November 17, 2023 • 48 mins
Sit back and relax folks, because we're about to embark on a captivating journey through history, warfare, climate engineering, and secretive society mysteries, all while sipping on a delightful Sauvignon Blanc. We'll take you back to the Elizabethan age where the drama between royal half-sisters Queen Mary and Elizabeth unfolds, and celebrate the birth of Tiberius, son of Augustus, and his impact on the Roman Empire. Curious about the transition from primitive skirmishes to organized conflicts? We've got you covered, as we delve into the various historical massacres across Kenya, Austria, Germany, and Spain, and the technological advancements in weaponry.
But wait, there's more! We'll navigate the controversial waters of climate engineering, discussing the potential solutions to slow down the ice melt in western Antarctica. We'll unpack two theoretical climate engineering techniques, stratospheric aerosol injection and marine cloud lightening, all while taking into account the associated risks and potential complications. Then we'll dive deep into the secretive world of the Nizaris, an ancient society that you'll find has a rather surprising link to the popular video game, Assassins Creed. We're just as intrigued as you are!
Lastly, as we swirl our glasses and pour out the last drops of our Sauvignon Blanc, we'll uncover the fascinating cultural significance of Attenborough's long-beaked echidna, one of the five egg-laying mammal species in the world that has not been seen in 60 years. We'll also explore some of the most bizarre news stories happening around the world, and yes, we'll be talking about tree shrimp! So come on over, sit back, and join us as we combine history, science, and a few quirky bits to make your listening experience a truly enjoyable one. We promise you won't regret it!
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
It's so loud.
Check, we're doing somethingdifferent, are we we?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
are Shit dude.
I thought we were going to talkabout history.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Oh, we're talking about history today.
That is a for sure thing.
It's literally in the title ofthe podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
We have to talk about history, that is true.
We are going to go ahead anddrink our way through history.
Speaking of taking a drink meal, chap, I think it's time we
take our shot, our shot of wine.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Well, first, ladies and gentlemen, why this is
different today is because thisis called a thimble of whiskey.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yes, yes, yes, so we're drinking wine for the
thimble of whiskey, which isfine.
It actually is a good symbolfor this podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
It's really nice.
Honestly, I could use thelightness of this beautiful
sauvignon blanc.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yes, yes, some savagene blanc, yes, cheers.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Cheers, sir Chink Chink chink, chink chink.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I don't think we could say that more, though.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Well, now you made it racist.
As soon as you say it anothertime, it becomes very racist.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
We were clinking.
Clink, that's what we werelooking for.
Shit Fucking Christ, start over.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
No, start over Shit Now.
We're just known as racists.
It's as easy as that.
It's as easy as that.
That's how it gets cancelled,and a thimble of whiskey episode
is what we do.
Tell them Is we are going to,instead of telling an entire
story of a specific place,spectacle, event, person, we are
(02:09):
going to dive into somearticles, history related and
things that we find entertaining.
Yeah, yeah, and I was out oftown this week and is what
happens?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
The face you had on your head.
It was so sad and disappointing.
It was very because I was just.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I love doing this shit, yeah, I just didn't have
the time to actually like geteverything together and Well, if
you're religious, about theFriday releases.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Religious, yes, about the Friday releases.
Because this is the key, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, consistency is key, exactly.
I was like I'm going to do thisshit and I was so upset earlier
.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
He spent all day working on this script that we
are going to use next week.
We'll talk about it next week,but he worked on this script all
day.
And then he was like he came tomy room and he was so sad and
he's got his little pouty faceon and he's like hey man, I
don't think I can get this donein time.
He only had to his credit 24hours to write an entire script.
Yeah, and I look at him and I'mlike bro and I have a job.
(03:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I mean, guess what?
We also have jobs, yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
So I look at him, I'm like, bro, let's just do a
thimble of whiskey, do a thimble.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Just a little bit.
If you've been a long time fanof the show, now like six months
now I think we're at Wow, Iknow, shout out.
Six months is that unlike ourfirst episode we talked about
potentially involving a thimbleof whiskey episode and kind of
as a breather for me and mybrain.
But I mean it's going to beincorporated into.
(03:47):
We'll do it more and more, butit's with our regular scheduled
show.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
These are my favorite episodes, like I love.
I love the other episodes, andto say that this is more my
favorite is saying a lot becauseI do love the other episodes.
But these are just fun.
We get to just chill, have aconversation about some really
cool shit.
Yes, drink a little bit.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
And I'm so.
It's nice to take a load offCooper.
Take a load off Randy.
Is that how the song goes?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I think so.
Yeah, I have never heard thatbefore in my life.
It goes definitely different,but it's fine oh good, good,
cooper, do you have somethingthat happened today in history?
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Do I have something that happened?
Oh, like what happened today inhistory, because I have two
things.
Do you have two?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
things I do.
I have two things that happened.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Are you going off of history channel or are you going
off of Britannica I?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
don't remember, but they're different.
I had to scroll away to findthem because I thought they were
cool.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Okay, I mean okay.
So I will tell you whathappened today in history.
If this, okay, yeah.
So today this is Thursday.
Before the Friday release isNovember 16th the Elizabethan
age begins in 1558.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Wow, shout out home girl Elizabeth.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Well, ian, actually, oh Well, actually, no, you're
right.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I was like I swear to God.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I swear to God, queen Mary the first, the monarch of
England in Ireland, ireland,ireland, since 1553 dies and is
succeeded by her 25 year oldhalf sister, elizabeth Wow, and
now the two half sisters, bothdaughters of King Henry the
eighth, had a stormyrelationship during Mary's five
(05:37):
year reign.
Mary, who's brought up to be asa Catholic, enacted pro
Catholic legislation and madeefforts to restore the Pope to
supremacy in England.
Ah yes, the Pope.
Now there's a lot that morethat goes into this and why I
won't read this whole damn thing.
But this is the beginning ofthe Elizabethan age in 1558 of
(06:03):
November 16th.
Ian, did you have something morecrazy than that?
Yeah, I didn't pick that.
You didn't pick that.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
That was this is a big deal, it's a big deal, it's
a big deal.
All right, it's definitely abig deal, I so I thought this
was kind of cool.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
He was like I didn't pick something boring.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So I picked two things because I thought they
were kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Tiberius, the son of Augustus.
It was born today on 42 BCE.
Those of you who aren'tfamiliar with Augustus the big
ups, augustus yeah.
I think Cooper can tell youabout who Augustus is very
briefly on the spot right now.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
It's very second.
No, no, no, you can.
It's all you.
You're the one who found this.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Well, he, basically he, he uh, not preceded, he post
seated Julius Caesar.
That's not a word, but that'swhat he did.
Right, he was right afterJulius.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
This is Mark Antony oh after.
I could be completely wrong onthat be after Mark Anthony,
because Mark Anthony wasn'taround much longer, so they're
both having.
They were both in arelationship.
Yeah, cleopatra, gustus couldhave been right after that, okay
, okay, or Gus is turned intowhat I don't know.
(07:15):
They all changed their nameswhen they became emperor.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I know that's what Either way.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
We all know Augustus.
We covered him in the episode.
We covered him in the RomanEmpire.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
We did, we did so.
His son was born 42 BCE.
I thought that was pretty cool.
And then Cala Kaua, the lastking and second to last monarch
of Hawaii, was born in 1874.
Oh, that's dope, yeah what did.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I did anything, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
What I wanted to say was I had no idea that there
were monarchies in Hawaii.
I didn't I.
That was something that I justhad never even thought about.
But apparently, yeah, they had,kings, they had.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, I was gonna say yeah, yeah, definitely
monarchies beforehand.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah, the white guy like kings in fucking 1874 to
1891, which he was the second tolast monarch, so I'm assuming
there was a queen after him.
But he, like that's Relativelyover the course of what we talk
about on this podcast.
That's pretty recent.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, I was gonna say when did America?
Speaker 2 (08:14):
induct Hawaii.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, I don't know producer.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Can you look that up for us in America?
Producer.
Hawaii in In 1898, oh see, andit must have been.
That was the monarch.
So he died in 91.
Wow, yeah.
And then, I guess, the queentook over and only lasted a few
years.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Geez interesting apparently resulted from
economic integration and therise of the United States as a
Pacific power.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Mmm Pacific power.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I like to call that Pee Pee yeah we are now a pee
pee, all right, so that's,that's how we.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Stop it.
So that's how we start theseepisodes, right?
We talk about.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Well, wait, what happened on the day that the
episodes can be released?
I didn't come up with that one.
Do you have one?
I'll find one, cuz I mean whathappens?
What happened, oh?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, both of all of mine were in reference to Today
usually there's this.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
This history page, usually, is supposed to allow me
to go into a specific date.
Here we go, the 17th, but wait,okay, the recent history.
In 2003, on the day thisepisode is relief, aren't Arnold
Schwarzenegger is inauguratedas governor of California.
(09:33):
Nice, I'll be back, I'll beback get through the chopper.
I love it.
Oh, and then a diocletian wasacclaimed Roman Empire by
soldiers in 284.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
He is deocletian deocletian, if I'm not mistaken.
Yes, interesting, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, boom.
I always, I always like hearingthose facts, because it's like
it just makes you think, it'slike ah, it's just a day like
today.
It's a day like today.
Like today, this crazy fuckingthing happened.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
So, yeah, that's how we start these episodes now, ian
, you have some interestingtopics.
Do you want to?
Do you want to start us offwith something good, or do you
want me to go first?
Um, I can start us off.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
But then you got to go twice in a row because I got
a real kicker.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
I was gonna say so let let's go ahead, and let me
start with Something okay, okay,I know you got a kicker.
You haven't told me the details.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I haven't told you shit, bro.
I'm excited, I'm so excited.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
So we're gonna start out, you know what?
Because we talk quite a bit,especially in the last episode,
about Wars war.
So I found this article thatwas recently released, on the
6th of this month, about whendid humans start Waging war,
which is second they were born,the second they were born.
(10:49):
Now, of course, it talks aboutthat people have been fighting
forever and people have beenkilling people for like
organized war, organized whatyou're talking about.
Okay, okay, yeah, and so youknow.
Archaeology, archaeologicalevidence suggests that Neolithic
warfare progressed fromsmall-scale clashes and
massacres to longer and moresophisticated conflicts About
(11:12):
like 10,000 years ago now.
What they describe, how theydescribe it prior to that, is
like chimpanzees fighting eachother.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, well, I mean, it was basically.
That's basically what it was.
Yes, was barely evolved humans.
Yeah right, throwing stones ateach other, stabbing each other
the faces with spears and shit,with.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
the biggest contributing factor of this is
agriculture when people startedbecoming settled into their own
areas, they're defending theirlands now.
Because they're no longer beingnomadic people.
They're starting to buildcommunities and villages.
And so around 12,000 years ago,when farming started, fights
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seemed to become bigger and moreorganized.
Now evidence shows that somefights got super serious, like a
specific massacre in Kenyawhere people were tied up and
killed.
They have the bone evidence andhow the burial, like the bones
are still tied.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I guess they didn't move them after they were dead,
probably, and they have cracksin the skull being beaten with
their blood into death.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Dying 12,000 years ago has got to be rough.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, especially because it's so fucking easy to
do that.
