November 11, 2025 • 21 mins
In this episode of Dynamics Corner, we catch up after several weeks of conference prep and attendance.
We talk about getting the most out of conference season, even the conferences you can't attend.
And we cover key takeaways and learnings from recent events. Some hot topics include Agentic AI, MCP Servers, Copilot Studio, Business Central's new logo, and more.
Tune in and don't have FOMO on this episode!
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SPEAKER_00 (00:05):
Welcome everyone to another episode of Dynamics
Corner.
This is a special episode.
We'll do a quick recap.
I'm your co-host, Chris.
SPEAKER_01 (00:14):
And this is Brad.
This episode was recorded onNovember 6th, 2025.
Chris, Chris, Chris.
It is a special episode.
Why?
It is.
Because we we we had aconversation with the two of us.
We haven't had a chance to dothat while in a while.
And I hope we continue to dothat.
And also, what do you think ofFOMO?
(00:45):
Do you know something that I'vebeen thinking about?
What's up?
It's even more so this week.
I this is what you know, it'sit's part of the year where
there's a lot of conferencesgoing on.
We had Community Summit, we hadPower Platform, and then now we
have Directions of Mir, andthere's other conferences going
on as well.
Yeah, and sometimes you followalong and you have FOMO.
SPEAKER_00 (01:12):
Don't tell me about FOMO, man.
SPEAKER_01 (01:16):
And FOMO, for those that don't know, FOMO is the
fear of missing out.
SPEAKER_00 (01:21):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (01:22):
Right?
And it's it's the anxiousfeeling that you get that other
people are having fun or doingsomething and you're not there.
And I think Yeah.
Yeah.
I obviously we can't all go toevery single conference.
It's not possible for anyone togo to every conference.
(01:42):
Some get to go to more thanothers depending upon their uh
profession, theirresponsibilities.
Others it's a special treat orsomething to go because of their
responsibilities at work.
But FOMO, I think, is realbecause I usually I typically
don't have FOMO because I'velearned that I can't be
(02:03):
everywhere at all.
And I'm big on time and beingable to appreciate the time that
I have because again, time isfinite.
Your time is finite, but thenumber of things that you can do
on the planet is infinite.
So even if you wanted to travelto all these places, learn the
latest languages, learn thistechnology, you wouldn't be able
(02:23):
to do it.
SPEAKER_00 (02:24):
But I think it's I think it's different for us
though.
Like at least for me, it's alittle different with FOMO
because like I I you know, whenpeople travel, it's fine, right?
Like it's it's fine.
But it's when you're passionateabout something and you're not
there among your peers andhaving a great time and you're
living through the photos.
That is much worse, at least forme.
I can speak for myself there.
(02:44):
Um, because you're a learner.
I mean, we're all learners,especially if you're passionate
about a specific product.
You want to be there, you wantto be able to be in person when
they announce stuff.
SPEAKER_01 (02:57):
No, I understand I understand what you're saying,
and typically I don't have that,but this week with seeing all of
the announcements coming out ofDirections Amia, I wish I were
there, but in reality, it's okaythat you're not because you're
still digesting and hearing thenews.
Yeah.
So this is the case of is is I Ithink the FOMO is for me, is
(03:21):
seeing the announcements I'mthankful for, but sometimes not
having the details of theannouncements or seeing some of
the sessions that were beingpresented by many of the
talented uh speakers that theyhave at that conference or the
individuals from the businesscentral or the dynamics 365
community.
I wish that I had theopportunity to attend some of
those.
(03:42):
But it's it's real.
And I'm wondering, you know,does everybody else have that?
Or does everyone have the okay,I can't be there, okay?
Or those that do have it, how dothey process it?
It it's interesting.
SPEAKER_00 (03:59):
Yeah, you know, I'm curious about people who either
listens to our uh episodes, uhpodcast episodes, or or watching
the video.
Um, if at some point they haveFOMO uh based on our topic and
conversation, I'm sure they wantto chime in sometimes.
They're like, no, no, no, no.
That's not not my experience.
Or oh yeah, that's myexperience.
SPEAKER_01 (04:18):
I'm certain that somebody does.
SPEAKER_00 (04:19):
I've been told about that.
It's like, oh, you guys weretalking about that thing in in
one episode, and and I was like,I wanted to just chime in and
and you know, share myexperience and perspective.
And I was like, well, you cansign up.
SPEAKER_01 (04:31):
I'm certain there are some that do, and certain
that there are some that don't,because I know that I listen to
many podcasts, and I often wantto chime in, or I or just say,
Yes, I agree with that.
