Elevator to Nowhere: Unraveling the Mysteries of LA's Deadliest Hotel

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We dive into the dark and twisted history of Los Angeles' Cecil Hotel, a place steeped in death, murder, and unsolved mysteries. From the infamous Elisa Lam case to its connections with serial killers Richard Ramirez and Jack Unterweger, this haunting landmark has earned its reputation as one of America's most sinister buildings.

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Speaker 1 (00:15):
oh shit, episode three.
And I just noticed while wewere listening to that I got a
rip in my gosh damn shorts, ohyou wear those all the time I do
and I got a little rip in them.
I don't know, that's probablyfrom Rough House with the Dog.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
I bet it is.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Rough House with the Pups.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Claws gotta be clipped.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Sorry, I know that's off subject, but I just looked
down as we were listening tothat song and realized I had a
hole in my shorts.
That all oh shit Got a hole inmy shorts.
Anyway, what is up, it is StPatty's Day.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
It is.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
March.
What 17th?
17th?
We are Drunk in Darkness.
I am Mitch and I'm Amanda, andwe are here for a new episode
that I know absolutely fuckingnothing about.
Not that I don't know anythingabout it, but she has refused to
tell me what it's about.
That's right.
So I went for for a week, ifnot longer, now, not even

(01:07):
knowing what in the hell to talkabout, because she won't tell
me what it's about.
Because it's a surprise that'sright so I don't know if I know
what we're doing.
I don't know what we're talkingabout.
I don't know what to tell youfolks.
I don't know what you'd beprepared for it's okay, you're
going to know she says I'm gonnaknow a little bit about it, so
let's find out you are.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
But before we find out, I just wanted to give a
shout out to our good friend,Samantha Arthurs.
She's got her own podcast thatwe came across this past week
called Appalachian Spooky Hour,so definitely check her out on
whatever podcast platform youlisten to.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
There it is.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
I mean she does some cool folklore stuff right about
the area.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, her most recent one was about Waverly Hills in
Louisville.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Nice, so they did an episode on that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
So definitely check it out Right.
I think she does it with someof her friends.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, some of her friends, MJ Kerr and Shel
Pomeroy, most of the time, but alot of times she's just by
herself too.
So give her a listen, give hera review, share her stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah, definitely Because that's really.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
that's what helps us out.
That's what we like.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
True story, If you get on whatever podcast platform
you're listening to us on, toSamantha, on to ever who you
listen to.
If it's Rogan, it's whatever.
Review them, give them somestars.
Yeah, never mind.
You know what.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Fuck Rogan, he's got enough people, he's good yeah,
he's number one, always he isgood yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
But all the little folks review them, put some
stars on their stuff.
If you don't like them, thentell them, I guess.
But if you do like them,definitely review them, rate
them, because that helps outtremendously.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Right, you know, because it's fun and we like it
and we love to know if you likeit.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
It's a true story.
We like, like, know what youlike and don't like, and we
didn't put this in our littlepre-game ritual that we always
talk about before we startrecording.
We do have a youtube now, socheck that out.
Uh, currently it's just therecordings, but we are about to
revamp our little studio area weare about to start recording,
and when I say recording, I meanfilming what we're doing so.
You're gonna see us here in the, in the flesh I gotta put a

(03:02):
face on I can't just look like ahomeless person sitting here
anymore.
I gotta wear pants from now on.
I can't just drink tequila andunderwear.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
We can do waist up it's fine.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
I mean I'll do waist down.
Pants are stupid.
I'll do waist down, I don'tcare ask anyone that knows me
pants are dumb they'reunnecessary.
They are, and I'll drinktequila underwear.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
I don't care who sees and hey, you know what, patreon
, if you on our Patreon, maybewe'll put some polls up.
Help us figure out how we wantto do our studio, because we got
some ideas.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Hey, let me tell you about Patreon right now.
If you get on right now, you'llsee my future, your future what
I want to say future ex-wife,because you hadn't seen the
video yet, but you'll see mycurrent wife in her PJs with the
little kangaroo pouch, hisforever wife.
Until she sees the video of herdancing to some John Party.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
I've done, seen the video.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Because I showed you.
So it is on Patreon, but we dohave a Patreon that we're going
to start putting a bunch ofstuff on.
We just got to get some peopleon there to say what's up and
hang out.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, and we actually we did get our first subscriber
.
We what's up and hang out?
Yeah, and we actually we didget our first subscriber.
So that, like request for anepisode already taken, and,
what's funny, our first twosubscribers, the first two
people that said, hey, I'm goingto do your Patreon, requested
the same thing.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
That's right, and that'll be next week's episode.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
So we're going to do that next week and I'm not going
to say what it is and you gottawait to find out, but you that
requested it, you know.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Hey, speaking of waiting to find out, I don't
know what we're doing this week,because I waited a week.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
First I want to talk about what we're drinking
tonight.
We've mixed it up a little bitOoh, it's nasty, Nasty so.
I got a little something goingon.
Our youngest had a virus thisweekend, you know, because when
he wants to snuggle with me iswhen he's sick, because he's 12
and he's too cool to hang outwith mom anymore.
So he coughed in my face acouple times and now I think I

(04:47):
might be catching it little mildfever, a little scratchy throat
.
So we're trying to kill it outby taking some tequila shots not
just tequila shots.
Not just tequila shots 11.99,that's right we're playing
legends of the hidden templewith oh montezumaezuma here.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Montezuma.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Montezuma tequila shots.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
It's rough, so it's woo.
I don't like tequila.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
We also didn't have a lime, so we have some lime
juice that we evidently left wehave not even used.
I'm just chasing it with me DrPepper.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
We have a sock grinder.
She's chasing it with Dr Pepper.
I'm shooting it straight.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
And I'm also chasing it with some angry orchard peach
mango, so you know.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
This may be the drunkest episode we've done.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
This might be my drunkest, because not only that,
I also had some bromophed thathad some pseudophed in it.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Oh, I did feed her some cough syrup prior.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah, because we're trying to knock this out,
because we got big planstomorrow.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
We do.
We have a concert to go totomorrow.
We do Everclear.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
That's at that, millennial Gen X right.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
I don't know, I just like Everclear.
I don't give a fuck, I likeEverclear.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
We are Gen Xs at heart but fall into the
millennial category,unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Isn't there Gen Z?
What does that mean?

Speaker 2 (05:52):
That's like Gage.
That's our youngers.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
That's younger than us.
We are not Gen Z.
I think, we're just old.
Though Feel better, Because itis St Patty's Day.
I have a shot glass to the topof the rim of tequila.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
And I got a baby shot .

Speaker 1 (06:11):
My wife has a baby shot, that's enough.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
It's been rough today .

Speaker 1 (06:15):
I'll give it to her.
She's dealt with some sickness.
Had a lot of sleep lately andthe first shot I gave her was to
the rim and in the last couplehave been little baby shots, but
your boy has taken about sixfull shots moderation is not
something he understands fuckmoderation.
You only live once.
This is what we're doing, so wedo this shot.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
What is it here for?
Here for a good time, not for along time boys.
This is to all of our drunkendarkness subscribers and fans
and listeners patty's day,because I can't drink beer and
we don't have any green beer.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
I do have a green boot.
He's got a green boot for it.
I can put some tequila in theboot.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
You could put some in your orchard in it.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Tequila in the boot would be bad.
Hey folks, this is shots foryou.
Here we go.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Woo.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Oh yeah, oh, it's bad .

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Wow, so bad that is rough, I rough.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
I don't know who invented that.
Who wants to drink that?

Speaker 2 (07:05):
don't do it, friends, don't do it tell me.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
So I need to know what this episode is about,
because I'm about to tell youwhat I fucking know about you
are and you're gonna know somethings.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
So I initially because we were like, let's mix
it up this time, let's do someweird, let's do some folklore
stuff, let's do you know, likethose, um, what would you call
the Mothman?
What is it?

Speaker 1 (07:25):
It's a folklore, it's urban legends.
Urban legend yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Let's do those things .

Speaker 1 (07:30):
That's what you think .
He fucking shows up at yourdoorstep with them big beady red
eyes.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Right.
But we all know like I lovesome true crime, but I didn't
just want true crime.
So initially I started this outout and we talked about this.
I was going to do the story ofeliza lamb oh, the caesar hotel.
I know why didn't we do thatexactly so, as I was researching
there's so much on eliza lamb.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
I can tell you about a lot about that you can that's
why I didn't tell you why did Iknow?

Speaker 2 (07:56):
because midway through my research I thought
you know what?
Let's not just make thisanother true crime person, eliza
lamb Lamb, because Netflix justdone that documentary.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
They did that a long time ago.
I still told you all about it.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Right.
So we kept the Cecil Hotel andI just done America's Hotel
Death.
The dark history of the CecilHotel.
You're doing the whole hotel sowe can talk about some things
that happened in the hotel thatmaybe you don't know about
because I thought with ElizaLamb you probably.
So we can talk about somethings that happen in the hotel
that maybe you don't know aboutbecause I thought with eliza
lamb you probably know what Iknow there and I don't know that
I could come up with anythingnew.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
So let's be honest with you.
I know a little bit of shit,yeah, but I know it on eliza
lamb.
I don't know much about thehotel I know it's very sketchy.
Yeah, I know it's beenrenovated several times they've
tried to create it and make itinto better things.
But, I can tell you that theEliza Lamb story is wild.
It is.
It is wild because the videofootage you'll see, the stories

(08:53):
you'll hear.
At first I thought this girlwas being either chased by
something or somebody.
And after watching the samedocumentary several times and
reading several articles, aboutwatching the video right.
I do think maybe she was a girlwho was off her meds right I

(09:14):
think what got everybody realfucked up was the fact that the
first report come out and saidthat the if you don't know the
story, uh, definitely check thedocumentary out.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
You should, it's called the Vanishing at Cecil
Hotel.
It's on Netflix.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
A brief rundown that I can give you is a girl was
videoed in the elevator doingsome really weird shit.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
We'll go over that too.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Acted very weird.
They ended up finding her nakedbody in a water tower on top of
the hotel.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
The first report to come out said that the lid on
top was locked, which wasactually would have been unable
to have been done fromunderneath.
What truly happened was it wasnot locked, and it did come out
that the cop who said it waslocked was not correct.
It was open.
It was open, the top was open.
So the first report to come outsaid the top was shut and

(10:03):
locked and everybody wonderedhow in the hell you could do
that.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
I don't think it was locked, it was just a heavy lid
that was shut.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
It shut.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Either way Supposedly .