You get a cut on your finger,it gets infected.
Surprise, you're dead, you'redead.
They did have better immunesystems.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
And also when it's night.
It's really fucking night.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
You gotta think about the starlight and moonlight and
stuff like that.
It was a lot more clear backthen.
And there are a lot of placeswhere in the world where there's
not a lot of air pollution andyou go to them at night, it is
actually very well lit.
Not well lit, it's dimly litbut it's good enough that you
can see.
But I will say, on a cloudynight, you're fucked.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
That is true.
Now, as time kept going through, there's obviously these little
pockets of massacres.
There's quite a bit thathappened in Austria and fucking
Germany Quite a bit of.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
War started in Germany.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
No, so as time passed , they got even more complex.
About 5,000 years ago, a groupin Spain had a conflict that had
, I guess the archaeologistswere able to determine that
these battles started lasting 8to 20 days, and it was more of a
siege and coming in and itwasn't massacring hundreds of
(13:38):
people, it was like 20 to 40people.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Well, there weren't even communities of hundreds of
people that much no, or at leastcommunities of hundreds of
warriors.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Well, there were 5,000 years ago there were oh
5,000.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
I thought we were still talking about 10,000.
Oh yeah, no, no, no, I meanit's 5,000 because we went like
12,000 to 5,000.
Is when we start seeing morelong-gated battles.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah, yeah, and so that's when People got smarter
and then people got meaner.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yeah, because these little communities in Austria
and Germany and stuff startedpopping up walls and then you
see it throughout Asia andeverything around these
communities and they fought overresources and probably had just
regular disagreements and it,like most likely never, was just
a quick battle.
It was a siege now, but it wasnot nearly as organized, but it
started becoming more.
(14:21):
And we talked about in theBattle of Agencourt is how the
evolution of warfare has beenlike, especially in proper war
and battles, how it was soproper.
Yeah, it was very formal,formal, exactly, and now it's
just guerrilla.
Well, there's guerrilla warfare, then there's.
I mean, basically that's all itis nowadays.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah, nowadays it is definitely just guerrilla
warfare, even in, like, whenthere's tribal battles and stuff
like that over in Africa orwherever there might be a tribe,
it's very much so stillguerrilla warfare there's not a
lot of honor in war anymore.
No, no.
In fact, I would say thatthere's no honor in war anymore.
Not with what we're fuckingseeing Now piss us off enough,
We'll drop a nuke on you Likeit's.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Did you know?
Right now there are 32countries in active warfare.
That's crazy, 32 countries.
Now, as farming got better, sodid the fighting, because more
food, you can have more energy.
And then, with better tools andorganized groups, wars became
larger.
Places like Mesopotamia andEgypt had big armies with
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leaders and plans for battle.
People even made drawings ofyou know.
They started just becoming moreelaborate and so humans
probably just started fightingin bigger and more organized
ways during the time whenfarming became more common and
which led to more complex.
War is driven by food, sir.
Yeah, it is just a naturalresource.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
We've always been fighting for fucking resources,
dude when you're going back tothat stat that you just said.
I got a little quiet therebecause I want to look something
up.
16% of the world, that is oh 32countries yeah 16.4% of the
world.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Sir, we are on the cusp of World War III.
Oh, easily.
I mean, we just had the Chinesepresident Xi.
He just came over, he was inCalifornia, met with the
California governor and thenfucking Biden just saw him and
then by them just called him adictator again as he left.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Ah, classic dictators .
We don't need to get anycurrent.
I know what's happening rightnow, though that's about to
happen, man, this is an escapefor people, Cooper.
It's an escape for people wedon't need to talk about world
politics.
All right, so fighting's beengoing on forever.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
We're definitely going to keep fighting.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, it's never going to stop, and the weapons
that we use nowadays are justgetting so much worse.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
So what did Albert Einstein say?
I don't know what the next warwill be fought with, but the one
after that will be fought withsticks and stones.
Yeah, I mean fuck dude, he'snot wrong.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
He's not wrong, okay.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Is that when war started?
That's yep, that's war 10,000years ago.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
I'm not surprised that it was so long ago, because
I figured that it would havestarted a lot earlier, but
people have been killing eachother since the start.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
But organized warfare still 10,000 years.
That's a long fucking time.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah, and they're classifying like massacres in
there as well.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Right, right, right, yeah, yeah that makes sense On
the other side of things.
Let's talk about the climate.
Love that.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I know, I know, I regret a Thunberg hit me.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
So I think this is kind of cool and also super
fucking scary, which is why Iwant to talk about it.
Okay, Climate engineering couldslow Antarctic ice loss.
Right?
It's not a new theory.
It's an old theory, been aroundfor a long time, but they're
starting to try it.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Climate engineering.
So Indiana University iscurrently doing the study.
Right, they want to scattersunlight reflecting particles
into the atmosphere, which is,you know, like a theoretical
form of climate engineering,notice, like stratospheric
aerosol injection, and theythink that that can slow the ice
melts in Western Antarctica,right, really, yeah, so it's
(17:52):
kind of mimics, like whathappens when a large volcano
spews vast amounts of particlesinto the upper atmosphere and
causes a cooling effect that canlast months to years, right?
So they're trying to use thatsame theory and injecting it
into you know, hopefully whatwould be harmless particles
going into the sky to reflectthe sunlight away from us.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Oh, so this is like preventative of like a future
solar flare.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yeah, I mean, it's literally.
Well, it's to say, the ice capsis their main goal.
I'm sure that they couldconcentrate it if they needed to
Like, if the science got farenough, they could probably
concentrate it and actually helpstop the effects of a solar
flare.
But it's not there yet.
We're just talking about actualglobal warming.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
So what we're going to do is we're going to shoot
these little particles up in theair and they're going to bounce
UV rays back at the sun or justaway from Earth, away from.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Earth.
Yeah, so it's basically like ashield going up around us, which
is scary yeah.
Because think about that.
There's just that that's, inintroducing a particle into the
air, you have to be so fuckingcareful of what particle you're
using and you have to do so muchresearch into the long term
effects of that, and they're noteven thinking that they could
even start trying to do it until2035.
Like and if not a decade more.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Oh think about the mice that are dying because
they're testing this.
Oh God, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
For the love of God.
So it was actually recentlydiscussed in a White House
report.
So this is really very legit.
Yeah it out.
It outlined like a potentialresearch program on
stratospheric aerosol injection,and then something else.
I believe it was called cloudlightning, marine cloud
lightning.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Marine cloud.
What so you like?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
not lightning like snap, it's lightning like the
lightning, the color.
So it's reflects the sunlight.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, so they're thinking about throwing
clouds, nemo dude, I don't know,and that's what's so fucking
scary about it.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
To be fair, the scientists that are working on
this stuff are being super,super careful, like they very
much so understand the risks andthey're taking it very, very
slow.
But with the current climatesituation and how we're
approaching these certaindeadlines where we're supposed
to get the, you know the, the,the, basically get shit under
control a little bit as far aswhat are they called?
(20:00):
When, like cars emissions, likegetting I mean, I was like yeah
, that's.
I was procrastinating on sayingthe word because I couldn't
remember it, but like if wedon't get all of that shit under
control within the next decade,we cross a certain threshold
and shit starts to get bad.
And so it's very likely thatwe're not going to do that.
Right it's.
It's become so likely thatwe're not going to do that that
(20:20):
we're looking at throwingfucking particles into the
goddamn atmosphere.
What are these particles madeof?
I couldn't find that out.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
And I tried.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I tried which scares me more because, it's like
they're not even putting that inthe which, to be fair, they're
probably just protecting theirresearch so that somebody else
doesn't do it, and they want tobe the ones to probably need
help.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
The earth is big.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
I mean it's Indiana University, cooper.
They're pretty renowned.
Hey if Indiana comes around andsaves the whole goddamn planet.
I'm there for it.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Team Indiana.
All the way, bro Brothers, Ialways forget Indiana is a state
.
I always think it's a city.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
I'm sorry to all my Indiana people, but I think it's
a part of Louisiana.
Don't be sorry, I don't know.
I don't even know where exactly.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
It is Somewhere in the south, I think it's like I
don't even know Like it's.
It's somewhere in the Midwestit is.
You could circle the wholeMidwest and it's it's somewhere
in there.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
No shit.
I think, Dude we are from theMidwest, I don't hold on.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Look up a fucking picture of where Indiana is US
state.
I could have sworn it wassouthern like near Louisiana.
Oh, it's next to Illinois, soit's actually more the East
Coast yeah.
Ok, it's kind of right.
Let's got any inapolis in itright next to I knew that
useless Ohio.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah, classic Ohio, classic Ohio.
We're just dissing on everysingle state right now.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
We don't like is the fact that, like Indiana,
michigan, wisconsin, ohio, theycall themselves Midwest Very
much a Midwest.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
They're not the Midwest, the Middle East, but we
can't take that turn.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
They are the Middle East because they're still east
of the Mississippi.
We can't say that, though, yes,we can.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
We don't have a Middle East in the United States
, Cooper.
We do no, but what do you everrefer to it?
It's the middle of the Eastside of the country.
It is.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
No one has ever referred to it as the Middle
East.
You're the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Canceled, canceled, so yeah we're a long way from
this.
The projections kind of look atimplementation around 2035,
maybe a decade further than that, and they still don't know.
What's kind of crazy about thisis.
They still don't know if it'senough like to combat the
effects of humanity on theatmosphere and climate.
But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
A bunch of fucking particles up in the air.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
To be fair in theory, it totally would work If they
use the right substance and itdoes reflect the light.
Scientifically it's going towork.
Yeah, that's just the facts.
Now what happens when theseparticles fall back to earth?
Where do they land?
What do?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
they do, kind of what I'm thinking too.
That's the thing, and it's likeare we going to have like a
radioactive like cloud that'sjust going around right Acid
rain at us?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Right, I mean, but it's either that.
So think about this, though Tenof the hottest years on record
ever occurred over the last 14years.
That's including 2023, which ison track to take 2016 spot as
the hottest year ever recordedever.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Oh shit.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Yeah.
So it's like do you die byradiation?
Do you die by solar power?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Do you die by America's processed food?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Dude smoking cancer COVID.
I mean, there's all sorts ofdifferent things you can die
from in this world and you know,I would rather it be airborne
particles of us at least trying,than us just all melt.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
No, because you know how much worse of a death that
probably is than melting.
I think I might rather melt,dude, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I don't.
Hopefully it's quicker.
Whichever one's quicker, I'mgoing to take that one.
I think it's going to bemelting.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Yeah, you're going to just suffer with that.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
It's either you melt or you're going to get the black
lung.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Oh yeah, because it would be.
It would be a slow, it wouldn'tbe immediate, right, it's a
gradual process.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah, black lung.
Yeah, oh, no, tiny Tim, no,it's a Zoolander.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
So that's yes, I know it was Zoolander but also tiny
Tim because you said pa.
But yeah, so that's mine.
On the particles, that was myscience one which I think is
very fucking interesting becauseyou got to think about it.
If they do implement this, thatcan have catastrophic effects
for the entire globe.
So what country is going to doit?
