SPEAKER_03 (01:12:14):
Have you not heard that before?

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:16):
That is literally what this case is called.
Just want everybody to knowthat.
So if you want to look up moredetail about it, that is what
it's called.
The devil made me do it.
His lawyer tried to present theentire possession story to the
judge, but the judge is like,no, blocked, unfriend,
unsubscribed, no.

(01:12:38):
You took him off the wall.
Yeah.
He was not having it.
And unfortunately, everythingthat had allegedly happened to
the Gladstils had been keptquiet.
So this was quite a wild story.
This was a wild defense.
So they turned it around andthey're like, okay, um, Alan had

(01:12:59):
grabbed hold of one of theyounger kids, blocking her from
leaving, which is a crime initself because she was a minor
child.
That was kind of like akidnapping.
So they went with that defensethat Arnie was just defending
her, you know, defending thekid.
Well, so experts, they would beum, they would come in and they

(01:13:20):
would evaluate Arnie and theywould try to say that he had
Tourette's, schizophrenia, and afew other things to try and help
this kid out because I do thinkthat Arnie had some problems
that were not talked about inthe original story.

SPEAKER_03 (01:13:39):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:40):
So now while Arnie is awaiting trial, David he goes
through another exorcism.
I think this is number three orfour at this point.

unknown (01:13:52):
Wow.

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:53):
Yeah.
This was not approved by thediocese.
The I mean, the church wasfucking done with the Glatzels.
Like they were absolutely donewith this family.
I don't know why, but they weredone.
So there had to be some issuesthere.

SPEAKER_03 (01:14:08):
Well, they didn't stick to their diet, Lindsay.
Their diet exorcism.

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:12):
But Ed and Lorraine insist that another one needs to
be done or there would be moretragedies, okay?
So they find a church in.
I love how you gave love toCanada because they found a
church in Canada.
Did they now that would obligeto this next exorcism?

(01:14:34):
So allegedly, an hour-longexorcism happened, and when the
priest performed this exorcismon David, the beast came out of
David and into the priest.
The beast says, I am theElzebub.

SPEAKER_03 (01:14:57):
Himself.
Yeah.
But he doesn't do them himself.
He always sends all the demons.
You have the captain.

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:09):
For me?

SPEAKER_01 (01:15:10):
For me.

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:11):
For me.

SPEAKER_01 (01:15:18):
So you think you can stop me and spit in my eye.

SPEAKER_04 (01:15:25):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:26):
Okay.
So the elderbub has now leftDavid, entered the priest, and
the priest expelled him from hisown body.
He didn't die, like in theExorcist.

SPEAKER_03 (01:15:37):
They didn't watch the movie good enough because
the devil himself don't fuckingput aside for nobody, man.
He just wants to send somepeople, man.
And where the fuck is thefigurine that was found in
Egypt?

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:47):
You know, where the fuck is that at, dude?
I could, of course, I could notrewrite this entire book, but if
you guys will look up the bookcalled The Devil in Connecticut,
which I'm going to mention hereagain in a few minutes, every
single encounter that DavidGlatzel allegedly had with the

(01:16:10):
Beast and his band of demonssounds exactly like the
Exorcist, the movie.
I mean, it is so similar.
I was like, is this theExorcist?
Like when I listened, it's asix-hour-long book on audiobook,
and I listened to every singleword.
I was riveted because it soundedjust like that's the only way

(01:16:35):
you can digest any of this.
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (01:16:37):
Any of this, you can fucking not get this out of thin
air.
You have to have something tofollow, and they followed it
fucking pretty fucking well.
Fuck Lindsay, there's somefucked up kids.

SPEAKER_00 (01:16:49):
Yeah.
So unfortunately, this exorcismof David did nothing to help
Arnie.
And uh now he's on trial.
And he is he's not convicted ofmurder, but he is convicted of
manslaughter.
And on November 24th, 1981, hewas sentenced to 20 years.

(01:17:13):
Now in prison, he married Debbieand uh he earned some degrees,
and after five years, he wasreleased on parole.
Out and about.
Stabbing a man to death.
Out and about.
Five years later.
Back to the world we come.
Right back to right back tosociety.
Now he didn't have any moreproblems.

