Episode 418: 🍳 Cooking Up ERP Success with the Business Central Community 🍦

In this lively episode of Dynamics Corner, hosts Kris and Brad sit down with Chris Warren to discuss his intriguing journey from electrical engineering to mastering ERP systems like Business Central and Community Summit. They explore how Chris's passion for cooking reflects the creativity and discipline essential for professional growth in the ERP landscape, especially when making homemade ice cream. 
The trio delves into Business Central's intricacies, sharing practical tips on inventory management and the do's and don'ts of customization. They emphasize the importance of mastering the fundamentals, which can be a game-changer in the ERP world. With the Summit Conference on the horizon, they highlight the necessity of attending community events for networking and skill enhancement.
From avoiding technical debt to evaluating cloud vs. on-premises solutions, this episode offers valuable insights, humor, and a touch of food-inspired wisdom for anyone navigating the ERP landscape.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, I'll give you a call from my desk anyway.
Okay, cool, I was going to saysomething funny, you can.
Welcome everyone to anotherepisode of Dynamics Corner Brad,
do you know there is roughly1.3 million Christopher's in the

(00:23):
United States?
I'm your co-host, Chris.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
And this is Brad.
This episode was recorded onMarch 24th 2025.
Chris, chris, chris.
1.3 million Chris's in theUnited States that's a lot 28th
most popular name.
Really, what's the first mostpopular name?
I have no clue, bob we'll haveto look that up and if anybody

(00:48):
looks at that, please share withus.
With us today, we had theopportunity to learn about large
numbers.
We also had the opportunity tolearn about community summit and
also some tips of what not todo in business central.
With us today, we had theopportunity speak with Chris
Warren in Business Central Withus today.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
we had the opportunity to speak with Chris
Warren.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Hey, Chris, hey, good morning sir, hey good morning
guys, how?

Speaker 1 (01:24):
are y'all Say that again.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
I'm talking to myself .

Speaker 3 (01:29):
It's all good there, you go Cool, y'all can hear me,
okay, right.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Y'all, I say y'all.
Now I sent a text message to my.
We have a family group chat andwe talking about something and
my I said I said something to myfamily.
I said y'all don't know aboutthis.
So I said my brother said, oh,he's a true Southerner now,
cause now he threw out his firsty'all.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Everyone's going country man.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
I've always loved Well, I've loved country music
for many years, but now I'mstarting to pick up some of the
lingo.
I like it.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Well, y'all started y'all's a good term to uh start
using uh.
It was funny, I actually had myuh.
My previous boss told me he waslike you can't use y'all in
company emails and I was likeafter that I made it a point to
use y'all as much as I could inevery single company email that
I sent.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Are you a rebel?
Depends on how you want to lookat it.
Don't tell me what I can't do.
So do you know?
I love ice cream.
I'm super excited for breakfast.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
No, no, I love ice cream.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, there's nothing like New England ice cream.
Because new England ice creamstands, I realized.
In the rest of the country youhave ice cream shops.
You don't have ice cream when Icall ice cream stands.
So you go to small farm area.
I don't know where you are,chris, I know you're out in the
backwoods too, but I don't knowif they have them up in your
part of the country.
But I of a new england thingwhere you go to the small ice

(03:02):
cream stand and it's usuallyhomemade ice cream and you get
like a homemade waffle cone andsome great ice cream and it's
not chains, it's typicallyfamily run and I had ice cream.
I was back last week and I hadice cream every day.
I think one day I had ice creamtwice and I'm talking a big
waffle cone with the variousflavors and I always get a

(03:25):
topping yeah, it's funny thatyou bring up ice cream.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Um, my wife is actually in houston right now
and she went to the bluebellfactory.
Um, she went and did some 5kthere and she actually got.
This is at like I don't know,this is like eight o'clock in

(03:49):
the morning and she, uh, she wasable to get a picture with uh,
with the actual originalbluebell truck, oh wow so
bluebell I've never heard ofBluebell before.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
It must be.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Bluebell, I don't know.
I don't know where they'reoriginated, but yeah, I don't
know.
That's my wife's favorite icecream.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
I thought you were going to say that you're making
your own ice cream because youhave a farm.
This is where I was going withthis, because I don't the
store-bought ice cream.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
I don't the store bought ice cream.
I don't like the store boughtice cream.
If I buy anything at the store,I'll get the Tillamook or
whatever it is what is itTillamook, tillamook.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
That's the only ice cream.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
I buy at the store.
I bought an ice cream maker,yeah.
It came in yesterday and I notyesterday.
It came in over the weekend andI mixed up two batches of
vanilla ice cream Today.
I wish it was ready because Iwould do it now, but today or
tonight I'm going to try myfirst ice cream.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
I got the Ninja that does the soft serve.
Is it the slushy, or which onedid you get?

Speaker 2 (04:59):
I got the Ninja Creamer.
Oh, the creamy, yes, so it hasthe soft serve and you could do
the scoop the hard.
So I'm going to try soft serveand I'm going to try the hard.
I did just vanilla because Iit's like pizza, you have to
start at the base.
If I can get vanilla down, I'llprobably never go to the ice

(05:19):
cream store again.
And chris, just watch out.
Well, you're both chris, butyou can both watch out.
This guy's going to gain Chris,but you can both watch out.
This guy's going to gain somepounds.
Because if I can make my ownice cream like the ice cream
stands back home, forget it.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Well, at least you know what's in this ice cream
because you're making it.
Because we did the same thing.
We were making our own icecream and the problem I had with
it was we made too much.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
And so you can't have too much ice cream.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
That's impossible, you know ice cream, you know,
but at least you'll know what's,you know what you're putting in
it.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
I think that's important I was thinking of
getting extra containers so thatI can have more in the freezer,
but the way that it works nowit's better off with what it is,
because it will control what Ieat.
I told you I had ice creamtwice in one day and I'm not
talking like a little bit.
I had lunch and then I went tothe ice cream stand, then I had
dinner and I went to another icecream stand.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
So but I think it's the process that makes it very
interesting, because then it'snot.
You're not just buying it nowand then just like, oh, I'm just
eating it Now.
You get to appreciate theprocess.
I mean, that's no different ofme making sourdough bread right
now.
You know, I'm making my starterand then going through that
process, and it's a lengthyprocess.
So I'm sure ice cream is goingto be the same thing.

(06:33):
It's a process.
Well, yeah, it depends.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Listen, I did vanilla , I just mixed it up.
But if you start hearing metalking about waffle cones, you
know it's all over.
If I'm making my own because Iwas spoiled, because last week I
also went to a great barbecueplace.
But I always say back homeChris knows what I mean.
It was a great barbecue place,but now that I smoke food that I
smoke just about every day Icouldn't eat their food like it,
just didn't like.

(06:56):
It used to be amazing to me.
I'm not saying it was bad, it'sjust.
I've become accustomed to myown food and my own taste, so
now I prefer to eat pizza.
You criticize food more.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
I don't know if that's happened to you yet where
you like order a barbecue oreven like whatever ribs or pork
belly, and then you order it andyou spend like $15 for like
four pieces and you're like Icould make a whole bunch more
for cheaper and it tastes muchbetter.
$15 for four pieces I couldmake a whole bunch more for
cheaper and it tastes muchbetter.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
$15?
.
Where are you getting this from?