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Like, who's going to do that?
Because you have to.
You're affecting everybody.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
By doing it, I was going to say it's up in the air,
it goes where the wind goes.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
That's a NATO decision, or like a, like a I
don't even know, because there'sso many other parts of the
world that aren't even a part ofit.
Like it's just crazy and likeso you got to think about it.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Because what if all the particles come down and they
just land in the, like theocean and like that, the Nemo
spot where all the asteroids, orasteroids, the satellites,
crash into?
You know it's, it's the mostremote part of the ocean, where
it's farther, it's the farthestpoint away from any point of
land.
Yeah, when they crash land allthe satellites.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Oh, I didn't know that was a thing that's crazy In
the middle of the ocean, noshit.
So I could sail a boat to apoint in the ocean and find some
fucking satellites if I scubadive.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah, you got to dive deep, deep.
Ok, maybe, maybe a submarineyeah we don't want to be Ocean
Gate, we don't want to.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Yeah, it'd have to be , I would use more than an Xbox
controller to control it.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Yeah, yeah, I don't want to just lose trust enough.
I'll go out there and I'llwatch it come down.
How about?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
that Even better.
With our luck, though, it wouldhit us Fuck.
Wouldn't that suck.
I don't know what a way to go.
What a way If I had to picksolar radiation, radiation from
particles in the atmosphere or asatellite falling on my head, I
know which one I'd choose.
Yeah, I'll take the satelliteAll day, all day.
Fun little sidebar here,actually.
While I was looking through forarticles, I found this little
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article speaking of space junk.
There's a toolbox floatingthrough space.
Now why?
Because the astronauts lost atoolbox while they were doing a
spacewalk, while they weretrying to make some repairs, so
they lost a little toolbox.
So there's just a little toolboxfloating around up there Float
Slowly making its way back toEarth, and then it's going to
crash and disintegrate.
Yeah, it'll totallydisintegrate, oh yeah
immediately, like as soon as ithits the atmosphere.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Within 10 seconds it'll be gone, oh yeah, but it's
just cute little flares, it'sjust floating up there right now
Fun facts.
Yeah, I thought that was cuteLittle less it know it has a
fiery death.
Yeah, yeah, don't we all?
Don't we all the toaster thatcould, the little toaster movie,
that's what it reminds me of,except it's going to die toolbox
, flying hundreds of miles anhour.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
So what's your?
What's your second articlethere, cooper?
What are we?
Speaker 1 (26:40):
getting into.
Well, you know that.
Well, obviously you know.
But I think the fans know alsothat we like video games.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
So we fucking love video games.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
We've talked about a couple of them We've talked
about a couple of.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
We talked about one in particular.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
pretty often, I think , pretty often and this article
that I found on the smith'ssmith's the Smith's Moe and Moe
and the Smith's Moe and.
Sony and magazine Dot com, themedieval sect that inspired the
video game Assassins Creed.
Are you, are you excited, dude?
I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
OK, that was my speechless moment, because I've
always wondered this and Ialways have my ideas right.
It's the Illuminati, it's.
It's the Templars, it's the,it's the fucking that, one of
the one, the Masons, shit likethat Right.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Who is it?
It's not, it's not.
It's based off of the groupcalled the Nizaris.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Oh, you know what I've heard, the name.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Are you?
I believe it's called theNizaris.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
I've heard the name.
I'm not too familiar with whatthey did.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
So the, the, the history about them is pretty
like they don't really know.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Yeah, well, yeah, it's a secret society An ancient
secret society.
So if you're trying to hideyour shit back, then no way we
know now.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
So they were part of a larger Muslim community in
like way back when early daysand they did things like
political assassinations andthey were killing like political
, like kings and queens andfucking emperors.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
So, for context, are we, are we basing them off of
the Assassin's Guild or off ofthe Templars Templars in
Assassin's Creed.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Anybody who doesn't know the game will care, but I'm
going to say the fucking.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
I mean, they sound like bad guys.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
The Templar?
No, I don't know the temp,maybe the Templars.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Maybe they could also be the Assassin's Guild,
because if they're doingpolitical assassinations also at
the same time, like, like theyjust don't know.
They just don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
And they also say, like Assassin's Creed has taken
a lot of creative liberties, ofcourse, of course, naturally Of
this.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
So they could have just put a twist on them and
made them kind of quote unquote,the protagonist of the series.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, yeah.
Absolutely.
And so the where is it?
Because Marco Polo is kind ofno shit With this, so it's
because of his travels when hewas on the Silk Road, and Dude.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
What happens on the Silk Road stays on the Silk Road
.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Except for my spices.
You would buy my spices now,and my silk blankets.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
The account of the assassins provided by Marco.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Polo upon his return to Venice in 1295, fascinated
European orientals andcontributed to fanciful tales.
However, medieval Muslimwritings held a hostile view of
the Nazaris, considering them aschismatic and problematic group
within the Muslim community andthe group within the Muslim
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community.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
So they're controversial.
It's totally based off theassassins.
It's totally the assassins.
It's not the Templars Okay,it's gotta be the assassins.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Yeah, then that makes sense.
Yeah, very controversial.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, very controversial.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Now this article is great.
It goes into like so muchdetail that I didn't like I was
like I need anything.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
We need to do a whole episode on them.
Honestly, that's kinda cool.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
This is cool.
There's a lot of names that Icouldn't pronounce.
Naturally so we're good at that.
Yeah, very good, very good.
But I feel like to the point ofjust being offensive if I tried
.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
We can go with just first names or nicknames even.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Man, they're difficult yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
They're so what they do.
They did politicalassassinations.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Well, so the history of the Nazaris begins with the
Islamis.
It's a Shiite group tracing itsorigins to the Ismal Ibn Jafar,
so it's a Muslim sect.
I think you nailed it, thankyou.
Now missionaries spread theirfaith across the Islamic world.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
The missionary spread if you know what I'm saying
Islamic missionaries.
Sorry sorry God, it's just theway you said it, I could have
known myself.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Now they've spread their faith across the Islamic
world, leading to theestablishment of the Fitimid
Caliphate in 909.
Okay, despite the Fatimidexpansion, conflicts and
disputes arose within the Muslimworld, ultimately resulting in
a split within the Islamiccommunity.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
That's the schism factor when it comes to like
what people were talking about,the Muslim community was talking
about with them, which you said.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Yes, they were schismatic.
Now the emergence of HassanSabah.
I'm not quite sure who he was,who is, what he did.
Was he converted to Islam andthen played a pivotal role in
the formation of the Nazaristate?
Okay, oh, there was like astate.
Yeah Well, I mean, I reallydon't know.
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I don't know enough about theMuslim culture.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
That's totally fair.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
So he ended up seizing this castle.
Okay, and it was a big deal.
It was like a really big dealand everybody really liked this
castle and it marked thefoundation of the Nazari in
Persia.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I mean, I like castles.
I get that, I get that.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
I feel that I'm relating.
So Hassan and his successorsinitiated armed revolts against
the Sunni I can't even say someof these names because the Sunni
rulers employing tactics suchas small scale attacks, castle
captures and political motivatedassassinations.
All right.
Now this article discusses thesplit within the Islamic
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community following thesuccession crisis between the
Nazar and the Mastali I thinkthat's what their name is.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
I think you're doing splendid and I think you've
apologized enough that no one'sgoing to be offended.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
So it basically like this castle started their own
kingdom in Persia.
Right, they get sick.
That's kind of fucking sick.
So one castle and they're likenow we are kings.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, we founded a castle.
Would we not be kings?
Let's be honest, we would.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
So they became specifically famous for their
political assassinations, likethat was just their go to.
They were the hit man of thefucking 1000s.
All right, this made peoplefrom other places, like all over
Europe, tell stupid wildstories about them, basically
exacerbating their stories andjust like all of a sudden became
like the myth.
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Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Like you ever played the game telephone where you
whisper into I'm not, I'mexplaining it for them.
Oh, okay, yeah, but yeah, it'slike you whisper, that is true
you start with a sentence andthen you whisper that sentence
into your homie's ear and thenhe looks at his homie next on
the other side of them andwhispers this tries to whisper
the same sentence and you dothat through 20 people and by
the end of it it's a completelydifferent fucking sentence.
Yes, that's essentially whathappens with myths and legends
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and things like that.
Things get exaggerated overtime Through the grapevine.
Through the grapevine.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Now people have totally different opinions about
them, either like somethingthat they were early terrorists,
and others kind of think ofthem as a more positive culture
of like they were taking outdictators and horrible
oppressors of people things likethat.
So overall, the Nazarets were agroup of people from the 1000s
(33:55):
early 1000s.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Gotta keep it at 1000s.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
And, honestly, it's just still debated to this day.
But it's kind of cool that,like it was this potential group
of people who never even wrotedown their own history and we're
just rumored about.
They were talked about peoplein the shadows.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Well, it's literally the assassins.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
It's literally.
That's great.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Which is fucking which is so sick to me.
Yeah, I hope they're stillaround.
I hope they are because they'reprobably doing good.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
There's a sect in the muzzle, or in the muzzle in the
Mormon community.
When Joseph Smith okay.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Well, if they became Mormons, I don't know how I feel
anymore.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
They did the same thing.
They were like the Mormonassassins.
They know shit.
Yeah, Mormons had assassins.
Mormons had assassins brotherWild West was crazy, did I
fucking?
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Yeah, I just.
I just grew to like Mormons somuch more bro.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Joseph Smith I mean I like bring him young is the
asshole.
Joseph Smith was the crazymotherfucker that yeah, his ass
off, yeah, and all the shit, andthen he had a sect of fucking
assassins.
Basically, it's yeah, fuckingcrazy.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
That is wild, so it's cool like that.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
They, yeah, I don't know.
I just kind of found itfascinating and I will be
finding some more in-depthinformation about the Nazarees.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
If we can find enough information, we should totally
do an episode on them, becausethat sounds super fun and I will
be sure to get pronunciationsbetter.
We just they're not even gonnaknow that two of us were doing.
That Sounded like one person,all right.
No, that's interesting.
You have, I got a banger yougot a banger, I got a banger,
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and it's not gonna sound like abanger at first, but just wait.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
I want to hear this banger dog.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
So I explain this to Cooper very briefly and I didn't
tell him much about it, but allI said was I found out about
this one thing and it led medown a very awesome, fun rabbit
hole.
So there's a lot about thisthat I had to dig into.
That's why I haven't cited mysources on either one of these,
because there's so many.
I went across a bunch ofdifferent articles and just
found a bunch of cool shit.
Yeah, so this one it's thetitle of the main article that
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brought me down this rabbit holewas elusive egg laying mammal
caught on camera for the firsttime in 60 years.
Okay, so I thought that wascool.
I was like, okay, interestingright one fast chicken.
It's an egg laying mammal,cooper.
Chickens are not mammals, it's,those are birds.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
One fast tube cover us, that's.
That is a mammal.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
That is a mammal?
I think no.
So there's only five types ofmammal lay or of egg laying
mammals in the world, right Okay?
Speaker 1 (36:24):
there's only five of them, ostriches.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Well, do not lay eggs snakes.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Sasquatch, you're looking for platypus.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
That is what you're looking for.
