February 19, 2025 • 28 mins
Ever wondered why organizing your desk can feel like climbing a mountain? Chrisy and Kerry swap tales from their cluttered worlds, where paper piles and pristine workspaces collide. While Chrisy battles the clutter jungle at home but reigns supreme in her office, Kerry finds solace in a spotless work desk while embracing a relaxed approach at home. Together, the ladies navigate the tricky waters of keeping chaos at bay, especially when home becomes the new office.
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DJ Nick (00:07):
Welcome to the Dysfunction Junkies podcast.
We may not have seen it all,but we've seen enough.
And now here are your hosts,Chrisy and Kerry.
Kerry (00:19):
All right, hello everybody, welcome back to the
Dysfunction Junkies podcast.
My name is Kerry and I'm Chrisy, and today we thought, you know
, with this wonderful weather ofthe wintertime, we're all stuck
inside.
What are we going to do, Chrisy?
Chrisy (00:34):
Well, some people will be productive, yeah, and they'll
get their house all cleaned outand organized and that sounds
so wonderful.
Where do I sign up to havesomebody come do that for me?
Kerry (00:46):
I know, really I'm fairly organized, but what the worst
place for me is my desk, because, as you know, the weeks go by,
everything.
I'm like I'll just pile it onmy desk, pile it on my desk, and
then I'll be like I'll file itlater.
Well, two months goes by andnow it's heaping and I'm like,
(01:06):
okay, I really got to do thisand it's just so hard to get
started.
But once I get started, I'mokay, but it takes me a while.
Chrisy (01:13):
Now is this your desk at home.
Kerry (01:15):
Yeah, my desk at home, oh , okay.
Chrisy (01:17):
Just out of curiosity, because I have two different
lives.
Although I work from home now,yeah, the life of my
organization at home and thenwhen I did work in an office,
and even my my office here.
It's two different, it'stotally two different places.
Ok so what's your desk like?
At work?
Do you get like real seriousand you have to have everything
(01:38):
organized there to stayproductive?
Kerry (01:40):
I do.
I do not work well in a mess,so I have to have everything
somewhat organized.
Now it'll quickly, because ofthe nature of my job, become a
disorganized craziness, but bythe end of the day, everyone,
everything, has to be stackedand neat or whatever.
And you know and I do push inmy office that, like, things
need to be kept tidy and I amdefinitely not a hoarder, I'm
(02:02):
definitely one who all gothrough things.
I'll be like, ok, this, what,what is this?
Why are these boxes sitting inhere that have been in here for,
you know, eons, you know, orwhy are we keeping this piece of
paper or whatever?
We can scan it and save itdigitally and we don't, you know
.
So at work I am definitely onpeople about like let's, let's
(02:23):
tidy this up.
I have one employee who doesn'tlike to follow that role, wow.
But there's only so much I cando, because they're kind of a
little bit above me oh yeah, yousort of just cringe and bite
your bottom.
Yeah, we're kind of like on thesame level.
I guess he's not above me, butyeah, so anyways, so, anyways
(02:44):
though, but yeah, I'm a trueGemini and there are two parts
to me.
Okay.
Chrisy (02:48):
And the home part is do what you have to to maintain a
nice, clean household when youhave kids and pets.
Kerry (02:57):
Yes.
Chrisy (02:57):
Sometimes that changes.
You know you still do what youneed to do.
Kerry (03:00):
Right.
Chrisy (03:00):
And when I worked at the office and even, like I said,
my desk here very oppositebecause I'm very relaxed at home
like piles of mail or paper.
My husband will get agitatedwith that way before me.
The kids leave something layingaround and I've tripped on it
10 times.
I'm like way ahead of italready.
(03:22):
The reason I got up and trippedon it was because I was focused
on doing something else.
Kerry (03:25):
Right.
Chrisy (03:26):
But then I'll come back and I'm focused.
So those type of things which Iknow agitate him, yeah, but
when I worked at the office andeven now I almost keep my desk,
like when I'm there.
It's like it doesn't even looklike anybody works there.
Kerry (03:39):
Oh my.
Chrisy (03:40):
Like I do get rid of everything.
I do file it.
Yeah, I am very much so weirdhow proactive I am.
Yeah, yay, to the people who Iwork for, I guess because I just
don't want it sitting aroundand being hanging over my head
that it's going to need filed,or you know, everything does get
scanned now because I justworked in offices for so long.
Kerry (04:00):
Yeah.
Chrisy (04:00):
I still have a hard time Like I'll file it long.
Yeah, I still have a hard timelike I'll file it yeah, but
everybody's like you don't haveto keep that it's scan, just
throw it out.
And now that I work from home,I have a lot of paperwork I
generate for what I doprocessing things and I was used
to when I did go in the officeonce in a while.
I would have like these hugeboxes full of all this stuff.
