August 4, 2025 • 50 mins
Ever wonder what happens when those picture-perfect vacation photos disappear from social media? The raw, unfiltered moments of couple travel are exactly what we're diving into this week. From crying behind sunglasses after an argument to the strategic coordination required when navigating new destinations together, we're pulling back the curtain on what traveling as a childless couple really looks like.
We take you through our favorite destinations, with the Pacific Northwest and particularly the San Juan Islands holding special places in our hearts. Emma shares her emotional connection to seeing wild orcas and how that experience shaped our travel preferences moving forward. You'll hear about our division of travel labor (spoiler: one of us does all the planning while the other just drives), and the infamous "Yellowstone Breakfast Incident" that nearly ruined an entire day of wildlife viewing when hunger and poor communication collided.
Perhaps most revealing is our comparison between traveling alone versus with friends who have children. After recently experiencing both scenarios, we break down the stark differences in flexibility, cost, and overall vacation experience. While we treasure our time with friends and their kids, we candidly discuss why child-free travel works best for our relationship—from sleeping in separate hotel beds to spontaneously changing plans without considering nap schedules.
Whether you're the planner or the driver in your relationship, you'll find yourself nodding along to our travel tribulations and triumphs. Share your own vacation argument stories with us—we're convinced we can't be the only ones who fight over missed turns and forgotten phones while still posting those "relationship goals" photos hours later.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello everyone, my name's Ryan.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And my name's Emma.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Welcome to.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Drinks with the Dinks .
Welcome back to another episode.
We actually just got off of acruise, a little friends trip,
so we thought why not talk aboutwhat it's like to vacation
together?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Yes, this was actually our second annual
friends cruise.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
We weren't going to go on this trip, but somebody
talked me into it.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
You're going to turn down a vacation.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
No, vacations are life for me.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
You have two more planned already, don't you?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I do, you just don't know it yet.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
All right.
So vacationing as a couple,vacationing as childless couple
where do you want to begin?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Well, let's talk about where we like to go.
I guess we can start and give alittle background about where
we love to vacation.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Where we like to go the most or just in general.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I think just in general.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Okay, so we're I would say we're West Coasties.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Oh my God, we are PNW people.
We love it.
I love the coast.
I'm like not a beach girl but Ilove those beaches over there
in the PNW, the mountains.
I'm a mountain girl at heart soI love being anywhere the
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mountains are, so we love goingto the Pacific Northwest.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
And our number one favorite spot is.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Washington State.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
The San Juan Islands.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
We love the San Juan Islands.
I'm a big orca lover so that'slike my favorite place.
We go there about every I wouldsay two to three years Is that
right Two to three, we wentthere for our honeymoon.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
We did I mean it wasn't right after we got
married, but I think a year orso after yeah, we went a year
after and I just I never wouldhave thought.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I mean, obviously we were like, okay, we want to go
see Orcas, we're excited aboutthat, but I just never would
have fallen in love with a placelike that the way that I did
you cried.
I did?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I sobbed because you were always a fan of orcas.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I wanted to see willie guys, I brought my free
willie necklace I don't know ifany of you guys had the VHS and
then you got the necklace withit.
I legit brought my free willienecklace.
And then I also brought aharmonica and literally on the
San Juan Islands I played theharmonica and they came um, not
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for the harmonica, but they didI think it was but we did see
them.
It's one of the mostspectacular things I've ever
lived through, and so we reallywant to retire there.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I love it so much hopefully retire there within
the next couple years help usout.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
We'd love to be able to just move across the country
and help a girl fulfill herdream.
That's my dream, that's my lifegoal.
I don't need a huge house.
I will live in a tiny house ona plot of land.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I live in a van.
I know I would live in an RVnot a tiny little van, the
biggest RV you can find.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yes, I want a massive RV.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Basically a house on wheels.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yes, essentially, but other places we love.
We actually just went toYellowstone this year and that
it's so crazy.
It's so vast and there's somany thermal features I just
I've never seen.
Obviously I've never seenanything like it in my life.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
It was like another planet.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
It did look like another planet.
It was outstanding.
So I will say I love that, lovethe tetons national parks.
Yeah, we're big national parkpeople.
I mean, like I said, we justgot off of a cruise, so we do
love cruising.
I grew up cruising with myfamily, so that's always been a
thing for me and that's how Igot into cruising.
Yeah, it is family that's right,and so we've always loved that.
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But we go to the same places.
I guess, technically, with themountains, we go to the same
places too, but I don't know.
The mountains are just in myheart and soul.
That's where I need to be um.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
The mountains are calling and I must go.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Is there any?
We have not.
I will say we have not beenoverseas to like Europe yet, and
that's that's definitely wherewe want to go eventually.
But I'm just so nervous about I.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
We've planned trips.
We have planned, we've hadtrips booked, but we never
actually go through with it.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Like Italy.
We've booked two times.
Covid happened so we couldn'tgo, and then we had a cruise
booked over to Greece and Italyand I just I'm so terrified of
the travel aspect, like goingoverseas and like transit, I
don't know.
It absolutely terrifies me.
I need to get over that fear sothat we can go, but I do.
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I want to go see Greece, I wantto go see Italy, I would love
to go to Norway.
Obviously it's very similar tolike Alaska.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
That's where you want to swim with the whales.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Oh, my lifelong goal is to swim with orcas.
I will do that one day,hopefully sooner rather than
later and I will film it frominside the boat no, you are
jumping.
This man will never swim withdolphins, which I don't really
condone that like in captivity.
Anyways, you're terrified we'vesaid this before you're
terrified of anything that'slarger than you.
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So I, I would actually like tofilm you like.
I would love to like push youin the water.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I would have a heart attack.
I would die.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
That would be my burial site oh, they could smell
the fear on you I mean, I loveorcas they're my favorite, one
of my favorite animals, but I'mokay not swimming with them.
No, if we're paying thousandsof dollars, you would be getting
in the water with me.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
You have to, though I have to pay just to be on the
boat.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yes, so you might as well jump in with me.
Oh my God, that would be sofunny.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I think that would go viral.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
So I think I'm more of like a cool weather, girly
mountain girly.
I hate being hot.
So even though the cruise wasfun, it's like miserable outside
.
You just want to be in thewater at all times.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah, not too big on the tropical.
Every once in a while is good,but for the most part mountains,
cool weather, climate, like Ithink.
Let me pull up the weatherright now.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Are you pulling it up ?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I'm pulling up the weather right now.
Are you pulling it up?
I'm pulling up the weather insan juan island, so currently it
is 59 degrees oh, that's adream with a high of 72 oh my
god, I would love that that'sperfect just year round.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I mean, obviously it's mid-summer right now, so
it's gonna drip, dip down, butbut I mean, that's my perfect
summer weather not 104 degrees,no thanks, so we?
I think out of college is whenI really was like you know what
balls to the wall I'm gonnatravel bug yes, I was like I'm
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gonna travel.
We did like I said.
We did cruises with my familyso much that I I I only saw the
same.
Yeah, I only saw the same likethree or four places in my life
and I'm like I am so tired ofyou know wasting vacation time
to just go on cruises to thesame exact places and I'm like I
want to branch out and seeother parts.
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Yeah, I want to see the world.
So I think that's really when Istarted saying you know what?
I'm going to plan as many tripsas I can, even when we're not
financially able to afford them.
No, we are, but it's definitelya lot.
I mean, it would be a lot moreif we had kids.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
But 100 percent.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
What would you say are our jobs when traveling?
Like what, oh?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
this is easy like because starting from the point
where we decide, hey, let's do atrip right, how?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
how do we vape?
I would say, how do we vacationplan like?
What does that look like for usas a couple?
How do we vacation?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
all right.
So what I do is I get told whatwe're going to do, and then we
get there and then my job kicksin.
So you're admitting, so I thinkyou need to talk about how we
vacation plan, because I don'tknow.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Well, you thought of the topic jobs and I'm like what
does he actually think he'sgoing to say was his job?
Because he doesn't plananything.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Listen, I know what my job is and I do a great job
at it, but my job has not comeup yet, so you need to start
with your job of how the wholeplanning process goes.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
So I book every single vacation.
He acts like he doesn't want togo to these places.
I do.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I don't act like I don't want to go.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I'm saying you just said like well, I do talk to him
and say like hey, these arelike the vacations I'm thinking
of doing.
Are you okay with those?
So I'm not just bookingsomething and saying like, deal
with it, it's places that wewant to go.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
I mean honestly, I would go anywhere.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Right, I would go anywhere with you?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah, it's not the place, it's just.
I'll go on any trip.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Once I see that price tag kind of kind of hits me for
somebody.
Somebody does get mad at me ofthe prices of some of these, but
it's okay.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
It's okay.
Are you talking to yourself?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I think memories mean more.
You see all those posts thatit's like travel now, worry
about the money later.
That's so my mindset mindsetand it's so actually
irresponsible, but I don't care.
We've made some great memoriesover the last 18 plus years
together, traveling.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
So it's all thanks to you.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I literally book everything.
People always say, oh my God,you should be a travel planner.
I don't know how well I dodoing it for other people,
because I travel plan tospecifically what we want.
We're a very specific type ofperson like.
We're not overly adventurous,we like wildlife watching, we
like small trails taking ourtime yeah, taking our time.
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so I will go like on Pinterestand find, hey, like the
itineraries.
I love those blogs that arelike oh, here's your three day
itinerary for this and that, andthen I book everything and then
plan out every single day.
So I literally get on a map andI like map everything out to
say, okay, here's what we'redoing day one, day two, day
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three.
So I map it to a T and then wefly there, we get there and then
I think your job really kicksin.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yep, we pick up the car and I start driving.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
And then Ryan's job is to drive everywhere.
I do not drive, I don't eventhink I get on the insurance
most of the time.
I just let you do the drivingand you know what.
He's perfectly fine with that,so that's fine.
You do have another job, though.
You take all the photos, you,so that's fine you do have
another job, though you take allthe photos you record.
Okay, ryan loves photography,it's one of my hobbies.
(10:29):
He's got some good photos outthere.
I will say that We'll have topost them sometime.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah, so I'm the driver.
I enjoy driving, especially outwest.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yes, because it's not boring.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
There's stuff to see wherever you're going and it's
beautiful, it's so beautiful,it's just a whole nother
experience than driving where weare right now.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
What is your favorite vehicle to drive?
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Truck, 100% truck.
But hey, some people ask youknow, can you handle it?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
We went to Yellowstone and they were like
running out of vehicles.
I booked like the cheapest carthere is and we get up there and
I looked outside in the parkinglot.
I'm like there's literallynothing left.
And the guy was like hey, doyou want a truck?
Speaker 1 (11:11):
And I In front of this man.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I said, Ryan, do you think you can handle a truck?
Speaker 1 (11:17):
In front of this man.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I didn't know that was so demasculating.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, is that a word?
I think so I was like the nerveI don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I'm like, is it a shift like a stick shift truck?
or if it was a manual, then wewould have a problem because,
right, I'm not trained in thatwell, I mean, I didn't know if
you could handle a big like f.
I drove a truck for work yearsago but you did good and now you
want a truck 100% after that itwas really nice.
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Actually, that was one of myfavorite vehicles we've ever had
.
