December 18, 2024 • 67 mins
In this latest episode of Affinity Protocol (hosted by the Affinity Innovations, Inc. Team), the Team [joined by Bo of BARRACKS TALK] hit on the topics of Bitcoin going over 100K, the market having a hard correction the stabilizing, Hawk Coin from Hawk Tuah girl (Hailey Welch). Afterwards, they talk about why CEOs are scared and the arrest of Luigi Mangione.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm ready to unmute and get this thing playing.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'll mute out and see you guys. Tell me you're ready. All right. So, Chris, I'll do a countdown. I'm going to go three, two, one. All right. Don't fuck up the intro this time. So they line up. I won't. It's going to go three, two, one, and then go.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Don't talk three.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
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Speaker 5 (00:37):
The following includes conversation relating to cryptocurrency. Information provided and discussed is strictly for educational and informational purposes only. Any use of any information is done so at your own risk. DV, Radio, LLC, as well as the hosts and guests of the show take no responsibility if you wish to use any of the information in your daily life. Again, the topics discussed are strictly for informational and educational purposes only.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
I am Chris, the CEO. My name's Paul, the COO. I am Chris, a.k.a. Lil Chris, the chief technical officer of CEO Innovations. We will talk about entities, crypto in general, EFY, blockchain technology, technology, and just talk about anything, whatever the hell we feel like talking about. Get to know us at a more personal level. Gabbling nonsense. Is there cursing rules or anything? No, you say whatever the fuck you want. I think they'd be more worried if you didn't curse.
Speaker 7 (01:38):
what's up
Speaker 8 (01:41):
What's going on tonight? Welcome to another affinity protocol.
Speaker 9 (01:48):
You both were fucking going to say some shit. Everything right in the intro this time. God damn it. I said before you started, I said, so I'm going to wait until you both say you're ready. You said, yep, and you started the
Speaker 10 (02:05):
nope I originally told you I was going to type done it's recorded Paul where I told you I'm going to put done just like this in the group chat and discord when it's ready to go and then right before we started I said so I'm going to wait for both of you to tell me when you're ready I'll tell you what it's in the recording you got discord up right now it's in the recording I'll tell you what you got discord up right now
Speaker 11 (02:36):
alright we're going to play that back now we're going to play
Speaker 12 (02:41):
but anyway so obviously you can tell we got we got bo here with us tonight
Speaker 8 (02:47):
The--littlechrist is nuts!
Speaker 12 (02:50):
tonight he's uh He's not like that, he's gone. He's taking care of business.
Speaker 9 (03:02):
So tonight we got some stuff to talk about. We got Bitcoin, not just goes over 100,000, but it clears easily. The market does a hard correction that stabilizes. Then we got Hawk to it, more like talk to a judge. Hawk coin rugs, CEOs scared out of their minds and Mario character who loves Monopoly clues brought in for question and court. Is he getting out what they get out a free jail card or are we expecting someone to rule?
Speaker 11 (03:29):
that's right that's right that's what's going on in the finished
Speaker 6 (03:37):
What a funny start, man. I can't wait to play that recording back.
Speaker 12 (03:44):
It's all good in the neighborhood Right now he's looking for the record He's rewinding the tape
Speaker 11 (03:52):
anyway let's jump right to it let's get right into the subject matter I know normally we start with what's a little happening over the week unless you got something real interesting you want to talk about I don't my week was just talking of work and doing lots of I mean, where you want to do. You want to hear me just bitch for a hot second? Yeah, I do. Actually, let's hear it.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Sunday Sunday morning is swim lessons for the kid Go out to go get a haircut afterwards Go eat some breakfast at a delicious place Called the Celtic Kitchen Don't know if you've ever been there
Speaker 10 (04:29):
a good breakfast. back to you? No, but they all of the like, most of the staff they're like, it's like they're legit Irish.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
So, or Scottish or whatever. Anyway, on the way back driving on the highway and you know me I'm not riding up somebody's ass. Gotta say following distance. I'm in my truck that doesn't even have 5,000 miles on it yet in a fucking BMW. One growling which kicks up a rock takes a
Speaker 10 (04:57):
- Oh. - And I'm fucking fuming. Because there's other people in the road, sure. But like there's not trucks that normally have like the debris and crap to fall out of it. It's like just a random freak occurrence- - Yup.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Or whatever. And me and my wife have the absolute fucking worst luck when it comes to, like, taking a chip in the windshield with the rock, because, Chris, you remember when we went up for the Eclipse, how that one chipped his shoe?
Speaker 10 (05:31):
windshield turned into a big crack. Well, we got her windshield replaced. Not even two weeks later, she's driving home from our kid's doctor's appointment.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
the morning and another fucking rock come out and hit her in chapter one.
Speaker 10 (05:46):
I just got a fucking placed. so then so then this happens to me in my truck and i'm not having a good fucking time so i'm telling you like as soon as i get home i got fucking safe light booked so oh boy coming out today so turns out that that where the chip was it was near the way way bottom of the windshield like where it's still like you know black yeah and uh so sunday so sunday is when this happened monday morning i wake up to go to work you know a little bit of frost on inch crack coming up the windshield from where the fucking ship is. After you. Supposedly, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
This is yesterday. Oh, okay, okay. So I'm looking at it and I'm like, you gotta be fucking kidding me. I was like if this crack any more
Speaker 10 (06:48):
So,
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I, I can't want to bitch about him being like other people, you know, wasn't that late. I'm just mad, man. I want to be mad at somebody. So safe flight dude comes and, you know, he, he didn't call saying like, Hey, I'm on the way. He called like, as he's pulling in the driveway. So I'm like trying to get off a work call that I was doing, taking it home and run upstairs. And he's already standing in the truck. And I opened the door and like take one step outside. And he goes, Hey man, I hate to be the bear of bad news. I can't fix this. And I'm like, what are you talking about? And he's like, all right. So this black area down here where you got this original chip, Like this just fucking stupid. So now I got to fucking put a fucking, you know, claiming the insurance, $300 windshield deductible. So it's only going to cost me 300 bucks. So I can't, you know, you shouldn't have a deductible for windshield.
Speaker 11 (08:36):
everybody says but i do man your insurance is pulling one over on you bro you should get one was kinda be deductible, I think, a year.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
I don't know what else to tell you. I mean, maybe that's the thing I thought
Speaker 12 (08:57):
that auto insurance had to do that.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Most auto insurances just do it literally exactly what somebody else said. And I pulled up my policy.
Speaker 10 (09:08):
right in front of them, showed them and they just go, huh? I was like,
Speaker 2 (09:14):
don't know what else to tell you man like i'm not well maybe you just busted so many windshields they're like fucking justice dude i i well i that's the thing is i've never it my wife is the um is the one that has the bad
Speaker 10 (09:35):
I don't normally have
Speaker 2 (09:37):
So I don't know. But I'm looking right at it. Coverages, collision part seven, or sorry, comprehensive
Speaker 8 (09:52):
Damn, man.
Speaker 10 (09:56):
That sucks. So, but luckily, safe flight, they are taking care of me. Got an appointment tomorrow. Got taken in the shop because now it's fucking 2024 and all of our fucking cars are smarter than us. I mean, not that they weren't before, but fucking smarter than they were 20 years ago. So now I can't just get a windshield replaced. They have to do, like, all this calibration of, yeah, like, forward facing cameras and like all the other shit safe flight repair safe flight replace
Speaker 12 (10:27):
so one.
Speaker 9 (10:37):
Matt
Speaker 8 (10:40):
want it. You're right.
Speaker 12 (10:45):
right yeah it feel like it was a lot Oh, did you have anything exciting happen to you? Yeah, I'm alive. Alright, fair enough.
Speaker 8 (10:56):
Yeah. Tuesday. Shit, it's Tuesday.
Speaker 9 (11:05):
thought it was Monday all motherfucking day.
Speaker 11 (11:08):
- Absolutely, so I, you bring up JD Wentworth, so it ain't coming from my Bitcoin, that's for damn sure. You know, first on the list, man, we were talking, you know, uh breaking 100k finally uh i say finally but i'm actually surprised that it it went over that quickly i thought it was going to be held back a little bit until maybe like late december
Speaker 2 (11:36):
uh you know on the other side of 2025 but not only that but you but i mean we both kind of figured that that 100k was going to be a pretty significant resistance point and if you
Speaker 10 (11:53):
it the fact that like, OK, well, great. It hit hard. But like is going to immediately retract and it's
Speaker 2 (12:00):
a decent clip or something like that. Uh, but it, it didn't, it kept going. It went to like what? One Oh three and a half, almost one Oh four. Something like that. But I did see it at 103 and some change So at some point it went up to that high and and and you know Talking about topic numeric dozze and had a pretty hard correction I believe it's like there's some that have actually come back today like XRP is back up to like to 20 Stuff like that, but I mean for a hard second there It was everything else came ended coming back down about 10% or so
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Like in the 93, 94 range for a day or so, but I mean it's yeah, a lot of
Speaker 11 (12:46):
15 20% I did end up grabbing a little bit more of a couple you know put a a diversify on the on the pullback because you know i what i typically do is i don't you know when things they call it laddering down just like you can dca you could ladder up let it down whatever so i'll uh little DCA in.
Speaker 12 (13:11):
...be careful, too, because...
Speaker 8 (13:14):
- I think this was a correction, but you don't know.
Speaker 11 (13:19):
going to have another leg down right nobody really knows so you know when you when you when you're buying the dip so to speak uh typically you don't know if it's actually the bottom of the dip exactly so you know you want to take advantage right for things that you are interested in and you're like hey i want to get some more you're like hey it's on sale so i'm going to get a bit more but what you typically don't do is when you see the first first correction or the first
Speaker 12 (14:02):
you let it ride, or maybe you buy it as it's going out as it gets through certain resistance points things like that. There's a lot of different strategies out there researching, but nonetheless, it did, it went above one of my
Speaker 11 (14:17):
as intended so nothing
Speaker 12 (14:22):
have to be fine with surrogacy. about that in my opinion.
Speaker 10 (14:26):
Well here, well here's, I mean, Not for nothing, I'm not trying to say. That I was right, because obviously anyone can say that they made a prediction that was, you know, similar or close to, right.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
we talked about where we said you know hey whenever bitcoin finally does run you know i talked a little bit more about how we might hopefully see some actual like price stability after it gets done with its run and it's obviously way too early to tell you know it's still sitting in the high 90s right now and whatnot but i mean for the most part if it retracted from being at at 103 and change and it only came down to 93 94 and change before it kind of came back up to
Speaker 2 (15:18):
They're gonna start putting it in online stores,
Speaker 1 (15:20):
which is kind of resource them all coin surging. And that kind of, you know, gets the investor fear of what you're talking about, Chris, where it has that little dip because people are taking profits and moving on elsewhere so that you have all these ETFs that are now eaten up some of that capital. And it really kind of stabilizes the price. I mean, I would be shocked unless there's anything crazy that happens, you know,
Speaker 12 (15:47):
next couple of months, I'd be shocked if Bitcoin goes back down below even 85 grand again, like ever. Yeah. And there's really three things that kind of happen there. There's one is the true profit takers, right? People that like say, all right, it broke a hundred thousand, which by the way, let me start with this, by the way, breaking a hundred thousand aside from being a huge milestone is actually a great thing to happen right now, because if this bull market is to of milestone you know stuck in people's brains but um you know when when things like that happen and it and it starts to pull back what there's three things that typically happen you've got the there'd be an opportunity to really call back on a bullshit can't wait, then again, you gotta sew up a "Money over Money" process, literally. Like what, how could you do this?