I did, yeah, and I'd be likewhere do you want me to put this
(04:21):
?
And they'd be like what is it?
And I'd tell them.
And they'd be like where do youwant me to put this?
And they'd be like what is it?
And I'd tell them and they'd belike shred it, what do we want
us to do with that?
Throw it in the dumpster.
And I'm like, oh, my God.
Kerry (04:33):
So now I keep it.
I use it for burn the things.
You still have to have that ina filing cabinet hard copy.
Yeah, yeah, no, I actually justoh, it was probably just about
a week ago I went through myoffice and I was like just
really reorganizing, gettingeverything all cleaned up.
You know, in the new year let'sstart off this right.
(04:55):
My problem is with my job.
I get there's so manydistractions during the day,
like I start on a project butthen 20 distractions will come
through, so I never like it'shard for me to sit down and
start to finish something.
There's too many distractions,so I get paperwork out to do
something and then throughoutthe day more things are coming
(05:15):
in, and so then I got to liketidy it up.
And you know so once in a whileI'll go in on a weekend just to
kind of like, okay, get controlof it back.
But generally everything ispretty tidy and I tidy
everything up.
And at home I'm kind of thesame way.
Now, I didn't used to always bethat way.
I used to be really bad atkeeping stuff, but my theory
began as I started moving was,every time I move, if something
(05:38):
was in the same place from whenI moved in to when I moved out.
I would seriously consider do Ireally need that item in my
life?
Why am I moving this box thatsat in this spot for five years
and I did nothing with it?
Why am I moving it again?
So that has really helped.
But now the problem is we'vebeen here for 11 years.
We haven't moved.
Things were starting to creepup.
(05:59):
You know I was like, oh,because I hadn't had a move to
do a purge.
But then this thing with mymom's house, when we sold that
and I really saw the biggerpicture of what am I doing with
all this stuff.
I've been really starting to go.
I've been much easier lettinggo of things.
So now it's like purge city.
It's like let's get rid of it.
Chrisy (06:18):
I'm still afraid that somehow I'm going to
accidentally dispose of myidentity.
Like, somehow is my socialsecurity number carved on that?
I don't know what, it's just aweird thing.
So shred it.
Well, even like something thathas nothing to do with my social
security number.
I'm just like can somebody likeput their hands on this and
(06:39):
then like so you just meditatemy information?
Kerry (06:42):
out of it.
Like just's very Just shred itthen If you're worried about
them lifting information from it, I don't know what it is.
Chrisy (06:51):
It could be a piece of furniture oh gosh, I sat on that
.
Can they tell who was sittingon this chair?
Your DNA is on that chair, ohmy God, that's.
Oh my God, that's probably whatit is.
What if they throw it somewhereand it's next to a murder scene
and then they're like, why wereyou here?
I've seen those terrible showswhere they like, oh, we found a
hair and this is probably theperson.
(07:12):
And, oh my gosh, I all I did wasthrow that chair out yeah so
I'm like I'll just keep it then,that way it doesn't go
somewhere it doesn't belong.
Keep or burn, there's no inbetween for you.
Kerry (07:21):
Yeah, I totally destroy, annihilate.
Chrisy (07:25):
Yeah, it's horrible to be that extreme and it's, it's
exhausting.
Yeah, and you want to changementally?
I will sit here and tell you Iwant to just throw my husband,
just get a roll off.
We'll throw all this stuff out.
Kerry (07:37):
Yeah.
Chrisy (07:37):
Say goodbye to it.
You don't need it.
I, my mental brain, tells me,yes, I don't need it.
Right, I will feel better ifit's not here.
Right, but the act of doing,it's going to destroy me.
Kerry (07:46):
Okay, now let me ask you this what if?
What if you left the house inthe morning, spent the day,
whatever, say, you came to myhouse for the day and then you
came home and it was alreadydone.
So you didn't have to watch theprocess and it'd be done.
Would that be any better?
Chrisy (08:02):
Yeah, probably, yeah, yes, and you're not the first
person.
I understand where you're goingwith this, because you've been
here and you're like oh, I canhelp you with this.
Kerry (08:11):
I can help you and I have a feeling that you're like I
think this could be somethinggood.
Chrisy (08:16):
Yeah, probably, as long as it's not anything that like
photos or pictures or anythinglike that.
Kerry (08:23):
But yeah, probably that would be wonderful, because if I
don't actually, if you don'thave to physically take it out
of the house into the dumpster.
This is just how horrible anddysfunctional.
I am.
Chrisy (08:34):
If my husband does and I give him the go ahead yes, Get
rid of that large piece ofsomething, Furniture or
something we don't need.
He will get it down to thestreet for trash day and it will
sit there and I this is soweird, this is so messed up I
will.
Consciously I don't want tolook outside, oh yeah.
(08:54):
Because then I'll feel like I'mgoing to start feeling weird.
