October 30, 2025 • 27 mins
A quiet Ocala duplex block with kids playing in the yard should feel safe. Instead, it became the backdrop for months of hostile 911 calls, a neighborhood on edge, and a fatal shot fired through a closed door. We walk you through The Perfect Neighbor—built from body cam footage, interview tapes, and security videos—and trace how a petty patch of grass, a seized tablet, and constant harassment turned into a tragedy that shattered a family and rallied a community.
We talk about the pattern first: a neighbor who policed children on land she didn’t own, a stream of reports that officers themselves grew skeptical of, and parents teaching their kids to respect elders even when respect wasn’t returned. The film’s receipts matter. They document tone, bias, and escalation far better than memory can, making it impossible to ignore how everyday grievances were weaponized against a group of kids simply being kids.
When the conflict boils over—roller skates thrown, an iPad withheld, a mother knocking for answers—the consequences are immediate and irreversible. The case collides with Florida’s stand your ground law and the hard questions it raises: What counts as imminent threat when a door still stands between people? How does fear get judged when history shows a pattern of provocation? We unpack the interrogation, the community protest, and the outcome: a manslaughter with a firearm conviction and a 25-year sentence that arrived only after collective pressure and careful investigation.
Beyond the heartbreak, there are lessons for any neighborhood. Document every incident. Build a unified voice with your neighbors. Learn your state’s self-defense standards so misuse gets challenged early. Kids thriving outside is not a nuisance; it’s the sign of a healthy block. Listen now, share this with someone who cares about community safety, and tell us: what would accountability look like on your street? If this resonated, subscribe, leave a review, and send us your stories—we’ll feature your insights in a future show.
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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
Hey! Hey! So listen, we we just finished recording
our recap on um The Devil or Wasthe Devil in Connecticut.
And we remembered that wewatched this horrific
documentary this week.
Watch it together.
Both organic reaction to it atthe same time.
(00:21):
Oh so we watched The PerfectNeighbor.
Oh I'm gonna let you start.
SPEAKER_01 (00:27):
My god.
Lindsay comes home, right?
10:30 ish.
She, you know, gets herselfready to go to bed, so about 11.
SPEAKER_00 (00:36):
No, it was uh I got home at 9.30 that night.
SPEAKER_01 (00:39):
Oh, you got off early.
So you could do this.
So, okay, about 10.30-ish,right?
I'm tired as fuck already.
SPEAKER_00 (00:44):
I'm ready to I'm ready just to Yeah, it was about
10:30 when we started.
SPEAKER_01 (00:47):
Okay.
She's like, We we need to watchthis, right?
SPEAKER_00 (00:50):
I see, so it was it was all over the place.
SPEAKER_01 (00:53):
Yeah, I didn't know shit about fuck like I always
do.
And she's like, we need to watchthis.
And it starts out, you know,it's a police officer in his car
and it's talking about likeMarion County or something.
And I think I even saidGainesville instead of O'Cala.
And I was like, I was like, waita minute, isn't this in
Gainesville?
But Gainesville's a lateralcounty in Florida, but Marion
County nonetheless.
And it was just like, okay, herewe go.
SPEAKER_00 (01:15):
Right down the road from us.
SPEAKER_01 (01:16):
There's a woman dead, and it started out, you
know, showing all this stuff,right?
And of course, then it then itjerks back and tells the story.
SPEAKER_00 (01:25):
And it's all with body body cam footage and
recorded interviews, the wholedocumentary.
It was very well made.
I don't think I've ever watcheda documentary like that.
SPEAKER_01 (01:35):
And I love how they can start putting things
together like that because youhave live shit.
We've watched a couple of themnow, and I'm loving it.
You know, it's like you can'tdeny what the fuck's really
going on.
So yeah.
Fuck me down, Lindsay.
All the all the way through it,all the way.
She can elaborate a little bitmore with it.
SPEAKER_00 (01:52):
What was the late?
SPEAKER_01 (01:52):
Okay, so I've got a couple of ways quick.
I got a book.
I was furious, dude, in themiddle of this.
I got we all have we all havereally we wanted a revolution.
SPEAKER_00 (02:07):
Oh, I can't find an overview.
Okay, so it's a neighborhood inOcala.
It's all mainly duplexes, and mybest friend, uh, she lived in an
area just like that.
I need to ask her if that wasbecause it looked very similar
to the duplexes that I used tovisit her at.
SPEAKER_01 (02:26):
So you have been there and you've probably just a
stone throws away from whereyou're in was the suited.
SPEAKER_00 (02:32):
So um, it's a duplex neighborhood.
There are so many kids, and itwas very adorable to me.
They're all out playing.
SPEAKER_01 (02:41):
Perfect neighborhood, shitload of kids,
you know, all playing together.
SPEAKER_00 (02:45):
Well, um, there's this shitty lady named Susan, oh
god, uh Lorenz.
I think that's how you say it.
SPEAKER_01 (02:57):
Did not fucking belong in this neighborhood.
You don't fucking belong here,dude.
SPEAKER_00 (03:01):
Yeah, so all of them, you you could tell were
like families or single momswith a lot of with, you know,
not a lot.
Well, I mean, most of them didhave two or three kids apiece,
and all these kids hung outtogether.
They were just having a goodtime, which was because none of
them were inside gamemates.
SPEAKER_01 (03:18):
So the police officer shows up for the first
time and it's like herd of kids,dude.
I'm counting like 19 fuckingkids everywhere within the
background and all this stuff,and there she is, the bitch.
SPEAKER_00 (03:28):
Yeah, and they end up calling her the Karen.
That's like what her name isbecause there is a plot of land
by her duplex that's not ownedby her or her landlord.
It belongs to somebody else thatthese kids have permission to
play on.
SPEAKER_01 (03:44):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (03:45):
Wasn't hers, but she cannot accept that and she she
just starts calling the police.
It was like daily, it ends upbeing.
Well, there was one lady, um, AJis what they called her.
Um God, I don't remember how tosay her full name.
But if you've watched, you'vewatched it, you know, it's it's
(04:05):
AJ.
That's what she went by.
Her kids um had a fewaltercations with this woman,
and she confronted her about itbecause she's like, these are my
kids.
You can't talk to them likethat.
I've had to do that here in myneighborhood um because you
know, my kids have gotten intoit with a neighbor's kids, and
(04:27):
then they like talk sideways.
My child is is my child.
I I'm sorry that these boys arefighting, but you can't come at
a kid like this.
Come at me.
SPEAKER_01 (04:37):
Yeah, and every, you know, raising children around
other people, you're gonna getin those situations.
You're just going, you know, andand knowing how to talk to them
and give them the respect that'sdue and nothing else.
But also, I felt like eveninside the households, they
weren't portraying anythingnegative onto their kids to for
them to attack this woman likeshe's claiming.
(05:00):
Right.
You know, no, so she was justgoing after these kids, just a
pissy ass old bitch.
SPEAKER_00 (05:05):
And every single adult in the neighborhood,
whether they were a part of orwhether they were involved in
these situations or not, all Imean, they all have the same
story about this woman that sheyelled at them, she was calling
them racial slurs.
Um I didn't want that to be afucking staple, but it had to
(05:27):
fucking get in there and itpissed me right off, dude.
SPEAKER_01 (05:30):
I was so mad.
I was like, here we go, thetypical, same old shit.
And then boom, here comes evenmore of the same old typical ass
shit.
Her and her cut off fuckingsleeves, man.
I just knew it.
She had the look, she had, and Idon't, I'm not trying to like
just like No, we don't want to,we don't, we're not body shaming
people's.
I'm not, but the look, you knowwhat I'm saying?
It had the whole fucking, andyou look at people and you start
(05:53):
judging, and I'm not trying to.
SPEAKER_00 (05:55):
But I'm not when they're evil, fuck them.