Perfect for the dogs we got tojust sit on the back when we
went animal watching and justposted up on the bed of the
truck and took photos andwatched animals and it was
amazing.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
We lived our Yellowstone dream, our
Yellowstone dream.
Speaking of Yellowstone dream,though, two years ago was when
we were originally supposed togo to Yellowstone.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
It is so we actually, I think it was three years ago,
it was 2022.
Yes it was 2022.
So I had I'd planned this twoweek extravagant not extravagant
, but two week trip.
We were going to go to GrandTeton, we were going to
Yellowstone and then we weredriving down to Rocky Mountain
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National Park.
So we did Grand Teton and thenight before we were leaving for
Yellowstone there was like aslight rain storm Slight rain.
It was not a lot of rain.
So we woke up and it was ourtime to go to Yellowstone.
And you know, if you've seen iton the map, grand Teton and
Yellowstone they're back to back.
So we just drive up about anhour, we get to the ranger
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station to get into Yellowstoneand they go yeah, so sorry
you're not getting in at thegate, like at the gate, and
we're like what?
What do you mean?
and they go yeah, so sorry,you're not getting in.
At the gate.
Like at the gate, and we'relike what, what do you mean?
And they turned every singleperson away and we were like
what is going on?
so finally, like we start seeingthe news where roads had like
completely flushed out washedaway I was sobbing because
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usually, like, if things don'tgo to plan for me, I am
devastated and I don't do wellin those situations, so I'm like
sobbing.
We were like do we stay hereand see if we can get in
tomorrow, or do we change ourplans?
And I think you were like let'sstay and see if we can get in.
And I was like there's no waythey're letting us in there
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tomorrow with roads completelygone.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
I'm an optimist oh my god.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
no, that would have been pointless, so I had to
rework that entire part of thetrip and then we ended up going
to Steamboat Springs in Coloradoand then went to the Rocky
Mountains.
So while that was horrible,it's a funny story.
We talked to a lot of people inYellowstone about how we were
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at the gate and they shuteverybody down and we heard some
crazy stories about peopleevacuating.
But I'm glad it didn't happenthen because I feel like it
would have been rushed and thattwo-week trip and this way, we
had more time this trip.
Yeah, we did a whole week there,so I think I'm more
appreciative.
We have what we call travelangels.
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It's like all of our familythat's passed and I truly think
they watch over us and give usthe best trips possible and.
I think that was them sayinglike nope, this is not your time
to go to Yellowstone.
Your time will be when you have, you know, like a full week to
really appreciate it.
And I feel like we really didthis time.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
whenever we're on trip, there's always something
that's like oh my God, thatnever happens, or the weather's
never this beautiful.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Like, or it's like, oh, the week before it rained or
the week after it snowed and wewere there at this like ideal
timeframe.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Always works out.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
We get very lucky.
I'm very appreciative of that.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
So driving my job, and then that's about it.
Right, I'm done my job's over.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
And I think we both pick food places.
I'm not like a huge foodie inthat sense where I'm like, oh, I
want to go try the local food.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
So we're just kind of I usually just pull up a map
and be like how does this sound?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yeah, sure, pull up a map and be like, um, where we
want to go.
How does this sound?
Speaker 1 (15:39):
yeah sure, I will say what I really recommend this.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Um, it's not an ad, but I just I would love it to be
an ad, but get, uh, not getyour guide.
Oh my gosh, guide along.
Oh my god, we love that, yeah,guide along.
So it's like, um, somebody whotalks to you and it based on gps
.
Yes, it's based on gps and itwill tell you things as you're
driving and tell you differentpull-offs.
So we use that for the firsttime at yellowstone.
Amazing I was when we wereleaving the park and the guy was
like all right, well, we hopeyou had a good time.
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I actually got a little sadbecause I was like, oh my god,
we've.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I feel like we know we're leaving a friend right.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
I feel like we know this guy for an entire week and
he was really helpful because,even as much as I'm a planner,
there was stuff that he was like, hey, pull over here, that I
didn't even look up.
So I really recommend it.
It's called guide along.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I think they do a lot of national parks yeah, and I
think they said they're addingmore yeah every year, so I would
100 recommend yeah, that wasamazing oh I'm reminiscing on
the trip now.
I miss it.
How did you say we plan ordecide where to go?
Well, how do you decide wherewe go?
Because you want it to besomething for both of us, that
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we both would enjoy, but how doyou make the decision on where
to go?
I don't know you just?
Oh, I saw this place on a video, or probably.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Yeah, okay, we should I mean we usually pick, like
you said, like out west is wherewe usually choose to go and I
just kind of stick to thenational parks yeah, I mean
we're trying to tick off all thenational parks tick off.
Who are we ticking off?
The list I really we need to.
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We need to go to, like theArizona places, the Utah places.
I do know the Grand Canyon ishaving a massive fire right now,
so my heart goes out to.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
The Grand Canyon.
Yes, I didn't hear about that.
You haven't seen that.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Oh my God, my heart goes out to everybody who's
battling that or who's, you know, lost something.
I know the lot, like one of thebig lodges, got burned, but it
said I saw a news article thatsaid it was the smoke plume is
so big it's creating its ownweather.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Jesus.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
So my heart goes out to everybody who's dealing with
that right now?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Do we know what started it?
Because of the heat?
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I don't know, I can't remember, but oh, but that's
going to be so devastating.
We haven't been to the GrandCanyon, so that's definitely on
our bucket list, so I hope thatthey can get that under control.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Is it on your thousand places to see before
you die?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah, you did get me that book and I need to go
through it.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
How is it?
I've been hoping.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I plan things for myself.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Just like everything I buy you Never used.
That's all right.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
But I'm sure it's on there.
Well, I did want to talk aboutwhat it's like traveling
together as a couple, because,you know, as amazing as our
trips are, there are things thatI think every couple fights,
you know, when you're travelingtogether.
I mean, you fight at home, youfight when you're on a trip.
So what is it like surviving atrip?
Speaker 1 (18:34):
with your significant other.
I think the added stress alsocan cause more fights than
normal, oh for sure.
Because you're out of yourcomfort zone.
You're in a place that youdon't know if it's the first
time traveling there.
So it can definitely cause morestress and I will say we've
gotten better.
I'd like to think we've gottenbetter.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I think so.
We've had more practice on trips, so I am a lot calmer, Like
when we started traveling, likeoh my God, I would be a freaking
wreck on planes and just likeit would be.
Like oh my God, what's going tohappen when we get there.
And I lately have had thisoverwhelming sense of calm, like
as we're starting the trip.
I feel like that's reallyhelped tensions not be so high.
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That's helped me a lot.
And then I've really had totone down on some things, so
like I've got a list of thingsthat I have to survive with you.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I don't know if you have the same, I have no lists
oh, okay, this is a list ofthings like I need to do or
things you need to have with youto be able to survive traveling
with me no, it's surviving.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
The trip for me is like what I have to deal with
the bullshit with you.
That's part of this list.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I can't wait to hear it.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
You don't have that list for me.
No, what did you mean bysurviving the trip then?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
just talking about how to survive a trip with a
significant other when thingsare, you know, not going
perfectly oh well, no, I havespecific items that I've listed
I, I feel like we can't be theonly couple who goes to this.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
They're just like specific little things that just
kind of piss you off about yoursignificant other and it really
gets highlighted.
Okay, it really getshighlighted when you're
traveling together.
I mean, obviously, if you're acouple and you live together,
you see it every day.
But again, I think, just likethe heightened tensions of
traveling and trying to makesure everything goes smoothly,
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that that just makes it worseokay, okay, well, I'll start,
okay, because I only have onething that I could think of, and
it's something you've gottenbetter at okay, it's
backseat driving I that's partof my thing I figured for you.
Yeah, backseat driving oh mygosh you used to be the worst oh
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, he pisses me off when driving.
I like we've gotten in literalarguments to where I'm sobbing
and like we're not speaking forhours because I've talked about
his driving.
So the thing with his drivingand I have had to tone down, but
it just like it eats me alive,like the internal anger that I
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get.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I am not good at directions.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
And having to like have this pent up, it's just
really like oh my God, I need toget this out somehow.
So for him, he's good atdirections.
And having to like have thispent up, it's just really like
oh my God, I need to get thisout somehow.
So for him, he's horrible atdirections.
And if he doesn't turn, this isthe thing I don't know.
If you know that you do this,Okay One, you never turn around.
Yeah, yes, yes.
I cannot stand this.
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So when he misses an exit, hejust keeps freaking driving and
I'm like why, if you knew wewere supposed to turn back there
?
Why are we just drivingaimlessly in the wrong direction
?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
I'm looking for a good place to turn around.
Turn the freaking car around.
I don't want to turn aroundillegally.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Why are we going 10 miles down the road to an
entirely different state at thispoint like to explore when we
could have turned around eightmiles ago.
That angers me so much allright, 10 miles is a little
exaggeration no, you go so far10 miles, I go 10 miles and then
you expect me not to be likehey, what are we doing?
Like why aren't you pulling offand turning around here?
(22:07):
It makes what, so what, I don'tget what you're like.
Why do you do that?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
because I'm looking for a safe place to turn around.
We've already around in themiddle.
We've already passed 15 otherexits.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Why are you continuing?
Speaker 1 (22:20):
on.
All right, settle down.
This is usually like pullingout of a parking lot or
something that we're just goingdown the wrong road or, if we're
not on the highway.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Oh my God.
Or if, like, we have alreadybeen to that place and you don't
know where we are, to me andthis is I will say you can make
fun of me.
Yes, this is completelyirrational.
I cannot stand it.
If cause I?
So when we go someplace, let'ssay we go there day one, I know
my place, I know my way around.
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Day two, like I've got it down,pat same with like a cruise,
like all right, if we've beenthere day one, I know where my
room is, exactly to a t.
He does not know where we are.
He could, he.
We've lived in our area for youknow 15 years.
He still doesn't know where weare.
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Oh yeah, the Wawa is this waywhat.
We've lived here 15 years, theWawa is not that way.
So, like, imagine being in anew place and he just doesn't
know where we're going.
Oh, my God.
It irritates the hell out of me.
Does it irk you?
It does.
Is it an ick, Like when we wenton the cruise and you kept
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turning down the wrong hallway?
Speaker 1 (23:33):
I did it once.
I'm going to punch you in theface One time Because that's not
where our room is.
I did it once.
I turned down the wrong hallwayonce One time and it was like I
mean, it was a three day cruise, but it was like the second day
.
But things like that I havelimited brain, yeah, I don't
know that part of the memorypart of your brain that is not
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important for me.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Oh my god, that's why we got gps so like but you
don't, if you, you don't evenlisten to the gps, sometimes you
just drive right past itsometimes, sometimes I'm not
paying attention.
I'm getting really, reallyworked up right now I'm getting
very heated, so there's thingslike that, even though I know
that that's completelyirrational, because you're on a
trip, you don't know where youare.
(24:15):
I get it.
So that's, that's on me, that'sdefinitely on me.
Um, I will say another petpeeve I have is you forgetting
things.
Why do I have to make a listfor you?
Speaker 1 (24:30):
You don't have to make a list, to remember, to
bring things.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
You don't have to make a list for you.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
You don't have to make a list to remember to bring
things.