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, either way it was unable to be shut from her
at that angle and that depth andthe water and at her size.
Right.
So it come to find out that itwas indeed left open.
So once that came out, it mademore sense that maybe she was
off her meds.
She had a history of sightproblems.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
But now let me get to what I do know this hotel's on
Skid Row.
It is.
There was a desire todepopulate Skid Row.
You have a ton of phenomenalconspiracy theories.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Are we talking about the TB test?

Speaker 2 (10:48):
No, that's yes.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
The TB test is crazy Because the TB so.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Not test, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
There is a conspiracy that possibly that she was
either infected with or with TBto spread it to the folks on
Skid Row.
If you don't know what Skid Rowis, it is the.
Is it miles or blocks ofhomeless folks?

Speaker 2 (11:11):
So it is like the I think it's like the highest
majority of homeless populationin LA.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
It's tent city, baby, it's just fucking blocks and
miles of homeless folks.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
So it's like homeless prostitution drugs.
It's just like overrun thisarea that they do not know what
to do with it and they can'tjust kick them out, so they just
let them fucking stay there.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah, and they're basically just, I don't know if
they're tearing, I don't knowwhat is happening.
I mean, basically, you don'twant to go there.
If they're full, nobody wantsto visit there it's a super
dangerous place very sketchy,very dangerous, and so the
theory is that she had beeninfected with, possibly, a tb
mutation of the virus.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Right, because there's a virus named it is like
her name spelled her namebackwards, it's lissa, limb or
whatever.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
I'm.
Yeah, it's whatever.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
It's her name backwards I don't know it
exactly, but I know that.
So what makes that such a greatconspiracy theory is that she's
a canadian student that youknow was traveling down from
like she agreed with her parentsthat she would travel.
Gonna pause you okay, realquick.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
The test is called the lamb lisa test
l-A-M-E-L-I-S-A.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Right.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Which is her name?
Fucking backwards.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Right.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
So now it is important to note that theory's
never been proven that she hadanything to do with it.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
No, it's just the conspiracy theory.
But if you have a wild ass storylike her Right, then you have a
test that's named after her,but backwards, and I don't know
if I'm right here, but I feellike I remember because I
stopped my research on her.
But so the university that shewas attending, because she was

(12:57):
Canadian, had a hugetuberculosis research facility.
So that's where this reallykind of gained.
So like the name matches up,the university matches up, so it
gets real weird and you've gotyour internet sleuths and
whatever.
So you know the footage isweird.
The amount of time it took tofind her is weird, and we even

(13:17):
discussed this when we watchedthat documentary.
When we watched it and theyshowed this footage, why were
there so many cops that showedup for her?
There were a lot.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
There was a ton.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
A lot, I mean I guess she's a girl in a water tower.
But you showed up by half thefucking department.
It took 19 days to find her.
So it wasn't like they foundher, you know how they found out
.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yep, some people who stayed in one of the rooms
turned the water on and the shitwas brown.
Said it tasted funny and theyreport they drank the shit they
reported it and finally somebodywent up and was like holy shit,
drink that tequila every dayfor the rest of my life.
Then have to drink a youngasian woman yeah, me too gross

(13:56):
I've drunk half this bottle freeof charge.
Right, you're gonna tell me Igotta drink the water that a
young asian woman's been layingin.
I don't care if you're asian,caucasian, african, american,
indian, I don't want to drinkanything you've been laying in
for 19 days.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
I don't care who you are my question is as a girl
goes missing, there's a weirdvideo.
Why did they not sweepeverything I get?
It's a 700 room hotel at onepoint in time at its height have
you watched the documentary?

Speaker 1 (14:21):
yeah?
The one girl the one girl thatthey interview is just like.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
That's Amy Boo.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
She's out there.
She was the manager.
She's out there.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
She is not the manager any longer.
Well, no wonder Of course itsold and whatever she has her
own jewelry line.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yes, she should.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Amazingly, it's kind of cute.
I looked it up Like she wasjust thrown into this because it
was some friends and she didn'tknow what she was doing.
That's fine.
I mean, it's not her fault.
I'm going to be honest with you.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
If somebody came to me right now and was like, if I
ran a hotel, I was like, hey,your water tastes funny.
I'd be like, well, don't drinkit.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
then Go buy some bottled water.
Well, she needed a job, so shetook this job, and she didn't
have any experience in it.
She was doing the best shecould.
But she said that it wasnothing to have multiple calls
and see the cops all the time.
It's Skid Row, right, she saidherself.
There were like 80 deathsduring the time.

(15:16):
Go ahead, give me a shot.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah, it's no shot boys and girls.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
She reported some wild things herself.
It was just a constant thing.
It was this influx.
There were people that livedthere short term.
Long term there were peoplethat were like homeless, that
they rented rooms out reallycheap too.
There was all sorts of crazystuff, but so that's what you
know about it.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
I know some more.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Okay, let's talk about what else you know About
the hotel, not just Eliza Lamb.
About the hotel, not just ElizaLamb, because there's so much
more.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
I'll be honest with you.
I just said that out of spite,because I don't really know a
whole lot.
Okay, I know it's a shit hotel.
I know it's been renovatedseveral times and bought and
tried to be converted intosomething nice.
It's a super historical hotel.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
But when you add that story of Eliza Lamb to it, you
kind of fuck it all up.
Oh, there's so many more peoplelike us are gonna go because we
want to stay we want to staythere, we're not going we are
going that's what she thinkswe're going to this mall we're
not.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
It's not a hotel anymore what is it now?
I'm gonna tell you we can't gothere I don't think so, why they
have slow income housing now.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
So it's like hud shit now not.
I mean it's different, it'skind of, but it's low-income
housing now.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
So it's like HUD shit now Not I mean it's different,
it's kind of, but it's likevouchers, so they've turned it
into apartments.
It's more like a hostel, butnot one that just anybody could
stay in.
It's, we'll get there, Ipromise.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
All right, folks Listen.
This is what's about to happen.
I'm going to turn the mic overto you because, evidently, I
don't know shit about what'shappening there.
Right, it's crazy.
But I'm going to tell you thisit's crazy that this girl did
what she did.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Definitely look it up .

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Because it's also crazy.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Watch the video it's four minutes of her in the
elevator and it makes zero senseWatch the elevator footage.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
The elevator footage will fuck you up.
Yes.
And I don't care what anybodysays, uh, the fact that there
was a tb test named her andpeople argue that like that's
what tests had been named foryears before, fuck off, prove
that shit to me.
Come show me paperwork thatshows me that tb tests were

(17:15):
named that for years before her.
No, I don't believe that for asecond.
If you don't think thegovernment's up to some weird,
shady fucking shit by now, wellit's la.
You still believe thegovernment is so fucking like.
We're on our p's and q's.
We're honest as shit.
You're listen if your head is inthe sand right if you're
listening to this and you thinkthe government is on your side

(17:37):
and they're they're.
Everything they say is fuckingperfect.
You're listening to their ownpodcast.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Oh lord, do people really think?

Speaker 1 (17:43):
that fuck.
It took the singer blink 182 tocome out and say hey, ufos are
real and now they're like ohwell, fuck, he got us ufos are
real, they are so look, you'regonna tell me they didn't try to
unleash some kind of weird assvirus on all these fucking folks
on skid row to get rid of themright that is a hundred percent
something they would do and thatdoesn't even touch the

(18:04):
corruption of the LAPD.
Are you about to talk aboutthat?

Speaker 2 (18:07):
No, but that's a whole other thing.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
You think there's a corruption.
You think cops are corrupt?
No, no way.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Not all of them Now wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
We've listened to enoughpodcasts.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
I'm a huge supporter of the cops.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yes, Like I said, not all cops, but there is some
corruption in places for thingsA thousand percent.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
I am a huge supporter of cops.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yes, we both are, we are.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Firefighters cops.
I am a huge supporter.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Is there a lot of fucking?

Speaker 2 (18:34):
bullshit in-.
I mean, you're a firstresponder.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Right, I get that.
But even before that like Rightthink the cops get a lot of
grief they're good, they're baddo I think there are bad in
every situation?
Yes, one thousand percent.
Do I think there are shitheadass cops out here doing shithead
ass things?

Speaker 2 (18:51):
one thousand percent I mean ten percent of the people
that work at walmart are shittyat least, so why aren't ten
percent of cops?

Speaker 1 (18:59):
I got kicked out of walmart because somebody was an
asshole to me you remember thisright, remember this right.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
I remember you ought to know this story.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
He called me a moron.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
He called you stupid.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
He called me stupid and said if I wasn't stupid I
would have fixed my car myself.
It had a fucking nail in thetire Right and I told him I
would kick his fucking ass.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
What was it?
You said that if you neededdirections to something on the
shelf, you'd ask for something.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
No, I said, if I wanted salt on my fucking fries,
I would ask him.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
And he told me if I wasn't fucking?
I said I'm not stupid, I knowthat nail is not that far back
in the sidewall of your tire.
He said well, if you weren'tstupid, you wouldn't have
brought it to us.
Therefore, I threw my gogglesthat he'd given me across the
back of Walmart's fucking tireand lube section and I
threatened to whoop his ass.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Hence a two-year ban from Walmart.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
That got me a two-year ban from.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Walmart it's up now Did not hurt our feelings
Actually truth be told, thatbitch ain't up for June.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
I've been creeping up in that motherfucker now for
months, though that's okay, youknow why they don't give a shit,
because I spend money there.
Yep, you know who don't workthere, no more.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
That guy, that motherfucker, I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Because I would have handicapped whooped his ass and
how would he have felt if he hada handicapped guy whoop his ass
?

Speaker 2 (20:09):
It would have been funny.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
How did we get on this?

