Sunglasses at Night: The Government's Creepiest Silencers

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There's something deeply unsettling about the real Men in Black that Hollywood doesn't show you. Forget Will Smith's charismatic agent—the actual phenomenon involves pale, eyebrow-less figures who appear when you've witnessed something in the sky you weren't supposed to see. And they don't use flashy devices to erase your memory; they threaten your family. So sit back, crack open a cold one, and lets get weird! 

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Speaker 1 (00:23):
oh shit, episode two Right after episode 1, because
today is the 8th.
Episode 1 came out today andwe're back in here recording
episode 2.
That's true Today Consistency.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Is key.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
The recipe to success .
Anyway, what is up?
We are drunk in darkness.
I am mitch and I'm amanda andwe're back in your ear holes
with episode two, which Itotally forgot what was about
because I don't do the researchfor this I just do the Tonight
your boy is drinking Skinny GirlMoscato.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Still on that sugar-free.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Not because I'm a bitch, but because I'm trying to
be sugar-free.
But if I drink the whole bottle, I realized it is 500 calories.
But I am about three-quartersaway with the whole bottle
because I didn't even get aglass, I just drank the bottle.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
You just drank out of the bottle.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
It saves dishes.
It saves dishes, it saves water.
What it saves?
The environment?

Speaker 2 (01:28):
You're helping the environment.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Right, are you going to recycle?

Speaker 2 (01:32):
that bottle.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
No, I'm going to throw it in the trash and give
it to the trash man, but I'mreducing my carbon footprint, or
some shit.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
I can tell myself that.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
You tell yourself that.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
And plus the sugar content's probably come back in
this other cider I got over herebeside of me, that's true.
Anyway, what is up, mybeautiful bride?
It's been a week since we werehere last.
We have since got some merch.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
We have, we got stickers, we did get some
stickers in.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
We talked about some shirts.
We did.
We got a pre-sale going forshirts.
That's going amazing.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
We've got.
That's all the merch we got.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
I was about to go on a rant, but my rant ended.
You were.
You were like and we've got allthe things we don't have shit.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
We got shirts and we got stickers, but you better get
them quick because they'regoing fast.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
And who doesn't love stickers and?

Speaker 1 (02:18):
shirts, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
I'm getting a purple one and a black one.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
I'm going to get a purple and black one.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
That's just weak bottom Bitch.
Yeah, we'll do what we want todo.
I'm going to get one for everyday of the week.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
We don't have none to sell, because that's 14.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Maybe I'm just going to wear the same two.
I'm just going to rotate them.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
You're going to wash them first.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Who knows?

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Ooh, that's weird what's been up this last week.
We've been pumped about thepodcast.
We have been We've been pushingit super hard.
So if you're getting sick of it, too bad.
We're going to push it somemore.
I'm going to push this somemore.
I'm going to push this in yourface all the time.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Dirty.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Sorry.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
She went there.
I didn't.
I know you heard the new themesong.
We done ramped and raved aboutit, but we dig it, I like it, I
love it Every time it comes on.
I do a little ditty over hereby myself.
I do a little dance.
It's the same dance move.
I don't have anything else.
That's all I got.
It's a right and a left stepand it's just repeated back and
forth back and forth.
It's like the slide.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
All you need is a belt buckle to hold on to.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
I'll get you one next time.
Oh yeah, A little sidestep.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Bam, get you a Drunken Darkness belt buckle Bam
A little DD.
Boom DDP.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
No, that's not no.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Drunken Darkness podcast DDP.
All right, maybe I mean wecan't coin it, it's already
coined.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
DDP yoga.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yeah, not.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
DDP pug.
I mean, maybe I don't know.
Yeah, what are we doing tonight?

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Hit them with it.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
We're going to talk about something weird.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
All right, that's a given.
Something creepy.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
That's a given.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Something that some people think is not real.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Okay, tell me about it, because I kind of forgot
what we were doing.
I thought UFOs and you said no.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
I mean, it's UFO related.
We're going to talk about whocomes to see you when you see a
UFO.
Oh shit.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Here comes the man in black, will Smith, and smash
you in the mouth like it didChris Rock.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
I mean, I don't think that's what's happening.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
If you've seen a UFO, Will Smith shows up, smacks you
like you were talking about.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Jada.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Smith in the face.
Nope, just smacks you in themouth until you forget.
I mean Is that what he does Ihope so.
Maybe that was what Chris Rockdid.
He thought he'd seen a UFO,smacked that bitch in the mouth.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
I don't think so.
I don't think that's whathappened.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
So.
So let me tell you what I know,because I know a little bit of
stuff about the Men in Black.
I don't know a lot about it.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Okay, you tell me.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
I think they're real.
Okay, I don't think they showup at your house with a little
blinking light to make youforget.
I think they show up at yourhouse and say Yo, listen, if you
say a word about what you'veseen, we're going to murder your
whole fucking family and wewill take you fucking out
because it's the government andthey don't fuck with like little
blue lights that make youforget.
I think they just say, look, ifyou say anything else about it,

(05:08):
you're gonna come home and findyour wife missing maybe, maybe
they're like talabasca and theyjust touch your head and make
you forget they erase who thefuck is talabasca tell the
mayfair witches.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
So we've been watching mayfair witches, guys.
It's freaking awesome, she'sbeen watching my fair witches he
said he was watching it with me, but he snooze fest whatever it
is not it's, it's okay.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
You told me what happened, though you have told
everybody to watch it don't beon here pretending like you told
me what happened, so it's notas entertaining no, you lie, you
lie.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
You ask what happened right?

Speaker 1 (05:43):
but you told me.
I told you a little bit I toldyou I couldn't tell you
everything because the book islike you want me to run for
everybody on here.
I'll tell everybody I'll spillall your shit, I won't.
Y'all should watch.
It's okay.
I didn't know who the talabascowas, or whatever talamasca the
tabascos.
Watch out for the tabascosanyways, they'll get you.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
You know what they'll make you forget.
We're gonna bring back, let'smaybe that's what they do.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
That's what we're gonna do.
Men in black show up and theyjust make you.
They just pour hot sauce downyour face until you forget.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
I'm gonna bring back the.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Make mitch say words he can't say I'd say all kinds
of words yeah, go ahead properly, can you?
Enough, enough to get by enoughto get by right in eastern k.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
That's right, I'm high class in eastern Kentucky.
Yeah, send me to Hazard.
I'm first class.
Sorry if anybody's listening toHazard.
I just like to give you guys ahard time.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
All right, so we're doing the Men in Black tonight.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
We are doing the Men in Black tonight what I do know
is just that and that is anhonest truth.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
I do think they're real.
I don't think they come at youwith some kind of weird device.
I do think they just threatenyour entire life and livelihood
and family right, and I thinkthey're here for a reason the
government just admitted what ayear or two ago that ufos are
real, so why in the they?
Started.
Yeah, would the men in blacknot be real?
That's.
There's been a ton of casesabout them.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
They stem from somewhere yep, nobody just made
this shit up.
Who just decided?

Speaker 1 (07:03):
well, you know what?
Let's make up a store back tominimum.
This guy's shopping all black.
No, it came from somewhere itdid, that's his dude showed up
at somebody's house and was likeyo, you didn't see nothing, did
you?
And he was like I see, no, youdidn't see anything.
And he threatened them untilthey said all right, maybe I
didn't see anything, I don'tknow you're not too off.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
See, you're not too far off.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
That's the government's a bunch of shady
motherfuckers all right, goahead, hit me with it.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
So the men in black we all know the movies, the
mysterious black figures withthe little blue lights, and
they're like oh, you saw aliens.
Blah, blah, blah.
Let's make you forget, becausewe can't have that out.
Mass hysteria um you know.
But is it something like that?
Is it some mysterious figuresthat are trying to keep mass

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hysteria down?
Or is it something much moresinister?
You know, it's not your averagecomic book, your men in black
blockbuster movie that we've allseen.
So from everything that hasbeen told, everything that's
been heard in all of thedifferent incarnations or
sightings of the men in black,one main thing sticks that

(08:11):
they're there to muzzle, tosilence any witnesses of
anything strange or paranormalphenomenon.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
I'm just joking enough to interrupt you.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
How awesome would it be, though, if what they did do
they did do was will smith didshow up and smack the fuck out
of you if you seen some shit no,that sounds awful, because he
smacked the shit out of chrisrock.
Imagine if that was whathappened when you seen a ufo.
I would probably you was likeoh yo homie, I seen you a bam
and will smith just smacked theshit out of you I mean that'd be
a pretty cool job.
I want to be a will smith youwant to be, you can't you get

(08:45):
him.
I'd have to shave my head andbe in like gi jane and shit.
Well, she and jess, she wasn'teven in, gi jane me not you
right, but I'd have to be jada,if you're will smith right no
that's how that works.
No, didn't she get into some?
that's what caused that wholeriff now you're talking
randomness no, that's whathappened it is what she sucked
some dude off and then that dudeinterviewed her on TV and was

(09:06):
like, hey, yo, how'd it feelwhen you sucked me off?
And she was like, oh, it mademy husband cry.
And then Will Smith cried onnational TV.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
But that's besides the point.
We're not talking about that.
And then Chris.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Rock got smart-ass about it and got smacked in the
face which I think Will Smithdeserved.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
You were kind of a bitch about it, okay, but that's
not what we're talking about.
I just had to get that go ahead.
I can tell sorry, that's wow.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
I'm three quarters away through some skinny girl,
wow wow, go ahead, hit me withthe rest of that.
Anyways, I got you.
That's what this is about.
Right?
I get drunk and get obnoxious alittle bit.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Lordy, lordy day I might need some help.
I'm gonna have to wrangle somehelp in here for this nonsense.
And now he's Ric Flair.
Folks Like watch out.
So the men in black with all ofthis lead back to June 27, 1947

(09:58):
, with a man named Harold Dahl.
Harold Dahl was out doing someconservation stuff on a lake
with his dog and his son.
They were collecting some logsfor some sort of project.
He claims that he saw six donutshaped objects hovering in the
sky.
One fell what was approximately1500 feet, and when I say fell

(10:21):
like broke apart and fellshowering debris on him, killed
his dog and injured his sonmotherfuckers, I know what did
the dog dog fuck that dog?