Oh yes, yes, well, what aboutthis and such?
But it's nice, at least at leastyou get a sense to be able to
(04:52):
relate to the content that youlisten to.
But I think now at the time ofthis recording that the AMIA
conference is is wrapping up,and I'm anxious to not in the
FOMO sense of anxious, but to beable to see more information on
what was announced and be ableto digest that.
I mean, there was some bigthings, the new Business Central
(05:12):
logo, the the whole roadmap for2026 wave one, which we'll have
a lot of great episodes uh inthe upcoming months about some
of the new features, even moreso as we get closer to closer
and closer to the release withthe preview being out and such,
uh, typically one month prior tothe release.
So in March, everyone will beable to stop playing with it.
(05:32):
But you know, the new businesscentral logo, the business
central MCP, the agentplayground, quality, expense,
and the list goes on and on andon and on.
I I can't even stop, even fromthe development point of view,
with the tools that werereleased from the development
point of view, some of its uh uhyeah, I won't cover the whole
(05:54):
list because we'll get intothose topics, but for those that
uh work with Business Central, alot of excitement uh in this
next coming uh upcoming releasein April.
SPEAKER_00 (06:03):
Yeah, for sure.
You know, you you you weretalking about the the new logo,
uh, which is exciting becausewhen I was at PowerPlatform uh
community conference in LasVegas, they also made an
announcement of new logos aswell on that on that Power
Platform side or D365 or otherproducts in Microsoft.
(06:24):
And and co Copilot Studio alsohad a brand new logo.
And it just made me think aboutthe logo, the new Business
Central logo.
You remember uh some people hadthat maybe perhaps tattooed, or
uh, I think we have some coupleuh community members that they
had it all up in their ceiling,um and now they're gonna have to
(06:45):
revamp it or redo it, right?
So um I don't know.
Do you like the new logo?
Uh let's start with that.
SPEAKER_01 (06:51):
I don't know if they necessarily have to redo it, or
it could be a relic.
Uh look at some of the sportsteams that change their logos.
Individuals have old gear thatthey wear with the old logos and
they become sort of relics of uhdays of old.
I I like the new I like the newlogo.
I often wonder why they do it,but I also understand the sense
(07:13):
of it's theming and maybebringing things together or just
the signs of modernization inthe respect of uh the content of
what they have.
But yeah, I I I do like the newlogo.
Um you know, I just get used toa new logo, it's almost like
they uh with the product names.
I almost wonder now, is the isthe product name going to change
(07:36):
with the logo change, or is itgoing to stay the same?
SPEAKER_00 (07:39):
Ooh, that's gonna be uh they if they were to change
the name, that would be wild,right?
Business central.
SPEAKER_01 (07:48):
I wouldn't put it past anyone to do it.
Uh I don't know if they will,but I I think it'll probably
stick around for a little while.
Speaking of that in conferences,so we had both attended the
summit, community summit NorthAmerica conference a short time
ago.
Uh a very well-intended, very uhuh there's a wide range of
topics, wide range of uh contentto put out.
(08:10):
There's just so much going on,so many talented speakers.
Uh, what was your takeaway fromthat conference?
SPEAKER_00 (08:16):
Uh actually that conference in Orlando felt a
little bit more uh educationfocused for once.
And I think a lot of us, uh atleast at least for me, in the
past people had complained thatyou know a lot of the content
maybe re uh repeat, uh whichwhich makes sense.
(08:36):
If you've been in the industryfor so long, it feels like I
already know that stuff.
But I came to realize that thepeople that who uh who did
attend a session, my session, oreven the academy, that a lot of
people are new to BusinessCentral.
So we we you know I had to shiftmy mind to say, look, it not
(08:57):
everyone's been going to theconference every year over year
over year.
And on top of that, I actuallylearned uh myself.
I mean, I learned every year,but I felt like I learned more
uh this time around, probablybecause there's new features and
new things coming out of um outof business central.
So it's not as crazy as it was,and I know we've um you know, we
(09:19):
were out in Expo Hall and thingslike that.
It felt a little bit more uh thethe the the term intimate, like
you get to spend a little bitmore time, longer conversations
rather than just hey, hi andbuy, and then move on.
So it it it that that that's oneof the big takeaways.
The other one is really more ofthe agentic space in where it's
(09:40):
going.
So it's it's definitely changedand actually not only from uh an
end user side or the client sideof the business central, but
also from an ISV perspective andas a partner perspective, even
as a consultant, right?
