August 27, 2025 • 27 mins
Aaron Goodwin from Ghost Adventures faced an unimaginable betrayal when his wife Victoria conspired with a convicted murderer against him. We dive deep into this shocking case that connects to Grant Amato, the subject of the Netflix documentary "Control Alt Desire," who murdered his entire family over his obsession with a cam girl named Sylvie.
The emotional devastation Aaron experienced comes through clearly in court footage where he breaks down describing how it feels to know someone you loved was plotting your death. We watch him continue filming Ghost Adventures episodes while completely unaware of the threat against his life. Our hearts truly go out to Aaron – nobody should ever have to endure such betrayal from someone they trusted completely.
We explore the critical distinction between having an interest in true crime content versus developing romantic feelings for actual murderers. These exist on completely different spectrums, with the latter potentially indicating serious mental health concerns. As Lindsay points out, "Having a fascination with true crime and being romantically involved with somebody that has actually murdered somebody are two different things."
We're also excited to announce our upcoming two-part deep dive into the Chris Watts case! Part one releases today with part two coming Friday. Whether you're familiar with this infamous case or hearing about it for the first time, you won't want to miss Jesse's genuine reactions as Lindsay guides him through this disturbing story.
Support Aaron Goodwin by watching Ghost Adventures and checking out his clothing line, Big Steppin.
https://agoodwincollections.com/Big-Steppin_c_8.html
Have you experienced betrayal from someone close to you? How did you overcome it? Share your thoughts with us.
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
I heard you have like the craziest story, like a
two-parter.
It's going to be a crazy week,it is.
I heard you have like thecraziest story, like a
two-parter, coming up.
I'm not ready.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
It wasn't intended to be a two-parter.
But then you were like, bitch,this is long.
And I was like, okay, well, Iseen it.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
And I was like I don't know, dude, I don't think
we need to do it this long.
I think it's a two-parter.
So there's a cool two-partercoming up, and happy Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Well, and the first part is going to be out also
today.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Oh yeah, yeah, we're going to record like a bunch
today and then just give you,give, give, give.
We're givers, we're giverswe're the givers yes, what was
that?
Lex and Terry that rememberlike?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
on rock 104 they were .
They're like they're the givers.
Yes, thank you so much.
And that's what the girls wouldsay.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
You know, what I remember the most um about them
is when they would always justhit the um on the soundboard the
alabama, alabama so like welistened to, okay, out of
gainesville weimer hall, like Iwent to that studio a couple of
times, um, lex and Terry, they,they broadcast, broadcasted out
of there.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
They had what was their buddy's name, and I can't
remember the one that talkedabout drinking baby tears.
Fuck, what was his name?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
And there was the black guy there.
They had they had the um, thecrystals eating contest and he's
the crystals eating contest.
He's like I throw it up in mymouth but I swallowed it.
You ain't going to beat me.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I got to look up his name real quick.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
He ate like 30 crystal burgers.
So if you're around our areaand you remember Rock 104.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
What was the third voice on the Lex and Terry?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
show.
Oh my God, it was like DNA,right.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, but was his name just D D.
No, that's not right.
Sarah was like the background.
Yeah, she was back.
I thought it was d right, it isd it's d.
Yeah, it was, d was in.
I'm not even gonna look at no,if it's if we're wrong, let us
know.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Let us know.
Yeah, if you listen to rock 104and lex and terry and I, I mean
of course, they were, like theywere on several radio stations.
Yeah, it's a big, but it waslike Cox Communication or
whatever.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
They were kind of like a God.
Why can't I remember his name?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Like a Bubba right.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
No, they were like Like a Bubba Loves Sponge.
No, will you please hush aminute and let me remember I'm
not thinking of Bubba LovesSponge whatsoever.
I don't know him.
You don't know Bubba.
No, I'm not thinking of BubbaLove Sponge whatsoever.
I don't know him.
Who's the guy that we listen to?
He's got the long hair.
Howard fucking Stern.
They're like the Howard Stern.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
We're moving up to that phase.
I'm just trying to get you.
Lex and Terry Gainesville,jacksonville.
Bubba Love Sponge is like TampaIconic but I don't live in
Tampa but my band played onfucking Bubba.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I Love Sponge is like Tampa, iconic and we played on
my band.
But I don't live in Tampa butmy band played on fucking Bubba.
I know that but I still don'tknow him or his personality.
He's like who are?
Speaker 1 (03:11):
these hazy farmers.
They're actually sounding thisgood and then they're like come
down to the studio and jam butwe couldn't hook it up because
my cello and bass player, he'skind of a neurologist.
I love him.
It's hard to, but bubba lovedthe shit out of us and then I
talked to him um at gatornationals just last and um I got
(03:32):
to hang out with him and uh,one of the uh race car drivers,
ron caps, which does the naparace car drag racing.
So I was like bubba love spongemy band and ron caps hanging
out.
It was fucking cool.
It was really cool.
I enjoyed that.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
And, by the way, everybody this is raw, uncut,
unfiltered, unedited drunk aboutsomething recap To the real, to
the real.
So what are you drinking rightnow?
Speaker 1 (03:58):
So so what's that?
Oh we, ok.
So we're starting.
This is coming across right now, which shouldn't be.
We're starting to learn how todo video.
Ok, that's right.
Yeah, so that just downloaded.
That's why you hear theching-a-ching.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Stay tuned to see our beautiful faces.
Yeah, so we did some testing onvideo podcasting.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
We're thinking about getting into it a little bit.
You'll see our my mean mug andLindsey's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Ass fucking mug over there.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
What am I drinking?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
You said listen here, listen here you boys.
Okay, I got my little nephewover.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
He's not little.
They're grown.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
They're full ass grown huge human beings and they
make me up some kind of I thinkit's crown apple and Dr Pepper
or something.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
It's really good.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
It's really good.
What about you over there, MissLindsay?
I've got.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
So I've got a mango white claw mixed with a peach
Vista Bay Cause you know I don'tlike the mango standalone, I
got to mix them with peach to beable to drink them, yeah.
And then I got a littlesprinkle of peach mango drink
mixer in there, just a littlesprinkle, just to give it some
extra flavor.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, you were telling me you were like you
want to get down on this.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I'm like I think my boy's done Well because you like
the mango monster mixed withyour crown apple, so I thought
you might like that flavor, butnot with Dr Pepper.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
This is no energy drink.
I'm just like no caffin righthere.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Like but we got a lot to do today.
Yes, we got a lot to do.