Fuck them.
She's evil.
SPEAKER_01 (06:00):
But I didn't want to.
I really didn't want to judgethem, dude.
I didn't want to like be like,all right, I'm looking at this
chick and she's gonna have allthe parts, and it did.
SPEAKER_00 (06:08):
A woman that can have that same look and be the
best person on earth is abeautiful person.
Yeah, this woman is ugly on theinside, yeah.
So and it starts overflowing tothe outside.
That's how I look at it.
SPEAKER_01 (06:23):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (06:23):
I'm gonna take this off because I was trying to do
the you look like if you are agood person and you are putting
good energy into the world,you're beautiful, no matter what
your actual appearance is.
But you ugly on the inside,you're ugly everywhere.
SPEAKER_01 (06:38):
It does happen, doesn't it?
SPEAKER_00 (06:40):
I've seen some of the most beautiful
appearance-wise, you know, book,you know, book style, beautiful,
textbook beautiful.
That's what I'm looking for.
Right.
Be some of the ugliest people tome because of who they were on
the inside.
So that's just beauty is within.
Sometimes it and it's this womanwas ugly.
SPEAKER_01 (07:00):
It's really hard for us to do like video podcasting
because I look over at myselfand I'm like, I kind of look
like a shitty old dude, man.
SPEAKER_00 (07:07):
No, you don't you are a beautiful man.
SPEAKER_01 (07:09):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (07:10):
Shut up.
SPEAKER_01 (07:10):
It's just my eyes.
Because I have this weird cutthing than I do with my eyes,
you know.
Sometimes I kind of look like Ishould get some cut-off sleeves.
SPEAKER_00 (07:16):
Compliments on his appearance all the time.
SPEAKER_01 (07:19):
I think I should get some cut-off sleeves, man.
SPEAKER_00 (07:21):
I'm gonna punch you in the face.
SPEAKER_01 (07:23):
Not really pure wife beater style, but I think some
cut-off sleeves.
He's joking.
I better get some better armtattoos, I think.
SPEAKER_00 (07:31):
I'm all about that.
SPEAKER_01 (07:32):
Yeah.
I'm gonna keep your sleeves.
I like the buttons.
SPEAKER_00 (07:38):
Like uh Brad from Rage.
SPEAKER_01 (07:42):
Yeah.
Well, everybody's doing like thesolid tattoo shit, dude.
I want a solid tattoo.
I want to black out everything.
Anyhow, anyhow, dude.
SPEAKER_00 (07:50):
So this woman, everyone, she's calling the
police on these poor childrenall the time.
She's getting into altercationswith their parents.
Um, the police are gettingpissed off with her.
They're like, these kids arebeing kids.
And I am what one of them said,I would rather them be out here
playing than committing crimes.
And it was so cute.
This one little girl, she's likecombing her baby's hair, her
(08:12):
baby doll's hair.
And was doing cartwheels andshit.
It's so adorable.
SPEAKER_01 (08:16):
And I was thinking to say though, is every woman,
every man needs to watch thisdocumentary.
That way you know theseneighborhood situations, you
know?
And even the dudes that werelike, because the cop goes,
okay, the cop shows up like thesecond time.
SPEAKER_00 (08:28):
And this is probably like the fifth time.
SPEAKER_01 (08:30):
Well, probably in the video, though, is like the
second time.
And even the the guy comes outand he's like, you know, hey,
you know, we teach our kids, youknow, to be respectful, no
matter what point.
The first point is they'rethey're an elder, so you have to
respect them.
SPEAKER_00 (08:44):
The mom AJ was saying that.
She's like, no matter what shesays to you, you're still uh um
that's still an adult.
SPEAKER_01 (08:51):
Right.
You can't talk to her like that.
So their intel is like they'retr they're they're teaching
their kids to be good asspeople, you know?
And you know, she just could notfucking be happy.
This woman could not be happy,did not need any.
SPEAKER_00 (09:07):
And she lived alone, of course.
SPEAKER_01 (09:09):
Yeah.
And uh it's checking off everylittle thing.
Not not to not to put a stapleon it just because of her looks
and everything, but it checkedoff every fucking.
SPEAKER_00 (09:19):
She reminded me of that lady that uh was calling
the the cops on those folks thatwere just trying to have a
barbecue.
SPEAKER_01 (09:25):
But Karen! She was a character.
I think her name was Karen.
That's where it all started.
What?
Where did Karen start from?
Was it that one?
SPEAKER_00 (09:32):
I don't know.
Oh, but this is a Susan, andSusan is also a detective.
SPEAKER_01 (09:37):
Uh Susan Karen, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (09:39):
Sorry to all the Karen's and Susans that are good
people.
Because uh my son had a teachernamed Karen, and she was
wonderful.
SPEAKER_01 (09:45):
So it's yeah, it's not really so much of the name,
it's just you know, you're justchecking off all the you're
making more noise by justbrrrrrr.
Son of killing.
SPEAKER_00 (09:54):
Yeah, he ran to that.
SPEAKER_01 (09:56):
The only time he does something athletic is
running after an ice creamtruck, and he just got back with
some.
So no, he he's athletic, he'sdoing golf and cool stuff, plays
guitar, plays guitar.
We go to the gym too.
We have so many videos, too.
Check out our socials so you cansee him jamming and doing stuff,
you know.
SPEAKER_00 (10:11):
He ran up the rocky steps.
Oh, yeah, he did.
Twice.
SPEAKER_01 (10:15):
Hold up, I want to get a better video.
I'm like, dude, I'm dead.
Like, I didn't even go up.
I was like, fuck it.
Just to walk around there wasgood enough for me.
SPEAKER_00 (10:24):
Well, um, okay, so back to the story.
So there was um a call onenight, and this is after this
was was it about a year and ahalf of calls?
SPEAKER_01 (10:40):
If you look at if you look at the structure of
everything, a lot of the realbig incidences were like
Christmas vacations, summervacations.
When the kids were home andballs, long weekends, you know,
they were uh one uh one of themwas like a Thanksgiving or
something.
It was just like, okay, the kidsare around, they're doing stuff,
they're all together, they'reganged up, they're not a gang,
they're just a wad of kidsplaying football and shit.
(11:00):
Right there by anything crazy.
They're not hurting this womanby no means, you know, and she
just kept on.
I mean, she was she would godown and file reports and all,
and even the cops were like,dude, this is nothing illegal
that they're doing.
I'll write this down, but itdon't fucking mean anything if
it makes you happy, you know.
SPEAKER_00 (11:18):
She had even called and said that um one of the kids
had tried to put a dog in thetruck, and when they questioned,
um, either was either justanother neighbor or a person
related to that child, they werelike, they can't pick up that
dog.
That dog weighs like a hundredpounds.
Yeah.
She just she's just out to getthese kids.
(11:40):
She does not want kids to beoutside playing, and which is
what we all should be aspiringto, especially it was, I mean,
it was really cute andrefreshing to me to see kids
outside playing and just havinggood old-fashioned fun.
SPEAKER_01 (11:54):
We were calling it out because some of the police
officers were new to thesituation.
You could tell which ones hadn'tbeen there yet five times, and
the other one's like, no, shedoes this all the time.
All the time.
And then the guy's like, oh,okay.
So then they then they team, youknow, they they're they're team
kids, you know.
Then it was just like, okay,this is the bit.
She keeps doing it.
SPEAKER_00 (12:12):
One of the cops, even like on her body cam was
like, What a fucking bit.
SPEAKER_01 (12:16):
Yes, she is.
SPEAKER_00 (12:17):
And it like fucks off real quick, like throwing
it.
SPEAKER_01 (12:19):
I was like, It cuts out the bitch, but it's like,
what a fucking bit.
And it cuts off like rightthere.
I was like, Yes, yes.