No, so Attenborough's long beakechidna or echidna right is is
how it's pronounced.
I looked up the pronunciationof what a kid.
Now it's Attenborough's longbeaked echidna right.
It's they.
Basically that's the name ofthe animal that was picked.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Oh, okay, mm-hmm Is that a platypus?
Speaker 2 (36:54):
No, it's an echidna.
It's in the same family.
So the mammalian Family treesplit off, I believe 200 million
years ago, into two differentsex egg laying mammals and Live
birth giving mammals.
And there's only five egglaying mammals left.
Oh, and the platypus is one ofthem, and then the echidnas are
one of them.
Okay now, this is the firsttime that we're seeing these
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animals in 60 years.
We kind of thought that theywere extinct.
We were.
They was on the verge of usthinking that they were gone,
mm-hmm.
So this major expedition wentinto the Cyclops Mountains in
Indonesia right now.
This sounds boring at first,but bear with me.
Now.
This is only one of five egglaying mammals.
Like I said, they live inburrows, they eat insects and
worms, and termites arecritically endangered.
Basically, it's an animal withthe spine of a hedgehog, the
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snout of an anteater in the feetof a mole right.
So yeah it's a, it's asmorgasbord of an animal.
So they this is where it kindof got cool and where I started
going down rabbit holes, uh-huh.
They hold a culturalsignificance for the people of
Yongsu Superior, who have livedin those mountains the Cyclops
Mountains in Indonesia for about18 Generations.
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Right, and the culturalsignificance of them is, rather
than fighting during conflicts,the tradition is for one party
to go into the mountains to findthe echidna, while the other
goes to the ocean to find aMarlin.
Now, both of these were sodifficult to find that it could
take decades, to even entireGenerations, what to locate one
of these, and whoever?
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whoever won won the conflict.
Whoever found it first won theconflict.
So one would go to the oceanand try to locate a Marlin, a
deep-sea fish.
Oh, they were not advancedenough to go into the deep sea.
No, so they have to find aMarlin, or they have to find an
echidna.
Now, these are all so rare itcould take literally a fucking
generation to find one.
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And then finding one ends theconflict.
So I thought that was prettycool.
But this fucking expedition,bro.
When I say this expedition wascursed, okay, this was a cursed
expedition.
First of all, they're travelingthrough a very beautiful but
super volatile landscape.
Okay, very dangerous.
There's all sorts of shitpoisonous spiders, poisonous
snakes, leopards there's that.
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I don't know if leopards arethere.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
I just made that up but there are poison there,
fucking there.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
It's, it's fucking crazy, right.
And then they're there for fourweeks they didn't spot shit.
Okay, then spot anything.
They were like whatever.
They found a few things hereand there, but nothing crazy.
They set up like 80 trail camsbut then they were forced to
evacuate due to a suddenearthquake.
So there was an earthquake andthey got a go.
They're like, oh shit, you know, I'm in fucking the middle of
nowhere, like yeah.
(39:29):
Right.
So one team member ended upbreaking his arm in two places.
Ouch, yeah, not fun in themiddle of nowhere with poisonous
spiders everywhere.
What do I think he tripped?
I think it was literally aseasy as you imagine.
Falling no, like just tripping.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
No, but it'd be so easy because there's like so
much in every way assuming andprobably like a 20, 30 year old
adult.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Yeah, on this mission and broke his arm in two places
.
Man, jesus Christ.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Yeah, push ups bro, you fucking loser.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
And they also did have guides from the local
people, right, so they actuallyhave these local guides.
This is fun fact.
This is the first expeditionever to go into these mountains
to actually deal with, likereptilian life, amphibians, and
do just a bunch of research ontoall these new animals that we
haven't really documented much.
Yeah, so we were finally ableto get in there and do that.
So, anyway, one team memberbroke his arm in two places.
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One fucking contracted malaria,jesus Christ, mm-hmm.
And then the kicker oneactually had a leech attached to
his left eye for over a day anda half.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Holy fuck, is this like the dill tough passes.
Incident light.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Possibly, man, holy shit.
So cursed expedition.
But on the last fucking day,man, on the very last day of the
expedition.
They've been four weeks outthere not finding shit.
They have 80 trail cams set up.
They could only get a few ofthem back, but it's the.
They got all the recordings.
Yeah, it's digital and it'stransferred.
You know right.
But, uh, 80 cameras on the lastday.
They spot this a kind of or howis it said?
(40:58):
It's the a kid now.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
I think it is.
Yeah, it's like it almost lookslike a porcupine, right?
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Yeah, it's got the scales of the hedgehog and the
hands are the feet of the moleand then the snout of an
anteater.
Honestly, but yeah, so on thelast day they finally see this
thing.
But not only did they find theechidna, which is huge, because
60 years Going 60 years withoutbeing photographed is crazy.
That isn't saying it's like anocean animal.
Yeah, they didn't just findthat, though.
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They also found whip scorpions.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
What the fuck is a whip scorpion?
Speaker 2 (41:31):
It's not a scorpion.
I thought these were kind ofinteresting.
They're basically mockscorpions, but they have huge
fucking.
Look up a picture of them.
They're scary, they're scary.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Right here, okay, whip scorpion, but they're not
boys.
No, oh god, no, they havereally long.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Yeah, yeah, they found a single one of those.
No trip, I'm good, it'sterrifying.
They're not poisonous to humans, they're harmless to humans.
Fun fact when they mate theyactually lock their mandibles
together so that the femalecan't eat the man after they're
done mating.
So it's like a praying mantis,but the man's developed a
defense mechanism Nature andthen.
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And then here's the cool part,man, they discovered forest
shrimp, ground and tree dwellingshrimp, what it's so humid
there and rainfall so much thatthere are forest shrimp.
Now, these are an adaptation ofa type of shrimp that is able
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to come out of the water fromfrom the ocean.
Okay, so it basically like onthe beaches and stuff like that.
They have shrimp that are ableto crawl out onto the plants and
stuff like that and kind ofsurvive a little bit above the
water.
Yeah, they got to go back inthe water.
Well, these don't do that.
They live in the trees andthere.
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And now, keep in mind thisarticle was posted yesterday, I
so.
So they just found these.
I don't know if this is aprevious discovery that they've
known about, cause there's thisthing.
I'm looking up for a shrimp andit's just showing me Bubba Gum,
shrimp yeah yeah, it's very,very recent, and so, essentially
, they live in the trees, theylive in the ground, and then, of
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course, the ground is very,very moist because they get a
ton of rainfall, so there's justenough humidity in the air for
these things to survive outsideof water.
They live on land 24 seven,which is crazy, and they're
fucking shrimp.
So that's wild.
Yeah, yeah, it's justabsolutely crazy.
And then, to kick it off, theyfound now I know that there's
these in caves.
We already knew about them incaves, but they found blind
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spiders.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Ah yeah, I've heard of blind spiders.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
Yeah, now these ones, I believe, did have eyes, but
the ones in caves actually don'thave eyes.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
You don't need them.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
You don't need them.
But yeah, so they found blindspiders, they found this echidna
, which is crazy.
They found whip scorpions,which is kind of a cool find,
and then they found thesefucking forest shrimp, which was
briefly mentioned in theinitial article, and this is
where I say this rabbit holehappened.
I saw that they briefly talkedabout the tribe that spent
generations going out to findthe echidna in a Marlin to talk
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about it.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
It's so funny that they went after a Marlin.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Instead of war, instead.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
Of war, speaking of war, Instead of war, we would go
on a scavenger hunt.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Well, it was a spiritual thing for them.
They're like whichever one ofus can find this red herring,
this white hair, the whiterabbit, so to speak, first wins
the argument, and what the shit.
But what that did was itstopped them from fucking
killing each other, and so theywould go an entire generation
(44:37):
being like.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
I don't really like these guys but that's as far as
it went.
Uncle is out there findingthese and he's been out there
for 40 years.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
You know what I mean?
Like crazy shit, yeah.
So I thought that was a verycool little tidbit Shout out to
the echidna.
That's tight, it's like we'regonna go around.
It's not dead.
We need to leave it the fuckalone.
We need to never go back tothat forest.
We need to leave it alone andlet it be, and let those
peaceful people be and nevertouch it again.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
Oh my God, I um forest fucking shrimp, Forest
shrimp.
I wonder if there's an industryfor that.
You know.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Just don't think like that.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
That's the problem with humans.
That's the problem with humans.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
All of a sudden, Long John Silver starts a new
fucking dish item and it'scalled forest shrimp.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
It's a green box.
What it's given to you.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
No, they have an actual name.
I decided to nickname themforest shrimp and the article
decided to nickname them.
They just said ground dwellingand tree dwelling shrimp.
Hmm, but it's.
They didn't give me an actualname and when I tried to look it
up, I couldn't find much aboutit.
Okay, Because, keep in mind,this is very recent shit, Right?
So I mean, obviously there'senough going on in the world
(45:46):
right now that nobody's reallygonna talk about it.
I guess this is fair yeah.
I still thought it was a prettycool little discovery.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
I fucking love it.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Yeah, dude, it's like you can spend all day talking
about all the shitty stuffthat's going on in the world and
there's this little segment ofthe planet that's got tree
shrimp and when you're sad, justthink of the tree shrimp.
You know, just think of thetree shrimp, just think of the
tree shrimp.
Think of the little tree shrimpwhen I'm stressed out, cause I
have to make 250 sales calls ina day.
I'm gonna think of the treeshrimp and I'm gonna be like be
(46:15):
like the tree shrimp Hang out,that's fair.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Yeah, that's so nice.
Well, ladies and gentlemen,that's your temple of whiskey.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
Yeah, dude, this was so fun and we should do it again
.
We should do.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Yeah, I think we should do.
We should do we should do, weshould do, yeah, yeah.
And one other thing that Ithought is just kind of
interesting on what actuallyhappens today, which is November
17th of when you're listeningto this oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah.
In 1973, Nixon insists that heis not a crook.
(46:49):
I saw this.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
I didn't see that and , honestly, I thought that was
the one that you were gonna pick, so I didn't pick it for mine.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
Yeah, that is.
That is.
Oh my God, what 2003.
Oh no, on November 17th,washington DC, sniper John
Muhammad is convicted.
Wow, Muhammad and I were in DCwhen they were active.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
Yeah, I'm in the sun, yeah, what?
And you guys were looking outfor vans, right?
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Vans and we had to walk like zigzag on the
sidewalks.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
That's crazy.
I was only like five.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
Yeah, wow.
So to everyone who's listening,look up the DC sniper.
He was wild, he was crazy.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Was he doing the he would like?
Did he have like the littlehole in his van?
Speaker 1 (47:34):
No, it was just a regular car and it was out of
the back of the trunk.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
With a license plate.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Yeah, something like that, or it was out of the tail
light or something, and he wouldjust fucking shoot people.
That's so crazy.
Randomly, holy shit.
And no one knew where he was atand people just thought he's in
a tree or he's just runningaround.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
It's so scary to me that people like anybody has
that power to do that.
It just takes the one insanebastard to actually go out and
do it Right.
Think of the tree shrimp, Thinkof the tree shrimp Think of the
tree shrimp.