Speaker 11 (17:04):
maybe keep it aside, tax purposes, Christmas presents, whatever the hell they're doing with it. Then you have the people that see this dip, like Paul was just saying, and get nervous. And they're like, oh shit, we hit the top of something. It's all going to come crashing down. Let me get everything I have out of the market. Let me get, you know, and they stop pulling it back. And a lot of times it ends up biting you there because by the time you notice the speed of most people
Speaker 8 (17:44):
driver to make the market like crash, whatever the pullback was, you already have already gotten. You've survived. It's already there. You've already realized that loss. So now you're actually taking that loss and then the market will go back
Speaker 1 (18:01):
That seems to be what is at least happening for today. And it kind of did that in a microtransaction way. It kind of did that, right? Because it hit its all-time high at that 103, 104 change, wherever exactly it was. It did pull back to under 100k a couple of times. I remember getting up in the morning and seeing it was at 102 or whatever. And then during the day, I'd look at it and be like at 99. But at times, it went back up to mid-102, high-102,
Speaker 10 (19:13):
all back after people pulled
Speaker 11 (19:15):
back into Bitcoin and continue the cycle. And, and, you know, the you have to have a catalyst, I think, in order for it to drop maybe upper 80s, maybe, but any
Speaker 12 (19:29):
I think you'd have to have some kind of catalyst that drives it well.
Speaker 11 (19:32):
Another global conflict breaks out, some kind of banking crisis, something that'd have to be some kind of catalyst, I think, that would... FTX 2.0? Yeah, something like that. Otherwise,
Speaker 12 (19:49):
confident that it should stay near this floor a little
Speaker 11 (19:53):
when your the third thing that drives us to is the, uh, uh, traders, right? People that are doing, you know margin trading and leverage trading because they're getting liquidated, right? Or they're cashing out so they don't get liquidated, and what that means is if somebody is saying, OK, I believe Bitcoin is going to go up to leveraging, you know, however much
Speaker 12 (20:21):
10 X, 20 X, 100 X, and then they're using margin, which is borrowing money from an exchange so I can keep the gains off after I make my gains and close my position? Well, if that position goes the other way and bitcoin starts falling, they're losing money equivalent to
Speaker 11 (20:45):
So if they leverage 10x, they are losing 10x, whatever the original deposit was.
Speaker 12 (20:51):
So 1%, they're losing 10%. So they need to close out positions to save face or they get liquidated. So a great deal of that, when this starts diving pretty hard and you see that
Speaker 11 (21:08):
and directions.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
so they don't get liquidated. Yeah, I kind of I mean, I get it.
Speaker 10 (21:20):
profitable, but I hate the the basically the side hustle when it comes to like that, that side of investments, like just either go with the product or not quit doing this like side bet shit.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
stream animals and shit like that. We're like, oh, let's do some side bets. So we're instigators too. But I mean, damn. Yeah.
Speaker 12 (21:43):
those are people that are trying to play crypto. like you play the stock market. 'Cause that's very, very common. in the stock market is leveraging You know, and shit like that. those are those
Speaker 7 (22:02):
or
Speaker 6 (22:06):
you so you know that's that
Speaker 1 (22:11):
but still it was it was fun it was fun seeing it happen it was fun seeing it not just have to be like where you take a screenshot
Speaker 10 (22:22):
It being 100 k but that it went above, it went a little bit above and it stayed up there for a little bit.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Like you said, Chris, there's a lot of people waiting for something like that to happen. Not just, I mean, it's going to sound weird to say, but not just to have it happen, but because it did happen. You had so many people waiting after the halving that the price didn't skyrocket after the halving. And we kind of talked about that. We said there's going to be a delay in price going up after halving. And I think that we might have gotten a little bit of a perfect storm coming together to...
Speaker 2 (22:59):
the conditions just right to have a decent run up and go up there. And it's just nice to see that it's staying in that area. Yeah. Yeah. And it was nice to see people say, I'm not, you know, like not a lot of people say, well, I'm just 100 K, I'm done with it. You know, like that was my concern and at this time I
Speaker 12 (23:16):
really didn't own any Doge but remember when Elan was really Saturday Night Live and everything and everybody thought it was going to hit a dollar when he went on Saturday Night Live and I think it got up to about 70 something cents My concern with it, if I was a doge holder at that time, was I would've sold that like 98 cents. Because everybody was just talking about, "It's going to hit a dollar.
Speaker 8 (23:42):
In my mind, there was a lot of people that were looking to sell. As soon as it hits a dollar, everybody's mouse hovering on that cell. Yeah. Everybody was like, when it hits a dollar, I'm done. I made my money. I'm gone. So it was nice to see that with everybody talking about 100%.
Speaker 11 (24:00):
$100K, yes, there was profit taken, but it's still sitting at 96, right now.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
that is great to see. So speaking of Doge, you remember someone with, um, I know you're talking about, do you, do you remember what, do you remember what he said at, when we were at that restaurant about doge?
Speaker 10 (24:23):
And so, so me and Chris used to work with someone and for the same company, but they were, they were overseas came back for a little all met up, went to, you know, go drink and have some dinner at a bar. And we were talking, cause this guy like crypto as well. And he even said, you know, Oh, I, I, I got into doge really early. We were like, Oh, well, how early? And this is around the time that, you know, people were talking about doge hitting a dollar. And he,
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I got an early enough to where if it hits a dollar, me and the next, like four generations
Speaker 10 (24:57):
of my family will be set for life.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
And we're like, Oh God, like that, you went that hard into it. And he goes, Oh yeah. And we didn't ask.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
knowing what we know. I have a feeling Chris that got fucking held on and he didn't sell a single one. Yeah, probably not. Which that I mean, you can always, you know, argue hindsight 2020, all that kind of stuff. But I don't, I don't think that he was necessarily hoping for it to to hit a dollar. But he might, you know, he might be thinking it's a you know, it's a long term. Like, I think she did the same thing where, like, you know, it had it's like a couple of different iterations where it just fucking skyrocketed
Speaker 2 (25:40):
insurgents or i don't know i hope you know i think in the back of my mind i hope that guy took profits i hope he did yeah i mean even right now it's sitting at 30 37 38 cents it hit like 50 something was it 50 something it hit like 70 something i thought no i'm talking about like recently recently oh It looks like about $0.47. So, I mean, that's halfway. So, whatever money he would have made out of dollars is considerable. He's got to have taken profits in it at some point. it's the way and he said it like so nonchalantly to like oh yeah if it hits a dollar like me and the next four generations of my family will God damn, like this dude's thought about it. Like he's literally counted generations to see like how much is get
Speaker 12 (26:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (26:33):
Good shit. You know where he's not or anybody's not going to get no generational money from?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
I'm going to say it was whatever a couple
Speaker 10 (26:47):
It's a slotty coin. Yeah, I mean, I think that...
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Oh, hold on. My life is just going to texture back. I thought first and foremost about this Chris and I Paul can answer it too when he comes back but is it on her or is it on her team? All right well okay so we got first we got to talk a little bit about kind of what happened there before we were like really make that determination but I'd like to start out by saying if anybody's listening to this and doesn't know what happened you're living in a fucking
Speaker 9 (27:20):
Go read some. Dude, I even.
Speaker 12 (27:23):
like that's how much I seen it. Both of my brothers send me news articles on this shit, three of my best friends.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
So Or God, well, go ahead
Speaker 10 (27:35):
So I'd like to point out that the money that got got, that is not generational wealth by any stretch of the imagination. But basically, you know, she brings devs on, she wants to launch a token, whatever. Someone convinces her, hey, you should launch a token. It'd be a great idea, that kind of stuff. What looks like happened is a huge majority of the supply was basically given to like the team behind this token,
Speaker 1 (28:14):
The team was never going to sell. That was a fucking lie they sold. a profit from every single person that went in on that initial run up after it launched. And that's basically long story short of what happened.
Speaker 10 (28:30):
not we think she did it or if it was the team it's pretty damning when you you start a space right like you start an x space because you want to discuss it or you want to you know tell people and be like we don't know what happened or whatever which they did they blatantly lied talking about how it was not them selling tokens because good old coffee zilla you know fucking detective extraordinaire of crypto requested to speak and i actually got to see um someone Right? Just interrupts him and goes, all right, well, I'm going to bed. Good night, y'all. And just leaves.
Speaker 11 (29:24):
And hasn't been seen.
Speaker 8 (29:26):
Two weeks. Yeah.
Speaker 12 (29:30):
I mean, I can't say I blame her lawyers probably said stay off the social media, but still.
Speaker 9 (29:37):
It's in her name. We get that. We know that. But is she the one truly pulling the strings? That's my question. I don't believe so. I don't believe so. This is. Sorry. The team quote unquote. Yeah. That wanted her to do this old at her getting heartstrings. You know what I mean? Because she's all about helping people on the. to the totem pole, the homeless, the ones that can't get by, Because their luck is that fucking terrible. Right? Yeah. I have a feeling they pulled at that. Obviously, and they've done what assholes do
Speaker 12 (30:23):
Your assholes. Yeah, I, I, I agree with that. I, I agree with that. At least for the most part. Right. So she definitely didn't develop the damn thing. She probably didn't even like seek anybody out. They sought her out is my opinion. Yeah. There's a ton of celebrity coins that have launched tons of them over the last four months, five months or so. Um, and even beyond that, like there was a bulk of them that was just, every couple of days. - That's what happens in the bull market. - Before you finish Chris, I want to make it clear, I don't think this was a Logan Paul move on her behalf. - Oh, I don't think so either. - Yeah. - I don't think so either. Obviously she's involved. consequences for being involved. You know, hey, you gotta you gotta consequences, you got to do your own homework, where we tell people, do your own Do your diligence before you get involved in anything. When it comes to crypto, especially because of shit like this. So all these damn celebrity tokens are launching one after another. They're looking, always looking for
Speaker 11 (31:31):
Right? It's because the developers know they're going to make tons of money. There's a couple of and I won't name them on here, but there's a couple of promoters that promote their products to
Speaker 12 (31:44):
because they're getting shit on the back end. Either they get the contract address early so they can snipe it or get an early allocation getting it real cheap. Not necessarily
Speaker 11 (31:55):
but very shady, right? Like you're not telling people that you're getting in early, that you're getting, you know, whatever. So, and then they dump on everybody. So I think what really happened here was exactly that. She got approached by a group of developers, because I was also told,
Speaker 12 (32:14):
this but I was told that these individuals are also linked to other rug pulls and other celebrity launches and shit like that so they Stern said, hey. you 120 grand up front which supposedly she admitted they did her lawyer even admitted they gave her 120 well they committed to 120 grand uh i'm not sure if she ever got it uh they got 50 percent or something like that yeah so something like that 120 grand whether she got it or not 120 grand was going to her up front and then she was getting an allocation of the tokens i believe it was somewhere around five percent maybe ten percent and it was really quick yeah really quick
Speaker 5 (33:11):
out of her 50%, she would have to pay her non crypto team, too. So in reality, she
Speaker 9 (33:17):
only hold 3.5 percent of the tokens withdrawn if that
Speaker 12 (33:22):
That's just part of the story. have to keep five. And then she's going to have to give something to her team, that kind of thing. Yeah. And then they were going to be also locked up for three years. And then she was supposed to get more after the launch, right? But obviously, that wasn't going to right? Because they just took the money and bounced. So, I think that's really what happened. They approached her. They seen it as an opportunity for them to make money. I know they reported that the shit was sniped. If it was sniped, and I put air quotes around that, it was probably by the dev team. I didn't look at the blockchain, so I don't know. Either they were allocated by, no kidding, the deployer gave them an allocation of tokens, or they obviously had the contract address, so they just transaction to get those tokens immediately beat everybody to the punch get the first allocation of tokens then tell everybody about it and i think this thing skyrocketed to like 500 million market cap before tanking like 95 percent within like minutes yeah 500 million market cap before rapidly thumming thumbling as heavy selling pressure from early investors over one demand from newcomers the market cap is now hovering around 20 million and trading volume is less than a half a million
Speaker 5 (34:53):
this terminology means. Would you say this is somewhat equivalent on the stock market as insider
Speaker 12 (35:01):
1000%.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I just want to make that, I just want to make that point.