Speaker 1 (10:31):
I don't fuck them.
Men in black, my ass.
Yeah, this wasn't the men inblack.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah, I got their ass and give them aliens mitch foot
right, I eat that foot.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
No, no anyways.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Supposedly he was able to take some pictures of
the scene.
Um, so he had these pictures heshowed his boss, fred chrisman.
Chrisman didn't really believehim.
He was like I don't know, Idon't really think that's what
that is.
So he went back, supposedly, tothis scene and saw for himself

(11:16):
whatever this strange aircraftwas, or pieces of it or whatever
.
So that then leads us into whatis the very first reporting of
the men in black.
It's said that they showed upat Dahl's home the following
morning.
They went to a diner.
They're like let's go have somefood and have a chat, sir,
about what you saw.
So there are a couple differentthings that I found.

(11:41):
There was one thing that saidsomething about like they kind
of made the pictures kind ofblurry or hazy to him.
But basically what is said isthat the men then told Dahl in
super good detail what he hadexperienced without him telling

(12:01):
them what had happened.
It was like they already hadprior knowledge to what had
happened and then they told himnever to speak of it again.
You're not to talk of thisagain or bad things will happen.
But the thing about this is,years later the incident was
deemed a hoax through aninvestigation by the US

(12:23):
government where both Dahl andhis boss Crimson admitted that
it wasn't true, that it was fake.
What?
Because they were threatenedwith their fucking life and shit
.
Hence where I'm not finished.
He then nope, you're totallyfine there, 100%, you're right,
you know?
Because then he'd come back andhe was like you know what I

(12:44):
said?
It was a hoax, because I madethat confession under duress,
like they were, like you have toclaim it's a hoax.
So he said no, it really wasreal.
But they told me I had to sayit wasn't real.
So you know, there's your firstsighting, 1947.
So, although he was the firstreported sighting of the MIB men

(13:05):
in black, it was really ourbender who founded the
International Flying SaucerBureau that really introduced
the men in black concept to awider audience of people,

(13:26):
research into, you know, theseflying saucers.
So he had research that wasgoing to go into the space
review and he was visited by menin black.
His research was said to provethat the US government, to some
degree or another, had coveredup the proof of UFOs.
So he claims that three men andhe's got a nice, wonderfully
detailed description said theywere dressed in black.

(13:48):
Um, he said that they had thiswhite skin.
They didn't have eyebrows.
Uh, let me see I've got.
I love it.
Basically he said, you know if,if you've seen powder as a
movie and you put a a black,nicely tailored suit, maybe a
top hat, maybe some sunglasses.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
This is what you've got now that that does get me a
little bit you know why theylook funny, for why can't they
just be normal dudes?

Speaker 2 (14:12):
because there's a lot of talk on whether or not these
are real men or these areactually aliens that are coming
to visit you maybe this is not agovernment agency.
Maybe these are aliens that arelike hey, you don't talk about
us.
And that's where the accountskind of differ, because some
people are like these are men,these are men, these are men.

(14:32):
Other accounts are like they hadweird eyes.
Some people were even like theyhave glowing eyes.
So there's a lot of difference.
But one thing that alwaysstands is that they were very
pale.
They almost all lookedidentical, they were bald and
they wore nice black suits shit,yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
So where's an a, where's an alien?
Get a suit tailored at youthink maybe it's a projection of
a suit that'd be all right.
You have to go to men'swarehouse and get them bitches
on like discount maybe they getit from their own tardis oh,
they got a talk, but wow, thoughthat's wild to think about,
though, right, it's not really.
I've never really took thatinto consideration.
I've heard the talk that theydidn't have eyebrows and shit,

(15:11):
yeah, but to think there werealiens who actually were coming
and being like yo you didn't seeus Right.
That's different.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
I believe it was even Bender who had said that they
had like these weird glowy eyesShit.
So he said three guys camebecause it's normally like a
pair, some people have said one,some people have said, oh, I've
had two, some people have said,oh, I've had three.
And we talked a little bitabout this back when we talked
about the Mothman.
The lady for the paper at PointPleasant said they said she was

(15:44):
visited quite frequently bythese men in black and she never
listened when they were likehush, hush, hush.
She never hushed, right, it wasa woman, right.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
I'm about done with this bottle of Skinny Girl.
I got one question yeah, what'sthe chances they come visit us?

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Probably zero.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
I want that shit to happen.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
I want them to visit you, not me that's fine.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
You know what they're gonna get in the middle of the
night if they wake up if theycome into my underwear with my
hair, all crazy, or no clothesat all, you imagine what kind of
fucked up shit they're gonnathink well, hello right, I'm
gonna be like hey what's up, andthey're gonna be like whoa
you're gonna be like door.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
I've been waiting for you.
Come on in.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
The water's nice.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
You're going to fucking out this motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
I just want to take a few pictures.
Come in, I just want to watch ahorror movie and take a few
pictures with you.
Take that black suit off andlay it over the couch so it
don't get wrinkled.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
I've heard about your powder white body.
I heard you don't have noeyebrows.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
You want to shave mine too or what body I heard.
You have no eyebrows.
You want to shave mine too.
It's just got real weird.
That's all right, I'd fuck somemen in black up.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
I thought that was going a different direction.
I'll just fuck some men inblack like wow, put them suits
over the back of the couch.
All right, come on in here.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Let me talk to you for just a second one at a time,
please one at a time got realweird, real fast, that's all
right If you show up with noeyebrows at my house trying to
tell me I didn't see some shit.
It's about to get real weird.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Be quiet.
They don't know what it meansto silence.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Mitch Kaiser, you never show up in eastern
Kentucky to a fat naked man thatanswers your door at three in
the morning.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
It's going to get real wild, you know who I've got
some buddies that probably haveexperienced that though
probably they'll tell you whatit's all about.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
It's no fun.
One day we'll do a a stories ofmitch episode.
Scars for mitch, old dad.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Scars from old dad oh , lord, anyways, raining it in,
bringing it back.
So, as he prepared to unveilthis research, he was visited by
these men.
His research, like I said, oh,and he's finished.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
this skinny girl, that's okay because he ain't
into skinny girl.
Anyway, it's 500 calories.
I like me a thick girl.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
That's right.
Anyways.
So his research, like I said,was said to prove that UFOs
existed.
So he then claims that threemen dressed in black visited his
home and warned him against theresearch.
He was so scared for his lifethat he shut everything down,

(18:18):
even his flying saucer bureauLike he shut it all down bureau,
like he shut it all down.
They said that he was soaffected by this encounter that
he was said to have shownthroughout the rest of his life
that he was in a constant likestate of terror.
He was always anxious and heclaimed to have received
mysterious phone calls with noone on the other end all the way

(18:42):
until his death in 2002 shit.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
He lived in 2002.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
He lived until 2002 and was still scared he was
still scared.
So ufologist nick redfern wroteabout doll in his book the real
men in black, but it was graybarker's book.
They knew too much about flyingsaucers that really took the
men and men beings, whatever, toanother level.

(19:08):
So, barker, if you remember,Just come men beings.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yes, is that what they called them?
Because they may be aliens,exactly Because there's no
guarantee these are real men orif they're extraterrestrial
beings, that's a wild name.
Men beings, men beings.
When you got a speechimpediment, that's's a fucking,
that's a treacherous word to saytreacherous men beings, men
beings, men beings men beings.

(19:35):
It sounds like you're saying menbeans like the gayest ufologist
in the world did you see themmen beings outside, it sounds
like something you go pick outof the garden.
Give me some of the men beans,men beans pluck little dudes out
of the garden lord.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Maybe that's where they come from.
But anyways, gray barker, doyou remember this name?
No no, he wrote the silverbridge, about point pleasant and
the bridge collapsing I do nowyou do now.
Yeah, same guy okay um.
So he wrote they knew too muchabout flying saucers.

(20:14):
Um, he described bender'svisitors so he obviously
interviewed bender.
He described the men as men inblack suits with threatening
expressions on their face.
Three men walk in on you andmake certain demands, three men
who know that you know what thesaucers really are, and that's a

(20:35):
direct quote.
He went on to write severalmore books on UFOs, paranormal
things, like the Silver Bridge.
So it helped to spread all thestories.
Of course, the Silver Bridgehelped to spread the story of
the mothman and if you don'tknow who the mothman is, highly,
highly encourage you to go andlook into that.
Our goal this year is to go tothe mothman festival and

(20:58):
hopefully be able to have like abooth at the mothman Festival,
but at least to go andexperience the festival and do
some you know scavenging around.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
If you don't know what the Mothman is, you
probably don't even listen tothis podcast, because you should
know what the Mothman is.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
You should.
We did that episode.
But you know what?
Maybe you're new, you're justdipping your toes in In the
weirdness.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
You're just dipping your toes in the weirdness, just
Just dipping your toes inawareness, just dipping your
toes in awareness.
Well, if you are, just go backto last season.
We did a little episode on theMothman.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
That's right, we did that last season and then join
us at the festival Right In whatSeptember.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah, I think September we want to do a live
podcast from the festival itselfis what we want to do.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Or even maybe a Q&A.
If we can't do a live podcast,something cool, we just want to
be there.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
We want to be there and represent what we do and we
want to be there I've been therebefore to point pleasant
represent the mothman it's awild place.
It's a little sketchy uh, westvirginia.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
It's a little sketchy .