(01:17:33):
I mean, I don't he didn't doanything else.

SPEAKER_03 (01:17:35):
Really?
Nothing else?
There's nothing else to talkabout.
Nothing else.
Nope.
Lindsey.

SPEAKER_00 (01:17:42):
So here we go.
Carl Jr., for the rest of hislife to this day, will say that
all of this was bullshit.
He says that the book, The Devilin Connecticut, the one I
listened to, was all lies andfabrication, and that the
Warrens completely exploited hisfamily for money and continued

(01:18:05):
fame.
He says that David was anundiagnosed schizophrenic and
was suffering fromhallucinations.
David was enrolled in a schoolfor kids with physical and
emotional needs.
So there's that.
So where did the devil go if hewas no longer in Connecticut?

(01:18:26):
Well, according to Lorraine, hehad achieved his goal by
possession and murder.
So I guess he just went back tohell.
That bitch went to Georgia, man.
He did.
You know what?
But wasn't the devil in Georgiabefore 1980?

SPEAKER_03 (01:18:41):
He was definitely in Georgia.

SPEAKER_00 (01:18:42):
So he had left Georgia after he lost that
fiddle contest to Johnny.
And he went up to Connecticutand possessed.
First, he possessed Butch DeFeo,then the Lutz family, now Arnie
or David Gladsel, and then ArnieCheyenne Johnson.

(01:19:03):
Like the devil was fucking busy.
But where has he been since?
Now I don't know.
This is my humble opinion, youguys, but I really do think.
Now I'm gonna do we're gonnahave a two-parter on Ed Lorraine
Warren coming up.
Oh.
And uh I haven't done all of myresearch yet, but I've dived in.
I really think that they set offthe whole satanic panic.

(01:19:26):
Holy fuck! Oh that's my humbleopinion.

SPEAKER_03 (01:19:29):
Dump truck.
The dump truck just dumped.

SPEAKER_00 (01:19:31):
Stay tuned and see if my opinion is right.

SPEAKER_03 (01:19:34):
Let me leave something real quick, okay?

SPEAKER_00 (01:19:36):
But I'm not done.

SPEAKER_03 (01:19:37):
I'm not done.
Can I leave one thing?
Go ahead.
I can leave one thing.
Absolutely.
Because I've been quiet overhere.

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:43):
Fuck.

SPEAKER_03 (01:19:44):
There's no other way to digest this.
That is it.
Exorcist, right?
We got to see those stairs.
That was fucking amazing, right?

SPEAKER_00 (01:19:51):
Yeah, the extra.
We claimed them.

SPEAKER_03 (01:19:52):
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (01:19:53):
We've got them on video.
I've even got more murders thathappened in Fall River in the
future.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:20:02):
So stay tuned for that.
We do know about one thathappened in the coffee shop too.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:06):
Yes.
I think that that all tiestogether, but we'll get there.

SPEAKER_03 (01:20:10):
So for Halloween, it's more Ed and Lorraine.
More Ed and Lorraine.
All the Jesus money.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:14):
All the Jesus money.
But we're going to get to them.
Well, we're going to come backto them and then we're going to
get back to them and then we'regoing to come back around and
then yeah.
So what I've learned throughmore research that isn't
mentioned in the book, becausethe book is, I believe, a
complete fabrication.
Is that Arnie actually had adrinking problem?

(01:20:37):
That he got violent when hedrank.
That Debbie had an affair withAlan, Alan Bono.
And that was what started thefight.
Now, Debbie, I'm saying she'skind of gross because Debbie had
been involved with Arnie fromthe age of 19 when he was 12
years old.

(01:20:59):
Oh, the story.
But she had told him shewouldn't officially date him.
I'm doing quotations here untilhe turned 16.

SPEAKER_02 (01:21:08):
Allegedly.

unknown (01:21:09):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:21:11):
Now, David would later say that the Warrens told
him that he was going to be arich little boy after marketing
his demonic possession.

SPEAKER_03 (01:21:21):
Oh, Chu and Ching.