Speaker 1 (07:31):
When I go out to eat to any barbecue place, it's like
$30 per person.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
It's way more expensive down here.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Well, going out to eat is different than at home
Going out to eat.
I do enjoy going out to eatbecause I like the experience
Oftentimes.
Oftentimes, I'll pick a placethat has a nice scenery and I I
like to try different things.
And also, if you're going withsomebody, you can step away from
home and not have the homeobligations or the home things
on your mind and you can getaway.
But once, chris, like you weresaying, once you have your own

(08:01):
food, it's great.
And then, when you, when youstart seeing also because I do
the same thing I'm like I canbuy two racks of ribs for this.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Absolutely If.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
I just made this with the smoked sweet potatoes, with
the smoked broccoli and allthis.
I'm like this would have costlike $3,000.
Yep, no, but you get your owntaste and, like I said, it's
nothing bad about the barbecueplace, because it used to be my
favorite barbecue place backhome and I just now am spoiled

(08:30):
because I've become accustomedto my way of making food.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
well, yeah, well, you , you, yeah, you talked about
cooking at home.
Um, yeah, you know, since Imoved out here to this, this
little farm that I have, um,it's funny because, uh, one of
the very first purchases that Idid was I ordered over 200
pounds of charcoal and wasdelivered via forklift to my
front door.
And I was at work when ithappened and my wife was like

(08:58):
what is being delivered to ourhouse right now?
And I was like, oh sorry, Iforgot to tell you I ordered a
bunch of charcoal.
But you know, I mean, yeah, itis, it's just so much easier and
everything tastes better whenyou cook it at home.
Here, it's not even worth goingout?

Speaker 2 (09:17):
It is.
It isn't in a sense, because ifyou have the proper location,
it's nice to just sit in thebackyard, smoke some food and I
smoke everything now.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
It is funny because when you say smoke, you're
smoking every day.
It's not that kind of smoking,right?
No, I don't.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
I'm not, I don't smoke no no, no, absolutely.
Yes, smoking food.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
I smoke food nearly every day, so I will say you
have to be very careful whenyou're in work meetings and you
say you're smoking meat, becauseoftentimes people say think
that you're smoking weed asopposed to smoking meat.
I'll never forget, like one ofthe first times I was at this
company I was, I was in ameeting.

(09:58):
I was like what did you do thisweekend?
And you know I was like, oh man, I was like like I smoked a
bunch of meat over the weekendand you know I went on for like
five or ten minutes talkingabout it and literally
afterwards my boss pulled measide.
She was like why were youtalking about smoking weed in
the meeting?
And I was like what do you mean?
I was talking about meat.
And he was like, oh, he's likeeveryone thought you said weed

(10:21):
and not meat oh yeah, man.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, it's good clarification and I get to talk.
We have several individualsthat also enjoy smoking meat, so
we have some good conversationsabout different recipes.
My next one that I want to do Ilove smoked bacon.
I love smoked pork.
I love smoked mac and cheese.
I've been doing it.
I'm going to make smoked bacon,pork, smoked mac and cheese.

(10:46):
I've been doing it.
I'm going to make smoked bacon,pork, mac and cheese.
Oh, that's a good combination.
Man, that is a great.
Put a nice crust on top.
That's my next thing I'll make.
I'll have to see when I canmake that.
Maybe I'll try to make it thisupcoming weekend.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Have you ever rolled a fatty?

Speaker 1 (11:04):
I'm assuming you're referring to a pork roll.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
The council has advised me that answering that
question would violate therights granted to me.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
No, really though.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
The Constitution of the United States.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Therefore, I respectfully decline to answer
that question.
Next question, please.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
It's a crosshatch of bacon, ground sausage, and then
you throw in some potatoesinside of it as well, some eggs,
some cheese.
Then you roll it all up andthen you smoke it for like six
hours.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yep, I will tell you, there isn't one person that I
know that I think, if you saidare you going to smoke a fatty,
that they would think of whatyou just talked about, just to
let you know.
But we didn't get here today totalk about food, as much as I
would love to talk about food.
I'll have to follow up witheveryone about my ice cream
adventures.
I am super excited to have thatthis evening and, chris, maybe

(11:53):
I'll take pictures and send itto you you'll see, I was
thinking of putting in somereese's, but that's not why
we're here together today.
Uh, mr chris, would you mindtelling us a little bit about
yourself?

Speaker 3 (12:04):
sure, um.
So my name is chris warren, um,I work for a medical device
manufacturer and, um, Iinherited our nav environment
back in 2018.
I want to say, um, I am notreally in the it field by degree

(12:25):
.
Um, I actually got my my degreein electional engineering.
But, um, we had some turnoverat a company way back when and,
um, my CEO came up to me one dayand he literally just said, hey
, he was like what do you knowabout ERP systems?
And I was like absolutelynothing.
And he was like, well, great,you're going gonna learn about
nav um.

(12:47):
And so I ended up, uh, takingover our nav system, uh, kind of
you know, understanding how itimpacted our business.
And, um, you know, I got tokind of figure out you know how
each part was using it.
Um, it really wasn't optimizedfor our business process.
So I spent the last few years,you know, going through and
making sure that it reallyaligned with you know how things

(13:11):
were operating at the company.
And then my big thing that I'vealways been passionate about is
getting current and stayingcurrent.
So I actually took our NAV 2017environment.
We went from NAV 2017 to BC 20,21, 22, 23.
And now we're actually on trackto go to SAS later this year,

(13:34):
so Excellent, yeah, my, my, mybig thing is really, you know, I
just I love business central, Ilove NAV and I like staying
current.
So you know, I've really justkind of made that my passion
over the last few years.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Excellent, and one thing that's amazing about
Business Central is thecommunity that we have, and you
also do quite a bit for thecommunity and we all know about
that.
Can you tell us a little bitabout your role and your
contributions to the community?

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yeah.
So back in back, when I tookover our nav environment, our
partner had actually recognizedor had recommended that we go to
summit to kind of learn aboutbusiness central and get some
training there.
So I went ahead and went tosummit in 2018 with about five
of my other coworkers, summit in2018 with about five of my

(14:29):
other co-workers, and every yearsince that year I went to
summit.
I've actually gone back andspoken and taught classes about
that as well.
I just felt lessons learned,things I've been doing with our
nav environment, and in 2023,2023, 22, 23, I actually became

(14:53):
a member of the Business CentralBoard of Advisors through
Dynamics Communities.
So I've I've always made it apoint to try to give back where
I can and just, you know, talkabout things I've learned about
and.
But yeah.
Excellent.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Congrats.
You're doing some great, greatthings.
You're chairing the board ofadvisors, if I stand correct
that is correct.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
Yeah, so back in.
My first role was the um Ithink digital marketing or
something along those lines onthe board and um.
This last year, starting injanuary, I became the chair for
the board.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Excellent.
You're doing a great job withthat too.
It is important to give back.
I found as I'm getting older Isee the value, more so maybe
than when I was younger, when Iwas charging through life,
everything and you know, justcoming back and even seeing just
to help somebody, or or helpsomebody solve an issue that

(15:47):
they're having, or help somebodycome up with a decision, or
even just help somebody ingeneral and just share some
knowledge, and it is also atwo-way street.
I learn a lot by doing so,doing it this way as well, from
others so I commend you have achair there, chris, because
that's a lot of work.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
I I think people don't realize how much work it
gets put together and so putting, you know, putting,
volunteering your time to helpkind of facilitate all of that
so that the rest of thecommunity can take advantage of
all the education and, and youknow, leading up to Summit it's
a lot of work.