You don't have to make a listfor me.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
If I forget something , then it's not meant to be, and
if it's really important I'llbuy a new one it's just like how
do you not know that you don'thave your phone on you, like
when we went and parked at thecruise terminal.
We get out of the car, we godown in the elevator and it's
weird that I say this.
I was like do you have yourphone?
And you're like, oh no.
So we had to go back up, go tothe car and I'm like, who
doesn't make sure that they havetheir phone on them?
Speaker 1 (24:55):
somebody that's trying to live in the moment
before we get out of the car andget on this cruise.
I don't need my phone, but youdo that a lot.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
You forget things.
I think we forgot like a cameraone time and that really pissed
me off I don't remember one ourtrips, we forgot one of the
cameras.
So like I'm heavy on making alist the night before and then I
literally go through and checkit off and make sure that I have
everything, I don't know whatyou do to pack or get ready, but
it's not working.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
All right, shit talker.
Yellowstone trip What'd youforget?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
What did I forget?
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Your face cream oh.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I did.
Oh, oh, was that not on yourlist?
I bought um.
Ask me what I forgot.
What'd you forget?
Nothing I did.
I bought face cream cause Iwasn't going to put makeup on.
So I wanted um some moisturizerwith SPF and I completely
forgot it.
But that's not the same as likeforgetting your cell phone.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
It's not the same at all.
I'm sorry that the sun doesn'tharm your skin.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I don't need my phone , it's not the same at all what
I do want to bring up, and Iwould love to get people's
opinions on this.
So please comment if you,whatever side you're on on this.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
My side.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
No, I want to talk about the Yellowstone food
incident.
All right, let's talk about it,let's get in it because, I
would you know, we both thinkwe're on the right side of this,
so I want to know what youropinion is all right, I'll start
okay so the night before, Ibelieve, you planned a lovely,
uh early morning, yes, uh,wildlife expedition so we were.
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We wanted to go to lamar valley.
We wanted to get there beforesunrise.
We were like an hour away so wewoke up around three ish in the
morning so we could go prettyearly right, go see, like we
wanted to see, if we could seewolves or grizzly bears or
anything else that's out thereyeah, pretty early.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Uh, pretty early start.
I'm not used to starting untillike early six.
Six is an early start for me.
Okay, so we're starting asscrack dawn before that, before
anybody's awake.
And the night before, I believe, we had a conversation that we
would get breakfast around nine.
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Okay, I think you said we'd beback.
Oh, we'll be back by nine.
We'll get a nice sit downbreakfast.
Yeah, whatever.
Oh great.
Okay, I think you said we'd beback.
Oh, we'll be back by nine.
We'll get a nice sit downbreakfast.
Yeah, whatever.
Oh great, perfect.
Wake up, do what we need to do,go get breakfast, perfect.
Well, nine o'clock came andgone.
You can take over from now.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
So we were still out there.
It was a very beautiful,enjoyable morning.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Beautiful.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
But then we had the hour-long car ride back.
So we're driving and he's likestarting to get irritated.
We did find I think it wascalled like the Roosevelt Lodge,
but it was already in betweenbreakfast and lunch.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
And I was getting hungry by this point because I
was promised that we would beback by 9 to eat breakfast so.
I'm hungry.
I had expectations.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
They were not met.
Okay, ryan doesn't normally eatbreakfast, so it's like for me.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
When you wake up at 3 am, your body starts to get
hungry.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Ryan, what's the problem?
You don't eat until like 1anyways any other day.
That is a lie 1?
.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Don't know I eat at like 10.30.
Okay, whatever.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
So we go there.
He's obviously pissed off, butit's closed.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I'm what.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Pissed off.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
I obviously pissed off, but it's closed.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Oh, you, I'm what pissed off.
I'm obviously pissed off.
So you, you did notice.
Well, obviously, because Iwanted.
I was like can we go take apicture of this deer?
And you're like no, so then weget in the car and it was a deer
, are you kidding?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
it was at the lodge yes a real one are you joking?
I don't remember that.
Yes, I was.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
let's stop and pull over and take a picture of the
deer he had.
Like he was a buck, he had big.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Oh, I thought you meant while we were walking in
the lodge.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
No, Okay, no, so we get back in the car and keep on
driving.
And finally we did find apull-off that we could go to and
I go pull over and as we'regetting out of the car, I'm like
, are you mad at me?
Speaker 1 (28:54):
The one thing you don't want to ask.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
And you said don't even talk to me.
Don't even talk to me, I'mhungry, that's all I said.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Oh, I said I'm hungry .
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Okay.
So if you're hungry, what doyou need?
Food, food, and once you getfood, no, but you were so mad.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
I feel.
No, but you were, you were somad, I don't.
I feel like that's not what yousaid, because, but you were
like, don't you dare talk to me,I don't even want to talk to
you.
So then, obviously, I get outof the car, we walk to the food
I'm like crying behind mysunglasses and we get food and
we start eating.
Oh, what do you know?
Somebody starts talking to meuh-huh.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
So if somebody talks to you no, what do you do?
Speaker 2 (29:35):
no, you were so rude in the car so I'm like sitting
there crying and I'm like, well,I'm not gonna talk to you.
So he's oh yeah, do you likeyour hot dog?
Oh, did you like the animals?
And I'm like you.
You told me not to talk to youand then the yet.
Then you get mad at me becauseI said you told me not to talk
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to you and then the yet.
Then you get mad at me becauseI said you told me not to talk
to you and you say have a greattrip, we won't talk the rest of
the trip.
And so we spent an hour drivingback to our hotel.
I'm crying.
I wanted to do all these nicepull-offs because it was so we
hadn't seen the mountains,because we were driving when it
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was dark, and he's like I'm notpulling over, so I'm just
sobbing on the way back.
You never apologized.
All you did was, after we tooka nap, was try and cuddle with
me, and that was your stupid wayof apologizing.
Yeah.
But you told me not to talk toyou, so why would I then go talk
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to you?
After one, you were mean to me.
Two you told me not to talk toyou, so why are you striking?
Speaker 1 (30:40):
up a conversation with me because I had food and I
was fine well, you didn't saydon't talk to me until I think
we have food, no, and like youwere so mean about it.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
So I'd like to know, please comment, whose side are
you on?
Would you be petty as well andsay well, if you're not going to
talk to me, I'm not going totalk to you.
Even after you've had food, youtold me not to talk to you.
I want to know whose sideyou're on.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
So you just called yourself petty.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Well, yeah, oh.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Look at you.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
But why would I talk to you if you were mean to me
and you just told me not to talkto you?
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Because I'm striking up a conversation with you, so
you know you want to be a goodperson and talk back.
You could have easilyapologized.
I'm like, hey, sorry, I didapologize I said I'm sorry that
you didn't understand how I wasfeeling the hell up.
So those are some things thatI'm sure that's the real shit
yeah, I'm sure any couple goesto things but that's the shit
you don't see on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
No, it's not On social media, you see.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Oh, my God, I'm so happy to be with my guy.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Oh, my God, it's the perfect trip, because what?
Speaker 2 (31:42):
did we post later that day Like a picture of us
like cuddling, looking at themountain views.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Oh, it's so cute.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Meanwhile, just five hours before I'm sobbing on an
hour-long car ride right, butyou know what?
That's, that's what we do.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
That's what couples do that builds character, and
now we look back and laugh on it.
In earlier years that littleblow up probably would have
lasted a week probably, but youknow what?
Speaker 2 (32:06):
we've gotten it down to six hours well, I think
that's funny, because do youknow why it only lasts six hours
I cuddle with you and you no,because I have to get over it
when you don't freakingapologize to me.
That's the issue.
So the reason these fightsaren't taking long because I'm
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forced to get over it.
Any women out there?
Does he just not apologize?
Am I the?
Speaker 1 (32:32):
only one.
I told you I apologized.
You did not.
I said I'm.
You didn't understand how Ifelt.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
No, you need to learn how to do an actual apology.
Any therapist would like tocome on and coach him on the
correct way to apologize to yourwife.
We would be happy to have youon Anything else.
That's about all.
Somehow I can think ofsurviving the trip with you.
That's it.
Yeah, are there other things?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
I don't know.
If that's it, then we're doinggreat.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I think for the most part we like the same things.
We like taking things slow,taking in nature, spending the
time taking photos.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
I think if we didn't have the same interests not
interests but the sameexpectations, I guess of a trip,
then it would not be good, likewhen we go on French trips.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yeah, I think that's so much harder.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Because some people just want to go, go, go, go go.
We are not like that.
We like to take it slow, sit ata place for 30 minutes taking
pictures where they want to.
All right, let's get to thenext spot.
Or it's like if there'swildlife viewing, I'm waking up
at the ass crack of dawn.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
For that, yeah, me too, because I'm the one taking
pictures and I have to.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
So you're forced to, because that's our itinerary and
you didn't help plan anything Iwill say I feel like it's a lot
easier waking up that early onvacation.
Weirdly, oh for sure, because Imean, I don't know, it's
something special well, and youfor us?
Speaker 2 (33:58):
we, we always build in a good nap after so always
depending on who we're traveling.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
If it's just us, always a nap, right.
If we're on a solo trip, alwaysa nap.
Now can you do that with kids?
Speaker 2 (34:10):
I don't think so suckers so you want to talk
about because Yellowstone andmost of our trips we do alone,
solo child free.
But these last two cruiseswe've done have been with our
friends who do have kids and itis definitely a striking
difference between travelingwith and without children.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yeah, so the cruise that we just got back from was
our friend's cruise, so it wasus and two other couples.
Both of those couples have twokids, boys.
They are older.
I think the youngest one is, Iwant to say, 10.
Oldest one, 16.
15.
15, 15 years old.
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So they range from 10 to 15.
Four, four kids, four boys.
And it was funny.
I would say funny is the word Iwould use to describe it it's
funny because I don't think um.
I wouldn't consider our onegroup of friends traditional
parents no like, not what yousee not at all but, like if I
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was a, I'd probably want to belike them, right, because they
are more what would you say?
What word?
Carefree, a little looser, yeah, I mean, they're strict, but
they have more freedom, which ishow I would want to be, anyways
, traveling with these uhfamilies and the kids.
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What, uh, what did you notice?
Speaker 2 (35:41):
so I I've listed like experiences with children
versus, you know, travelingchild free.
So with children it's just likethey obviously have their own
wants and needs that they wantto do understandable and so on a
cruise.
It does help and, like we said,they they give their kids a
little bit more freedom so theydo get to go off and kind of do
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things that they want to do bythemselves.
But then also sometimes theparents would leave and be like,
okay, we're gonna go do thiswith the kids on the cruise and
you know we're all in the poollike drinking, and then they
have to leave and go watch theirkids do do the flow rider do
the flow rider, and so it's like, oh, oh, like they have to go
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take their kids.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
I have to leave the or they have to like chaperone
them to do that because they'renot old enough to do certain
things by themselves right.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
So it's like you know planning a trip, and then it's
not just about what you want,it's about what the kids want,
or what the kids canrealistically do Like you're not
hiking to a mountaintop with athree-year-old.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Well, I did see, when we were at Yellowstone, a
couple people with the littlekids on their backpacks.
Oh, what about that dog?