That's why I sprinkled someenergy in there and Lindsay's
gonna throw like some shade myway later on with a two-parter
of something that I don't knowabout nothing and we were
supposed to have a guest wholoves this case okay, who is
intrigued as intrigued in thiscase as I was, but her baby got
(05:46):
the flu so she couldn't make ittoday.
So shout out to my work, bestieslash child that I've raised I
raised her from a 17 year old.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
She's your working project.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yes, but and she's awesome she's like and I say
this all the time, I'm likebitch, if we had went to school
together like y'all would havebeen cool.
Yeah, with the clown, she, sheis raw, unfiltered, on on
everything.
Oh, there's my cheesecake.
Yeah, raw, unfiltered,unfiltered.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Speaking of making a cheesecake today, who went to
the gathering of juggalos.
Let me know.
If there's any of our listenersthat just got back from
gathering, let me know Did youget some.
Faygo, on you.
I seen dude like ICP actuallydoes put on a badass show.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I don't care, we enjoyed the one that we saw.
We didn't see this past year's,but we saw last year's.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
But they were so good that Danny put him back on
Rockville and on a bigger stage,on a bigger stage.
They deserved it.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
So if anybody went to the gathering, holler at us,
let's know he is cool, fuckinghaunted rap man, it's cool, it's
spooky you gotta be a dork likeus to love it yeah, I mean all
the way down to even.
I mean they even pick on eminemand and he, he don't mind it no
, he don't mind it, because no,and it's like one I don't get
offended about because uh, don'tfuck with my dog.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
marshall mothers okay , we're buds, they literally
enjoyed that rhetoric and Ithink that was the spark between
like okay, all these otherrappers were like gangster rap
and they're fighting back andforth and people got actually
killed over and all that crazystuff.
Right, they did that just forfun, Because have you ever heard
(07:21):
of Marshall Mathers records?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
You keep talking.
I'm going to get thischeesecake out.
Yeah, go and get the cheesecakeout.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
So have you ever heard like Eminem, like not
talking shit about everybody?
I mean, I love it and I thinkthat was really cool.
That ICP, which is nowhere nearas big, will never be, but they
have fun with their thing,right?
Yeah, it's a good show and theyhave like this whole gathering.
They just had it.
(07:49):
I've heard a lot of positive,but lindsey, one of our bands,
had something stolen from them.
That's why I'm bringing that up.
Um, yeah, yeah, yosemite andblack was up there and they had
some merch stolen from them ourmoney, yeah.
So don't be shitty.
By the way, yeah, followyosemite and black for sure.
Yeah, they're, they're reallygood.
So they made it to thegathering of juggalos.
(08:10):
They played and I just seen apost that they had some stuff
stolen from them.
That's not cool.
Don't do my bros that way.
Oh god, if you can't, yeah, youdon't need it.
So check out, but do check outall the bands and everything.
Like, I'm kind of dragging youguys along because she's, she's
getting a cheesecake over there.
So it's my turn and we'll talkabout music and all that.
(08:31):
Oh, she's back, nevermind,nevermind.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
But anyhow.
So if you're in the in the areaof um Columbia or um Alachua
County or even Duval County, Ican probably travel that way,
and you want a cheesecake or apound cake, hit me up.
I am.
You can find me on Facebook atLindsay's Cakes by the Pound,
(08:53):
and I also make cupcakes.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
She's bringing out new stuff right here.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
You haven't talked about your other little project
deals my other little sidehustle, yeah, and it's good.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Oh my God, it's good.
Everybody that has it.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I mean, I have to say I make some good shit.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yeah, you do.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
You do.
I just made one for one of myformer coworkers.
She hasn't worked with me inlike I want to say, seven or
eight years and she still gets acaramel cheesecake from me
every year for her birthday.
She just picked that up.
Her husband picked it up onThursday.
Did we talk?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
about this before.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Is it caramel or caramel?
It's caramel, that's how it'sspelled Caramel.
I keep having this argumentwith you.
You want me to look you up?
Hey, google.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
No, no, no Spell caramel.
You don't have to.
We had this argument before.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
In the Bible Mount Carmel, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
But what's real English and what's old English?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
It's spelled with two A's Caramel, caramel, it's not
Carmel.
Carmel is C-A-R-M-E-L.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I've even shared this to you a few times.
People talking about.
Well, they'll write the wordsdown and then people get
confused on how you actually saythings.
You know like moose.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Well, we're not, in ye old English, real.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
English.
We're at caramel, we'redisrespecting that damn language
, Lindsay.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
But there's a caramel and then there's a caramel.
I get it and we're, we're,we're, it's a caramel cheesecake
.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Does it make you feel more intelligent?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
And I'm making a cherry one right now for another
coworker.
You feel more intelligent andI'm making a cherry one right
now for another co-worker.
I work with a husband and wifeduo and the wife paid me to make
her husband a cherry cheesecakefor his birthday on Monday.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I don't get any of this.
She cooks all of it First ofall.
All I have to do is ask.
I know.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
All you have to do is ask and I make him a banging
ass.
German chocolate cheesecake.
Every year he actually gets twocakes.
He gets a German chocolatelayer cake and a German
chocolate cheesecake, andwhatever's left over we freeze,
and so we can literally pullthat shit out of the freezer and
enjoy it for any time of theyear.
Cause you can freeze cheesecake.
(11:06):
Pull it out, let it get to roomtip.
It is just as good as the dayyou made it.
Like we've done it.
How many times We've got afrozen uh, pumpkin marshmallow
pie in the freezer?
Right now I'm like we got toeat that before it's time for
the holidays again.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I know we need to do that tonight all right, yeah, so
take it out anyhow recapping.
Yeah, recapping, recappingjesse.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
all right, so I I told you the story of grant
amato, which led to the story ofVictoria Goodwin who, after
Grant Amato, is in prison formurdering his whole fucking
family over an addiction to acam girl model named Sylvie.
There's a documentary thatcomes out about him called
Control Alt Desire and VictoriaGoodwin, who is married to Aaron
(11:51):
Goodwin from Ghost AdventuresTV show that's been going since
2008,.
Host is Zach Bagans and AaronGoodwin is a big part of that.
I watched some of it yesterday.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
I made you watch some of it and it was like OK,
turning full circle about allthis craziness.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
He's such a good fucking goofball.
Such a little treasure littlehuman being.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I want him to come hang out.
I really hope come hang out.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Because we did cover this story while it's fresh the
Victoria Goodwin situation.
So what she did is she reachedout to Grant Amato, in prison
for killing his whole family,because she was attracted to him
.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Ew why.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Watch Control Out.
Desire him, ew, why watch?
Speaker 1 (12:34):
control out desire.
You will be like what the fuckgirl?
What?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
were you?
What, what, what can I say this?