(16:23):
So we do appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Well, thanks.
Yeah, you know it's definitelya lot of fun.
You know it's to me it doesn'treally seem like work.
You know I, like I said before,I didn't know anything about
ERP systems back when I startedthis role and now that I know
what I know, now you know Ireally have to just look back
and say that you know, I learnedeverything I did from the

(16:46):
community that I'm now, you know, helping foster.
You know, if it wasn't forDynamics Communities I don't,
there is no way I would know asmuch as I do now and I wouldn't
have been able to meet, you know, such great people like you
know both you and Brad as well.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
No, I appreciate that .
I do want to plug in a littlebit on here.
You know, you know working onsummit and putting a.
You know the committee workingwith the committee and such.
I do want to put a little bitof plug.
They are bringing in I knowyou're helping with this too,
chris is the local user groupchapters.
So you can have your littlechapter community within your uh

(17:28):
, within your area, within yourcity.
So if you are interested, theycan, you know, they can
certainly reach out.
Reach out to you, right, chris?
and anybody else we need thoseback.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
No, I but it is it's.
The support groups in personare important.
I know's a lot of informationonline, but there's something
about getting together withindividuals and sharing
information.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
I also love how you called it a support group and
not like a local committee orsomething like that, because
sometimes it really does feellike a support group.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Well, as Chris had mentioned, he was getting into
it.
It does take a lot of work, soI was hoping to get a little
behind the scenes of what ittakes to maybe put together or
plan some of these events.
Chris, you mentioned the localuser groups.
You have the roadshows.
These are all part of the Boardof Advisors and the various
committees for DynamicsCommunities for that section of

(18:22):
business central and it's notdynamics communities pushing
this.
They they work with and theysponsor and they support the
operation, but it's all run byvolunteers such as yourself on
the board and the programcommittees and all the local
committees to do it.
So when it comes to some ofthis, I know some of these
events individuals think thatthey just materialize and you

(18:43):
come up and and, okay, we haveall this information here about
Business Central and we'retalking about that.
When it comes to CommunitySummit and the roadshows and
also now, as Chris had mentioned, everyone's looking to start up
the local user groups to giveadditional support.
When do individuals startplanning the Business Central
portion of Summit?

Speaker 3 (19:06):
Yeah, so I mean, when you talk about summit, it's
funny because the actualplanning portion of next year's
summit starts literally the dayafter that summit ends.
And you know everybody goes to,you know summit, at whatever
location it is.
And you know, while most peopleare there just to gain

(19:38):
knowledge, you know people thatare members of the programming
committee are there and they'reanalyzing every single aspect of
that particular conference.
They are trying to figure outwhat's working, what's not
working, how can we make thisbetter for next year, are trying
to figure out what's working,what's not working, how can we
make this better for next year.
And you know, within, I wouldsay within seven days of the
conference ending, we arealready putting together, you

(19:59):
know, committees to try tofigure out okay, how can we make
next year even better than whatthis year was.
So you know, when people go tothese conferences, I don't, like
you said, I don't think peoplerealize how much planning goes
into this, how much thought goesinto it from all these local
volunteers, you know, throughoutthe community and with that.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
How so the planning starts, what's involved with the
planning, how many individualsinvolved in the planning and
what goes into it.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Oh, man of the planning and what goes into it.
Oh man, our programmingcommittee.
This year I think we have Idon't know what probably over 20
, 25 members on it, easily, youknow.
And when people think aboutwhat goes into this, I mean we
have to figure out, you know,how many sessions are we allowed
to have at the conference?
How many rooms are we allowedto have?

(20:48):
You know, are we covering allthe topics in Business Central?
You know that that people wantto learn about, you know,
there's there's just so muchthat goes into it that I don't
think people realize behind thescenes.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
No, it is, it sounds like, and there's a lot of
people 25 people to go throughthe programming committee, to go
through all those submissions,which is yeah, there's.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
There's so many different tracks too.
I mean, if you think about it,I mean Business Central is much
more than just a standard quoteunquote ERP system.
You know?
I mean you have finance, youhave supply chain, you have
manufacturing, you have, youknow, all these different
modules in there and you have tofind subject matter experts.
You know, within every singleportion of this, to try to get

(21:33):
them to submit sessions, just sothat way they can share their
knowledge with you.
Know all these people that aretrying to learn about Business
Central, and how do the tracksget determined?

Speaker 2 (21:44):
You had mentioned there's a lot of various tracks,
so there's many tracks.
It's um, it's my first dayspeaking.
There are many tracks withinthe uh uh uh business central
portion of community summit.
How did the tracks get chosen?

Speaker 3 (21:59):
Yeah, so, each of those tracks, uh.
So, like I mentioned, you knowthere's all these different
modules within business centralbut, um, from the programming
standpoint of this, you know wehave um a lot of different
individuals that are able todetermine.
You know what sessions arechosen for each of those tracks.
You know, and they fall withinthe, you know, right now, the um

(22:30):
, these sessions or the um callfor speakers, is open through
the end of the month, so throughMarch 31st, uh, and so, as
people submit sessions, um,depending on which track that
they're going to, uh, each ofthose sessions is going to then
be forwarded to those trackleaders and you know they have
to go through each of thosesessions to determine if you

(22:55):
know if that's a good fit forthem and making sure that
they're covering all the baseswithin you know, the different
tracks that they're in charge of.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
That sounds like a challenging task with the number
of submissions that aresubmitted.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Well, the tracks are growing too right.
So it's not just the modulesitself, but then you have all
the related technologies aroundbusiness central, because you,
you want anybody that you knoworganization sending people out
not only learning about businesscentral, but it's also its
possibilities and capabilitiesof extending beyond the ERP.

(23:34):
So I know you have some tracksand the other application, but
that is a very difficult balanceputting all of this together as
people submit throughout thenext few months here.
I think that's important to toconsider.
So hopefully we, hopefully wecan get a lot of, uh, some

(23:56):
submissions to go throughwhoever's in the programming
community side of that.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
You know, I, I, I thank you for going through all
those tracks, uh I'm not, uh,just because I'm chair, so I do
get involved with a lot of thedifferent things, but I'm not
technically on the programmingcommittee.
Chris or Brett, are either oneof you guys on the programming
committee?

Speaker 2 (24:22):
I am this year again so how's that going for?
you it's going well.
I mean, we just started rampingup, as you say, because the
call for speakers is still open,so all of the sessions haven't
been submitted.
I know myself I have a few thatI'm going to submit.
So there's still time left andI know a lot of individuals I've

(24:43):
been speaking with are stilltrying to formulate what they
would like to present or whatthey would like to submit to
present, what they would like topresent or what they would like
to submit to present.
But it'll get pretty busy afterthe call for speakers is done
because this year I think thedeadline for the programming
committee to submit theirselection for the sessions that

(25:04):
were submitted, I think, is theend of April I get confused with
a lot of these dates so thatthey can have it published for
May, so those that are lookingto attend the conference in
October can see and start toplan their visit to Orlando.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
What do you think is going to be the most talked
about topic this year around?