Speaker 1 (21:53):
You gotta watch it, you gotta watch your front and
you back in west virginia nowyou don't know what's gonna
happen, but it's a, it's a wildplace.
Uh, mothman's a whole othersubject, won't get into it too
much, but I do again think thatis something's.
Something's going on in there.
Something was going on at thattime, yeah there's too many

(22:13):
accounts.
Right, exactly, there's too manyaccounts of what happened that
were the same accounts that werelike I've seen this, this and
this, this happened, thishappened, this happened right
for it to just be a fluke.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
There's also too many accounts across the globe of
other creatures that areessentially the same in
different places I'm gonna saythis and it's gonna get a lot of
hate.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
I think maybe not a lot of hate, but it's a lot of
like negativity if you believein like I'm gonna say it.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
You know what I'm gonna say.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
I know if you believe in like jesus christ and you
believe in like there's thisalternate being in the world
that controls everything.
You have to believe thatthere's other things out there,
right, like you can't believethere's just one thing that
controls everything.
You have to believe there'sother things, is that not okay?

Speaker 2 (22:58):
I think you're describing it in, uh, and maybe
not the clearest of terms, butI'm just saying, if you believe,
okay, so people are divided intwo ways.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Big bang like shit happened, scientifically, yeah,
or a god-like figure controlledeverything yes that's the two
ways most people believe.
Most people, I say most right.
So if you believe in the latter, that that there is a the bible
can explain the big bang leavethat out I will.
That's what christians do.

(23:27):
Leave that out.
If you believe that god, thatthere is a human voice figure,
there's a human, well, yeah,whatever that controlled
everything but it's apossibility, right, so you have
to believe in that sense, thatthere is also other things that
exist I mean the bible spoke ofgiants.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
It did okay.
It even had like names for likethese alternate.
I'm not like arguing anything,I'm.
There's also other things thatexist.
Well, I mean the Bible spoke ofgiants.
It did, okay, it even had likenames for like these alternate.
I'm not like arguing anything,I'm saying like, even if you're
like, I am this hardcore, likeChristian, like there are like
there are things that are talkedabout Right, but there's things
that are not.
The Mothman's, not in the Bible.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Well, well, no, they're, they're not like.
But if you're, if you're, ifyour mind is, my point is, if
you're open to saying there isthis one human being that
created and controls the wholeuniverse you have to be open to
saying there's some also bad ornegative.
That's in the world, right yeahbut it's those same people
who's like all that shit don'texist maybe sometimes, but it
does like.
I feel like if you believe inone, you can't.
It's, it's very hypocritical tobelieve in one and not the
other probably right, no, nowhow we mean probably I'm just.

(24:32):
I'm just sitting on my fence,nope get off the fence because,
that's only, it's only right,because if you believe, in one
in sweden.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
That's all if you believe in one, you have to
believe in the other you don'thave to believe in it, but you
have to believe in the other.
You don't have to believe in it, but you have to say there's a
possibility of it, okay.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Okay, what about for the people that 1,000% believe
that there is a being consideredas a God who controlled
everything?
Yes, you, 1,000% believe inthat.
Yes, you don't have to.
1,000% believe that there isanother side to that.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Nope, you do not, because if this being controlled
everything he createdeverything.
You can say he didn't createthat, so there's not something
else there but he created but,but the devil fell from heaven.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Right, the devil was an angel that fell from, but the
devil didn't create that.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
The devil doesn't have the power to who says god
say he had no power.
He does not have the power ofcreation.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
No, not like that.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
I don't know that okay yeah, if that was the case,
why wouldn't he just create hisown world, instead of taking
gods?

Speaker 1 (25:34):
I don't feel like he's took gods.
He's trying exactly, but he'snot doing very good, but he
creates these minions, right?
Does he not create bad shit tohappen?

Speaker 2 (25:42):
where does bad shit come from.
There's a difference.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Where does bad shit come?
From heaven or hell, the devilor god?
Where does bad shit come?

Speaker 2 (25:48):
from that, shit just happens what does the devil do?

Speaker 1 (25:52):
he just sits there on his throne not doing anything.
The devil.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
I hear all the time he creates this shit.
Nope, the devil corrupts youdon't think that's not creating
woo.
There's a difference, okay, soI like it.
I like what we're doing rightnow.
So where do you?

Speaker 1 (26:09):
think the Mothman came from.
If he's real, where'd he comefrom?

Speaker 2 (26:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Do you think he came from God or the devil?

Speaker 2 (26:16):
The Mothman doesn't appear to be hurting anybody.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
He caused the bridge to collapse.
He showed up prior to Warren ofthis.
He showed up to warn of thisbridge collapsing.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
So if he is this warner, he sounds like an
angelic kind of fellow.
That's like, hey, danger ishappening.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
But he didn't show up doing good things.
He didn't show up to LilJohnny's birthday party to say,
hey, birthday party over here.
He showed up before all thesepeople died in a fucking bridge
collapse.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
It sounds like intuition.
It's no different thanIntuition is knowing.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
if I go down I-64, it's no different than intuition
is known.
If I go down i-64 it's gonna becrowded.
But if I take 60 what's thatcalled good instinct?

Speaker 2 (26:52):
I'm talking about like the intuition of like how
some people have that like weirdgut feeling, like oh something
oh wait, wait a minute.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Gut feeling is instinct.
Gut feeling is instinct.
Look it up Get feeling isinstinct.
So what's the difference?

Speaker 2 (27:08):
This is completely off topic.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
No, I'm just saying yes, it is because this isn't
about the Mothman.
I'm just saying I get that.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
I'm just 100%, but like there is a difference in
having the intuition or I can'teven think of the word currently
that's used, but for example, Ihad an uncle that passed away

(27:37):
and before he passed away hisaorta ruptured, okay, and it was
a very horrible, awful thing.
And the day that it happened Iwas sitting at home and I was
like something's wrong and Ididn't know what was wrong, but
I called every single personthat I had a phone number for in
my family to check on thembecause I was like something

(27:59):
isn't right somewhere and Icould feel it.
I knew that it was there.
I don't know clairvoyance,intuition, whatever you want to
call it, because I don't thinklike clairvoyance, but there's a
word for it.
It's a.
If you're looking biblically asa Christian, it is a gift from
God that that you have thisability.

(28:20):
Um, and then you know, withinhours I found out that this had
happened to my uncle and thesecond that I found out it
wasn't a good feeling becauseobviously it was an awful thing,
but it was like a almost like apiece that like, okay, that was
it same kind of thing when mymom had her congestive heart
failure.
I knew something was off,something was wrong and again I

(28:47):
started calling and like tryingto figure those things out.
It has happened a very, veryfew times in my life.
It's different than the gutfeeling of someone's doing
something that they shouldn't bedoing.
Gut feeling, this is anintuition kind of feeling of
something grander, somethingbigger, something is off within
the universe of my life andspace and people I care about.

(29:08):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 1 (29:10):
It does.
I called you at nine o'clockone morning and told you my
mother had been deceased.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
You did.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
And you told me that I was crazy.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
I didn't tell you you were crazy.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Well, you said that, like why do you think that
that's not true?
And I said it is Something's upRight, Something's wrong.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Exactly sort of connection there, some sort of
something right right.
So that's some sort of likeintuitive connection, that being
said, with the moth man.
If he is there warning againstsomething bad that's going to
happen, you don't.
You don't come to be likegreatness is happening.

(29:46):
You come to warn people to savepeople.
Not, he didn't like blockadethe bridge to keep people from
getting off, so he didn't stoppeople getting on that
motherfucker, he just let peoplekeep getting on maybe that's
not his part to play so you?

Speaker 1 (30:03):
so what are you as a mothman?
What?

Speaker 2 (30:05):
are you doing?
I'm saying as angels of God,they're there to.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
To try to stop you.
That's a shitty stop Like I'mgoing to attempt to stop you,
but if you don't stop, you needto get on.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
It's not, because free will is a thing, so that's
the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
I love this podcast.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
I love talking with you because I don't agree with
that at all.
Black men in black okay, soyou're pretty thanks.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
So bringing it back men in black and gray barker.
He said, you know, he thoughtthere was something mysterious
about the whole thing, but hedidn't personally put a ton of
stock into the Men in Black orthe Mothman.
It was interesting, it was cool, it was fun to write about, but

(30:54):
he didn't really take it superseriously.
His writing has been calledinto question because of that.
Because you read his writingsyou see the things that he's
talked about.
We've seen the movies.
We've, you know, done theresearch and it seems like he's
like gung-ho about it.
The movies We've, you know,done the research and it seems
like he's like gung-ho about it.
But he himself said, you know,there was something mysterious

(31:15):
about the whole thing, but hedidn't necessarily find all the
stories credible.
I'm sure some of them are notcredible.
So fine, whatever.
Albert Bender himself did writehis own book in 1962 about the
whole thing.
When he did that, he done amuch more vibrant, in-depth

(31:38):
description of the encounterthat was much more frightening
than the encounter that waspreviously reported, you know.
And so his book was calledFlying Saucers and the Three Men
.
We're going to list all thesebooks and different things in
the show notes so you can checkthem out, because there are
definitely, if nothing else, atleast interesting reads.