We did see.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Oh my God, See, I would do that with my dogs.
Oh, what about that dog we didsee?
Oh my god it was.
See, I would do that with mydogs.
There was a little frenchie whowas at grand prismatic and they
had him in a baby carrier, onthe dad's back, and he was he
was back, just smiling, he washaving the best time.
See, I would totally do thatwith my dogs, but I think
obviously there's a lot moreplanning that goes into it with
kids, because, okay, we needsnacks.
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What are they gonna eat what?
What are they going to drink?
They don't want to go to somebougie dining thing, I will say
the kids did really good when wewent to those fancy restaurants
but they are older they areolder, yeah, but makes it easier
it does, and they do eat moresophisticated.
But god, if these were kids whoonly wanted chicken nuggets, I
don't know how that would have.
That would have worked out.
(37:35):
Um, I, yeah, that's one of thethings I put, like trying to eat
dinner all together, I thinkwork things around them right?
um well, another thing is justlike the fighting oh my god with
a sibling sibling fighting,with it being four boys of
different ages, I was like, ohmy god, like kids, it was a lot
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kids putting each other in likea headlock, and then the other
one crying, and then the olderone was like I don't want to
deal with these kids and I'mlike, oh my god, this is a lot
for me to handle.
Like that's a lot of emotions,a lot of having converse,
pulling the kids to the side youneed to get along with your
brother blah, blah, blah.
And I'm like, oh my god, thatlife is just it was exhausting
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just watching like we walked upon them and the parents were
gone and I'm like yeah, I mean.
I'm not.
Yeah, I'm like I'm not greatwith kids.
So the parents had left and wehad just gotten back from eating
and I'm like, hey, kids.
And then I'm like the one is inthe corner crying and I'm like,
well, I don't even, what do Ido?
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I'm not gonna parent them, whatam I?
What am I supposed to do?
I don't know what happened Ijust gotta let them cry it out
so like they're not, thesiblings aren't talking, and I'm
just like okay, you guys, youguys have fun now so it's, and
then the parents came back anddealt with it yeah, and then
it's just taking time to dealwith it.
Oh my God.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
What a buzzkill.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Ruined our trip and they're listening.
Your kids ruined our trip.
Man, I'm just kidding.
What is that voice?
I don't know.
I would say the added cost tobring kids.
The added cost to definitelybring kids, because for us, when
we price out a vacation like,let's say, we want to go on like
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one of those new royal, royalcaribbean ships next year next
star of the seas we love royalcaribbean, by the way.
So for us we're only trying toget one room for two people and
we're like trying to talk theminto let's do this, and they're
like that's like ten thousanddollars.
For us we have to get a wholenother room for two kids and
we're like, oh, come on youcould put all four in one, oh,
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but then you got to stay withyour kids the one couple did
that I'm like no, absolutely notbless them.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Yes also, I don't know if you have this on your
list um nooners, like if you, ifyou're sharing a room with a
kid.
I don't know if you have thison your list nooners, like if
you're sharing a room with a kid.
I don't know if this is on yourlist.
No, it's not Okay, like what ifyou're, you know, feeling a
little frisky and want to get alittle alone time?
Speaker 2 (40:09):
That's impossible.
The kids have to be out of theroom.
I think they were almost caughtat one point because the kids
came back.
That's just something I don'twant to deal with, although I
will say for us we go on thesetrips and do we have sex every
day?
Absolutely not.
We're lucky for like once ortwice a trip, because we're out
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doing stuff all day and I'm notthere for a lovemaking session.
I know I'm there to experiencewhat we're there to experience,
but you know, if you're in themood, that does make it very
difficult you gotta time itright, but I think being a
parent like you have to do thatanyway, even at home.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
I think, I think I hear yeah, you gotta kind of.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
I'm sure I will say another thing.
It's just the hazards that comealong with taking a kid on
trips with you yeah.
Like, for example, the cruise.
You know, god forbid, what ifthe kid falls overboard or
something.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
That had just happened over on a.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Yeah, that Disney cruise.
The child fell I don't knowwhat really happened and then
the dad jumped in.
So that's something you have toworry about on a cruise getting
lost.
So not this past year or notthis last cruise, but a year ago
we went to Coco Cay and one ofour friends their kid, thought
they were somewhere else, so hehopped on a tram and went to the
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other side of the island and weweren't with them because we
were at the adults only sectionso we had no idea any of this
was going on.
I was too busy at the swim upbar but I guess they had like an
hour long search to try andfind this kid and he was just
lost on the island, yeah, justriding the tram back and forth
they couldn't find him.
They finally found him.
I can't imagine how terrifyingthat is as a parent.
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No, so there's just all thesehazards.
And then, thinking about yellow, you think your anxiety is bad.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
No, I would not make it.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
I would not make it.
Or like thinking aboutYellowstone, yellowstone,
they've got all of these thermalfeatures, geysers wild animals.
Yeah, wild animals.
And if you you have to stay onthe boardwalks in the paved
areas, god forbid.
What if your kid stepped offand felt like somebody
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no-transcript them and they gooff?
Or those bison are nasty outthere.
So if, like, a kid gets tooclose, it's just so many hazards
that I would not want to beresponsible for.
No.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
I remember when I was a teenager, I think I went to
SeaWorld with my cousins.
Okay, so I was older, they werea little younger, but SeaWorld
has that obstacle course wherethe kids can climb through.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
I guess one of my cousins had gone through there
but never came out.
I mean he had eventually didhe's still alive, um but he went
in and, like his mom, my auntwas like where is he, yeah, and
I was like I don't know, I mean,I was probably 16 were you
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probably 16 so you were theresponsible party?
Speaker 2 (43:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
Oh my god, here's another thing here's another
thing I lost her shit, oh wherewas he?
I think he was still in thing.
I think he went in but thencame back out like the entrance
way, because I think it wassupposed to go in one way and
then go through and come out theother way.
But but I don't think he didthat.
I think he went in and thenturned around and came back out
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through the entrance.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Oh my God.
See, that's just stuff I don'twant to deal with.
Yeah, my anxiety would be at anall-time high.
Is my anxiety taking over me?
Yeah, I don't know why.
That reminded me of a fieldtrip when I was younger.
And my childhood best friendgot on the wrong bus and people
were freaking out.
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But my mom was a chaperone andhad my childhood best friend
right next to her, but peoplewere freaking out.
It's just like things like that, like just accounting for all
the kids, like where are they atall times?
Speaker 1 (44:31):
I mean, I remember when I was a kid I was supposed
to get on a bus to go to, like,after school here no I walked
home.
This is a when I was a kid.
I was supposed to get on a busto go to like after school care.
No, I walked home.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
This is a kindergarten.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
I was in kindergarten .
I tried to get my friend.
I was like hey, let's just walkhome.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
See, kids have a mind of their own and you just don't
know.
Yeah, that's not, that'ssomething.
I love traveling, and I canonly put up with you.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
I mean, you got one child to watch.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
And all of your shenanigans, I will say I do
love traveling with our dogs, sothat's something that I'm
trying to do more of, and I meanthat's still.
Anxiety yeah that's stillsomething to worry about.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
We went to oh my God, are they having fun?
Speaker 2 (45:10):
I do think about that .
I'm like, like, are my dogshaving fun?
A few years ago we went toHelen Georgia right after
Christmas and this is so stupid.
But like, I want my dogs tohave experiences and I'm sure
that's the same way parents feelabout their actual children but
we went and it was snowing andI was like half in tears because
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I was like, oh my god, my dogsare seeing snow for the first
time and I'm like they loved it.
They do not give a crap thatit's snowing, but I took a video
and I was you know, it's a goodmemory for me and we stayed on
a creek and they were playing inthe creek and we had a big
backyard and they were justrunning around like crazy in the
big backyard and that's what Ilove, the big backyard, and
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that's what I love.
So I think we're definitelytrying to plan more with our
dogging kids in the future andjust seeing them have those
memories and us having memorieswith them.
So I get it, because to methat's those are my children
that I want to make memorieswith.
So I definitely get.
Obviously, people want totravel and have those memories
with their actual childrendifferences.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
We don't have to worry about ours fighting or
putting one in a headlock andthe other one crying, and then
we have to scold them and talkGet along with you.
Yeah, get.
Along.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
What would you say the perks are of traveling
child-free?
Do you have a list?
I actually have some thingsthat I.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
What was the question I zoned out?
Speaker 2 (46:24):
Oh my, we're filming.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Sorry, I was thinking about the dogs and how cute
they are.
They are so cute.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Do you have any pluses of traveling child free
Child?
Free.
Do you have any pluses oftraveling child free?
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Pluses of traveling child free.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
What are the perks to you?
I have some very specificthings.
Yes, saving money um peace.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
Yes, what do you got?
Speaker 2 (46:58):
I have that.
We get our own beds, and notevery couple does this?
but I like to get a quick liketwo queen beds in a room and we
sleep separately and you can Imean I guess you could do that
if you got two rooms with thekid but if you're sharing a big
room you're sleeping with yourhusband or you're sleeping with
a kid, but I love just havingour own beds.
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On vacation, I would say ingeneral, it's just easier.
Like I have down flying likeflying is so much easier.
You're not having to put thekid in front of an ipad or
hearing them cry or I need to goto the bathroom every five
seconds.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
So I think worrying about where they are in the
airport.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Oh, my god, yeah, the airport is so scary, just
keeping them occupied for, likeif we were doing a long flight,
because it takes like six hoursto get to seattle, and even for
me I'm like, oh my.
God this is a long flight, likejust trying to keep a kid
occupied.
That long you don't have todeal with a tired kid, so like
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cranky.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
Yeah, I just have to deal with you.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
I have to deal with you, so we can be out as long as
we want, do what we want.
You know, sometimes we do havereally long days.
Oh yeah or like that, that longmorning where we were out from
3 am to like 11 am.
You couldn't do that with a kid.
They'd be whining and wantingto go back to sleep, and so it's
nice to really just have it onour own terms.
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I think we talked about thisbefore less costly and then not
having to worry about thehazards.
Yeah.
So those are some of my bigthings for traveling child-free.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
I will agree with all of those Just thinking about
our next trip and how great it'sgoing to be without a child.
Where are we going next?
Speaker 2 (48:43):
So I would love to plan a few more weekend trips
for the rest of the year.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
Well, we've got to follow.
Keep up with our 7-7-7.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
7-7-7-7.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
We've been doing good on the weekly outings.
Um, but seven days, seven weeks, seven months, right yes so we
need to do one.
What seven weeks from now?
Speaker 2 (49:05):
yeah, because it's like a day trip or a weekend
trip.
So I would love to do somethingwith the dogs at this point.
So I I really want to plan afew of those, but also, I don't
know, next year I really want totalk my parents into going back
to banff and going to glacieryeah so I think that's my goal
for next year, for our big tripis glacier national park and
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banff national park and thenstar of the seas we have a lot
to talk about.
If you can convince your friendsand I know you're listening if
you could convince your husbandto go on Star of the Seas, I
might go with you.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
Oh, there it is.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
Calling you out right now there it is, if you can
convince him I might change my2027 cruise and go on Star of
the Seas with you.
That's all I got to say.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
All right, you heard it here first.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Ladies and gentlemen, Well, we hope that, whether
you're traveling with kids ortraveling without kids, that you
have a good trip.