First, though, what did you say?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
he looked like ratatouille, motherfucker and
you said that she looks like shecan't fold, fucking her chin
she doesn't have the chin, shecan't fold towels, yeah she
didn't, she has.
Why are we hacking, but at thesame time, fuck her, fuck both
of them, fuck both of them, fuckboth of them Ratatouille and
(12:58):
Camp Foltel's ass bitch.
But I mean seriously yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Like poor Aaron, Did you not want to sob with him?
I did.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
We did, yeah, we did we did.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
There's not, and I've already cried with him, so
what's the?
Speaker 1 (13:11):
court tv thing about yeah court tv of her sentencing
which, of course, she pledguilty, and she was all like I
apologize for blah, blah, blah,and the whole time I'm like fuck
you bitch.
Why did you, why did you likeaspire to hooking up with a dude
that has three life sentencesand think that this is going to
be a cool thing?
What kind of fantasy, what?
What kind of fucking thing.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
There's a mental illness there.
I'm sorry you don't reach outto a convicted murderer.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Another human being.
That is an amazing personality,like somebody that I've really
that we know of so far.
Like I said, we're going tohave to wait a couple of years
for everything to come out inthe wash, I mean.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
And I hope that we are not wrong in our perception
of Aaron Goodwin.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
I really hope he's a cool cat man.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I think he's a cool cat, genuine cat, working his
ass off trying to make, and he'snot making near as much as the
main.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I know I was pissed.
How much did I you?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
were getting kind of pissy.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
So Zach Bagin is worth $34 million, Aaron Goodwin
is worth $1.5 million.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Well, hopefully after this, that's a huge difference.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Hopefully after this maybe he'll get a little First
people that work on the sameshow.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
A little notch in the belt, Get on up to about two
and a half Well and Aaron.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
a lot of his revenue is also from his clothing line,
the Big Step in Clothing line.
Go support Aaron GoodwinBecause as far as we know right
now, he's a big step in clothingline.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
after this we're gonna buy some fucking big
stepping.
We can, because you're you're abig stepping dude, I'm a hot
stepper, yeah, hot stepper.
So yeah, we're gonna go to bigstepping clothing line.
Y'all should go there too, ifyou're big.
Whatever you knowbigsteppingcom.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I found it stepping yes I looked, he's some good
merch, I didn't know Yep, andmost of it's black and we love
black.
Well, fuck off, dude, I'm goingto hit you up.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
So when you see a message from us, we're going to
tag him personally in all that.
Right, we need to tag himpersonally in all that, have we?
We need to yes.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
We're going to buy something and we'll be like, hey
, we just did it.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
We did a little hood and Maru.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, we need to get him involved, right, that's what
I mean.
We've actually got an orderfrom.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Jennifer Turpin.
Also, I really want that witchyvibes.
No, Well, because it's a, Imean we've been saving for our
new England trip.
So, I've been responsible.
I didn't want to spend $45quite yet on the hoodie that I
want from her website, but we'regoing to do that because it
says witchy vibes I kind of wantto wear that to.
Salem.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I want to wear that hoodie when we're going to
Blackcraft and all that rememberme doing the.
Well, blackcraft we have somethings from Blackcraft With Josh
and all the guys like Josh ownsBlackcraft and I played in
front of him.
He was one of the judges for mywhen we played for Rockville
and all that.
Yeah, I need to tag Josh insome of this shit.
He would be down.
Maybe he'll, maybe I don't knowif he's around.
(16:00):
He's so busy.
All of them guys are so busy.
But anyhow, buy merch, dosupport Big step.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Everybody, aaron Goodman, everybody in all of our
stories he's got, he's had atime this year, buddy I mean a
time he, literally this yearfound out that his wife was
conspiring to kill him.
Yeah, and he has to live withthat every day.
And our me and Jesse, ourhearts go out to you, aaron,
like a hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yes, because.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
A hundred percent, god damn like 100% yes.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Because, goddamn like .
Speaker 2 (16:31):
That is not something anybody I mean most of the shit
we cover nobody should have togo through Wow, but having to
live with the fact that you knowthat the person you loved and
he says it, he's like this is aperson that I loved Came out of
nowhere, seven years loving hislife.
I mean he seemed like genuinelyhe was blindsided.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
He's a dork by all of this, yes, and the haunted
mansion.
They got fucking married.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Fuck lindsey I know what the fuck man.
I love that ride so much Ienjoyed it so much.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Thank you, I'm glad that I got you.
I got you, I had to hold silaswhich is so weird.
I got you.
It was just so great because,like silas loves horror and he
he is very creative with it.
But when we wrote the hauntedmansion.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I had to hold him like a baby.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
And the cool little ghost dancing and all that, yes,
I love it.
I mean, did you really see allthat?
I'm like look, lindsay, lookover here, look at this, focus
on this.
This is amazing.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
And the second part was the newest version of that
movie was really good withtiffany haddish and danny devito
.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Like I enjoyed it we laughed so hard.
Yes, so, but we're going tosupport you.
We're going to tag you in this.
Hopefully you listen to thewhole thing you guys support his
clothing line.
Aaron goodwin big step in watchghost adventures, that that
helps you along your way of yourshitty ass journey.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah we're going to tag you and we, like I said, our
hearts go out to you.
I mean like, literally, we werecrying watching the court TV
and we were crying watching thelatest episode over here.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
I was like Lindsay we're watching the latest
episode right now.
We're there in California.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Season 29.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
We watched it A hit was out on that man's life as he
was filming that, and everytime he popped up on the screen,
dude, we were like, oh my God,he's so cool with his little
umbrella hat, and Silas wasdigging that show too.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
He's like y'all shut up.
I want to hear him hear theghost.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Because we were crying and cutting up and we're
like we're doing our thingbecause we are goofballs.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Silas is like rewind it.
I want to hear them hear theghost voice.
And we're just, we'regoofbooting, and he, oh you
deserve so much credit and youknow I'm sad that I have not
watched that show because itseems really interesting.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yeah, Well, I have seen a lot of it, but I have not
watched the newest stuff, butI've seen him a lot yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I'm not OK as far as shows that I watch.
I'm more big into comedies andthen drama.
I'm not really big into realityTV.
I have in the past watched likea couple of like.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I watched the bachelorette and I watch this
cool because we like I'minterrupting you at this moment
because we're kind of steppingaway from her ass and we're just
talking more about him, becausehe's a cooler cat, fuck her.
Yeah, yeah, yeah he's a coolercat yeah, there's gonna be more
on her later on I know it moreon amato, more on everybody.
You know it's to be, more ofthe fucking prison system and
(19:20):
everything we talked about.