Speaker 9 (35:08):
I know there's some of the listeners that listen to Affinity Protocol. They're interested, but again, they don't know how to metaphorically understand it.
Speaker 11 (35:18):
- 1000%, and it's obviously a worse outcome because of the way crypto works.
Speaker 12 (35:27):
how that transpired, yeah, it's basically the same thing because inside of trading in the stock market is, let's say I own a company and you're part of the company or you work for the company and we're about to have big news come out big news. Like we're getting acquired by Google or some shit and for billions of dollars and our company is only worth five million at the time. So that is going to make every stockholder rich. But we don't tell anybody.
Speaker 8 (35:57):
out to the, you know, it opens up your TD Ameritrade account or It goes and buys a bunch of this like a ton
Speaker 12 (36:05):
about the stock, and then we announce the news. That's insider trading. It is no different when you're dealing with launching a token,
Speaker 11 (36:16):
You don't tell anybody publicly, that you're gonna promote it and you're a high profile person and you know the masters are gonna come flock to it and everybody else,
Speaker 9 (36:26):
that's part of it, buys into it, and then you launch it. - One of the bigger ones that I could equate something like this to would be Pork Stock back when that happened, the insider trading on it. Do you remember that or reading about it? - I don't really remember that. - There was a lot of had trading places I think with Eddie Murphy and Dan Ackroyd. I think they even I think they even talked about the pork stock at some time and he buys all this fucking pork stock and it's completely useless. It's worth absolute shit, and he doesn't know that people in I've already flipped him over. So he gets fired. Oh yeah. it was being pork though. Okay. Uh, it, I think it was pork. I want to say it was, I remember pork being mentioned in the movie, but there was a lot of, a lot of movies that are centred around stock market Dennis Cornley
Speaker 2 (37:37):
- Arnie Madoff? - That asshole.
Speaker 12 (37:41):
- Yeah, he was doing less insider trading, the reason why, he was doing the Ponzi where you take somebody else's money to pay somebody else promising
Speaker 9 (37:50):
and you're just giving somebody else somebody else's money exactly but yeah yeah i just wanted to make sure those that don't understand what we were talking about
Speaker 12 (38:00):
could identify what it was. Yeah. And the trouble is because and we don't want it to you that doesn't increases. you that doesn't increases. I think always infected me - A security, you hear that Gary, it's not a security. It doesn't really,
Speaker 11 (38:16):
to those same rules of insider trading because it's not a security. - Yeah. - But, the theory behind it is the same. It's much more devastating
Speaker 9 (38:27):
devastating the way that shit happens. I mean, it's brutal. - Yeah. - Brutal. - And I think the, I think a key takeaway from this to Celebrity or some shit. Don't just go all in on something. Don't fucking do that. Especially when you know damn well that Celebrity knows his dick off.
Speaker 8 (38:45):
- Exactly. - Well, I mean, I'm not trying to diss the girl, but what is, I can't remember her real name, So I'm going to call a Hot Tula Girl again- - Hayley Welch. - Hayley Welch. - Hayley Welch. What does Hayley Welch know about
Speaker 9 (39:00):
is the first thing i've even heard her speak about crypto and when as soon as i seen hot coin i was like what the fuck is hot coin and i seen it and i was like no she didn't no she fucking didn't And I'm— I'm not saying she's all to blame. Obviously, some blame does lay on her, but I feel like somebody pulled at her heartstrings is like, Hey,
Speaker 5 (39:25):
with all this.
Speaker 12 (39:27):
And now she's in a fucking hole. So I know why people bought it, you know, because it was like,
Speaker 11 (39:35):
What did you think was going to happen if you bought a coin called Hog? Most people know she doesn't know. No, she didn't develop it. But I don't care what they're looking for. Do you remember when back in 2020, all people were trying to do is create tokens that were worth
Speaker 12 (39:54):
that Elon Musk would potentially put in one of his tweets. So that way, when he put out a tweet, if that then link that shit to their thing and say see Elon supports our token and it would go nuts they were using it in those stupid ass ads too those you know they're Yeah. You bet my ass I hate, hate pop culture. I hate something likev devils creator. I hate talking about ads is what I'm talking about. Right? Like yeah. It just got played wrong.
Speaker 11 (40:32):
and it sucks, but it happens. If you're going to play in that You're going to get dirty.
Speaker 8 (40:42):
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Speaker 12 (40:46):
That's how I do.
Speaker 10 (40:52):
so we're gonna kill that topic
Speaker 9 (41:01):
Why are CEOs so scared right now? Well, again,
Speaker 2 (41:08):
because you're living under a rock. The CEO of United Health got marked right in the streets of New York. Giant Rock, dude. Now, there's...
Speaker 10 (41:20):
I've got a theory behind this, too, but keep going. There's a lot of stuff that we could talk about here, but the general gist of it is that there's a lot of
Speaker 1 (41:31):
funny things that have come out of this. I'm not going to give an opinion on how I feel about a lot of things other than the humor behind it. Maybe that's people's coping mechanisms, you know, stuff like that.
Speaker 10 (41:46):
Um, you know, there's been lots of jokes about like CEOs making particular decisions, especially around the same time as this happened. Mm.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
really funny, you know, the Ben Affleck meme of him, like, holding a cigarette.
Speaker 10 (42:00):
hell uh if anyone didn't know come 2025 guess who's gonna be back at mcdonald's the snack rap i thought she's gonna say donald trump well i mean that's you know how do you looks work too but um but they uh they joke because like that announcement was right around the time of uh the murder of the ceo of united health and they're like oh yeah he he's seen the news
Speaker 1 (42:38):
headshot that, you know, is used to advertise for acting and stuff like that. And it says when the McDonald's CEO, uh, thinks he's safe from bringing back the snack wrap, and then it shows the stressed out one with the cigarette. And it says when he finds out to McDonald's employees and one of the ratted out the guy. Yeah. So it's, uh, there's, there's a lot of funny stuff coming from here, but, um, The, the, a lot of stuff that's happening. seeing is people that are, you know, in executive level positions are removing what their position is on their LinkedIn profile, or removing some of their social profiles completely. They're
Speaker 10 (43:14):
They're a little bit hard to recognize who they are as a person. Yeah. So something like this has kind of rattled, uh, the community of executives of large companies, the first time this has happened, I got to go edit our web
Speaker 9 (43:27):
Hey, hey, we need to we need to get a fucking group on JD Vance too because they might mistake him for Paul That's right. Yeah, leave me the fuck alone I'm telling you right now I'm strapped so don't even try it So a friend of mine and myself have been talking about this because one of his a mutual friend, but they talk to him more has been talking about, oh, they're so glad this happened and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know the whole three quarters of America is happy bullshit. And our theory is that they're rooting for him because he's the muscular, attractive Italian dude, right? He's the guy that looks like he's not the guy, I should say, that crawled out of the swamp and looks homeless and shit like that. Yeah, he doesn't look like the Donald Trump attempted sniper looking dude, yeah. Ted Bundy was a mass fucking killer who's a piece of shit. And they think it's fictional. So you have to be good looking. Right. And that's our thing. We have that theory because the ones that look like pieces of shit nobody cares about. But the ones who look like they fucking model for Calvin Klein. Oh, my God. I'm so glad he done that. Just make babies with me. Like, really?
Speaker 10 (45:08):
And hang on to these jerks Yellowed their hoodies At the cute amount of life That they need Above their cats And boom Baby Da bought meim
Speaker 9 (45:34):
back in the day, modeling for him, whichever one it was. That's who he looks like. And he's probably actually a piece of shit who can't get a girlfriend and, and, and, and keeper. You know what I mean? Like he can probably get a lot of girlfriends.
Speaker 12 (45:48):
*洬他是 en religions* age. I need them. Right? So what I can do is I'm going to plug someone else for,
Speaker 11 (45:57):
anything like this you're gonna have theories i'm not gonna call them conspiracy theories because a lot of conspiracy theories have come true oh no not right so i'm just gonna call it a theory okay because i have no idea if it's true or not but people are saying that he was framed because of of his background and like a lot of it doesn't really seem to be telling evidence that was found on him at six in the morning at a mcdonald's yeah yeah like he just happens to
Speaker 12 (46:33):
the fine details of this story, I know of the story because I don't live under a rock. I know what happened and I see the images of the person and some of the details, but I haven't really like dug into it, but I did see that because again, I'm on social media a lot, so I see this shit and there are theories that this kid was framed because he went to a private school where his parents Okay! - And like this is exactly just ohne there was no defence, there was absolutely no defence. There was no defence. There was no defense. All the defensive operations
Speaker 9 (47:14):
Look at all the other mass murderers and just murderers in history. They all had great jobs. They were all... epitome of a perfect citizen in their neighborhood. And they got a big head, because I'm never going to get caught, right? They got that mentality. If he was framed, he was framed. If he was a dumb It's that fucking easy. Like, I mean, if he was framed, I'm sorry, dude. You deserve an outstanding fucking defense lawyer. If you're a piece of shit criminal, you deserve to be put in jail and whatever consequences happen. That's what happens.
Speaker 10 (47:53):
Well I'd just like to remind everyone as well that we we follow the moral which is that you are innocent until you are proven guilty, not the opposite of it.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
to automatically assume guilt and think that
Speaker 10 (48:07):
proven, it is the exact opposite. I just want to throw that out there because a lot of people like to jump to conclusions. What the mother fucker guilty.
Speaker 9 (48:17):
from half 2, I'm somebody's bitch. Fucking Tommy Chong's bitch. Oh, he's going to be somebody's bitch. He pretty. Yeah. He's going to be Harlem Williams. I'm somebody's bitch. I'm thinking that's a good thing. Oh, shit.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
that went on with that there's you know the people commenting like oh my god look at this john wick and like i was it's funny because i was just cussing it with my wife and i was like that is not john wick at all and she's like she's like what do you mean i was like he has a gun that jams after the first round is shot like what what really really good popular like assassin hitman is gonna have a gun that jams after shot number one like oh i haven't cleaned my pistol
Speaker 10 (49:15):
and re-engaged, like, okay, um, it, it's really easy to do that with a pistol. It's called tap rec bang. is moderately anyone that is moderately proficient with firearms knows that especially for pistols a little bit one like one extra step when it comes to a rifle but uh or at least a semi-auto rifle but um it's a pretty
Speaker 1 (49:35):
and continue on with your day. But, you know, we talk about, you know, Mario character who loves Monopoly clues. I guess the guy they picked up, his name is Luigi. So I'm upset personally that they couldn't find a lawyer named Mario to defend him. But. He he left his backpack that he had on him, like somewhere in Central Park. It was like full of Monopoly clues. You know, all the crazies are coming out and saying that, you know, it was a McDonald's employee that, you know, called the authorities on him. And, you know, now that he had the monopoly cash in his backpack, like what if this is just McDonald's way of announcing the new monopoly game or the restaurant? Like there's all sorts of crazy commentary that is going along with it. And it is absolutely insane. Two is to have a get-out-of-jail-free card, which he's not going to have that, and the third way is to roll doubles. He said, I bet you this guy has a fucking cosmic twin on the outside who's going to do something else like a copycat crime on that that it's not the guy that they have in custody? Oh shit. Or maybe. That's just fucking crazy.
