Episode 32: The Dyatlov Pass Incident - A Cold Case in the Ural Mountains - Drinking Our Way Through History

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Speaker 1 (00:22):
So, ladies and gentlemen, if you would have
followed through the Instagramaccount there and the face space
as well, I did note that wewere going to be a little bit
delayed because we were tryingto record in mom's basement for
the holidays, because we wereout of town and, honestly, the
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Speaker 2 (00:58):
I want the strongest NA beer I could possibly ever
consume.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
So, ladies and gentlemen, this is going to come
out on the first of the yearand then we are going to be back
, just as, like a heads up intothe episode, we're going to be
back towards the end of Februarybecause we're I'm going to be
out of town.
So, anyways, ladies andgentlemen, welcome to drinking
our way through history, wherewe cover the legendary people,
places, spectacles and eventsthat history has to offer, while

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enjoying a thick pour ofwhiskey.
I am Cooper and I am Ian.
In today's episode, we will bediscussing the Diet Love Pass
Incident.
In January 1959, a team ofyoung hikers led by Igor Diet
Love began a fatal expeditiondeep into the Ural Mountains.

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Ten days into their journey,they reached the peak known to
the locals as the Dead Mountain.
That's so scary.
The Dead Mountain, they're likehey, yeah, yeah, that's the one
we want.
Yeah, that's where I'd go.
But in the dead of night, forunknown reasons, the hikers cut
their way out of their tent andfled down the mountain half

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dressed, wearing nothing to keepthem alive for a duration in
the extreme winter conditions.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Just going out for a little naked wakey bake.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Just see, that's all it was Just going out for a
little naked wakey bake.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
That's all they wanted to do.
You know, just you're like youknow what?

Speaker 1 (02:22):
There's never a better time, man.
It's because we smoke.
A pole in our underwear bro Outin negative 30 degree
temperatures.
Yeah, I love that.
It's super windy too, right?
Yeah, absolutely Awesome, thiswill definitely work.
Yes, weeks after they were dueto report back, search parties
were sent out to find the nowmissing hiking party.
The hikers were eventuallyfound more than a mile away from

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their tents oh, just one tent,not tents, sorry.
Singular, singular tent.
One of them sufferedinexplicable injuries, ranging
from cuts and bruises tofractured skulls, broken ribs,
even missing eyes and a missingtongue, mmm.
The Soviet government hurriedthe investigation efforts and

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sealed the record, stating thatthe hikers had only frozen to
death, fanning the flame forconspiracies to arise.
Numerous conspiracy theorieshave swirled around this
incident, ranging from UFOabductions to encounters with
the Russian Yeti, bizarreweather anomalies, outright
murder and even allegations of acover-up by the Soviet

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government.
In this episode, we'll diveinto the sequence of events that
led to that fateful night,examining the aftermath in
detail in an attempt to piecetogether a logical conclusion to
one of Russia's most enduringmysteries.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
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You know what else?
Is pretty logical, cooper.
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Speaker 1 (03:50):
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Speaker 1 (04:17):
So there are a multitude of sources out there
that talk about this.
Now we went with the newestdocumentary, 2021, an unknown
compelling force, and thendilatovpasscom that shit is your
Bible on this incident.
Mmm, if you want to knowanything and everything about

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this, they have it, from whatthe fuck happened back in the
day to what these people aredoing now.
So it's very impressive.
A lot of details, lots ofpictures.
If you want to go there and seeall the gruesome fucking
details, check out.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Love the pictures yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah, go check out dietlovpasscom.
Mmm, mmm.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Are you excited to get into this frozen mystery?
I'm Stokeronid man.
It's going to be great.
I'm Stokeronid Cooper.
Where do all things begin?

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Dawn of Time, the beginning.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Okay, yep, 1959.
I go, dietlov, a 20 gore.
In 1959, igor Dyatlov, a23-year-old student studying
radio engineering at the EuroPolytechnical Institute,
embarked on a challengingexpedition with a team of nine
seasoned hikers.
These individuals weren't justcasual adventurers.

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They were highly skilled,aiming to achieve a top tier
grade three certification, whichwas a significant feat in the
Soviet Union, and it was earnedby traversing grueling 190 miles
collectively.
It's actually at the time wastheir top tier certification for
hikers.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
And it's not just like they went when we say
grueling 190 miles, liketrekking that is, it's not like
just going through a hike oneday rushing wilderness blizzards
it's like you are doing someshit, you are hiking some
extreme shit in extreme weather,and so yeah, these guys were
all extremely like well-versed.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
They knew what they were fucking doing.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
They really did, yeah , and these are not amateur.
This is not amateur hour.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
No, no.
Their meticulously plannedroute, greenlit by the Sferdloft
City Sport Committee, was anambitious trek leading towards
the imposing Otorten Mountain inthe Northern, in the Northern
Euro Mountain Range.
The group opted for thiscategory three expedition to be
in February.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Because fucking, why not Of course.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Of course that meant that they wouldn't be
confronting the harshest winterconditions to test both their
physical endurance and survivalskills.
The harshest winter conditionsin fucking Russia, in.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Russia?
Yeah, and this is so.
If you look at Russia on a map,it's on the western side.
It's kind of like southeast ofMoscow in those mountains.
So just Google Euro Mountainsand you'll see that place.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yes, yes, there it is .

Speaker 1 (07:01):
I was like, I swear to God, I had to burp.
I really thought you had toburp.
No, no, no, I had to burp.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
I had to burp.
That's that that, na StellaArtois.
Now, on January 23rd 1959, theDietlov Group received their
Root Book detailing their coursealong what was called the
Number Five Trail.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, now it's not that plain and simple of a name,
no.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Without hesitation, they departed from Sferdloft
City on the same day, fullygeared up for the expedition,
ready for the challenges ahead.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
They just weren't ready for the challenge of death
.
No, no, no, death comes later.
This is oh man.
I mean they were just so hungryand eager.
So Ian and I come from Coloradoand we know these kind of
people.
Yeah, I've met some people thatare just all about those
they're so ready to just be inthe extremities of shit.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, the extremities of shit, not just in the shit.
The extremities of the shit,yes.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Now, on this chilling morning of January 25th 1959,
after a train journey, the groupreached Ivdel, a town nestled
in the heart of the northernSferdloft-Ablast province.
From there, they hitched a rideon a truck heading to Vis High,
a remote village known as thefinal inhabited spot to the

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north.
Arriving in Vis High, they bunkdown for the night, stocking up
on loaves of bread to fueltheir energy for the impeding
hike Impending.
Thank you, I don't know what Iwould do without you, you said
impeding.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
I mean I guess it was a pretty impeding hike.
It impeded their fucking livesit did.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
So you know what I'm not wrong.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
I am right in my dyslexia?

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yes, all right yes.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
In my lack of pronunciations, dyslexia.
Thank you, let's stay in it.
The next day, january 27th,marked the beginning of their
journey towards Mount Gora orTorton.
They had one of the locals atthe settlement go with them to
the next settlement so that hecould use his horse to trek

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their baggage while the groupski-hiked for seven fucking
hours to the next pit stop.
All in a day's work.
This next pit stop, by the way,where they just decided to camp
out, was the Russian Gulags,nice, one of the like.
It had just been abandoned,like seven years prior.
Where are my war zone playersat?
Y'all know the Gulags, you knowthe Gulags.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
They're not that fun.
That's not how they say it.
They're not fun, they're prettybad places.
Pretty bad places.
Yeah, I mean, if you're a guard, it's better Not great, but
it's better.
It's pretty rough.
You're not the one gettingtortured, you're just really
really cold.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Yeah, they were probably hungry.
So there's a story that I heardabout the Russian guards from a
Gulag and what they would do isa logging thing is.
So they would be at thisextreme steep slope and they
would be chopping these treesdown and what they would do is
they would make bets on when thetree starts falling down the
hill and who's going to die, andthey would pick on which one

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the tree would take out.
And that was their fun for theday.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Well, I mean, you don't have TV, so Just fucking
kill these prisoners.
And you guys say televisionleads to violence.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Violence has been around.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Violence led to television.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Honestly, yeah, you know what?
Yeah, maybe we just made abreakthrough.
We do.
Yeah, that is a goodbreakthrough More violent video
games.
Yeah, I think, because thisshit was fucked up.
Yeah, and we're like Rape andNankin, unit 731, and we will
talk about the Gulags at somepoint.
We're going to be preaching,you know.
Gta 6 just can't come soonenough, right, right.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
It would have been nicer if they had some you know
civilians to shoot up in a videogame.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yeah, you know you got to get the release out
somehow.
You know, Unfortunately, butalso fortunately for one of the
expedition people, Yuri Yudin.
He had gotten like sick and theinjuries that he had previously
had started getting him gettingto him due to the cold Joint
pain, back pain, yeah, and itjust was flaring up.
It just was not great and healso had an ankle injury.