Think of the tree shrimp.
Oh, ian, do you have anythingto say to the kids?
Hey, if you made it this far,especially in this episode cause
you know we don't really didn'treally have a planned intro or
anything like that we doappreciate you guys.
(48:12):
Seriously, we have a lot of fundoing this.
Cooper works very hard.
Cooper needed a break and I wasvery I just didn't have the
time.
I was very, very excited to dothis episode because this is I
just enjoy this kind of shit.
So so, if you made it this far,fuck, yeah, you're a rock star,
you're a goddamn champion.
And I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
Stay beautiful bitches, cause we fucking love
you, we fucking love you, wefucking love you.
Go to共语笑景点点干am.
Check, check.
Okay, that's better Check check.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
It's so loud.
Check, we're doing somethingdifferent, are we we?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
are Shit dude.
I thought we were going to talkabout history.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Oh, we're talking about history today.
That is a for sure thing.
It's literally in the title ofthe podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
We have to talk about history, that is true.
We are going to go ahead anddrink our way through history.
Speaking of taking a drink meal, chap, I think it's time we
take our shot, our shot of wine.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Well, first, ladies and gentlemen, why this is
different today is because thisis called a thimble of whiskey.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yes, yes, yes, so we're drinking wine for the
thimble of whiskey, which isfine.
It actually is a good symbolfor this podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
It's really nice.
Honestly, I could use thelightness of this beautiful
sauvignon blanc.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yes, yes, some savagene blanc, yes, cheers.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Cheers, sir Chink Chink chink, chink chink.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I don't think we could say that more, though.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Well, now you made it racist.
As soon as you say it anothertime, it becomes very racist.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
We were clinking.
Clink, that's what we werelooking for.
Shit Fucking Christ, start over.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
No, start over Shit Now.
We're just known as racists.
It's as easy as that.
It's as easy as that.
That's how it gets cancelled,and a thimble of whiskey episode
is what we do.
Tell them Is we are going to,instead of telling an entire
story of a specific place,spectacle, event, person, we are
(02:09):
going to dive into somearticles, history related and
things that we find entertaining.
Yeah, yeah, and I was out oftown this week and is what
happens?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
The face you had on your head.
It was so sad and disappointing.
It was very because I was just.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I love doing this shit, yeah, I just didn't have
the time to actually like geteverything together and Well, if
you're religious, about theFriday releases.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Religious, yes, about the Friday releases.
Because this is the key, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, consistency is key, exactly.
I was like I'm going to do thisshit and I was so upset earlier
.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
He spent all day working on this script that we
are going to use next week.
We'll talk about it next week,but he worked on this script all
day.
And then he was like he came tomy room and he was so sad and
he's got his little pouty faceon and he's like hey man, I
don't think I can get this donein time.
He only had to his credit 24hours to write an entire script.
Yeah, and I look at him and I'mlike bro and I have a job.
(03:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I mean, guess what?
We also have jobs, yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
So I look at him, I'm like, bro, let's just do a
thimble of whiskey, do a thimble.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Just a little bit.
If you've been a long time fanof the show, now like six months
now I think we're at Wow, Iknow, shout out.
Six months is that unlike ourfirst episode we talked about
potentially involving a thimbleof whiskey episode and kind of
as a breather for me and mybrain.
But I mean it's going to beincorporated into.
(03:47):
We'll do it more and more, butit's with our regular scheduled
show.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
These are my favorite episodes, like I love.
I love the other episodes, andto say that this is more my
favorite is saying a lot becauseI do love the other episodes.
But these are just fun.
We get to just chill, have aconversation about some really
cool shit.
Yes, drink a little bit.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
And I'm so.
It's nice to take a load offCooper.
Take a load off Randy.
Is that how the song goes?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I think so.
Yeah, I have never heard thatbefore in my life.
It goes definitely different,but it's fine oh good, good,
cooper, do you have somethingthat happened today in history?
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Do I have something that happened?
Oh, like what happened today inhistory, because I have two
things.
Do you have two?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
things I do.
I have two things that happened.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Are you going off of history channel or are you going
off of Britannica I?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
don't remember, but they're different.
I had to scroll away to findthem because I thought they were
cool.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Okay, I mean okay.
So I will tell you whathappened today in history.
If this, okay, yeah.
So today this is Thursday.
Before the Friday release isNovember 16th the Elizabethan
age begins in 1558.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Wow, shout out home girl Elizabeth.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Well, ian, actually, oh Well, actually, no, you're
right.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I was like I swear to God.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I swear to God, queen Mary the first, the monarch of
England in Ireland, ireland,ireland, since 1553 dies and is
succeeded by her 25 year oldhalf sister, elizabeth Wow, and
now the two half sisters, bothdaughters of King Henry the
eighth, had a stormyrelationship during Mary's five
(05:37):
year reign.
Mary, who's brought up to be asa Catholic, enacted pro
Catholic legislation and madeefforts to restore the Pope to
supremacy in England.
Ah yes, the Pope.
Now there's a lot that morethat goes into this and why I
won't read this whole damn thing.
But this is the beginning ofthe Elizabethan age in 1558 of
(06:03):
November 16th.
Ian, did you have something morecrazy than that?
Yeah, I didn't pick that.
You didn't pick that.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
That was this is a big deal, it's a big deal, it's
a big deal.
All right, it's definitely abig deal, I so I thought this
was kind of cool.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
He was like I didn't pick something boring.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So I picked two things because I thought they
were kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Tiberius, the son of Augustus.
It was born today on 42 BCE.
Those of you who aren'tfamiliar with Augustus the big
ups, augustus yeah.
I think Cooper can tell youabout who Augustus is very
briefly on the spot right now.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
It's very second.
No, no, no, you can.
It's all you.
You're the one who found this.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Well, he, basically he, he uh, not preceded, he post
seated Julius Caesar.
That's not a word, but that'swhat he did.
Right, he was right afterJulius.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
This is Mark Antony oh after.
I could be completely wrong onthat be after Mark Anthony,
because Mark Anthony wasn'taround much longer, so they're
both having.
They were both in arelationship.
Yeah, cleopatra, gustus couldhave been right after that, okay
, okay, or Gus is turned intowhat I don't know.
(07:15):
They all changed their nameswhen they became emperor.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I know that's what Either way.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
We all know Augustus.
We covered him in the episode.
We covered him in the RomanEmpire.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
We did, we did so.
His son was born 42 BCE.
I thought that was pretty cool.
And then Cala Kaua, the lastking and second to last monarch
of Hawaii, was born in 1874.
Oh, that's dope, yeah what did.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I did anything, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
What I wanted to say was I had no idea that there
were monarchies in Hawaii.
I didn't I.
That was something that I justhad never even thought about.
But apparently, yeah, they had,kings, they had.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, I was gonna say yeah, yeah, definitely
monarchies beforehand.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah, the white guy like kings in fucking 1874 to
1891, which he was the second tolast monarch, so I'm assuming
there was a queen after him.
But he, like that's Relativelyover the course of what we talk
about on this podcast.
That's pretty recent.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, I was gonna say when did America?
Speaker 2 (08:14):
induct Hawaii.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, I don't know producer.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Can you look that up for us in America?
Producer.
Hawaii in In 1898, oh see, andit must have been.
That was the monarch.
So he died in 91.
Wow, yeah.
And then, I guess, the queentook over and only lasted a few
years.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Geez interesting apparently resulted from
economic integration and therise of the United States as a
Pacific power.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Mmm Pacific power.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I like to call that Pee Pee yeah we are now a pee
pee, all right, so that's,that's how we.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Stop it.
So that's how we start theseepisodes, right?
We talk about.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Well, wait, what happened on the day that the
episodes can be released?
I didn't come up with that one.
Do you have one?
I'll find one, cuz I mean whathappens?
What happened, oh?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, both of all of mine were in reference to Today
usually there's this.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
This history page, usually, is supposed to allow me
to go into a specific date.
Here we go, the 17th, but wait,okay, the recent history.
In 2003, on the day thisepisode is relief, aren't Arnold
Schwarzenegger is inauguratedas governor of California.
(09:33):
Nice, I'll be back, I'll beback get through the chopper.
I love it.
Oh, and then a diocletian wasacclaimed Roman Empire by
soldiers in 284.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
He is deocletian deocletian, if I'm not mistaken.
Yes, interesting, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, boom.
I always, I always like hearingthose facts, because it's like
it just makes you think, it'slike ah, it's just a day like
today.
It's a day like today.
Like today, this crazy fuckingthing happened.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
So, yeah, that's how we start these episodes now, ian
, you have some interestingtopics.
Do you want to?
Do you want to start us offwith something good, or do you
want me to go first?
Um, I can start us off.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
But then you got to go twice in a row because I got
a real kicker.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
I was gonna say so let let's go ahead, and let me
start with Something okay, okay,I know you got a kicker.
You haven't told me the details.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I haven't told you shit, bro.
I'm excited, I'm so excited.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
So we're gonna start out, you know what?
Because we talk quite a bit,especially in the last episode,
about Wars war.
So I found this article thatwas recently released, on the
6th of this month, about whendid humans start Waging war,
which is second they were born,the second they were born.
(10:49):
Now, of course, it talks aboutthat people have been fighting
forever and people have beenkilling people for like
organized war, organized whatyou're talking about.
Okay, okay, yeah, and so youknow.
Archaeology, archaeologicalevidence suggests that Neolithic
warfare progressed fromsmall-scale clashes and
massacres to longer and moresophisticated conflicts About
(11:12):
like 10,000 years ago now.
What they describe, how theydescribe it prior to that, is
like chimpanzees fighting eachother.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, well, I mean, it was basically.
That's basically what it was.
Yes, was barely evolved humans.
Yeah right, throwing stones ateach other, stabbing each other
the faces with spears and shit,with.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
the biggest contributing factor of this is
agriculture when people startedbecoming settled into their own
areas, they're defending theirlands now.
Because they're no longer beingnomadic people.
They're starting to buildcommunities and villages.
And so around 12,000 years ago,when farming started, fights
(11:54):
seemed to become bigger and moreorganized.
Now evidence shows that somefights got super serious, like a
specific massacre in Kenyawhere people were tied up and
killed.
They have the bone evidence andhow the burial, like the bones
are still tied.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I guess they didn't move them after they were dead,
probably, and they have cracksin the skull being beaten with
their blood into death.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Dying 12,000 years ago has got to be rough.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, especially because it's so fucking easy to
do that.
You get a cut on your finger,it gets infected.
Surprise, you're dead, you'redead.
They did have better immunesystems.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
And also when it's night.
It's really fucking night.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
You gotta think about the starlight and moonlight and
stuff like that.
It was a lot more clear backthen.
And there are a lot of placeswhere in the world where there's
not a lot of air pollution andyou go to them at night, it is
actually very well lit.
Not well lit, it's dimly litbut it's good enough that you
can see.
But I will say, on a cloudynight, you're fucked.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
That is true.
Now, as time kept going through, there's obviously these little
pockets of massacres.
There's quite a bit thathappened in Austria and fucking
Germany Quite a bit of.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
War started in Germany.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
No, so as time passed , they got even more complex.