Like which one would you focusnow, now that there's gonna be
all these agent tech thingscoming out?
SPEAKER_01 (10:01):
So yes, I don't know where those agents will go, but
um enjoying that wholetechnology uh probably a little
bit more than I should.
No, I agree with you.
The conference was a greatconference, uh, a lot of new
attendees, first-time attendees,uh, a lot of end users, but I
think it is that conference thateveryone should attend if they
(10:23):
have the opportunity to attend,because there is such a wide
range of information shared bythe speakers.
Uh as you had mentioned, uhthese conference, that
conference is right around therelease, the second wave of the
year.
So it's a good place to go tolearn about some of the new
features, functionalities, oreven how to uh how to do stuff
(10:43):
within Business Central.
And I think you get a lot out ofit if you shift your mindset
also of trying to fill your daywith content.
It's great to be submerged andnot really think about anything
besides the content that'sthere.
But I thought it was a greatconference.
And then you had a littlewhirlwind.
I wasn't able to make it.
I don't know if I'm thankful ornot because I do like to rest.
(11:07):
But then you jumped over to thepower platform conference in Las
Vegas, Nevada.
Uh what was the theme of thePower Platform conference?
SPEAKER_00 (11:15):
Oh my gosh, man.
You know, that that's my secondor third Power Platform
conference.
I missed the first one.
Um, but I I think I think peopleshould go to that conference.
Uh, I think they had over 7,000people or perhaps more on the
power platform conference.
It it it's now there's not a lotof representative in terms of
(11:38):
business central in our space,but the products that they have
or shared really could or notcould, it it will and does
interact with business central.
So, you know, I I wrote a littlebit of um uh uh quite a bit of
notes of what the power platformmeant for me as a uh as a person
(11:58):
that lives in business centralworld.
You know, I've been dabblingquite some time with the
co-pilot studio and all thepower platform stuff.
Um but Microsoft had made acomment and uh Charles Lamont
had made a comment that lowcode, the quote code is low code
as we know it is dead.
And that to me was aneye-opener.
(12:22):
Um uh it doesn't mean it's itgets more complicated, it just
means it's a lot easier.
And the low code, if you guysrecall, it was more like uh
puzzle pieces, right?
Like you take this tools andactions and so forth, and you
kind of have to build that out.
I'm not saying you should notstill know about that or how to
(12:42):
how to use it, but it makes iteasier now from uh citizen
developers, what they were usedto be called, right?
To to be able to justorchestrate agents now that can
just do that, just say whateveryou need to say, and then they
will build those out.
So you no longer have to buildthose.
So that was one big takeaway uhfrom the PowerPoint platform
conference.
Number two, they kept talkingabout uh the front frontier
(13:06):
firm.
Uh basically it you you have tobecome an AI centric uh uh you
know business was one of thething, uh one of the things they
talked about.
And then the the secondcomponent was you have to be
intent first.
So you you have to know theintent of what you're developing
first before you you know startgetting to the technical side
(13:27):
and and building those uhagents.
SPEAKER_01 (13:30):
That that to me is common sense.
I hate to say that, that butanytime anytime you embark on
some journey, you should have uhan idea of what your destination
is, right?
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00 (13:43):
Yes, yes.
Uh and then the third uh thelast one is the MCP.
So I I know they've madeannouncements in the MCP side of
things um in directions and Mia.
I don't think that's it's nolonger a uh uh you know a
secret.
I I guess it's been postedeverywhere.
Um but the MCP servers worldit's definitely growing.
(14:07):
I think there's like 268 plusnow MCPs.
Um but man, um I I don't know.
I it I'm speechless, to behonest with you, uh, of the
things that you could do withCopilot Studio Um and then being
being able to build agents uhquickly.
I mean, you could build an agentthat interacts with Business
(14:28):
Central in like 10 minutes orless.
Can you imagine that?
SPEAKER_01 (14:32):
It is, but if you listen to what you're saying, uh
I I think that the shape ofwhat's occurring is that entire
ecosystem is becoming closer,which uh I like because
everything's becomingintertwined.
So now you offer a solution tosomebody and you can use
multiple tools, similar to howthe MCP has a number of tools
(14:56):
that uh that it will use to helpAI or the AI can use to do
stuff.
Uh I think it's better becausenow before you used to have to
work within a specific productand do everything within that
product, but now with BusinessCentral, even more so with
Business Central Online, youhave that interconnectivity to
other parts of the ecosystem sothat you can take the benefits,
(15:21):
features, and functionality andblend it all together.