Let me know are you the plannerin the relationship?
Is your spouse the planner?
Speaker 1 (50:03):
Do they just drive like me, or did they just drive
you crazy like me?
Speaker 2 (50:07):
How often do you fight?
Speaker 1 (50:18):
I want to know do you fight?
I want to know do?
Speaker 2 (50:19):
you have fights that are very similar to what we have
.
I can't be the only one who isstill really upset by my lack of
apology that I perceived.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
I'm sorry you felt that way.
Stop it.
Well, that's all for now, untilwe drink again.
Bye.
Hello everyone, my name's Ryan.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And my name's Emma.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Welcome to.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Drinks with the Dinks .
Welcome back to another episode.
We actually just got off of acruise, a little friends trip,
so we thought why not talk aboutwhat it's like to vacation
together?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Yes, this was actually our second annual
friends cruise.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
We weren't going to go on this trip, but somebody
talked me into it.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
You're going to turn down a vacation.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
No, vacations are life for me.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
You have two more planned already, don't you?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I do, you just don't know it yet.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
All right.
So vacationing as a couple,vacationing as childless couple
where do you want to begin?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Well, let's talk about where we like to go.
I guess we can start and give alittle background about where
we love to vacation.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Where we like to go the most or just in general.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I think just in general.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Okay, so we're I would say we're West Coasties.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Oh my God, we are PNW people.
We love it.
I love the coast.
I'm like not a beach girl but Ilove those beaches over there
in the PNW, the mountains.
I'm a mountain girl at heart soI love being anywhere the
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mountains are, so we love goingto the Pacific Northwest.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
And our number one favorite spot is.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Washington State.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
The San Juan Islands.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
We love the San Juan Islands.
I'm a big orca lover so that'slike my favorite place.
We go there about every I wouldsay two to three years Is that
right Two to three, we wentthere for our honeymoon.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
We did I mean it wasn't right after we got
married, but I think a year orso after yeah, we went a year
after and I just I never wouldhave thought.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I mean, obviously we were like, okay, we want to go
see Orcas, we're excited aboutthat, but I just never would
have fallen in love with a placelike that the way that I did
you cried.
I did?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I sobbed because you were always a fan of orcas.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I wanted to see willie guys, I brought my free
willie necklace I don't know ifany of you guys had the VHS and
then you got the necklace withit.
I legit brought my free willienecklace.
And then I also brought aharmonica and literally on the
San Juan Islands I played theharmonica and they came um, not
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for the harmonica, but they didI think it was but we did see
them.
It's one of the mostspectacular things I've ever
lived through, and so we reallywant to retire there.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I love it so much hopefully retire there within
the next couple years help usout.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
We'd love to be able to just move across the country
and help a girl fulfill herdream.
That's my dream, that's my lifegoal.
I don't need a huge house.
I will live in a tiny house ona plot of land.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I live in a van.
I know I would live in an RVnot a tiny little van, the
biggest RV you can find.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yes, I want a massive RV.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Basically a house on wheels.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yes, essentially, but other places we love.
We actually just went toYellowstone this year and that
it's so crazy.
It's so vast and there's somany thermal features I just
I've never seen.
Obviously I've never seenanything like it in my life.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
It was like another planet.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
It did look like another planet.
It was outstanding.
So I will say I love that, lovethe tetons national parks.
Yeah, we're big national parkpeople.
I mean, like I said, we justgot off of a cruise, so we do
love cruising.
I grew up cruising with myfamily, so that's always been a
thing for me and that's how Igot into cruising.
Yeah, it is family that's right,and so we've always loved that.
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But we go to the same places.
I guess, technically, with themountains, we go to the same
places too, but I don't know.
The mountains are just in myheart and soul.
That's where I need to be um.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
The mountains are calling and I must go.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Is there any?
We have not.
I will say we have not beenoverseas to like Europe yet, and
that's that's definitely wherewe want to go eventually.
But I'm just so nervous about I.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
We've planned trips.
We have planned, we've hadtrips booked, but we never
actually go through with it.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Like Italy.
We've booked two times.
Covid happened so we couldn'tgo, and then we had a cruise
booked over to Greece and Italyand I just I'm so terrified of
the travel aspect, like goingoverseas and like transit, I
don't know.
It absolutely terrifies me.
I need to get over that fear sothat we can go, but I do.
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I want to go see Greece, I wantto go see Italy, I would love
to go to Norway.
Obviously it's very similar tolike Alaska.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
That's where you want to swim with the whales.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Oh, my lifelong goal is to swim with orcas.
I will do that one day,hopefully sooner rather than
later and I will film it frominside the boat no, you are
jumping.
This man will never swim withdolphins, which I don't really
condone that like in captivity.
Anyways, you're terrified we'vesaid this before you're
terrified of anything that'slarger than you.
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So I, I would actually like tofilm you like.
I would love to like push youin the water.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I would have a heart attack.
I would die.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
That would be my burial site oh, they could smell
the fear on you I mean, I loveorcas they're my favorite, one
of my favorite animals, but I'mokay not swimming with them.
No, if we're paying thousandsof dollars, you would be getting
in the water with me.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
You have to, though I have to pay just to be on the
boat.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yes, so you might as well jump in with me.
Oh my God, that would be sofunny.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I think that would go viral.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
So I think I'm more of like a cool weather, girly
mountain girly.
I hate being hot.
So even though the cruise wasfun, it's like miserable outside
.
You just want to be in thewater at all times.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah, not too big on the tropical.
Every once in a while is good,but for the most part mountains,
cool weather, climate, like Ithink.
Let me pull up the weatherright now.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Are you pulling it up ?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I'm pulling up the weather right now.
Are you pulling it up?
I'm pulling up the weather insan juan island, so currently it
is 59 degrees oh, that's adream with a high of 72 oh my
god, I would love that that'sperfect just year round.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I mean, obviously it's mid-summer right now, so
it's gonna drip, dip down, butbut I mean, that's my perfect
summer weather not 104 degrees,no thanks, so we?
I think out of college is whenI really was like you know what
balls to the wall I'm gonnatravel bug yes, I was like I'm
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gonna travel.
We did like I said.
We did cruises with my familyso much that I I I only saw the
same.
Yeah, I only saw the same likethree or four places in my life
and I'm like I am so tired ofyou know wasting vacation time
to just go on cruises to thesame exact places and I'm like I
want to branch out and seeother parts.
(06:58):
Yeah, I want to see the world.
So I think that's really when Istarted saying you know what?
I'm going to plan as many tripsas I can, even when we're not
financially able to afford them.
No, we are, but it's definitelya lot.
I mean, it would be a lot moreif we had kids.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
But 100 percent.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
What would you say are our jobs when traveling?
Like what, oh?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
this is easy like because starting from the point
where we decide, hey, let's do atrip right, how?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
how do we vape?
I would say, how do we vacationplan like?
What does that look like for usas a couple?
How do we vacation?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
all right.
So what I do is I get told whatwe're going to do, and then we
get there and then my job kicksin.
So you're admitting, so I thinkyou need to talk about how we
vacation plan, because I don'tknow.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Well, you thought of the topic jobs and I'm like what
does he actually think he'sgoing to say was his job?
Because he doesn't plananything.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Listen, I know what my job is and I do a great job
at it, but my job has not comeup yet, so you need to start
with your job of how the wholeplanning process goes.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
So I book every single vacation.
He acts like he doesn't want togo to these places.
I do.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I don't act like I don't want to go.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I'm saying you just said like well, I do talk to him
and say like hey, these arelike the vacations I'm thinking
of doing.
Are you okay with those?
So I'm not just bookingsomething and saying like, deal
with it, it's places that wewant to go.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
I mean honestly, I would go anywhere.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Right, I would go anywhere with you?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah, it's not the place, it's just.
I'll go on any trip.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Once I see that price tag kind of kind of hits me for
somebody.
Somebody does get mad at me ofthe prices of some of these, but
it's okay.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
It's okay.
Are you talking to yourself?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I think memories mean more.
You see all those posts thatit's like travel now, worry
about the money later.
That's so my mindset mindsetand it's so actually
irresponsible, but I don't care.
We've made some great memoriesover the last 18 plus years
together, traveling.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
So it's all thanks to you.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I literally book everything.
People always say, oh my God,you should be a travel planner.
I don't know how well I dodoing it for other people,
because I travel plan tospecifically what we want.
We're a very specific type ofperson like.
We're not overly adventurous,we like wildlife watching, we
like small trails taking ourtime yeah, taking our time.
(09:36):
so I will go like on Pinterestand find, hey, like the
itineraries.
I love those blogs that arelike oh, here's your three day
itinerary for this and that, andthen I book everything and then
plan out every single day.
So I literally get on a map andI like map everything out to
say, okay, here's what we'redoing day one, day two, day
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three.
So I map it to a T and then wefly there, we get there and then
I think your job really kicksin.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yep, we pick up the car and I start driving.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
And then Ryan's job is to drive everywhere.
I do not drive, I don't eventhink I get on the insurance
most of the time.
I just let you do the drivingand you know what.
He's perfectly fine with that,so that's fine.
You do have another job, though.
You take all the photos, you,so that's fine you do have
another job, though you take allthe photos you record.
Okay, ryan loves photography,it's one of my hobbies.
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He's got some good photos outthere.
I will say that We'll have topost them sometime.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah, so I'm the driver.
I enjoy driving, especially outwest.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yes, because it's not boring.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
There's stuff to see wherever you're going and it's
beautiful, it's so beautiful,it's just a whole nother
experience than driving where weare right now.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
What is your favorite vehicle to drive?
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Truck, 100% truck.
But hey, some people ask youknow, can you handle it?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
We went to Yellowstone and they were like
running out of vehicles.
I booked like the cheapest carthere is and we get up there and
I looked outside in the parkinglot.
I'm like there's literallynothing left.
And the guy was like hey, doyou want a truck?
Speaker 1 (11:11):
And I In front of this man.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I said, Ryan, do you think you can handle a truck?
Speaker 1 (11:17):
In front of this man.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I didn't know that was so demasculating.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, is that a word?
I think so I was like the nerveI don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I'm like, is it a shift like a stick shift truck?
or if it was a manual, then wewould have a problem because,
right, I'm not trained in thatwell, I mean, I didn't know if
you could handle a big like f.
I drove a truck for work yearsago but you did good and now you
want a truck 100% after that itwas really nice.
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Actually, that was one of myfavorite vehicles we've ever had
.
Perfect for the dogs we got tojust sit on the back when we
went animal watching and justposted up on the bed of the
truck and took photos andwatched animals and it was
amazing.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
We lived our Yellowstone dream, our
Yellowstone dream.
Speaking of Yellowstone dream,though, two years ago was when
we were originally supposed togo to Yellowstone.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
It is so we actually, I think it was three years ago,
it was 2022.
Yes it was 2022.
So I had I'd planned this twoweek extravagant not extravagant
, but two week trip.
We were going to go to GrandTeton, we were going to
Yellowstone and then we weredriving down to Rocky Mountain
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National Park.
So we did Grand Teton and thenight before we were leaving for
Yellowstone there was like aslight rain storm Slight rain.
It was not a lot of rain.