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Gee, I don't know, but I hope it's not.
Go on, go ahead, ahead, say theword.
I, I know I don't want to.
I'd like to go through oneepisode or one day without
hearing the word, and it's.
And it's not because I don'tbelieve and it's not because I
don't like it.
I think that there's so muchmore to life than that and I'm

(25:49):
waiting for the, the limelightor spotlight.
Jeez, I'm going to have to stopme over today.
I'm waiting for the spotlightto take off as AI and co-pilot
oh, you said it.
But also with that, if you lookat it from the submission point
of view, if everybody submitsco-pilot and AI topics, it

(26:10):
becomes more challenging to pickand have a variety.
So those traditional what I'llcall traditional type sessions
are also extremely importantbecause at this point, co-pilot
isn't or hasn't taken over theworld and it hasn't achieved the
status of being able to doeverything for everybody.

(26:31):
So people still do need tounderstand the functionality,
people still do need to dofunctions, maybe use Copilot as
a tool to do their job and whatthey need to produce with output
for their workplace.
Those other sessions are stillextremely important.
So it will be challenging, Iknow, going through the sessions

(26:51):
and rank them is a little bitchallenging because there's a
lot to go through.
There are a lot of duplicatesand I don't mean duplicates this
verbatim but sometimes there'sduplicate topics that have
similarities.
So we have to sometimesdetermine what's the best way to
manage and work with those andthen sometimes we'll take if
there are two sessions that aresubmitted that are similar,

(27:14):
we'll talk with the twopresenters to see if they'd like
to co-present, because it givesthem both the opportunity to
present the session that they'repassionate about or the topic
that they're passionate about,as well as give maybe a
different dynamic to those thatare attending the sessions,
because you can get twodifferent perspectives in some
cases for the same topic.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yeah, you know, you know it's interesting though,
though and, chris, I would liketo hear your perspective on this
.
I know Business Central iscontinually having new features
and things you can do with it.
For all of us in this, we'rehaving this conversation.
We've been in the ERP space forquite some time now and, at
least for me, I tend to forgetthat we have to have sessions

(27:52):
for even the fundamentals,because we know that the
Business Central ERP continuesto grow.
We're going to have new peoplestarting their journey in
Business Central, so they haveto have those fundamental
sessions as well, and so I thinkfor me that was my biggest
focus in submitting my sessionsis all going back to the
fundamentals of Business Central, not just the features.

(28:15):
So, chris, from yourperspective you coming in,
coming from NAB to BusinessCentral is there still an
opportunity like, hey, we shouldlearn about these basic things
of like you know how do you setup workflow out of the box
business central?
You don't need, maybe you don'tneed power automate and things
like that.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
Yeah.
So you know that's kind ofreally what I've done over the
last like seven or eight yearsat this point is just trying to
educate my company to say, heylook, this is what the system
can do out of the box.
We don't necessarily need anadd on, we don't need, you know,
customizations, like we don'tneed any of that.
You know just reallyunderstanding what the core of

(28:59):
Business Central is.
You know, before making youknow huge business decisions is,
I think, critical to deployingyour ERP system and you know
getting the full use out of it.
You know because you know likesystem and you know getting the
full use out of it.
You know because you know, likeyou mentioned, you know those
sessions about the.
You know the bare bones, thebasics about NAV and Business

(29:22):
Central are really critical forpeople to learn.
You know about the system thatthey purchased, about the system
that they purchased, and Ithink oftentimes it can get
overlooked.
You know when you go to Summitbecause people want to really
focus on, you know, copilot, orthey want to focus on Power
Automate or you know focus onall these other different

(29:43):
aspects of Business Central.
But I think a lot of timespeople do forget you know the
core of the system, you knowabout what it can do.
So I agree with you with thefact that you know these
sessions are very important.
To make sure that you knowthey're still there.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Yeah, certainly Like for you know, a perfect example.
It's like cash receipt journal.
You know, I was working with anorganization where you know
they needed to go through thecash receipt journal and in my
mind, after hearing them needingto learn, I was like how do you
not know this?
You know they have to pause andit's like wait, wait, hold on.

(30:20):
I know how to do this, butthese organizations are just
starting their journey andthey're learning.
They're UIT, they're in themiddle of their UIT and so they
have to learn those.
So we, as consultants, we haveto step back and say, okay, I
can't make that assumption,because there's a ton of people
just starting their businesscentral journey, so we just have

(30:43):
to at least I have to remindmyself every day.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
That's an extremely important point that you make
because everybody's startingsome, everyone's at a different
point in their journey.
So all of that information isimportant and to have the
opportunity again if you'resomebody that's new to like you
mentioned, if somebody that maybe new to the application or
considering the application tojump in it to see the basics
sometimes is important Becausethat's the foundation of what's

(31:08):
going to drive yourimplementation, because that's
the foundation of what's goingto drive your implementation.
I know I talk with many who liketo share content and do all
these other types of events andthey try to focus on the most
complex and the hardest, I guessyou could say, where sometimes
you can't forget the basics,because with the application
growing, in my opinion I'mfinding more and more people are
newer to the application.

(31:29):
I'm not taking away from thosethat have been using it a long
time, those advanced, and I'mnot saying that's not important.
But if we don't have any ofthat content, like you're saying
, it's a challenge for those toget into it and grow into it and
learn how to use it properly,because they're jumping into it
thinking copilot would doeverything for them yeah,
exactly so.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Ch do you think you know, because you had mentioned
in your journey of NAV toBusiness Central and joining or
attending Summit, do you believethat organizations that are
still in NAV or other ERPsystems should go to Summit

(32:08):
before you know, maybe beforethey're going into the Business
Central project or starting theBusiness Central project?
Do you think it's a benefit forthem to attend before, or
certainly even after?
Right, like, what can you getout of the most out of your
Business Central?
Was that a critical componentfor you?
Or you know, joining Summit orattending Summit?

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Yeah, you know that's such a great question, you know
, and it's funny.
So I talk to a lot of differentpeople.
You know about our Microsoftjourney, whether it's, you know,
just optimizing our path systemor going from now to Business
Central, and I can accreditevery single thing that I have

(32:52):
learned back to summit.
Um, and you know, and that's mynumber one, uh, recommendation
to anybody who is either usingnav or business central, or
either going from nav to bc orgoing from bc on-prem to bc
cloud go to summit, because youdon.
You don't necessarily you don'tknow what you don't know, right

(33:15):
, and the easiest way to figurethat out is to go to Summit.
Attend as many sessions as youcan and you will end up learning
way more about Business Centraland NAV than you thought was
even possible.
So, yeah, 100%, I definitelyrecommend that if you're even
considering any sort ofoptimization for your system,

(33:39):
you're trying to upgrade or doanything like that, you
definitely need to go to Summit,just because you need to learn
as much as you can, and withoutactually attending, you're
probably missing out on a lot ofthe feature set that the system
offers that you didn't evenknow was there.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Yeah, and I think it's also a good opportunity to
speak to others that maybealready have gone through that
journey of going to BusinessCentral and they are in a
similar space or similarindustry as you.
It's also a good opportunity toask how did they do it?
Or maybe a process that you'redoing now in NAV in your current

(34:18):
state, how do you do that inBusiness Central?
So the good, perfect place toask those questions, so that
you're minimizing that risk orfalling into that cycle of
things not working because youthought it was supposed to work
this way.
And so a good call out there,chris.