About 5,000 years ago, a groupin Spain had a conflict that had
, I guess the archaeologistswere able to determine that
these battles started lasting 8to 20 days, and it was more of a
siege and coming in and itwasn't massacring hundreds of
(13:38):
people, it was like 20 to 40people.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Well, there weren't even communities of hundreds of
people that much no, or at leastcommunities of hundreds of
warriors.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Well, there were 5,000 years ago there were oh
5,000.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
I thought we were still talking about 10,000.
Oh yeah, no, no, no, I meanit's 5,000 because we went like
12,000 to 5,000.
Is when we start seeing morelong-gated battles.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah, yeah, and so that's when People got smarter
and then people got meaner.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yeah, because these little communities in Austria
and Germany and stuff startedpopping up walls and then you
see it throughout Asia andeverything around these
communities and they fought overresources and probably had just
regular disagreements and it,like most likely never, was just
a quick battle.
It was a siege now, but it wasnot nearly as organized, but it
started becoming more.
(14:21):
And we talked about in theBattle of Agencourt is how the
evolution of warfare has beenlike, especially in proper war
and battles, how it was soproper.
Yeah, it was very formal,formal, exactly, and now it's
just guerrilla.
Well, there's guerrilla warfare, then there's.
I mean, basically that's all itis nowadays.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah, nowadays it is definitely just guerrilla
warfare, even in, like, whenthere's tribal battles and stuff
like that over in Africa orwherever there might be a tribe,
it's very much so stillguerrilla warfare there's not a
lot of honor in war anymore.
No, no.
In fact, I would say thatthere's no honor in war anymore.
Not with what we're fuckingseeing Now piss us off enough,
We'll drop a nuke on you Likeit's.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Did you know?
Right now there are 32countries in active warfare.
That's crazy, 32 countries.
Now, as farming got better, sodid the fighting, because more
food, you can have more energy.
And then, with better tools andorganized groups, wars became
larger.
Places like Mesopotamia andEgypt had big armies with
(15:27):
leaders and plans for battle.
People even made drawings ofyou know.
They started just becoming moreelaborate and so humans
probably just started fightingin bigger and more organized
ways during the time whenfarming became more common and
which led to more complex.
War is driven by food, sir.
Yeah, it is just a naturalresource.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
We've always been fighting for fucking resources,
dude when you're going back tothat stat that you just said.
I got a little quiet therebecause I want to look something
up.
16% of the world, that is oh 32countries yeah 16.4% of the
world.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Sir, we are on the cusp of World War III.
Oh, easily.
I mean, we just had the Chinesepresident Xi.
He just came over, he was inCalifornia, met with the
California governor and thenfucking Biden just saw him and
then by them just called him adictator again as he left.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Ah, classic dictators .
We don't need to get anycurrent.
I know what's happening rightnow, though that's about to
happen, man, this is an escapefor people, Cooper.
It's an escape for people wedon't need to talk about world
politics.
All right, so fighting's beengoing on forever.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
We're definitely going to keep fighting.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, it's never going to stop, and the weapons
that we use nowadays are justgetting so much worse.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
So what did Albert Einstein say?
I don't know what the next warwill be fought with, but the one
after that will be fought withsticks and stones.
Yeah, I mean fuck dude, he'snot wrong.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
He's not wrong, okay.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Is that when war started?
That's yep, that's war 10,000years ago.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
I'm not surprised that it was so long ago, because
I figured that it would havestarted a lot earlier, but
people have been killing eachother since the start.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
But organized warfare still 10,000 years.
That's a long fucking time.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah, and they're classifying like massacres in
there as well.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Right, right, right, yeah, yeah that makes sense On
the other side of things.
Let's talk about the climate.
Love that.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I know, I know, I regret a Thunberg hit me.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
So I think this is kind of cool and also super
fucking scary, which is why Iwant to talk about it.
Okay, Climate engineering couldslow Antarctic ice loss.
Right?
It's not a new theory.
It's an old theory, been aroundfor a long time, but they're
starting to try it.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Climate engineering.
So Indiana University iscurrently doing the study.
Right, they want to scattersunlight reflecting particles
into the atmosphere, which is,you know, like a theoretical
form of climate engineering,notice, like stratospheric
aerosol injection, and theythink that that can slow the ice
melts in Western Antarctica,right, really, yeah, so it's
(17:52):
kind of mimics, like whathappens when a large volcano
spews vast amounts of particlesinto the upper atmosphere and
causes a cooling effect that canlast months to years, right?
So they're trying to use thatsame theory and injecting it
into you know, hopefully whatwould be harmless particles
going into the sky to reflectthe sunlight away from us.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Oh, so this is like preventative of like a future
solar flare.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yeah, I mean, it's literally.
Well, it's to say, the ice capsis their main goal.
I'm sure that they couldconcentrate it if they needed to
Like, if the science got farenough, they could probably
concentrate it and actually helpstop the effects of a solar
flare.
But it's not there yet.
We're just talking about actualglobal warming.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
So what we're going to do is we're going to shoot
these little particles up in theair and they're going to bounce
UV rays back at the sun or justaway from Earth, away from.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Earth.
Yeah, so it's basically like ashield going up around us, which
is scary yeah.
Because think about that.
There's just that that's, inintroducing a particle into the
air, you have to be so fuckingcareful of what particle you're
using and you have to do so muchresearch into the long term
effects of that, and they're noteven thinking that they could
even start trying to do it until2035.
Like and if not a decade more.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Oh think about the mice that are dying because
they're testing this.
Oh God, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
For the love of God.
So it was actually recentlydiscussed in a White House
report.
So this is really very legit.
Yeah it out.
It outlined like a potentialresearch program on
stratospheric aerosol injection,and then something else.
I believe it was called cloudlightning, marine cloud
lightning.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Marine cloud.
What so you like?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
not lightning like snap, it's lightning like the
lightning, the color.
So it's reflects the sunlight.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, so they're thinking about throwing
clouds, nemo dude, I don't know,and that's what's so fucking
scary about it.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
To be fair, the scientists that are working on
this stuff are being super,super careful, like they very
much so understand the risks andthey're taking it very, very
slow.
But with the current climatesituation and how we're
approaching these certaindeadlines where we're supposed
to get the, you know the, the,the, basically get shit under
control a little bit as far aswhat are they called?
(20:00):
When, like cars emissions, likegetting I mean, I was like yeah
, that's.
I was procrastinating on sayingthe word because I couldn't
remember it, but like if wedon't get all of that shit under
control within the next decade,we cross a certain threshold
and shit starts to get bad.
And so it's very likely thatwe're not going to do that.
Right it's.
It's become so likely thatwe're not going to do that that
(20:20):
we're looking at throwingfucking particles into the
goddamn atmosphere.
What are these particles madeof?
I couldn't find that out.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
And I tried.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I tried which scares me more because, it's like
they're not even putting that inthe which, to be fair, they're
probably just protecting theirresearch so that somebody else
doesn't do it, and they want tobe the ones to probably need
help.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
The earth is big.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
I mean it's Indiana University, cooper.
They're pretty renowned.
Hey if Indiana comes around andsaves the whole goddamn planet.
I'm there for it.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Team Indiana.
All the way, bro Brothers, Ialways forget Indiana is a state
.
I always think it's a city.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
I'm sorry to all my Indiana people, but I think it's
a part of Louisiana.
Don't be sorry, I don't know.
I don't even know where exactly.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
It is Somewhere in the south, I think it's like I
don't even know Like it's.
It's somewhere in the Midwestit is.
You could circle the wholeMidwest and it's it's somewhere
in there.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
No shit.
I think, Dude we are from theMidwest, I don't hold on.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Look up a fucking picture of where Indiana is US
state.
I could have sworn it wassouthern like near Louisiana.
Oh, it's next to Illinois, soit's actually more the East
Coast yeah.
Ok, it's kind of right.
Let's got any inapolis in itright next to I knew that
useless Ohio.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah, classic Ohio, classic Ohio.
We're just dissing on everysingle state right now.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
We don't like is the fact that, like Indiana,
michigan, wisconsin, ohio, theycall themselves Midwest Very
much a Midwest.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
They're not the Midwest, the Middle East, but we
can't take that turn.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
They are the Middle East because they're still east
of the Mississippi.
We can't say that, though, yes,we can.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
We don't have a Middle East in the United States
, Cooper.
We do no, but what do you everrefer to it?
It's the middle of the Eastside of the country.
It is.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
No one has ever referred to it as the Middle
East.
You're the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Canceled, canceled, so yeah we're a long way from
this.
The projections kind of look atimplementation around 2035,
maybe a decade further than that, and they still don't know.
What's kind of crazy about thisis.
They still don't know if it'senough like to combat the
effects of humanity on theatmosphere and climate.
But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
A bunch of fucking particles up in the air.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
To be fair in theory, it totally would work If they
use the right substance and itdoes reflect the light.
Scientifically it's going towork.
Yeah, that's just the facts.
Now what happens when theseparticles fall back to earth?
Where do they land?
What do?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
they do, kind of what I'm thinking too.
That's the thing, and it's likeare we going to have like a
radioactive like cloud that'sjust going around right Acid
rain at us?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Right, I mean, but it's either that.
So think about this, though Tenof the hottest years on record
ever occurred over the last 14years.
That's including 2023, which ison track to take 2016 spot as
the hottest year ever recordedever.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Oh shit.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Yeah.
So it's like do you die byradiation?
Do you die by solar power?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Do you die by America's processed food?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Dude smoking cancer COVID.
I mean, there's all sorts ofdifferent things you can die
from in this world and you know,I would rather it be airborne
particles of us at least trying,than us just all melt.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
No, because you know how much worse of a death that
probably is than melting.
I think I might rather melt,dude, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I don't.
Hopefully it's quicker.
Whichever one's quicker, I'mgoing to take that one.
I think it's going to bemelting.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Yeah, you're going to just suffer with that.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
It's either you melt or you're going to get the black
lung.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Oh yeah, because it would be.
It would be a slow, it wouldn'tbe immediate, right, it's a
gradual process.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah, black lung.
Yeah, oh, no, tiny Tim, no,it's a Zoolander.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
So that's yes, I know it was Zoolander but also tiny
Tim because you said pa.
But yeah, so that's mine.
On the particles, that was myscience one which I think is
very fucking interesting becauseyou got to think about it.
If they do implement this, thatcan have catastrophic effects
for the entire globe.
So what country is going to doit?
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Like, who's going to do that?
Because you have to.
You're affecting everybody.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
By doing it, I was going to say it's up in the air,
it goes where the wind goes.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
That's a NATO decision, or like a, like a I
don't even know, because there'sso many other parts of the
world that aren't even a part ofit.
Like it's just crazy and likeso you got to think about it.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Because what if all the particles come down and they
just land in the, like theocean and like that, the Nemo
spot where all the asteroids, orasteroids, the satellites,
crash into?
You know it's, it's the mostremote part of the ocean, where
it's farther, it's the farthestpoint away from any point of
land.
Yeah, when they crash land allthe satellites.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Oh, I didn't know that was a thing that's crazy In
the middle of the ocean, noshit.
So I could sail a boat to apoint in the ocean and find some
fucking satellites if I scubadive.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah, you got to dive deep, deep.