(31:59):
I have a ton more experiencesfrom people, so I'm going to
kind of try to like flow throughthem as quick as I can.
Some of them are short, some ofthem are definitely much more
in depth because sorry, that wasme shaking the things Some of
them are definitely, you know,just kind of quick, little,
almost quips kind of thingswhere they didn't get a ton of

(32:23):
media or attention.
So in 1967, I'm trying to kindof go in a timeline here so in
67, robert Richardson fromToledo, ohio, claims that while
driving at night he wrecked hiscar into a UFO.
When his car hit this UFO, theUFO immediately vanished, but a

(32:45):
small piece of metal was leftbehind.
He took this piece of metalhome, believing it was part of
the ufo, and then claimed tohave been visited by two men in
black who wanted the piece ofmetal.
He told him he didn't have itbecause he turned it in for
testing and then says these menthreatened him and his family.
They actually said, and I quoteif you want your wife to stay

(33:09):
as pretty as she is, you wouldbetter get the medal back told
you right that didn't fuckingmake you forget shit, they just
threatened your shit that'sright absolutely
and the fuckers all of these arevery similar in that sense of
like threatening.
So then in 1968, new jersey,jack robinson and his wife mary,
their ufo researchers, claimedthat they were terrorized by a

(33:32):
man in black and I've got somepictures I'm going to have
Mitchell post from some of theseaccounts, things that like kind
of went along with them.
So they said that for days onend a man stood across the
street from his and his wife'sapartment.
Several times they came homeand their apartment appeared to
have been broken into.

(33:53):
Things were gone through,especially their research about
UFOs.
So at one point Mary mentionedit to a friend of theirs, tim
Green.
Well, I guess Tim Green,beckley, I guess he's got three
names here this man, their buddy, snapped a picture of this
supposed man in black fromacross the road.
This picture is one of the veryfew like actual, supposed, you

(34:18):
know pieces of evidence that menin black really exist.
So it is a kind of grainy blackand white photo.
So it is a kind of grainy blackand white photo.
We will share a copy of thatfrom the 60s.
It's weird.
It could very well be like hey,this really is proof of a man

(34:39):
in black, obviously this guykind of standing about halfway
out of an alleyway, or maybemaybe it's the end of the block,
I'm not really sure In a blacksuit, I think he's got a hat on,
um, but it also.
You know, we're talking aboutthe 60s, we're talking about New

(34:59):
Jersey, so we're talking abouta city.
Men wore suits to work in thisday and age.
So could it have been a guythat was just like randomly
standing there?
So could it have been a guythat was just like randomly
standing there?
Yes, but it's definitely superinteresting because maybe it is,
maybe it's really proof of aman in black.

(35:19):
You know, there's no guarantee.
It's definitely not like adoctored photo or anything.
This guy was standing there.
So with that we'll move on todr herbert hopkins.
In 1976 in maine he was anacting consultant on a ufo
incident.
He got a call from someoneclaiming to be from a new jersey

(35:43):
ufo organization.
So they were a ufo activist.
They asked him hey, are youhome alone?
Are you available to do aninterview for your research?
And he's like, yeah, sure, Ican totally do that.
So he says he hung up the phone, flipped some lights on and
turned around and they were athis door.
Like here they are coming uphis walkway.

(36:05):
So he gives one of the mostvividly creepy descriptions.
He said that this man wasalready walking up to his house.
He had no eyebrows, noeyelashes, he was pasty white
but had a very neatly tailoredblack suit and the only thing of
color was his ruby red lips andI think like ruby red, red like

(36:30):
lipstick, or was he so palethat the pink of his lips just
seemed really bright.
I don't know, we'll see.
That's where I'm like, you know, like, I think, powder 1000%
here.
So he claims that as this mancome in, his dog lost it like
freaking out, barking the wholetime from the second this guy

(36:50):
entered his house.
So the man was very emotionlessand monotone, like a machine and
then said that the man told himthere were two coins in his
pocket, like Hopkins pocket.
Said you've got two coins inyour pocket, which he's correct
he did.
And then he said said, pull oneout.
So he pulled out a shiny redpenny in the palm of his hand

(37:13):
and the man said watch the coinclosely.
And after a few moments thecoin turned into a silver,
bluish color, got fuzzy and thenblurry and then began to fade
away until it vanishedcompletely like.
Not only now are the men inblack weird and creepy, but
they're magic.
So this is where we don't thinkthey're human.

(37:35):
Maybe they're some sort ofextraterrestrial.
This is where that kind ofcreeps in here.
So he said that.
The man then asked well, firsthe told him that the coin would
never be seen on this planeagain, it's never going to be
seen on this plane of theuniverse again, and then said

(37:57):
are you familiar with thealleged UFO abductee, barney
Hill?
This man that had claimed tohave been abducted by a UFO and
Hopkins said I know the name,name, but I heard that he passed
away rather recently.
So this man in black saidBarney didn't have a heart, just
like you no longer have a coin.
So with that, barney Hillactually died of a cerebral

(38:23):
hemorrhage.
He didn't die because his heartdisappeared.
But this man in black thensuggested that the doctor should
destroy any research he hadpertaining to the UFO case.
He said, and I quote make yourresearch vanish like I made this
coin vanish.
You can be a magician too.
So he claims to.

(38:43):
He didn't really say themagician too.
Part, but you know, make yourresearch vanish like I made the
coin vanish.
You know it needs to go.
He claims that he was so shakenby the experience he then burned
all of his files and um saidthat he had trouble with his

(39:04):
phone after the incident for along, long time afterwards.
Like his phone gave him so muchtrouble that he called the
phone company.
The phone company said that hisphone lines had been tampered
with.
So he believed that he then hadhis phone lines tapped so that
they were making sure.
You know that he didn't sharehis research or he didn't go

(39:26):
back to it or whatever.
But he said he never sawanother man in black, that he
never came back or anything, butthat he did have, you know,
like the phone issues.
So super weird stuff.
Um, the next story and I don'thave a date on this one, so I
just kind of popped it in herejim tippleton.

(39:46):
His story is a little bit of adifferent type.
It wasn't a UFO sighting.
He had a picture of hisdaughter.
So he was in a field with hiswife and daughter having a
picnic and he snapped a fewpictures of his daughter just
sitting, super sweet, and I'vegot a copy of that too.
We'll share it.

(40:07):
She's in the field just holdingsome flowers in her little
sundress, but once he developedit there is a figure behind her
and the figure behind her lookskind of like maybe it's someone
in a spaceman suit.
What's interesting is that hedid take three photos, but only
in this one photo did thisfigure appear.

(40:31):
It wasn't in the other two andfrom what I gather, they were
taken simultaneously so itwasn't like a picture here
picture 10 minutes later.
It was like he snapped a few tomake sure that they got a good
shot right.
So the film was authenticatedby Kodak, said it wasn't
tampered with, it wasn't a fake,was authenticated by Kodak,
said it wasn't tampered with, itwasn't a fake.

(40:51):
And not long after the storywent public, he said he was
visited by two government agentswho referred to themselves only
as 9 and 10.
He asked for identification andthey said they had none, that
they were referred to by number.
Several accounts have said thiswhen people ask for names or
identification, they onlyidentified by number back and

(41:13):
forth, as though they didn'thave names or they didn't want
names out there.
Um, so these guys wanted totalk to him.
They wanted to go to the siteand see where he took these
pictures you're gonna take someguys with you, just right my
number is nine get that guy inthe back of your suburban and be
like jump on in dude.

(41:34):
Well, he got in the car withthem nope all right, my number
is nine.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
This is 11.
Jump on in.
We're fine, we're legit we'renine and ten.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Direct us to where you took the photos of your
daughter.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
How about that I?

Speaker 2 (41:45):
just want to take a few pictures no no, no, right,
not today.
That shit doesn't happen todaythough.
No, no, back then it may have.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
But like so trusting she'll put out somebody's house
now and be like my number is 37.
I want you to get in thisfucking.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Cadillac with me.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Let's take you down the road right no not happening,
but like I'd be, like, I thinkmatter of fact, that shit may
not have happened in kentucky in1947, because you still got
your ass shot.
Like if you're gonna show up atsomebody's doorstep with a
number and not a name, shake myhand, look me in the eye and
tell me you're not even gonnashow me your identification

(42:23):
you're gonna tell me your numberwith?

Speaker 2 (42:24):
no, you ain't got no fucking eyebrows like you're not
gonna show me something right.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
You're gonna show no eyebrows with some ruby red lips
.
Yeah, tell me your number's, 11, and let me get in the car with
you.
Yeah, you know what you can do.
You can fuck up.
That's what you can do you'renot going to 1947 and 77 and 97
in 2023.
You can still 2057.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
You can still go to hell in kentucky.
We ain't getting in the car withyou, for shit right and he even
said like in his account he waslike, you know, the only other
people that were around therewas like, I think he said like a
couple old ladies that were,you know, off to the side but
not near them.
So but he did, he, he took themto this place, like essentially
like they took him to thisplace and they asked him

(43:09):
questions and then they wantedto know what he had saw.
They were like well, you tookthese pictures of her, what did
you see?
And he told him.
He said, when I looked throughthe camera, I didn't see
anything.
I saw my daughter.
That was it, like there was,was nothing behind her.

(43:30):
It was when I developed thepicture that I saw this now,
with that being said, I alsowant to specify that when I was
looking at this, the type ofcamera that he was using, they
said you know the, I don't knowcameras, so whatever the lens is
, the way that you look out, itwasn't a phenomenal like like

(43:51):
cameras we have now, where youget to see like the whole
picture and you know like, ohwell, I'm gonna, you know, turn
my camera this way so that 75%of it is whatever beautiful
background and this 25 camerasweren't like that, you know.
So they said that like the viewviewfinder.

(44:11):
Is that what it is?
Maybe I don't know, but theview from it wasn't like a
phenomenal view for what wasgoing on around, and if he was
just looking at it to only lookat his daughter, he might not
have seen anything.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
Um, this is also 1947 , I'm assuming the cameras
weren't like I think we'relooking.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
We're probably looking more into the 70s here I
mean, I have an iphone se andmy my picture is still pixelated
from four foot away yeah, sowith this he said that when he
told them he didn't actually seeanything, they got angry and
they left, like left him therein the field.