(34:39):
I mean making sure that that'spart of your investment, maybe
part of your budget, on theproject of sending people out to
these conferences, for sure ofsending people out to these
conferences for sure.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
Yeah, I always joke that I could write, or I could
have a session at Summit everysingle year on 101 ways of how
to not use Business Central orhow to not use Nav.
You can do it.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
I think that would be a great session.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
You still have time.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
We still have time for you to submit that, but I
think you should submit thatExtremely important to have 101
ways not to use Business Centralor 101 pitfalls.
I wish I would have known.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
Yeah, yeah, it's definitely.
It's funny.
If you don't understand thesystem, there are a lot of ways
that you can misutilize it.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
How hard can it be?
It's my favorite question.
How hard can it be?
It's my favorite question.
How hard can it be?
I said uh well, I'm stillworking on that, so yeah well,
you mentioned that 101 ways hownot to use business central.
Can you share a couple of yourhow we're going to twist this?

Speaker 3 (35:49):
chris, you're coming next you have time to think
about it.
Please do not ever utilize bothlot number and serial tracking
at the exact same time for thesame item.
I I I don't understand why wedid this or what the thought
behind it was, but having tochoose both a lot and serial
number for the same item isinsane, because if you think

(36:10):
about it right you you'regetting the same information
from either the lot number orthe serial number.
Why are we doing both?

Speaker 2 (36:21):
And so I can't even think of a scenario where I'd
want to do that.
Either because you're stillgetting the traffic, because
serial number, you could say,well, you want the serial number
within the lot, so you knowwhich.
Because serial number, youcould say, well, you want the
serial number within the lot, soyou know which lot the serial
number came from.
But if you're already doing itserialized, you already have it
because it's specific inventoryRight, exactly.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
And so it used to take our quality department like
three or four hours to createone production order.
So we're a medical devicemanufacturer so we have to keep
up with the lots and serials ofeverything that we produce and
also consume that goes into thatfinished good.
But you know, just because wewould produce, you know, 100,

(36:57):
200 items at a time, they wouldhave to manually go through,
select every single serialnumber and the lot number that
was associated with that serialnumber.
And within the first few monthsof me taking over our nav
instance, I was like why are wedoing this?
And nobody could give me ananswer.
So to me that's just my biggestYou've always done it that way,

(37:18):
right, exactly.
So that's the thing.
It's always been done that way,so why should we change it?

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah, that's an interesting one.
I mean, I understand withmedical devices it's extremely
important to track the contentsand the output of the devices
for health reasons, but you'restill getting the same
information Exactly.
You know which lot it came inor the serial number.
You'll know everything.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
You'll know more about the item if it's
serialized versus within a lotAnytime anything came in with a
lot number or a serial number,for whatever reason.
The original team that deployedour nav, instance, they thought
just because the informationcame in we had to put it into
the system.
I don't really know why youwould need to do that.

(38:03):
So anything from like AAbatteries to screws, to nuts, to
washers, like, just because ithad a lot number, they thought
we had a lot in serial track, itin the system too.
And so you can imagine, youknow, on a standard, you know,
just think of anything that youhave sitting around your desk,
like there's probably what,anywhere between like 10 to 15

(38:25):
screws in it, you know, holdingit together.
Can you imagine how the serialtrack every single nut, washer,
bolt, screw that's in everysingle one of your devices when
you're trying to manufacture it?
No, yeah, so anyway, that'sdefinitely going to go on my
list of 101 ways of how to notuse Business Central.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Do you have another way not to use business central?

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Uh, you know, yeah, okay.
So, uh, print.
I don't know how y'all feelabout printers.
I mean, y'all are somewhat inthe IT space, right?
Um, for whatever reason,everybody at the company thought
that we needed to print everysingle transaction out that we
did.
So you post an item journal youhave to print it.
You post you know a purchaseorder you have to print it.

(39:15):
You post a sales order you haveto print it.
And so, like we literally justhave books and our binders full
of printed receipts out ofBusiness Central for literally
no reason, when, if you thinkabout it, all that information
is stored within businesscentral and just because you're
printing, it doesn't reallyprove anything right.

(39:36):
I mean, I could go back behindyou and reverse that transaction
or post you know an inverseitem journal or something like
that.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
So printing things doesn't really doesn't really
prove anything right now come tothink about it you know when,
when, when I remember working inend user as a director of IT,
the first thing I did was killoff the contracts of all the
printing company or printdevices that we would contract

(40:04):
out.
So I cut that and says no, wedon't need printers, even if you
wanted to print it.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
You could go to PDF.
I know early on I've gonethrough some implementations.
They wanted to print things toprove it was working the way
they wanted to Doesn't mean itbecomes part of your process,
it's just I post an item journal, I want the output so I could
validate that the transactionsare posting properly, they look
proper.
But doing it forever I don'teven think anyone would go in

(40:35):
and look at those again, becauseeven how would you find it?
You know if you have thousandsof transactions, okay, I need
that paper right there.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
Yeah, it's funny, we're working on consolidating
locations right now,consolidating locations right
now and, uh, we have probably Idon't know like over like 20, 30
file cabinets full of printedbusiness central transactions
and I was talking to my boss andI was like I don't even know,
like what you, what do you dowith these?
Because, like you said, likeyou can't go back to, like find
them right, like how do you evenlocate the record that you're

(41:06):
looking for.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
I'd recycle them, them.
Save some trees, stop themthinking.
Mr Chris Rieras, do you haveany of the 101 ways not to use
Business Central?
We're just totally twistingthis right here.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Yeah, yeah, no, you are, I think, one of the most
common ones.
That frustrates me the mostit's not just someone coming
from NAV that frustrates me themost, it's not just someone
coming from NAV, I mean, itcould be any other ERP system is
when they have the descriptionof the items part of the item
number.
And I remember coming into aproject where I think this was

(41:48):
even some in BC.
Which is weird is they broughtthose over and it just annoyed
the crap out of me.
Because here's the thing Peopledon't realize that you have an
item number that has adescription or maybe even a
color of something.
Do you maybe be more efficientwith your items or how many do

(42:25):
you need to buy?
It's very difficult becausethen they have to maintain six
different items of technicallythe same item, maybe slightly
different color, right, or maybea description, or maybe it's a
variant.
So, rather than using a variant, in Business Central they made
it part of the description orthe item number, and that's very

(42:46):
annoying because then you losethe traceability of analyzing
that.
So, for example, if you'reusing like demand planning tool,
you're no longer just payingattention to one item, you're
paying attention to six items,and that continues to grow.
I've seen one item and there's10 different item numbers for
technically the same thing.