Ok, maybe, maybe a submarineyeah we don't want to be Ocean
Gate, we don't want to.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Yeah, it'd have to be , I would use more than an Xbox
controller to control it.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Yeah, yeah, I don't want to just lose trust enough.
I'll go out there and I'llwatch it come down.
How about?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
that Even better.
With our luck, though, it wouldhit us Fuck.
Wouldn't that suck.
I don't know what a way to go.
What a way If I had to picksolar radiation, radiation from
particles in the atmosphere or asatellite falling on my head, I
know which one I'd choose.
Yeah, I'll take the satelliteAll day, all day.
Fun little sidebar here,actually.
While I was looking through forarticles, I found this little
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article speaking of space junk.
There's a toolbox floatingthrough space.
Now why?
Because the astronauts lost atoolbox while they were doing a
spacewalk, while they weretrying to make some repairs, so
they lost a little toolbox.
So there's just a little toolboxfloating around up there Float
Slowly making its way back toEarth, and then it's going to
crash and disintegrate.
Yeah, it'll totallydisintegrate, oh yeah
immediately, like as soon as ithits the atmosphere.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Within 10 seconds it'll be gone, oh yeah, but it's
just cute little flares, it'sjust floating up there right now
Fun facts.
Yeah, I thought that was cuteLittle less it know it has a
fiery death.
Yeah, yeah, don't we all?
Don't we all the toaster thatcould, the little toaster movie,
that's what it reminds me of,except it's going to die toolbox
, flying hundreds of miles anhour.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
So what's your?
What's your second articlethere, cooper?
What are we?
Speaker 1 (26:40):
getting into.
Well, you know that.
Well, obviously you know.
But I think the fans know alsothat we like video games.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
So we fucking love video games.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
We've talked about a couple of them We've talked
about a couple of.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
We talked about one in particular.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
pretty often, I think , pretty often and this article
that I found on the smith'ssmith's the Smith's Moe and Moe
and the Smith's Moe and.
Sony and magazine Dot com, themedieval sect that inspired the
video game Assassins Creed.
Are you, are you excited, dude?
I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
OK, that was my speechless moment, because I've
always wondered this and Ialways have my ideas right.
It's the Illuminati, it's.
It's the Templars, it's the,it's the fucking that, one of
the one, the Masons, shit likethat Right.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Who is it?
It's not, it's not.
It's based off of the groupcalled the Nizaris.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Oh, you know what I've heard, the name.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Are you?
I believe it's called theNizaris.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
I've heard the name.
I'm not too familiar with whatthey did.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
So the, the, the history about them is pretty
like they don't really know.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Yeah, well, yeah, it's a secret society An ancient
secret society.
So if you're trying to hideyour shit back, then no way we
know now.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
So they were part of a larger Muslim community in
like way back when early daysand they did things like
political assassinations andthey were killing like political
, like kings and queens andfucking emperors.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
So, for context, are we, are we basing them off of
the Assassin's Guild or off ofthe Templars Templars in
Assassin's Creed.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Anybody who doesn't know the game will care, but I'm
going to say the fucking.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
I mean, they sound like bad guys.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
The Templar?
No, I don't know the temp,maybe the Templars.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Maybe they could also be the Assassin's Guild,
because if they're doingpolitical assassinations also at
the same time, like, like theyjust don't know.
They just don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
And they also say, like Assassin's Creed has taken
a lot of creative liberties, ofcourse, of course, naturally Of
this.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
So they could have just put a twist on them and
made them kind of quote unquote,the protagonist of the series.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, yeah.
Absolutely.
And so the where is it?
Because Marco Polo is kind ofno shit With this, so it's
because of his travels when hewas on the Silk Road, and Dude.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
What happens on the Silk Road stays on the Silk Road
.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Except for my spices.
You would buy my spices now,and my silk blankets.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
The account of the assassins provided by Marco.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Polo upon his return to Venice in 1295, fascinated
European orientals andcontributed to fanciful tales.
However, medieval Muslimwritings held a hostile view of
the Nazaris, considering them aschismatic and problematic group
within the Muslim community andthe group within the Muslim
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community.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
So they're controversial.
It's totally based off theassassins.
It's totally the assassins.
It's not the Templars Okay,it's gotta be the assassins.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Yeah, then that makes sense.
Yeah, very controversial.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, very controversial.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Now this article is great.
It goes into like so muchdetail that I didn't like I was
like I need anything.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
We need to do a whole episode on them.
Honestly, that's kinda cool.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
This is cool.
There's a lot of names that Icouldn't pronounce.
Naturally so we're good at that.
Yeah, very good, very good.
But I feel like to the point ofjust being offensive if I tried
.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
We can go with just first names or nicknames even.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Man, they're difficult yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
They're so what they do.
They did politicalassassinations.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Well, so the history of the Nazaris begins with the
Islamis.
It's a Shiite group tracing itsorigins to the Ismal Ibn Jafar,
so it's a Muslim sect.
I think you nailed it, thankyou.
Now missionaries spread theirfaith across the Islamic world.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
The missionary spread if you know what I'm saying
Islamic missionaries.
Sorry sorry God, it's just theway you said it, I could have
known myself.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Now they've spread their faith across the Islamic
world, leading to theestablishment of the Fitimid
Caliphate in 909.
Okay, despite the Fatimidexpansion, conflicts and
disputes arose within the Muslimworld, ultimately resulting in
a split within the Islamiccommunity.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
That's the schism factor when it comes to like
what people were talking about,the Muslim community was talking
about with them, which you said.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Yes, they were schismatic.
Now the emergence of HassanSabah.
I'm not quite sure who he was,who is, what he did.
Was he converted to Islam andthen played a pivotal role in
the formation of the Nazaristate?
Okay, oh, there was like astate.
Yeah Well, I mean, I reallydon't know.
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I don't know enough about theMuslim culture.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
That's totally fair.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
So he ended up seizing this castle.
Okay, and it was a big deal.
It was like a really big dealand everybody really liked this
castle and it marked thefoundation of the Nazari in
Persia.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I mean, I like castles.
I get that, I get that.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
I feel that I'm relating.
So Hassan and his successorsinitiated armed revolts against
the Sunni I can't even say someof these names because the Sunni
rulers employing tactics suchas small scale attacks, castle
captures and political motivatedassassinations.
All right.
Now this article discusses thesplit within the Islamic
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community following thesuccession crisis between the
Nazar and the Mastali I thinkthat's what their name is.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
I think you're doing splendid and I think you've
apologized enough that no one'sgoing to be offended.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
So it basically like this castle started their own
kingdom in Persia.
Right, they get sick.
That's kind of fucking sick.
So one castle and they're likenow we are kings.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, we founded a castle.
Would we not be kings?
Let's be honest, we would.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
So they became specifically famous for their
political assassinations, likethat was just their go to.
They were the hit man of thefucking 1000s.
All right, this made peoplefrom other places, like all over
Europe, tell stupid wildstories about them, basically
exacerbating their stories andjust like all of a sudden became
like the myth.
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Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Like you ever played the game telephone where you
whisper into I'm not, I'mexplaining it for them.
Oh, okay, yeah, but yeah, it'slike you whisper, that is true
you start with a sentence andthen you whisper that sentence
into your homie's ear and thenhe looks at his homie next on
the other side of them andwhispers this tries to whisper
the same sentence and you dothat through 20 people and by
the end of it it's a completelydifferent fucking sentence.
Yes, that's essentially whathappens with myths and legends
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and things like that.
Things get exaggerated overtime Through the grapevine.
Through the grapevine.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Now people have totally different opinions about
them, either like somethingthat they were early terrorists,
and others kind of think ofthem as a more positive culture
of like they were taking outdictators and horrible
oppressors of people things likethat.
So overall, the Nazarets were agroup of people from the 1000s
(33:55):
early 1000s.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Gotta keep it at 1000s.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
And, honestly, it's just still debated to this day.
But it's kind of cool that,like it was this potential group
of people who never even wrotedown their own history and we're
just rumored about.
They were talked about peoplein the shadows.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Well, it's literally the assassins.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
It's literally.
That's great.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Which is fucking which is so sick to me.
Yeah, I hope they're stillaround.
I hope they are because they'reprobably doing good.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
There's a sect in the muzzle, or in the muzzle in the
Mormon community.
When Joseph Smith okay.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Well, if they became Mormons, I don't know how I feel
anymore.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
They did the same thing.
They were like the Mormonassassins.
They know shit.
Yeah, Mormons had assassins.
Mormons had assassins brotherWild West was crazy, did I
fucking?
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Yeah, I just.
I just grew to like Mormons somuch more bro.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Joseph Smith I mean I like bring him young is the
asshole.
Joseph Smith was the crazymotherfucker that yeah, his ass
off, yeah, and all the shit, andthen he had a sect of fucking
assassins.
Basically, it's yeah, fuckingcrazy.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
That is wild, so it's cool like that.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
They, yeah, I don't know.
I just kind of found itfascinating and I will be
finding some more in-depthinformation about the Nazarees.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
If we can find enough information, we should totally
do an episode on them, becausethat sounds super fun and I will
be sure to get pronunciationsbetter.
We just they're not even gonnaknow that two of us were doing.
That Sounded like one person,all right.
No, that's interesting.
You have, I got a banger yougot a banger, I got a banger,
(35:32):
and it's not gonna sound like abanger at first, but just wait.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
I want to hear this banger dog.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
So I explain this to Cooper very briefly and I didn't
tell him much about it, but allI said was I found out about
this one thing and it led medown a very awesome, fun rabbit
hole.
So there's a lot about thisthat I had to dig into.
That's why I haven't cited mysources on either one of these,
because there's so many.
I went across a bunch ofdifferent articles and just
found a bunch of cool shit.
Yeah, so this one it's thetitle of the main article that
(35:59):
brought me down this rabbit holewas elusive egg laying mammal
caught on camera for the firsttime in 60 years.
Okay, so I thought that wascool.
I was like, okay, interestingright one fast chicken.
It's an egg laying mammal,cooper.
Chickens are not mammals, it's,those are birds.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
One fast tube cover us, that's.
That is a mammal.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
That is a mammal?
I think no.
So there's only five types ofmammal lay or of egg laying
mammals in the world, right Okay?
Speaker 1 (36:24):
there's only five of them, ostriches.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Well, do not lay eggs snakes.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Sasquatch, you're looking for platypus.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
That is what you're looking for.
No, so Attenborough's long beakechidna or echidna right is is
how it's pronounced.
I looked up the pronunciationof what a kid.
Now it's Attenborough's longbeaked echidna right.
It's they.
Basically that's the name ofthe animal that was picked.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Oh, okay, mm-hmm Is that a platypus?
Speaker 2 (36:54):
No, it's an echidna.
It's in the same family.
So the mammalian Family treesplit off, I believe 200 million
years ago, into two differentsex egg laying mammals and Live
birth giving mammals.
And there's only five egglaying mammals left.
Oh, and the platypus is one ofthem, and then the echidnas are
one of them.
Okay now, this is the firsttime that we're seeing these
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animals in 60 years.
We kind of thought that theywere extinct.
We were.