Speaker 11 (51:29):
had proof
Speaker 1 (51:33):
It was already proven that the boardwalk piece was out to family members of someone an executive at McDonald's. It does not exist. I mean it could be. It could be. Yeah that's crazy when you told me that because I didn't realize he actually had Monopoly money on him. No he didn't have it on him. He had it in the backpack that he - Yeah, the back of his leg. - When they arrested him or at least took him into custody in Pennsylvania, he supposedly had 8,000 US dollars and 2,000 in a foreign currency. But then when he was when he was in court he tried to argue that the money, he did not have the money on him.
Speaker 10 (52:20):
He didn't even say, like, it's mine or anything. He said he's outright fucking denying the Monopoly money is. No, no, no. The actual cash. Oh, the actual cash. Yeah. So basically, Monopoly money. But didn't he have his passport on him, too? He had. So he supposedly had a couple of different IDs, some of them being fake. One of them, the idea that he gave authorities at McDonald's was supposedly the same ID he used to check into a hostel in New York when he went up there,
Speaker 1 (52:57):
that was a similar type of gun, plus a silencer on like all of this, either on his person or Every single piece of evidence that would incriminate him to have being part of that crime in addition to the casing for the bullet in his pocket, right? In addition to funds that would have allowed him to flee the country, hence them denying bond. Or bail. So there's there's a lot of weird stuff going on with how he was taking. customers talking about how they got into custody they're you know talking about custody they're you know talking about custody they're you know talking about how it's you know 3d printed gun or at how it's you know 3d printed gun or at how it's you know 3d printed gun or at least 3d printed lower like least 3d printed lower like least 3d printed lower like bro if i have a 3d printed gun right and bro if i have a 3d printed gun right and bro if i have a 3d printed gun right and i use it to commit a crime i use it to commit a crime i use it to commit a crime especially where i have fired a shot The one thing to really tie a weapon or physical evidence to a person that did it, they can want to recreate that ballistics. definitively that it's a match.
Speaker 9 (53:55):
the fucking 3d printed gun is destroying it. Like that's number one. I think a lot of people's. Theories around this whole shooting though, is because I think he was, United-Health or something CEO? Yup. Yeah. United Healthcare. So a lot of people are saying, oh, you get what you deserve type of shit. And I'm like, eh, did he deserve it though?
Speaker 10 (54:24):
unless you were a child predator or some shit like that in my mind anyway some people disagree with me but there's very few instances where I think somebody deserved it right like yeah and this is not one of them they're also saying it was premeditated right assuming so yeah I would assume so I mean yeah the guy scoped out the hotel for a little bit waiting for him to walk out yeah that's what I was gonna say I think
Speaker 1 (55:20):
They'd be able to get ballistics from that and attempt to match it to the ballistics from the crime. The second piece is they had talked about how they believed that they got a potential DNA evidence from a Starbucks cup that he had thrown away while he was making his way to where he waited or while he was at where he waited to commit the crime. So those are two very, very solid and damning pieces of physical evidence. If both of those Let me start with the State of New York, does not have a case. Doesn't matter if he has a manifesto. It doesn't matter if he had weapons. matter if he even says i'm a little crazy i might have done it they don't have any physical him to the crime if they do not have those two things. Yeah. Yeah, isn't it true that you cannot convict somebody of murder unless you have Necessarily. It's normally, like, a smoking gun thing, right?
Speaker 9 (56:25):
say, say I go out and shoot somebody and I have the gun completely melted down. That doesn't mean I'm never going to get convicted because the murder weapon doesn't exist anymore. Okay. There is a case. I've actually watched this as fucking sickening. Um, this man was doing things to his daughter. They lived at this other guy's house. ended up killing the guy because he was looking at dude's daughter. He burned his body. They weren't for sure if he shot and beat him to death, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. they didn't know how to charge him, but they charged him with murder anyway.
Speaker 5 (57:11):
And he won't come out until like 2099 or some bullshit. But even without evidence of how he killed him, he
Speaker 2 (57:20):
They know he killed him because he admitted it. But he never said how he killed him. Yeah. And that's, what's wild about the whole court system too, is you have to get the charges, right. Or you can potentially let somebody go that actually did murder him, but because you called it murder one and it turns out it was murder to a manslaughter. Yeah. They get off. Cause you charged him with murder. And even then sometimes it doesn't work. Cause look at the guy from the whole subway incident that has been in the news recently as well.
Speaker 1 (57:58):
I thought they were very good at this, but they didn't, you know, they couldn't come to a decision. So they tried to dismiss that charge and put in a lesser charge. And it's still the jury still couldn't do it. So they tried to dismiss that one and put in an even lesser charge that was like
Speaker 10 (58:13):
for involuntary manslaughter, which is why he was acquitted. Yeah, Daniel Penny, what a shit. Not guilty of criminally negligent homicide. Yeah, that's what it was, not involuntary manslaughter. Say thank you. Well, and then he pleaded not guilty to charges
Speaker 9 (58:28):
of second-degree manslaughter and criminally negligent homicides. So they had them both on there. Yeah, well, and those are the ones they end up dismissing to try to get him convicted of the lesser charge. But I mean, if you watch the video. didn't deliberately kill anybody, you're in the moment. And yeah, it's one of those things you do a choke hold to somebody and you're in the moment, you're not paying attention to if they're alive or not. You just know that once their hands go down, all you do is let go. That's all, you know? Right. Yeah. He said when he was choking him, he was paying attention to his struggling and his struggling became less he would relieve more pressure as he struggled less and that's exactly how we're taught in the military and this dude's obviously military but he was a marine And that's exactly how you're taught. At least we were all know about you. Chair for his guys. But, um, when we were teaching shit, man, if you're in the Air Force and they teach you how to do a chokehold, something's wrong. When we done hand to hand combat, you're doing in the Air Force is like what that, uh, self-asphyxiation erotica stuff. I'm not going to tell you what kind of choke is easy in the Air Force. That's actually what they teach you. Um, the exact same thing as they're struggling gets less, you start to relieve pressure, because you want to have control as much as possible until they're done. Not dead, but done. They're not fighting anymore. Had had they been standing up, he probably would have done the choke hold and grabbed one of his arms and got control of his thumb behind his back. For those that don't know, you grab somebody's thumb behind their back, "F*** you, say." Oh yeah, yeah. "Trust me." "They ain't doin' sh*t else." That's just a couple of the things probably that he would had been trained. But yeah, there there was no doubt that was not intentional murder by any means. And I think the guy was even on drugs that he cold, right. Or am I wrong? I didn't see a toxicology on them. I want to say, I seen something about that early on, because I think Sergeant Ward dog brought this up and we were like, oh, good for the Marine. He, he tackled the situation. And then we heard the end of the article and we were like, oh, fuck the justice system. Right. Um, but I think they did say something. Smuggs, don't hold me to that. It could have been another fucking-- - Yeah, the only thing I've seen
Speaker 12 (01:00:57):
the gentleman who did it said it appeared that he was on drugs. I haven't seen a toxicology, though. I didn't read that much into it. Oh, I mean, even in the video, you--
Speaker 9 (01:01:10):
we would have been like, "yeah, dude was fucking high on something" Yeah, yeah. but anyway, we better not go down that route.
Speaker 10 (01:01:18):
It is not 30. Right. We didn't we didn't see that in Vegas when we went to DEF CON at all. No, not in Vegas.
Speaker 12 (01:01:25):
Yup. No centers out there. I couldn't hold it back. So pure. We're speaking of speaking of this, this is going to be, you know, if, for me, but if you haven't.
Speaker 9 (01:01:38):
you've got to go, it's a good time. - Well, maybe when I get that and then we can all... cruise. That's what we'll all do. and TV, radio, and work. go to fucking Vegas, we'll do it all." I ain't saying nothing. You know what I'm saying? I just you know, I got my ways. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 6 (01:02:11):
The 600 DMs. Dude. 600. That's all.
Speaker 9 (01:02:18):
- That's right. They delete after 30 days. - A day. - Man. And shit. Them bitches. The way I want it. If I get it the way I want it, it's going to be like... Damn. That's not even including accessibility that the VA will do for 100% of the time. grant and I gotta pick up the rest. I'm like, are you fucking shitting me?iner. Just functional token.
Speaker 8 (01:02:57):
Oh shit, that shit's already on Pump.fun. You want to
Speaker 10 (01:03:04):
it acts just functionally, it's going to be coded into the contract that they had a random time Tick rate, and as soon as it hits
Speaker 9 (01:03:12):
matches the tick rate, it's going to just fucking sell everything. Shit, man. Oh, they wanted us to do a damn DV date nap. Did I ever tell you all that? Like when we had the big page, the 160 million follower reach page, they were like six, Oh, Google, you guys need to. so we can find people of our own kind, right? And we were like, do you understand the insurance and the legalities? We would have to jump through to make a dating app for you dumb asses.
Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
- Because this isn't back when
Speaker 9 (01:03:52):
well this is when our big shirt was uh uh dysfunctional uh while medicated or whatever it was i can't remember exactly what it was it was our while medicated t-shirt and it got big and then around that time they're like oh this would be great for for an advert for the dating And we're like, no, absolutely fucking not. and in the harmony you're not turning into what was the one where all it was supposed to be it but all the guys got their shit leaked. we were making jokes about that all the time. Like we're not Ashley Madison. We're not eHarmony. We're not plenty of fish. Y'all dysfunctional fuckers enough. Y'all go out here and do it yourselves. Yeah, it doesn't sound like a good idea.
Speaker 8 (01:04:39):
I jump in so it is a little after a little after
Speaker 12 (01:04:45):
You got anything else you want me to
Speaker 11 (01:04:47):
We close out for tonight.
Speaker 9 (01:04:49):
a barracks talk Saturday, 288 P.M. Eastern. We may or may not be doing a New Year's Eve show. If we don't, we'll run a little late on the either the 28th or the 4th, probably the 28th, though.
Speaker 12 (01:05:04):
Blew This Up, A Paul, what's up, man?
Speaker 11 (01:05:14):
episode. It was. One time one time as always with these dumbasses. I appreciate it. Yes. Yes. Thank you to Bo for joining us last minute and helping us add some commentary to it. I will say last couple weeks with Affinity Friday, Sundays we'll just call it Twitter X Spaces we've been a little discombobulated right with the holiday. We had Thanksgiving that weekend and then that kind of stuff. night so
Speaker 12 (01:06:42):
- Good to go.
Speaker 11 (01:06:45):
on our socials to let you guys know when and where.