Speaker 2 (20:13):
I don't know.
Anyway, cops are good yes.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
In LA no because you're constantly getting
fucking pushed.
Oh God.
I don't want to know whatthat's like because you can't
follow the rules.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
I don't want to be a cop in a small town.
I don't want to be Barney Fifein freaking like whatever that
town was.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Paramedic for 15 years and I can promise you
there are situations that youcan't always follow the rules,
and it's not because you're adickhead.
There are situations that youcan't always follow the rules,
and it's not because you're adickhead.
It's because this situationdoesn't allow you to.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
So if you're a cop, that's any job.
You do what you got to do toget the job done.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
But do I think the government's fucked up?

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Hell yes, do I think they want to fucking get rid of
Skid Row homeless people?
Yep.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Fuck yeah, it's a lot easier to than it is to solve a
real problem.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Do I think this episode is going to get
demonetized Hell?
Yeah, well, that's okay, butwhat we're going to do now.
We're bringing it.
Fuck it.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
What we're going to do now is we're going to talk
about the Cecil.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
So I'm going to give quick background.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
This is just your little tidbit history lesson.
Cecil Hotel was built byWilliam Banks Hanner in 1924.
Opened in 1927, it was supposedto be an elite destination
hotel.
There was a train line that ranright through, so it was
somewhere where people would getoff, you know.
So it was nice, it wasbeautiful, it had marble, it was

(21:36):
grand, like it was supposed tobe this place to be right.
Unfortunately, it's beensurrounded in nothing but murder
, suicide, supposed unexplainedparanormal events, which I found
none of.
So we'll just like, kind of,you know, push that to the side.
But there's been lots of murderand suicide.

(21:57):
So the Cecil Hotel has beennothing short of just full of
the macabre, unfortunately builtin 1927.
If any of you know anythingabout history.
Just two years after that, theGreat Depression hit hard, not
just the little people.
It hit the big people too.

(22:18):
Because, cecil, here theyopened up.
They're expecting all this.
Well, nobody has money to comenow.
So the Cecil didn't haveanybody Like it, just like
nobody had the money to come tothis.
Well, nobody has money to comenow.
So the Cecil didn't haveanybody Like it, just like
nobody had the money to come tothis.
We're talking a building that in1927 cost over a million
dollars to build.
So 700 rooms, huge, huge hotel.

(22:40):
Even now, looking at thepictures of what it looks like
now, and it's fairly like, kindof like, in the grand scheme of
things, a dilapidated buildingas opposed to what it was at its
best, beautiful building,beautiful inside.
So, like we already said, thearea surrounding the Cecil
became well known as Skid Row,home to thousands and I mean

(23:02):
like, like, not like a thousand,but thousands of homeless
people.
Quickly, huge reputation forthis that it's just a place of
violence and death and junkiesand runaways and criminals and
prostitution, like that's all.
The area is known for sirensall the time, cops all the time.
It is a mess, mess.

(23:23):
It is a dangerous place,especially for someone young
like Eliza Lamb.
So in the 1930s alone so we'retalking open in 27, in the 30s
alone, there were six reportedsuicides, poison shootings,
jumping out of windows and evensomebody slit their own throat

(23:46):
at this hotel.
This is within the first, like13 years of opening, the first
death that I came across, andthe reports were a little kind
of scattered here and there, butname was always the same Percy
Orman Cook in 1927.
One report said it was likegrand opening.
This guy killed himself at thegrand opening and it just kind

(24:08):
of set the tone for what thishotel was going to be like.
I don't know if it was thegrand opening day or not.
Go ahead, you look like you hadsomething, maybe.
So said that he was in disputewith his wife and son.
He couldn't fix it so he shothimself in the head.
He died shortly thereafter.

(24:29):
Obviously we're talking 1927.
Nobody's living from gunshotwounds in the head then.
So, like I said, some say itwas during that initial grand
opening.
But then it was essentiallykind of considered this curse
that was set upon this hotel.
It just kind of foreshadowedall the tragedies to come Within

(24:51):
a few years.
1931, there was a guy that diedby ingesting cyanide capsules.
There was a man it was, Ibelieve he was a veteran
ex-marine, I think slit histhroat in the hotel in 1944.
We're talking Dorothy JeanPurcell.
She was 19, staying at theCecil.
She was with some man said tobe in his 30s.

(25:14):
I don't know if they were anitem, if they were fleeing.
I don't know what they were.
But she had some bad stomachcramps, stomach pain.
She thought she was sick, wentto the bathroom.
The bathroom, and lo and behold, she was in labor, delivered a
baby boy, claimed she didn'tknow she was pregnant, chucked
the baby out the damn windowwait a minute.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
So she gave birth to a baby.
Yep, she didn't know she waspregnant so she says supposedly
had a baby, said fuck, fuckthese kids fuck them, kids and
threw it out the window yep thatis a confirmed story.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Confirmed story I've got I mean babies.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
What story, what?

Speaker 2 (25:52):
I got some pictures you can.
I don't want to see that baby,not, not the baby of her how
high was she up?

Speaker 1 (25:57):
I mean baby's, dead right baby's dead.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
So her story was that she thought she delivered a
stillborn baby now fuck didn'twant the man to know that she
had delivered a baby the man shewas with, so she threw it out
the window.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
What year was this?

Speaker 2 (26:10):
1944.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Now shit.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
She threw it onto the roof of the building next door.
So she's high up.
There's a building next doorwith a lower roof.
Check the baby.
The baby, of course, died.
She went to trial.
She was found innocent ofmurder.
By reason of insanity bullshitshe was put into a psych

(26:34):
facility.
We're talking I guarantee it1944, psychiatric facilities
like she's probably such abullshit she's probably haunting
some psychiatric facility.
Now it's, yeah, our friend samarthur's probably such a
bullshit.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
She's probably haunting some psychiatric
facility now it's yeah, ourfriend sam arthur's probably
probably found her at fuckingwaverly hills and shit.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
That's such a bullshit, fucking excuse threw
out the baby onto the buildinglike I.
Just I was like, oh my god, shewas admitted treatment whatever
found not guilty by reason ofinsanity, maybe she was, I don't
know.
She was 19 I didn't look Ididn't look further into it, but
here's a fun one and this waswhat got me.
I think that kind of made mepull a little bit towards this,

(27:11):
like the dark history.
It said that in 1947 one of ourvery favorites, the first
episode elizabeth short was aresident.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Oh shit the cecil hotel.
Shit, the black diet, the blackdiet, just bring it.
Just before she was a resident,oh shit Of the Cecil Hotel.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
No shit, the Black.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Dahlia, the Black Dahlia Bring it Just before she
died.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
It's alleged that she was spotted drinking.
I believe it is on the booksthat she stayed there within the
week before that she wasmurdered, that's dope.
I like it.
She was found just a coupleblocks over, so it was within
relative close distance to theCecil.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
Listen if you haven't checked that episode out.
Was that our first?

Speaker 2 (27:44):
episode.
It was our first episode, ourvery first episode Drunk in
Darkness episode one the BlackDahlia Season one.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Virgin episode.
Yes, first fucking episode wedone.
There's my wife, tayshia shot atequila.
We hammered that one out.
That was a proud episode.
That was a oh.
She didn't like Boys and girls,she didn't like that shot.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
I did not.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
It did not settle good with her.
She shucked and shimmied andshaked like Billy Ray Cyrus.
Cold chill throughout my wholebody Achy breaky heart, son, she
Wow Get with it.
Anyway, that was a.
We were proud of that episode.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yes, we.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
You did some good research.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
I did a lot of research.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
We were proud of the episode.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
It's such a good case I just like it is wild because
the true crime around me is likeI can figure this out.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
So that's let me tell you what happened.
Let me break this off a littlebit.
What happens?
We talk about a lot of stuffduring the day.
Because we spend a lot of timetogether, we spend probably what
Shit we spend about every.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
A lot.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
And we talk a lot about true crime and conspiracy
and paranormal.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
What makes us tick man?

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Everything.
What my wife does is, in theevening time, when everything
settles down, she puts on theDiscovery or True Crime channel
and she looks at me and shetells me everything that the
lady's done wrong on thesedocumentaries.
She will tell me what they didwrong to not get away with the
murder.
Now let me tell you what is notvery humbling or convincing is

(29:12):
to get ready to go to bed andyour wife look at you and be
like you know what she donewrong.
She didn't use the right amountof bleach to water to get rid
of the blood on the linoleum.
When she's chopped him up, sheshould put him in the freezer
three days prior before shefucking called the cops you
remember the day I told you howmany apple seeds you could crush
to create cyanide, to killsomebody right.
So I'm just saying that's.

(29:33):
What she does is that she tellsme all the things that these
ladies done wrong and why theydidn't get away with murder and
the way they could have gottenaway with murder.
So until your wife looks deepin your eyes and into your soul
and tells you how these ladiesget away with murder, you don't
know what I go through every day.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Don't be listening to that nonsense.
I keep a note in my pocket tolet everybody know if something
happens.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Mitchell, done it but when I say, if something
happens to her, I'm gonna painta fucking punisher skull on my
car and me and my daughter to goaround and avenge her fucking
soul, I mean that I would dothat you would be the one to
bury me in the hole with yourdog.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
My dog won't be around for that, but our dog has
cancer, we're just real sadright now our dog does have
lymphoma.
Let's here's to rory that'sright, that shot was for him the
next shot's for rory we that'sright he my spirit animal.
He's on the prednisone and thegabapentin, like I am.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
That's right, he's moving, though they said he
wouldn't be around tillChristmas, and he's here, it's
fucking St Paddy's Day and he'sin there rocking ass right now,
that's right.
He needs a, never mind hedoesn't need a, let me tell you
about the Seas Hotel again,though.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
I don't know much about it.
Yep, you've told me more aboutit than I ever knew.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
I didn't know that the Black Dahlia stayed there, I
didn't either.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
That's wild.
So this was days, weeks before,just a week or so prior.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
It says within days.
It says the week before-ish.
Yeah, Just a few days.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
So she was in guy Right Because she made up these
stories that her husband was inthe military.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Or he was an MIA, or he was a POW.
Yep.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
So she always had these ways to sneak into guys'
bedrooms man To make a living.
She was a little shady.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
She was shady.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Until she got with her own dude, which we all I
think you and I think was thesame guy I think we agree who
might have murdered her.
There's yeah, there's so much.
There's a lot of evidence ofsaying who murdered her.
But that, if you don't believeus, go back and listen to the
episode, episode one, the blackdahlia.
Uh, go ahead, let me.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Let me know what else is going on, okay so 1962,
george gianni I believe it isgian yeah, he was killed while
working by the Cecil Hotel, sonot working walking.
So this man, paul, he was like65.
He's just walking by when noneother than Pauline Otto, 27

(31:56):
years old, jumped from the ninthfloor window after an argument
with her estranged husband.
Basically she jumped thinkingshe was going to make a point to
him and she killed both her herherself and mr george instantly
.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
She wait a minute.
What?
How did she kill two people?
She jumped he.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
She jumped out the window, but he was walking by
and she landed on him.
He killed both of them not likebarbarian where they both lived
hey, if you haven't watchedthat movie, check that out
barbarian what's that on?