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That was just not doing wellfor him, so he had to bow out
for the rest of the trek.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Lucky man.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Unknowingly lucky.
Now there was an emotionalgoodbye from him to the group,
because all these people arepsycho and they're like I can't
wait to freeze my nut sack off.
Yes, it's going to be so fun.
So he was still excited for therest of the group to finish the
trip.
Now funny thing or not reallyfunny, but cool thing is that
Yuri actually died in 2013 atthe age of 75, but he never knew
still what like happened trulyto these his expedition friends,

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and he was also buried at thecemetery where all his friends
were buried for this incident.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
It came full circle.
It came full circle.
All his deformed, mutilatedfriends.
So sad.
Now the group of nine nowcontinued on and past the frozen
Las Vegas River, stopping forthe night where they spent their
first night in their tent.
They started a fire, made somedinner and sang some heartfelt

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songs and talked about love toshoot and shoot in the shit with
their friends.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
It's the best time I mean it's like anytime you're
going camping like you end uptalking about real shit, you
know, like you get into real,actual conversations.
It's totally get it, yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
You ever?

Speaker 1 (12:17):
like have an experience or anything, when you
were like in scouts, like youknow, you all sitting around the
campfire actually shooting thelike the real shit.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
No, because so by the time I got into scouts they
weren't as cool as when you werein scouts.
You went to scouts with apretty cool group of kids and
the troop was pretty cool.
It was cool when I went.
They were like man, you know,earning another merit.
Man, you're talking aboutmarijuana.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
I'm like yeah fuck you.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
You smoke up, motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Marijuana ran a badge on the way.
I had one guy in the venturepatrol that's like the teenage
group of the Boy Scouts.
He would walk around with thisWalmart shirt.
It was a smiley face and it hada bullet hole right in the
front and the night at the shirtwas the back end of the smiley
face Was another bullet hole.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah, but it was like exploded out, like it was a
hollow point, bullet, cool.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yeah, that was pretty dope.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
That is pretty cool.
Yeah, I wouldn't have gottenaway with that.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
No, no, and his dad was the troop master.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Oh, that's great, no wonder you had so much fun.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
It was a blast.
Yeah, those guys are great.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
As they camped in the indigenous Manzi territory that
night, they recorded a groupdiary entry.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
January 30th 1959.
And, by the way, I'm not goingto do this in a Russian accent
because it keeps slipping inScottish when I tried it.
Yeah, yeah, I'll slip into likeSlovakian or like whatever
Dracula is.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
It's like a swamp with suckered blood.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
It's their neighbors, yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah, close enough.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Temperature tonight negative 26 Celsius, which is
about negative 15 Fahrenheit.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
They clarified that in the journal entry.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
The forest gradually thins and trees get smaller.
You can feel the altitude.
There's a strong West wind.
It blows the snow off the cedarand pine trees, creating the
impression of snowfall.
As usual, we quickly start afire and pitch the tent on some
fur bridges.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Some fur bridges.
You pitched the tent on somefur bridges.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, did you Koop, yeah you pitched a tent with
those fur bridges over there.
Fur bridges are my favorite.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Alright, they are fine.
There's the Scottish.
There's the Scottish.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Pitch the tent on some fur branches.
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
It's just funny that you're pitching the tent and
then the bridges, because youknow what pitching a tent is.
Pitching a tent, any bridges?

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Boner hey man, there are two girls on this trip.
Oh yeah, well, they couldn'tpitch a tent, they don't have a
big penis.
At first there's two girls andeight guys and then now it's two
girls and seven guys.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
By the way, because you're a left.
Yep, yep, yep.
This is the sequel to two girls, one cup.
Sorry, I'm trying to finishthis fucking entry here.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Sorry, I'm done bantering I'm done.
Okay, back to setting the move.
We are warmed by the fire andgo to sleep.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
That's it.
That was beautiful.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Really, really good, Honestly flawless execution.
Now, while the hikers weretraveling, they created their
own little newspaper kind ofthing for fun called the Evening
Oortortan.
In this newspaper there was oneheadline and one photograph
that would create conspiracytheories across the world the
Russian Yeti, the headline readsScience.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
In recent years, there has been a heated debate
about the existence of Yeti.
According to recent reports,yeti lives in the northern Urals
near Oortortan Mountain.
So fun, I know, I know.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Adding to this fun little headline, they had taken
a few out of focus photos of ablurred man like figure in the
trees.
That does resemble what we allhave come to know as the Yeti or
, you know, american Bigfoot.
But if you take off theconspiracy tinfoil hat you can
clearly see that this is just abunch of young kids simply
having a good time.
The pictures even seem to beintentionally out of focus to
make it look like a real Yeti.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, it's a lot of fun.
I mean, you can tell, becausethe photos that they did take
were really good, right, andthen there's just like this one
out of focus, one to be.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Of course they're making fun of the whole, like
yeah, out of focus photo ofaliens or of Yeti or of Bigfoot,
you know exactly.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
They're just kids having fun.
I mean, all these kids are intheir early 20s.
And then one of the other Uries, I think is, I think, one of
the early Uries.
He's in his late 30s, he taggedalong and but he fit in
perfectly with this group.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Now, what does that?

Speaker 1 (16:34):
say about him.
If you want to know more aboutBigfoot, go check out our
previous episode on the Bigfootlore we do have one of those.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Now they had another headline on this humorous
newspaper titled Philosophical.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Seminar on the topic of love and tourism Takes place
daily on the 10 premises.
In parentheses, central Hall,lectures are given by Dr
Thielbieu and postdoctorate oflove science Dubinina.
Oh poor Dubinina, I knowDubinina does not.
Oh man, it's rough yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
On January 31st, one day before the incident, Igor
Dyatlov wrote the last diaryentry anyone would leave in the
group.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Today the weather is a bit worse, with the wind and
snow.
Until now we walked along aMonty trail which was crossed by
a deer hunter not long ago.
The hunter didn't follow thebeaten trail and we are now
following in his steps.
Walking is especially hardtoday.
We can't see the trail and haveto advance slowly, tired and
exhausted.
We started the preparations forthe night.

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We had supper in the warmth ofthe tent.
It is hard to imagine such acomfort somewhere on the drudge,
with the piercing wind,hundreds of kilometers away from
human settlement.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
The following morning the group left a cache of food
and equipment at this camp fortheir return journey to Mount
Orton.
But after only traveling a mileand a half, the fierce weather
conditions forced them to makecamp on Mount Kyolet Siakar, the
dead mountain, and beforemorning all nine hikers would be

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dead.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
That's so scary and it's like ugh, it's just
terrifying.
Yeah, I wouldn't want to bethem.
No, no, Because you imaginedjust well you did get lost at.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yellowstone.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
I did yep there were a lot of forest people around,
though I basically experiencedwhat these guys went through.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
I was lost among the campsites.
I was not in the fuckingwilderness.
I would have ended waydifferently if I was in the
wilderness.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
I can tell you that much Now.
The group was scheduled toreturn on February 12th, and
that day came and went, but noalarm was raised, since it was
typical for excursions like thisto take a few extra days from
time to time, depending on theweather.
But the first person to raisean alarm was Rima Kolevatov.
She was the sister of AlexanderKolevatov.

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Now she started to make callsto the Explorers Club that had
granted permission for the hike,and she also called the
university, and it wasn't untilFebruary 21st, over a week after
the hikers were due to return,that the first search parties
were deployed.
This search party was composedof professional hikers, military
and university students,because they're like my friends.