They was on the verge of usthinking that they were gone,
mm-hmm.
So this major expedition wentinto the Cyclops Mountains in
Indonesia right now.
This sounds boring at first,but bear with me.
Now.
This is only one of five egglaying mammals.
Like I said, they live inburrows, they eat insects and
worms, and termites arecritically endangered.
Basically, it's an animal withthe spine of a hedgehog, the
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snout of an anteater in the feetof a mole right.
So yeah it's a, it's asmorgasbord of an animal.
So they this is where it kindof got cool and where I started
going down rabbit holes, uh-huh.
They hold a culturalsignificance for the people of
Yongsu Superior, who have livedin those mountains the Cyclops
Mountains in Indonesia for about18 Generations.
(37:59):
Right, and the culturalsignificance of them is, rather
than fighting during conflicts,the tradition is for one party
to go into the mountains to findthe echidna, while the other
goes to the ocean to find aMarlin.
Now, both of these were sodifficult to find that it could
take decades, to even entireGenerations, what to locate one
of these, and whoever?
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whoever won won the conflict.
Whoever found it first won theconflict.
So one would go to the oceanand try to locate a Marlin, a
deep-sea fish.
Oh, they were not advancedenough to go into the deep sea.
No, so they have to find aMarlin, or they have to find an
echidna.
Now, these are all so rare itcould take literally a fucking
generation to find one.
(38:42):
And then finding one ends theconflict.
So I thought that was prettycool.
But this fucking expedition,bro.
When I say this expedition wascursed, okay, this was a cursed
expedition.
First of all, they're travelingthrough a very beautiful but
super volatile landscape.
Okay, very dangerous.
There's all sorts of shitpoisonous spiders, poisonous
snakes, leopards there's that.
(39:02):
I don't know if leopards arethere.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
I just made that up but there are poison there,
fucking there.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
It's, it's fucking crazy, right.
And then they're there for fourweeks they didn't spot shit.
Okay, then spot anything.
They were like whatever.
They found a few things hereand there, but nothing crazy.
They set up like 80 trail camsbut then they were forced to
evacuate due to a suddenearthquake.
So there was an earthquake andthey got a go.
They're like, oh shit, you know, I'm in fucking the middle of
nowhere, like yeah.
(39:29):
Right.
So one team member ended upbreaking his arm in two places.
Ouch, yeah, not fun in themiddle of nowhere with poisonous
spiders everywhere.
What do I think he tripped?
I think it was literally aseasy as you imagine.
Falling no, like just tripping.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
No, but it'd be so easy because there's like so
much in every way assuming andprobably like a 20, 30 year old
adult.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Yeah, on this mission and broke his arm in two places
.
Man, jesus Christ.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Yeah, push ups bro, you fucking loser.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
And they also did have guides from the local
people, right, so they actuallyhave these local guides.
This is fun fact.
This is the first expeditionever to go into these mountains
to actually deal with, likereptilian life, amphibians, and
do just a bunch of research ontoall these new animals that we
haven't really documented much.
Yeah, so we were finally ableto get in there and do that.
So, anyway, one team memberbroke his arm in two places.
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One fucking contracted malaria,jesus Christ, mm-hmm.
And then the kicker oneactually had a leech attached to
his left eye for over a day anda half.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Holy fuck, is this like the dill tough passes.
Incident light.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Possibly, man, holy shit.
So cursed expedition.
But on the last fucking day,man, on the very last day of the
expedition.
They've been four weeks outthere not finding shit.
They have 80 trail cams set up.
They could only get a few ofthem back, but it's the.
They got all the recordings.
Yeah, it's digital and it'stransferred.
You know right.
But, uh, 80 cameras on the lastday.
They spot this a kind of or howis it said?
(40:58):
It's the a kid now.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
I think it is.
Yeah, it's like it almost lookslike a porcupine, right?
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Yeah, it's got the scales of the hedgehog and the
hands are the feet of the moleand then the snout of an
anteater.
Honestly, but yeah, so on thelast day they finally see this
thing.
But not only did they find theechidna, which is huge, because
60 years Going 60 years withoutbeing photographed is crazy.
That isn't saying it's like anocean animal.
Yeah, they didn't just findthat, though.
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They also found whip scorpions.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
What the fuck is a whip scorpion?
Speaker 2 (41:31):
It's not a scorpion.
I thought these were kind ofinteresting.
They're basically mockscorpions, but they have huge
fucking.
Look up a picture of them.
They're scary, they're scary.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Right here, okay, whip scorpion, but they're not
boys.
No, oh god, no, they havereally long.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Yeah, yeah, they found a single one of those.
No trip, I'm good, it'sterrifying.
They're not poisonous to humans, they're harmless to humans.
Fun fact when they mate theyactually lock their mandibles
together so that the femalecan't eat the man after they're
done mating.
So it's like a praying mantis,but the man's developed a
defense mechanism Nature andthen.
(42:09):
And then here's the cool part,man, they discovered forest
shrimp, ground and tree dwellingshrimp, what it's so humid
there and rainfall so much thatthere are forest shrimp.
Now, these are an adaptation ofa type of shrimp that is able
(42:31):
to come out of the water fromfrom the ocean.
Okay, so it basically like onthe beaches and stuff like that.
They have shrimp that are ableto crawl out onto the plants and
stuff like that and kind ofsurvive a little bit above the
water.
Yeah, they got to go back inthe water.
Well, these don't do that.
They live in the trees andthere.
(42:53):
And now, keep in mind thisarticle was posted yesterday, I
so.
So they just found these.
I don't know if this is aprevious discovery that they've
known about, cause there's thisthing.
I'm looking up for a shrimp andit's just showing me Bubba Gum,
shrimp yeah yeah, it's very,very recent, and so, essentially
, they live in the trees, theylive in the ground, and then, of
(43:13):
course, the ground is very,very moist because they get a
ton of rainfall, so there's justenough humidity in the air for
these things to survive outsideof water.
They live on land 24 seven,which is crazy, and they're
fucking shrimp.
So that's wild.
Yeah, yeah, it's justabsolutely crazy.
And then, to kick it off, theyfound now I know that there's
these in caves.
We already knew about them incaves, but they found blind
(43:35):
spiders.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Ah yeah, I've heard of blind spiders.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
Yeah, now these ones, I believe, did have eyes, but
the ones in caves actually don'thave eyes.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
You don't need them.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
You don't need them.
But yeah, so they found blindspiders, they found this echidna
, which is crazy.
They found whip scorpions,which is kind of a cool find,
and then they found thesefucking forest shrimp, which was
briefly mentioned in theinitial article, and this is
where I say this rabbit holehappened.
I saw that they briefly talkedabout the tribe that spent
generations going out to findthe echidna in a Marlin to talk
(44:07):
about it.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
It's so funny that they went after a Marlin.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Instead of war, instead.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
Of war, speaking of war, Instead of war, we would go
on a scavenger hunt.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Well, it was a spiritual thing for them.
They're like whichever one ofus can find this red herring,
this white hair, the whiterabbit, so to speak, first wins
the argument, and what the shit.
But what that did was itstopped them from fucking
killing each other, and so theywould go an entire generation
(44:37):
being like.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
I don't really like these guys but that's as far as
it went.
Uncle is out there findingthese and he's been out there
for 40 years.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
You know what I mean?
Like crazy shit, yeah.
So I thought that was a verycool little tidbit Shout out to
the echidna.
That's tight, it's like we'regonna go around.
It's not dead.
We need to leave it the fuckalone.
We need to never go back tothat forest.
We need to leave it alone andlet it be, and let those
peaceful people be and nevertouch it again.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
Oh my God, I um forest fucking shrimp, Forest
shrimp.
I wonder if there's an industryfor that.
You know.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Just don't think like that.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
That's the problem with humans.
That's the problem with humans.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
All of a sudden, Long John Silver starts a new
fucking dish item and it'scalled forest shrimp.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
It's a green box.
What it's given to you.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
No, they have an actual name.
I decided to nickname themforest shrimp and the article
decided to nickname them.
They just said ground dwellingand tree dwelling shrimp.
Hmm, but it's.
They didn't give me an actualname and when I tried to look it
up, I couldn't find much aboutit.
Okay, Because, keep in mind,this is very recent shit, Right?
So I mean, obviously there'senough going on in the world
(45:46):
right now that nobody's reallygonna talk about it.
I guess this is fair yeah.
I still thought it was a prettycool little discovery.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
I fucking love it.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Yeah, dude, it's like you can spend all day talking
about all the shitty stuffthat's going on in the world and
there's this little segment ofthe planet that's got tree
shrimp and when you're sad, justthink of the tree shrimp.
You know, just think of thetree shrimp, just think of the
tree shrimp.
Think of the little tree shrimpwhen I'm stressed out, cause I
have to make 250 sales calls ina day.
I'm gonna think of the treeshrimp and I'm gonna be like be
(46:15):
like the tree shrimp Hang out,that's fair.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Yeah, that's so nice.
Well, ladies and gentlemen,that's your temple of whiskey.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
Yeah, dude, this was so fun and we should do it again
.
We should do.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Yeah, I think we should do.
We should do we should do, weshould do, yeah, yeah.
And one other thing that Ithought is just kind of
interesting on what actuallyhappens today, which is November
17th of when you're listeningto this oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah.
In 1973, Nixon insists that heis not a crook.
(46:49):
I saw this.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
I didn't see that and , honestly, I thought that was
the one that you were gonna pick, so I didn't pick it for mine.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
Yeah, that is.
That is.
Oh my God, what 2003.
Oh no, on November 17th,washington DC, sniper John
Muhammad is convicted.
Wow, Muhammad and I were in DCwhen they were active.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
Yeah, I'm in the sun, yeah, what?
And you guys were looking outfor vans, right?
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Vans and we had to walk like zigzag on the
sidewalks.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
That's crazy.
I was only like five.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
Yeah, wow.
So to everyone who's listening,look up the DC sniper.
He was wild, he was crazy.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Was he doing the he would like?
Did he have like the littlehole in his van?
Speaker 1 (47:34):
No, it was just a regular car and it was out of
the back of the trunk.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
With a license plate.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Yeah, something like that, or it was out of the tail
light or something, and he wouldjust fucking shoot people.
That's so crazy.
Randomly, holy shit.
And no one knew where he was atand people just thought he's in
a tree or he's just runningaround.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
It's so scary to me that people like anybody has
that power to do that.
It just takes the one insanebastard to actually go out and
do it Right.
Think of the tree shrimp, Thinkof the tree shrimp Think of the
tree shrimp.
Think of the tree shrimp.
Oh, ian, do you have anythingto say to the kids?
Hey, if you made it this far,especially in this episode cause
you know we don't really didn'treally have a planned intro or
anything like that we doappreciate you guys.
(48:12):
Seriously, we have a lot of fundoing this.
Cooper works very hard.
Cooper needed a break and I wasvery I just didn't have the
time.
I was very, very excited to dothis episode because this is I
just enjoy this kind of shit.
So so, if you made it this far,fuck, yeah, you're a rock star,
you're a goddamn champion.
And I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
Stay beautiful bitches, cause we fucking love
you, we fucking love you, wefucking love you.
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