So we woke up and it was ourtime to go to Yellowstone.
And you know, if you've seen iton the map, grand Teton and
Yellowstone they're back to back.
So we just drive up about anhour, we get to the ranger
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station to get into Yellowstoneand they go yeah, so sorry
you're not getting in at thegate, like at the gate, and
we're like what?
What do you mean?
and they go yeah, so sorry,you're not getting in.
At the gate.
Like at the gate, and we'relike what, what do you mean?
And they turned every singleperson away and we were like
what is going on?
so finally, like we start seeingthe news where roads had like
completely flushed out washedaway I was sobbing because
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usually, like, if things don'tgo to plan for me, I am
devastated and I don't do wellin those situations, so I'm like
sobbing.
We were like do we stay hereand see if we can get in
tomorrow, or do we change ourplans?
And I think you were like let'sstay and see if we can get in.
And I was like there's no waythey're letting us in there
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tomorrow with roads completelygone.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
I'm an optimist oh my god.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
no, that would have been pointless, so I had to
rework that entire part of thetrip and then we ended up going
to Steamboat Springs in Coloradoand then went to the Rocky
Mountains.
So while that was horrible,it's a funny story.
We talked to a lot of people inYellowstone about how we were
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at the gate and they shuteverybody down and we heard some
crazy stories about peopleevacuating.
But I'm glad it didn't happenthen because I feel like it
would have been rushed and thattwo-week trip and this way, we
had more time this trip.
Yeah, we did a whole week there,so I think I'm more
appreciative.
We have what we call travelangels.
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It's like all of our familythat's passed and I truly think
they watch over us and give usthe best trips possible and.
I think that was them sayinglike nope, this is not your time
to go to Yellowstone.
Your time will be when you have, you know, like a full week to
really appreciate it.
And I feel like we really didthis time.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
whenever we're on trip, there's always something
that's like oh my God, thatnever happens, or the weather's
never this beautiful.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Like, or it's like, oh, the week before it rained or
the week after it snowed and wewere there at this like ideal
timeframe.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Always works out.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
We get very lucky.
I'm very appreciative of that.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
So driving my job, and then that's about it.
Right, I'm done my job's over.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
And I think we both pick food places.
I'm not like a huge foodie inthat sense where I'm like, oh, I
want to go try the local food.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
So we're just kind of I usually just pull up a map
and be like how does this sound?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yeah, sure, pull up a map and be like, um, where we
want to go.
How does this sound?
Speaker 1 (15:39):
yeah sure, I will say what I really recommend this.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Um, it's not an ad, but I just I would love it to be
an ad, but get, uh, not getyour guide.
Oh my gosh, guide along.
Oh my god, we love that, yeah,guide along.
So it's like, um, somebody whotalks to you and it based on gps
.
Yes, it's based on gps and itwill tell you things as you're
driving and tell you differentpull-offs.
So we use that for the firsttime at yellowstone.
Amazing I was when we wereleaving the park and the guy was
like all right, well, we hopeyou had a good time.
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I actually got a little sadbecause I was like, oh my god,
we've.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I feel like we know we're leaving a friend right.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
I feel like we know this guy for an entire week and
he was really helpful because,even as much as I'm a planner,
there was stuff that he was like, hey, pull over here, that I
didn't even look up.
So I really recommend it.
It's called guide along.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I think they do a lot of national parks yeah, and I
think they said they're addingmore yeah every year, so I would
100 recommend yeah, that wasamazing oh I'm reminiscing on
the trip now.
I miss it.
How did you say we plan ordecide where to go?
Well, how do you decide wherewe go?
Because you want it to besomething for both of us, that
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we both would enjoy, but how doyou make the decision on where
to go?
I don't know you just?
Oh, I saw this place on a video, or probably.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Yeah, okay, we should I mean we usually pick, like
you said, like out west is wherewe usually choose to go and I
just kind of stick to thenational parks yeah, I mean
we're trying to tick off all thenational parks tick off.
Who are we ticking off?
The list I really we need to.
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We need to go to, like theArizona places, the Utah places.
I do know the Grand Canyon ishaving a massive fire right now,
so my heart goes out to.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
The Grand Canyon.
Yes, I didn't hear about that.
You haven't seen that.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Oh my God, my heart goes out to everybody who's
battling that or who's, you know, lost something.
I know the lot, like one of thebig lodges, got burned, but it
said I saw a news article thatsaid it was the smoke plume is
so big it's creating its ownweather.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Jesus.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
So my heart goes out to everybody who's dealing with
that right now?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Do we know what started it?
Because of the heat?
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I don't know, I can't remember, but oh, but that's
going to be so devastating.
We haven't been to the GrandCanyon, so that's definitely on
our bucket list, so I hope thatthey can get that under control.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Is it on your thousand places to see before
you die?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah, you did get me that book and I need to go
through it.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
How is it?
I've been hoping.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I plan things for myself.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Just like everything I buy you Never used.
That's all right.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
But I'm sure it's on there.
Well, I did want to talk aboutwhat it's like traveling
together as a couple, because,you know, as amazing as our
trips are, there are things thatI think every couple fights,
you know, when you're travelingtogether.
I mean, you fight at home, youfight when you're on a trip.
So what is it like surviving atrip?
Speaker 1 (18:34):
with your significant other.
I think the added stress alsocan cause more fights than
normal, oh for sure.
Because you're out of yourcomfort zone.
You're in a place that youdon't know if it's the first
time traveling there.
So it can definitely cause morestress and I will say we've
gotten better.
I'd like to think we've gottenbetter.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I think so.
We've had more practice on trips, so I am a lot calmer, Like
when we started traveling, likeoh my God, I would be a freaking
wreck on planes and just likeit would be.
Like oh my God, what's going tohappen when we get there.
And I lately have had thisoverwhelming sense of calm, like
as we're starting the trip.
I feel like that's reallyhelped tensions not be so high.
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That's helped me a lot.
And then I've really had totone down on some things, so
like I've got a list of thingsthat I have to survive with you.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I don't know if you have the same, I have no lists
oh, okay, this is a list ofthings like I need to do or
things you need to have with youto be able to survive traveling
with me no, it's surviving.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
The trip for me is like what I have to deal with
the bullshit with you.
That's part of this list.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I can't wait to hear it.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
You don't have that list for me.
No, what did you mean bysurviving the trip then?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
just talking about how to survive a trip with a
significant other when thingsare, you know, not going
perfectly oh well, no, I havespecific items that I've listed
I, I feel like we can't be theonly couple who goes to this.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
They're just like specific little things that just
kind of piss you off about yoursignificant other and it really
gets highlighted.
Okay, it really getshighlighted when you're
traveling together.
I mean, obviously, if you're acouple and you live together,
you see it every day.
But again, I think, just likethe heightened tensions of
traveling and trying to makesure everything goes smoothly,
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that that just makes it worseokay, okay, well, I'll start,
okay, because I only have onething that I could think of, and
it's something you've gottenbetter at okay, it's
backseat driving I that's partof my thing I figured for you.
Yeah, backseat driving oh mygosh you used to be the worst oh
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, he pisses me off when driving.
I like we've gotten in literalarguments to where I'm sobbing
and like we're not speaking forhours because I've talked about
his driving.
So the thing with his drivingand I have had to tone down, but
it just like it eats me alive,like the internal anger that I
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get.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I am not good at directions.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
And having to like have this pent up, it's just
really like oh my God, I need toget this out somehow.
So for him, he's good atdirections.
And having to like have thispent up, it's just really like
oh my God, I need to get thisout somehow.
So for him, he's horrible atdirections.
And if he doesn't turn, this isthe thing I don't know.
If you know that you do this,Okay One, you never turn around.
Yeah, yes, yes.
I cannot stand this.
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So when he misses an exit, hejust keeps freaking driving and
I'm like why, if you knew wewere supposed to turn back there
?
Why are we just drivingaimlessly in the wrong direction
?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
I'm looking for a good place to turn around.
Turn the freaking car around.
I don't want to turn aroundillegally.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Why are we going 10 miles down the road to an
entirely different state at thispoint like to explore when we
could have turned around eightmiles ago.
That angers me so much allright, 10 miles is a little
exaggeration no, you go so far10 miles, I go 10 miles and then
you expect me not to be likehey, what are we doing?
Like why aren't you pulling offand turning around here?
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It makes what, so what, I don'tget what you're like.
Why do you do that?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
because I'm looking for a safe place to turn around.
We've already around in themiddle.
We've already passed 15 otherexits.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Why are you continuing?
Speaker 1 (22:20):
on.
All right, settle down.
This is usually like pullingout of a parking lot or
something that we're just goingdown the wrong road or, if we're
not on the highway.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Oh my God.
Or if, like, we have alreadybeen to that place and you don't
know where we are, to me andthis is I will say you can make
fun of me.
Yes, this is completelyirrational.
I cannot stand it.
If cause I?
So when we go someplace, let'ssay we go there day one, I know
my place, I know my way around.
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Day two, like I've got it down,pat same with like a cruise,
like all right, if we've beenthere day one, I know where my
room is, exactly to a t.
He does not know where we are.
He could, he.
We've lived in our area for youknow 15 years.
He still doesn't know where weare.
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Oh yeah, the Wawa is this waywhat.
We've lived here 15 years, theWawa is not that way.
So, like, imagine being in anew place and he just doesn't
know where we're going.
Oh, my God.
It irritates the hell out of me.
Does it irk you?
It does.
Is it an ick, Like when we wenton the cruise and you kept
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turning down the wrong hallway?
Speaker 1 (23:33):
I did it once.
I'm going to punch you in theface One time Because that's not
where our room is.
I did it once.
I turned down the wrong hallwayonce One time and it was like I
mean, it was a three day cruise, but it was like the second day
.
But things like that I havelimited brain, yeah, I don't
know that part of the memorypart of your brain that is not
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important for me.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Oh my god, that's why we got gps so like but you
don't, if you, you don't evenlisten to the gps, sometimes you
just drive right past itsometimes, sometimes I'm not
paying attention.
I'm getting really, reallyworked up right now I'm getting
very heated, so there's thingslike that, even though I know
that that's completelyirrational, because you're on a
trip, you don't know where youare.
(24:15):
I get it.
So that's, that's on me, that'sdefinitely on me.
Um, I will say another petpeeve I have is you forgetting
things.
Why do I have to make a listfor you?
Speaker 1 (24:30):
You don't have to make a list, to remember, to
bring things.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
You don't have to make a list for you.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
You don't have to make a list to remember to bring
things.
You don't have to make a listfor me.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
If I forget something , then it's not meant to be, and
if it's really important I'llbuy a new one it's just like how
do you not know that you don'thave your phone on you, like
when we went and parked at thecruise terminal.
We get out of the car, we godown in the elevator and it's
weird that I say this.
I was like do you have yourphone?
And you're like, oh no.
So we had to go back up, go tothe car and I'm like, who
doesn't make sure that they havetheir phone on them?
Speaker 1 (24:55):
somebody that's trying to live in the moment
before we get out of the car andget on this cruise.
I don't need my phone, but youdo that a lot.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
You forget things.
I think we forgot like a cameraone time and that really pissed
me off I don't remember one ourtrips, we forgot one of the
cameras.