But I did not know still untilthis point, what the fuck really
happened until later on, becauseshe had actually gone and got a
weapon, right?
SPEAKER_00 (12:36):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (12:37):
And I think um, because later on, like her her
truck or something got lockedinto like a mine or a quarry or
something, where or borrow pitor something where they were
digging or something.
Maybe she was out there firingthe weapon.
Yeah, she was a menace wherevershe went.
And she her truck got locked inbehind the fence, and the guy
pulled up, you know, that thatcould unlock the gate or
whatever, and she had beenramming it with her truck,
(12:58):
right?
So that was another thing.
And then they put her underarrest, right?
You have the right to remainsilent.
They did the whole thing, right?
And then she's like, I don'tunderstand what this is about, I
don't understand what this isabout.
SPEAKER_00 (13:08):
I'm like, Well, she didn't want to talk about it
until he did that.
Then she wanted to talk aboutit.
SPEAKER_01 (13:12):
Right.
Yeah.
She he's like, it's too late forthat.
I already gave you theopportunity, but now you've
you've surpassed all that.
And then again, typical typicalass white woman shit got away
with that one, right?
Oh God, Lindsay, I got so pissedoff, dude.
I got so fucking pissed off.
SPEAKER_00 (13:31):
So then it all comes to a head.
She so um apparently I wanna I II don't remember exactly the
full detail, but one of the kidsthat belonged to AJ, I think his
name was uh Israel, but theycalled him Izzy, he had left his
(13:54):
iPad and some roller skatesoutside, and somehow Karen, uh
uh Susan, she got a hold of.
And um she starts, she threw theroller skates at the kids, like
the group of kids that wereplaying football, mostly at
Izzy, and she had his iPad.
SPEAKER_01 (14:17):
She had it out for him and intentionally had it out
for him for sure.
SPEAKER_00 (14:21):
And and I mean, probably he was antagonizing
her, but I am mad at him becauseshe was a bitch.
But um, so AJ comes knocking onthe door because Susan has now
yelled, cussed, called themnames, and thrown things at her
child.
SPEAKER_01 (14:40):
Herein lies the timeline.
Lindsay's not gonna tell you allthe details on the timeline
because you have to watch this.
SPEAKER_00 (14:45):
Yeah, you have to.
SPEAKER_01 (14:46):
We're not gonna we're not gonna sell it all to
you on this pod.
SPEAKER_00 (14:51):
Um God, I was so pissed.
So she has so Susan has Susanhas made her pretty much daily
call to the police.
Two minutes later, there was acall that someone had been shot.
And that someone was AJ.
(15:15):
It shows on the body cam thesekids.
I'm gonna fucking cry.
It shows on the body cam, likethe uh ring cameras at another
neighbor's house.
These kids finding out thattheir mother's been shot.
The police come, they call thedad.
(15:37):
The dad, oh fuck, flu.
I'm gonna hold it in.
The dad finds out.
SPEAKER_01 (15:44):
Oh, don't give it all to him.
God, no.
SPEAKER_00 (15:45):
Well, everybody's watching.
SPEAKER_01 (15:47):
Everybody's watching Dr.
Robin.
SPEAKER_00 (15:51):
Uh well, we're recapping it.
SPEAKER_01 (15:53):
So we've watched it and Oh, I don't want you to tell
it to me again, though.
SPEAKER_00 (15:57):
Oh, screen with with tears in my eyes.
Okay, go ahead.
So the dad, the dad finds outthat AJ has not made it.
And I'm gonna hold it togetherhere.
And then he has to don't look atme.
And then he has to relay it tohis children.
(16:18):
And Susan is arrested andinterrogated, but she is not
held.
So this neighborhood, AJ'smother, AJ's family, AJ's
children, we we watching it arefucking pissed.
SPEAKER_01 (16:39):
We're leg wrestling the air.
SPEAKER_00 (16:41):
Because this was a stand, this was this was you
know filed under a stand yourground law because AJ was
knocking on her door.
SPEAKER_01 (16:49):
Knocking, that's it.
SPEAKER_00 (16:50):
Knocking on her door.
She wasn't in her home.
She wasn't trying to enter herhome.
She was trying to get this womanto come to the door so she could
go off on her like she hadalready done before without any
violence.
SPEAKER_01 (17:03):
Let me get let me get a drink in each hand there
from this bullshit.
SPEAKER_00 (17:06):
Without any violence.
Telling them, you know, that youcan't talk to my kids this way.
You cannot throw things at mykids.
You cannot take my kids' things.
SPEAKER_01 (17:14):
And where's the tablet?
I need my tablet, my son'stablet back.
I'm sure that was what it wasall about, right?
Susan had shot her through thedoor.
Through the door.
In the layout right there,there's like a door and then a
sliding glass door next to it.
So she was probably looking overthere.
Okay, this bitch is behind thedoor.
Let me line up my gun, right?
SPEAKER_00 (17:34):
Which is like how most a lot of duplexes are in
the back vestibule area.
You know, you got that littlething.
Because Cindy had that thelittle nook.
SPEAKER_01 (17:42):
With a privacy fence, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (17:43):
That's usually a sliding glass door and a door.
That's usually the sliding glassdoor.
SPEAKER_01 (17:46):
I feel like she was really trying to judge how she
can actually do this and getaway with it.
But there is nothing in Floridasays that you can say whatever
you want to on the other side ofthe fucking door, and I'm
pointing at our back door overhere.
But uh you can say whatever youwant to behind that door.
It's still not life threatening.
You can say whatever yourintentions are, whatever.
It's still not life threateninguntil they come into the
(18:09):
household.
And I've I've I have myconcealed weapons permanent and
everything.
I've took that class.
SPEAKER_00 (18:14):
But so Jesse and I at the at now at this point, we
are sobbing, crying, mad asfuck, sobbing some more, mad
some more because pillow overthis shit.
SPEAKER_01 (18:26):
Yeah, we were mad.
I'm already tired of shit.
Now, this is probably like damnnear 1230.
SPEAKER_00 (18:31):
No, no, no.
It we end I we started it righton time for it to end at
midnight.
SPEAKER_01 (18:36):
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_00 (18:36):
And then I gave him a palate cleanser after that.
SPEAKER_01 (18:39):
It felt like 130 because I was I was so fucking
emotional over this one.
SPEAKER_00 (18:45):
I had no idea what we were getting into because I
had seen it discussed likeeverybody needs to watch this.
Watch this, watch this.
I can't believe this fuckingbitch.
I can't believe it.
But there was like when Iwatched Unknown Collar or
Unknown Number, I don't know whyI keep wanting to say callers,
number.
When I watched Unknown Number, Iknew already what was what had
(19:09):
happened.
I did not know anything.
SPEAKER_01 (19:10):
And I'm so fucking glad you got that.
I'm so glad you got that becauseI don't get that.
So you you were in my shoes too.
We were riding that wavetogether.
Yeah.
What a shitty turd wave, dude.
SPEAKER_00 (19:21):
So after way too much time, um, and yes, Susan's
house gets vandalized becausefuck her, because she's evil and
she she committed murder and wasstill able to live in that home
free.
And was even treated like as uhlike a you know, a pro she was
put under protection.
Like she was a fucking victim.
(19:43):
Come on.
She was not at all.
And AJ was a respectful woman.
She taught her kids respect.
She did the right thing, but shehad had enough.
And she didn't do anything toSusan.
She was just knocking on a doorand Susan's like, I really
failed for my life.
And I was so scared.
SPEAKER_01 (20:02):
How bad was that when the father had to break
their had to break it the newsto him and they're just breaking
down kids, maybe we're passingthat.
SPEAKER_00 (20:11):
Okay.
Watch it if you haven't, so youcan get that fulfilling because
holy shit.
Well, I'm now I'm I'm startingto.
But so she finally getsarrested.