SPEAKER_00 (01:21:23):
But guess what?
That didn't happen.
Um, but the Warrens made a wholelot of money off of him and his
family, and even Judy Gladselrealized that they had been
conned by the Warrens.
It said that the Warrensbasically put in David's head
the way that he was supposed toact and the demonic sounds that
he was supposed to make underpossession.

(01:21:45):
And he later admitted intofeeding into it.

SPEAKER_03 (01:21:48):
Cohearst fucking set off with a whole narrative and
you put everything together andyou try to tie money into it at
the same time.
Lindsay.

SPEAKER_00 (01:21:58):
Now he said he wanted attention and by God, he
got it, but he was notpossessed.
Now, they later, him and hisbrother, Carl Jr., they later
sued Lorraine in 2007, who wasnow widowed, and Gerald Brittle,
who was the author of the bookthat I read, or excuse me,

(01:22:20):
listened to, for emotionaldistress and invasion of
privacy.
Their childhood was ruined, andthey had become outcasts and
dropped out of school early as aresult.
Unfortunately, David would endup going against his word and
went back to saying he waspossessed for the Netflix

(01:22:40):
documentary called Devil onTrial.

SPEAKER_03 (01:22:43):
Devil, Devil, Devil.
You got me wide-eyed over hereover this one, Lindsay.
What a fucking mess.

SPEAKER_00 (01:22:50):
Carl Jr.
says, You ready for this?
No, but yeah.
Carl Jr.
says that Judy may have beenputting salmonics in their food
for years, which is a sleep aidand with long-term use has been
linked to mood swings, weightgain, and hallucinations.

(01:23:20):
Or was it Salmon X?

SPEAKER_03 (01:23:23):
And Mama fucking round doing the dirt, dude.
Damn, Lindsay.
You put it together now, itmakes sense, I think.
Charismatic narrative and abunch of bullshit all together
and a movie with all the rightfucking things to do, right?

(01:23:43):
Now there is satanic panic rightthere.

SPEAKER_00 (01:23:46):
Well, I don't I hate to even give.
I want to watch the one aboutthis.
I want to watch the theConjuring Universe one about
this.

SPEAKER_03 (01:23:55):
This is like full circle, dude.
We were here sitting right herelast year talking about satanic
panic, and here it is again.

SPEAKER_00 (01:24:03):
I have haven't I not told you that I have planned out
my cases.
Look at you.

SPEAKER_03 (01:24:08):
Look at you, little little Lindsay of yell.

SPEAKER_00 (01:24:12):
Now, I did not plan on the fact that we would have
visited because this time lastyear, we hadn't quite planned it
yet.
We started planning this in whatDecember?

SPEAKER_03 (01:24:20):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Beautiful though.
God.
I love Connecticut.
Now you know why I was soenthusiastic about all that,
man.
Now you know we're gonna have togo back, but I'm not driving
though.

SPEAKER_00 (01:24:31):
No, we're gonna fly.

SPEAKER_03 (01:24:32):
So you're done?
That's the whole thing?

SPEAKER_00 (01:24:36):
That's the story.
For real for this week.

SPEAKER_03 (01:24:38):
For real, Zees?
Lindsay.
The dump truck.
The dump truck that you dumpedon me.

SPEAKER_00 (01:24:49):
Now, the next two episodes will be a deep dive on
Ed and Lorraine Warrenthemselves and everything that
they have been involved in sinceI think the 40s, no, the 50s or
60s, somewhere in there.
Yeah.
So what a fucking whirlwind thatwas.

SPEAKER_03 (01:25:09):
I mean, wow.

SPEAKER_00 (01:25:11):
Now, so let me clarify really quick.
Everything that I talked aboutup until Arnie's, up until the
murder and the arrest was allfrom the book The Devil in
Connecticut.
Wow.
Which has now been um, what'sthe word?

(01:25:31):
Basically, Carl Jr.
said it was all BS.

SPEAKER_03 (01:25:34):
It's all BS.
But none of that was a realthing until the Exorcist.
None of none of the negative.