(44:50):
He had to walk home wait aminute, you.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
You number 11 done.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Took me to the to the field took you to the field
with no eyebrows and then he gotmad because you didn't see
anything and he just left me andhe left you that's bullshit he
left.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
You know what number 11 your ass he ain't getting
that, he ain't getting secondbase.
Like that, you don't leavesomebody in the field.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
He left your ass there.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
That ain't how it happens.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Well, that's how this happened, supposedly so left
him there, said he blew off thecouple of men as just messing
with him.
He's like, ah, just a coupleguys messing with me, saying he
didn't believe they wereactually agents of any type, but
he still got in that car withthem and went.
Nope, this guy seems likenonsense.
So there was also a story thatthere was a Blue Streak missile

(45:34):
launch that was about 20 milesaway.
Said that they contacted himafter they saw this picture
because the picture went viral,and said that the launch itself
had been canceled because twofigures that matched the

(45:54):
description of this thing thatwas in the photo with his
daughter were within the firingrange of this missile test.
So these people could havegotten hurt by this missile
launch test and they appeared tobe in the same clothing garment
, whatever they looked like,what this picture looked like.
So this one, I feel like, is alittle harder to believe,

(46:14):
because I looked at this pictureand I'd done several different
things that I saw that they saidwell, if you do a, b, c and d
to it, you know it looks morelike a regular person, like if
you line the horizon and youchange the exposure and you
darken the image and you do blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
whatever.
So one journalist come out,david clark, and said that he

(46:36):
believes that this quote figureis actually templeton's wife,
annie, from behind.
That maybe while he was takingthe picture she walked by it
caught her image from behind.
She was wearing a light paleblue dress that day.
Whatever this figure has onappears to be white and if it

(46:57):
was overly exposed a pale bluedress could look white, said she
had like short brown hair.
Um, so he believes that when hewas looking through the frame
she wasn't seeing because he wasfocused on the daughter.
Maybe she was standing thereand then walked off and that
would explain this.
Maybe you line it up, you can'ttell that it's a dress or

(47:18):
anything.
And honestly, if she had brownhair, I think if she had a
handkerchief over her hair orsomething like I know that was
kind of a thing in like the 60sand 70s um, maybe, maybe, I
don't know.
I don't really think it lookslike a spaceman either, but we
can totally post the picture and, like you guys, tell us it's

(47:38):
definitely interesting, it'sdifferent, but there's never.
There's no more accounts oflike them just angrily storming
off.
They didn't even threaten him.
Where's the threats man?
We want the good stuff, thethreats, so with that we go.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
So they just showed up, weren't happy with what he
said and was like fuck you,leaving you in this field.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Well, he didn't see anything, so I guess they had
nothing to fill Right, so theyjust left him.
But like, why wouldn't theywant the picture?
Everybody else, they but likewhy, wouldn't they want the
picture everybody else they'velike give us the stuff or
destroy it.
Right, you know, but theydidn't ask for that, but even
though they just took his wordfor it and just left him in the
field, yep, just left him.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
See you later.
Yeah, he kind of brings me downa little bit, because I really
thought I was gonna have someammunition to go against this.
And now this guy kind of yeah,the guy that, so what?
Okay?
When was this?

Speaker 2 (48:28):
again, I don't remember okay well, I didn't
date it, unfortunately all right.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Well, so this was after the last guy, right?
Yes, that guy passed in 2002,right?
When did this guy pass?

Speaker 2 (48:41):
I don't know we didn't date it at all I did not
date when he passed, but I doknow.
I want to say that it wasn'tthat long ago.
All right, um, here's thepicture I'm showing mitchell the
picture right now that I have.
There's the little girl withthe space man in the back, so

(49:02):
this space man spoke.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
No, tell me about this one.
Tell us why I'm looking at itlive.
Can you tell me?
He supposedly took this pictureyes didn't realize there was
anything behind him.
There was, he said there wasnobody else in the field but you
didn't notice this beekeeperbehind you said that that only
came out once it was developednow just like so, just like I

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will call bs on any other thingelse, I'm gonna call bs on this,
because there ain't no way youtook this picture and didn't
know and it knows the beekeeperbehind you.
You can call it spaceman.
All you want that is a straightup beekeeper.
He, even just little like drandran, pose like he's about to
start dancing you can dance ifyou wanna, you can leave your

(49:45):
friends behind.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
That's what he's doing that's kind of yes yes,
and that's why they said, likeif you tilt the horizon, you
change it, and maybe I'll dothat for you and show you later.
No, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
Tilt the right.
What do you mean?

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Like, you have to like edit it Still there.
Yes, it's not going to make himdisappear.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
I.
You can dance if you want to.
Not at all, you can leave yourfriends behind.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
But they did, but if you see an alien and you don't
tell us we're going to show upat your door.
That's what they said.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
I mean, I'm pretty sure if you just tell other
people to show up at your door.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Well, I mean we tell other people, Maybe I've seen
some aliens.
I want to see them show up atmy door.
You have not seen aliens youthink you know you think you
know.
You have no idea, you don'tknow what I've seen.
I've seen shit you've seensomething I'm from olive hill,
kentucky I've seen some shit.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
You've seen some weird things.
I'm sure it's not really aliens?

Speaker 1 (50:39):
it's not aliens at all.
I wish it was aliens, would bethe least of what I've seen
aliens would be like a respitealiens would be the best of what
I've seen in my life.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
So, yes, right, go ahead with it but so they did do
interviews, of course you know,and all sorts of things.
Um, I believe it was thedaughter that said, you know,
the media wasn't really great tothem, so she didn't love the
interviews.
And I believe he was the onethat when he passed away, like
he said, you know, like hisarchives were left to the

(51:12):
daughter, you know, like thedaughters and stuff, because, of
course, like this picturehappened, like where, where did
it go, and whatever, but it'sbeen circulated a ton.
So next up we've got PaulMiller.
He said he was returning homeafter a hunting trip.
He saw a disc in the sky so itland in an open field.
This guy must have been fromsomewhere like kentucky.

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I did not put on here where hewas from, but he said it landed
in an open field and twohumanoid beings exited the craft
.
So he jumps out and he shootshis gun at them.
He gets his gun out and he'sramboing it that's a kentucky
thing, right?

Speaker 1 (51:52):
that's what I said yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
so he believes he hit one and he panics because holy
shit, I just shot an alien.
So he gets back in his car andhe flees like he's getting out.
He's booking it.
But then he realizes thatsomehow he's lost time, he's hit

(52:15):
some sort of weird time warpHours have passed, three hours
almost to be exact, but then hejust lets it go, goes home, goes
on to bed, goes to work thenext day, almost as though
nothing has happened.
Hell, he works for the air force.
It's cool.
He sees weird things, he's beenthrough some things.

(52:35):
But then when he enters work,he says he's immediately
confronted by three men in black.
These men said we have yourfile.
It's weird because he's nottalked to anybody about anything
that happened.
But these men said they knewall about it and that it'd be

(52:57):
best for him to forget that itever happened.
He said these men kneweverything about him and asked
questions as though they alreadyknew the answers to him, said
he was so scared that he didn'tspeak about it for years.
So I've got just a couple more,if you got me here I'm real
pissed off though right the.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
The first guy gave me a lot of confidence, lots.
These last two have reallyslacked I know, and this is this
guy just forgets three fuckinghours or four hours and he's
just like, ah, fuck it, I'mgonna go home and go to bed.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
No, you don't right, you just.
You don't stay up all nightwondering had.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
I came to you and be like oh, it's four in the
morning, honey, I don't knowwhere it went.
At midnight I shot an alien andthen I lost four hours.
You don't think I'd wake you upand be like holy shit, I just
shot maybe he wasn't marriedokay, you think I'm calling my
best friend to be like oh myshit, dude, I just shot an alien
and I lost four.
You're just gonna go to bed andpretend it didn't happen maybe
he worked at a like at a time heworked at fucking the air force

(53:55):
you just said I know, but like,maybe it was like no, no, why
now?
Why are you making excuses formy side?
I'm, I'm just you are.
No, it doesn't counter me youdon't just skip three hours of
life and wake up and be like I'mgoing to work I get that, but
like my brother was in themilitary and there are things
that he's like we don't talkabout, like that's different
than not talking about then,just not being that.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
No, no, maybe not I, I agree.
I think it makes it flimsy itone for a person who wants to
believe yeah you really suckedit up on this one want to
believe you're calling balllightning, ball lightning.
On this calling ball lightning,where's ozzy at ball lightning?

Speaker 1 (54:35):
because you don't just forget three or four hours
and just pretend it didn'tfucking happen if I woke up
tomorrow and it's what what areyou gonna rate this?
On the dd scale, it's 9 35right now if I walked out this
bedroom door from our podcaststudio, which is also our
daughter's bedroom door, and itwas three in the morning, I'm
like where the fuck did fivehours go?