Yes.
But they are interrogating herbefore her actual arrest.
And when they tell her thatshe's being arrested, she
literally looks at them andsays, No, I'm not.
(20:32):
You have to watch it.
You'll be raging at this womanliterally cannot fathom.
She's crazy.
She cannot fathom in her brainthat these officers are about to
lock her up.
SPEAKER_01 (20:43):
And she's like, No, I don't want to.
Just go ahead and kill me.
SPEAKER_00 (20:46):
I don't she literally said clean.
SPEAKER_01 (20:48):
Dude, okay.
In that situation, I have tohave respect for the police
officers around there.
SPEAKER_00 (20:53):
You know, they did great police work.
SPEAKER_01 (20:56):
Maintained a professional fucking attitude
throughout that whole thing.
Not me.
Not because she's just a fuckingwhite ass fucking woman or
whatever the fuck typicalbullshit is.
SPEAKER_00 (21:05):
Because it keeps them everybody safe.
SPEAKER_01 (21:07):
I would have lost suit many a times ago, and her
ass would have never fuckingleft there after we put her in
that car the first time.
That was fucking weird, right?
And the Marion County, thesheriff's office, and all
they're like, you know, we'rewaiting to get this
investigation all they're tryingto clarify because people are
going downtown and protestingall this shit.
I would have been right with thecity.
As they should.
(21:27):
As they should be right the fuckwith Revolution, right?
Been right with them becausethat was fucked up.
And the visual like Al Sharptonshowed up and everything.
SPEAKER_00 (21:37):
That was and the proof was of a gun.
SPEAKER_01 (21:39):
The community was behind them.
SPEAKER_00 (21:40):
It was so here we go again.
SPEAKER_01 (21:44):
We are clouded, dude.
We gotta we gotta cut this off,Lindsay.
You're kidding me.
SPEAKER_00 (21:49):
We're gonna wrap this up.
And and uh this this was alittle bonus because we did
watch that.
We wanted to talk about it.
And we want you guys' opinionson it.
What what are your thoughts?
Share it.
What are your opinions?
And and if you haven't watchedit, go watch it.
It is it's horrible, but it'sit's good.
It's awareness.
Yeah, it's just you never knowwho is in your neighborhood.
SPEAKER_01 (22:12):
I think we should call these little segments like
hot on the press or something.
What should we call thesesegments?
Hot on the press or off thepress.
Hot off the press.
What should we call it?
We we gotta come up with a name.
Help us out with a name forthese little segments.
Yes, where we talk about ahorrific because this is our
second one that we've reallydone.
You know, we did the unknowncaller and now this one number.
Unknown number catfish.
SPEAKER_00 (22:32):
They don't call no more.
Well, even when I put it up,it's just numbers.
SPEAKER_01 (22:35):
I called it catfish something or other because it
was the thing they were using.
SPEAKER_00 (22:38):
She didn't call.
Nobody called.
She just texts.
That was horrible.
Jesus H.
Christ.
Jesus H.
Roosevelt Christ.
SPEAKER_01 (22:45):
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (22:45):
Um that's an outlander reference.
If you haven't watched thatshow, get that, get on that.
But um, here I'm gonna look upreally quick because I don't I
was like very upset during that,and I did not so well, let's
see.
SPEAKER_01 (23:04):
But at least they hit her with manslaughter,
right?
SPEAKER_00 (23:08):
That was good.
Hold on.
I'm gonna see what she wascharged with.
Oh, it's just telling me.
Oh, here we go.
SPEAKER_01 (23:12):
Yeah, here's a wiki on it.
She's gonna throw it at you.
Yeah, they hit her withmanslaughter in the trial.
It's loading.
SPEAKER_00 (23:25):
AJ Owens.
Uh I think it's uh, was itAjaki?
Is how you say her first name.
But she went by AJ.
I think it's Ajaki.
It's A.
We'll have I don't want to watchit again.
I don't know if I can handlethat because I want to give
respect the property.
So we're just gonna call her AJ.
That's what everybody calledher.
AJ Owens.
SPEAKER_01 (23:42):
Beautiful human beings.
Uh-huh.
The children are beautiful, thewhole neighborhood was
beautiful.
I get that.
I mean, we have to be able to dothat.
So it was manslaughter.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (23:50):
It was she was charged with I think.
Hold on.
Okay, so that's what she wascharged with.
She was found guilty ofmanslaughter with a firearm.
She was sentenced to 25 years.
SPEAKER_01 (24:01):
Yes.
And I was like, Susan, Susan.
She's not gonna make it out.
That's good.
Right.
We'll hope.
SPEAKER_00 (24:06):
But I I have to say, I mean, that's one of the best
documentaries that I've watchedbecause there's nothing you can
fabricate there.
SPEAKER_01 (24:15):
But both of them, okay, with the own none unknown
number and that one.
That one pissed me off.
Well, both.
Both of them.
SPEAKER_00 (24:22):
Well, I'm saying that one pissed me off because I
felt like that Netflix gave umwhat the fuck was her name?
Yeah, gave her a little gave hertoo much, gave her too much of a
platform to try and justify whatshe bitched.
There's no justification forcall, I mean, for torturing your
daughter and her boy.
You're you're sick.
You're sick.
(24:42):
Sick.
SPEAKER_01 (24:43):
Sick.
SPEAKER_00 (24:44):
There's no justification for that.
And I don't even feel like sheshould have been allowed to talk
on that documentary.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (24:50):
And I should have been yoked up right there and
hang out with her daughter whileshe's getting fucking, you know,
arrested.
She should have been yoked up,taken downtown, and then have
all the questions.
And then, you know, the house.
SPEAKER_00 (25:03):
Yeah, I wasn't a fan of that part.
SPEAKER_01 (25:04):
Yeah.
Well, same.
You know, same.
They both had those same kind ofass good moments.
Because Karen got to bring herass back to the house also.
So she should have beenincarcerated indefinitely from
then on.
So fuck.
We're gonna wrap it up though.
SPEAKER_00 (25:21):
That's in a definitely watch that
documentary.
It's it's gonna be a hard one.
Grab your tissues and um yourrage punching pilling.
SPEAKER_01 (25:30):
I want to hear your shade about it too, on your
side.
So send us your shade back aboutit.
SPEAKER_00 (25:35):
And if you're from that area and you're lit, tell
us are y'all okay?
Is is your community okay?
How are y'all doing?
How are y'all recovering?
Because this is literally rightas you're right down the road
from us, Marion County, Ocala.
We spend a lot of time there.
SPEAKER_01 (25:51):
And if you're hearing this in Singapore, which
is our second biggest area,that's wild.
Throw us, uh, throw us a casefrom Singapore.
We'll do one.
Yes, absolutely.
Yeah.
That's just uh I really lovethat we're reaching out all over
the globe.
SPEAKER_00 (26:04):
That's amazing.
It's kind of intimidating at thesame time, but we we'd love it.
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (26:08):
So it's like okay.
Yeah.
I like watching the stats andall the cool stuff and the
feedback.
So that thank you guys so muchfor all that.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (26:18):
But we'll see you tomorrow, Friday, which will be
Halloween.
This was a little pop-up bonusvideo.
SPEAKER_01 (26:24):
Halloween.
SPEAKER_00 (26:25):
Taco.
So we do tacos andtrick-or-treat.
If you're in the area, come ondown to Jamestown Glen.
We will be passing out candy andwatching a movie.
SPEAKER_01 (26:34):
A little projector screen.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (26:36):
And having some tacos.
This is my mic.
This I have a microphone, butthis is my other one.
SPEAKER_01 (26:41):
Yeah, you need two microphones.
I got two phones, one for themic and one for the mic.
Alright, whatever.
Microphones?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (26:49):
So cringy.
Ew.