So now it's you're working on aplatform and then you're using
the pieces you talk about powerplatform, being able to connect
to Business Central, PowerAutomate, Power BI, all of those
wonderful things to work withit, which I know we'll have
great conversations in theupcoming months about all of
that.
And I'm looking forward to it.
(15:42):
Yeah.
I wish I could have some more totalk about for this week, but uh
unfortunately we weren't able togo.
SPEAKER_00 (15:50):
Yeah.
I and and just to go back on uhnow I I you know I'm I'm clearly
not at Directions Amia rightnow, but um there are four
components.
What does it mean for you as alistener or maybe as a partner
and user or as a business, ifyou are a decision maker, uh
what does it mean?
So I I found that it it targetedfour areas of uh what you call
(16:13):
personas, um, in terms of likewhere does agentic or AI agent
will come to play into yourbusiness?
So the the first one I found,and again, I was taking notes
here because it's like, man,this is so exciting.
I haven't been so excited abouttechnology in a long time.
Um this is a big one, right?
This is a big uh thing to beexcited about.
(16:34):
One is the data entry agent.
So that typically means that youare uh uh targeting the
operational teams, maybe abusiness user.
And one of the biggest value inthat is that you can automate
structured data and you capturethose and making sure that
there's high data integrity umthat that gets entered uh
(16:57):
consistently by an AI agent.
That's one persona.
The other persona was dataexploration um agents.
If you look at your co-pilotright now, or yeah, your
co-pilot in M365, there's a Ithink it's called research, if I
recall, uh researcher uh agent,if I I'm trying to look it up
right now, just for um orexplore uh yes, I think it
(17:21):
that's what it is.
It's like um a researcher.
So it it it's it's available foryou now.
Uh well, they'll do deepresearch.
Um, I think Gemini does the samething.
Uh so that is targeted foranalysts and uh and BI experts.
Right?
Uh now you can get data basedupon your just natural language
(17:42):
query.
Uh, for example, if you'retrying to get a give me my top
five uh customer, I know you dothat now, but it it it's not
only extracting data for you,but you can also use MCPCP MCP
server to package that up in aformat that it will
automatically email for you uhas well.
Uh or you can even have itexport into Excel because
(18:04):
there's an Excel MCP server.
So all those things uh uh get umorchestrated by a single agent.
Um the third one was a codeagent uh for developers, which
uh Brad, you're already doingthat.
And then the the the the thefourth one is the M3C5 copilot
agent for knowledge workers thatare just pulling information and
(18:26):
and and data flow.
So it a lot of stuff, man.
Uh it's a lot to digest.
SPEAKER_01 (18:33):
And I know over the next couple of months, sometimes
I wonder how much of it willstill be around because things
are moving rather quickly.
But I think there will be a lotmore of this now that these
conferences are over and uh theinformation's out there that
we'll be able to take advantageof and see the efficiency of it.
And that's the thing.
It's AI will help make peoplebecome more efficient, I
(18:55):
believe, to help with some ofthe tasks.
I don't think some things itmight be able to do, some things
uh it might need a littlecoaching, you know, that whole
human in the loop.
Yeah, which uh it will, it'll beexciting to see how it all gets
used.
I am reading a good book onthis.
I'm reading the book Vibecoding.
Uh it's a book that I wastalking with Steve Endo, and
(19:15):
Steve Endo was reading it.
We we talk about some of thisstuff, and uh it's it's a good
book.
Uh I I recommend reading it.
It's an it's an interesting bookto talk about vibe coding um and
to see some of the stuff they'vedone.
The the crazy thing is I thinkthe book was written second half
of 2024.
SPEAKER_00 (19:31):
Oh, wow.
SPEAKER_01 (19:32):
And it's already outdated in a sense.
SPEAKER_00 (19:35):
Yeah, that's so crazy, right?
SPEAKER_01 (19:37):
Technology is moving fast.
So uh with that, we have a lotof great guests lined up, and
we'll have some more informationon all of these topics.
So I'm looking forward togetting my mind filled and blown
away with some of the stuff.
SPEAKER_00 (19:53):
Well, once it settles down, right?
When everyone comes back fromconferences, uh, I think there's
a few more conferences in uhthis month and next month and in
January.
Um, but we we're gonna get asmuch uh uh guests on here.
Uh we're gonna get quiteactually quite a lot of guests
coming up.
Uh and and uh we'll be talkingabout this in detail.