Speaker 1 (32:24):
What are we watching on Paramount Plus HBO Max?
Something.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
HBO Max Check that out.
It was wild.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
What's his name?
Bill Skarsgård, I call himSkarsgård.
Skarsgård.
He played Pennywise in New itYep.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
He is playing Keith playing eric draven in a new
crow and he makes a fuckingexcellent crow.
Can't wait for that but checkout where why are we?
And then, what was it justinlong?

Speaker 1 (32:48):
why are we shouting out randomly?
We're not getting paid for theshit.
Fuck that, but anyway what?
Yes, justin long is in it.
You know justin long is.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
He played in the comedy accepted with uh, jonah
hill, but he makes such a goodcrummy person, such a douchebag
in the barbarian, you gottacheck it.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Got to check it out.
Check the Barbarian out.
It is a fucking.
If you like horror movies, itis right up your alley.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
It's kind of this like you know it's leading to
something and you're gettingalmost frustrated with it, kind
of movie Like I'm like I hatethis movie.
I said it like 14 times.
I'm like I hate this, I hatethis, I hate him, I hate
everybody.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Right, but you liked it.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
But I did, I loved it .
I would watch it again.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
It was a wild movie.
I even had somebody kind ofruin the movie for me that I
work with.
But she didn't.
But she didn't actually shedidn't.
She just told me one part andthere was so much fucking chaos
in this movie.
Yeah, check it out, theBarbarian, you're going to want
to watch it.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Wildness.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Bill Snarsgaard.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Skarsgård.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
There you go, justin Long.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
The Kid.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
The Kid.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Sorry, that was from who's the Kid he done.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
he played the kid who did scars guard oh, scars
guard's good man he's so good,he's got that face like he
played a good pennywise, so onamazon prime.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
What was the name of it?
I don't even remember.
Yeah, he plays the kid.
They got two seasons and itcanceled and it was so freaking
sad because it was such a goodmovie.
It was um.
It was based off the stephenking novels with um jj abrams,
castle rock there it is such agood series oh, that's when he
was like in prison.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
He kept asking for that same lawyer.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Yeah, they canceled that yeah, it like tied to like
salem's lot and then and theshining and it had all these
characters.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
It was amazing it sucks now because you have to
like so even though it's twoseasons.
Definitely watch it becauseit's amazing, but it sucks,
because now you like, whenyou're streaming, like on
something, you have to be, solike it can't like.
I seen what is the show wewatched, that they had come out
on twitter and was like itdoesn't matter how much you
watch, you have to do this, this, yeah, to get us renewed yeah,
like they will cancel shows.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yeah, it sucks, man, because it's not all about views
.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Right, it's about, like, how many people talk about
you on twitter.
How, how many people talk aboutyou on social media?
How many do this?
How about just fucking?

Speaker 2 (34:55):
putting the show out.
So that's what we're doing.
We're talking about this on ourpodcast, and whatever.
Bill Skarsgård, that's right.
What's his real name?
That's it.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Snarsgård, skarsgård.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Skarsgård.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
You said it right.
The first time he played thekid, yeah, but he plays a
fucking hell of a characternamed keith in the barbarian and
you're gonna I don't think I'veseen him be bad in anything no,
he's a good actor, he's, andhe's getting ready to play eric
graven in the crow and if you'venever seen the crow, I've
introduced to my son, who's 12,yep, my stepdaughter, who is 18,
her boyfriend, who's 18, whosaid he had maybe seen it.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
He had seen the original.
She'd she had never seen it.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Yep, my stepdad had never seen it.
Yep, my stepson had never seenit.
We introduced him.
He loved it.
Yep, he thought it wasexcellent.
I, of course, think it's one ofmy favorite movies.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Oh my God, I was obsessed.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
The original Crow has Brandon Lee, who is Bruce Lee's
son, in it and it is shot andkilled during the scene.
Somebody loaded a gun without ablank and he actually got shot,
I believe, in the stomach, anddied.
But he died during the filmingof the movie, so they had to do

(36:06):
what they do to fix that.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
And who knows, maybe that's a future episode.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Maybe Conspiracy theories of Hollywood actors,
but if you've never seen theCrow, check it out.
Then catch old Bill Skarsgårdin the new Crow that's coming
out.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
But before that Listen, we're drunk, we're just
talking.
I love it.
Tell me about this hotel.
I'm going to do this shot.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
This is for Eliza Lamb.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
There we go.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Do you want one?
No, I got a drink and hertragic death at the Cecil Hotel.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
That's right, and I'll talk about her in a minute.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
All right, go ahead and hit me, I'm going to do a
shot of tequila.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
So not one of the most notable to us, but one of
the most notable for the hotelitself.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
PS, that's awful.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
It is awful.
Oh my God.
But it's notable because it'sone of the most violent deaths
that's been reported was that ofGoldie Osgood.
She was like a retired, notbroker, but she was like a
retired Maybe, maybe she was abroker, I'm not really sure.
But in 1964, she was a longterm resident of the hotel.

(37:12):
Basically she like lived there,she well liked, she was kind,
she was kind of like this staple, like everybody that come
through, anybody that stayed forany extended period of time
knew who goldie was.
She didn't have money, shedidn't really have anything, but
nonetheless she was killed atthe hotel, and not just killed,
but like it was horribly,horribly violent.

(37:35):
It because her room wasransacked.
They thought, or have said,that maybe it was a robbery.
She was beaten, she was raped,she was stabbed and she was
choked to death with a rag likeshoved down her throat.
Her death was never solved, likemost of the cases throughout

(37:57):
the area, not just the hotel butSkid Row.
It's just like these arehomeless people, they're drug
addicts.
Nobody freaking cares, nobodycares.
So her death was never solved,even though there were several
other murders in the area thatfit as in.
Maybe it was a profile, maybeit was a serial killer, whatever

(38:17):
.
So they're like, let's just getwrote this happens.
So that was 1964.
So then we move into the 80s.
In the 80s we're still talkingcheap as hell rooms 14, a14 a
night Damn For some of theserooms.
And this, at this point in time, became the residence of a

(38:42):
serial killer.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
Uh-oh.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
But if anybody knows serial killers, you know this
man, richard fucking Ramirez.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
The Night Stalker.
The Night Stalker.
He stayed at the hotel.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
He lived on the top floor in the hotel, and not only
did he live there, they saidthat he would come in in bloody
clothes, or he would come in inhis underwear with blood on his
skin, or he would come inbutt-ass naked, because he threw
his clothes in the dumpsterafter murdering a victim.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
So nobody said nothing about this.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
No, one said nothing because it's fucking skid row.
Weird things happen all thetime.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Nobody, I mean if I went to the mcdonald's down the
road in my boxers and a fuckingpair of flip-flops, somebody
would call the cops on me yes,but it's skid row.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
People come in crazy.
All the time.
He lived on the top floor ofthe hotel okay and it just
that's basically it.
They're like, well, he woulddump his clothes in the hotel
dumpster, he'd come through thelobby and nobody said anything.
And this is all.
According to journalist joshdean um that this all happened
and said he lived there becauseit was cheap and why not?
Like nobody questioned anything.

(39:48):
He was, of course, caught later.
You know his picture circulatedaround and there was no doubt
that it was him.
He was detained by somebystanders until cops got there
after the fact.
I say murder of 13, becausethat's what he was convicted of
13 murders.
He was probably many more.
Let's be honest, he's he's amess.

(40:10):
And if you're into the serialkiller thing and you don't know
him, look him up.
It's wild and he was scary,very scary.
But he was not the only serialkiller set to stay in this hotel
Later, in 1991, austrian serialkiller Jack Unterweger it might
be Unterweger, because whenwe're talking like German

(40:33):
European that W sometimes soundslike a V, so I'm not certain.
He stayed at the Cecil as well.
Some reports say that he chosethis as his home because of its
connection to Ramirez.
Other people say, you know, itwas just because it was
convenient, whatever.
So this man was arrested backin his European country of home

(40:56):
I don't honestly remember wherethat's at For some things that
he had done.
He spent some time in prison.
While in prison he wrote books.
He kind of became almost like acelebrity.
He became kind of well-liked.
People were like oh, he's somuch better, he learned his
lesson.
They vied Like people reallypetitioned for his release.

(41:18):
Upon his release he immediatelystarted killing again,
obviously because he was acrummy person.
He then, as a journalist,that's what pissed me off.
Right.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
People petitioning for releases when they don't
know the fucking story, becausethey want to protect people's
rights because they want toprotect people's rights.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
You don't know the fucking story.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
How about sitting down and shutting the fuck up?

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Yeah, how about really looking into it first,
right?

Speaker 1 (41:39):
If we can do a podcast.
I'm sorry, I don't mean tocatch it.
But if we can do a podcast inan hour and we can discover that
this motherfucker probably doneit or doesn't need to be out in
the public, then your fuckinggoofy ass doesn't need to be
sitting behind your couchsmoking your Marlboros, cutting
coupons out, deciding who needsto live and die.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
Sorry.
No, you're fine, let me get upon my horse, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
So he did.
He went, under the pretense ofjournalism, to LA.
He started killing women.
Most of his victims, or hischoice, what he liked to kill
were women.
Obviously he really liked tokill prostitutes.
Being next to Skid Row it madeit a perfect place Prostitutes,

(42:22):
drugs it's an easy target man.
You know like it's easy to killsomebody and nobody care.
But his preferred way tostrangle or kill these people
was by strangulation with theirown lingerie, own bras,
underwear, whatever.
He was eventually caught inFlorida because after things
started looking funny in LA, hewent to Florida.
He got caught.
He got extradited back.