SPEAKER_00 (01:25:41):
No, Ed and Lorraine had been around for a while
before that, and we're gonna getinto that in the next couple of
weeks.
So just we're gonna go into theAnnabelle, into the conjuring,
everything.
What?
Yeah.
Next to the fantastic guy.
Oh, oh, they were them.
I'm excited.
I guess you didn't pay attentionto the movies because that's

(01:26:01):
literally who they who is whothey are in those movies.

SPEAKER_03 (01:26:05):
Eduardo and Lorraino doing things.
Did you see the picture?

SPEAKER_00 (01:26:09):
Did you see the picture of them?
Hold on.

SPEAKER_03 (01:26:11):
Oh wow.
Go back and check that shit out.
Start from the beginning.
We're doing like a whole seriesof Ed Lorraine show-ups and
there's Ed Lorraine.

SPEAKER_01 (01:26:26):
That's typical.

SPEAKER_00 (01:26:27):
Very typical.
Fucking typical.
So just so you know and ourlisteners know who may not know
who they are, which I'm so I'msurprised if you don't, but if
you don't, um, so Ed is ademonologist.

SPEAKER_03 (01:26:41):
Demonologist.

SPEAKER_00 (01:26:42):
And Lorraine is clairvoyant.

SPEAKER_03 (01:26:44):
And he didn't, he was not clairvoyant, but he can
be there and understandeverything.

SPEAKER_00 (01:26:50):
He's the science, she's the spiritual, right?
But they are religious.

SPEAKER_03 (01:26:55):
And shoving the narrative right up everybody's
asses.

SPEAKER_00 (01:26:58):
But guess what?
They gazillionaires.
Gazillionaires?

SPEAKER_03 (01:27:02):
Jesus money is thick.
Dude, can I play a band yet?

SPEAKER_00 (01:27:05):
Yes.
What band are you plugging thisweek?
I'm so excited.
You are?
I really loved um County Road400.
Isn't that what they were?
The last band we played?
Yes.
Weren't they cool?
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (01:27:16):
It was like they they um they they ride the
country wave, but they're alittle rock and roll.
It's a good bar band.
It's a good, I mean, all aroundband.
Go check them out, right?

SPEAKER_00 (01:27:24):
Real quick, what was that band that you uh you played
for us this afternoon?
Oh The Cakes.
What was it called?

SPEAKER_03 (01:27:31):
You're not allowed to talk about them right now.

SPEAKER_00 (01:27:34):
Okay, then we won't talk about them, but I'm really
digging the Butter my bread withbutter.
No, it's butter, butter bread.

SPEAKER_03 (01:27:45):
Oh my god, hold on.
We've been jamming so many coolbands.
There's so many that we found.
It's so amazing.
You know what our.

SPEAKER_00 (01:27:53):
We butter the bread with butter.

SPEAKER_03 (01:27:54):
We butter the bread with the butter.

SPEAKER_00 (01:27:55):
That is the name of the band.

SPEAKER_03 (01:27:57):
I gotta give them a plug because I'm gonna hit them
up soon.
They were amazed.

SPEAKER_00 (01:28:01):
And I plugged them back, I put it on their radio,
and guess what else fell intotheir rotation?
Was Wage War and Ice Nine Kills.

SPEAKER_03 (01:28:07):
So awesome.

SPEAKER_00 (01:28:08):
And I was like, yes, all my boys tying together.

SPEAKER_03 (01:28:11):
So the band that I have this week is called Change
My Brain with Cakes.

SPEAKER_00 (01:28:17):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:28:20):
I led you up and made you think that I didn't
lead you up.

SPEAKER_00 (01:28:23):
Oh God.
Well, I already know, guys.

SPEAKER_03 (01:28:25):
I got a preview and already love them.
You already love them.

SPEAKER_01 (01:28:29):
But you didn't know I was gonna play it, so it's
like doom, and then doom.
I'm excited.

SPEAKER_03 (01:28:34):
I edited and Lorraine did all over you.
Oh my god.
Yeah.
Read the name of that song we'regonna play.

SPEAKER_00 (01:28:39):
So the song, oh god, I gotta pull them up on
Instagram while we play thesong.
So the song that we are going toplay is called Act of Violence.
Once again, the band is ChangeMy Brain with Cakes, and they
are from Quebec City, Canada.
Bitch!