(54:57):
I'm not just like, well, let'sjust go to bed and forget it.
No right, where those five hoursgo, I don't know I agree that's
bs and just to be known sononchalant so they just showed
up right, I just like went towork and here they were you know
where I would go tomorrow?
To the fbi is where I would be,would you I?
Don't think so I would gosomewhere you would find some

(55:20):
like alien people, I would calltom delong from blink 182 and be
like yo dude, really, yes, he'sthe one that got out of this
house you're not gonna call likejack osborne why would I fuck
what I call jack osborne?
fuck jack osborne tom delong'sthe reason the ufos I know it
should ever exist, but for thegovernment, I know I would call
him straight and be like look, Iwent out my bedroom last night,

(55:42):
I lost five hours and all of asudden there was some men in
black at my door.
What's jack?
Osborne gonna do oh, you wantto feed my puppy and talk to my
dad who's half fuckingdelusional.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
He's going to show some videos and write it on his
woogie boogie scale.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
Well, that's fine, woogie, boogie, my ass.
I want to find some real shitout.
I'm going to Tom DeLonge to say, hey, look what's happening
here, these eyebrows, son of myhouse and I lost five hours of
my day and they threatened myfamily but he didn't get a
threat for his family because hejust went to work like it was
normal maybe he wanted it to benormal I don't know.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
He shot at some aliens right, yeah, it's super
weird so you shoot at somealiens and it's like he starts
he starts out as a badass, andthen he's like I'm just going to
work.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
It's like if I just went today I'm a service, was
like I'm just here.
I'm just here to work.
It's like if I just went to theambulance service and was like
I'm just here to pull my shift,I'm here to pull my shift.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
Is that not what you guys do?

Speaker 1 (56:33):
After I shoot an alien.
Oh okay, Hell no.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
Okay, gotcha.
I was like, that's how youalways shoot.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
My whole day changes if I shoot an alien first.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
I probably wouldn't be going to work the next day.
I'd be like I totally shot.
We would definitely if you see,if you see aliens ever if you
see aliens ever, we're not gonnahave one, two, three men in

(57:03):
black, we're gonna have thewhole brigade you can bet mitch
kaiser gonna tell the fuckingtruth I seen a fucking alien.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
I shot that motherfucker in the back and he
just wandered on.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
I'm telling everybody he just wandered on.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
And if I didn't, if he fell down, you know what I'm
going to do.
I'm not going to run, I'm goingto bring his carcass.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
You's dissect him I'm about.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Let's put him on the grill, see what he tastes like.
No weird.
How do you know?
I don't know.
It depends on what it lookslike it tastes great.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Maybe it's delicious you just found a new food source
right now we're in trouble.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
We're in, so much the first guy, that alligator.
You don't think it was like I'mgonna shoot this alligator and
eat it.
You don't think his buddieswere like dude, what the fuck,
are you thinking?
So if I was like I'm gonnashoot this alien.
I'm gonna shoot this alien, eatit and you're gonna be like
that's nasty.
I'm gonna be like wait till youdeep fry it depends on what
they look like.
If they look, if you deep fried, it's gonna taste good people

(57:59):
like I don't think I could do itif it was deep fried, because
I'd be like how do I know thatthat's not a person?
it's deep fried.
Does it have two hearts or isthere something weird?
If you ate another person deepfried, it's deep fried.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Nope, I don't like deep fried.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Put some breading on it, it's fine.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
I don't like breading .

Speaker 1 (58:15):
Whatever Go ahead, tell me the rest of these
stories.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Tell me the rest of these stories.
You are nonsense.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Whoever that guy was, sucks.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
So we're going to move on to Danny Gordon.
Danny, we're going to move onto Danny Gordon.
Danny Gordon better have somebetter evidence than the last
guy.
So Danny Gordon was a radiopersonality who was obsessed
with UFO sightings.
So when multiple happenedacross I hope I'm saying this
right Wythe County, w-y-t-h-e,he began taking photos when they

(58:47):
were reported.
He began taking photos whenthey were reported, said.
He eventually snapped somephotos at close range that were
said to verify that these flyingobjects were of another world.
But that's when strange thingsbegan to happen.
He started to get phone callsfrom a quote ex-military man
this is the claim Warning himthat his research would cost him

(59:08):
everything and to stop for hisfamily's sake.
That lines up the family's sake, that it's going to cost you
everything.
And an in-person interview bytwo men in black who claimed to
work for a magazine.
After the interview, all of hisphotos, all of his stuff was
gone.
So he called the magazine toget his things back and found

(59:31):
out that they'd never heard ofhim, they had never paid to have
an article written about him.
No, men in black worked forthem.
They didn't care about him.
So shortly afterwards he wassaid to have suffered a heart
attack and gave the story up tosave his health.
They said this is stressing youout too much, you can't keep

(59:52):
doing this.
Once he quit with the FBI, withthe UFO stuff, he said he was
never bothered again.
Still flimsy, a little moreclose to the originals.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Bring the first guy back.
Bring the first guy back.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
This guy sucks too I want to bring the next guy all
right, because you should knowthis one, none other than the
original ghostbuster himself, mrdan akroyd all right, now we're
getting somewhere in 2002 innew york he was filming a show
called out there.
It was all about ufos, cropcircles, abductions.
He's a believer.

(01:00:33):
Said that he had to take aquick break to answer a phone
call.
When he went outside said hereported that a black sedan
pulled up and a large man gotout and looked at him from
across the road, didn't approachhim but stood there, looked at
him very grimace-y, justthreatening, like I'm assuming

(01:00:56):
New York maybe traffic's busy,something, so he couldn't
immediately cross the road.
I don't know that.
Said he looked away for whatwas just a couple seconds and
looked back.
He was gone.
There was nothing there.
So what's the most interestingabout it?
Not that this guy's, like youknow, giving him, you know, some
hardcore resting bitch face oranything, but that when he went

(01:01:22):
back in he was given the newsfor zero reason.
He was given the news for zeroreason.
Show's canceled, we will notcontinue taping, and that we're
not going to air anything.
It's cut, it's dead.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Whole show's done.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Whole show's done, never aired, never nothing.
We will not air this.
It's dead.
Be done with it.
Dan Aykroyd has talked about it.
He believes this was a man inblack and they shut his show
down but what'd he say, had hesaid anything at this point?
I have no idea.

(01:01:57):
Maybe his research or whateverhe had was enough that they
didn't want it out there maybe,maybe, so it's hard it is it's
dan akroyd.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
People are gonna believe what he says.
He's a celebrity because he'sdan I think, bring the first guy
back right first guy had somethe first two guys were real
good first, the second two guysjust kind of weren't my, my mojo
so, like as I was reading,these are like the top
encounters or whatever, the verylast guy, a little more

(01:02:32):
evidence here,

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
visual physical.
So shane sovar and an unnamedhotel security guard this is
2009 in niagara falls claimed tohave seen a large triangular
ufo or maybe just an illuminatisomething who knows but this
claim was then looked into bysome aerial phenomenon

(01:02:57):
investigators team.
This team reported that atleast three other witnesses saw
some stuff, and then men inblack visited the hotel looking
for Shane and the security guard.
There's video footage of thesetwo men coming into the hotel.
They were said to be abnormallytall.
You know this footage I'mtalking about, don't you?

(01:03:20):
I do yes, 100 so they were saidto be identical, to look
identical.
I said that already.
Sorry, I've had some drinks too, guys go with it yeah, they
were tall, identical.
They were in the suits andthere's the video footage to to
show that two men who appear tobe tall in suits came in through

(01:03:42):
these doors.
It wasn't like they justappeared, there was no evidence
of them, they were there.
There's nobody else standingbeside them to prove that they
were like abnormally tall or big.
But everybody the whole hotelstaff said that was working,
that saw them said they wereterrifying.
These men were scary, they werepale, they were, you know, no

(01:04:02):
eyebrows, they had no lashes,they were in black suits, they
had black hats on and they camein and they wanted shane and the
security guard.
Luckily neither of them wereworking, so they did not have to
, you know, talk to them.
So one woman who spoke with themclaimed that those men she

(01:04:23):
thought were able to read hermind.
So there's not a whole lot togo off of.
But they you know how it iswhen you feel like you're like
looking at someone and like, ohmy god, they totally know what
I'm thinking and that might justbe like they were scary,
looking so like she just, youknow, got a little overzealous,

(01:04:44):
I don't know.
So it's it's real tough.
So it's like are they aliens?
Are they a section of thegovernment, something like the
fbi or cia?
They regulate what the publichas or hears to keep from that
mass hysteria.
That's it yeah, I've seen thatpicture several times but
there's a video where you cansee them walking through the
doors.
It's like a little like morefocused in and you see them,

(01:05:06):
because there's a guy that'sinside between like two sets of
doors and that's where they'relike well, look at how short he
looks compared to them.
But it's it's at such an anglethat it maybe, maybe not I don't
know, yeah.
So it's like you know, likewe've got these accounts.
Some of them sound reallycredible, some of them are
pretty flimsy, like maybe, maybenot.

(01:05:28):
Is it, you know, something likethe government's like well, we
can't give them too much becausewe don't ever want people to be
hysterical because they can'thandle the truth, or is it kind
of like what the government does, where they kind of trickle the
information out to keep peoplehysterical in times that they
kind of want that hysteria?

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
you know.
So my thing is distraction.
Had they wanted so?
Tom delong yeah, a celebrityyep musician right, very well
known for his time as leadsinger, blink 182.
Yeah, had they not wanted toshut him up?
I get how powerful acelebrity's voice is, but could
they not have shut him up?
Had they wanted to, they couldhave.

(01:06:10):
They.
Let him have that stance theydid they let what they wanted to
know come out they did so isthere more hidden?
1 000?
This is my belief yeah 1 000.
There is so much more hidden.
There is so much more we don'tknow.
They're letting us know what wewant to know.

(01:06:31):
That encompasses this yeah, dowe, as civilians, want to know?
Right what is really fuckingout there?
Yeah because if there's somegreen ass, hostile ass, alien
trying to take over our fuckingworld, do you want to know that?

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
I don't fucking want to know that.
Probably not.
It's like all the asteroidsthat come towards the world I
can't deal with.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
I gotta work and we're two nurses short at work
right so you're about to tell methere's a fucking 13 foot
fucking alien about to take overthe planet?
I don't want to know that soyou say that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
But like tom delong, I remember initially his alien
claims and I know becausethey're like what uaps or
something?