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Yes, even the Indigenous Manzitribe volunteered to help the
search.
There was also an aerial search,and it wasn't until February
26th.
The hikers' partiallysnow-covered tent was found, 25
days since the hikers had died.
That's a long time Now, see andthis is kind of where some of

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the lourish comes from at least,putting the blame onto the
Manzi people was the originaltwo guys who found the tent.
They found it on the 24th, butthey didn't report it until the
26th and they didn't touch thetent, they wouldn't go in it or
anything, because they had thesedrawing suspicions that this is

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a ritual shit from the Manzipeople.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
I don't know a lot about it.
It's like you at the Sacajaweaburial ground, abs of fucking
Lutli.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
I ain't trying to fuck with that shit, dawg, yeah,
yeah yeah, it's just scary.
So yeah, I totally get this guy.
I mean, honestly, would youhave touched that shit?
No, it depends on the shit, Iguess me now I probably would
have gone in, but these guyswere university students, so
they were like in their early20s.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
So 2021.
Right, right, so probably myshit Superstacious, yeah I would
have been the same set.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, I would have been like, no, I'm good dawg.
Yeah, that's fair.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
I might have touched the stuff, but I don't think I
would have done too much.
I think I would have touchedsomething for the thrill of it
and then just gotten scared andleft.
Now the official report of whatwas found in the tent says the
tent itself was torn.
There were food supplies andbags at the feet and the
blankets were unfolded.
Under the blankets spread outwere there quilted jackets,

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storm jackets, boots andbackpacks laid on the floor.
Now, not too far from the tent,about 50 feet or so, the search
party came across footprintsleading down the mountain away
from the tent site.
These tracks were left byhikers that were not wearing any
shoes.
Of course, at first the trackswere together, but the further
out the tracks went, the morethey began to separate from one

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another.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah, I bet you, it was like wide out conditions.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
I was probably pretty windy and it's dark as fuck.
You know there's no light.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah, well, I mean you get the light of the moon,
unless it is.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
And it would reflect off the snow, but if it was
cloudy it'd be dark as fuck.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Cloudy and wind's picking up like he was saying
that it was picking up from justsnow flurries, all that kind of
stuff, yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
So, as the search party continued to follow the
tracks, the first bodies werediscovered.
Yuri Krivonyshenko and YuriDoroshenko were found under a
tree nearly one mile away fromthe tent.
Both bodies were found halfnaked.
Krivonyshenko's body had on ashirt, torn white underpants and

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trunks.
Doroshenko's body had on ashirt, another button-up shirt,
padded pants and shorts.
Neither one had any shoes orsocks on, and there were the
remnants of a fire close by thatthey had attempted to use for
heat, which is the fires areweird to me because I'm like how
did you start the fire just outthere by yourself?

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There was a tree.
So they found a tree right nextto these guys where it looked
like somebody had either triedto.
There's the conspiracy side ofit that they tried to climb the
tree to get away from something.
And then there was the morelikely thing where they were
just breaking the branches offthe bottom part of the tree to
collect for the firewood.
But how the fuck would thatshit burn?
Because it's covered in snow.
You know what I mean.

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Tough, but they probably havetricks.
You know what?

Speaker 1 (22:49):
I mean, they probably know what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
They're getting the internal branches that are
covered by the top canopy, thatkind of shit.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
And they're probably dry as shicks.
It's not really melting upthere, it's just negative
degrees.
Everything's just frozen asfuck.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yeah, so I'm sure they had their little tricks and
stuff.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
That's a good point, ian, good job.
About a thousand feet away fromthe first two bodies, the
frozen body of the group leader,igor Dyatlov was found.
He had collapsed around a smalltree facing the tent,
suggesting he was making anattempt to return to the tent.
Dyatlov was also foundpartially dressed, most notably

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without boots or a coat.
Yeah, just over anotherthousand feet away from Dyatlov,
the body of Sinaita Komogorovawas discovered.
She was found lying sideways,knees pulled up to her stomach,
arms bent at the elbows and heldup to her face.
She was also found without ajacket, shoes nor gloves.

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So she was just laying there inthe fetal position, like just
shivering herself to death,basically.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, man rough.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Now this is the part that really blew my mind on this
way with the rescue group.
Like this whole group, thewhole search party was struck
with grief.
They did not intend on findingbodies when they began the
search, this group of hikers.
They were so damn experiencedthat the search group was
intending on finding them alive,which is insane.

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They're missing for 25 days atthis point.
26 days, yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Well, they thought that they had just gotten lost.
So I mean, they are expertsurvivors.
They thought they'd just findthem camped out somewhere off
the beaten path and you know,unable to find the trail and
stuff like that.
But I mean, 25 days is a longfucking time.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah, what would?

Speaker 2 (24:38):
they eat.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Well, I got okay.
So going back to like the nameof the dead mountain, the reason
it was named the dead mountainwas because there is such little
life, of food like animals.
Yeah, Wildlife.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Yeah, that's what it was like Wildlife.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
There was like none of that, and so the Monty people
wouldn't go there typically tohunt because it was so scarce,
right, and really nothing was upthere and you were so exposed
to all the elements, so that'swhy it was called dead mountain.
So I don't really know whatthey were anticipating them
eating, I guess, unless they hadenough of food supply.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Just to ration out.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
I was going to say they probably brought quite a
bit of stuff, and then I meanthey are resourceful at the end
of the day and I guess at theend of the day you can live
about a month without food Right.
Well it's two weeks withoutwater.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
No, water is like days.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Without water it's days.
Yeah, are you sure, becausewater is the important one.
I think that's like seven days,right?
How long can you live withoutwater?
Look it up.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Three days.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Man, we're weak.
We're weak bitches.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Well, we're like 70% water, so it's kind of an
important part of the balanceddiet.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah, I guess that's true.
All right, interesting Crazy.
That's so quick 72 hours inyour yeah, no 36 hours.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
You were right.
The first time Yep I was, Iwent from 24 to 12.
That's why.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
You sure?

Speaker 2 (26:09):
you don't need some water now, buddy, are you okay?

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Honestly, the trip to Colorado.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
I might still be dehydrated, dude honestly, the
amount of water I've had todrink since we got back from
Colorado is pretty intense.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
It's so, oh my God, it's so hard to live in Colorado
.
It is All right.
Back to the story now.
Please, if you could stopdistracting us away from the
story.
You're on the last paragraph ofyour part, uh-huh?
Yeah, I'm just saying you'redistracting me so much, all
right.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Mr, you could go two weeks without water, okay.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
I'm a survivalist, all right.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Right.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
You know you got to be dumb to survive, Okay.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Now for six more days the search party looked for the
remaining hikers and finallycame across Rustin Sloborin's
frozen body.
Now, just like Diet LoveSloborin was found lying face
down in the direction of thetent, suggesting that he was
also trying to make a desperateattempt to return to the tent.
Oh, these poor guys, I know,and it makes me kind of wonder,

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like, were they going back forsupplies?
Uh, probably, it's like, butwhy were they, you know, away
from the tent?
Why didn't the whole group go?

Speaker 2 (27:15):
I have my theory on that of why they had to cut
their way out of the tent.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yes, but we'll get into that.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
All five bodies were flown off to have autopsies
conducted, where they were allfound to have various cuts and
bruises to their bodies.
Like injuries included bruising, cuts and abrasions to the nose
, eyebrows and cheeks.
Further bruises and scrapeswere found on the knuckles,
ankles and wrists in the back ofthe hands.
Now, all of these injuries wereat the time to determine to be

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caused by simply falling overthrough the snow and the trees,
but the official cause of deathfor these five hikers was
recorded as hypothermia.
I mean, that makes sense.
Yeah, yeah, I mean you'refucking freezing.
Yes, all five hikers were foundwith are more commonly
associated with being in afistfight or even self-defense.
So a rumor began that thehikers had actually turned on

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each other, lost control andfought each other.
This rumor is heavily denied bythe people who were close to
the hikers, especially by YuriYudin.
He's the guy who had left thegroup in the early stages due to
his sickness and injuries.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yeah, and also these guys had gone on like they had
done their whole previousmileage for this status or this
accolade that they were tryingto get.
So I mean, and they were in thesame school, they had grown up
together, Like it's prettyheavily debunked by everyone
around them at least Right Right.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
The head investigator , investigator Ivanov, was
extremely worried that theSoviet leaders would use this
rumor to actually cover up thetruth of the incident.
So they'd just be like, yeah,they all just got in a fight and
then died.
But Ivanov was not about to letthat fly.
He immediately had the officialreport of the cause of death of
hypothermia copied anddistributed to as many people as
possible to counter thispossible cover up, which is

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interesting.
Brave of him.
Brave and interesting Becauseit's the Soviet military.
Well, you also wonder, like whywould they?
Why would they say, oh well,they got in a fight instead of
just saying they died fromhypothermia?
Like what was the military'sreason for wanting the
difference between the two?
Put your tinfoil hats on, ladiesand gentlemen, thickens.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Now this news of the incident was beginning to spread
very quickly and, in an attemptto divide, divert the attention
, the Soviet officials attemptedto have the bodies buried
hundreds of miles away fromtheir home city, which only
fanned the flames to conspiracy.
More Public pressure wasmounting against these officials
and they eventually were forcedto return the hiker's body's