All that I just wanted to plugin.
Let's just focus from here onon him.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
We should tag Colin uh archdeacon, who made control
out desire and be like all right.
Make a new one about thisbullshit.
Make a new documentary?
Do it Looking forward Looking anew documentary?
Do it Looking forward yeah,looking forward to finding out
everything that went behind thatand they know so much.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Yeah, everybody knows so much and they just need to
do it.
They just fucking need to do itbecause there's just so fucking
much Really there are.
Is Everything, this, that, theother, every damn thing, ever a
thing?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Ever a thing, anyhow thing.
Ever a thing, ever a thing,anyhow support.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Show love, oh yeah, watch ghost adventures.
Buy something from big.
Step in, do it, yes, um, andlike, yeah, I'm gonna say it one
more time our hearts justfucking go out to you.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Aaron goodwin, I'm sorry that you had to go through
that, because it's notsomething that anything anybody
should ever have to go throughand to have to have that feeling
every day of just not feelingsafe in your life anywhere.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
It's horrible.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I mean this woman was exchanging messages with a
convicted murderer on hiswhereabouts Garbage and
describing who he would be with,which is even scarier.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
What would she say?
First, husband, fh, right, andthe text and bullshit.
Like, watch that documentary.
Really we can talk about it fordays and keep bringing up stuff
Really we can but you need towatch it y'all, y'all need to
get you guys, I'm saying y'all.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah, so Law and Crime has episodes um of the
background of everything, andthen court tv has a sentencing
hearing of where she did herbullshit apology to aaron, and
aaron literally breaks down anddescribes how he felt and how he
feels still to this day becauseit wasn't that long ago.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah, in the prosecution part.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
That's going to be something that will take a long
time for him to get over.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Her little public defender was just like.
I'm just going to tell youeverything.
She's already agreed to beguilty.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah, I mean, what can you do?
Say hey, she's ever gotten introuble before.
She was in a fascination typedisassociated relationship, and
you can tell it on her face.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
You're right, lindsay , you're all right.
She really was like trying tocome up with some Disney World,
fucking haunted, fuckingsomething going on there.
She said there's mental issuesthere, period, there's something
.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Yeah, like you just don't get into a relationship,
and I'm sorry, but anybody thatis fascinated with a murderer to
the point that you correspondwith them in a romantic way seek
help please.
And I'm just saying that that'snot normal.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
That's not normal.
And to all you people out therethat are like you feel things
that aren't physically present,you know, don't turn that into
something that's toxic.
You know, do not let thatmanifest into something that's
toxic for you.
So I'm just I'm just puttingthat out there because I don't
know, if that's a thing, maybeit is because of the ghost
(22:25):
hunters and all this stuffthat's going on spiritually,
yeah, emotionally, and you getin a situation you're trying to
build yourself up to somethingand you're trying to connect to
something, that is, you have tohave a really deep, open mind,
but at the same time, though,like you're trying to drag
something in and conjuringthings to happen, you feel it
Sometimes it's overreacted,over-exaggerated.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Being obsessed with spookiness and true crime is a
different level than beingromantically involved with
somebody that has actuallykilled their whole family,
that's kind of my little plugthat's two different.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yes, exactly, I'm just saying that's two different
spectrums right there, it's aspectrum.
Yeah, you got to, not Don't letit be toxic.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Having a fascination with true crime and being
fascinated and want to beromantic with somebody that has
actually murdered somebody istwo different things.
And want to be romantic withsomebody that has actually
murdered somebody is twodifferent things.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Not that, my fucking little analyze, breaking down
bullshit's, fucking holding anyweight, because you know, me and
Lindsay, we're both fucked uphuman beings.
We've been through some shityeah, we are.
But I think what we're puttingout here is pretty good.
It's pretty good Cobb andknowledge.
You know, it's just like ifanybody gets anything that's
good out of this, which somebodydid in Australia, miss Lindsay.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Oh, Jenny.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Hayes, we love you, oh, we love you to death.
She's so cool man and I'm solooking forward to her
documentary that's going to becoming out in the future, and I
don't really have it I didn'treally have it Good, go back,
check that out.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yes, definitely listen to our Jenny Hayes
episode.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Support her.
Support.
Check that out.
Yes, definitely.
Listen to our Jenny Hayesepisode.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Support her, support them, buy stuff and we're going
to have I'm going to coversomebody else that also suffered
from DID in the future.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Really.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Oh yeah.
So we're always reaching out toevery one of the good, the
positive victims that are builtand they got stronger and they
went through the shit.
We always reach out.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I'll reach out, Well, like we said in our last recap,
the only relationships that wewant with people in the true
crime world are survivors ofhorrific things, because our
heart goes out to you.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
I don't even want to say victims.
I want to say that theyovercome.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Overcomers Overcame something that was just
Survivors.
Overcomers, yes, but they arestill a victim in the same
aspect.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
They are, but the word victim is just harsh.
At the same time, like they've,they're strong enough, they,
they, they created their ownpower inside of them.
They're more than a victim.
They're not a victim.
They've overcame it.
They've.
You know, amazing human beingsthat went through something so
fucking tragic and now they'restill living, thriving,
surviving and doing great.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Support them, support them, support, support, support
support Because overcomingsomething horrific that happens
to you is a wonderfulaccomplishment because it can
bring you down, it changes yourlife, it can affect everything
for the rest of your life and,instead of staying in, I want to
(25:18):
say the victim mindset, whenyou overcome it and go forward
and make something positive outof something negative, that's
absolutely amazing.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Do you think, like the next song, that my band
records will be overcome?
I have a song called overcome,but now I have a new singer.
I'm going to have her write herown lyrics.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Yeah, y'all stay tuned for new stuff to come from
Shatter the Earth.
Follow them, go ahead andfollow them.
Listen to what's already outthere on the platforms.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I'm going to let her write her own lyrics.
You know a verse and a chorus,or at least a verse.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah, jesse writes great music, you guys I love it.
And music, you guys I love it.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
and I guess I'm biased, but, um, I I mean going
by other opinions.
It's good music, okay, okay.
So I need to hit the studio.
I'm gonna go Overcom and QueenVictoria, that's in our band now
.
I'm gonna let her write her ownlyrics to a verse in that oh,
her name's Victoria.
Victoria, holy shit, that'sweird.
But um, yeah, we're're.
Yeah, but she's cool.
She's a cool kind of hippielittle cat.
(26:21):
Yeah, I'm enjoying it.
She's.
She's trying hard, she'slearning the lyrics, she's
learning the technique, she'slearning how to rock and roll.