Speaker 8 (01:06:51):
but on that note that's going to do it for us
Speaker 12 (01:06:55):
We, on Affinity protocol. Thanks again.
Speaker 11 (01:06:59):
For listening in. That's going to do it for us, but you want to sign us out? Yeah, we out. All right, we out. I thought he was going to hook us up with it. - I said, "Bow." - Oh
Speaker 9 (01:07:26):
Affinity and Affinity Protocol.
I'm ready to unmute and get this thing playing.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'll mute out and see you guys. Tell me you're ready. All right. So, Chris, I'll do a countdown. I'm going to go three, two, one. All right. Don't fuck up the intro this time. So they line up. I won't. It's going to go three, two, one, and then go.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Don't talk three.
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Speaker 6 (01:07):
I am Chris, the CEO. My name's Paul, the COO. I am Chris, a.k.a. Lil Chris, the chief technical officer of CEO Innovations. We will talk about entities, crypto in general, EFY, blockchain technology, technology, and just talk about anything, whatever the hell we feel like talking about. Get to know us at a more personal level. Gabbling nonsense. Is there cursing rules or anything? No, you say whatever the fuck you want. I think they'd be more worried if you didn't curse.
Speaker 7 (01:38):
what's up
Speaker 8 (01:41):
What's going on tonight? Welcome to another affinity protocol.
Speaker 9 (01:48):
You both were fucking going to say some shit. Everything right in the intro this time. God damn it. I said before you started, I said, so I'm going to wait until you both say you're ready. You said, yep, and you started the
Speaker 10 (02:05):
nope I originally told you I was going to type done it's recorded Paul where I told you I'm going to put done just like this in the group chat and discord when it's ready to go and then right before we started I said so I'm going to wait for both of you to tell me when you're ready I'll tell you what it's in the recording you got discord up right now it's in the recording I'll tell you what you got discord up right now
Speaker 11 (02:36):
alright we're going to play that back now we're going to play
Speaker 12 (02:41):
but anyway so obviously you can tell we got we got bo here with us tonight
Speaker 8 (02:47):
The--littlechrist is nuts!
Speaker 12 (02:50):
tonight he's uh He's not like that, he's gone. He's taking care of business.
Speaker 9 (03:02):
So tonight we got some stuff to talk about. We got Bitcoin, not just goes over 100,000, but it clears easily. The market does a hard correction that stabilizes. Then we got Hawk to it, more like talk to a judge. Hawk coin rugs, CEOs scared out of their minds and Mario character who loves Monopoly clues brought in for question and court. Is he getting out what they get out a free jail card or are we expecting someone to rule?
Speaker 11 (03:29):
that's right that's right that's what's going on in the finished
Speaker 6 (03:37):
What a funny start, man. I can't wait to play that recording back.
Speaker 12 (03:44):
It's all good in the neighborhood Right now he's looking for the record He's rewinding the tape
Speaker 11 (03:52):
anyway let's jump right to it let's get right into the subject matter I know normally we start with what's a little happening over the week unless you got something real interesting you want to talk about I don't my week was just talking of work and doing lots of I mean, where you want to do. You want to hear me just bitch for a hot second? Yeah, I do. Actually, let's hear it.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Sunday Sunday morning is swim lessons for the kid Go out to go get a haircut afterwards Go eat some breakfast at a delicious place Called the Celtic Kitchen Don't know if you've ever been there
Speaker 10 (04:29):
a good breakfast. back to you? No, but they all of the like, most of the staff they're like, it's like they're legit Irish.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
So, or Scottish or whatever. Anyway, on the way back driving on the highway and you know me I'm not riding up somebody's ass. Gotta say following distance. I'm in my truck that doesn't even have 5,000 miles on it yet in a fucking BMW. One growling which kicks up a rock takes a
Speaker 10 (04:57):
- Oh. - And I'm fucking fuming. Because there's other people in the road, sure. But like there's not trucks that normally have like the debris and crap to fall out of it. It's like just a random freak occurrence- - Yup.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Or whatever. And me and my wife have the absolute fucking worst luck when it comes to, like, taking a chip in the windshield with the rock, because, Chris, you remember when we went up for the Eclipse, how that one chipped his shoe?
Speaker 10 (05:31):
windshield turned into a big crack. Well, we got her windshield replaced. Not even two weeks later, she's driving home from our kid's doctor's appointment.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
the morning and another fucking rock come out and hit her in chapter one.
Speaker 10 (05:46):
I just got a fucking placed. so then so then this happens to me in my truck and i'm not having a good fucking time so i'm telling you like as soon as i get home i got fucking safe light booked so oh boy coming out today so turns out that that where the chip was it was near the way way bottom of the windshield like where it's still like you know black yeah and uh so sunday so sunday is when this happened monday morning i wake up to go to work you know a little bit of frost on inch crack coming up the windshield from where the fucking ship is. After you. Supposedly, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
This is yesterday. Oh, okay, okay. So I'm looking at it and I'm like, you gotta be fucking kidding me. I was like if this crack any more
Speaker 10 (06:48):
So,
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I, I can't want to bitch about him being like other people, you know, wasn't that late. I'm just mad, man. I want to be mad at somebody. So safe flight dude comes and, you know, he, he didn't call saying like, Hey, I'm on the way. He called like, as he's pulling in the driveway. So I'm like trying to get off a work call that I was doing, taking it home and run upstairs. And he's already standing in the truck. And I opened the door and like take one step outside. And he goes, Hey man, I hate to be the bear of bad news. I can't fix this. And I'm like, what are you talking about? And he's like, all right. So this black area down here where you got this original chip, Like this just fucking stupid. So now I got to fucking put a fucking, you know, claiming the insurance, $300 windshield deductible. So it's only going to cost me 300 bucks. So I can't, you know, you shouldn't have a deductible for windshield.
Speaker 11 (08:36):
everybody says but i do man your insurance is pulling one over on you bro you should get one was kinda be deductible, I think, a year.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
I don't know what else to tell you. I mean, maybe that's the thing I thought
Speaker 12 (08:57):
that auto insurance had to do that.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Most auto insurances just do it literally exactly what somebody else said. And I pulled up my policy.
Speaker 10 (09:08):
right in front of them, showed them and they just go, huh? I was like,
Speaker 2 (09:14):
don't know what else to tell you man like i'm not well maybe you just busted so many windshields they're like fucking justice dude i i well i that's the thing is i've never it my wife is the um is the one that has the bad
Speaker 10 (09:35):
I don't normally have
Speaker 2 (09:37):
So I don't know. But I'm looking right at it. Coverages, collision part seven, or sorry, comprehensive
Speaker 8 (09:52):
Damn, man.
Speaker 10 (09:56):
That sucks. So, but luckily, safe flight, they are taking care of me. Got an appointment tomorrow. Got taken in the shop because now it's fucking 2024 and all of our fucking cars are smarter than us. I mean, not that they weren't before, but fucking smarter than they were 20 years ago. So now I can't just get a windshield replaced. They have to do, like, all this calibration of, yeah, like, forward facing cameras and like all the other shit safe flight repair safe flight replace
Speaker 12 (10:27):
so one.
Speaker 9 (10:37):
Matt
Speaker 8 (10:40):
want it. You're right.
Speaker 12 (10:45):
right yeah it feel like it was a lot Oh, did you have anything exciting happen to you? Yeah, I'm alive. Alright, fair enough.
Speaker 8 (10:56):
Yeah. Tuesday. Shit, it's Tuesday.
Speaker 9 (11:05):
thought it was Monday all motherfucking day.
Speaker 11 (11:08):
- Absolutely, so I, you bring up JD Wentworth, so it ain't coming from my Bitcoin, that's for damn sure. You know, first on the list, man, we were talking, you know, uh breaking 100k finally uh i say finally but i'm actually surprised that it it went over that quickly i thought it was going to be held back a little bit until maybe like late december
Speaker 2 (11:36):
uh you know on the other side of 2025 but not only that but you but i mean we both kind of figured that that 100k was going to be a pretty significant resistance point and if you
Speaker 10 (11:53):
it the fact that like, OK, well, great. It hit hard. But like is going to immediately retract and it's
Speaker 2 (12:00):
a decent clip or something like that. Uh, but it, it didn't, it kept going. It went to like what? One Oh three and a half, almost one Oh four. Something like that. But I did see it at 103 and some change So at some point it went up to that high and and and you know Talking about topic numeric dozze and had a pretty hard correction I believe it's like there's some that have actually come back today like XRP is back up to like to 20 Stuff like that, but I mean for a hard second there It was everything else came ended coming back down about 10% or so
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Like in the 93, 94 range for a day or so, but I mean it's yeah, a lot of
Speaker 11 (12:46):
15 20% I did end up grabbing a little bit more of a couple you know put a a diversify on the on the pullback because you know i what i typically do is i don't you know when things they call it laddering down just like you can dca you could ladder up let it down whatever so i'll uh little DCA in.
Speaker 12 (13:11):
...be careful, too, because...
Speaker 8 (13:14):
- I think this was a correction, but you don't know.
Speaker 11 (13:19):
going to have another leg down right nobody really knows so you know when you when you when you're buying the dip so to speak uh typically you don't know if it's actually the bottom of the dip exactly so you know you want to take advantage right for things that you are interested in and you're like hey i want to get some more you're like hey it's on sale so i'm going to get a bit more but what you typically don't do is when you see the first first correction or the first
Speaker 12 (14:02):
you let it ride, or maybe you buy it as it's going out as it gets through certain resistance points things like that. There's a lot of different strategies out there researching, but nonetheless, it did, it went above one of my
Speaker 11 (14:17):
as intended so nothing
Speaker 12 (14:22):
have to be fine with surrogacy. about that in my opinion.
Speaker 10 (14:26):
Well here, well here's, I mean, Not for nothing, I'm not trying to say. That I was right, because obviously anyone can say that they made a prediction that was, you know, similar or close to, right.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
we talked about where we said you know hey whenever bitcoin finally does run you know i talked a little bit more about how we might hopefully see some actual like price stability after it gets done with its run and it's obviously way too early to tell you know it's still sitting in the high 90s right now and whatnot but i mean for the most part if it retracted from being at at 103 and change and it only came down to 93 94 and change before it kind of came back up to
Speaker 2 (15:18):
They're gonna start putting it in online stores,
Speaker 1 (15:20):
which is kind of resource them all coin surging. And that kind of, you know, gets the investor fear of what you're talking about, Chris, where it has that little dip because people are taking profits and moving on elsewhere so that you have all these ETFs that are now eaten up some of that capital. And it really kind of stabilizes the price. I mean, I would be shocked unless there's anything crazy that happens, you know,
Speaker 12 (15:47):
next couple of months, I'd be shocked if Bitcoin goes back down below even 85 grand again, like ever. Yeah. And there's really three things that kind of happen there. There's one is the true profit takers, right? People that like say, all right, it broke a hundred thousand, which by the way, let me start with this, by the way, breaking a hundred thousand aside from being a huge milestone is actually a great thing to happen right now, because if this bull market is to of milestone you know stuck in people's brains but um you know when when things like that happen and it and it starts to pull back what there's three things that typically happen you've got the there'd be an opportunity to really call back on a bullshit can't wait, then again, you gotta sew up a "Money over Money" process, literally. Like what, how could you do this?