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home, and the funeral ended upattracting thousands of people
from all around, exactly whatthe officials did not want to
happen at all.
Now, this is crazy, and thosethat were in attendance of the
funeral recall KGB members beingeverywhere keeping the eye on
the whole ordeal.
The ones that were close to thecase remember being followed by

(30:12):
the KGB members and at thefuneral right, it's just that's
who I want to be followed by KGBmembers so scary, I mean they
just KGB is just terrifying.
Terrifying individuals Now atthe funeral, the rumors of
lights in the sky, strangephotographs and secret military
tests and secret military testsbegan to spread amongst the

(30:34):
crowd.
The search for the fourremaining hikers was put on hold
a few weeks after finding thefirst five bodies, due to the
weather getting worse and theneed for the search area to thaw
and melt out.
That's how extreme this shitwas, yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
God, I'm searching for live people, for to
searching for people thatthey're 99 percent sure are dead
.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Yeah, and now these when we talk about, like the
strange photographs and lightsin the sky, it's because of
those last photos that theyfound in the camera.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Well, he found this.
I saw the photo itself and itis a really weird photo because
the rest of the photos are verymuch so like in focus.
They're very plain.
Except for the Yeti, ian.
Well, okay, yeah, yeah, theYeti.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Yeah, these are elusive, that Yeti.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
They're very, very well taken and all that stuff.
And then the very last cameraand the camera or very last
photo in the camera role waslike this weird shot of these
lights in the sky, maybe, orlike lights on the side of the
mount.
You can't tell at all becauseit's very blurry, it's very
rushed.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
That's what it seems like.
Some of them are trying to saythat it's like a streaking light
, but it's not.
It's like multiple light.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah, there's like a few different lights on the.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
It's weird, yeah.
So they're like maybe it wasaliens and the KGB is like shut
up Right now.
It is not, it is.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Three months after the incident, a Monzi native,
kurakov, spotted some compbranches that seemed to form a
trail.
He followed this trail with hisdog.
Oh good old little dog.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
He's a good boy.
He's a good boy.
Good discovery Dead bodies.
Good discovery Dead bodies.
One tree Good discovery Deadbodies.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Kurakov's like good boy, good boy.
We find these bodies.
I don't know why I speak in.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
English, but English, now we can do Russian accent.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Very briefly, until it gets to.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Transform, I do more than five words.
Yeah, scottish orCzechoslovakian or whatever.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
So he followed this trail with his dog and
discovered some clothing thatseemed to have been cut by a
knife.
The search team was then calledback in and began to dig around
in the area.
Buried under more than 10 feetof snow, they found a small den.
Cut branches were laid out tomake a makeshift floor and at
first there was no sign of thehikers.
But after one search member,who was the hiker's friend from
school, plunged his hookedtipped avalanche pole into the

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snow and pulled it back up, hesaw that he had pulled a chunk
of flesh up from below the snowGross that's snarly Like huh,
what is?
let me just Huh, yes, I'm surehis first instinct was to taste
it.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Yeah, just let me.
Just.
Let me just dangle this in mymouth a little bit yeah, there's
some odd beef jerky guys,that's just weird, that's just
weird.
Hmm, it's got a little.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
What.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
It's.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Duba Nina, duba Nina, god.
So everybody immediately camerushing over to dig and they
quickly uncovered Duba Nina,buried under 12 feet of snow.
She was found in a small ravine.
The three remaining bodies ofNikolai Alexander and Semion
were found close to Duba Nina.
They were all found very closeto each other, suggesting that

(33:35):
they were most likely huddledtogether in one final attempt to
find warmth before dying.
Oh I know.
So sad.
The bodies were quickly andcarefully removed and taken to
the evacuation point, but due tothe conspiracies of this
incident possibly being relatedto secret military weapons
testing, the thought ofradiation poisoning was on
everyone's mind.

(33:55):
The helicopter pilots wouldn'teven accept the bodies on the
helicopter until the bodies werecovered in zinc lined cases.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Yeah, that's how bad these conspiracies were being
fanned within like a quickamount of time.
Yeah, well, I mean yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
The conspiracy possible truth.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
This conspiracy did led to some truth.
Now, the reason why it was likea den that they say, and then
they found like the branch snowcave.
Yeah, they built their own snowcave and what they think is
that that it collapsed on themand they didn't build it well
enough because they were in arush and trying to survive In a
rush and freezing cold.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Yeah, oh.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
God.
Now the bodies were finallytransported back for autopsy,
and this is where shit getsreally fucking weird.
Nikolai, also known as Tebowhis report, came back with a
skull fracture on the right sideof his head.
The medical examiner includedthat he didn't believe that the
amount of damage that was donecould have been done by simply
falling and hitting his head.

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In the report he states theextensive, depressed, multi
splintered fracture could belikened to the result of an
impact with an automobile movingat high speed.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
And what's crazy about this wound is like there
wasn't very much surf.
There was surface bruising, butthere wasn't like surface
abrasions or surface cuts oranything on that part where if
he had gotten hit by a fuckingcar going that fast or something
you know, it would have leftsome sort of abrasion, some sort
of cut, some sort of somethingon the surface of the skin other
than just bruising.
You know what I think?

Speaker 1 (35:26):
of is when Glenn gets hit by Lucille, by Negan,
except if you take the barbedwire off Lucille and just that
cave part of his head is justlike indented.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Gross Alexander's report came back even stranger,
and this is what it read thereis a wound of undetermined shape
behind the right ear.
The neck is long and thin anddeformed in the area of the
thyroid cartilage, so his neck'sjust fucked up.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
And then he's got this really random fucking wound
right behind his ear.
Now Simone, the oldest in thegroup.
He was the guy in the latethirties.
He was found with extremefacial decay which was most
likely a result of laying in theravine.
But the most notable injury forhim was his crushed chest
cavity.
That was determined to havehappened before he had died

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Falcon punch, did you imagine?
It was determined that whatevercaused this injury was the
result of a high power impactand is the main cause of his
death.
In that report it is said thathis death was a result of
violence.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Yeah, yeah.
Wasn't it the result ofviolence?
Wasn't it the?
I'm scrolling up, if you couldmark where we are.
Yeah, what's the name of thatarticle?
An unknown compelling force?
Yeah, well, that's the final.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
That's what the investigator wrapped up as the
last few sentences of the wholereport.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Okay, yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
And now we're about to introduce this medical
examiner that's from Californiawho goes over the autopsy
reports and everything like that, and it's he's like yeah, it
could be, it's definitely aviolent impact that happened to
him, but if it was another human, they would have had to been
basically Brock Lesnar, and afull impact punch by Brock

(37:23):
Lesnar to this man Like andBrock Lesnar is not going to
make it up that hill, no, it's.
They don't know what the fuckreally caused this.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
I mean it could have gotten, like I don't know,
stepped on by like a moose orlike an elk or something you
know.
Yeah, I mean that's possible,like if he had fallen and it was
charging him and just well,with a moose impact.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Well, I guess, yeah, if it was a head or something.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Yeah, that's actually but there's no wild life
Sometimes there's no vegetationfor the meat.
They were hiding in trees.
Do moose eat trees?
They eat something and theylive in those kinds of areas.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
I'm not gonna go.
Yeah, we're okay.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Yeah, could be a moose, death by moose.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
We solved the mystery .
That's it, end of episode.
Thank you guys for taking alook.
Alright, thanks for yeah likecomment.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
share no.
So Dubenina was found face downin the ravine.
She also had no boots on and inwrapped sweatshirts around her
feet in an attempt to keep herfeet warm.
Her snow pants that she had onwere badly burnt from a fire
that they had made to try andkeep warm through that final
night.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Now it's yeah, cause it's crazy.
So everyone that was found nextto a fire their hands and feet
were burned if they didn't haveboots on and is what they think
possibly because they were burnt, like burnt, burnt is that it
was so cold and windy that nightthat they were literally having
to stick their hands and feetinto the flame to feel any sense
of heat?
I mean, that's desperation,that is, that is last resort,

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trying to warm your shit up,cause I mean fuck.
I was watching it cook.
You smell that shit.
Oh yeah, I mean, think of it.
We were just snowboarding.
My right foot was like freezing.
Yeah, it was like covered ineverything.
Yeah, imagine this situation.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
No, oh, don't want to be there Now.
Anyone who has taken a lookinto this incident knows that
Dubenina was missing her eyeswhen she was found, and it is
believed that her eyes weremissing due to being face down
in the ravine.
Those are some of the quickestthings to decay on the human
body.
But the biggest mystery to thisis that her tongue was missing
and the autopsy report leftliterally absolutely no

(39:26):
explanation as to why it wasgone, which usually you can kind
of tell like oh, it was cutwith a sharp object or oh, it
was pulled off.
You can usually tell that kindof thing just by looking at it,
but there was no explanationgiven, which is kind of
suspicious.
Now, dubenina had also suffereda massive chest injury.
Multiple ribs were broken bysome kind of crushing force

(39:47):
powerful enough to puncture herheart.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Good, you gotta fuck up your ribs in order to
puncture your heart.
Yeah, you've got to cave allthe way in.
Yeah, and we're going to goback into these like a little
bit with the reevaluation ofmodern experts on this.
So, after all of this medicalexamination, the investigators
were still left completelybaffled.
They had just watched anepisode of Lost, basically, and

(40:10):
they're like, yeah, I came inwith 25 questions, what's?