SPEAKER_01 (26:50):
Well, well, I'm just well, you have two microphones.
That's cringy too.
In the next podcast, I swear Iwill not have sleeves.
I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
My arms are ugly.
SPEAKER_00 (27:03):
Your arms are not ugly.
Your arms are nice.
I don't like it.
SPEAKER_01 (27:09):
Mom spaghetti.
SPEAKER_00 (27:11):
Anyway, so we're gonna get recording um on our
two-partner on a little deepdive into Ed and Lorraine
Warren.
And we will see you next week.
Well, we'll see you Friday, andthen we'll see you again next
week.
SPEAKER_01 (27:23):
We will see you.
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SPEAKER_00 (27:41):
See you guys then though.
Yes, we love you so much.
Alright.
Hey! Hey! So listen, we we just finished recording
our recap on um The Devil or Wasthe Devil in Connecticut.
And we remembered that wewatched this horrific
documentary this week.
Watch it together.
Both organic reaction to it atthe same time.
(00:21):
Oh so we watched The PerfectNeighbor.
Oh I'm gonna let you start.
SPEAKER_01 (00:27):
My god.
Lindsay comes home, right?
10:30 ish.
She, you know, gets herselfready to go to bed, so about 11.
SPEAKER_00 (00:36):
No, it was uh I got home at 9.30 that night.
SPEAKER_01 (00:39):
Oh, you got off early.
So you could do this.
So, okay, about 10.30-ish,right?
I'm tired as fuck already.
SPEAKER_00 (00:44):
I'm ready to I'm ready just to Yeah, it was about
10:30 when we started.
SPEAKER_01 (00:47):
Okay.
She's like, We we need to watchthis, right?
SPEAKER_00 (00:50):
I see, so it was it was all over the place.
SPEAKER_01 (00:53):
Yeah, I didn't know shit about fuck like I always
do.
And she's like, we need to watchthis.
And it starts out, you know,it's a police officer in his car
and it's talking about likeMarion County or something.
And I think I even saidGainesville instead of O'Cala.
And I was like, I was like, waita minute, isn't this in
Gainesville?
But Gainesville's a lateralcounty in Florida, but Marion
County nonetheless.
And it was just like, okay, herewe go.
SPEAKER_00 (01:15):
Right down the road from us.
SPEAKER_01 (01:16):
There's a woman dead, and it started out, you
know, showing all this stuff,right?
And of course, then it then itjerks back and tells the story.
SPEAKER_00 (01:25):
And it's all with body body cam footage and
recorded interviews, the wholedocumentary.
It was very well made.
I don't think I've ever watcheda documentary like that.
SPEAKER_01 (01:35):
And I love how they can start putting things
together like that because youhave live shit.
We've watched a couple of themnow, and I'm loving it.
You know, it's like you can'tdeny what the fuck's really
going on.
So yeah.
Fuck me down, Lindsay.
All the all the way through it,all the way.
She can elaborate a little bitmore with it.
SPEAKER_00 (01:52):
What was the late?
SPEAKER_01 (01:52):
Okay, so I've got a couple of ways quick.
I got a book.
I was furious, dude, in themiddle of this.
I got we all have we all havereally we wanted a revolution.
SPEAKER_00 (02:07):
Oh, I can't find an overview.
Okay, so it's a neighborhood inOcala.
It's all mainly duplexes, and mybest friend, uh, she lived in an
area just like that.
I need to ask her if that wasbecause it looked very similar
to the duplexes that I used tovisit her at.
SPEAKER_01 (02:26):
So you have been there and you've probably just a
stone throws away from whereyou're in was the suited.
SPEAKER_00 (02:32):
So um, it's a duplex neighborhood.
There are so many kids, and itwas very adorable to me.
They're all out playing.
SPEAKER_01 (02:41):
Perfect neighborhood, shitload of kids,
you know, all playing together.
SPEAKER_00 (02:45):
Well, um, there's this shitty lady named Susan, oh
god, uh Lorenz.
I think that's how you say it.
SPEAKER_01 (02:57):
Did not fucking belong in this neighborhood.
You don't fucking belong here,dude.
SPEAKER_00 (03:01):
Yeah, so all of them, you you could tell were
like families or single momswith a lot of with, you know,
not a lot.
Well, I mean, most of them didhave two or three kids apiece,
and all these kids hung outtogether.
They were just having a goodtime, which was because none of
them were inside gamemates.
SPEAKER_01 (03:18):
So the police officer shows up for the first
time and it's like herd of kids,dude.
I'm counting like 19 fuckingkids everywhere within the
background and all this stuff,and there she is, the bitch.
SPEAKER_00 (03:28):
Yeah, and they end up calling her the Karen.
That's like what her name isbecause there is a plot of land
by her duplex that's not ownedby her or her landlord.
It belongs to somebody else thatthese kids have permission to
play on.
SPEAKER_01 (03:44):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (03:45):
Wasn't hers, but she cannot accept that and she she
just starts calling the police.
It was like daily, it ends upbeing.
Well, there was one lady, um, AJis what they called her.
Um God, I don't remember how tosay her full name.
But if you've watched, you'vewatched it, you know, it's it's
(04:05):
AJ.
That's what she went by.
Her kids um had a fewaltercations with this woman,
and she confronted her about itbecause she's like, these are my
kids.
You can't talk to them likethat.
I've had to do that here in myneighborhood um because you
know, my kids have gotten intoit with a neighbor's kids, and
(04:27):
then they like talk sideways.
My child is is my child.
I I'm sorry that these boys arefighting, but you can't come at
a kid like this.
Come at me.
SPEAKER_01 (04:37):
Yeah, and every, you know, raising children around
other people, you're gonna getin those situations.
You're just going, you know, andand knowing how to talk to them
and give them the respect that'sdue and nothing else.
But also, I felt like eveninside the households, they
weren't portraying anythingnegative onto their kids to for
them to attack this woman likeshe's claiming.
(05:00):
Right.
You know, no, so she was justgoing after these kids, just a
pissy ass old bitch.
SPEAKER_00 (05:05):
And every single adult in the neighborhood,
whether they were a part of orwhether they were involved in
these situations or not, all Imean, they all have the same
story about this woman that sheyelled at them, she was calling
them racial slurs.
Um I didn't want that to be afucking staple, but it had to
(05:27):
fucking get in there and itpissed me right off, dude.
SPEAKER_01 (05:30):
I was so mad.
I was like, here we go, thetypical, same old shit.
And then boom, here comes evenmore of the same old typical ass
shit.
Her and her cut off fuckingsleeves, man.
I just knew it.
She had the look, she had, and Idon't, I'm not trying to like
just like No, we don't want to,we don't, we're not body shaming
people's.
I'm not, but the look, you knowwhat I'm saying?
It had the whole fucking, andyou look at people and you start
(05:53):
judging, and I'm not trying to.
SPEAKER_00 (05:55):
But I'm not when they're evil, fuck them.
Fuck them.
She's evil.
SPEAKER_01 (06:00):
But I didn't want to.
I really didn't want to judgethem, dude.
I didn't want to like be like,all right, I'm looking at this
chick and she's gonna have allthe parts, and it did.
SPEAKER_00 (06:08):
A woman that can have that same look and be the
best person on earth is abeautiful person.
Yeah, this woman is ugly on theinside, yeah.
So and it starts overflowing tothe outside.
That's how I look at it.
SPEAKER_01 (06:23):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (06:23):
I'm gonna take this off because I was trying to do
the you look like if you are agood person and you are putting
good energy into the world,you're beautiful, no matter what
your actual appearance is.
But you ugly on the inside,you're ugly everywhere.
SPEAKER_01 (06:38):
It does happen, doesn't it?
SPEAKER_00 (06:40):
I've seen some of the most beautiful
appearance-wise, you know, book,you know, book style, beautiful,
textbook beautiful.