(43:07):
So that is not what not to dowhen you're moving to Business
Central.
Use the other tools or use theother parts of Business Central
to accommodate that.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
And that's how I worked with someone that had 1.8
million items.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
I'm not even joking.
They had 1.8 million items.
I said how do you even do that,Like, how do you even manage
that?
I'm not even kidding.
They had over a million items.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
Yeah, so we have something similar and I wish our
company understood how all thefunctions and nav worked at the
time we went live with it.
We still have one medicaldevice, but we have separate
part numbers for every singlelanguage that we ship to, which

(43:53):
is a huge issue because there'sno difference in the bombs right
Like it's literally it's theexact same item.
There is no difference in thebombs right like it's literally,
it's the exact same item.
There is no difference in themanufacturing process, it's just
the different language thatgets loaded on the system.
So if we had learned aboutvariants way back when, then we
wouldn't need to have, you know,30 different part numbers for
the same product, which makesyou one of those, chris yes, I

(44:18):
am one of those, and at pointit's too late to change it, but
I will say it's very common.
That is very common, yeah, andso it's insane Because, like you
said, though, it makesreporting virtually impossible,
because how in the world am Igoing to be able to do you know
MRP, for example, when you knowI have 30 different item numbers

(44:40):
for the exact same product?
Right it just it makesreporting so difficult.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Yeah, you lose trends and you lose the ability to use
you know, uh uh forecasting,because now you have different
histories of technically thesame item, but then you got to
consider different histories.
Just managing that is just mindboggling.
It's a technical debt that youdon't want.
I would say that Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
Thankfully for where we're working on our next
generation product right now.
And so I told them from thevery from the get go.
I said, look, we have to makethis work how business central
functions.
I was like we are not going tohave 100 different item numbers
for all these differentlanguages and things like that.
So you know, once you get thathistory and once you understand

(45:27):
how the system works, you knowmoving forward it works well.
But you know we're small so Ican make those changes very
quickly.
But for, like Brad, like youmentioned, you know, 1.8 million
items, I don't even know howyou, how you even update that.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
That was challenging for a number of things.
That was 1.8 million over yearsand they thought that they
needed them and they tried to doa cleanup and they would make,
as Chris had mentioned.
They'd make variants forvariants for variants, when they
were all, in essence, the sameitem, and then it just snowballs
and it quickly changes whereone item can be.
If you make six differentvariants, you think about that,

(46:05):
you have six different variantsand then, oh, you may have
another slight variant.
Uh, and I'm not even going toget into why they made all those
items, because they could havejust they.
Sometimes they make an itembecause they had to change the
bill for one order.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
Have you ever seen anyone that uses variants for
revision numbers?
Yes, yep, yeah, we used to beone of those shops.
We don't do that anymore,thankfully, but that's
definitely going to go on.
My list of another way to notuse Business Central is please
don't use variants for revisionnumbers.
If it's the same form, fit,function and like you got to

(46:47):
update your engineering drawingbecause you like changed
something on the title block orlike in the notes, like that
doesn't need to be a new variant.
But I mean we, I mean some ofour items I swear, I swear.
We have like 30, 30 differentrevisions as variants in there
and that just makes inventorymanagement impossible to deal

(47:09):
with it's all a good idea whenyou're talking about it, but
when you see the practical useof it, you can't.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
you can't block out variants now, though, in
Business Central.
So if you can have a ton ofvariants, it's like we don't
sell those no more.
We sold all of those differentvariants.
We're making these new ones nowbecause they said, like, get
revisions, you can block them,so don't choose it.
But it is hard to maintain.
You're right, chris, but it ishard to maintain.

(47:40):
You're right, chris.
Regardless, you have to thinkabout that long-term, your
technical debt of what you donow.
They have to remember you knowtribal knowledge from somebody

(48:03):
that, hey, these items aretechnically all the same, but if
you have someone else come inyou, they're not going to know
all this tribal knowledge.
So you got to make sure thatyou know, as you're maybe
growing, your organization'sgrowing anybody that's coming in
you.
They have to.
You know they should be able toeasily pick up Business Central

(48:23):
and understand how it flows andnot have to worry about oh crap
, I get to deal with 1.8 millionSKUs and I don't know which one
to choose, and you can make amistake.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
Yeah, well, that's one of the big things too
between both Nav and BusinessCentral, because I think what
BC25, is that where they madethe checkbox in the item card
where it says variant mandatory.
So if you do have variants,then you have to actually select
one when you put it on a line,whether it's a production order,

(48:55):
a purchase order or anythinglike that.
So historically when we were onNAV, you know that was one of
our biggest pitfalls was peoplewould forget to actually select
the variant when they wereproducing something.
So that's just another reasonfor people to upgrade is, you
know, you get new features likethat that definitely help with

(49:16):
business flows.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Yeah certainly Brad.
How about you?
What's your?
What not to do?

Speaker 2 (49:23):
what not to do.
My what not to do would be a notuse it, for it's a I think it
would be a two part for it, andone is not understand how the
system the first one would be isnot understand how the system

(49:44):
the first one would be, and theygo together understand how the
application works and go throughthe motions of using the
application before wanting tomake an extension or customize
it and also, in that, validatewhy you're doing something in
your business processes becauseit will lead to unnecessary
modifications.
It's always that, well, in theold system we used to do it this

(50:05):
way.
In the old system we used to doit this way.
Well, why do you do it that way?
I don't know.
So then they want to makeBusiness Central work the same
exact way before they evenunderstand how Business Central
works, because it is a verypowerful application that can
support smaller businesses,medium-sized businesses and
large businesses, because theyhave a number of features and

(50:27):
options in there, and I've seencountless times where
individuals, before they even golive, have a list of extensions
that they want to have orenhancements that they want to
have to the application beforethey even properly used it,
without taking the time to do it, because everything the first
time you do it, when it'sforeign to you will be
challenging.

(50:47):
So you have to go through andget the the to be able to have
the vision to see how you may beable to gain some efficiencies,
because I cannot tell you howmany times I've seen extensions
box somebody in in the futurebecause they had to have this
specific modification when theyreally didn't fully understand
how Business Central worked.
So they now either need toenhance that extension because

(51:08):
it's so critical now to theirpart of their processes that
they've changed that it'sdifficult to remove and they end
up enhancing that, or they haveto take that extension out
completely, which in all ofthose cases, it's a waste of
time and it's a waste of moneyand it can cause a disruption to
you.
So my what not to do is jump inthinking that you need to
replicate exactly what you havewithout first having an

(51:30):
understanding of it.
And also, most importantly, aswe're talking about, why are you
doing something that you'redoing?
It's a good time to revalidateyour business processes and it's
not to say that something thatsomebody's doing is wrong, but
more often than not I findsomebody's doing something
because of a limitation at somepoint in the past.

(51:51):
So now we can print a PDF.
Now we can email where beforepeople used to print reports and
do this.
So if you had a requirement toprint reports on paper we're
talking about the printing inthe paper that was because the
PDFs didn't exist, maybe then,or if you had other processes.
Technologies now is advanced andyou can do it differently.