Speaker 2 (40:13):
with the smoky dragon .
Why is there a polar bear on atropical island?

Speaker 1 (40:21):
They all had gained more questions instead of
answers and, given the scare ofpossible military testing and
possible radiation, the leadmedical examiner had the bodies
and clothes all tested forradiation and some of those
found in the ravine showed aboveaverage levels of radiation.
Some of the military testingthat they were thinking of was

(40:45):
they did parachute bombing,because, keep in mind, ladies
and gentlemen, this is in theera of the Cold War.
Yeah, so they were, you know,very anti-American at this point
and they were testing parachutebombs and they thought that
maybe, that there was possibly amad like off-drift of one that
just landed by these guys, whichthey also conspiracy theory of

(41:07):
that there's a possibleavalanche.
But that was super quick ruledout Because you could tell if
there was a fucking avalanche.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
That's pretty evident .
It's pretty.
Yeah, they had expertsimmediately, like the expert
hikers went on the searchBecause that was their first
thought when they saw thehalf-covered tent.
But they're like well, first ofall, the half-covered tent is
still here.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
It's still staked down.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
The fucking ski pools are on the ground.
Yeah, and there's.
The slope is way too gradual.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Yeah, it's not an avalanche, not a tornado.
It's not going to leave thecoffee maker on the fucking
counter, you know what I mean.
It's going to wipe the wholekitchen away, exactly Because
it's an avalanche.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
And so they immediately ruled that out.
But yet there's still sometheories out there that it was a
possible avalanche.
But that's just not fuckingtrue, mm-hmm.
Now, at this point, rumors wereflying of the possible military
interference with the hikersdemise, especially with the
proof of radiation.
So, needless to say, the Sovietcommanders were not fucking
pleased about this and they hadthe lead investigator sent home

(42:04):
and the case closed.
Nice, nice, and this is whereand yeah right, it's just like
you know what.
We don't want to be involvedwith this anymore.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
You're pretty sure you guys are done, raul.
Yeah, with your investigation.
Pretty sure you guys are done.
You're not done.
No, you're done.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
And it wasn't like the lead investigator really
wanted to, but he was.
You're listening to the Sovietmilitary.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
It's either do what we say or you're said to, or we
shoot you in the head.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
You shoot you in the head or you're sent to a fucking
gulag yeah, or we'll just putyou in the fucking ravine like
these guys yeah.
So the closing statement of theincident report stated it is
concluded that the cause oftheir demise was from an unknown
compelling force which thetourists were not able to
overcome.
The criminal case on the deathof the group of tourists and

(42:47):
further proceedings are to beterminated.
Man they, just because they hadthis image.
You know the Soviets could dono wrong.
Yeah, you know they were theiron curtain.
Yes, they were the embodimentof a perfection.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Well, of course, when is the Soviet Union ever messed
up, other than when they nolonger became a thing?
Yeah, they had a good run.
Yeah, they did.
It took until the fall of theSoviet Union for this case file
to be released to the public.
So we're going to go througheach hiker's injuries and
possible explanations of deaththat are re-evaluated by Natalia

(43:22):
Sakharov, a criminal expert inRussia who worked as a doctor in
the Russian prison system for10 years and also as an expert
criminalist for the police for16 years.
So she knew her shit.
Yeah, she's been around somefucking shit, yeah, yeah.
And also Ken Holmes, who workedin the Marin County CA
Coroner's office for 36 years,so both know what they're
talking about and both arefeatured in the 2021 documentary

(43:44):
An Unknown Compelling Force.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Yeah, ken Holmes.
He's the American dude at theCoroner's office, so he knows
his shit when he's likereevaluating what these autopsy
reports said.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Right.
So Natalia first starts out bysaying that there was no real
way to determine if the tentswere cut from the inside or the
outside, and that theinvestigators on site of the
incident didn't actually knowwhat they were looking for.
She predicts from her 26 yearsin criminology that this
incident was conclusively amurder.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Right, you should see her.
She's convincing.
She's like she's very matter offact of the shit.
She has a sheet, yeah, and shehas this fucking wicked knife in
the documentary.
She's like this is like thesame material.
And she's like stabs the sheetand she goes see, see, that you
can see how this and that startsand that ends.
And then she stabs it in adifferent way and like rips it a
little bit.
She's like see, you can seethat.

(44:34):
And the judge from that picture, these guys had no idea what
the fuck they were looking for.
I mean, obviously she didn'tsay fuck, right, she's just like
they didn't know what they werelooking for.
This is how you can tell, andso there's no real proof that it
was cut from the inside or theoutside.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Ken Holmes believes that the 1959 autopsies were
very thorough but lack accuracyfor at least seven of the hikers
, Seven of the eight.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
Oh yeah, you're right , nine, you're the only one that
left.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
He believes that the amount of trauma that was done
to these hikers had to have beencaused by a very strong force
and not just something like theyfell over or were simply hit by
another human.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Yeah, he's like something fucking hit these
dudes, yeah, Something hard.
Another expert that was broughtinto this documentary is Mick
Finnerty.
He's a he's.
He's not a guy I want to havedinner with, no.
He's a retired FBI specialagent who dealt with some of the
country's more complex criminalcases, such as the Elizabeth

(45:33):
Smart case.
That dealt with brainwashing,human trafficking cases and some
of the more bizarre murdercases around the States.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Now when you say you wouldn't want to have dinner
with them, do you mean he wasjust very bland, because that
sounds like exciting dinnerconversation to me?

Speaker 1 (45:46):
He's just very bland.
He's like matter very matter offact.
He's like, just because of theevidence, that's proven that
this is probably a homicide.
And this is that you know.
Because of this proof.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Right.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
And I'm like how about any kind of leniency of
just this, that and the other?
He goes, that just holds nogrounds.
Okay, thanks, mick.
All right, mick, do you wantsome lasagna?

Speaker 2 (46:08):
That also holds no grounds Okay.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
You're probably a meatloaf guy, aren't you?

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Great, great Mick.
Can I get you some wine?
No Water, I'm going to fuckinghang myself real quick.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
I want a glass of warm milk.
He seems like a warm milk kindof guy.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
Perfect.
Now Mick states that this caseis where you need to apply the
principle of Occam's razor.
That is when the most simpleanswer is often the most correct
answer.
Now, he does not believe thatthe hikers left the tent in a
blind hysteria and traveled sofar without any protection from

(46:53):
the elements, especially withouttrained and experienced.
These hikers were Like theyknow they're about to run out
and all this shit.
They're going to at least grabthe boots and something like
that.
You know, like grab a coat,grab a pair of socks, right.
But instead he believes thatthey were driven from the tent
from someone, or multiplesomeone's, and that this is a