I'm enjoying it.
Dude, we're going to have agrill chill out day.
That way we can all officiallyhang and do, and we need that we
officially hang and do and weneed that.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
We need that Banned cookout.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Let's do it, it's going to happen.
It's going to happen, but we'regoing to wrap this recap up
because we are fixing to recorda two parter about Chris Watts.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
So stay tuned for that, be listening, be ready,
yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Do all the very popular case.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
I know most of my listeners probably already know
this case.
If you don't buckle up, jessedon't know, so y'all stay tuned
for that.
Yeah, do all the things, shareall the things.
Part one will be out today,Wednesday, and part two will be
out on Friday.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Download all the things.
I got a lot of work to do, sowe're going to get after it.
We're going to get after it.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Right.
I heard you have like the craziest story, like a
two-parter.
It's going to be a crazy week,it is.
I heard you have like thecraziest story, like a
two-parter, coming up.
I'm not ready.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
It wasn't intended to be a two-parter.
But then you were like, bitch,this is long.
And I was like, okay, well, Iseen it.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
And I was like I don't know, dude, I don't think
we need to do it this long.
I think it's a two-parter.
So there's a cool two-partercoming up, and happy Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Well, and the first part is going to be out also
today.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Oh yeah, yeah, we're going to record like a bunch
today and then just give you,give, give, give.
We're givers, we're giverswe're the givers yes, what was
that?
Lex and Terry that rememberlike?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
on rock 104 they were .
They're like they're the givers.
Yes, thank you so much.
And that's what the girls wouldsay.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
You know, what I remember the most um about them
is when they would always justhit the um on the soundboard the
alabama, alabama so like welistened to, okay, out of
gainesville weimer hall, like Iwent to that studio a couple of
times, um, lex and Terry, they,they broadcast, broadcasted out
of there.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
They had what was their buddy's name, and I can't
remember the one that talkedabout drinking baby tears.
Fuck, what was his name?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
And there was the black guy there.
They had they had the um, thecrystals eating contest and he's
the crystals eating contest.
He's like I throw it up in mymouth but I swallowed it.
You ain't going to beat me.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I got to look up his name real quick.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
He ate like 30 crystal burgers.
So if you're around our areaand you remember Rock 104.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
What was the third voice on the Lex and Terry?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
show.
Oh my God, it was like DNA,right.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, but was his name just D D.
No, that's not right.
Sarah was like the background.
Yeah, she was back.
I thought it was d right, it isd it's d.
Yeah, it was, d was in.
I'm not even gonna look at no,if it's if we're wrong, let us
know.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Let us know.
Yeah, if you listen to rock 104and lex and terry and I, I mean
of course, they were, like theywere on several radio stations.
Yeah, it's a big, but it waslike Cox Communication or
whatever.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
They were kind of like a God.
Why can't I remember his name?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Like a Bubba right.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
No, they were like Like a Bubba Loves Sponge.
No, will you please hush aminute and let me remember I'm
not thinking of Bubba LovesSponge whatsoever.
I don't know him.
You don't know Bubba.
No, I'm not thinking of BubbaLove Sponge whatsoever.
I don't know him.
Who's the guy that we listen to?
He's got the long hair.
Howard fucking Stern.
They're like the Howard Stern.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
We're moving up to that phase.
I'm just trying to get you.
Lex and Terry Gainesville,jacksonville.
Bubba Love Sponge is like TampaIconic but I don't live in
Tampa but my band played onfucking Bubba.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I Love Sponge is like Tampa, iconic and we played on
my band.
But I don't live in Tampa butmy band played on fucking Bubba.
I know that but I still don'tknow him or his personality.
He's like who are?
Speaker 1 (03:11):
these hazy farmers.
They're actually sounding thisgood and then they're like come
down to the studio and jam butwe couldn't hook it up because
my cello and bass player, he'skind of a neurologist.
I love him.
It's hard to, but bubba lovedthe shit out of us and then I
talked to him um at gatornationals just last and um I got
(03:32):
to hang out with him and uh,one of the uh race car drivers,
ron caps, which does the naparace car drag racing.
So I was like bubba love spongemy band and ron caps hanging
out.
It was fucking cool.
It was really cool.
I enjoyed that.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
And, by the way, everybody this is raw, uncut,
unfiltered, unedited drunk aboutsomething recap To the real, to
the real.
So what are you drinking rightnow?
Speaker 1 (03:58):
So so what's that?
Oh we, ok.
So we're starting.
This is coming across right now, which shouldn't be.
We're starting to learn how todo video.
Ok, that's right.
Yeah, so that just downloaded.
That's why you hear theching-a-ching.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Stay tuned to see our beautiful faces.
Yeah, so we did some testing onvideo podcasting.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
We're thinking about getting into it a little bit.
You'll see our my mean mug andLindsey's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Ass fucking mug over there.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
What am I drinking?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
You said listen here, listen here you boys.
Okay, I got my little nephewover.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
He's not little.
They're grown.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
They're full ass grown huge human beings and they
make me up some kind of I thinkit's crown apple and Dr Pepper
or something.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
It's really good.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
It's really good.
What about you over there, MissLindsay?
I've got.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
So I've got a mango white claw mixed with a peach
Vista Bay Cause you know I don'tlike the mango standalone, I
got to mix them with peach to beable to drink them, yeah.
And then I got a littlesprinkle of peach mango drink
mixer in there, just a littlesprinkle, just to give it some
extra flavor.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, you were telling me you were like you
want to get down on this.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I'm like I think my boy's done Well because you like
the mango monster mixed withyour crown apple, so I thought
you might like that flavor, butnot with Dr Pepper.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
This is no energy drink.
I'm just like no caffin righthere.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Like but we got a lot to do today.
Yes, we got a lot to do.
That's why I sprinkled someenergy in there and Lindsay's
gonna throw like some shade myway later on with a two-parter
of something that I don't knowabout nothing and we were
supposed to have a guest wholoves this case okay, who is
intrigued as intrigued in thiscase as I was, but her baby got
(05:46):
the flu so she couldn't make ittoday.
So shout out to my work, bestieslash child that I've raised I
raised her from a 17 year old.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
She's your working project.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yes, but and she's awesome she's like and I say
this all the time, I'm likebitch, if we had went to school
together like y'all would havebeen cool.
Yeah, with the clown, she, sheis raw, unfiltered, on on
everything.
Oh, there's my cheesecake.
Yeah, raw, unfiltered,unfiltered.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Speaking of making a cheesecake today, who went to
the gathering of juggalos.
Let me know.
If there's any of our listenersthat just got back from
gathering, let me know Did youget some.