SPEAKER_03 (01:28:58):
Canada! We left off with that, and you know what?
I got a high five of you, girl.
I think we're putting thistogether and not even knowing
that we're gonna be able to dothat.

SPEAKER_00 (01:29:06):
The universe just knows us.

SPEAKER_03 (01:29:08):
Because we don't plan this.

SPEAKER_00 (01:29:09):
No, not at all.
We don't speak of what we aredoing.

SPEAKER_03 (01:29:14):
No, because you know, I'm allowed to do my
thing.
She's allowed to do her thing.
So check out this.
It's an act of violence bychange my brain with cakes.
And you're gonna fucking loveit, I swear.

SPEAKER_01 (01:29:25):
No, we have to find on the ball to pick them up the
next one.

SPEAKER_03 (01:32:33):
Holy shit, Lynn.
I love them.
Love them a hundred percentalready.
I keep finding these I love thenames.
They're like unicorn bands thatwe're finding now.

SPEAKER_00 (01:32:44):
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (01:32:45):
They're like, they're what we aspire to do,
and I love supporting it.
From Quebec.

SPEAKER_00 (01:32:52):
I have already followed uh I have already
followed them on Instagram andSpotify.
And you should do the samelisteners because why not?
They're amazing.

SPEAKER_03 (01:33:01):
We play a lot of crazy heavy metal stuff, but
we're all around.
So if you have a cool band oryou know a cool band that wants
us to plug, send it to us.
Drinkaboutsomething.sight.
We're here.

SPEAKER_00 (01:33:13):
And you can send us an email at drinkaboutsomet at
gmail.com.

SPEAKER_03 (01:33:20):
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (01:33:21):
You can follow us on Instagram, drinkabout something.
You can follow Jesse and I onour personal Facebook pages,
which is Jesse Stamba, LindsayStanbach.
What else am I missing?

SPEAKER_03 (01:33:33):
Comment on YouTube.
I would love to see you.

SPEAKER_00 (01:33:35):
Comment on YouTube.

SPEAKER_03 (01:33:36):
We see them every week, but I want to see more.
I love it.
Good or bad, I don't care.
Send us shit.

SPEAKER_00 (01:33:41):
So I did some shout-outs last week.
I'm gonna do a couple moreshout-outs.
So my bestie Cindy and my bestieJojo also avid listeners are
little niece poo, Chelsea.
I know.

SPEAKER_03 (01:33:52):
She is loving it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:33:54):
She's loving it.
And um uh there was one more.
Oh, and I can't.
Oh my god.
All of all of you guys, I loveyou so much.

SPEAKER_03 (01:34:02):
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (01:34:03):
We love you.
Thank you for your continuedsupport.
Comment, share, like, subscribe,do all the things, help us, help
us, help us grow.

SPEAKER_03 (01:34:10):
Thank you for all the love and LR.

SPEAKER_00 (01:34:12):
We're in our second season now, and uh, we want to
keep growing.
Um our uh I'm manifesting thisto be our full-time job.
That way we can give you guysmore episodes.

SPEAKER_03 (01:34:21):
Oh, I would love to do this.
I mean, I I wouldn't love itbecause you got me in this
fucking seat all the time there,Lindsay, but you know, I would
love it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:34:28):
We can do so many more.
Yes, so many more, so many, sowe can do so many different
things right now because we dohave full-time jobs.
I'm limited on the content thatwe can put out.

SPEAKER_03 (01:34:38):
Yeah, share and support, though, if you dig it,
right?
And uh, you know, send somecomments, good, bad, whatever.
We got merch, we got everythingon the website, and we keep
putting out more and more foryou guys, and I'm loving it.
Lindsay, I really am.
And this is a whirlwind shitstorm you got me in now.
Ed in Lorraine time, allthroughout the holiday season.

(01:35:02):
Halliday season.
The holiday season.
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (01:35:06):
Uh we'll see what flippity flop.

SPEAKER_03 (01:35:10):
Yeah, keep going, keep going.
Talk about some socks or someshit.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 (01:35:13):
And I like a good pair of funky socks.