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
now they're not even you ate unidentified aerial
phenomenon.
Yeah, something like that.
You're right, you're right so Iremember that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
But I also remember all of the articles about kind
of how like mentally unstable hewas.
That also came out like kind ofright along with that of course
and it was like.
It was like they were kind oflike well, like obviously
there's some unidentified aerialphenomenon, but that doesn't
mean that it's somethingotherworldly.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
But they also released all those videos of
those.
Air Force pods, it was likeholy shit, that thing went from
here to here so fast it couldn'thave been humanly possible,
right, that's where we get likenope.
But look at us now.
We still don't know any morethan we did then.
We just know that there's someshit out there right enough to

(01:08:03):
satisfy us.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
There's nobody.
There's something right?
Nobody's out there picketing,petitioning, throwing a fucking
fit.
So that's where I'm like.
Are they using it to theiradvantage of?
like media that they use a bunchof bitches they use all sorts
of information for that masshysteria, like mass shootings,
when they report this one versusthis one versus that one, like
how many actually happen?
You don't really look at thosestatistics, you just look at
what they say, what hits themainstream illnesses like covid,

(01:08:25):
like holy cow, like that wasreally you know, like it's a
scary thing, but but dependingon which way you're going or
what you're watching, weatherchanges, like all the political
shit, like all of that.
It's all used to manipulate it,which is why, like what?
75 of the media is manipulatedso that you know you believe
what they want you to believe.

(01:08:46):
Everybody's got an agenda,whatever, fine I'm trying to
find some pictures.
You know, men in black soobviously, why not alien stuff?
But also, you know then again,like maybe it's that they want
to like let a little bit outhere and there.

(01:09:07):
It kind of like keeps peopleinto that like submission, like
you're saying, like just enoughthat we're submissive about it.
It's that controlled hysteria.
You know where you create thatlike psychological drama because
we've got this willingness tobelieve.
But then you know you've gotthese people that don't believe.
So you've got, you know, yourhardcore.

(01:09:28):
You know like, oh, we believethis, we believe this, and
you're getting obsessive.
But then you've got your peopleon the other side.
So you've got this whole likewonderful manipulation of like
damned if you do, damned if youdon't.
So you're almost like pittedagainst each other.
It's like like the perfectconspiracy keep just enough out
there that you're gonna keepeverybody at all.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
Here's my thing the government is shady shady as
fuck lies Lies about everything.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Well, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
They're only going to tell us what they want us to
know?
Yep, but at the same time, ifyou told them, if you told the
citizens or you told the worldwhat really was going on, how
much craziness would fuckingensue.
So what do they have to do?

(01:10:19):
If they were to come out and belike all right, here's the deal
.
Covid was started in a lab.
There's fucking aliens, fucking.
Jesus christ is real.
Whatever it be, the world isgoing to fucking panic.
Yeah, so they have some sort ofeither ability or right or job
to keep that at bay.
Yeah, so do I blame them fornot saying okay?

(01:10:42):
So you remember that scene ofan independence day where the
president goes up to the glassand aliens like we're?
here to destroy you or kill youor whatever he fucking says.
And he says in that fuckingvoice it's all crazy.
And he lets you know he's thereto fucking kill everybody.
If that's what the aliens cameto say yeah we would be rioting
and looting and fucking up eachother within six fucking hours,

(01:11:06):
you think?

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
you think about small things, you think about a
tornado that comes through andrips through a town, and they're
like well, we need to, you know, shut everything down because
it's too dangerous to be on theroads and people go out and they
loot everything.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
You think about COVID ?
They were stealing handsanitizer and selling it for
four times the fucking price.
Yeah, so it's not always thegovernment's fault.
It's also our fault becausewe're a bunch of assholes,
because we are out to fuckingfor each other.
I'm not out for you.
I'm out for you because you'remy wife, right?
If you were a stranger?

(01:11:43):
I'm not out for you, right?
If the?
If the government said tomorrowaliens are real, I'm stealing
every row of fucking four-plyfucking toilet paper I can find.
I'm gonna sell it to you for 26dollars a fucking roll tomorrow
, because the aliens are gonnatake all your toilet paper how
do you?
they gotta wipe their ass justas well as we do.
How do you know?
I don't know right but we'renot going to take our chances.
You still got to wipe your ass,yeah, right, yeah.
So, regardless if the alienshave to wipe their ass, you
still have to wipe yours.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
Yeah, that's why people build the bunkers and all
the things.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
But if I steal all the toilet paper you got to pay
for it.
Yep, and you're going to payfor it.
Yep, just like you did house,fucking flower, all the shit you
paid for for covid, because weare the assholes not the
government's assholes too.
But we're right there with thembecause we're a bunch of
insensitive out for their self,self-centered assholes?

(01:12:27):
yeah, but we like to stand onour superior moral right and
pretend we're not but we are orthey wouldn't have been selling
fucking hand sanitizer for ninedollars a bottle.
So if you listen to this,you're just as big as asshole as
anybody else we play, we playthe.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
We play like oh well, the government made us do it
right?

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
no, they didn't.
Your fucking greedy ass madeyou fucking do it.
Because, honestly, if thegovernment told you everything
they knew, you don't want toknow.

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
Right, you don't want , I don't want to know that's
their job.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
Let them do what they fucking do.
Do I think aliens are real onethousand percent?
Do I know if they're littlegreen men?
I don't know that.
Do I think there is life formoutside of the earth?
If you don't believe that, thenyou are naive and as silly as
shit if you don't think thatthere is life outside of earth.
Yeah, because there's otherplaces that are that life can

(01:13:17):
exist, other than this fuckingplanet.
So if you don't think there'ssome sort of us out there,
you're very naive, I feel likemaybe you don't maybe you don't,
and that's fine, but I do, yeah, but I also think if the
government told us everythingthat was out there, everything
they knew, everything that wasin those files, oh my gosh that
you wouldn't lose your fuckingmind.

(01:13:38):
You're insane.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
Yeah, I'm losing mine thinking about it, maybe
because I'm half drunk, butthat's another side, oh my gosh,
like if you've ever watchedlike government tv, like where
they like do all the stuff likec-span or whatever like yeah,
did you just talk about c-span?
I mean I, I mean I'd get it, butlike I remember taking a
government class in college andlike watching, like having to

(01:14:00):
like watch certain things forlike class stuff right and being
like, yeah, a lot of this isstuff like I don't want to know
right, you don't want to know,man, I don't want to know those
things like like I'm okayputting my head in the sand for
some things right like noteverything but ignorant is bliss
in some aspects yeah I haveenough to worry about.
Yes, like we got kids, I haveelectric bills to pay.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
I can't worry about aliens coming and taking my gosh
damn life if I've got to payelectric.
But I can't call that from likehey, I was gonna pay y'all this
month, but them aliens came andthey took my four-ply toilet
paper and I just can't afford topay the whole bill.
If I can get it on, like maybean extension plan, then I could
pay it, but right now I gotta Igotta worry about these aliens
coming no, no, it doesn't work.

(01:14:42):
I gotta pay the electric billyep, fuck those aliens until
they show up at my door.
I'm not worried about thealiens no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Well, that's fine, I'm just kidding, they show up
three in the morning.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
They're gonna get more than they bargain with.
I will send them back to theirmothership with what I like to
call just fuck the neighbor'scat.
Look on their face that's wildthey won't know what.
You're gonna show up threeo'clock tomorrow my door and not
think I'm gonna send you backhome a little weirder than you
left with welcome to theweirdness right come on to dad's

(01:15:15):
house.
Let's see what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
Hello weirdo, I got this whole spare bedroom we've
been waiting.
We've been waiting for you.
Come on, see dad, let's talkabout it but listen, in all
reality that was.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
That was way more than I ever thought, because I
assume little green man and somepeople came down was like you
didn't see that and I know theydidn't flash you like tommy lee
jones did, but I thought theywere like you don't talk about
it, I'm gonna kill your daughter, type of shit, and they kind of
they kind of did that.
But, like I said, the themiddle people kind of seemed

(01:15:51):
like they were maybe out forattention.
The first couple guys reallyseemed like they like the first
guy.
The first guy really seemedlike they like the first guy.
The first guy really seemedlike he might have had his shit
in line, like maybe he's reallyseen some shit.
And I think I don't know this,but I was told by a friend there
was a recent case.
I'm sure there is, and when Isay recent, I mean within the
last couple of years in theStates that somebody seen some

(01:16:15):
shit and the government came inand maybe the men in black might
have showed up and been like yo, you didn't really see nothing,
and I don't know.
If that's true, we'll have tolook that up, we'll get back to
you on that, but I think thatmight have been a thing.
So if that's a case, thenyou've got what 47 you said, or
some shit, was the first case1947 is like the first

(01:16:38):
documented men in black okay.
So if something happened in thelast couple years, you're
talking almost 80 years of thisshit.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
Yeah, at some point there's some truth to that right
and at the same time, it's likethe first like documented maybe
before that, like they reallydid scare people enough to not
talk, or you know.
I mean like you think aboutlike how well things were
documented.
You can go back and you canfind all sorts of like weird,
random things that they'vealways been like well.

(01:17:05):
These hieroglyphics show thatlike blah, blah, blah happened.

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
But we're also talking about people who just
admitted to things.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
Yes, In the 40s, 50s 60s, 70s.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
How many grown men were like they said not to speak
about it.
I ain't going to speak on it.
Right, how many grown men werelike they said not to speak
about it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
I ain't gonna speak on it, right, and didn't speak
on it.
And there were so many likepeople that were like there were
so many things that were likeufo sightings, ufo sightings and
I want to do like a lot more onufos.
I just I needed to like kind ofzone in on a place to start and
I thought you know what men inblack is a perfect place to
start.
So you know, yeah, why not?