Faygo, on you.
I seen dude like ICP actuallydoes put on a badass show.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I don't care, we enjoyed the one that we saw.
We didn't see this past year's,but we saw last year's.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
But they were so good that Danny put him back on
Rockville and on a bigger stage,on a bigger stage.
They deserved it.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
So if anybody went to the gathering, holler at us,
let's know he is cool, fuckinghaunted rap man, it's cool, it's
spooky you gotta be a dork likeus to love it yeah, I mean all
the way down to even.
I mean they even pick on eminemand and he, he don't mind it no
, he don't mind it, because no,and it's like one I don't get
offended about because uh, don'tfuck with my dog.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
marshall mothers okay , we're buds, they literally
enjoyed that rhetoric and Ithink that was the spark between
like okay, all these otherrappers were like gangster rap
and they're fighting back andforth and people got actually
killed over and all that crazystuff.
Right, they did that just forfun, Because have you ever heard
(07:21):
of Marshall Mathers records?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
You keep talking.
I'm going to get thischeesecake out.
Yeah, go and get the cheesecakeout.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
So have you ever heard like Eminem, like not
talking shit about everybody?
I mean, I love it and I thinkthat was really cool.
That ICP, which is nowhere nearas big, will never be, but they
have fun with their thing,right?
Yeah, it's a good show and theyhave like this whole gathering.
They just had it.
(07:49):
I've heard a lot of positive,but lindsey, one of our bands,
had something stolen from them.
That's why I'm bringing that up.
Um, yeah, yeah, yosemite andblack was up there and they had
some merch stolen from them ourmoney, yeah.
So don't be shitty.
By the way, yeah, followyosemite and black for sure.
Yeah, they're, they're reallygood.
So they made it to thegathering of juggalos.
(08:10):
They played and I just seen apost that they had some stuff
stolen from them.
That's not cool.
Don't do my bros that way.
Oh god, if you can't, yeah, youdon't need it.
So check out, but do check outall the bands and everything.
Like, I'm kind of dragging youguys along because she's, she's
getting a cheesecake over there.
So it's my turn and we'll talkabout music and all that.
(08:31):
Oh, she's back, nevermind,nevermind.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
But anyhow.
So if you're in the in the areaof um Columbia or um Alachua
County or even Duval County, Ican probably travel that way,
and you want a cheesecake or apound cake, hit me up.
I am.
You can find me on Facebook atLindsay's Cakes by the Pound,
(08:53):
and I also make cupcakes.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
She's bringing out new stuff right here.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
You haven't talked about your other little project
deals my other little sidehustle, yeah, and it's good.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Oh my God, it's good.
Everybody that has it.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I mean, I have to say I make some good shit.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yeah, you do.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
You do.
I just made one for one of myformer coworkers.
She hasn't worked with me inlike I want to say, seven or
eight years and she still gets acaramel cheesecake from me
every year for her birthday.
She just picked that up.
Her husband picked it up onThursday.
Did we talk?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
about this before.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Is it caramel or caramel?
It's caramel, that's how it'sspelled Caramel.
I keep having this argumentwith you.
You want me to look you up?
Hey, google.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
No, no, no Spell caramel.
You don't have to.
We had this argument before.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
In the Bible Mount Carmel, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
But what's real English and what's old English?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
It's spelled with two A's Caramel, caramel, it's not
Carmel.
Carmel is C-A-R-M-E-L.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I've even shared this to you a few times.
People talking about.
Well, they'll write the wordsdown and then people get
confused on how you actually saythings.
You know like moose.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Well, we're not, in ye old English, real.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
English.
We're at caramel, we'redisrespecting that damn language
, Lindsay.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
But there's a caramel and then there's a caramel.
I get it and we're, we're,we're, it's a caramel cheesecake
.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Does it make you feel more intelligent?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
And I'm making a cherry one right now for another
coworker.
You feel more intelligent andI'm making a cherry one right
now for another co-worker.
I work with a husband and wifeduo and the wife paid me to make
her husband a cherry cheesecakefor his birthday on Monday.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I don't get any of this.
She cooks all of it First ofall.
All I have to do is ask.
I know.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
All you have to do is ask and I make him a banging
ass.
German chocolate cheesecake.
Every year he actually gets twocakes.
He gets a German chocolatelayer cake and a German
chocolate cheesecake, andwhatever's left over we freeze,
and so we can literally pullthat shit out of the freezer and
enjoy it for any time of theyear.
Cause you can freeze cheesecake.
(11:06):
Pull it out, let it get to roomtip.
It is just as good as the dayyou made it.
Like we've done it.
How many times We've got afrozen uh, pumpkin marshmallow
pie in the freezer?
Right now I'm like we got toeat that before it's time for
the holidays again.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I know we need to do that tonight all right, yeah, so
take it out anyhow recapping.
Yeah, recapping, recappingjesse.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
all right, so I I told you the story of grant
amato, which led to the story ofVictoria Goodwin who, after
Grant Amato, is in prison formurdering his whole fucking
family over an addiction to acam girl model named Sylvie.
There's a documentary thatcomes out about him called
Control Alt Desire and VictoriaGoodwin, who is married to Aaron
(11:51):
Goodwin from Ghost AdventuresTV show that's been going since
2008,.
Host is Zach Bagans and AaronGoodwin is a big part of that.
I watched some of it yesterday.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
I made you watch some of it and it was like OK,
turning full circle about allthis craziness.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
He's such a good fucking goofball.
Such a little treasure littlehuman being.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I want him to come hang out.
I really hope come hang out.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Because we did cover this story while it's fresh the
Victoria Goodwin situation.
So what she did is she reachedout to Grant Amato, in prison
for killing his whole family,because she was attracted to him
.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Ew why.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Watch Control Out.
Desire him, ew, why watch?
Speaker 1 (12:34):
control out desire.
You will be like what the fuckgirl?
What?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
were you?
What, what, what can I say this?
First, though, what did you say?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
he looked like ratatouille, motherfucker and
you said that she looks like shecan't fold, fucking her chin
she doesn't have the chin, shecan't fold towels, yeah she
didn't, she has.
Why are we hacking, but at thesame time, fuck her, fuck both
of them, fuck both of them, fuckboth of them Ratatouille and
(12:58):
Camp Foltel's ass bitch.
But I mean seriously yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Like poor Aaron, Did you not want to sob with him?
I did.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
We did, yeah, we did we did.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
There's not, and I've already cried with him, so
what's the?
Speaker 1 (13:11):
court tv thing about yeah court tv of her sentencing
which, of course, she pledguilty, and she was all like I
apologize for blah, blah, blah,and the whole time I'm like fuck
you bitch.