(47:13):
very clear homicide.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
So I don't blame him.
I don't blame him.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
Now when Mick for turn for nerdy, for nerdy, for
nerdy For nerdy.
Now when Mick tells you thatit's a homicide, it might be a
homicide because it's Mick, mickdon't fuck around.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
He's got a glass of warm milk and he's ready to tell
you.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
All right.
So let's go ahead and breakdown some of these fucking
bizarre injuries.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Ludmila and Zolotaryov both suffered extreme
injuries to the chest cavitybut given the position of the
bodies, this could not have comefrom the same impact.
For Zolotaryov, it is suspectedfrom these new experts that
something extremely heavy camecrashing down on him while he
was in a stationary position.
Moose hoof.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
I don't think it would have been in the hoof, I
think it would have been juststraight up a ram right in
between the antlers, right inhis head.
You know, because of his hoofit would have been more of like
a small direct impact on thewhole thing.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
You know how big those fucking hooves are.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
I guess they are pretty big, they are huge.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Yeah, those are big motherfuckers.
I don't even know if Russia hasmooses, though it could be like
a big reindeer or whatever theyhave over there.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
It could be reindeer.
Yeah, it could be.
No, reindeer's are kind of moredocile, I think.
I mean if not, if threatened,you know, we're going to just
keep going with the moose theory.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Yeah, moose All day Now.
Lubmila's chest injury wassimilar, but far more extensive.
She was hit so hard that, afterher ribs cracked, her ribs
flexed out and penetrated theheart.
This type of impact can onlycome from a high-speed car crash
or like a fall that is higherthan 50 feet.
Something fucking huge.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
Yeah, oh, and that's Dubonina, by the way.
I should have replaced theirfirst names back.
So also with Dubonina.
Not much more research ortheories can be conducted from
her missing eyes Because, likewe said, since the ravine most
likely accelerated the decayingprocess of that soft tissue, her
tongue is a completelydifferent story, mm-hmm.
Now, some say that a rodent oranother kind of animal might

(49:14):
have gotten its way In her mouthand eaten your tongue.
Gross right, but the problemwith this is that there was
fucking blood found in herstomach, which suggests that her
tongue was either cut out orripped out of her mouth prior to
her death.
Hmm, swallowed that blood tasty.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
I bet it was warm, probably warmed her tummy.
You know, when you don't havehot cocoa, tear out your own
tongue maybe she did it toherself, maybe she bit her
tongue.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Actually I wonder if she was like, if she fell in,
like yeah, she decided for somereason she just falls with her
tongue completely out and she'sjust ah, maybe.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
But she didn't die by drowning, which that usually
would be what happens after that, because you're, you got a lot
of blood going on and you'relike, already in hypothermic
state and you're like they panic, and then you.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
Well, unless you just lead it over just let.
Now, t-po was found in the sameravine as the other two, except
he had a massive fracture tohis right temple.
Now, this type of fracture mostlikely resulted from being
struck in the head while in anupright position.
Ah, classic Glenn.

(50:24):
Yeah, dude this is mm-hmm, bro,I'm these four, these four it
was, it was Negan.
Holy shit, I think we figuredit out.
That's it.
That is it.
That's the one, that's it.
All right.
Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, once again.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Now.
Kolevatov was the fourth memberof this group of hikers in the
ravine.
He had a very odd injury behindhis ear and it was reported
that his neck was disfigured inthe autopsy report.
The injury behind the ear is anextremely rare place to suffer
an injury when just falling over.
After looking through thephotographs and medical reports,
natalia believes that Kolevatovwas strangled to death and

(51:08):
she's seen people gettingstrangled before.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Yeah, like this.
This is definitely.
She's like.
Oh yeah, I know I have like 36cases of this this is exactly
what these other 36 people hadlooked like.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
This was my internship.
You wonder if she could take alook at the Epstein photos.
The other hikers had relativelyminimal injuries, such as
scrapes, bruises and burn marksfrom their fires, except for
Roostim slow Boden, who also hada massive fracture to the side
of the skull that could not havebeen caused by simply falling

(51:39):
and hitting a Stone underneaththe snow.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Yeah, just it's too much.
It's just it, yeah, unless heReally whipped himself back and
plunged himself into that rock.
Yeah, yeah at 70 miles an hour.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
For the other hikers, the cuts, scrapes and deep
bruises are now assumed to havebeen defensive wounds and wounds
caused by attempting to fightback Whatever might have been
attacking them now Igor Dyatlovwas found heading back to the
tent, assuming that he wasprobably going back to find
supplies.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
What is noted about his bruising is that they were
mostly around his wrists andankles, along with some cuts
Giving the impression that hemight have been tied up at some
point.
Hmm being tied up is a theorythat extends to all of the
hikers that were found outsideof the ravine, which could
explain why they were not ableto make it through the night.

(52:26):
They could have expelled themajority of their energy getting
out of the binds and startingtheir fires.
Now, I personally have a hardtime believing this, though,
because no reports of any kindlike have any kind of binding
material that show up.
The only thing that's ever notedis one strap that is from the
manzi people, but I have afeeling that was just because it

(52:48):
was a strap that's used forthem to tie up to reindeer and
like basically as a sled.
But I believe that the guy thatread the horse to carry their
stuff, probably a strap of, waslike oh, you probably need that
because you forgot one.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Yeah, you know, I something, something along those
lines.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
That's the only one they could find.
Now, another thing to consider,but also kind of disregard are
the lights in the sky, like wewere talking about?
All right, there's a beliefthat the Soviets were doing
testing in the area like we weretalking about, but there's no
geological Evidence that a bombmight have gone off anywhere
close to the hikers at all.
So it's just a conspiracy,right.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
Now, the most bizarre part of this case is that damn
radiation fucking radiation twoof the four hikers that were
found in the ravine Duba Nina,the one without the tongue, and
Alexander, the one that wasfound with the disfigured neck.
We're found with clothes thattested positive for radiation.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
This, this explanation is really crazy.
I didn't know all of thisbefore mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
The Duba Nina sweater that she was wearing actually
came from Yuri Krivon ishenko,and it is believed that she took
this sweater off of his deadbody.
Now, the weirdest part of thisis that Yuri actually worked at
a nuclear facility that suffereda major nuclear explosion Only
a year and a half prior to thediet law of past incident.
Yuri was part of the cleanupcrew.

(54:09):
This explosion was known as theKishin disaster, which is
actually the third largestnuclear disaster in the world,
following Chernobyl andFukushima.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
This incident was completely covered up by the
Soviet Union because when ithappened, it was the biggest in
the world, in world history,mm-hmm.
And then there was Chernobyland there was Fukushima.
But Soviet Union did one hellof a job of covering this one up
because no one fucking knewabout it, mm-hmm.
Barely anyone still knows aboutit.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
Yeah, I didn't know about it till this.
With Alexander, he went to workfor a secretive nuclear
facility in Moscow.
Now it's quite possible that hecame into contact with
radioactive materials from theother nuclear explosion site, or
he may have simply Worn thecontaminated sweater before
giving it to Duba Nina gosh, andthat's just crazy that they had
all this.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
So now, given how the protection of Soviet citizens
was not a priority at nuclearfacilities during the Cold War
era because he civilian life wasexpendable, yeah, there is a
strong chance that the radiationcame from one of these nuclear
facilities, rather than someexperimental weapon used by the
Soviet military.

(55:16):
So in the documentary anon-known compelling force, they
discussed how this was duringthe height of the Cold War and
how the Soviet Union had areputation to uphold as a
powerhouse and how nothing couldgo wrong.
Not a single thing.
Not a single thing.
If you've watched the showChernobyl, or watch or read
anything about fiction.
Fiction right, according to the.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Soviets.
That's not even happened.
That was not a thing.
It's actually still fullyfunctioning.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
So, as the investigation was going on, they
only discovered five of thenine hikers.
So there was more than likely athought that the remaining four
had defected as American spies,obviously with the.
So they wanted to keepeverything under wraps as much
as possible.
Think it's.
I mean just as like such astrong force they were so

(56:04):
skeptical, right, like they'rein the fucking Ural Mountains.
Yeah, they defect as youAmerican spies.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Well, that's the Americans.
Dude, we're sleazy like that,we're sneaky.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
If you have the Americans creeping up into the
Ural Mountains, your protectionsucks.
You've already been nuked.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
They have a border crisis.
Yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
Now this would explain the odd attempted
funeral arrangements and theSoviet pressure to hurry up the
investigation.
But what they didn't accountfor in a typical fucking Soviet
move, was that this was creatingconspiracy from the get-go Plus
.
When the lead investigatorasked for a radiation test of
the last four hikers, theSoviets probably flip shit

(56:46):
because they didn't wantanything about a previous
nuclear power plant Like meltingdown.
Yeah, melting down, thank you.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
On the meltdown.
They didn't yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
So they didn't want this to fucking link because
there was a chance that it wouldweaken their reputation to the
world and allow America to lookat them as an illegitimate power
.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
I feel like the Soviet Union is just like the
insecure popular girl apps sofucking you know like the
insecure popular girl.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
They were super insecure about this the Soviet
Union is mean girls.
Now, all of this, of course,are assumptions made by the
documentary, but they are prettydamn believable explanations or
Assumptions, given what we knowabout the Soviet Union and how
they try to cover up things likeChernobyl and literally

(57:36):
everything else that went on.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Anything you wanted, the stuff that we don't know.
That, my god, you know right.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
Like we just know the big shit.
Yeah, all this small shit thatthey covered.
Yeah, that's actually scary.
There's a book about that?

