Dwell Differently

"Joy is accessible to all of us now, if we've put our trust in Jesus. This is something we can access and practice."

— Nicole Zasowski

Today's Episode: In this heartfelt episode, Nicole Zasowski sits down with Natalie Abbott to chat about the beautiful yet challenging journey of finding joy in the midst of life's trials. They discuss the biblical practice of speaking truth into circumstances as a means or rew...

"There are things going on that are difficult...and yet I will rejoice in the Lord."

— Natalie Abbott

Today's episode: Join host Natalie Abbott as she delves into the profound beauty of finding joy even in our struggles. In this episode, Natalie walks us through Habakkuk's journey from honest criticism of the injustices he sees to complete trust in the God who is just and who saves those who trust in him. You&apos...

"The more we learn about angels, the more we learn about God, and the more we can root our faith in him."

— Melissa Spoelstra

Today's Episode: Today Natalie is chatting with Melissa Spoelstra about the unseen spiritual realm, specifically angels. They talk about our tendency to either underemphasize or overemphasize angels—pointing out that a good theology of angels comes from a healthy study of them. They discuss how ...

"Suffering is where our faith is made real... And anything you see of enduring faith in me, that's God. That's his strength in my weakness."

— Christine Hoover

Today's Episode: Listen in as Natalie talks with Bible teacher Christine Hoover about how God brought her through the most difficult year of her life. She shares how she learned to rely on God's strength in her weakness, to relinquish control, to ...

"If I'm living by faith...I am believing that the God of the universe is at work. He is doing something. And I am not going to set that aside for something that is visible, something that is tangible."

— Natalie Abbott

Today's episode: Join Dwell Differently cofounders and sisters Natalie Abbott and Vera Schmitz as they discuss what it means to live out our faith. They talk about the real choice we make every day ...

"Our faith is not about how well we do our faith."

— Scarlet Hiltibidal

Today's Episode: Join Natalie Abbott and Scarlet Hiltibidal as they discuss what it looks like to actually live by faith and instead of trusting in more tangible things. It's messy, and it often feels precarious, but it's so good. Scarlet talks about how she's seen God show up in the midst of cross-country moves and sad days and her ...

"Faith allows us to thrive despite life's hardships." 

— Natalie Abbott

Today's episode: Join Natalie Abbott as she unpacks the powerful message of 2 Corinthians 5:7: "For we live by faith, not by sight." With thoughtful insight, she guides us verse by verse through the surrounding passage, highlighting how the Apostle Paul consistently contrasts the eternal promises of God with the fleeting realities of...

"Can I say with as much confidence as I'd be able to say at the end of [my hardship], when I get to see the positive outcome...that 'in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who've been called according to his purpose. What man intends for evil, God intends for good. And so today, I will walk with him?'"

— Raechel Myers

Today's Episode: Join us as Raechel Myers (cofounder of She R...

"Sometimes it's in the hardest, most terrible things that God brings out the most amazing redemptive stories."

— Natalie Abbott

Today's Episode: Join sisters and Dwell cofounders Vera and Natalie as they share how they've learned to trust God through difficult seasons. They reflect on times when they've seen God bring good out of even the worst parts of their lives. And even now, in the messy middle of t...

"We want Christians to have a healthy relationship with the news... But most Christians don't—it makes them really angry or really sad or really anxious." 

— Nate Wells

Today's Episode: All month long we're talking about God's good plan for his people for all time. And today, we're heading into the newsroom with The Pour Over's Nate Wells. He walks us through The Pour Over's process and pa...

"This isn't just a general statement about God working out good and redeeming all things (which he is doing)...Our verse is very specific. In your trials, in your hardship, in your pain, you can know that in all things—even those things—that God is working them for good because you love him and you've been called according to his purpose." 

— Natalie Abbott

Today's episode: Natalie Abbott walks us through Rom...

"We need a more sustainable way of living, right? This means that we can keep up with God, even when we're tempted to numb out and be overwhelmed by all the things in life." 

— Tara Sun

Today's Episode: Join Natalie Abbott and Tara Sun as they dive into the challenges of managing burnout and finding a sustainable way of living out our calling in Christ. They explore how to live out our faith authentically, even am...

"Every good work, every good deed, every good thought, every good word, everything I have, it all comes from God and goes back to God for His glory and kingdom so that others might know who He is and decide, 'I'm going to follow this Jesus too.'" 

— Vera Schmitz

Today's Episode: Natalie and Vera dive into the profound impact of living every moment for Jesus. They explore how even the most mundane task ca...

"I said, 'God, I'm going to give two years to this. I'm going to dive into the Word. I'm going to study it as deeply as I can. And I need you to show up...' My whole life changed. I no longer thought the way I used to. I no longer had the same desires. I spoke differently."

—Zach Windahl 

Today's Episode: Listen in as Natalie chats with Zach Windahl about the responsibility, the privilege, and ...

"We are called to live lives that reflect [Jesus]...It's not a chore, it's a choice. It's a freedom and a joy and an honor...You can be who you are, truly and fully, in Christ."

— Natalie Abbott

Today's episode: Natalie Abbott walks us through Colossians 3:1-17, explaining who we are in Christ, who we used to be, and how that changes everything! She helps us understand the two selves that war inside of i...

"God is the one who refreshes us. He is the one who fills us up." 

— Natalie Abbott

Today's episode: We all need to be filled up by Jesus before we can pour out anything. In today's episode, we're going to discover what true soul rest looks like. Vera and Natalie are discussing the difference between superficial rest and the soul rest of Christ, how we receive rest, and how we can experience rest ev...

"A lifestyle of generosity is us just simply saying, 'I want in on the game, Jesus! Let's do this together!"

— Adrienne Camp

Today's Episode: Listen in as Natalie chats with Adrienne Camp about all the ins and outs of generous living. You'll be inspired by beautiful stories of how Adrienne has experienced the generosity of others. She makes connections about how our generosity is a reflection of our gene...

"Never undervalue what you bring. Take time to think about all the ways you can be generous—your time, your possessions, how you use your home—there are just so many ways to give."

— Vera Schmitz

Today's Episode: Vera and Natalie are talking about refreshing others and being refreshed in ways only two sisters could. Laugh along as they discuss what kind of "refreshment" they each would be (Vera's an espr...

"I kept thinking, 'Okay. What does God want me to do for others? What am I offering others? What am I giving to others?' And again and again, the things I felt called to do or make or create or tend would literally refresh me."

— Christie Purifoy

Today's Episode: This episode is an absolute joy! We're so grateful to Christie Purifoy for sharing her wise insights into generous living and openhanded receiv...