(42:42):
He declared innocence always.
He never admitted, but whateverhe sucks.
So that's really a hugemajority.
There are obviously other casesof violence, death, things that
have went on stabbings, theysaid the cops were called all
the time to this, but in 2013,.

(43:06):
So we're talking.
There's a big gap here becausethere wasn't anything superbly
notable.
We got Eliza Lamb.
She was.
She was found nude in the hotelwater tanks 19 days after she
went missing 19 days and, likeyou said, because not just the
one guest that we saw on thedocumentary, but multiple guests
were complaining.

(43:26):
The water was discolored andfunny tasting and the water
pressure was weird, so theyfinally checked those water
tanks question for you.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Yeah, and I raised my hand.
Y'all didn't see this, but Iraised my hand.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
I'm right, I'm a polite gentleman he says that
because one day he talked and Iwas like I'm still talking she
talked for 45 minutes and I waslike, hey, and she was, I'm
still talking and I shut up soyeah, I raised my hand now
sometimes alcohol gets me.
Is that what?

Speaker 1 (43:50):
brought her.
So out of all these cases, asmuch as you know that I'm really
obsessed with her case Right,and I didn't know a lot about
his other case- I had no ideathat Black Dahlia stayed there.
I didn't either.
So what brought her case to theforefront to be so important?
Because why didn't we hear andI get.
The years have changed.
I get that Like Black Dahliawas in the whatever years and I

(44:13):
get that Like Black Dahlia wasin the whatever years and Lisa
Lam or Eliza or Eliza.
Eliza Lam was in the whateverera.
What is that?
Just a change in like.
Now there's internet sleuths.
Right Like what was thatdocumentary you watched?
Don't Fuck With Cats.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Yes, and that was mentioned too.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Like they found that motherfucker, like you don't
watch that documentary.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
It's yeah, so check out that documentary.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Don't fuck with cats, because that will teach you
don't fucking do anything.
You don't want somebody to findout, because the internet is
full of fucking people who havenothing better to do than sit on
their fucking ass and figurethings out, and figure things
out, and if you fucked up.
I promise you, they willfucking find you they will.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
So what is that what?

Speaker 1 (44:59):
brought this case because all these cases you
mentioned I've never reallyheard about.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Maybe briefly but nothing that's stuck in your
head besides this one rightwhich is pronounced.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Hit me with it.
What eliza lamb?
Eliza lamb.
Eliza Lamb, I'm real redneckman, that's okay, I eat squirrel
like six months ago.
I tell people all the time,like I'm so redneck, I'm so
eastern Kentucky, that I hadsquirrel gravy like six months
ago.
That's okay.
You can't expect me topronounce names correctly right
now.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
It's okay, eliza Lamb , eliza Lamb, yep, yep, and
there was a tv test that was outcalled.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Is it like like lamb eliza or lam eliza, like yeah,
it's just fucking weird, is whatit is.
Why do you make that?
If that's, if that's notsomething weird, how does it
just translate I?

Speaker 2 (45:46):
definitely think the age of the internet changes
things, because and I honestly Idon't maybe it's because they
didn't look at it or really pushit crazy as a homicide.
I don't know, I don't know.
But the four minute footage theYouTube video because it's on

(46:07):
YouTube friends and we can linkit, that's fine, but the video
of her it's four minutes in theelevator and it's crazy.
So in this video I'm just goingto give you a brief rundown
Like she comes in, she presseslike multiple buttons.
She kind of like peeks out thedoor and then she backs up and
she like presses her body to thewall like she's freaking hiding

(46:29):
.
So, like you know, when you getin an elevator and the buttons
are there, like usually on thatright, she presses herself up
against that like that rightside, like by the corner, like
she's hiding, like she is scaredof something, whether it be
that she's off her meds becauseshe was bipolar.
It was very clearly noted shewas bipolar, she'd had some
issues.
Her parents let her go becauseshe agreed I will check in with

(46:52):
you guys every single day, okay.
So, um, and that's how she wasreported missing.
She didn't check in.
Her parents were like, hey, shedidn't check in.
So they called that was the dayshe was supposed to be checking
out of that hotel.
Um, so in this video shepresses herself up against like
the wall and she looks scared.
Something's weird, something'sgoing on.
We're're talking four minutes,it's three minutes before the

(47:16):
elevator door ever closes.
Okay, what elevator door staysopen that long, ever?
So she presses up against thedoor and then she kind of walks
back out.
She walks out the door, shekind of looks around, she goes
back in, I believe, and she'skind of like standing there Door

(47:36):
still isn't closed.
She steps out.
She starts like waving herhands.
She like moves to the left sidewhere you can't really see her,
but you can see her hands.
She like turns to her right.
She's like waving her hands,almost like she's talking to
somebody, but there's nobodyelse within the frame, just her.
And then she steps back in,back out, and then she leaves.

(47:57):
And then there's like another,I don't know 15 seconds or so
before the elevator door evercloses, and then, like the last
45 seconds-ish is of theelevator obviously hitting other
floors, doors opening, closing,opening, closing, whatever.
And that's the last footage ofthis girl.

(48:20):
You know, on camera there's alot of stuff and if you've
watched the documentary, likethere are some people she had
had some roommates within thehotel that were like she was
acting erratically.
They complained about her.
They put her in a room byherself.
When they done toxicology onher, the levels that her
medication should have been atwere off.
She had a Tumblr account thatwas basically a full ass diary
of everything that was going on,so that's got tons of

(48:42):
information.
There are a few conspiraciesthat I hadn't heard about.
There's one conspiracy thattries to link her to the Black
Dahlia, because the Black Dahliawas said to have been traveling
from, like, san Diego to LA toanother place, and so was she.
She had just come from SanDiego to LA and then was moving

(49:02):
south.
She was traveling kind of downthat west coast.
Well, yeah, sorry guys, I'mgoing east west.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
I'm a little drunk so I'm watching this video it's
wild and it is.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
It's a two minute 26 second video, two minutes 26 so
that's not even the full videoRight, because the full one's 4
minutes Right.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
But at the 2 minute mark of this video 1 minute 51
seconds she gets out of theelevator and steps onto the
floor and it's like she justgave up Mm-hmm.
It's like she just acceptedwhatever faith was coming.
Fate, sorry, was coming her way.
I'm watching it now and she'sdoing these weird hand movements
.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
And like it's beyond.
Like it's not that what she'sdoing is physically impossible,
because we all can make thesehand movements, but it's like
she has.
It's erratic, it's very erraticand it's like at this point,
she has accepted her fate andjust given up to whatever is
either after her or what's uphere in her mind, because it's
kind of.
It's wild.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Because it's wild, because the way her hands are
moving.
And let me see, I know I hadmade some notes on it because it
reminded me of something.
So she puts her hands out infront of her but her palms are
down right and she's kind of gother fingers dangly and she
starts moving her hands.
I don't know if anybody hasever seen Rocky Horror, but when
they're doing the time warp andthey're like put your hands on

(50:17):
your hips and then they likeflap their hands back and forth.
That's what it reminds me of um, she's like got those hands
down.
She's like flapping them backand forth.
So I don't know like is itsinister?
Is she?
Is she off of her meds?
Did she ever have, you know,visual, visual hallucinations?
But what is weird, it does take19 days to find her.

(50:38):
We're talking, you know, like Idon't know.
In the documentary it lookslike 30 damn detectives show up.
Why did they not checkeverything?
So it's true.
The story was that she climbedinto the water tank, that she
lifted it herself.
There's some speculation thatshe wouldn't have been strong
enough to lift it herself.
They've explained that byadrenaline, because adrenaline

(51:00):
can make you do crazy things.
She was naked when they foundher, they explained that because
some people, when they havethose panic anxiety attacks,
they do get naked and that is avery proven fact.
Like sometimes, people striptheir clothes off, they get
naked.
And if she climbed into thetank and maybe felt like her
clothes were weighing her down,she may have tried to take them
off Because once in the tank,there was no way she could have

(51:22):
gotten herself out.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
So I will fight that with you.
No, with you.
I agree with you Because, as afirefighter, I was a volunteer
firefighter.
One thing that sounds crazy toyou is that once you panic over
something, yeah, you want tostrip everything off.
Yeah, there's a case offirefighters in denver who were
found naked because in a in afurniture store, because once it

(51:45):
just overwhelmed them.
I was in a training with two ofmy best friends in a training I
knew was a training.
I knew there was no real fire.
I knew there was no real senseof me getting hurt right I heard
my pack start to beep, meaningI'm out of air.
All I had to do was take mymask off and I could breathe the
air that we're breathing, but Ipanicked.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
I want to get my helmet off.
I want, you want everything offof you right, because you feel
constricted.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Yep, so that is a very real thing when people say
why was she naked?
That's a panic thing that islike it doesn't matter the
reason she might have felt like,oh, I'm in this water.
Um, it's just like the guy weheard about recently who fell
off a car yeah he was foundnothing when he they said what
was the first thing you said tothe uh coast guard when they

(52:31):
found you?
and he was like I'm really sorry, but I'm naked, yeah, because
you panic, yeah, and it feelsconst you and he was like I'm
really sorry but I'm naked, yeah, because you panic, yeah, and
it feels constricting and youfeel like if you're out of that
stuff, you have a better chanceto either survive or just exist.
And I can tell you firsthandthat in several trainings with
the fire department, I can tellyou two occasions that once I
ripped my helmet off and Ididn't need to, and the second

(53:00):
time I ripped my mask off of myface and I didn't need to, but I
panicked because I didn't likethe situation I was in.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
I'm going to ask somebody that has like just
general anxiety and panicdisorder.
There are days that I almostcan't stand the way my clothes
feel on me, like I'm like, oh myGod, like these things have to
come off.
I think that's where my hatredof pants comes from, because I
do feel constricted and the morepanicky I get, like it floods
your body with almost like thisheat and I know it's a false
heat because my temperaturedoesn't rise Like if you were to

(53:26):
check my temperature it'd be anormal temperature.
But on the inside in my brain,I'm like, oh my God, I'm hot,
everything's constricting me,like I just want to get it all
off.
So 1000%, that's true.
Her death was ruled anaccidental drowning by the
coroner.
Could that be shady?
Yes, maybe it's not, but therewere a lot of things that really

(53:49):
did point to it.
But there's a ton, a ton oflike just weirdness that really
leads to those speculations to.
You know, people being likethis is much more sinister.
Some people claim that what Isay her name was Amy that ran
the hotel at the time that allthese people knew more.
But it is weird because I feellike you're doing a sweep.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
Amy's weird, but I don't think she's like weird,
like sinister weird, she's justkind of dumb weird and I don't
mean this, like, if you'relistening I know you're not amy,
but if you know, if you are,you're just kind of goofy, weird
, like you're not like.
I've got a conspiracy to care,kill a bunch of people no,
you're like hey, did I park mycar in garage a or garage d
because I smoked a big doobie onmy way to work?