(52:13):
So that's my.
It's kind of a two part, butthat's my.
What not to do in BusinessCentral is one extensions before
you exhaust using the baseapplication, because that may
inhibit your growth with theapplication in the future,
because you can put yourself ina box, Not to say all extensions
are doing it that way.
I'm not trying to shy away fromit, I'm just saying be a little
more logical and methodicalthrough your process.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Spot on Spot on through your process, spot on,
spot on.
You know, when you said aboutprinting, I remember now a
company I worked with they saidthey printed because it was for
them to archive and as a backup.
That's what they told me.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
So I was like wow, okay, I swear, that's why we do
it too.
I mean every CFO I've workedwith has said that that's why we
do it too.
I mean I every, every cfo I'veworked with has said that that's
the reason that they print andlike that's not like printing
doesn't like set it in stonejust just to jump back with one
thing you said, and it's, it's,it's actually what you talked
about with the variants I.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
I looked while we were talking and it was october
of 2022.
That's been out.
It's been out, so it's been outfor a while, but it made me
think which version was it,because october of 2022 would
probably be version 23 no, yeah,I think it's 23, 21 well, 21,
because it's it's.
The years get messed up because,because now we're at 25, right,

(53:38):
we'll be 26 in April.
Yes, 25 was in October of 25.
So I mean 24 would be in Aprilof 25.
Let me go back 23 would be inOctober of See, this is what we
have to do.
I really wish that in thedocumentation where they talk
about the features where theyput the general availability.

(53:58):
I wish they put the versionnumber.
Yeah, I just wish it was soeasy.
On that one page, instead ofsaying public preview September
1st 2022.
General availability October1st 2022.
Just put 2022, Wave 2, version21.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Yeah, 22.2 or something, something 2022.2 I've
had that.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
It just drives me crazy because they add so many
features and I haveconversations with individuals
and now with business central,having both an online and
on-premises version for thoseindividuals that need to have
on-premises versions.
I talk with them and sometimesI have to remember which feature
came out when, because it maynot be in their version or not,
and if you go to look it up, I Ihave to remember which feature
came out when, because it maynot be in their version or not,
and if you go to look it up, Iliterally have to do something

(54:43):
similar to what we just talkedabout.
Okay, october 1st 2022.
I have to go find a list wheresomebody may already have that
list, or I have to go back andsearch now.
Okay, where is it on thedocumentation?
Because even grouping in thedocumentation, it just says 22
release wave plan two but youdon't know the actual version
number yeah, so we are alsoon-prem and I tell you what that

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is.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
The most frustrating thing for me is going to read
about some new exciting featurein Business Central and then
they have like some footer thatsays not available on-prem, and
it's so frustrating to me.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
That's another one of those challenges now, with
there being a divergence betweenfunctionality on some of it,
not to say that on-premisesisn't fully functional Well, I
don't want to say fullyfunctional, isn't fully capable
of supporting a business.
But there are features now andI understand why for a lot of
them, if not all of them, whythey're not available
on-premises.
A lot of times it's security isusually one of the biggest

(55:46):
reasons why they don't have itavailable.
But I agree with you.
I wish there was a list to say,okay, this is on-prem, this is
not, and you're done, which Ithink is challenging.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
I spent a solid two months trying to figure out how
to make power automate work onprem which it doesn't, by the
way but there is literallynothing in their documentation
that says this does not work onprem so that would be something
not to do that's another one notbe on-prem hey, on friday of

(56:25):
last week, uh, my boss actuallysigned our contract to move from
on-prem to cloud.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
So, oh, excellent, fantastic everyone has their
reason for using specificversions and there's advantages
and disadvantages to both.
But on uh on-premises versusonline, in my opinion, online
has a little bit more of anadvantage.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
I can't really see of a way or a reason to use
on-prem these days really.
I mean, like we, we wanted toenable mfa on in order to sign
in to BC and we're on-prem.
So I mean, historically we wereonly on-prem just so that way,
in theory, you could pull theinternet from the building and

(57:11):
we could still manufacture.
I mean, in theory that's whatwe were going for.
But once you enable mfa andyou're using microsoft's mfa
services, no matter what, you'regoing to have to have internet.
So the benefits of stayingon-prem just don't really make
sense anymore yes, now I thinkthey're getting fewer.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Early on, I could understand some apprehension to
going online.
Everyone has their arguments,so yeah, it's challenging.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
I think I've been through quite a few of those.
That is interesting, though,for staying on point, that is
one of the most common thingsthat I get is that they want to
be able to act in case theinternet goes down.
They still want to be able toaccess that, especially if you
have locations that are, youknow, satellite locations.
Maybe you have a store orthings like that, and my you

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know, unless there's no legacyrequirement, that you have to
have access to SQL or whatnot,and that's the only way for you
to interact with it.
For some odd reason, I alwaysmention that you know it is
cheaper to get a backupconnection than trying to
maintain an entireinfrastructure just because

(58:27):
maybe maybe you go offline.
And that's always been one ofmy solutions to that, because
you can get a backup LTE orbackup 5G or even Starlink for a
lot less than trying tomaintain a full infrastructure.
And you're going to have a.
You have to have a person, youhave to have a system admin, you

(58:49):
have to have a network admin tomaintain all of that when you
just you know, maybe just do itin Business Central online and
that would, and then they get abackup connection to all this
location.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
It's still much cheaper, it's still I actually
just yeah, I just did a costbenefit analysis for migrating
us from on-prem to the cloud.
I mean, there's so much costwith you maintaining things
on-prem that you don't have tohave when you just move to sas,
right, I mean, we, like we areon sql 2019, we're gonna have to

(59:23):
move to what's, I think, sql2022, uh, moving forward, um,
we're on, we're a lot of ourservice on uh 2012, r2, um, so
you know, these are just, youknow, additional costs that we
have to then factor in tostaying on-prem when the value
add really just isn't thereanymore, the overhead of using

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it on-premises.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
you need to have a really good justification, in my
opinion, to use it on-premisesbecause, like you said, all of
the licensing for the windowsserver, licensing for sql, again
, you may have some discountsand rates and I'm not saying
whatever it's.
But then you may have somediscounts and rates in there,
I'm not saying whatever.
But then you also have to payfor the Business Central
application, whereas if you haveBusiness Central Online, you

(01:00:08):
have your advanced or youressentials or your premium,
basically, or you can have alimited user too, and that's
what you have.
You're paying by user and youhave three choices.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
Yeah, I mean that's where we're at now.
I mean, we, we have our server.
For me to get a new server withnew windows server 20, what
2022, I think is the latest, andthen plus the new SQL version,
uh, plus hardware costs, I thinkit was over like 40 grand and
I'm like right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
That pays for your licenses for years.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
But then also the other argument I hear is storage
.
It depends on your storagespace because with Business
Central Online the only cost Idon't want to say the only cost,
but a cost that's in additionto your user cost could be your
storage cost, depending upon thenumber of space that you use.
But I've looked at it and ifyou factor in the storage cost
to what it would be if you hadto pay the forty thousand

(01:01:06):
dollars and then the maintenanceon the forty thousand dollars,
it starts to you have to compareapples and apples in my opinion
of what you're getting.
I'm not going to say that.
You know the cost beingseparate can can be costly, but
also your disaster recoveryinternally yeah, can be costly.
It's your electricity and it'snot only that, but it's also

(01:01:28):
your footprint within yourbuilding for your real estate
space.
So now most people are takingup an office to house their
service where you could have.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
It's just there's just a lot of cost to it,
whereas now, if you're anorganization that is maybe
looking into on-prem or stilllooking into on-prem and maybe
considering Business CentralOnline, you know a good place to
learn how people do this, ifwhat they design.
Right, chris, you got to go toSummit.