That's what I'm looking for.
Right.
Be some of the ugliest people tome because of who they were on
the inside.
So that's just beauty is within.
Sometimes it and it's this womanwas ugly.
SPEAKER_01 (07:00):
It's really hard for us to do like video podcasting
because I look over at myselfand I'm like, I kind of look
like a shitty old dude, man.
SPEAKER_00 (07:07):
No, you don't you are a beautiful man.
SPEAKER_01 (07:09):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (07:10):
Shut up.
SPEAKER_01 (07:10):
It's just my eyes.
Because I have this weird cutthing than I do with my eyes,
you know.
Sometimes I kind of look like Ishould get some cut-off sleeves.
SPEAKER_00 (07:16):
Compliments on his appearance all the time.
SPEAKER_01 (07:19):
I think I should get some cut-off sleeves, man.
SPEAKER_00 (07:21):
I'm gonna punch you in the face.
SPEAKER_01 (07:23):
Not really pure wife beater style, but I think some
cut-off sleeves.
He's joking.
I better get some better armtattoos, I think.
SPEAKER_00 (07:31):
I'm all about that.
SPEAKER_01 (07:32):
Yeah.
I'm gonna keep your sleeves.
I like the buttons.
SPEAKER_00 (07:38):
Like uh Brad from Rage.
SPEAKER_01 (07:42):
Yeah.
Well, everybody's doing like thesolid tattoo shit, dude.
I want a solid tattoo.
I want to black out everything.
Anyhow, anyhow, dude.
SPEAKER_00 (07:50):
So this woman, everyone, she's calling the
police on these poor childrenall the time.
She's getting into altercationswith their parents.
Um, the police are gettingpissed off with her.
They're like, these kids arebeing kids.
And I am what one of them said,I would rather them be out here
playing than committing crimes.
And it was so cute.
This one little girl, she's likecombing her baby's hair, her
(08:12):
baby doll's hair.
And was doing cartwheels andshit.
It's so adorable.
SPEAKER_01 (08:16):
And I was thinking to say though, is every woman,
every man needs to watch thisdocumentary.
That way you know theseneighborhood situations, you
know?
And even the dudes that werelike, because the cop goes,
okay, the cop shows up like thesecond time.
SPEAKER_00 (08:28):
And this is probably like the fifth time.
SPEAKER_01 (08:30):
Well, probably in the video, though, is like the
second time.
And even the the guy comes outand he's like, you know, hey,
you know, we teach our kids, youknow, to be respectful, no
matter what point.
The first point is they'rethey're an elder, so you have to
respect them.
SPEAKER_00 (08:44):
The mom AJ was saying that.
She's like, no matter what shesays to you, you're still uh um
that's still an adult.
SPEAKER_01 (08:51):
Right.
You can't talk to her like that.
So their intel is like they'retr they're they're teaching
their kids to be good asspeople, you know?
And you know, she just could notfucking be happy.
This woman could not be happy,did not need any.
SPEAKER_00 (09:07):
And she lived alone, of course.
SPEAKER_01 (09:09):
Yeah.
And uh it's checking off everylittle thing.
Not not to not to put a stapleon it just because of her looks
and everything, but it checkedoff every fucking.
SPEAKER_00 (09:19):
She reminded me of that lady that uh was calling
the the cops on those folks thatwere just trying to have a
barbecue.
SPEAKER_01 (09:25):
But Karen! She was a character.
I think her name was Karen.
That's where it all started.
What?
Where did Karen start from?
Was it that one?
SPEAKER_00 (09:32):
I don't know.
Oh, but this is a Susan, andSusan is also a detective.
SPEAKER_01 (09:37):
Uh Susan Karen, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (09:39):
Sorry to all the Karen's and Susans that are good
people.
Because uh my son had a teachernamed Karen, and she was
wonderful.
SPEAKER_01 (09:45):
So it's yeah, it's not really so much of the name,
it's just you know, you're justchecking off all the you're
making more noise by justbrrrrrr.
Son of killing.
SPEAKER_00 (09:54):
Yeah, he ran to that.
SPEAKER_01 (09:56):
The only time he does something athletic is
running after an ice creamtruck, and he just got back with
some.
So no, he he's athletic, he'sdoing golf and cool stuff, plays
guitar, plays guitar.
We go to the gym too.
We have so many videos, too.
Check out our socials so you cansee him jamming and doing stuff,
you know.
SPEAKER_00 (10:11):
He ran up the rocky steps.
Oh, yeah, he did.
Twice.
SPEAKER_01 (10:15):
Hold up, I want to get a better video.
I'm like, dude, I'm dead.
Like, I didn't even go up.
I was like, fuck it.
Just to walk around there wasgood enough for me.
SPEAKER_00 (10:24):
Well, um, okay, so back to the story.
So there was um a call onenight, and this is after this
was was it about a year and ahalf of calls?
SPEAKER_01 (10:40):
If you look at if you look at the structure of
everything, a lot of the realbig incidences were like
Christmas vacations, summervacations.
When the kids were home andballs, long weekends, you know,
they were uh one uh one of themwas like a Thanksgiving or
something.
It was just like, okay, the kidsare around, they're doing stuff,
they're all together, they'reganged up, they're not a gang,
they're just a wad of kidsplaying football and shit.
(11:00):
Right there by anything crazy.
They're not hurting this womanby no means, you know, and she
just kept on.
I mean, she was she would godown and file reports and all,
and even the cops were like,dude, this is nothing illegal
that they're doing.
I'll write this down, but itdon't fucking mean anything if
it makes you happy, you know.
SPEAKER_00 (11:18):
She had even called and said that um one of the kids
had tried to put a dog in thetruck, and when they questioned,
um, either was either justanother neighbor or a person
related to that child, they werelike, they can't pick up that
dog.
That dog weighs like a hundredpounds.
Yeah.
She just she's just out to getthese kids.
(11:40):
She does not want kids to beoutside playing, and which is
what we all should be aspiringto, especially it was, I mean,
it was really cute andrefreshing to me to see kids
outside playing and just havinggood old-fashioned fun.
SPEAKER_01 (11:54):
We were calling it out because some of the police
officers were new to thesituation.
You could tell which ones hadn'tbeen there yet five times, and
the other one's like, no, shedoes this all the time.
All the time.
And then the guy's like, oh,okay.
So then they then they team, youknow, they they're they're team
kids, you know.
Then it was just like, okay,this is the bit.
She keeps doing it.
SPEAKER_00 (12:12):
One of the cops, even like on her body cam was
like, What a fucking bit.
SPEAKER_01 (12:16):
Yes, she is.
SPEAKER_00 (12:17):
And it like fucks off real quick, like throwing
it.
SPEAKER_01 (12:19):
I was like, It cuts out the bitch, but it's like,
what a fucking bit.
And it cuts off like rightthere.
I was like, Yes, yes.
But I did not know still untilthis point, what the fuck really
happened until later on, becauseshe had actually gone and got a
weapon, right?
SPEAKER_00 (12:36):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (12:37):
And I think um, because later on, like her her
truck or something got lockedinto like a mine or a quarry or
something, where or borrow pitor something where they were
digging or something.
Maybe she was out there firingthe weapon.
Yeah, she was a menace wherevershe went.
And she her truck got locked inbehind the fence, and the guy
pulled up, you know, that thatcould unlock the gate or
whatever, and she had beenramming it with her truck,
(12:58):
right?
So that was another thing.
And then they put her underarrest, right?
You have the right to remainsilent.
They did the whole thing, right?
And then she's like, I don'tunderstand what this is about, I
don't understand what this isabout.
SPEAKER_00 (13:08):
I'm like, Well, she didn't want to talk about it
until he did that.
Then she wanted to talk aboutit.
SPEAKER_01 (13:12):
Right.