SPEAKER_03 (01:35:17):
Yes, beetle juice socks.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He'll be coming down the gymnear down, except for we don't
give a shit about Christmasreally too much.
We love Halloween.
This is our.

SPEAKER_00 (01:35:28):
So stay tuned for our recap on this episode.
Stay tuned for our recap onHalloween Horror Nights Orlando.

SPEAKER_03 (01:35:37):
Ooh, we're fixing to go down here the next one.

SPEAKER_00 (01:35:38):
Yeah, we're heading down tomorrow, so by the time
this comes out, it'll be a weekfrom now.

SPEAKER_03 (01:35:42):
Yeah, maybe we'll pan around real quick and do a
couple little snappy snoozewhile we're down there.

SPEAKER_00 (01:35:46):
We'll give you a little review on the haunted
houses that we experience whilewe go down there.
Yeah.
And um stay tuned for ourtwo-part episode on Ed and Rain
One.
Two our two-part episodes ortwo-part series.
There we go.

SPEAKER_03 (01:36:04):
Series.
Series.
Seriously, series.

SPEAKER_00 (01:36:07):
We love you guys so much, and we will see you next
Friday.
Well, actually, next Wednesday,next Thursday, next Friday.

SPEAKER_03 (01:36:14):
We'll see you in the fuck ever, dude.
Check out the book.
We love you so much.
Yes, we love you so much.

SPEAKER_00 (01:36:18):
And keep it spooky.
Because we do.

SPEAKER_03 (01:36:22):
Keep it real.

SPEAKER_00 (01:36:23):
Keep it real.
Keep it real for real.
And uh hey, don't forget to umtell us your thoughts on the
DeFeo family, the Lutz family,and now the Glassel and Johnson
family.

SPEAKER_03 (01:36:40):
And Edward and Lorraine.

SPEAKER_00 (01:36:42):
Yes, tell us what you think.
Give us your thoughts, give usyour opinions, give us your
intellect.
Maybe you know something that Idon't know.
I I definitely know that youknow a lot more than Jesse
knows.
Because he lives under this uhlittle country bumpkin rock over
here.
He keeps playing with hisnipple.
Dude, my shirt's got a hole init.

(01:37:05):
He's wearing his CaptainSpaulding shirt that I got in.
So hold on, lift up your beardso I can read the whole thing.
It says Captain Spaulding'sworld-famous, tasty fried
chicken and gasoline.
It just tastes so damn good.
Exit 13 off Route 1 atRugsville.
So that's definitely from ourRob Zombie Doo Doom Doom.

(01:37:28):
Uh, which this is from House ofa Thousand Corpses.
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (01:37:34):
Come on in.

SPEAKER_00 (01:37:36):
That's his favorite song.
Jesse loves this movie.
He loves the song, and he lovesCaptain Spaulding.
Rest in peace, said Hagen.
One of these days we'll have RobZombie on our fucking podcast.
Oh.
Manifesting and Sherry Moon.
Do I get to hang out with SherryMoon?

SPEAKER_03 (01:37:51):
Dude, we're gonna have such a great time.

SPEAKER_00 (01:37:53):
Yes.
I just want to go look at theshow.

SPEAKER_03 (01:37:54):
I won't even play music or talk about music.
I swear, Rob is.

SPEAKER_00 (01:37:57):
Yeah, Rob can just have it.
Or movies or whatever.

SPEAKER_03 (01:38:00):
We're just gonna hang out.
We might talk about clothes alittle bit.
Probably talk about clothes.

SPEAKER_00 (01:38:04):
Yes, because a lot of people don't realize that.
That was Rob's initial job.
Well, he was a designer.

SPEAKER_03 (01:38:10):
He is so awesome.

SPEAKER_00 (01:38:11):
And his clothes are impeccable.
Yes, Lindsay.
Very cool.

SPEAKER_03 (01:38:15):
Let's wrap this thing up.
We got so much to do.

SPEAKER_00 (01:38:17):
Yes.
I love you so much.
We're gonna see you next week.
Have a great week.
Keep it real.
Keep it spooky.
Love you, bye.

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