Like all right, Mr.
SPEAKER_01 (20:15):
Chris.
I have to run and go try toabsorb some more information.
And then I'll talk to you soon.
Chow chow.
All right, take care.
Welcome everyone to another episode of Dynamics
Corner.
This is a special episode.
We'll do a quick recap.
I'm your co-host, Chris.
SPEAKER_01 (00:14):
And this is Brad.
This episode was recorded onNovember 6th, 2025.
Chris, Chris, Chris.
It is a special episode.
Why?
It is.
Because we we we had aconversation with the two of us.
We haven't had a chance to dothat while in a while.
And I hope we continue to dothat.
And also, what do you think ofFOMO?
(00:45):
Do you know something that I'vebeen thinking about?
What's up?
It's even more so this week.
I this is what you know, it'sit's part of the year where
there's a lot of conferencesgoing on.
We had Community Summit, we hadPower Platform, and then now we
have Directions of Mir, andthere's other conferences going
on as well.
Yeah, and sometimes you followalong and you have FOMO.
SPEAKER_00 (01:12):
Don't tell me about FOMO, man.
SPEAKER_01 (01:16):
And FOMO, for those that don't know, FOMO is the
fear of missing out.
SPEAKER_00 (01:21):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (01:22):
Right?
And it's it's the anxiousfeeling that you get that other
people are having fun or doingsomething and you're not there.
And I think Yeah.
Yeah.
I obviously we can't all go toevery single conference.
It's not possible for anyone togo to every conference.
(01:42):
Some get to go to more thanothers depending upon their uh
profession, theirresponsibilities.
Others it's a special treat orsomething to go because of their
responsibilities at work.
But FOMO, I think, is realbecause I usually I typically
don't have FOMO because I'velearned that I can't be
(02:03):
everywhere at all.
And I'm big on time and beingable to appreciate the time that
I have because again, time isfinite.
Your time is finite, but thenumber of things that you can do
on the planet is infinite.
So even if you wanted to travelto all these places, learn the
latest languages, learn thistechnology, you wouldn't be able
(02:23):
to do it.
SPEAKER_00 (02:24):
But I think it's I think it's different for us
though.
Like at least for me, it's alittle different with FOMO
because like I I you know, whenpeople travel, it's fine, right?
Like it's it's fine.
But it's when you're passionateabout something and you're not
there among your peers andhaving a great time and you're
living through the photos.
That is much worse, at least forme.
I can speak for myself there.
(02:44):
Um, because you're a learner.
I mean, we're all learners,especially if you're passionate
about a specific product.
You want to be there, you wantto be able to be in person when
they announce stuff.
SPEAKER_01 (02:57):
No, I understand I understand what you're saying,
and typically I don't have that,but this week with seeing all of
the announcements coming out ofDirections Amia, I wish I were
there, but in reality, it's okaythat you're not because you're
still digesting and hearing thenews.
Yeah.
So this is the case of is is I Ithink the FOMO is for me, is
(03:21):
seeing the announcements I'mthankful for, but sometimes not
having the details of theannouncements or seeing some of
the sessions that were beingpresented by many of the
talented uh speakers that theyhave at that conference or the
individuals from the businesscentral or the dynamics 365
community.
I wish that I had theopportunity to attend some of
those.
(03:42):
But it's it's real.
And I'm wondering, you know,does everybody else have that?
Or does everyone have the okay,I can't be there, okay?
Or those that do have it, how dothey process it?
It it's interesting.
SPEAKER_00 (03:59):
Yeah, you know, I'm curious about people who either
listens to our uh episodes, uhpodcast episodes, or or watching
the video.
Um, if at some point they haveFOMO uh based on our topic and
conversation, I'm sure they wantto chime in sometimes.
They're like, no, no, no, no.
That's not not my experience.
Or oh yeah, that's myexperience.
SPEAKER_01 (04:18):
I'm certain that somebody does.
SPEAKER_00 (04:19):
I've been told about that.
It's like, oh, you guys weretalking about that thing in in
one episode, and and I was like,I wanted to just chime in and
and you know, share myexperience and perspective.
And I was like, well, you cansign up.
SPEAKER_01 (04:31):
I'm certain there are some that do, and certain
that there are some that don't,because I know that I listen to
many podcasts, and I often wantto chime in, or I or just say,
Yes, I agree with that.
Oh yes, yes, well, what aboutthis and such?
But it's nice, at least at leastyou get a sense to be able to
(04:52):
relate to the content that youlisten to.
