In this critical episode of the Driven 2 Thrive Broadcast, Brent sits down with Lisa Johnson, co-founder of Been There Got Out, certified DV advocate, and one of the leading voices helping parents survive high-conflict divorce, coercive control, and parental alienation.
Lisa’s own case became legal precedent and her testimony helped pass Jennifer’s Law. Today she’s giving men a roadmap through the chaos — practical, tactical, and emotionally grounded.
🎯 What You’ll Learn
- The #1 mistake dads make that damages their case — and how to avoid it
- Exactly how to talk to your child when they repeat your ex’s poisonous messages
- Why defending yourself directly doesn’t work (and what to do instead)
- The 5 things to start doing immediately when alienation starts
- The 5 behaviors to avoid that courts use against you
✨ Why Listen?
Because one day of doing the wrong thing can harm your case —
…but one day of doing the right thing can change everything.
If you’re a father navigating alienation, or you know one who is suffering in silence, this episode may be the most important hour you invest this year.
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