(54:35):
Weird.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
It's like that, like annoying.
They're like well, I lookedbehind a toilet.
I'm like you really thoughtthat someone was going to fit
behind a toilet, but you didn'tlook in the damn water tank that
somebody could climb into.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
I've told you several times where I'm going to die
Behind the water tower, behindthe water tank in the house,
just to piss people off.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
What water people off ?
What water tank?

Speaker 1 (54:52):
hot water heater oh, hot water heater, because I want
to be that story that ems tellsto their newbies like what's
the worst call you've ever had?

Speaker 2 (54:59):
do you even know where a water tank is?

Speaker 1 (55:02):
he ain't going behind the water tank in this house,
because I think it's in thatcloset right there.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
No, it's not, it's in the walls.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
You can't get to it, yep I know that we have a little
I promise you I'm not thisgrand.
I just know where our breakerbox is, but I never knew where
the water.
You know I don't.
I love you, jerry, but I don'tlike it here.
I know that's a different story.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
I know that's another day.
That's a story for another day.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
Another day.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Tell me more about this.
Let's wrangle her back in.
The last reported death 2015.
No names, no nothing, Just aman that committed suicide.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
Well, that's fucking Room 2.
What's?
That movie with John Cusack.
What's that movie?
I don't Remember that movie hedid, where he goes in a hotel
and he says that's a StephenKing.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
That's a good movie, though it is good.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Hey, we watched the Shining, the other night, we did
watch the Shining.
The other night, the othernight, we did watch the Shining
the other night and I thinkabout this that was the first
time I had sat down and watchedthe Shining from start to finish
without being interrupted inprobably my entire life, because
that's a long movie.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
And you even said Two hours and 40 minutes, I think
you even said to me, I can'tbelieve.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
Or you may have said I can't believe, but it was
watch, because I can't do that.
No, to watch a movie that longespecially movie I've seen
before like I couldn't watch thebarbarian all the way through
without just wanting to movearound and get up and walk
around and stuff.
So to watch a three-hour moviewhat was that?
You know what that y'all didn'tsee?
That wink I just got aspresident of the movie some

(56:28):
things happen yeah, some goodthings don't worry about that
yeah cover your ears.
Earm kids Earmuffs.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
Hopefully no little kids are listening to this.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
That'd be weird, I want everybody to listen to this
Little kids, old kids, grownkids.
I want everybody and share itwith your kindergarten class.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
You know what my favorite thing is about the
Cecil Hotel?

Speaker 1 (56:44):
What.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
And I think anybody, it's fucking creepy Anybody and
is up to date on pop culture.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
Hit me with it.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Knows that American Horror Story season hotel.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
Lady Gaga, I was going to ask you that.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
Was that about?

Speaker 1 (57:02):
it Was inspired by the Cecil motherfucking hotel.
Yeah, motherfuckers.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
I thought that was a creepy ass season.
My favorite.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
So we've been.
What's that movie you justwatched?

Speaker 2 (57:11):
A Star is Born.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
With Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga.
I lady gaga's a good actress.
I do.
I love her.
Uh, if you've never seen a staris born, it's way off.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Subject what we do it is, but it's so good it's, but
don't get prepared, don't getyour hopes up.
Nope, don't.
Don't just be prepared, beprepared?

Speaker 1 (57:27):
just fucking get some tissues.
Emotional roller coaster man,it's fucking rough a star.
This everybody knows becausethey performed like the vMAs and
the Oscars or some shit.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Listen, Bradley Cooper could have been a rock
star if he didn't want to be anactor.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
Well, he's a good actor.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
He's amazing, but you know what else he was good in.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
A Silver Linings playbook Very good.
He was fucking excellent inthat movie.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Very good.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
And then he turned around and're bradley cooper
fans in this, we are obviously Imean, but listen as stars born
is definitely worth watching andlady gaga like but I mean you
can disagree with me, but she isjust.
I mean, she's a gal she's aboutto play harley quinn with the
new joker with, uh, what's hisname?
Joaquin phoenix.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Joaquin Phoenix.
He's a wild motherfucker.
She is just like such astand-up person.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
He is a wild motherfucker.
He was doing a rap career a fewyears ago, river Phoenix's
brother, that doesn't give youright to be fucking wild.
You weren't even fucking of agewhen River Phoenix OD'd it's
like.
That's like me being mad at mydad was a it.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
It reminds me of like .

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Garth.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Brooks, when he became that thing, that other
person you talking, chris Gaines.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
Yes, when he got the fucking beard and goatee.
Yeah, chris Gaines sellingrecords at Walmart.
Under the fucking false it wasGarth Brooks.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
under the false tense of Chris Gaines that's what
Joaquin Phoenix reminds me ofwhen he done his thing.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
He got on fucking.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
But we're all over the place, man.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
That's because we're drunk, were drunk.
Oh, what's his name?

Speaker 2 (58:58):
uh, the night host not jay leno, but the other one,
jimmy fallon, no, the old onethat was there.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
David letterman, yes, joaquin fiennes, one david
letterman, and I remember thatas fucking as the rat yes, he
looks like a fucking jewish,fucking irish man or a fucking
amish man not irish side notelike it doesn't make any sense
or it doesn't pertain, but all Ican think about with David
Letterman is Kermit the Frog,because that's what he sounds
like If you close your eyes.

(59:22):
I'd have to listen.
I wasn't ever.
David Letterman always came offas kind of a cock.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
Jay Leno seemed more.
I think that's been fuckingburnt twice.
My wife's doing shots oftequila while we're not fucking
talking.
She's licking salt off herhands like a fucking frog and
just doing shots.
You guys are missing thisAnyway.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Listen, I'm telling you you can't wait until you can
see this on video.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Lady Gaga is the new Harley Quinn in the new Joker
Alongside.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Joaquin Phoenix Right .

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Because I don't understand all the fucking
universes and shit, becausethere's like I don't try.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
That's why I let our 12-year-old explain it to us.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
But there's another fucking movie out with the Joker
who Harley Quinn's somebodydifferent, because it's in a
different fucking universe andit's like for Marvel or fucking
DC.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
I don't understand it .

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
I get that I don't understand it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
I get that.
Those two things.
I don't understand it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
I don't understand.
I just know that Harley Quinnis being played by fucking Gaga
in the fucking Joaquin Phoenix,fucking Joker, the Joker movie.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
There are different lines of comics.
I know that much.
I collect comics too.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
You know this, I know , but like there are different
levels, of like darkness.
The shit's just no.
No, what it is that's probablya lie.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
That's just what I think of.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
So you know that I collect horror shit in comics
and the shit just gets toocomplicated because I just want
to collect the shit I like.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
I don't want to read.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
I want to read.
Right, you also collect thosebooks that are called Blind.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Date with a Book.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
So these are called-.
Let me tell you about these.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
It's like a grab bag.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
It is a book in brown paper and on the front it will
tell you if it's a mystery,comedy, thriller, young adult,
whatever.
It gives you a description,right, and it'll tell you a
little bit about it, like what?
Tell me what?
Tell me what one of them says,like give me a brief rundown
what like the description, Ihave no idea.
Like this new one says that it'sa mystery and it's I think it's
like some sort of sci-fimystery must love dogs set in
1800 new orleans, and that's allyou get and you don't know what
the fuck it's about, unless youfucking open it.
Do you know what I do whileshe's in the fucking other room?

(01:01:19):
He opens it.
I open it because I can't standnot to know what it's about.
He's not even going to read them.
But don't put it on the.
You're just all willy nilly.
You put it on the shelf forlike four months and don't even
care what what it says.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
I got two other books to read first.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
It's stressful, I can't help it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
So currently I'm reading a book called Scythe,
because our 12 year old read it.
And when I say read it.
He listened to it on Audibleand that's fine, but I want to
have something to talk to himabout.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
But me reading that book doesn't affect.
I didn't tell you what it wasabout.
You didn't, thank goodness, butI read it because it stresses
me out is the best.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
Buy a bottle of wine, blind date with a book.
You got some alone time, somedowntime.
You've got this and it's so fun.
Like you just go and there'sthis wall of books and brown
paper bags and you're like youknow what.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
That sounds kind of cool I have no idea what it's
gonna be, but you bought it infucking february I bought it and
you're gonna read it, you'regonna read it till august 18th
and we gotta wait that long tofind out what it's about.
I can't.
It stresses me out.
I've got to find out what it'sabout now.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Did you already read?

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
You know I've already opened.
You know I did.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
Did you look up spoilers too, you?

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
know I did, I love it .
I'm not going to read.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
You know what I know about it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
My stress is gone Because I didn't take a scalpel,
cut the top up, pulled the bookout, read the front, read the
back, put it back in, taped itback, put it back on the shelf.
You never knew I love it.
Then I looked it up online.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
But you know what's even better?
What?
The Cecil Hotel.
Oh sorry, Cecil Hotel.
I always want to call it Cecil.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
Why, I don't know why do you call it the Cecil?

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
It sounds fancier.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
No, it don't.
It sounds ridiculous.
The Cecil, I don't know what.
If you'd have named your kidCecil instead of Cecil, who
would you have made fun of?
Who would you have made fun offirst, cecil?