But I think now at the time ofthis recording that the AMIA
conference is is wrapping up,and I'm anxious to not in the
FOMO sense of anxious, but to beable to see more information on
what was announced and be ableto digest that.
I mean, there was some bigthings, the new Business Central
(05:12):
logo, the the whole roadmap for2026 wave one, which we'll have
a lot of great episodes uh inthe upcoming months about some
of the new features, even moreso as we get closer to closer
and closer to the release withthe preview being out and such,
uh, typically one month prior tothe release.
So in March, everyone will beable to stop playing with it.
(05:32):
But you know, the new businesscentral logo, the business
central MCP, the agentplayground, quality, expense,
and the list goes on and on andon and on.
I I can't even stop, even fromthe development point of view,
with the tools that werereleased from the development
point of view, some of its uh uhyeah, I won't cover the whole
(05:54):
list because we'll get intothose topics, but for those that
uh work with Business Central, alot of excitement uh in this
next coming uh upcoming releasein April.
SPEAKER_00 (06:03):
Yeah, for sure.
You know, you you you weretalking about the the new logo,
uh, which is exciting becausewhen I was at PowerPlatform uh
community conference in LasVegas, they also made an
announcement of new logos aswell on that on that Power
Platform side or D365 or otherproducts in Microsoft.
(06:24):
And and co Copilot Studio alsohad a brand new logo.
And it just made me think aboutthe logo, the new Business
Central logo.
You remember uh some people hadthat maybe perhaps tattooed, or
uh, I think we have some coupleuh community members that they
had it all up in their ceiling,um and now they're gonna have to
(06:45):
revamp it or redo it, right?
So um I don't know.
Do you like the new logo?
Uh let's start with that.
SPEAKER_01 (06:51):
I don't know if they necessarily have to redo it, or
it could be a relic.
Uh look at some of the sportsteams that change their logos.
Individuals have old gear thatthey wear with the old logos and
they become sort of relics of uhdays of old.
I I like the new I like the newlogo.
I often wonder why they do it,but I also understand the sense
(07:13):
of it's theming and maybebringing things together or just
the signs of modernization inthe respect of uh the content of
what they have.
But yeah, I I I do like the newlogo.
Um you know, I just get used toa new logo, it's almost like
they uh with the product names.
I almost wonder now, is the isthe product name going to change
(07:36):
with the logo change, or is itgoing to stay the same?
SPEAKER_00 (07:39):
Ooh, that's gonna be uh they if they were to change
the name, that would be wild,right?
Business central.
SPEAKER_01 (07:48):
I wouldn't put it past anyone to do it.
Uh I don't know if they will,but I I think it'll probably
stick around for a little while.
Speaking of that in conferences,so we had both attended the
summit, community summit NorthAmerica conference a short time
ago.
Uh a very well-intended, very uhuh there's a wide range of
topics, wide range of uh contentto put out.
(08:10):
There's just so much going on,so many talented speakers.
Uh, what was your takeaway fromthat conference?
SPEAKER_00 (08:16):
Uh actually that conference in Orlando felt a
little bit more uh educationfocused for once.
And I think a lot of us, uh atleast at least for me, in the
past people had complained thatyou know a lot of the content
maybe re uh repeat, uh whichwhich makes sense.
(08:36):
If you've been in the industryfor so long, it feels like I
already know that stuff.
But I came to realize that thepeople that who uh who did
attend a session, my session, oreven the academy, that a lot of
people are new to BusinessCentral.
So we we you know I had to shiftmy mind to say, look, it not
(08:57):
everyone's been going to theconference every year over year
over year.
And on top of that, I actuallylearned uh myself.
I mean, I learned every year,but I felt like I learned more
uh this time around, probablybecause there's new features and
new things coming out of um outof business central.
So it's not as crazy as it was,and I know we've um you know, we
(09:19):
were out in Expo Hall and thingslike that.
It felt a little bit more uh thethe the the term intimate, like
you get to spend a little bitmore time, longer conversations
rather than just hey, hi andbuy, and then move on.
So it it it that that that's oneof the big takeaways.
The other one is really more ofthe agentic space in where it's
(09:40):
going.
So it's it's definitely changedand actually not only from uh an
end user side or the client sideof the business central, but
also from an ISV perspective andas a partner perspective, even
as a consultant, right?
Like which one would you focusnow, now that there's gonna be
all these agent tech thingscoming out?