So like I'm heavy on making alist the night before and then I
literally go through and checkit off and make sure that I have
everything, I don't know whatyou do to pack or get ready, but
it's not working.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
All right, shit talker.
Yellowstone trip What'd youforget?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
What did I forget?
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Your face cream oh.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I did.
Oh, oh, was that not on yourlist?
I bought um.
Ask me what I forgot.
What'd you forget?
Nothing I did.
I bought face cream cause Iwasn't going to put makeup on.
So I wanted um some moisturizerwith SPF and I completely
forgot it.
But that's not the same as likeforgetting your cell phone.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
It's not the same at all.
I'm sorry that the sun doesn'tharm your skin.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I don't need my phone , it's not the same at all what
I do want to bring up, and Iwould love to get people's
opinions on this.
So please comment if you,whatever side you're on on this.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
My side.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
No, I want to talk about the Yellowstone food
incident.
All right, let's talk about it,let's get in it because, I
would you know, we both thinkwe're on the right side of this,
so I want to know what youropinion is all right, I'll start
okay so the night before, Ibelieve, you planned a lovely,
uh early morning, yes, uh,wildlife expedition so we were.
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We wanted to go to lamar valley.
We wanted to get there beforesunrise.
We were like an hour away so wewoke up around three ish in the
morning so we could go prettyearly right, go see, like we
wanted to see, if we could seewolves or grizzly bears or
anything else that's out thereyeah, pretty early.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Uh, pretty early start.
I'm not used to starting untillike early six.
Six is an early start for me.
Okay, so we're starting asscrack dawn before that, before
anybody's awake.
And the night before, I believe, we had a conversation that we
would get breakfast around nine.
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Okay, I think you said we'd beback.
Oh, we'll be back by nine.
We'll get a nice sit downbreakfast.
Yeah, whatever.
Oh great.
Okay, I think you said we'd beback.
Oh, we'll be back by nine.
We'll get a nice sit downbreakfast.
Yeah, whatever.
Oh great, perfect.
Wake up, do what we need to do,go get breakfast, perfect.
Well, nine o'clock came andgone.
You can take over from now.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
So we were still out there.
It was a very beautiful,enjoyable morning.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Beautiful.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
But then we had the hour-long car ride back.
So we're driving and he's likestarting to get irritated.
We did find I think it wascalled like the Roosevelt Lodge,
but it was already in betweenbreakfast and lunch.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
And I was getting hungry by this point because I
was promised that we would beback by 9 to eat breakfast so.
I'm hungry.
I had expectations.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
They were not met.
Okay, ryan doesn't normally eatbreakfast, so it's like for me.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
When you wake up at 3 am, your body starts to get
hungry.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Ryan, what's the problem?
You don't eat until like 1anyways any other day.
That is a lie 1?
.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Don't know I eat at like 10.30.
Okay, whatever.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
So we go there.
He's obviously pissed off, butit's closed.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I'm what.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Pissed off.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
I obviously pissed off, but it's closed.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Oh, you, I'm what pissed off.
I'm obviously pissed off.
So you, you did notice.
Well, obviously, because Iwanted.
I was like can we go take apicture of this deer?
And you're like no, so then weget in the car and it was a deer
, are you kidding?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
it was at the lodge yes a real one are you joking?
I don't remember that.
Yes, I was.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
let's stop and pull over and take a picture of the
deer he had.
Like he was a buck, he had big.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Oh, I thought you meant while we were walking in
the lodge.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
No, Okay, no, so we get back in the car and keep on
driving.
And finally we did find apull-off that we could go to and
I go pull over and as we'regetting out of the car, I'm like
, are you mad at me?
Speaker 1 (28:54):
The one thing you don't want to ask.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
And you said don't even talk to me.
Don't even talk to me, I'mhungry, that's all I said.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Oh, I said I'm hungry .
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Okay.
So if you're hungry, what doyou need?
Food, food, and once you getfood, no, but you were so mad.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
I feel.
No, but you were, you were somad, I don't.
I feel like that's not what yousaid, because, but you were
like, don't you dare talk to me,I don't even want to talk to
you.
So then, obviously, I get outof the car, we walk to the food
I'm like crying behind mysunglasses and we get food and
we start eating.
Oh, what do you know?
Somebody starts talking to meuh-huh.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
So if somebody talks to you no, what do you do?
Speaker 2 (29:35):
no, you were so rude in the car so I'm like sitting
there crying and I'm like, well,I'm not gonna talk to you.
So he's oh yeah, do you likeyour hot dog?
Oh, did you like the animals?
And I'm like you.
You told me not to talk to youand then the yet.
Then you get mad at me becauseI said you told me not to talk
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to you and then the yet.
Then you get mad at me becauseI said you told me not to talk
to you and you say have a greattrip, we won't talk the rest of
the trip.
And so we spent an hour drivingback to our hotel.
I'm crying.
I wanted to do all these nicepull-offs because it was so we
hadn't seen the mountains,because we were driving when it
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was dark, and he's like I'm notpulling over, so I'm just
sobbing on the way back.
You never apologized.
All you did was, after we tooka nap, was try and cuddle with
me, and that was your stupid wayof apologizing.
Yeah.
But you told me not to talk toyou, so why would I then go talk
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to you?
After one, you were mean to me.
Two you told me not to talk toyou, so why are you striking?
Speaker 1 (30:40):
up a conversation with me because I had food and I
was fine well, you didn't saydon't talk to me until I think
we have food, no, and like youwere so mean about it.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
So I'd like to know, please comment, whose side are
you on?
Would you be petty as well andsay well, if you're not going to
talk to me, I'm not going totalk to you.
Even after you've had food, youtold me not to talk to you.
I want to know whose sideyou're on.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
So you just called yourself petty.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Well, yeah, oh.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Look at you.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
But why would I talk to you if you were mean to me
and you just told me not to talkto you?
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Because I'm striking up a conversation with you, so
you know you want to be a goodperson and talk back.
You could have easilyapologized.
I'm like, hey, sorry, I didapologize I said I'm sorry that
you didn't understand how I wasfeeling the hell up.
So those are some things thatI'm sure that's the real shit
yeah, I'm sure any couple goesto things but that's the shit
you don't see on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
No, it's not On social media, you see.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Oh, my God, I'm so happy to be with my guy.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Oh, my God, it's the perfect trip, because what?
Speaker 2 (31:42):
did we post later that day Like a picture of us
like cuddling, looking at themountain views.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Oh, it's so cute.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Meanwhile, just five hours before I'm sobbing on an
hour-long car ride right, butyou know what?
That's, that's what we do.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
That's what couples do that builds character, and
now we look back and laugh on it.
In earlier years that littleblow up probably would have
lasted a week probably, but youknow what?
Speaker 2 (32:06):
we've gotten it down to six hours well, I think
that's funny, because do youknow why it only lasts six hours
I cuddle with you and you no,because I have to get over it
when you don't freakingapologize to me.
That's the issue.
So the reason these fightsaren't taking long because I'm
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forced to get over it.
Any women out there?
Does he just not apologize?
Am I the?
Speaker 1 (32:32):
only one.
I told you I apologized.
You did not.
I said I'm.
You didn't understand how Ifelt.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
No, you need to learn how to do an actual apology.
Any therapist would like tocome on and coach him on the
correct way to apologize to yourwife.
We would be happy to have youon Anything else.
That's about all.
Somehow I can think ofsurviving the trip with you.
That's it.
Yeah, are there other things?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
I don't know.
If that's it, then we're doinggreat.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I think for the most part we like the same things.
We like taking things slow,taking in nature, spending the
time taking photos.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
I think if we didn't have the same interests not
interests but the sameexpectations, I guess of a trip,
then it would not be good, likewhen we go on French trips.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yeah, I think that's so much harder.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Because some people just want to go, go, go, go go.
We are not like that.
We like to take it slow, sit ata place for 30 minutes taking
pictures where they want to.
All right, let's get to thenext spot.
Or it's like if there'swildlife viewing, I'm waking up
at the ass crack of dawn.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
For that, yeah, me too, because I'm the one taking
pictures and I have to.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
So you're forced to, because that's our itinerary and
you didn't help plan anything Iwill say I feel like it's a lot
easier waking up that early onvacation.
Weirdly, oh for sure, because Imean, I don't know, it's
something special well, and youfor us?
Speaker 2 (33:58):
we, we always build in a good nap after so always
depending on who we're traveling.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
If it's just us, always a nap, right.
If we're on a solo trip, alwaysa nap.
Now can you do that with kids?
Speaker 2 (34:10):
I don't think so suckers so you want to talk
about because Yellowstone andmost of our trips we do alone,
solo child free.
But these last two cruiseswe've done have been with our
friends who do have kids and itis definitely a striking
difference between travelingwith and without children.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yeah, so the cruise that we just got back from was
our friend's cruise, so it wasus and two other couples.
Both of those couples have twokids, boys.
They are older.
I think the youngest one is, Iwant to say, 10.
Oldest one, 16.
15.
15, 15 years old.
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So they range from 10 to 15.
Four, four kids, four boys.
And it was funny.
I would say funny is the word Iwould use to describe it it's
funny because I don't think um.
I wouldn't consider our onegroup of friends traditional
parents no like, not what yousee not at all but, like if I
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was a, I'd probably want to belike them, right, because they
are more what would you say?
What word?
Carefree, a little looser, yeah, I mean, they're strict, but
they have more freedom, which ishow I would want to be, anyways
, traveling with these uhfamilies and the kids.
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What, uh, what did you notice?
Speaker 2 (35:41):
so I I've listed like experiences with children
versus, you know, travelingchild free.
So with children it's just likethey obviously have their own
wants and needs that they wantto do understandable and so on a
cruise.
It does help and, like we said,they they give their kids a
little bit more freedom so theydo get to go off and kind of do
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things that they want to do bythemselves.
But then also sometimes theparents would leave and be like,
okay, we're gonna go do thiswith the kids on the cruise and
you know we're all in the poollike drinking, and then they
have to leave and go watch theirkids do do the flow rider do
the flow rider, and so it's like, oh, oh, like they have to go
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take their kids.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
I have to leave the or they have to like chaperone
them to do that because they'renot old enough to do certain
things by themselves right.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
So it's like you know planning a trip, and then it's
not just about what you want,it's about what the kids want,
or what the kids canrealistically do Like you're not
hiking to a mountaintop with athree-year-old.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Well, I did see, when we were at Yellowstone, a
couple people with the littlekids on their backpacks.
Oh, what about that dog?
We did see.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Oh my God, See, I would do that with my dogs.
Oh, what about that dog we didsee?
Oh my god it was.
See, I would do that with mydogs.
There was a little frenchie whowas at grand prismatic and they
had him in a baby carrier, onthe dad's back, and he was he
was back, just smiling, he washaving the best time.
See, I would totally do thatwith my dogs, but I think
obviously there's a lot moreplanning that goes into it with
kids, because, okay, we needsnacks.
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What are they gonna eat what?
What are they going to drink?
They don't want to go to somebougie dining thing, I will say
the kids did really good when wewent to those fancy restaurants
but they are older they areolder, yeah, but makes it easier
it does, and they do eat moresophisticated.
But god, if these were kids whoonly wanted chicken nuggets, I
don't know how that would have.