Yeah.
She he's like, it's too late forthat.
I already gave you theopportunity, but now you've
you've surpassed all that.
And then again, typical typicalass white woman shit got away
with that one, right?
Oh God, Lindsay, I got so pissedoff, dude.
I got so fucking pissed off.
SPEAKER_00 (13:31):
So then it all comes to a head.
She so um apparently I wanna I II don't remember exactly the
full detail, but one of the kidsthat belonged to AJ, I think his
name was uh Israel, but theycalled him Izzy, he had left his
(13:54):
iPad and some roller skatesoutside, and somehow Karen, uh
uh Susan, she got a hold of.
And um she starts, she threw theroller skates at the kids, like
the group of kids that wereplaying football, mostly at
Izzy, and she had his iPad.
SPEAKER_01 (14:17):
She had it out for him and intentionally had it out
for him for sure.
SPEAKER_00 (14:21):
And and I mean, probably he was antagonizing
her, but I am mad at him becauseshe was a bitch.
But um, so AJ comes knocking onthe door because Susan has now
yelled, cussed, called themnames, and thrown things at her
child.
SPEAKER_01 (14:40):
Herein lies the timeline.
Lindsay's not gonna tell you allthe details on the timeline
because you have to watch this.
SPEAKER_00 (14:45):
Yeah, you have to.
SPEAKER_01 (14:46):
We're not gonna we're not gonna sell it all to
you on this pod.
SPEAKER_00 (14:51):
Um God, I was so pissed.
So she has so Susan has Susanhas made her pretty much daily
call to the police.
Two minutes later, there was acall that someone had been shot.
And that someone was AJ.
(15:15):
It shows on the body cam thesekids.
I'm gonna fucking cry.
It shows on the body cam, likethe uh ring cameras at another
neighbor's house.
These kids finding out thattheir mother's been shot.
The police come, they call thedad.
(15:37):
The dad, oh fuck, flu.
I'm gonna hold it in.
The dad finds out.
SPEAKER_01 (15:44):
Oh, don't give it all to him.
God, no.
SPEAKER_00 (15:45):
Well, everybody's watching.
SPEAKER_01 (15:47):
Everybody's watching Dr.
Robin.
SPEAKER_00 (15:51):
Uh well, we're recapping it.
SPEAKER_01 (15:53):
So we've watched it and Oh, I don't want you to tell
it to me again, though.
SPEAKER_00 (15:57):
Oh, screen with with tears in my eyes.
Okay, go ahead.
So the dad, the dad finds outthat AJ has not made it.
And I'm gonna hold it togetherhere.
And then he has to don't look atme.
And then he has to relay it tohis children.
(16:18):
And Susan is arrested andinterrogated, but she is not
held.
So this neighborhood, AJ'smother, AJ's family, AJ's
children, we we watching it arefucking pissed.
SPEAKER_01 (16:39):
We're leg wrestling the air.
SPEAKER_00 (16:41):
Because this was a stand, this was this was you
know filed under a stand yourground law because AJ was
knocking on her door.
SPEAKER_01 (16:49):
Knocking, that's it.
SPEAKER_00 (16:50):
Knocking on her door.
She wasn't in her home.
She wasn't trying to enter herhome.
She was trying to get this womanto come to the door so she could
go off on her like she hadalready done before without any
violence.
SPEAKER_01 (17:03):
Let me get let me get a drink in each hand there
from this bullshit.
SPEAKER_00 (17:06):
Without any violence.
Telling them, you know, that youcan't talk to my kids this way.
You cannot throw things at mykids.
You cannot take my kids' things.
SPEAKER_01 (17:14):
And where's the tablet?
I need my tablet, my son'stablet back.
I'm sure that was what it wasall about, right?
Susan had shot her through thedoor.
Through the door.
In the layout right there,there's like a door and then a
sliding glass door next to it.
So she was probably looking overthere.
Okay, this bitch is behind thedoor.
Let me line up my gun, right?
SPEAKER_00 (17:34):
Which is like how most a lot of duplexes are in
the back vestibule area.
You know, you got that littlething.
Because Cindy had that thelittle nook.
SPEAKER_01 (17:42):
With a privacy fence, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (17:43):
That's usually a sliding glass door and a door.
That's usually the sliding glassdoor.
SPEAKER_01 (17:46):
I feel like she was really trying to judge how she
can actually do this and getaway with it.
But there is nothing in Floridasays that you can say whatever
you want to on the other side ofthe fucking door, and I'm
pointing at our back door overhere.
But uh you can say whatever youwant to behind that door.
It's still not life threatening.
You can say whatever yourintentions are, whatever.
It's still not life threateninguntil they come into the
(18:09):
household.
And I've I've I have myconcealed weapons permanent and
everything.
I've took that class.
SPEAKER_00 (18:14):
But so Jesse and I at the at now at this point, we
are sobbing, crying, mad asfuck, sobbing some more, mad
some more because pillow overthis shit.
SPEAKER_01 (18:26):
Yeah, we were mad.
I'm already tired of shit.
Now, this is probably like damnnear 1230.
SPEAKER_00 (18:31):
No, no, no.
It we end I we started it righton time for it to end at
midnight.
SPEAKER_01 (18:36):
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_00 (18:36):
And then I gave him a palate cleanser after that.
SPEAKER_01 (18:39):
It felt like 130 because I was I was so fucking
emotional over this one.
SPEAKER_00 (18:45):
I had no idea what we were getting into because I
had seen it discussed likeeverybody needs to watch this.
Watch this, watch this.
I can't believe this fuckingbitch.
I can't believe it.
But there was like when Iwatched Unknown Collar or
Unknown Number, I don't know whyI keep wanting to say callers,
number.
When I watched Unknown Number, Iknew already what was what had
(19:09):
happened.
I did not know anything.
SPEAKER_01 (19:10):
And I'm so fucking glad you got that.
I'm so glad you got that becauseI don't get that.
So you you were in my shoes too.
We were riding that wavetogether.
Yeah.
What a shitty turd wave, dude.
SPEAKER_00 (19:21):
So after way too much time, um, and yes, Susan's
house gets vandalized becausefuck her, because she's evil and
she she committed murder and wasstill able to live in that home
free.
And was even treated like as uhlike a you know, a pro she was
put under protection.
Like she was a fucking victim.
(19:43):
Come on.
She was not at all.
And AJ was a respectful woman.
She taught her kids respect.
She did the right thing, but shehad had enough.
And she didn't do anything toSusan.
She was just knocking on a doorand Susan's like, I really
failed for my life.
And I was so scared.
SPEAKER_01 (20:02):
How bad was that when the father had to break
their had to break it the newsto him and they're just breaking
down kids, maybe we're passingthat.
SPEAKER_00 (20:11):
Okay.
Watch it if you haven't, so youcan get that fulfilling because
holy shit.
Well, I'm now I'm I'm startingto.
But so she finally getsarrested.
Yes.
But they are interrogating herbefore her actual arrest.
And when they tell her thatshe's being arrested, she
literally looks at them andsays, No, I'm not.
(20:32):
You have to watch it.
You'll be raging at this womanliterally cannot fathom.
She's crazy.
She cannot fathom in her brainthat these officers are about to
lock her up.
SPEAKER_01 (20:43):
And she's like, No, I don't want to.
Just go ahead and kill me.
SPEAKER_00 (20:46):
I don't she literally said clean.
SPEAKER_01 (20:48):
Dude, okay.
In that situation, I have tohave respect for the police
officers around there.
SPEAKER_00 (20:53):
You know, they did great police work.
SPEAKER_01 (20:56):
Maintained a professional fucking attitude
throughout that whole thing.
Not me.
Not because she's just a fuckingwhite ass fucking woman or
whatever the fuck typicalbullshit is.
SPEAKER_00 (21:05):
Because it keeps them everybody safe.