SPEAKER_01 (10:01):
So yes, I don't know where those agents will go, but
um enjoying that wholetechnology uh probably a little
bit more than I should.
No, I agree with you.
The conference was a greatconference, uh, a lot of new
attendees, first-time attendees,uh, a lot of end users, but I
think it is that conference thateveryone should attend if they
(10:23):
have the opportunity to attend,because there is such a wide
range of information shared bythe speakers.
Uh as you had mentioned, uhthese conference, that
conference is right around therelease, the second wave of the
year.
So it's a good place to go tolearn about some of the new
features, functionalities, oreven how to uh how to do stuff
(10:43):
within Business Central.
And I think you get a lot out ofit if you shift your mindset
also of trying to fill your daywith content.
It's great to be submerged andnot really think about anything
besides the content that'sthere.
But I thought it was a greatconference.
And then you had a littlewhirlwind.
I wasn't able to make it.
I don't know if I'm thankful ornot because I do like to rest.
(11:07):
But then you jumped over to thepower platform conference in Las
Vegas, Nevada.
Uh what was the theme of thePower Platform conference?
SPEAKER_00 (11:15):
Oh my gosh, man.
You know, that that's my secondor third Power Platform
conference.
I missed the first one.
Um, but I I think I think peopleshould go to that conference.
Uh, I think they had over 7,000people or perhaps more on the
power platform conference.
It it it's now there's not a lotof representative in terms of
(11:38):
business central in our space,but the products that they have
or shared really could or notcould, it it will and does
interact with business central.
So, you know, I I wrote a littlebit of um uh uh quite a bit of
notes of what the power platformmeant for me as a uh as a person
(11:58):
that lives in business centralworld.
You know, I've been dabblingquite some time with the
co-pilot studio and all thepower platform stuff.
Um but Microsoft had made acomment and uh Charles Lamont
had made a comment that lowcode, the quote code is low code
as we know it is dead.
And that to me was aneye-opener.
(12:22):
Um uh it doesn't mean it's itgets more complicated, it just
means it's a lot easier.
And the low code, if you guysrecall, it was more like uh
puzzle pieces, right?
Like you take this tools andactions and so forth, and you
kind of have to build that out.
I'm not saying you should notstill know about that or how to
(12:42):
how to use it, but it makes iteasier now from uh citizen
developers, what they were usedto be called, right?
To to be able to justorchestrate agents now that can
just do that, just say whateveryou need to say, and then they
will build those out.
So you no longer have to buildthose.
So that was one big takeaway uhfrom the PowerPoint platform
conference.
Number two, they kept talkingabout uh the front frontier
(13:06):
firm.
Uh basically it you you have tobecome an AI centric uh uh you
know business was one of thething, uh one of the things they
talked about.
And then the the secondcomponent was you have to be
intent first.
So you you have to know theintent of what you're developing
first before you you know startgetting to the technical side
(13:27):
and and building those uhagents.
SPEAKER_01 (13:30):
That that to me is common sense.
I hate to say that, that butanytime anytime you embark on
some journey, you should have uhan idea of what your destination
is, right?
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00 (13:43):
Yes, yes.
Uh and then the third uh thelast one is the MCP.
So I I know they've madeannouncements in the MCP side of
things um in directions and Mia.
I don't think that's it's nolonger a uh uh you know a
secret.
I I guess it's been postedeverywhere.
Um but the MCP servers worldit's definitely growing.
(14:07):
I think there's like 268 plusnow MCPs.
Um but man, um I I don't know.
I it I'm speechless, to behonest with you, uh, of the
things that you could do withCopilot Studio Um and then being
being able to build agents uhquickly.
I mean, you could build an agentthat interacts with Business
(14:28):
Central in like 10 minutes orless.
Can you imagine that?
SPEAKER_01 (14:32):
It is, but if you listen to what you're saying, uh
I I think that the shape ofwhat's occurring is that entire
ecosystem is becoming closer,which uh I like because
everything's becomingintertwined.
So now you offer a solution tosomebody and you can use
multiple tools, similar to howthe MCP has a number of tools
(14:56):
that uh that it will use to helpAI or the AI can use to do
stuff.
Uh I think it's better becausenow before you used to have to
work within a specific productand do everything within that
product, but now with BusinessCentral, even more so with
Business Central Online, youhave that interconnectivity to
other parts of the ecosystem sothat you can take the benefits,
(15:21):
features, and functionality andblend it all together.