Why did you, why did you likeaspire to hooking up with a dude
that has three life sentencesand think that this is going to
be a cool thing?
What kind of fantasy, what?
What kind of fucking thing.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
There's a mental illness there.
I'm sorry you don't reach outto a convicted murderer.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Another human being.
That is an amazing personality,like somebody that I've really
that we know of so far.
Like I said, we're going tohave to wait a couple of years
for everything to come out inthe wash, I mean.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
And I hope that we are not wrong in our perception
of Aaron Goodwin.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
I really hope he's a cool cat man.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I think he's a cool cat, genuine cat, working his
ass off trying to make, and he'snot making near as much as the
main.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I know I was pissed.
How much did I you?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
were getting kind of pissy.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
So Zach Bagin is worth $34 million, Aaron Goodwin
is worth $1.5 million.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Well, hopefully after this, that's a huge difference.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Hopefully after this maybe he'll get a little First
people that work on the sameshow.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
A little notch in the belt, Get on up to about two
and a half Well and Aaron.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
a lot of his revenue is also from his clothing line,
the Big Step in Clothing line.
Go support Aaron GoodwinBecause as far as we know right
now, he's a big step in clothingline.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
after this we're gonna buy some fucking big
stepping.
We can, because you're you're abig stepping dude, I'm a hot
stepper, yeah, hot stepper.
So yeah, we're gonna go to bigstepping clothing line.
Y'all should go there too, ifyou're big.
Whatever you knowbigsteppingcom.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I found it stepping yes I looked, he's some good
merch, I didn't know Yep, andmost of it's black and we love
black.
Well, fuck off, dude, I'm goingto hit you up.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
So when you see a message from us, we're going to
tag him personally in all that.
Right, we need to tag himpersonally in all that, have we?
We need to yes.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
We're going to buy something and we'll be like, hey
, we just did it.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
We did a little hood and Maru.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, we need to get him involved, right, that's what
I mean.
We've actually got an orderfrom.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Jennifer Turpin.
Also, I really want that witchyvibes.
No, Well, because it's a, Imean we've been saving for our
new England trip.
So, I've been responsible.
I didn't want to spend $45quite yet on the hoodie that I
want from her website, but we'regoing to do that because it
says witchy vibes I kind of wantto wear that to.
Salem.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I want to wear that hoodie when we're going to
Blackcraft and all that rememberme doing the.
Well, blackcraft we have somethings from Blackcraft With Josh
and all the guys like Josh ownsBlackcraft and I played in
front of him.
He was one of the judges for mywhen we played for Rockville
and all that.
Yeah, I need to tag Josh insome of this shit.
He would be down.
Maybe he'll, maybe I don't knowif he's around.
(16:00):
He's so busy.
All of them guys are so busy.
But anyhow, buy merch, dosupport Big step.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Everybody, aaron Goodman, everybody in all of our
stories he's got, he's had atime this year, buddy I mean a
time he, literally this yearfound out that his wife was
conspiring to kill him.
Yeah, and he has to live withthat every day.
And our me and Jesse, ourhearts go out to you, aaron,
like a hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yes, because.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
A hundred percent, god damn like 100% yes.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Because, goddamn like .
Speaker 2 (16:31):
That is not something anybody I mean most of the shit
we cover nobody should have togo through Wow, but having to
live with the fact that you knowthat the person you loved and
he says it, he's like this is aperson that I loved Came out of
nowhere, seven years loving hislife.
I mean he seemed like genuinelyhe was blindsided.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
He's a dork by all of this, yes, and the haunted
mansion.
They got fucking married.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Fuck lindsey I know what the fuck man.
I love that ride so much Ienjoyed it so much.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Thank you, I'm glad that I got you.
I got you, I had to hold silaswhich is so weird.
I got you.
It was just so great because,like silas loves horror and he
he is very creative with it.
But when we wrote the hauntedmansion.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I had to hold him like a baby.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
And the cool little ghost dancing and all that, yes,
I love it.
I mean, did you really see allthat?
I'm like look, lindsay, lookover here, look at this, focus
on this.
This is amazing.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
And the second part was the newest version of that
movie was really good withtiffany haddish and danny devito
.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Like I enjoyed it we laughed so hard.
Yes, so, but we're going tosupport you.
We're going to tag you in this.
Hopefully you listen to thewhole thing you guys support his
clothing line.
Aaron goodwin big step in watchghost adventures, that that
helps you along your way of yourshitty ass journey.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah we're going to tag you and we, like I said, our
hearts go out to you.
I mean like, literally, we werecrying watching the court TV
and we were crying watching thelatest episode over here.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
I was like Lindsay we're watching the latest
episode right now.
We're there in California.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Season 29.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
We watched it A hit was out on that man's life as he
was filming that, and everytime he popped up on the screen,
dude, we were like, oh my God,he's so cool with his little
umbrella hat, and Silas wasdigging that show too.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
He's like y'all shut up.
I want to hear him hear theghost.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Because we were crying and cutting up and we're
like we're doing our thingbecause we are goofballs.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Silas is like rewind it.
I want to hear them hear theghost voice.
And we're just, we'regoofbooting, and he, oh you
deserve so much credit and youknow I'm sad that I have not
watched that show because itseems really interesting.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yeah, Well, I have seen a lot of it, but I have not
watched the newest stuff, butI've seen him a lot yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I'm not OK as far as shows that I watch.
I'm more big into comedies andthen drama.
I'm not really big into realityTV.
I have in the past watched likea couple of like.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I watched the bachelorette and I watch this
cool because we like I'minterrupting you at this moment
because we're kind of steppingaway from her ass and we're just
talking more about him, becausehe's a cooler cat, fuck her.
Yeah, yeah, yeah he's a coolercat yeah, there's gonna be more
on her later on I know it moreon amato, more on everybody.
You know it's to be, more ofthe fucking prison system and
(19:20):
everything we talked about.
All that I just wanted to plugin.
Let's just focus from here onon him.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
We should tag Colin uh archdeacon, who made control
out desire and be like all right.
Make a new one about thisbullshit.
Make a new documentary?
Do it Looking forward Looking anew documentary?
Do it Looking forward yeah,looking forward to finding out
everything that went behind thatand they know so much.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Yeah, everybody knows so much and they just need to
do it.
They just fucking need to do itbecause there's just so fucking
much Really there are.
Is Everything, this, that, theother, every damn thing, ever a
thing?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Ever a thing, anyhow thing.
Ever a thing, ever a thing,anyhow support.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Show love, oh yeah, watch ghost adventures.
Buy something from big.