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Why would you name your kid either?
That I don't, I don't know anysassle.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
Sounds like a damn additive you'd add to your gas
tank in your fucking carProbably.
I don't know why I need a tankfor a sassle, I'm real weird.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
I'm real weird about the way that I look at things
and then I'm like, oh, I shouldpronounce it this way Blah, blah
, blah, that's dumb.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
I'm going to be honest with you.
I love this eliza lamb elizalamb and I knew about the tb
conspiracy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
That's all I knew about too.
So I initially was like I'mgonna do eliza lamb.
I've got two separate notesentries here.
And I was like I'm gonna doeliza lamb.
And then I got to likeresearching and I was like, dang
, like there's so much aboutthis hotel, how do I not know?
And I was like I'm shiftinggears, how do I not know.
I even told you it was likewhat tuesday and I was like I

(01:03:54):
think I'm gonna shift gears youdid tell me that we got like two
days I'm gonna shift, I don'tknow but you didn't tell me what
I did not tell you at all.
I was like I think I'm gonnashift gears because there's some
other things about this and Ilike I think it's gonna be good
the season hotel is somethingthat I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
If I mean, I think you did, you did plentiful
research, but there's so muchthat people could look up on
their own too, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Like don't stop at just us no, keep looking her up,
yeah and if you find somethingcool, let us know, because I
love that shit they did.
They changed the name.
They were making it like theStay on Main and it was going to
be like this fancy hotel.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
We're doing a shot for Amy at the Cecil Hotel.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Right, and she's not even there anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
Hey, amy, this is for you, yo, this is for you, baby,
I hope you're flipping BurgerKing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
No, I hope your jewelry line makes it Good for
you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
Does she have?

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
a jewelry line.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Really she does I promise, listen, watch the
documentary on Netflix and tellme if you think she needs a
jewelry line.
She is.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
It's kind of cute documentary.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
I promise you, I was so shocked she's higher than
fucking eagle pussy.
I was so shocked, higher thaneagle pussy.
I said that.
I said down there you didhigher than eight.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
She's high as shit I promise you, if I worked on skid
row, I would be too, would you?
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
if people just dying?

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
all day you get yourself to go there here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
Here you go, amy.
This is for you and your juryline.
Here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
So that is nasty, it is nasty why are we drinking
that for?

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
because it was cheap and we have to kill whatever I
got we do because we're sayingcan I all right, so go ahead
they did change it to the stayon main for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
It gave it a second entrance.
So their idea was like oh,we'll do some at this low income
.
Blah, blah blah, we'll do thisnice fancy thing.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
Stay on main to stay on main.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
It was supposed to be hip upcoming, blah blah you
still got four thousand tens ofhomeless people well, this had a
on the other side of the blockentrance oh right, let's meet on
the east side that didn't workout great.
It then moved, was sold and it'syou're right, it went through,
like all of these renovations.

(01:05:56):
So the idea was to likerenovate and it was like it was
bought.
They were like, oh, we're goingto renovate this, we're going
to do all these great things.
Covid happened, okay, just likeeverything else.
Like this, like maybe it'sreally the Cecil's fault for all
these things, maybe it's notanything else.
It's like oh, we built theCecil, the Great Depression.

(01:06:17):
Oh, let's renovate and make itamazing.
Covid, let's just blame that.
That's a lie, really.
So after COVID happened, theydecided that they would make it
into housing because there'ssuch a homeless crisis in LA.
So they did all of these roomadjustments and a lot of them

(01:06:40):
don't have bathrooms, a lot ofthem don't have kitchens.
They don't have this, they'rejust rooms.
But there are some that havebathrooms, some that have
kitchens, some that are communal, so it kind of has a hostile
environment.
There is that communal kitchenkind of thing, and what they did
was they tried to go within thegovernment establishment of

(01:07:00):
being able to accept thesevouchers for these displaced
people, these homeless people,people that were hard on luck,
so that they could kind of helpthem pays for your housing,
you've got a room to stay.
You don't have to stay in yourtent, yada, yada, yada.
But even as that come through,I want to say, like 2020 ish,

(01:07:24):
like a third of the hotel wasstill empty because there's all
of this red tape to cut throughto get that.
So the city was working ortrying to help work around that
so that they could help placethese people into this.
But what's crazy to me, like Ithink about, we don't like where
we live.
We would love to have more room, we would love to have

(01:07:44):
something that we feel is nicer.
There's always that next stepthat you want to achieve.
So you take, you think aboutthese people that are so down on
their luck and they, even then,they would like look, and
there's so much bad history withthe Cecil that some of them
were like I'd rather stay in mycar, I'd rather stay in my tent,
this dwelling, no, I'm gonnapass.
And they would not even likeagree to go here.

(01:08:09):
Um, so so at this point, itseems that it's this kind of
prerogative of whoever owns itnow that they want to kind of
help combat that homelessnessand such, and there has been a
lot of talk of like trying toredevelop Skid Row and make it
better and do all of thesethings.

(01:08:29):
But there is red tape, you know.
There's all these things thatyou have to kind of get through
to get there, and it's never aquick process, it's never an
easy process and they've hitlots and lots of barriers.
So it is sitting now as thiskind of long-term facility, and
I think the way that thesevouchers work is you're supposed

(01:08:52):
to have like one year to livethere, work on getting things
better, to get into a bettersituation, and that's kind of
where they're sitting.
Um, so yeah, I mean like it'slike this dark past.
So many people say, oh, I'venever seen anything, it's not
spooky, it's not scary.
And then other people havethose stories and you know, they

(01:09:12):
hear things and you know, theyhear things and you know whatnot
.
But it does have that dark,shady past.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
I mean, you can say what you want to say.
You can tell me that it's awhat's it for.
It is a for the sea coincidencethat all this bad shit happens.
It's not Like too much bad shithappens's not like too much bad
shit happens I feel like at oneplace like that's, this is just

(01:09:40):
drawing those people in.
This is my personal belief.
I will not put it on anybody,but I believe that too much
coincidental shit happens at thesame fucking place.
Yeah, and I think the pronounceit for me again elisaisa Lame.
There you go.
And the fact that she acted sofucking bizarre and you're going

(01:10:01):
to tell me there was a TB testfucking named her name backwards
after her.
It's just a coincidence.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
I do not ever wish anything bad on anybody, but it
is a much, much more interestingand intriguing thing to think
that it was the TB-related thing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
I'm like holy cow, that's crazy why not infect her
with TB and send her to Skid Rowto fucking infect everybody
else and her act crazy becauseshe has it.
I don't know how TB makes youfucking act.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
I was like nobody's in that camera.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
Maybe I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Maybe like they know better.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
Well, maybe she's just fucked up.
Man, I don't know how TBaffects you.
I don't, I won't ever pretend.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
I do.
I really have no idea.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
But I think it's a fucked up story.
I think the hotel's a fucked upplace and I think it's fucked
up if that the government justfucking just agged it on and
didn't do anything ill.
And this hotel was straightlaced, fucking pretty as perfect
, and there was nothing going onthat was fucking sinister or
shady here's my thing I get that, it's cheap, okay, but her

(01:11:06):
parents seemed concerned checkin with us every day.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
you know you can go check us in, check in every day.
We know you want to travel theworld, blah, blah, blah.
Fine, but even in my early 20sright, she was in her early 20s.
Even then I feel like I wouldhave never, ever said this hotel

(01:11:34):
in Skid Row is the place I'mgoing to stay.
There have to be otherinexpensive, maybe not cheap,
because I get that California isa different place 2013.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
You're telling me you couldn't find a fucking Motel
8?
.
Right A fucking Wooly to lighton for you.
You had to stay downtown inthis motherfucker no that you
couldn't find a fucking Motel 8?
Right, a fucking Wooly to lighton for you.
Like you had to stay downtownin this motherfucker no, you
didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
My dad is the biggest like whatever you want to do
kind of person, but if I toldhim I'm going to go stay in a
hotel on Skid Row, he'd be likethe fuck you are.
Your dad would fuck me up hewould show up and fuck me up in
a heartbeat.
Well, even at like 21, 22, 23,before we were even together.

(01:12:21):
He would have been like I ain'tworried about forward.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
Yeah, I'm worried about right now.
If I was to call your dad andbe like, hey, a man is going to
la, she had a room at skid row.
He'd be like you, let herfucking get a room at skid row.
Be like, well, yeah, she wantedit and he would show up here
and fucking want to fight meyeah, he is like the most like
nonchalant, like live and letlive person.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
He'd be like I'm gonna tie you up in this room
and keep you here.
You will not it's not.
Maybe it's the difference thatmaybe no maybe in 2013, her
parents in canada didn't knowwhat that was but that's okay,
she knew, I don't know that wasa.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
Let me tell you something.
Look, you can say whatever youwant to say.
I'm going to say it right nowfor everybody to hear there's
songs about Skid Row right, thisis my opinion, my opinion only
that's a fucked up place.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
You're a fucked up individual for going there.
And if you think there wasnothing sinister behind it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
You were fucked the hotel is a sinister place.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Because don't fucking tell me that they done made a
goddamn AMC fucking movie calledfucking the hotel.
What's it called?
What's that show with Lady Gaga?
American Horror Story, RightAbout it and it didn't have zero
fucking to do with it.
Are you just going to shoutwithout me?
She's just going to shoutwithout me, uh-huh.
But you're going to tell me, melike she didn't watch that

(01:13:34):
season no, I watched it one timeit was about a serial killer
okay, that's fine, richard no,it was about a detective that
was trying tosolve a serial killer case and
the first was about a fuckingguy in a leather mask fucking
his mom or some shit.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
No, but kind of okay but the season did bring richard
ramirez and it was kind of likethis congregation of all these
serial killers and crazy thingsthat happen on Halloween.
But the entire episode wasabout serial killers and
vampires and stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Well, that's fine, or season, you can't tell me they
didn't make the whole seasonabout nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
No, there's a reason.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
Just that there's a reason people don't know about
the mushroom mines.
Right, because there's afucking reason.
But Lady Gaga didn't show up,you know why?
Because that shit's fuckingcreepy.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
The fucking Cecil not the Cecil, Not the.
Cecil, I don't know where youget the Cecil at.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
The Cecil Hotel is a fucking creep fest.
Yeah, it's in downtown fuckingLA.
It's right on fucking skid row.
You've got all these homeless.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
Now there may be an explanation to all these
homeless people.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
The great depression is really what started the
homeless population fucking 22that the homeless people are
killing, fucking people yeah,fine, I'll believe that they're
like a huge tuberculosisoutbreak there, which is why
they gave her the fucking tbtest to spread it to the fucking
homeless people, probably, butnot to the government, because
the fucking homeless people?
Probably, but not to thegovernment, because the
government is straight-laced.