Speaker 11 (17:04):
maybe keep it aside, tax purposes, Christmas presents, whatever the hell they're doing with it. Then you have the people that see this dip, like Paul was just saying, and get nervous. And they're like, oh shit, we hit the top of something. It's all going to come crashing down. Let me get everything I have out of the market. Let me get, you know, and they stop pulling it back. And a lot of times it ends up biting you there because by the time you notice the speed of most people
Speaker 8 (17:44):
driver to make the market like crash, whatever the pullback was, you already have already gotten. You've survived. It's already there. You've already realized that loss. So now you're actually taking that loss and then the market will go back
Speaker 1 (18:01):
That seems to be what is at least happening for today. And it kind of did that in a microtransaction way. It kind of did that, right? Because it hit its all-time high at that 103, 104 change, wherever exactly it was. It did pull back to under 100k a couple of times. I remember getting up in the morning and seeing it was at 102 or whatever. And then during the day, I'd look at it and be like at 99. But at times, it went back up to mid-102, high-102,
Speaker 10 (19:13):
all back after people pulled
Speaker 11 (19:15):
back into Bitcoin and continue the cycle. And, and, you know, the you have to have a catalyst, I think, in order for it to drop maybe upper 80s, maybe, but any
Speaker 12 (19:29):
I think you'd have to have some kind of catalyst that drives it well.
Speaker 11 (19:32):
Another global conflict breaks out, some kind of banking crisis, something that'd have to be some kind of catalyst, I think, that would... FTX 2.0? Yeah, something like that. Otherwise,
Speaker 12 (19:49):
confident that it should stay near this floor a little
Speaker 11 (19:53):
when your the third thing that drives us to is the, uh, uh, traders, right? People that are doing, you know margin trading and leverage trading because they're getting liquidated, right? Or they're cashing out so they don't get liquidated, and what that means is if somebody is saying, OK, I believe Bitcoin is going to go up to leveraging, you know, however much
Speaker 12 (20:21):
10 X, 20 X, 100 X, and then they're using margin, which is borrowing money from an exchange so I can keep the gains off after I make my gains and close my position? Well, if that position goes the other way and bitcoin starts falling, they're losing money equivalent to
Speaker 11 (20:45):
So if they leverage 10x, they are losing 10x, whatever the original deposit was.
Speaker 12 (20:51):
So 1%, they're losing 10%. So they need to close out positions to save face or they get liquidated. So a great deal of that, when this starts diving pretty hard and you see that
Speaker 11 (21:08):
and directions.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
so they don't get liquidated. Yeah, I kind of I mean, I get it.
Speaker 10 (21:20):
profitable, but I hate the the basically the side hustle when it comes to like that, that side of investments, like just either go with the product or not quit doing this like side bet shit.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
stream animals and shit like that. We're like, oh, let's do some side bets. So we're instigators too. But I mean, damn. Yeah.
Speaker 12 (21:43):
those are people that are trying to play crypto. like you play the stock market. 'Cause that's very, very common. in the stock market is leveraging You know, and shit like that. those are those
Speaker 7 (22:02):
or
Speaker 6 (22:06):
you so you know that's that
Speaker 1 (22:11):
but still it was it was fun it was fun seeing it happen it was fun seeing it not just have to be like where you take a screenshot
Speaker 10 (22:22):
It being 100 k but that it went above, it went a little bit above and it stayed up there for a little bit.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Like you said, Chris, there's a lot of people waiting for something like that to happen. Not just, I mean, it's going to sound weird to say, but not just to have it happen, but because it did happen. You had so many people waiting after the halving that the price didn't skyrocket after the halving. And we kind of talked about that. We said there's going to be a delay in price going up after halving. And I think that we might have gotten a little bit of a perfect storm coming together to...
Speaker 2 (22:59):
the conditions just right to have a decent run up and go up there. And it's just nice to see that it's staying in that area. Yeah. Yeah. And it was nice to see people say, I'm not, you know, like not a lot of people say, well, I'm just 100 K, I'm done with it. You know, like that was my concern and at this time I
Speaker 12 (23:16):
really didn't own any Doge but remember when Elan was really Saturday Night Live and everything and everybody thought it was going to hit a dollar when he went on Saturday Night Live and I think it got up to about 70 something cents My concern with it, if I was a doge holder at that time, was I would've sold that like 98 cents. Because everybody was just talking about, "It's going to hit a dollar.
Speaker 8 (23:42):
In my mind, there was a lot of people that were looking to sell. As soon as it hits a dollar, everybody's mouse hovering on that cell. Yeah. Everybody was like, when it hits a dollar, I'm done. I made my money. I'm gone. So it was nice to see that with everybody talking about 100%.
Speaker 11 (24:00):
$100K, yes, there was profit taken, but it's still sitting at 96, right now.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
that is great to see. So speaking of Doge, you remember someone with, um, I know you're talking about, do you, do you remember what, do you remember what he said at, when we were at that restaurant about doge?
Speaker 10 (24:23):
And so, so me and Chris used to work with someone and for the same company, but they were, they were overseas came back for a little all met up, went to, you know, go drink and have some dinner at a bar. And we were talking, cause this guy like crypto as well. And he even said, you know, Oh, I, I, I got into doge really early. We were like, Oh, well, how early? And this is around the time that, you know, people were talking about doge hitting a dollar. And he,
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I got an early enough to where if it hits a dollar, me and the next, like four generations
Speaker 10 (24:57):
of my family will be set for life.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
And we're like, Oh God, like that, you went that hard into it. And he goes, Oh yeah. And we didn't ask.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
knowing what we know. I have a feeling Chris that got fucking held on and he didn't sell a single one. Yeah, probably not. Which that I mean, you can always, you know, argue hindsight 2020, all that kind of stuff. But I don't, I don't think that he was necessarily hoping for it to to hit a dollar. But he might, you know, he might be thinking it's a you know, it's a long term. Like, I think she did the same thing where, like, you know, it had it's like a couple of different iterations where it just fucking skyrocketed
Speaker 2 (25:40):
insurgents or i don't know i hope you know i think in the back of my mind i hope that guy took profits i hope he did yeah i mean even right now it's sitting at 30 37 38 cents it hit like 50 something was it 50 something it hit like 70 something i thought no i'm talking about like recently recently oh It looks like about $0.47. So, I mean, that's halfway. So, whatever money he would have made out of dollars is considerable. He's got to have taken profits in it at some point. it's the way and he said it like so nonchalantly to like oh yeah if it hits a dollar like me and the next four generations of my family will God damn, like this dude's thought about it. Like he's literally counted generations to see like how much is get
Speaker 12 (26:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (26:33):
Good shit. You know where he's not or anybody's not going to get no generational money from?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
I'm going to say it was whatever a couple
Speaker 10 (26:47):
It's a slotty coin. Yeah, I mean, I think that...
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Oh, hold on. My life is just going to texture back. I thought first and foremost about this Chris and I Paul can answer it too when he comes back but is it on her or is it on her team? All right well okay so we got first we got to talk a little bit about kind of what happened there before we were like really make that determination but I'd like to start out by saying if anybody's listening to this and doesn't know what happened you're living in a fucking
Speaker 9 (27:20):
Go read some. Dude, I even.
Speaker 12 (27:23):
like that's how much I seen it. Both of my brothers send me news articles on this shit, three of my best friends.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
So Or God, well, go ahead
Speaker 10 (27:35):
So I'd like to point out that the money that got got, that is not generational wealth by any stretch of the imagination. But basically, you know, she brings devs on, she wants to launch a token, whatever. Someone convinces her, hey, you should launch a token. It'd be a great idea, that kind of stuff. What looks like happened is a huge majority of the supply was basically given to like the team behind this token,
Speaker 1 (28:14):
The team was never going to sell. That was a fucking lie they sold. a profit from every single person that went in on that initial run up after it launched. And that's basically long story short of what happened.
Speaker 10 (28:30):
not we think she did it or if it was the team it's pretty damning when you you start a space right like you start an x space because you want to discuss it or you want to you know tell people and be like we don't know what happened or whatever which they did they blatantly lied talking about how it was not them selling tokens because good old coffee zilla you know fucking detective extraordinaire of crypto requested to speak and i actually got to see um someone Right? Just interrupts him and goes, all right, well, I'm going to bed. Good night, y'all. And just leaves.
Speaker 11 (29:24):
And hasn't been seen.
Speaker 8 (29:26):
Two weeks. Yeah.
Speaker 12 (29:30):
I mean, I can't say I blame her lawyers probably said stay off the social media, but still.
Speaker 9 (29:37):
It's in her name. We get that. We know that. But is she the one truly pulling the strings? That's my question. I don't believe so. I don't believe so. This is. Sorry. The team quote unquote. Yeah. That wanted her to do this old at her getting heartstrings. You know what I mean? Because she's all about helping people on the. to the totem pole, the homeless, the ones that can't get by, Because their luck is that fucking terrible. Right? Yeah. I have a feeling they pulled at that. Obviously, and they've done what assholes do
Speaker 12 (30:23):
Your assholes. Yeah, I, I, I agree with that. I, I agree with that. At least for the most part. Right. So she definitely didn't develop the damn thing. She probably didn't even like seek anybody out. They sought her out is my opinion. Yeah. There's a ton of celebrity coins that have launched tons of them over the last four months, five months or so. Um, and even beyond that, like there was a bulk of them that was just, every couple of days. - That's what happens in the bull market. - Before you finish Chris, I want to make it clear, I don't think this was a Logan Paul move on her behalf. - Oh, I don't think so either. - Yeah. - I don't think so either. Obviously she's involved. consequences for being involved. You know, hey, you gotta you gotta consequences, you got to do your own homework, where we tell people, do your own Do your diligence before you get involved in anything. When it comes to crypto, especially because of shit like this. So all these damn celebrity tokens are launching one after another. They're looking, always looking for
Speaker 11 (31:31):
Right? It's because the developers know they're going to make tons of money. There's a couple of and I won't name them on here, but there's a couple of promoters that promote their products to
Speaker 12 (31:44):
because they're getting shit on the back end. Either they get the contract address early so they can snipe it or get an early allocation getting it real cheap. Not necessarily
Speaker 11 (31:55):
but very shady, right? Like you're not telling people that you're getting in early, that you're getting, you know, whatever. So, and then they dump on everybody. So I think what really happened here was exactly that. She got approached by a group of developers, because I was also told,
Speaker 12 (32:14):
this but I was told that these individuals are also linked to other rug pulls and other celebrity launches and shit like that so they Stern said, hey. you 120 grand up front which supposedly she admitted they did her lawyer even admitted they gave her 120 well they committed to 120 grand uh i'm not sure if she ever got it uh they got 50 percent or something like that yeah so something like that 120 grand whether she got it or not 120 grand was going to her up front and then she was getting an allocation of the tokens i believe it was somewhere around five percent maybe ten percent and it was really quick yeah really quick
Speaker 5 (33:11):
out of her 50%, she would have to pay her non crypto team, too. So in reality, she
Speaker 9 (33:17):
only hold 3.5 percent of the tokens withdrawn if that
Speaker 12 (33:22):
That's just part of the story. have to keep five. And then she's going to have to give something to her team, that kind of thing. Yeah. And then they were going to be also locked up for three years. And then she was supposed to get more after the launch, right? But obviously, that wasn't going to right? Because they just took the money and bounced. So, I think that's really what happened. They approached her. They seen it as an opportunity for them to make money. I know they reported that the shit was sniped. If it was sniped, and I put air quotes around that, it was probably by the dev team. I didn't look at the blockchain, so I don't know. Either they were allocated by, no kidding, the deployer gave them an allocation of tokens, or they obviously had the contract address, so they just transaction to get those tokens immediately beat everybody to the punch get the first allocation of tokens then tell everybody about it and i think this thing skyrocketed to like 500 million market cap before tanking like 95 percent within like minutes yeah 500 million market cap before rapidly thumming thumbling as heavy selling pressure from early investors over one demand from newcomers the market cap is now hovering around 20 million and trading volume is less than a half a million
Speaker 5 (34:53):
this terminology means. Would you say this is somewhat equivalent on the stock market as insider
Speaker 12 (35:01):
1000%.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I just want to make that, I just want to make that point.