Step in, do it, yes, um, andlike, yeah, I'm gonna say it one
more time our hearts justfucking go out to you.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Aaron goodwin, I'm sorry that you had to go through
that, because it's notsomething that anything anybody
should ever have to go throughand to have to have that feeling
every day of just not feelingsafe in your life anywhere.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
It's horrible.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I mean this woman was exchanging messages with a
convicted murderer on hiswhereabouts Garbage and
describing who he would be with,which is even scarier.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
What would she say?
First, husband, fh, right, andthe text and bullshit.
Like, watch that documentary.
Really we can talk about it fordays and keep bringing up stuff
Really we can but you need towatch it y'all, y'all need to
get you guys, I'm saying y'all.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah, so Law and Crime has episodes um of the
background of everything, andthen court tv has a sentencing
hearing of where she did herbullshit apology to aaron, and
aaron literally breaks down anddescribes how he felt and how he
feels still to this day becauseit wasn't that long ago.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah, in the prosecution part.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
That's going to be something that will take a long
time for him to get over.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Her little public defender was just like.
I'm just going to tell youeverything.
She's already agreed to beguilty.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah, I mean, what can you do?
Say hey, she's ever gotten introuble before.
She was in a fascination typedisassociated relationship, and
you can tell it on her face.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
You're right, lindsay , you're all right.
She really was like trying tocome up with some Disney World,
fucking haunted, fuckingsomething going on there.
She said there's mental issuesthere, period, there's something
.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Yeah, like you just don't get into a relationship,
and I'm sorry, but anybody thatis fascinated with a murderer to
the point that you correspondwith them in a romantic way seek
help please.
And I'm just saying that that'snot normal.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
That's not normal.
And to all you people out therethat are like you feel things
that aren't physically present,you know, don't turn that into
something that's toxic.
You know, do not let thatmanifest into something that's
toxic for you.
So I'm just I'm just puttingthat out there because I don't
know, if that's a thing, maybeit is because of the ghost
(22:25):
hunters and all this stuffthat's going on spiritually,
yeah, emotionally, and you getin a situation you're trying to
build yourself up to somethingand you're trying to connect to
something, that is, you have tohave a really deep, open mind,
but at the same time, though,like you're trying to drag
something in and conjuringthings to happen, you feel it
Sometimes it's overreacted,over-exaggerated.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Being obsessed with spookiness and true crime is a
different level than beingromantically involved with
somebody that has actuallykilled their whole family,
that's kind of my little plugthat's two different.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yes, exactly, I'm just saying that's two different
spectrums right there, it's aspectrum.
Yeah, you got to, not Don't letit be toxic.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Having a fascination with true crime and being
fascinated and want to beromantic with somebody that has
actually murdered somebody istwo different things.
And want to be romantic withsomebody that has actually
murdered somebody is twodifferent things.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Not that, my fucking little analyze, breaking down
bullshit's, fucking holding anyweight, because you know, me and
Lindsay, we're both fucked uphuman beings.
We've been through some shityeah, we are.
But I think what we're puttingout here is pretty good.
It's pretty good Cobb andknowledge.
You know, it's just like ifanybody gets anything that's
good out of this, which somebodydid in Australia, miss Lindsay.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Oh, Jenny.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Hayes, we love you, oh, we love you to death.
She's so cool man and I'm solooking forward to her
documentary that's going to becoming out in the future, and I
don't really have it I didn'treally have it Good, go back,
check that out.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yes, definitely listen to our Jenny Hayes
episode.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Support her.
Support.
Check that out.
Yes, definitely.
Listen to our Jenny Hayesepisode.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Support her, support them, buy stuff and we're going
to have I'm going to coversomebody else that also suffered
from DID in the future.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Really.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Oh yeah.
So we're always reaching out toevery one of the good, the
positive victims that are builtand they got stronger and they
went through the shit.
We always reach out.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I'll reach out, Well, like we said in our last recap,
the only relationships that wewant with people in the true
crime world are survivors ofhorrific things, because our
heart goes out to you.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
I don't even want to say victims.
I want to say that theyovercome.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Overcomers Overcame something that was just
Survivors.
Overcomers, yes, but they arestill a victim in the same
aspect.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
They are, but the word victim is just harsh.
At the same time, like they've,they're strong enough, they,
they, they created their ownpower inside of them.
They're more than a victim.
They're not a victim.
They've overcame it.
They've.
You know, amazing human beingsthat went through something so
fucking tragic and now they'restill living, thriving,
surviving and doing great.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Support them, support them, support, support, support
support Because overcomingsomething horrific that happens
to you is a wonderfulaccomplishment because it can
bring you down, it changes yourlife, it can affect everything
for the rest of your life and,instead of staying in, I want to
(25:18):
say the victim mindset, whenyou overcome it and go forward
and make something positive outof something negative, that's
absolutely amazing.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Do you think, like the next song, that my band
records will be overcome?
I have a song called overcome,but now I have a new singer.
I'm going to have her write herown lyrics.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Yeah, y'all stay tuned for new stuff to come from
Shatter the Earth.
Follow them, go ahead andfollow them.
Listen to what's already outthere on the platforms.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I'm going to let her write her own lyrics.
You know a verse and a chorus,or at least a verse.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah, jesse writes great music, you guys I love it.
And music, you guys I love it.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
and I guess I'm biased, but, um, I I mean going
by other opinions.
It's good music, okay, okay.
So I need to hit the studio.
I'm gonna go Overcom and QueenVictoria, that's in our band now
.
I'm gonna let her write her ownlyrics to a verse in that oh,
her name's Victoria.
Victoria, holy shit, that'sweird.
But um, yeah, we're're.
Yeah, but she's cool.
She's a cool kind of hippielittle cat.
(26:21):
Yeah, I'm enjoying it.
She's.
She's trying hard, she'slearning the lyrics, she's
learning the technique, she'slearning how to rock and roll.
I'm enjoying it.
Dude, we're going to have agrill chill out day.
That way we can all officiallyhang and do, and we need that we
officially hang and do and weneed that.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
We need that Banned cookout.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Let's do it, it's going to happen.
It's going to happen, but we'regoing to wrap this recap up
because we are fixing to recorda two parter about Chris Watts.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
So stay tuned for that, be listening, be ready,
yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Do all the very popular case.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
I know most of my listeners probably already know
this case.
If you don't buckle up, jessedon't know, so y'all stay tuned
for that.
Yeah, do all the things, shareall the things.
Part one will be out today,Wednesday, and part two will be
out on Friday.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Download all the things.
I got a lot of work to do, sowe're going to get after it.
We're going to get after it.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Right.
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