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
They're good people.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
Let me tell you something.
I've drunk enough of this.
What's this stuff called again?

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
Montezuma tequila, silver tequila.
Friends, it's not the yellowstuff I've just drank enough
tequila.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
I don't give a fuck.
I'm telling you right nowthere's something shady with the
Cecil Hotel.
I don't give a fuck what youname it.
You can name it Super 8.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:18):
You can name it 21C.
You can name it the CecilRedone.
You can name it Cecil Hotel.
You can name it the MitchKaiser fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
Invitational.
If it had some purple penguins,I'm going.
You can name it whatever youwant to name it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
We don't have to stay , we're not going.
Oh, I don't want to go, we'renot going.
I'm just saying if it's 21C Idon't put my foot down a lot.
We're not going to 21, cecil.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
We're not doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
I would love for that to be the name of 21, cecil.
We're not going to thatmotherfucker.
You know why.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
Just so you people know what we're penguins and
they are these gigantic plasticpenguins that are different
colors for different cities.
One of our first stays awayfrom home.
We booked a reservation at ahotel or not a hotel, but at a
place to have dinner and wedidn't know.
But there was a penguin thereand it was sitting at the table

(01:16:14):
behind us with a couple and Iwas like that's weird and I'm
going to be real honest Like wehad had some like edibles.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
We were hiring one of those we were.
We were sitting two foot apartand thought we were like a year
apart from each other.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
Right.
And then later, as we're eating, the penguin is maybe 20 feet
from us and it's directedtowards us and I was like dude,
that penguin moved and I thought, like holy cow, like
something's wrong with me she'snot wrong so, um, our waiter,
who mitchell called by the wrongname all night long, was very
nice.

(01:16:48):
He calmed, okay, he calmed ourdessert, um, because we said we
were from the other side of thestate and he was just excited we
were visiting.
He was super nice.
But then, after we kind of cameto our wits, we looked it up
and it's this whole installment.
It's like seven or eight hotelsthat have these restaurants,
that have these penguins.
So it's kind of my goal for us,now that I had told him and he

(01:17:11):
was 1000 and on, I was like Iwant to see all the penguins.
So we have been going.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
Argo.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
Our goal now.
But I think I was probably theone that was like let's do this,
and he was like I'm inadventures and shit, that's our
thing.

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
Cincinnati Just recently Louisville.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
Lexington, Cincinnati .
Those are the three.
We have been to Lexington.
Nashville in May, lexingtonnashville and may, nashville and
may in lexington.
We asked our waitress and shewas like, oh, you just asked and
she brought a penguin to us andliterally blue, because uk blue
.
I mean like, come on, bleedblue.
I'm not a huge sports fan butlike my family is, so I will

(01:17:49):
always bleed blue for them,whatever.
Um, but it got us all theconversations with every single
person that come in becausethere's blue penguin sub-eyes
and it's super cool.
Definitely look that up too.
21 C hotels, they've all gotrestaurants, they've all got
penguins, different colors fordifferent cities, and it's so
freaking cool.
And the people I worked withpreviously at the time when I

(01:18:11):
tried to come back and tell them, they were like, well, you were
stoned, so you're wrong.
They bring you cotton candy atthe end of your meal and they
thought I was crazy because Iwas like they brought like a
bowl of cotton candy to us thefirst time we were stoned and we
thought that it was a fuckingtrick.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
Yeah, it is not.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
They just bring you cotton candy right the second
time when we went, I sentpictures to the people I knew
and I was like this is for realguys I'm gonna post some
pictures of us.
We were at lexton, kentucky it'scalled the lockbox, which is
attached to 21c and it is thecoolest thing, like it's this
little restaurant, and Idefinitely encourage you to go
to the bathrooms because if youand say your partner goes to the
bathroom one in the girls, onein the guys there's a button you

(01:18:48):
can press and it makes themirrors clear so you can see
each other on the other side,because it's like so, dudes,
leave your dongs out when youhit the button old bank.
Is that what it is?
I don't know like it's got likea vault it's so cool.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
I just left my dong out and tried to show it off
anyway, I digress I don't, Itried to do such.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
Uh, nobody was on the other side but me so what I my
point to this was that if thethe cecil become the 21 cecil
and they had some extra coloredpenguin, I would have to go see
it so get online, look up 21 Idon't want to stay there look up
21 c hotel online.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
Just google 21 c.
There are eight or tendifferent areas right lexington
louisville, cincinnati.
Uh, there's some out westthere's nashville, there may be
even one overseas I haven't.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
We looked it up.
There was not overseas.

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
They're all in the united states, so we are
actually going to nashville tomy wife's favorite podcast
obituary which isn't ours.
She doesn't favor ours as muchshe does.
Obituary listen.
It got me to where I wanted topodcast, like so we're gonna go
see name them, and what's thenames?
Spencer, henry spencer andmadison, and madison in may at

(01:20:05):
zanes and zany's in nashville uh, and there's a ton once in
nashville, we're gonna catch soI'm 1000, like if you were into
what we listen to.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
Obituary Podcast is the two of them.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
Catch it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
He also has a second called Cult Leader, like
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Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
Like a liter of soda.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
Yeah, they're amazing .
And initially I was like beingfancy and had my lashes done
once and the lady was like, canI listen to this?
And I was like sure, and youknow, we talk a little bit about
our kids.
But my oldest, like I, was realyoung and we kind of grew up
together, so when she playedthis podcast it was kind of like
listening to my oldest talk,listening to our oldest talk,

(01:20:46):
and I was like holy cow, I lovethis guy and ever since then
I've been a huge fan.
So it would be cool.
Hopefully we'll get to meetthem.
We're gonna send them somedumbass criminals it is a very
good podcast it is they're sophenomenal?

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
amanda my wife into podcasting.
I've podcasted before, but iswhat got her into the?

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
the idea of doing it myself right and so we very much
.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
Uh, what's the word?

Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
we maybe not look up, but we admire what they're
doing, yeah we're going to seetheir live podcast in may in in
nashville and if you don't havetickets or you're in a city
close, like look them up,because they got tons of
locations, they're on tour rightnow and look them up and like
get your, get you some ticketsand go see them because they're
so funny at one point.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
We are on that same level yeah, we are pushing every
day to be there.
So we are trying very hard, butyou yourself do the research on
the Cecil Hotel because it iscrazy the things that happen
there.

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
Like I don't ever think I want to go to Skid Row,
but it's kind of one of thoseplaces that I'm like.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
Oh, I'm taking her.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
I'm like they do bus tours or like different city
tours, and I'm like I'd totallydo one of those because that's
safe, right, Like I'd love tosee it.
I don't want to stay there.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
Nothing safe about that by any means.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
But it's kind of like the times I've went to DC and
done tours Like let's go do atour, let's do a walking tour,
like we did in Cincinnati Maybenot a walking tour, but like a
tour Whatever, no walking.

Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
So let's break it down.
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Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
I promise everything you find is going to have this
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Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
Yes, look up the elevator video.
It's not normal shit.
I get that maybe she was offher meds, but fuck man,
something else was going on it'swild uh, anyway, the black daga
stayed there, our first episodewhich blows my mind yeah uh,
we're gonna be back with younext week with something new.

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Uh listener so, uh, amanda always tells me all this
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We're live on Patreon.
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important to do that Becausethat's important to people To
help other people out.
I always will support friendswho support us, just like you do
Any of our friends who supportus we're going to support.

(01:25:31):
I don't know anybody thatsupports this fucking shit ass.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
tequila Montezuma don't support that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:35):
Montezuma tequila.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
But I'm going to be real honest.
I want to support the peoplethat are worth supporting.
Let me tell you who's worthsupporting?

Speaker 1 (01:25:42):
Samantha Arthurs, corey Shepard, autumn Cottle,
matt Cottle, mary Cottle.
Who else?
And by that he's talking aboutall the people we just mentioned
?
Yeah, that's right, atomic.
So Art Yep, corey Shepard,music Fleabow Corp, appalachian
Spooky Hour, and us and us.
So check it out, checkeverybody out.

(01:26:04):
Fuck the big guys, support thelittle people.
And we'll see you next timeright, wait, let's do another
shot while we're talking to them.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
I'm out.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
I got another shot while we're talking to them.
I'm out, I got, I got a whole,I got a fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
I'm gonna have some.
What about tequila?
I'm gonna have some angryorchard while you have your last
shot of tequila.
She said my last shot, no, forthe podcast maybe, and then
we're gonna sign off.
I'm gonna do some more researchlisten folks.

Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
We do appreciate you listening.
Check us out on facebookinstagram wherever you listen to
your podcast.
All you have to search isDrunken Darkness.
I don't care what fuckingsocial media you're on.
If you search Drunken Darkness,you'll find us.
You'll find us.
We're going to pop up, that'sright.
We need YouTube subscribers, weneed Patreon subscribers, we

(01:26:51):
need it all Because we'regrowing it right.

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
We're coming out and we're getting where we're going.
We do thank you all forlistening, though.
We do Because it has been fun,and if it wasn't fun, we
wouldn't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
And I can't wait until next time, because we're
going to do something a littledifferent.

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
Next time we're going live Not live, but we're going
to like.

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
We're going local.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
Local.
We're going to take picturesand videos and we're going to
post them.

Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
But those are going to be Patreon guys.

Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
That's right, bitch.
Pay your $3.
It's $3.
Don't give me no bullshit.
You pay $3 for a fucking hotdog at Dairy Queen.

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
For real.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
We just paid $41 for three of us to eat, so you can
pay three bucks to get somefucking weird ass pictures of my
wife dancing to fucking JohnParty or me dancing John Party
in a weird skimpy outfit.
You don't know what you'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
Not that I promise you don't know that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
Here we go.
This is to you guys, my shot atthe kid and her angry orchard.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
That's right, and we'll see you next week.
Until then, with some localthings, and we can't wait.

Speaker 1 (01:27:57):
Until then Stay weird .

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
Stay what I don't know, stay weird.

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
Stay weird.
We'll see you next week.
Thanks for listening.
Bye, see you guys.