(01:01:56):
right, you got to go to theconference to have these
conversations of somebody thatmay have gone through that path
like you, chris, I mean, youknow whoever's listening to this
.
I'm going to go find Chris atSummit and ask him what that
looks like and why are theymoving to Business Central
Online?
So, with Summit, for those thatare still, you know, maybe

(01:02:20):
haven't registered yet, chris,can you tell us a little bit
more about registration forSummit?
When is that happening?
You know a little bit morebackground on that, especially
for first timers?

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
Yeah, so registration is actually live right now and
I want to say I think at the endof this month is when
registration goes up.
So if you just navigate todynamicscommunitiescom, you will
see and I think well, let mesee, I think it's the top
right-hand corner You're goingto see your summit registration
link and you have the ability togo there and go ahead and

(01:02:58):
register and what that gets youis full ability to go there and
go ahead and register and whatthat gets you is full access to
the conference.
So you have the ability to goto as many sessions as you want.
There's no limitations orrestrictions there.
But you also have the abilityto register for the Academy

(01:03:21):
sessions.
So a little bit about Academy isthese are more deep dives into
the specific modules withinBusiness Central.
So you can go to Academyclasses for and I think they
have one for Copilot now.
I think there's a specifictrack.
They also have the ability foryou to go to, like manufacturing
, finance, supply chain, prettymuch any sort of core module
that's inside of BusinessCentral.

(01:03:43):
They will probably have anacademy class for.
And you know, my very first yeargoing to Summit, I actually
went to academy and it's my onlytime I've ever been to academy
and I did the deep dive onmanufacturing and I will say
that is the most informativesessions that I have ever been

(01:04:03):
to.
I think it was two days backthen in Orlando, back in 2018.
And what's really cool aboutAcademy is it literally is like
you're in like a college courseand you have an instructor there
who is, you know, teaching youhow to go through every single
module or every single areawithin whatever specific academy

(01:04:24):
class that you're taking, andyou either have to bring your
own laptop to be able to connectto a test version of Business
Central or they provide them foryou and you just you learn so
much during those sessions.
So, yeah, so you, you knowacademy is a separate
registration, free from summit,but, uh, highly recommend it

(01:04:47):
excellent, excellent, and theregistration is open.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
It does increase, as you mentioned on april 1st, so
my certain when we'll have thisone released?
Uh, because it's running upclose to that time.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
We we have to go through, and by the time they
listen to this it's like oh Well, they may listen to it in the
future.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
It may be past, but the knowledge on Summit is still
valuable.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
On what you can get from there.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
So, and Summit also.
This year is October 19th to23rd in Orlando, florida, so I
know a lot of parts of thecountry are getting chilly at
that time of the year, soOrlando is usually not a bad
place to be in October.
It's starting to get hot, butit's not blazing hot.
Wait, excuse me.
Starting to get cool, but it'snot freezing.

(01:05:33):
Rewind Everybody know what Imeant to say.

Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
Right, I will say, while we are encouraging people
to register for summit right now, um, I do have to tell this
quick story about my very firstyear of going to summit.
Um, our partner at the time, um, had recommended that we go um,
just because everybody wasbrand new to nav essentially at

(01:05:59):
the time and we registered solate that they the only hotel
that we could get in orlando wasthe dolphin hotel in downtown
disney, um, and it was.
It was the cheapest option.
So me and five of my otherco-workers got to stay
essentially at the boardwalk inDisney at a Disney hotel, just

(01:06:24):
because we registered so late.
So not that I'm encouragingthis, but you might be able to
get yourself a good deal and beable to stay at a Disney hotel
if you wait to register.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
Hopefully you don't, because this is a, this is a the
gay lord right.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
So yeah it was at the gay lord in 2018 too, but we
registered.
I want to say we registeredlike september and oh, you're
really late.
Yeah, so, literally the onlyhotel that we could get was the
swan and dolphin hotel, um, andat the boardwalk at disney, and,

(01:07:02):
uh, I tell you what it was.
It was funny because it was me.
It was me and four or five otherof my co-workers, and they were
all my age except for one ofthem and she was like a 60 some
odd year old accountant, and, um, it was funny because the the
power went out the very firstnight that we were there and the

(01:07:23):
hotel ended up giving us each50 gift cards to go to the
neighboring hotel, just to go tolike chill at the bar and like
hang out until the power cameback on.
And it was funny because she,uh, she brought some like really
old, like dice game I don'tremember what game this was and
so there's, like, you know, abunch of young kids, this older

(01:07:43):
lady, and we're just sitting atthe bar until like midnight, uh,
and everybody was just likelooking at us, like having this
great time, you know, playing,playing this game, um, you know,
just just hanging out while thepower is out.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
So Wow, hopefully, hopefully we have no power
outages.
Yeah Well, october is beautifulin Orlando.
I don't even know when to sayanymore.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
but well, Chris, thank you very much for taking
the time to speak with us today.
Thank you for all that you dofor the community and thank you
for sharing the informationabout community summit.
I'm looking forward to seeingyou and anyone else and everyone
else that's listening there, Ifanyone would like to contact
you for more information on howto attend.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
Summit or more about their business implementation
how can they contact you?

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
Your voice totally changed.
Yeah, I hope nobody from workis going to listen to this?

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
Nobody listens to this.
It's just the three of usanyway, so don't worry about
it's why my voice.
I just let the.
I don't even know what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
This is just one of those episodes, but it's okay
for the second time you're goingto be for the second time
that's what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
You get older, you go through changes twice in your
life, right, isn't one aboutthree times in your life?
But yeah, I think I'm at thatstage.
I'm going through puberty again, but, uh, how can someone get
in contact with you?

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
yeah, so I actually did just start up my own llc uh
this last weekend, so I have anew email address thank you um,
thanks.
So yeah, you can contact me atchris at the 365 resourcecom.
And yeah, I will get that andbe sure to respond to you
quickly chris365resourcecom.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
We do have the profile page for guests.
Yours is on there, I believe,or I send you the link.
You can fill it out with allthat information.
So we'll attach that to theepisode as well too.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
Yeah that sounds great.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
And we look forward to seeing you in October.
Talk to you soon.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
All right, thanks guys, appreciate it.
Bye.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Thank you, chris, for your time for another episode
of In the Dynamics Corner Chair,and thank you to our guests for
participating.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
Thank you, brad, for your time.
It is a wonderful episode ofDynamics Corner Chair.
I would also like to thank ourguests for joining us.
Thank you for all of ourlisteners tuning in as well.
You can find Brad atdeveloperlifecom, that is
D-V-L-P-R-L-I-F-E dot com, andyou can interact with them via

(01:10:14):
Twitter D-V-L-P-R-L-I-F-E.
You can also find me atmatalinoio, m-a-t-a-l-i-n-oi-o,
and my Twitter handle ismatalino16.
And you can see those linksdown below in their show notes.
Again, thank you everyone.

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Thank you and take care.