SPEAKER_01 (21:07):
I would have lost suit many a times ago, and her
ass would have never fuckingleft there after we put her in
that car the first time.
That was fucking weird, right?
And the Marion County, thesheriff's office, and all
they're like, you know, we'rewaiting to get this
investigation all they're tryingto clarify because people are
going downtown and protestingall this shit.
I would have been right with thecity.
As they should.
(21:27):
As they should be right the fuckwith Revolution, right?
Been right with them becausethat was fucked up.
And the visual like Al Sharptonshowed up and everything.
SPEAKER_00 (21:37):
That was and the proof was of a gun.
SPEAKER_01 (21:39):
The community was behind them.
SPEAKER_00 (21:40):
It was so here we go again.
SPEAKER_01 (21:44):
We are clouded, dude.
We gotta we gotta cut this off,Lindsay.
You're kidding me.
SPEAKER_00 (21:49):
We're gonna wrap this up.
And and uh this this was alittle bonus because we did
watch that.
We wanted to talk about it.
And we want you guys' opinionson it.
What what are your thoughts?
Share it.
What are your opinions?
And and if you haven't watchedit, go watch it.
It is it's horrible, but it'sit's good.
It's awareness.
Yeah, it's just you never knowwho is in your neighborhood.
SPEAKER_01 (22:12):
I think we should call these little segments like
hot on the press or something.
What should we call thesesegments?
Hot on the press or off thepress.
Hot off the press.
What should we call it?
We we gotta come up with a name.
Help us out with a name forthese little segments.
Yes, where we talk about ahorrific because this is our
second one that we've reallydone.
You know, we did the unknowncaller and now this one number.
Unknown number catfish.
SPEAKER_00 (22:32):
They don't call no more.
Well, even when I put it up,it's just numbers.
SPEAKER_01 (22:35):
I called it catfish something or other because it
was the thing they were using.
SPEAKER_00 (22:38):
She didn't call.
Nobody called.
She just texts.
That was horrible.
Jesus H.
Christ.
Jesus H.
Roosevelt Christ.
SPEAKER_01 (22:45):
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (22:45):
Um that's an outlander reference.
If you haven't watched thatshow, get that, get on that.
But um, here I'm gonna look upreally quick because I don't I
was like very upset during that,and I did not so well, let's
see.
SPEAKER_01 (23:04):
But at least they hit her with manslaughter,
right?
SPEAKER_00 (23:08):
That was good.
Hold on.
I'm gonna see what she wascharged with.
Oh, it's just telling me.
Oh, here we go.
SPEAKER_01 (23:12):
Yeah, here's a wiki on it.
She's gonna throw it at you.
Yeah, they hit her withmanslaughter in the trial.
It's loading.
SPEAKER_00 (23:25):
AJ Owens.
Uh I think it's uh, was itAjaki?
Is how you say her first name.
But she went by AJ.
I think it's Ajaki.
It's A.
We'll have I don't want to watchit again.
I don't know if I can handlethat because I want to give
respect the property.
So we're just gonna call her AJ.
That's what everybody calledher.
AJ Owens.
SPEAKER_01 (23:42):
Beautiful human beings.
Uh-huh.
The children are beautiful, thewhole neighborhood was
beautiful.
I get that.
I mean, we have to be able to dothat.
So it was manslaughter.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (23:50):
It was she was charged with I think.
Hold on.
Okay, so that's what she wascharged with.
She was found guilty ofmanslaughter with a firearm.
She was sentenced to 25 years.
SPEAKER_01 (24:01):
Yes.
And I was like, Susan, Susan.
She's not gonna make it out.
That's good.
Right.
We'll hope.
SPEAKER_00 (24:06):
But I I have to say, I mean, that's one of the best
documentaries that I've watchedbecause there's nothing you can
fabricate there.
SPEAKER_01 (24:15):
But both of them, okay, with the own none unknown
number and that one.
That one pissed me off.
Well, both.
Both of them.
SPEAKER_00 (24:22):
Well, I'm saying that one pissed me off because I
felt like that Netflix gave umwhat the fuck was her name?
Yeah, gave her a little gave hertoo much, gave her too much of a
platform to try and justify whatshe bitched.
There's no justification forcall, I mean, for torturing your
daughter and her boy.
You're you're sick.
You're sick.
(24:42):
Sick.
SPEAKER_01 (24:43):
Sick.
SPEAKER_00 (24:44):
There's no justification for that.
And I don't even feel like sheshould have been allowed to talk
on that documentary.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (24:50):
And I should have been yoked up right there and
hang out with her daughter whileshe's getting fucking, you know,
arrested.
She should have been yoked up,taken downtown, and then have
all the questions.
And then, you know, the house.
SPEAKER_00 (25:03):
Yeah, I wasn't a fan of that part.
SPEAKER_01 (25:04):
Yeah.
Well, same.
You know, same.
They both had those same kind ofass good moments.
Because Karen got to bring herass back to the house also.
So she should have beenincarcerated indefinitely from
then on.
So fuck.
We're gonna wrap it up though.
SPEAKER_00 (25:21):
That's in a definitely watch that
documentary.
It's it's gonna be a hard one.
Grab your tissues and um yourrage punching pilling.
SPEAKER_01 (25:30):
I want to hear your shade about it too, on your
side.
So send us your shade back aboutit.
SPEAKER_00 (25:35):
And if you're from that area and you're lit, tell
us are y'all okay?
Is is your community okay?
How are y'all doing?
How are y'all recovering?
Because this is literally rightas you're right down the road
from us, Marion County, Ocala.
We spend a lot of time there.
SPEAKER_01 (25:51):
And if you're hearing this in Singapore, which
is our second biggest area,that's wild.
Throw us, uh, throw us a casefrom Singapore.
We'll do one.
Yes, absolutely.
Yeah.
That's just uh I really lovethat we're reaching out all over
the globe.
SPEAKER_00 (26:04):
That's amazing.
It's kind of intimidating at thesame time, but we we'd love it.
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (26:08):
So it's like okay.
Yeah.
I like watching the stats andall the cool stuff and the
feedback.
So that thank you guys so muchfor all that.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (26:18):
But we'll see you tomorrow, Friday, which will be
Halloween.
This was a little pop-up bonusvideo.
SPEAKER_01 (26:24):
Halloween.
SPEAKER_00 (26:25):
Taco.
So we do tacos andtrick-or-treat.
If you're in the area, come ondown to Jamestown Glen.
We will be passing out candy andwatching a movie.
SPEAKER_01 (26:34):
A little projector screen.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (26:36):
And having some tacos.
This is my mic.
This I have a microphone, butthis is my other one.
SPEAKER_01 (26:41):
Yeah, you need two microphones.
I got two phones, one for themic and one for the mic.
Alright, whatever.
Microphones?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (26:49):
So cringy.
Ew.
SPEAKER_01 (26:50):
Well, well, I'm just well, you have two microphones.
That's cringy too.
In the next podcast, I swear Iwill not have sleeves.
I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
My arms are ugly.
SPEAKER_00 (27:03):
Your arms are not ugly.
Your arms are nice.
I don't like it.
SPEAKER_01 (27:09):
Mom spaghetti.
SPEAKER_00 (27:11):
Anyway, so we're gonna get recording um on our
two-partner on a little deepdive into Ed and Lorraine
Warren.
And we will see you next week.
Well, we'll see you Friday, andthen we'll see you again next
week.
SPEAKER_01 (27:23):
We will see you.
SPEAKER_00 (27:25):
So like, comment, share, subscribe.
What am I missing?
SPEAK (27:30):
DrinkAboutSomething.sight or just type in Gen Z on
YouTube.
It's that easy.
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SPEAKER_00 (27:41):
See you guys then though.
Yes, we love you so much.
Alright.
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