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
yeah this is.
I mean because it's somethingthat people think about and they
think about if you say men inblack too, if you went to random
street and said, hey, we havemen in black, they're gonna
think about will smith, tom, lee, jones, right, maybe one person
out of five, maybe more, Idon't know, that's just an
assumption right, are gonnathink, hey, real men in black
coming to your house fucking youup?
Yeah, but that's a real thing.

(01:18:00):
Like this was a real thing.
That happened.
So are these real occurrences?
Are these real people?
Did this really happen?
That's what we didn't set outto prove or disprove.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
We just wanted to put it in your mind that maybe that
shit exists and you shouldthink about it right, like I
mean, you were talking aboutthis, so I like done like a
quick little search and it'sreally hard to find like the men
in black stuff, because, ofcourse, like they want to like
tech things, yeah.
But like bbc is reporting likeufo reports by us troops so this
is just us troops hasskyrocketed to over 500 and this

(01:18:37):
is a like.
This was reported january ofthis year, but this was their
2021 report.
So us spy agency 2021 report solike.
But I'm gonna look into thislike most recent, because it is
hard like a lot of things, likethey don't want it to come out
that fast.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
So right, but the shit if it's happening now like
you're, like I said, 80 years ofshit.
Things like disappear realquick so that it's hard to find
right and you don't think and Iknow this is bullshit and this
is probably way out there, butlike us talking about it, you
don't think?
Puts us on some kind of fuckingradar?

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
oh yeah, I'm sure I mean I've been put on lists for
books I've bought and all sortsof weird stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
I mean I've been put on lists for all kinds of weird
shit.
It ain't never been in Men inBlack, but whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
Right, it's not been like UFO, but like I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
But do I believe in some UFOs?

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
Yes, I've got some weird books, so I know I've seen
some.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
Look, you've seen government was like, oh look,
okay, so we've lied about this,we've kind of put this under
blanket, but then here's somefoot and that what they do.
They didn't.
They didn't release everything.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
No, they released enough to satisfy we don't want
them to just remember that wedon't yeah, you don't want to
see this shit, they really youwant to know what's in area 51.

Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
You remember those assholes who were going to rush
area 51 a couple years ago?
Oh my god, yeah really you'reabout to rush area 51, not your
ass.
It ain't gonna make it 30fucking yards before you're
mowed down by some guy with a 50cal who's gonna keep you from
getting in there, because youknow why you don't want to see

(01:20:14):
the shit that's in there.
They don't make a completefucking underground bunker and
this secluded place because theywant you in there nope they
want you not to be in there.
Well, you got something else,nope nothing else.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
I'm sure I'm just doing.

Speaker 1 (01:20:37):
Doing nothing, I'm just looking for myself right
now nothing that'll be fastenough to tell you well, listen
what we got to say then what wegot to tell, look I'm all about
going outside, looking at the gooutside, look at the moon right
now.
I've seen my facebook.
Yeah, the moon's glorious rightnow.
I think it's big and orange andbright and crazy looking right
now.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
I think I saw something about it being like
the last full moon of the virgo.

Speaker 1 (01:21:01):
I don't know what it means.
That just gives me.
It's used to be a dickhead.
I can be like mercury'sretrograding.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
That's why I'm being such an asshole to you something
about the moon's gonna moveinto gemini and it means like
newness and maybe that meanssomething.

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
I'm not trying to be a dickhead.
You guys that believe in that,but that's fine.
But I don't think it gives me aright to be an asshole to my
wife because the moon is in somesort of phase I don't, I don't
know a lot about it, but it'ssupposed to be a good thing well
, okay, well, good so that'swhat I got from it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
It was like a 10 minute video.
Then I was like it's march 8th.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
You should be listening to our previous
episode titled Call the Void.
Yep, because that's some creepyshit.
Because all kinds of times Iwant to drive into traffic, I
want to jump off a ledge, I wantto hit a fucking tree head on
and I don't know why I want todo it.
You know why Call the Void.
That's right, it's some shitthat gets inside of me, so go
back and listen.
Makes want to do it, so listento our newest episode, call the

(01:21:57):
void.
It's out.
This episode's not going to beout till what march 15th
something like that which isnext wednesday.
Yeah, I'm just ranting becauseyou are rambling, because if
they're listening to this.
It's already that day or laterlet me tell you why because I've
drunk an entire bottle ofskinny girl yeah, an entire can

(01:22:18):
of gingham cider and I'm halfwaythrough with your damn
raspberry smirnoff.
You hand it to me.
Don't act like you forgot.
You hand it to me I know Ididn't forget.

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
So I'm a little, you reach for it, I'm a little drunk
reach for it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:29):
She said that's not reached for it.
Reach, I reached for it yeah,you reach.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
It sounds so weird, though, right, I always say it
that way rich sounds better.

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
Yeah, in a sense not proper reached sounds weird, I
reached, for it sounds likeyou're real redneck but, rich
for it.
I wrench for it sounds.
They need to make a new.
We should make a new word.
You maybe just you handed it tome.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
I stuck my hand out to grab it.
You handed it to me.
Yeah, you either way hand outand I put something in it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
You know well, you stick your hand, I'll put
something in it hey, listen weare rambling I'm gonna tell you
a couple things okay, theme songrad.
I want to shout them out anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
I know we talked about not doing it absolutely
shout them out music atomic soulart heck, yeah, you got it
right, got it right done thetheme song for us.
They're amazing.
Check them out.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
I'm gonna shout out, my friend matt cotto at
fleabcorp fleabcorpcom.
If you are a rollerblader Idon't know how many of your
rollerbladers that listen to us,but if you are a rollerblader,
but check him out, because he isdoing fucking awesome things he
has created a super awesomedesign it's called like a flebo
buffer I don know, but it'ssaving your fucking knees and

(01:23:39):
let me tell you something.
If somebody had two kneesurgeries, three back surgeries,
a couple of shoulder surgeriesand it's all fucked up.
Save your knees.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
So check him out at flebcorpcom, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
And flebcorp is his Instagram handle, I believe as
well.
Maybe something like that, yeahsomething like that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
Yeah, you can find it .
B-c-o-r-p.
There you go.
If you can't find it, look itup, you'll find it.
Yep, uh, cory shepherd, musicatomic.
So art did the theme song asthe intro and the outro, so
check them out.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
And hey, you know what?
We didn't really mention itlast time, but I'm pretty sure
if you listened to us lastseason you noticed we've got a
really cool new.
I want to say symbol, butthat's not it, but our cover art
our logo, she.
If you would have seen whatshe's doing with her hands just
now she just done somethingcrazy with her hands right now.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
I thought she was having a seizure, but she wasn't
.
She was bringing togetherreally fast like she was trying
to create like a fuckingfireball to shoot at me, like I
didn't know what she was doing.
Yes, yes, jonathan carroll.
Uh, he designed both the circlelogo and, if you see me,
occasionally, we post that footlogo that you're all at yes, All
made by Jonathan Carroll Design.

Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
so we got to let him know we appreciate what he done
for us Absolutely, because it iskiller.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
It is.
It's a killer design.
Again, same thing with ThemeZone.
We like the last logo, we lovethis logo.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:25:01):
Everything's better and improved this year and this
season, our editing, ourequipment our logos, our merch,
our fucking subject.
Whoo, he is wild.
So check us out, listen to uswhere you listen to your podcast
.
We're on everything we're on,we're there, we're, if you have
something you want to tell us?

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
shoot us a message, email us.
What is it?
Drunken darkness at outlookcomthat's it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
drunken darkness at outlookcom is the email address?

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
absolutely you can.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
If I've not spammed your face with instagram and
facebook, then just give it timeI will right, you got a topic
you want to hear shoot us amessage.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
I'm always interested government coming for us don't
make it 3 am because you don'twant to see what you're gonna
get right.

Speaker 1 (01:25:41):
You don't want to know what's gonna happen at 3 am
if you show up at my houseright with some bullshit but
otherwise we will.
Uh, we'll be here, it don'tmatter if it's 2 am, I'm gonna
still show up the same way right, that's butt ass naked in your
face you knock on the door andhe might just get naked to show.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
It may just be noon and I may see you with no
eyebrows looking like powdershowing my door.
I'm gonna take my pants offyeah, just gonna get weird,
because that's what we do,that's what's coming for you,
right?

Speaker 1 (01:26:07):
so until next time, kick it weird kick back, maybe
just grab it, just get a fuckingdrink get a drink, kick back a
cold one.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
Drink with us, drink with us.

Speaker 1 (01:26:17):
Drink with us.
I think that's it.
Yeah, we're going to be herethis week, we're going to be
here next week, we're here allthe weeks.
Follow us on social mediaInstagram, Facebook and we'll
hey Patreon.
Let me bitch about that.
I know it's late and I knowwe're.
We set them prices up cheap $3,$5.

(01:26:37):
You're going to get exclusivecontent Q&As.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
Some behind the scenes stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
We're going to send you some stickers.
We may send you some randomshit.
I may send you a picture ofMitch Foote.
You don't know what you'll get.
You may get all kinds of weirdshit.
Patreon Look us up, find us,subscribe.
We promise you some weird andcool shit.

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
We promise you some weird and cool shit.

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
It's worth it.
And if you don't stay around tohear this, an hour and a half
into this podcast I'm going topost on Facebook or all the
social media.

Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
so you'll see it.
Anyway, yeah, I'm done, I'mdrunk and done.

Speaker 1 (01:27:08):
So until next time, yay, yay.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
Stay weird friends.

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
We'll see you next time.
Bye, bye, bye, bye.