Speaker 2 (57:48):
It probably is.
Yeah, are you looking it upright now?
No, oh, I thought you wereactively.
I was like Cooper, not the time.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
Finish the podcast.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
So since we can most likely rule out military weapons
testing, soviet interferenceSince they were just looking out
for themselves and didn't givea rat's ass about the actual
hikers and we can clearly seethat there was some kind of
external force that killed theseexperienced hikers rather than
them killing themselves, weshould probably go back and
reexamine Occam's razor, theMonzy tribe.
The Monzy tribe in thenorthwestern region of Siberia

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there are an indigenous peopleknown as the Monzy and the Conti
people who have been in thearea for thousands of years.
These indigenous peopletraditionally survived through
fighting, hunting and herdingreindeer.
Since the 13th century, theMonzy and Conti groups have been
united to fiercely defend theirland against the invading
Russians.
But by the time of Soviet eraRussia, the indigenous way of

(58:45):
life suffered greatly as theirlands were taken and their
numbers were diminished.
You think we're fucking mean tothe Native Americans?
I can only imagine how mean theSoviets probably.
Oh yeah, they were.
Just like we're just gonna comein and we're gonna kill you.
Yeah, well, we did that too.
Yeah, we did yeah, so, needlessto say, these indigenous.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
We had.
We gave him a nice littlewalking trail to get over to the
lands.
That were Nice little walking,a nice little walking trail.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
What's that trail called?

Speaker 1 (59:10):
Yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
Andy Jackson.
He's still on the 20, so,needless to say, these
indigenous people had a strongdistrust and resentment towards
the Soviet Russians.
However, igor Dylov and hisgroup were extremely excited to
meet these people and learn moreof their language and customs,

(59:32):
but it's unclear if the groupactually came into contact with
them at all.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
See, the Monzy's were the first suspects in this
investigation.
But they were ruled out becausethe investigators thought that
the tent slashes were open fromthe inside and local Russians
vouched for the Monzy people.
Plus, one of the Monzy's evenvolunteered their services to
help to search for the hikers.
But if you're any fan of truecrime, like Ian and I are, you

(59:59):
know that criminals will oftencome back to the scene of the
crime and even try to putthemselves inside of the
investigation, either for thrillor to guide the investigation
away from themselves.
So after the incident the localindigenous Monzy people
volunteered as professionalguides to search for the hikers.
But there was suspicion thatthe Monzy people had contributed

(01:00:21):
to the deaths of the hikers.
A a root, a rumor was goingaround saying that the hikers
had stumbled upon a sacred Monzisite and paid with their lives
for it.
The slashes on the tent didn'thelp the Monzi's either.
In an original case file itsays it was established.
The group suddenly left the tentand there is reason to believe

(01:00:44):
that the tent was cut by someoneelse.
Some local Monzi people werequestioned about their sacred
rituals, but they told theinvestigators that the mountain
had never been guarded by theMonzi people and the Russian
people were not forbade to gothere.
So they're like, oh okay.
And this is when some of theforensics came back from the
tent slashes and were like, ohno, it was cut inside by a blade

(01:01:06):
.
So it was determined that atthe time the slashes had come
from inside, proving that thePanik hikers cut their way out
of the tent themselves and madea run for it.
So they dropped the Monzipeople from suspicion completely
.
They're like you know what?
We have enough proof.
Here we have our expert tentcutter people.
That's a job.
That is a job that you get paidfor in Soviet Russia.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Ten days after the investigation had begun, some of
the Monzi were questioned andsaid that there were no more
sacred praying sites on themountain, but this contradicted
other testimony from Monzistating that there were, in fact
, multiple sacred sites amongthe mountain.
In one of the photographsrecorded from the camera from
the group, a picture was takenof a known sacred Monzi cave
site and to the north their mostsacred site was located right

(01:01:49):
there in the Dyatlov Pass.
In the sacred spot there aregiant stone pillars and the
story is that an ancient Monzishaman turned giant invaders
into those stone pillars whenthey threatened to destroy the
Monzi people, which is kind of acool story.
Cool story, bro, it is.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Like I could, you know, like the Troll movie?
Yeah, I could feel this Sadmovie.
They're sad movie.
Hate that movie.
The ending I'm just like whatthe fuck?
So fucking unnecessary bro.
But I feel like this movie,like they could turn this story
into that type of movie.
Yeah, Like with the giantfucking, they turned them into
these giant stone pillars.
Right, right, right Now.
The evidence of someone beingin the hiker's vicinity is that

(01:02:28):
there was a Monzi hut-likestructure in the hikers that had
taken a picture of it, which iskind of spun into this
narrative that someone wasactually there and then hunted
the hikers.
But when you look at thisfucking picture, there is
definitely a structure there,but it looks like it was
abandoned before the wintermonths even began.
The Monzi had said that noMonzi person would travel to the

(01:02:51):
mountains because of the fiercewind.
They're like nah, bro, it sucksup there, why would we go up
there?
And it was simply too dangerousfor them to be up there,
especially when the game was sosparse.
So, there's no food, there's nogame, the wind sucks, it's
really cold.
You know there's not a lot ofcover, except unless you build
yourself a niggloo and they'relike we have.
You know you go like a couplemiles.
Back bro I got my own hut.

(01:03:12):
So the argument that is madehere is that due to recent
tensions, oh, and I guess Ishould say this fucking struck
the hut that they found it lookslike a teepee structure and it.
But there's no tarp around it,it's just the branches and they
had some like elk antlers on ithanging off of it.
Now the argument that is beingmade here is due to recent

(01:03:34):
tensions between the Russiansand the Monzi people and Monzi
rituals being completelyoutlawed by the Russians.
The Monzi held a long, lastinggrudge against any outsider at
all.
Fair enough, I fucking get thatyeah.
Yeah, Some people believe thatthe group stumbled upon a sacred
site and took something ofsignificance, which the Monzi

(01:03:55):
people retaliated bypsychologically and physically
torturing the hikers beforekilling them.
Ah yeah, Now this is notsomething that I personally
believe is true and I, you know,I'm pretty sure you're on the
same page as that because thiskind of sounds like some common
city folk leaning a bit too hardinto the folklore of the people
of the mountain.
Yeah, yeah, it just doesn't.

(01:04:18):
It just doesn't ring true to me.
It sounds.
It sounds like a bit of astretch.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
Little bit, little bit of a stretch especially for
like 1959.
I mean it could also just besome teenagers from the Monzi
tribe, you know what I mean, orjust some like like a small
group of three or four of themhave this extreme, like
extremists.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
Like it's not, like it was the entire fucking
village that went around and didthis, but it very well could
have been just three or four,you know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Well, that's kind of there's also the belief of like
the, the Conti, so the Monzi andthe Conti who kind of united as
one, but they say that therewas like four or five scavenger
Conti people that like wanted tobelieve in the old ways of the
Monzi and Conti and so they leftthe groups and that they were
possibly up there protecting thesacred sites and hunted them

(01:05:04):
down.
But possible, that was broughtup in a conversation like a just
a offbeat conversation with oneof the police officers.
But then later they interviewedthe guy who said that to the
police officer and he's like Ididn't say that shit, but the
police officer was like, yeah,he definitely said that.
Yeah, so it's like he said shesaid what the fuck actually
happened, you know Right Now.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
The Dyatlov Pass incident stands as a haunting
enigma, shrouded in layers ofmystery and speculation that had
persisted for decades.
The tragic fate of Igor Dyatlovand his companions was marked
by a series of events that defyconventional explanation from
the inexplicable decision toflee the safety of their tent in
the dead of night to theharrowing discoveries of the

(01:05:45):
hiker's bodies.
Each revelation has onlydeepened the mystery.
The injuries sustained by theseexperienced adventurers were
far from typical for anexpedition gone awry.
Fractured skulls, broken ribs,missing eyes, missing tongues
all pointed towards a forcebeyond the ordinary dangers of
the wilderness.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
And conspiracy theories have swirled, ranging
from clandestine militaryexperiments to encounters with
indigenous tribes.
Yet, admits the speculation,certain facts emerge.
The tent, possibly slashed openfrom the inside, speaks of a
panicked escape.
The bodies scattered acrosssnowy terrain suggest a