So now it's you're working on aplatform and then you're using
the pieces you talk about powerplatform, being able to connect
to Business Central, PowerAutomate, Power BI, all of those
wonderful things to work withit, which I know we'll have
great conversations in theupcoming months about all of
that.
And I'm looking forward to it.
(15:42):
Yeah.
I wish I could have some more totalk about for this week, but uh
unfortunately we weren't able togo.
SPEAKER_00 (15:50):
Yeah.
I and and just to go back on uhnow I I you know I'm I'm clearly
not at Directions Amia rightnow, but um there are four
components.
What does it mean for you as alistener or maybe as a partner
and user or as a business, ifyou are a decision maker, uh
what does it mean?
So I I found that it it targetedfour areas of uh what you call
(16:13):
personas, um, in terms of likewhere does agentic or AI agent
will come to play into yourbusiness?
So the the first one I found,and again, I was taking notes
here because it's like, man,this is so exciting.
I haven't been so excited abouttechnology in a long time.
Um this is a big one, right?
This is a big uh thing to beexcited about.
(16:34):
One is the data entry agent.
So that typically means that youare uh uh targeting the
operational teams, maybe abusiness user.
And one of the biggest value inthat is that you can automate
structured data and you capturethose and making sure that
there's high data integrity umthat that gets entered uh
(16:57):
consistently by an AI agent.
That's one persona.
The other persona was dataexploration um agents.
If you look at your co-pilotright now, or yeah, your
co-pilot in M365, there's a Ithink it's called research, if I
recall, uh researcher uh agent,if I I'm trying to look it up
right now, just for um orexplore uh yes, I think it
(17:21):
that's what it is.
It's like um a researcher.
So it it it's it's available foryou now.
Uh well, they'll do deepresearch.
Um, I think Gemini does the samething.
Uh so that is targeted foranalysts and uh and BI experts.
Right?
Uh now you can get data basedupon your just natural language
(17:42):
query.
Uh, for example, if you'retrying to get a give me my top
five uh customer, I know you dothat now, but it it it's not
only extracting data for you,but you can also use MCPCP MCP
server to package that up in aformat that it will
automatically email for you uhas well.
Uh or you can even have itexport into Excel because
(18:04):
there's an Excel MCP server.
So all those things uh uh get umorchestrated by a single agent.
Um the third one was a codeagent uh for developers, which
uh Brad, you're already doingthat.
And then the the the the thefourth one is the M3C5 copilot
agent for knowledge workers thatare just pulling information and
(18:26):
and and data flow.
So it a lot of stuff, man.
Uh it's a lot to digest.
SPEAKER_01 (18:33):
And I know over the next couple of months, sometimes
I wonder how much of it willstill be around because things
are moving rather quickly.
But I think there will be a lotmore of this now that these
conferences are over and uh theinformation's out there that
we'll be able to take advantageof and see the efficiency of it.
And that's the thing.
It's AI will help make peoplebecome more efficient, I
(18:55):
believe, to help with some ofthe tasks.
I don't think some things itmight be able to do, some things
uh it might need a littlecoaching, you know, that whole
human in the loop.
Yeah, which uh it will, it'll beexciting to see how it all gets
used.
I am reading a good book onthis.
I'm reading the book Vibecoding.
Uh it's a book that I wastalking with Steve Endo, and
(19:15):
Steve Endo was reading it.
We we talk about some of thisstuff, and uh it's it's a good
book.
Uh I I recommend reading it.
It's an it's an interesting bookto talk about vibe coding um and
to see some of the stuff they'vedone.
The the crazy thing is I thinkthe book was written second half
of 2024.
SPEAKER_00 (19:31):
Oh, wow.
SPEAKER_01 (19:32):
And it's already outdated in a sense.
SPEAKER_00 (19:35):
Yeah, that's so crazy, right?
SPEAKER_01 (19:37):
Technology is moving fast.
So uh with that, we have a lotof great guests lined up, and
we'll have some more informationon all of these topics.
So I'm looking forward togetting my mind filled and blown
away with some of the stuff.
SPEAKER_00 (19:53):
Well, once it settles down, right?
When everyone comes back fromconferences, uh, I think there's
a few more conferences in uhthis month and next month and in
January.
Um, but we we're gonna get asmuch uh uh guests on here.
Uh we're gonna get quiteactually quite a lot of guests
coming up.
Uh and and uh we'll be talkingabout this in detail.
Like all right, Mr.
SPEAKER_01 (20:15):
Chris.
I have to run and go try toabsorb some more information.
And then I'll talk to you soon.
Chow chow.
All right, take care.
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