That would have worked out.
(37:35):
Um, I, yeah, that's one of thethings I put, like trying to eat
dinner all together, I thinkwork things around them right?
um well, another thing is justlike the fighting oh my god with
a sibling sibling fighting,with it being four boys of
different ages, I was like, ohmy god, like kids, it was a lot
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kids putting each other in likea headlock, and then the other
one crying, and then the olderone was like I don't want to
deal with these kids and I'mlike, oh my god, this is a lot
for me to handle.
Like that's a lot of emotions,a lot of having converse,
pulling the kids to the side youneed to get along with your
brother blah, blah, blah.
And I'm like, oh my god, thatlife is just it was exhausting
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just watching like we walked upon them and the parents were
gone and I'm like yeah, I mean.
I'm not.
Yeah, I'm like I'm not greatwith kids.
So the parents had left and wehad just gotten back from eating
and I'm like, hey, kids.
And then I'm like the one is inthe corner crying and I'm like,
well, I don't even, what do Ido?
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I'm not gonna parent them, whatam I?
What am I supposed to do?
I don't know what happened Ijust gotta let them cry it out
so like they're not, thesiblings aren't talking, and I'm
just like okay, you guys, youguys have fun now so it's, and
then the parents came back anddealt with it yeah, and then
it's just taking time to dealwith it.
Oh my God.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
What a buzzkill.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Ruined our trip and they're listening.
Your kids ruined our trip.
Man, I'm just kidding.
What is that voice?
I don't know.
I would say the added cost tobring kids.
The added cost to definitelybring kids, because for us, when
we price out a vacation like,let's say, we want to go on like
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one of those new royal, royalcaribbean ships next year next
star of the seas we love royalcaribbean, by the way.
So for us we're only trying toget one room for two people and
we're like trying to talk theminto let's do this, and they're
like that's like ten thousanddollars.
For us we have to get a wholenother room for two kids and
we're like, oh, come on youcould put all four in one, oh,
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but then you got to stay withyour kids the one couple did
that I'm like no, absolutely notbless them.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Yes also, I don't know if you have this on your
list um nooners, like if you, ifyou're sharing a room with a
kid.
I don't know if you have thison your list nooners, like if
you're sharing a room with a kid.
I don't know if this is on yourlist.
No, it's not Okay, like what ifyou're, you know, feeling a
little frisky and want to get alittle alone time?
Speaker 2 (40:09):
That's impossible.
The kids have to be out of theroom.
I think they were almost caughtat one point because the kids
came back.
That's just something I don'twant to deal with, although I
will say for us we go on thesetrips and do we have sex every
day?
Absolutely not.
We're lucky for like once ortwice a trip, because we're out
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doing stuff all day and I'm notthere for a lovemaking session.
I know I'm there to experiencewhat we're there to experience,
but you know, if you're in themood, that does make it very
difficult you gotta time itright, but I think being a
parent like you have to do thatanyway, even at home.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
I think, I think I hear yeah, you gotta kind of.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
I'm sure I will say another thing.
It's just the hazards that comealong with taking a kid on
trips with you yeah.
Like, for example, the cruise.
You know, god forbid, what ifthe kid falls overboard or
something.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
That had just happened over on a.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Yeah, that Disney cruise.
The child fell I don't knowwhat really happened and then
the dad jumped in.
So that's something you have toworry about on a cruise getting
lost.
So not this past year or notthis last cruise, but a year ago
we went to Coco Cay and one ofour friends their kid, thought
they were somewhere else, so hehopped on a tram and went to the
(41:32):
other side of the island and weweren't with them because we
were at the adults only sectionso we had no idea any of this
was going on.
I was too busy at the swim upbar but I guess they had like an
hour long search to try andfind this kid and he was just
lost on the island, yeah, justriding the tram back and forth
they couldn't find him.
They finally found him.
I can't imagine how terrifyingthat is as a parent.
(41:55):
No, so there's just all thesehazards.
And then, thinking about yellow, you think your anxiety is bad.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
No, I would not make it.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
I would not make it.
Or like thinking aboutYellowstone, yellowstone,
they've got all of these thermalfeatures, geysers wild animals.
Yeah, wild animals.
And if you you have to stay onthe boardwalks in the paved
areas, god forbid.
What if your kid stepped offand felt like somebody
(42:39):
no-transcript them and they gooff?
Or those bison are nasty outthere.
So if, like, a kid gets tooclose, it's just so many hazards
that I would not want to beresponsible for.
No.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
I remember when I was a teenager, I think I went to
SeaWorld with my cousins.
Okay, so I was older, they werea little younger, but SeaWorld
has that obstacle course wherethe kids can climb through.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
I guess one of my cousins had gone through there
but never came out.
I mean he had eventually didhe's still alive, um but he went
in and, like his mom, my auntwas like where is he, yeah, and
I was like I don't know, I mean,I was probably 16 were you
(43:33):
probably 16 so you were theresponsible party?
Speaker 2 (43:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
Oh my god, here's another thing here's another
thing I lost her shit, oh wherewas he?
I think he was still in thing.
I think he went in but thencame back out like the entrance
way, because I think it wassupposed to go in one way and
then go through and come out theother way.
But but I don't think he didthat.
I think he went in and thenturned around and came back out
(43:59):
through the entrance.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Oh my God.
See, that's just stuff I don'twant to deal with.
Yeah, my anxiety would be at anall-time high.
Is my anxiety taking over me?
Yeah, I don't know why.
That reminded me of a fieldtrip when I was younger.
And my childhood best friendgot on the wrong bus and people
were freaking out.
(44:20):
But my mom was a chaperone andhad my childhood best friend
right next to her, but peoplewere freaking out.
It's just like things like that, like just accounting for all
the kids, like where are they atall times?
Speaker 1 (44:31):
I mean, I remember when I was a kid I was supposed
to get on a bus to go to, like,after school here no I walked
home.
This is a when I was a kid.
I was supposed to get on a busto go to like after school care.
No, I walked home.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
This is a kindergarten.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
I was in kindergarten .
I tried to get my friend.
I was like hey, let's just walkhome.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
See, kids have a mind of their own and you just don't
know.
Yeah, that's not, that'ssomething.
I love traveling, and I canonly put up with you.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
I mean, you got one child to watch.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
And all of your shenanigans, I will say I do
love traveling with our dogs, sothat's something that I'm
trying to do more of, and I meanthat's still.
Anxiety yeah that's stillsomething to worry about.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
We went to oh my God, are they having fun?
Speaker 2 (45:10):
I do think about that .
I'm like, like, are my dogshaving fun?
A few years ago we went toHelen Georgia right after
Christmas and this is so stupid.
But like, I want my dogs tohave experiences and I'm sure
that's the same way parents feelabout their actual children but
we went and it was snowing andI was like half in tears because
(45:30):
I was like, oh my god, my dogsare seeing snow for the first
time and I'm like they loved it.
They do not give a crap thatit's snowing, but I took a video
and I was you know, it's a goodmemory for me and we stayed on
a creek and they were playing inthe creek and we had a big
backyard and they were justrunning around like crazy in the
big backyard and that's what Ilove, the big backyard, and
(45:51):
that's what I love.
So I think we're definitelytrying to plan more with our
dogging kids in the future andjust seeing them have those
memories and us having memorieswith them.
So I get it, because to methat's those are my children
that I want to make memorieswith.
So I definitely get.
Obviously, people want totravel and have those memories
with their actual childrendifferences.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
We don't have to worry about ours fighting or
putting one in a headlock andthe other one crying, and then
we have to scold them and talkGet along with you.
Yeah, get.
Along.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
What would you say the perks are of traveling
child-free?
Do you have a list?
I actually have some thingsthat I.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
What was the question I zoned out?
Speaker 2 (46:24):
Oh my, we're filming.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Sorry, I was thinking about the dogs and how cute
they are.
They are so cute.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Do you have any pluses of traveling child free
Child?
Free.
Do you have any pluses oftraveling child free?
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Pluses of traveling child free.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
What are the perks to you?
I have some very specificthings.
Yes, saving money um peace.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
Yes, what do you got?
Speaker 2 (46:58):
I have that.
We get our own beds, and notevery couple does this?
but I like to get a quick liketwo queen beds in a room and we
sleep separately and you can Imean I guess you could do that
if you got two rooms with thekid but if you're sharing a big
room you're sleeping with yourhusband or you're sleeping with
a kid, but I love just havingour own beds.
(47:19):
On vacation, I would say ingeneral, it's just easier.
Like I have down flying likeflying is so much easier.
You're not having to put thekid in front of an ipad or
hearing them cry or I need to goto the bathroom every five
seconds.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
So I think worrying about where they are in the
airport.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Oh, my god, yeah, the airport is so scary, just
keeping them occupied for, likeif we were doing a long flight,
because it takes like six hoursto get to seattle, and even for
me I'm like, oh my.
God this is a long flight, likejust trying to keep a kid
occupied.
That long you don't have todeal with a tired kid, so like
(48:00):
cranky.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
Yeah, I just have to deal with you.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
I have to deal with you, so we can be out as long as
we want, do what we want.
You know, sometimes we do havereally long days.
Oh yeah or like that, that longmorning where we were out from
3 am to like 11 am.
You couldn't do that with a kid.
They'd be whining and wantingto go back to sleep, and so it's
nice to really just have it onour own terms.
(48:23):
I think we talked about thisbefore less costly and then not
having to worry about thehazards.
Yeah.
So those are some of my bigthings for traveling child-free.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
I will agree with all of those Just thinking about
our next trip and how great it'sgoing to be without a child.
Where are we going next?
Speaker 2 (48:43):
So I would love to plan a few more weekend trips
for the rest of the year.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
Well, we've got to follow.
Keep up with our 7-7-7.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
7-7-7-7.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
We've been doing good on the weekly outings.
Um, but seven days, seven weeks, seven months, right yes so we
need to do one.
What seven weeks from now?
Speaker 2 (49:05):
yeah, because it's like a day trip or a weekend
trip.
So I would love to do somethingwith the dogs at this point.
So I I really want to plan afew of those, but also, I don't
know, next year I really want totalk my parents into going back
to banff and going to glacieryeah so I think that's my goal
for next year, for our big tripis glacier national park and
(49:27):
banff national park and thenstar of the seas we have a lot
to talk about.
If you can convince your friendsand I know you're listening if
you could convince your husbandto go on Star of the Seas, I
might go with you.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
Oh, there it is.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
Calling you out right now there it is, if you can
convince him I might change my2027 cruise and go on Star of
the Seas with you.
That's all I got to say.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
All right, you heard it here first.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Ladies and gentlemen, Well, we hope that, whether
you're traveling with kids ortraveling without kids, that you
have a good trip.
Let me know are you the plannerin the relationship?
Is your spouse the planner?
Speaker 1 (50:03):
Do they just drive like me, or did they just drive
you crazy like me?
Speaker 2 (50:07):
How often do you fight?
Speaker 1 (50:18):
I want to know do you fight?
I want to know do?
Speaker 2 (50:19):
you have fights that are very similar to what we have
.
I can't be the only one who isstill really upset by my lack of
apology that I perceived.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
I'm sorry you felt that way.
Stop it.
Well, that's all for now, untilwe drink again.
Bye.
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