Speaker 9 (35:08):
I know there's some of the listeners that listen to Affinity Protocol. They're interested, but again, they don't know how to metaphorically understand it.
Speaker 11 (35:18):
- 1000%, and it's obviously a worse outcome because of the way crypto works.
Speaker 12 (35:27):
how that transpired, yeah, it's basically the same thing because inside of trading in the stock market is, let's say I own a company and you're part of the company or you work for the company and we're about to have big news come out big news. Like we're getting acquired by Google or some shit and for billions of dollars and our company is only worth five million at the time. So that is going to make every stockholder rich. But we don't tell anybody.
Speaker 8 (35:57):
out to the, you know, it opens up your TD Ameritrade account or It goes and buys a bunch of this like a ton
Speaker 12 (36:05):
about the stock, and then we announce the news. That's insider trading. It is no different when you're dealing with launching a token,
Speaker 11 (36:16):
You don't tell anybody publicly, that you're gonna promote it and you're a high profile person and you know the masters are gonna come flock to it and everybody else,
Speaker 9 (36:26):
that's part of it, buys into it, and then you launch it. - One of the bigger ones that I could equate something like this to would be Pork Stock back when that happened, the insider trading on it. Do you remember that or reading about it? - I don't really remember that. - There was a lot of had trading places I think with Eddie Murphy and Dan Ackroyd. I think they even I think they even talked about the pork stock at some time and he buys all this fucking pork stock and it's completely useless. It's worth absolute shit, and he doesn't know that people in I've already flipped him over. So he gets fired. Oh yeah. it was being pork though. Okay. Uh, it, I think it was pork. I want to say it was, I remember pork being mentioned in the movie, but there was a lot of, a lot of movies that are centred around stock market Dennis Cornley
Speaker 2 (37:37):
- Arnie Madoff? - That asshole.
Speaker 12 (37:41):
- Yeah, he was doing less insider trading, the reason why, he was doing the Ponzi where you take somebody else's money to pay somebody else promising
Speaker 9 (37:50):
and you're just giving somebody else somebody else's money exactly but yeah yeah i just wanted to make sure those that don't understand what we were talking about
Speaker 12 (38:00):
could identify what it was. Yeah. And the trouble is because and we don't want it to you that doesn't increases. you that doesn't increases. I think always infected me - A security, you hear that Gary, it's not a security. It doesn't really,
Speaker 11 (38:16):
to those same rules of insider trading because it's not a security. - Yeah. - But, the theory behind it is the same. It's much more devastating
Speaker 9 (38:27):
devastating the way that shit happens. I mean, it's brutal. - Yeah. - Brutal. - And I think the, I think a key takeaway from this to Celebrity or some shit. Don't just go all in on something. Don't fucking do that. Especially when you know damn well that Celebrity knows his dick off.
Speaker 8 (38:45):
- Exactly. - Well, I mean, I'm not trying to diss the girl, but what is, I can't remember her real name, So I'm going to call a Hot Tula Girl again- - Hayley Welch. - Hayley Welch. - Hayley Welch. What does Hayley Welch know about
Speaker 9 (39:00):
is the first thing i've even heard her speak about crypto and when as soon as i seen hot coin i was like what the fuck is hot coin and i seen it and i was like no she didn't no she fucking didn't And I'm— I'm not saying she's all to blame. Obviously, some blame does lay on her, but I feel like somebody pulled at her heartstrings is like, Hey,
Speaker 5 (39:25):
with all this.
Speaker 12 (39:27):
And now she's in a fucking hole. So I know why people bought it, you know, because it was like,
Speaker 11 (39:35):
What did you think was going to happen if you bought a coin called Hog? Most people know she doesn't know. No, she didn't develop it. But I don't care what they're looking for. Do you remember when back in 2020, all people were trying to do is create tokens that were worth
Speaker 12 (39:54):
that Elon Musk would potentially put in one of his tweets. So that way, when he put out a tweet, if that then link that shit to their thing and say see Elon supports our token and it would go nuts they were using it in those stupid ass ads too those you know they're Yeah. You bet my ass I hate, hate pop culture. I hate something likev devils creator. I hate talking about ads is what I'm talking about. Right? Like yeah. It just got played wrong.
Speaker 11 (40:32):
and it sucks, but it happens. If you're going to play in that You're going to get dirty.
Speaker 8 (40:42):
ил
Speaker 12 (40:46):
That's how I do.
Speaker 10 (40:52):
so we're gonna kill that topic
Speaker 9 (41:01):
Why are CEOs so scared right now? Well, again,
Speaker 2 (41:08):
because you're living under a rock. The CEO of United Health got marked right in the streets of New York. Giant Rock, dude. Now, there's...
Speaker 10 (41:20):
I've got a theory behind this, too, but keep going. There's a lot of stuff that we could talk about here, but the general gist of it is that there's a lot of
Speaker 1 (41:31):
funny things that have come out of this. I'm not going to give an opinion on how I feel about a lot of things other than the humor behind it. Maybe that's people's coping mechanisms, you know, stuff like that.
Speaker 10 (41:46):
Um, you know, there's been lots of jokes about like CEOs making particular decisions, especially around the same time as this happened. Mm.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
really funny, you know, the Ben Affleck meme of him, like, holding a cigarette.
Speaker 10 (42:00):
hell uh if anyone didn't know come 2025 guess who's gonna be back at mcdonald's the snack rap i thought she's gonna say donald trump well i mean that's you know how do you looks work too but um but they uh they joke because like that announcement was right around the time of uh the murder of the ceo of united health and they're like oh yeah he he's seen the news
Speaker 1 (42:38):
headshot that, you know, is used to advertise for acting and stuff like that. And it says when the McDonald's CEO, uh, thinks he's safe from bringing back the snack wrap, and then it shows the stressed out one with the cigarette. And it says when he finds out to McDonald's employees and one of the ratted out the guy. Yeah. So it's, uh, there's, there's a lot of funny stuff coming from here, but, um, The, the, a lot of stuff that's happening. seeing is people that are, you know, in executive level positions are removing what their position is on their LinkedIn profile, or removing some of their social profiles completely. They're
Speaker 10 (43:14):
They're a little bit hard to recognize who they are as a person. Yeah. So something like this has kind of rattled, uh, the community of executives of large companies, the first time this has happened, I got to go edit our web
Speaker 9 (43:27):
Hey, hey, we need to we need to get a fucking group on JD Vance too because they might mistake him for Paul That's right. Yeah, leave me the fuck alone I'm telling you right now I'm strapped so don't even try it So a friend of mine and myself have been talking about this because one of his a mutual friend, but they talk to him more has been talking about, oh, they're so glad this happened and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know the whole three quarters of America is happy bullshit. And our theory is that they're rooting for him because he's the muscular, attractive Italian dude, right? He's the guy that looks like he's not the guy, I should say, that crawled out of the swamp and looks homeless and shit like that. Yeah, he doesn't look like the Donald Trump attempted sniper looking dude, yeah. Ted Bundy was a mass fucking killer who's a piece of shit. And they think it's fictional. So you have to be good looking. Right. And that's our thing. We have that theory because the ones that look like pieces of shit nobody cares about. But the ones who look like they fucking model for Calvin Klein. Oh, my God. I'm so glad he done that. Just make babies with me. Like, really?
Speaker 10 (45:08):
And hang on to these jerks Yellowed their hoodies At the cute amount of life That they need Above their cats And boom Baby Da bought meim
Speaker 9 (45:34):
back in the day, modeling for him, whichever one it was. That's who he looks like. And he's probably actually a piece of shit who can't get a girlfriend and, and, and, and keeper. You know what I mean? Like he can probably get a lot of girlfriends.
Speaker 12 (45:48):
*洬他是 en religions* age. I need them. Right? So what I can do is I'm going to plug someone else for,
Speaker 11 (45:57):
anything like this you're gonna have theories i'm not gonna call them conspiracy theories because a lot of conspiracy theories have come true oh no not right so i'm just gonna call it a theory okay because i have no idea if it's true or not but people are saying that he was framed because of of his background and like a lot of it doesn't really seem to be telling evidence that was found on him at six in the morning at a mcdonald's yeah yeah like he just happens to
Speaker 12 (46:33):
the fine details of this story, I know of the story because I don't live under a rock. I know what happened and I see the images of the person and some of the details, but I haven't really like dug into it, but I did see that because again, I'm on social media a lot, so I see this shit and there are theories that this kid was framed because he went to a private school where his parents Okay! - And like this is exactly just ohne there was no defence, there was absolutely no defence. There was no defence. There was no defense. All the defensive operations
Speaker 9 (47:14):
Look at all the other mass murderers and just murderers in history. They all had great jobs. They were all... epitome of a perfect citizen in their neighborhood. And they got a big head, because I'm never going to get caught, right? They got that mentality. If he was framed, he was framed. If he was a dumb It's that fucking easy. Like, I mean, if he was framed, I'm sorry, dude. You deserve an outstanding fucking defense lawyer. If you're a piece of shit criminal, you deserve to be put in jail and whatever consequences happen. That's what happens.
Speaker 10 (47:53):
Well I'd just like to remind everyone as well that we we follow the moral which is that you are innocent until you are proven guilty, not the opposite of it.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
to automatically assume guilt and think that
Speaker 10 (48:07):
proven, it is the exact opposite. I just want to throw that out there because a lot of people like to jump to conclusions. What the mother fucker guilty.
Speaker 9 (48:17):
from half 2, I'm somebody's bitch. Fucking Tommy Chong's bitch. Oh, he's going to be somebody's bitch. He pretty. Yeah. He's going to be Harlem Williams. I'm somebody's bitch. I'm thinking that's a good thing. Oh, shit.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
that went on with that there's you know the people commenting like oh my god look at this john wick and like i was it's funny because i was just cussing it with my wife and i was like that is not john wick at all and she's like she's like what do you mean i was like he has a gun that jams after the first round is shot like what what really really good popular like assassin hitman is gonna have a gun that jams after shot number one like oh i haven't cleaned my pistol
Speaker 10 (49:15):
and re-engaged, like, okay, um, it, it's really easy to do that with a pistol. It's called tap rec bang. is moderately anyone that is moderately proficient with firearms knows that especially for pistols a little bit one like one extra step when it comes to a rifle but uh or at least a semi-auto rifle but um it's a pretty
Speaker 1 (49:35):
and continue on with your day. But, you know, we talk about, you know, Mario character who loves Monopoly clues. I guess the guy they picked up, his name is Luigi. So I'm upset personally that they couldn't find a lawyer named Mario to defend him. But. He he left his backpack that he had on him, like somewhere in Central Park. It was like full of Monopoly clues. You know, all the crazies are coming out and saying that, you know, it was a McDonald's employee that, you know, called the authorities on him. And, you know, now that he had the monopoly cash in his backpack, like what if this is just McDonald's way of announcing the new monopoly game or the restaurant? Like there's all sorts of crazy commentary that is going along with it. And it is absolutely insane. Two is to have a get-out-of-jail-free card, which he's not going to have that, and the third way is to roll doubles. He said, I bet you this guy has a fucking cosmic twin on the outside who's going to do something else like a copycat crime on that that it's not the guy that they have in custody? Oh shit. Or maybe. That's just fucking crazy.