(01:06:25):
desperate struggle against anunknown adversary.
Their opinions andreexaminations of the evidence
yield more questions thananswers.
The injuries, inconsistent withaccidental causes, hint at a
forceful encounter.
The radiation traces found onsome of the clothing further
muddies the water, invokingsuspicions of past nuclear

(01:06:48):
incidents.
The involvement of the manzipeople, initially suspected and
later dismissed, remains acontentious point.
Their sacred sights andpotential tensions with
outsiders offer a backdrop forspeculation, but the evidence
linking them directly to thetragedy remains inconclusive.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
Now there is real quick.
Before I wrap this up, there isa documentary that I watched
that kinda like put into scope,really focused on why they left
the tent in the first place, notso much on the things
surrounding their actual deaths,but why the fuck did this group
of experienced hikers leavetheir tent with none of their
clothes in the middle of thenight.
Now there's obviously thequestion of did somebody scare

(01:07:29):
them out?
Yada, yada, yada, and that'sdefinitely possible.
But if you look at the way thattheir tent is set up, most
nights like they have takenpictures of their tent and it
has the stove inside of the tentwith the chimney, and it's very
much so a thing rigged up bythe leader.
What was his name?
Again, we'll dial off.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
Igor, yeah, igor.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
That was his stove, his rig.
It was his own little customsetup, and what it is is
basically embers inside of thischamber.
That funnels the smoke into achimney type thing, and then,
when you take it down for thenight, all you do is you just
take the chimney and you takethat inside and close up the
hole that it comes out of.
Right, so there should be nosmoke at that point, though it
should be put out.

(01:08:08):
Well, what may have happenedand what this documentary went
into, which I can source it realquick?
That was a lamino.
It's called the Diet Love PassCase 7.2 million views on
YouTube.
Really, really good, very nobullshit documentary, just
straight facts, which I reallyliked.
But he goes.
The most likely reason that theywould have to leave that tent

(01:08:29):
is from, like smoke inhalationvery quick, but they were all
going to bed.
They had already taken thechimney down.
There wasn't supposed to be anyembers in the fire.
Now you know how one singlelittle tiny ember can start to
slowly build up and then it getsreal smoky.
He thinks that they got smokedout of the tent and it happened
very quick, not enough to causeany serious smoke inhalation
stuff, other than on a few ofthem where they found blood

(01:08:51):
around the mouths which iscaused by smoke inhalation and
stuff.
But like so very, very quickly,they had to cut their tent open
because they couldn't find thefucking exit, because there was
smoke throughout the tent.
And you could also say somebodythrew in something that was on
fire into the chimney hole orwhatever, and that's what caused
the smoke and that's thecriminal intent, so to speak.
You know, but he thinks thatthey got smoked out of the tent.

(01:09:13):
That's why they had to cut itopen and run out with nothing on
and that's why they couldn't goback in to get their shit.
So that's one theory that Ithink is kind of valid.
There are obviously some holesin it, such as why wasn't the
tent burned down?
Yada, yada, yada, it was acontrolled fire.
It wasn't like it fell out ofthe stove or anything, but you

(01:09:34):
know.
So that's just one littletheory that I have on it.
I feel like makes sense as towhy they would cut their way out
instead of leaving through thetent entrance.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
I don't know, because it's really small, though you
know it's not a big tent.
I mean it's long.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
Well, yeah, that means it wouldn't take long to
fill up with smoke.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
But and then also in their autopsies, like there's no
blood around the mouth butthere's nothing, as if they had
hailed any kind of smoke or gasbecause they tested for that,
because of possible gas bombs.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
There's also a lot of things that weren't included in
the autopsies or like that werekind of vague in the autopsies
and stuff like that.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
There's a combination of all ofthese different theories.
You know.
There's all sorts of differentshit that's going on with this
with the military, with theMonzi people, with that kind of
stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
It's just it's wild, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
No one will really ever fucking know.
That's true.
That is true Because decadeshave passed and investigations
continue, each re-examinationadding new perspectives but
failing to provide a definitiveresolution.
The truth behind the DyatlovPass incident remains elusive, a
haunting testament to thelimits of our understanding and
the enduring allure of anunsolved mystery Just keeps

(01:10:46):
coming back as one of those likecrazy ass unsolved mysteries of
history dude.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
There's so many, and I just, man, I don't, it's just,
I don't want to die that way,man no no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
I don't want to die that way.
It sounds like absolutely nofun.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
I just heart attack, bring it on.
That's how I want to go quickand easy.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
Yeah, in my sleep I just want to die in my sleep of
old age.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
That's all I want Now .
Oh, oh, one of the YuriKrivenchenko.
So he was kind of the comedianof the group.
He was just like a jokester.
Well, he actually, when theywere at their stop about to
board the train, he got fuckingarrested.
Because they were, because hewanted to get food and one of
the girls had the money for thegroup.

(01:11:28):
She was, like, you know, thefinancier of it, and so he was
like, oh, let's just give ussome money so that we can go and
get some, like you know, somejunk food or whatever.
She's like no, like thatdoesn't whatever.
Like just being silly.
And so he was.
He continued to be silly and hestarted to go around
panhandling, but like making funof it Right like as a joke
being at college, yeah, you knowand he got arrested by the

(01:11:51):
Soviet military and the grouphad to go up and like actually
get him out.
Get him out when they were likethey talked to the guy and like,
look, he's just he's kiddingaround, we're going to this
really cool adventure.
He's just excited, but it'ssuper risky to be doing this,
it's illegal to panhandle andthen you get arrested by a
Soviet officer and you gostraight to a fucking gulag.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
Yeah, or you go to fucking prison.
That's how you go to disappeartown.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
That's how you disappear.
That's how you disappear.
Oh, and another thing Duba Nina.
She was a bad bitch too, theone with the missing tongue.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
Yeah, she was the one who like got shot and
apologized for getting shot.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
Like got shot on a previous expedition by some,
accidentally by a hunter, andshe apologized to the rest of
the group about getting shotLike sorry guys, so sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
I know I'm a nuisance .

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
And the guy who had the pictures on him was Simone
Zolotarov.
He was a 37 year old.
In the group he was a World WarII vet, and so when they dug
him up, they actually found thecamera around his neck, and 34
pictures were found on the film.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
Yeah.
And that's where the pornlights are the Yeti thing, and
then all the other pictures thatwe see until the which also
puts a hole in the hole, likesmoking the tent theory too,
because he had the wherewithalto grab the camera.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Like so it's I don't know, it'sjust weird.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
There's just every.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
Cause if it was people, there's nothing complete
.
There's all these little dotsthat are like well, maybe this
happened and they're likeradiation.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
You're like fuck yeah .

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
And it's like if they heard people scaring them
outside the tent, he wouldprobably grab the camera and try
and catch a picture of them,just in case they did fucking
kill them?

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
Yeah, cause he's 37.
He's a World War II vet.
Yeah, he's smart.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
He wants to take that photo so that after they're all
dead they find the fuckingcamera Exactly, and there's
photo evidence.
So like there's all sorts ofdifferent, so many things, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
It's just I.
Oh man, it's creepy, it's crazy.
We'll never fucking know.
Yeah, yeah, oh.
And then there's also somecrazy-esque like cyclone
incident, like a theory of wherethe winds match up perfectly
into this, like type of cyclone,where it creates the sound that
drives the human body intohysteria, and like nausea,

(01:14:02):
nausea.
And then like maybe this soundhyper focused on exactly where
the tent was and it drove themall madly insane.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
Could you?

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
imagine Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
So cyclone clums in and hits them all with a brown
note and just Right, just sensethem out, jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
Oh man, well, that's the fucking Diet Love Pass
incident.
Yeah, sorry for no like realanswers, but a little bit more
explanation onto what theconspiracies are derived from, I
feel like.
So you know there is that wewill be taking a little bit of a
break.
We're going to be back at theend of February.
We need some break, a littlebreak.
So thank you all for stickingaround for this.

(01:14:40):
I'm so fucking excited to comeback with the stories.
Oh, cooper's got plans, I gotplans.
Doug, I got plans, I got plans.
Go, follow us on all the socialbullshit.
You can find all of those linkson
drinkingourwaythroughhistorycom.
And Ian, do you have anythingfor the?

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
kids.
If you made it this far, you'rea fucking champion.
But you already knew that,because you make it to the end
of every episode, don't you,don't you?
And then you hit that likebutton and you hit that
subscribe button, don't you?
Yeah, you do, yeah, you do,yeah, you do you.
Awesome champion, you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
Oh well, all right, Stay beautiful bitches, Because
we fucking love you.
We love you.

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