Speaker 11 (51:29):
had proof
Speaker 1 (51:33):
It was already proven that the boardwalk piece was out to family members of someone an executive at McDonald's. It does not exist. I mean it could be. It could be. Yeah that's crazy when you told me that because I didn't realize he actually had Monopoly money on him. No he didn't have it on him. He had it in the backpack that he - Yeah, the back of his leg. - When they arrested him or at least took him into custody in Pennsylvania, he supposedly had 8,000 US dollars and 2,000 in a foreign currency. But then when he was when he was in court he tried to argue that the money, he did not have the money on him.
Speaker 10 (52:20):
He didn't even say, like, it's mine or anything. He said he's outright fucking denying the Monopoly money is. No, no, no. The actual cash. Oh, the actual cash. Yeah. So basically, Monopoly money. But didn't he have his passport on him, too? He had. So he supposedly had a couple of different IDs, some of them being fake. One of them, the idea that he gave authorities at McDonald's was supposedly the same ID he used to check into a hostel in New York when he went up there,
Speaker 1 (52:57):
that was a similar type of gun, plus a silencer on like all of this, either on his person or Every single piece of evidence that would incriminate him to have being part of that crime in addition to the casing for the bullet in his pocket, right? In addition to funds that would have allowed him to flee the country, hence them denying bond. Or bail. So there's there's a lot of weird stuff going on with how he was taking. customers talking about how they got into custody they're you know talking about custody they're you know talking about custody they're you know talking about how it's you know 3d printed gun or at how it's you know 3d printed gun or at how it's you know 3d printed gun or at least 3d printed lower like least 3d printed lower like least 3d printed lower like bro if i have a 3d printed gun right and bro if i have a 3d printed gun right and bro if i have a 3d printed gun right and i use it to commit a crime i use it to commit a crime i use it to commit a crime especially where i have fired a shot The one thing to really tie a weapon or physical evidence to a person that did it, they can want to recreate that ballistics. definitively that it's a match.
Speaker 9 (53:55):
the fucking 3d printed gun is destroying it. Like that's number one. I think a lot of people's. Theories around this whole shooting though, is because I think he was, United-Health or something CEO? Yup. Yeah. United Healthcare. So a lot of people are saying, oh, you get what you deserve type of shit. And I'm like, eh, did he deserve it though?
Speaker 10 (54:24):
unless you were a child predator or some shit like that in my mind anyway some people disagree with me but there's very few instances where I think somebody deserved it right like yeah and this is not one of them they're also saying it was premeditated right assuming so yeah I would assume so I mean yeah the guy scoped out the hotel for a little bit waiting for him to walk out yeah that's what I was gonna say I think
Speaker 1 (55:20):
They'd be able to get ballistics from that and attempt to match it to the ballistics from the crime. The second piece is they had talked about how they believed that they got a potential DNA evidence from a Starbucks cup that he had thrown away while he was making his way to where he waited or while he was at where he waited to commit the crime. So those are two very, very solid and damning pieces of physical evidence. If both of those Let me start with the State of New York, does not have a case. Doesn't matter if he has a manifesto. It doesn't matter if he had weapons. matter if he even says i'm a little crazy i might have done it they don't have any physical him to the crime if they do not have those two things. Yeah. Yeah, isn't it true that you cannot convict somebody of murder unless you have Necessarily. It's normally, like, a smoking gun thing, right?
Speaker 9 (56:25):
say, say I go out and shoot somebody and I have the gun completely melted down. That doesn't mean I'm never going to get convicted because the murder weapon doesn't exist anymore. Okay. There is a case. I've actually watched this as fucking sickening. Um, this man was doing things to his daughter. They lived at this other guy's house. ended up killing the guy because he was looking at dude's daughter. He burned his body. They weren't for sure if he shot and beat him to death, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. they didn't know how to charge him, but they charged him with murder anyway.
Speaker 5 (57:11):
And he won't come out until like 2099 or some bullshit. But even without evidence of how he killed him, he
Speaker 2 (57:20):
They know he killed him because he admitted it. But he never said how he killed him. Yeah. And that's, what's wild about the whole court system too, is you have to get the charges, right. Or you can potentially let somebody go that actually did murder him, but because you called it murder one and it turns out it was murder to a manslaughter. Yeah. They get off. Cause you charged him with murder. And even then sometimes it doesn't work. Cause look at the guy from the whole subway incident that has been in the news recently as well.
Speaker 1 (57:58):
I thought they were very good at this, but they didn't, you know, they couldn't come to a decision. So they tried to dismiss that charge and put in a lesser charge. And it's still the jury still couldn't do it. So they tried to dismiss that one and put in an even lesser charge that was like
Speaker 10 (58:13):
for involuntary manslaughter, which is why he was acquitted. Yeah, Daniel Penny, what a shit. Not guilty of criminally negligent homicide. Yeah, that's what it was, not involuntary manslaughter. Say thank you. Well, and then he pleaded not guilty to charges
Speaker 9 (58:28):
of second-degree manslaughter and criminally negligent homicides. So they had them both on there. Yeah, well, and those are the ones they end up dismissing to try to get him convicted of the lesser charge. But I mean, if you watch the video. didn't deliberately kill anybody, you're in the moment. And yeah, it's one of those things you do a choke hold to somebody and you're in the moment, you're not paying attention to if they're alive or not. You just know that once their hands go down, all you do is let go. That's all, you know? Right. Yeah. He said when he was choking him, he was paying attention to his struggling and his struggling became less he would relieve more pressure as he struggled less and that's exactly how we're taught in the military and this dude's obviously military but he was a marine And that's exactly how you're taught. At least we were all know about you. Chair for his guys. But, um, when we were teaching shit, man, if you're in the Air Force and they teach you how to do a chokehold, something's wrong. When we done hand to hand combat, you're doing in the Air Force is like what that, uh, self-asphyxiation erotica stuff. I'm not going to tell you what kind of choke is easy in the Air Force. That's actually what they teach you. Um, the exact same thing as they're struggling gets less, you start to relieve pressure, because you want to have control as much as possible until they're done. Not dead, but done. They're not fighting anymore. Had had they been standing up, he probably would have done the choke hold and grabbed one of his arms and got control of his thumb behind his back. For those that don't know, you grab somebody's thumb behind their back, "F*** you, say." Oh yeah, yeah. "Trust me." "They ain't doin' sh*t else." That's just a couple of the things probably that he would had been trained. But yeah, there there was no doubt that was not intentional murder by any means. And I think the guy was even on drugs that he cold, right. Or am I wrong? I didn't see a toxicology on them. I want to say, I seen something about that early on, because I think Sergeant Ward dog brought this up and we were like, oh, good for the Marine. He, he tackled the situation. And then we heard the end of the article and we were like, oh, fuck the justice system. Right. Um, but I think they did say something. Smuggs, don't hold me to that. It could have been another fucking-- - Yeah, the only thing I've seen
Speaker 12 (01:00:57):
the gentleman who did it said it appeared that he was on drugs. I haven't seen a toxicology, though. I didn't read that much into it. Oh, I mean, even in the video, you--
Speaker 9 (01:01:10):
we would have been like, "yeah, dude was fucking high on something" Yeah, yeah. but anyway, we better not go down that route.
Speaker 10 (01:01:18):
It is not 30. Right. We didn't we didn't see that in Vegas when we went to DEF CON at all. No, not in Vegas.
Speaker 12 (01:01:25):
Yup. No centers out there. I couldn't hold it back. So pure. We're speaking of speaking of this, this is going to be, you know, if, for me, but if you haven't.
Speaker 9 (01:01:38):
you've got to go, it's a good time. - Well, maybe when I get that and then we can all... cruise. That's what we'll all do. and TV, radio, and work. go to fucking Vegas, we'll do it all." I ain't saying nothing. You know what I'm saying? I just you know, I got my ways. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 6 (01:02:11):
The 600 DMs. Dude. 600. That's all.
Speaker 9 (01:02:18):
- That's right. They delete after 30 days. - A day. - Man. And shit. Them bitches. The way I want it. If I get it the way I want it, it's going to be like... Damn. That's not even including accessibility that the VA will do for 100% of the time. grant and I gotta pick up the rest. I'm like, are you fucking shitting me?iner. Just functional token.
Speaker 8 (01:02:57):
Oh shit, that shit's already on Pump.fun. You want to
Speaker 10 (01:03:04):
it acts just functionally, it's going to be coded into the contract that they had a random time Tick rate, and as soon as it hits
Speaker 9 (01:03:12):
matches the tick rate, it's going to just fucking sell everything. Shit, man. Oh, they wanted us to do a damn DV date nap. Did I ever tell you all that? Like when we had the big page, the 160 million follower reach page, they were like six, Oh, Google, you guys need to. so we can find people of our own kind, right? And we were like, do you understand the insurance and the legalities? We would have to jump through to make a dating app for you dumb asses.
Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
- Because this isn't back when
Speaker 9 (01:03:52):
well this is when our big shirt was uh uh dysfunctional uh while medicated or whatever it was i can't remember exactly what it was it was our while medicated t-shirt and it got big and then around that time they're like oh this would be great for for an advert for the dating And we're like, no, absolutely fucking not. and in the harmony you're not turning into what was the one where all it was supposed to be it but all the guys got their shit leaked. we were making jokes about that all the time. Like we're not Ashley Madison. We're not eHarmony. We're not plenty of fish. Y'all dysfunctional fuckers enough. Y'all go out here and do it yourselves. Yeah, it doesn't sound like a good idea.
Speaker 8 (01:04:39):
I jump in so it is a little after a little after
Speaker 12 (01:04:45):
You got anything else you want me to
Speaker 11 (01:04:47):
We close out for tonight.
Speaker 9 (01:04:49):
a barracks talk Saturday, 288 P.M. Eastern. We may or may not be doing a New Year's Eve show. If we don't, we'll run a little late on the either the 28th or the 4th, probably the 28th, though.
Speaker 12 (01:05:04):
Blew This Up, A Paul, what's up, man?
Speaker 11 (01:05:14):
episode. It was. One time one time as always with these dumbasses. I appreciate it. Yes. Yes. Thank you to Bo for joining us last minute and helping us add some commentary to it. I will say last couple weeks with Affinity Friday, Sundays we'll just call it Twitter X Spaces we've been a little discombobulated right with the holiday. We had Thanksgiving that weekend and then that kind of stuff. night so
Speaker 12 (01:06:42):
- Good to go.
Speaker 11 (01:06:45):
on our socials to let you guys know when and where.
Speaker 8 (01:06:51):
but on that note that's going to do it for us
Speaker 12 (01:06:55):
We, on Affinity protocol. Thanks again.
Speaker 11 (01:06:59):
For listening in. That's going to do it for us, but you want to sign us out? Yeah, we out. All right, we out. I thought he was going to hook us up with it. - I said, "Bow." - Oh
Speaker 9 (01:07:26):
Affinity and Affinity Protocol.
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