Kerry (08:58):
Or that you might have to go get it and bring it in.
Chrisy (09:00):
Well, I hope not.
Okay, I have that much control.
Kerry (09:02):
So you haven't done that yet?
Chrisy (09:04):
No, okay, no, no no, but I'm like oh my God, that's my
stuff.
It's sitting outside in thecold, is it cold, is it?
Kerry (09:09):
almost like I give something Like feelings,
emotions, what is wrong with me?
Chrisy (09:17):
I've done that.
I did a little too old for that.
Kerry (09:21):
There's something so wrong with me.
But what I need to finish isthat there are certain things
Okay, so let's just take astuffed animal.
So I had this one little camelstuffed animal as a kid.
His name was, I called himPaleface so because he was like
he was like a cream, lightcolored, yeah Anyways.
So that to me growing up it hadfeelings.
It was, you know it was.
(09:42):
I had projected that on it tothis day.
If I see that, I will stillhave that same thought process
for it.
Like I found it in a, in a box,you know, when I moved and I
was going through boxes I'm like, oh, these are all my stuffies.
And I'm like, oh, there's paleface.
And then I couldn't put it backin that storage.
I had to put it out in the roombecause I'm like you can't
breathe in that storage box.
So I know what you're sayingand, yes, as an adult I don't
(10:06):
apply those things to new things, but the things I had as a
child still have retained theirlivingness.
Chrisy (10:13):
Yes, In that sense you and I are very much similar
because, oh and stuffed animals,they're so cute, they get you
every time and mentally you seethem Like, especially if you
have kids or grandkids orwhoever you want to buy these
things for they're beautiful.
I don't even know that theymean that much to kids.
Now I don't want to sit hereand presume that, but I mean,
stuffed animals were sort of abig deal for us.
(10:34):
They were a security for us.
And I'm sure they are still forchildren, and I'm sure they are
still for children.
You know parents get funnyabout them, reasonably so
because they hold dust and thekids have allergies or in
general the bed bug thing.
Kerry (10:51):
I know Bed bugs freak me out.
Yeah, that's my number onefreak out.
When I go to a hotel, the veryfirst thing I do is I move that
mattress, I strip it all down,I'm inspecting that thing.
I'm terrified of bedbugs.
Chrisy (11:03):
Yeah, you know, I know we're supposed to be really
conscious of what we do to ourenvironment, but just maybe can
we do that.
Bring that.
What is the fact that theystopped?
Because it was killing birds orsomething?
Kerry (11:19):
And that's why we got bedbugs again, because they
outlawed.
Oh, the stuff that kills it.
Chrisy (11:22):
Yeah, the deet or whatever, yeah yeah, yeah,
really, I mean, come on, I meanit sounds, seems to me that I
didn't see, I don't know, peoplesuffering from deep, but I
think it was.
I know we need birds because weneed pollination, and the bees,
oh my god, it's terrifying.
No god, that's a whole otherthing just sitting around
thinking about stuff.
Yeah, bedbugs is scared, soit's stuffed animals yeah, and
my husband really.
He's just like I just want tothrow this away.
(11:43):
But then he takes them out ofthe box and they got that cute
little face on it and they'relooking at me like do you?
Kerry (11:47):
remember me, it's the velveteen rabbit story.
Chrisy (11:49):
Remember that story growing up it sounds like it's
probably horrible and uh sad,and an animal gets hurt or gets
separated from something.
Kerry (11:58):
It's a stuffed animal story like this, you know, or
the velveteen rabbit, and it wasall pretty, and then after
years of loving on it and itgets anyways and nobody wants it
anymore.
I don't remember how it ended,but I know it had something to
do with what we're talking about.
Oh, we're gonna have a wholeshow about those traumatizing
kids shows.
Chrisy (12:14):
We have a show coming up on tv and movies that may be
traumatized us but cart, therewere some and there are, yeah,
Another day.
But yeah, maybe if the stuffwas gone that would help.
And I understand, the holidaysis like prime, because
everybody's putting away theiryou know, a month or so ago.
Kerry (12:30):
Yeah.
Chrisy (12:31):
They were putting away all their holiday stuff, right,
and you're sort of hoping forspring.
Kerry (12:35):
Yes.
Chrisy (12:35):
After all of that.
So you're thinking maybe I getmy house.
It's almost like springcleaning, yes, but it's not
spring yet.
But I'll be ready.
The one thing that gets me andI should not be watching these
things Hoarders Well, oh no, Iwon't watch that.
Kerry (12:47):
Oh my gosh that will dislike completely.
Chrisy (12:51):
First of all, my husband might say oh my God, I'm living
with somebody.
Kerry (12:56):
No, trust me, you're not, I'm not that bad.
Chrisy (12:58):
The videos on social media where they show people who
organize.
This is the most ridiculousthing.
They're refrigerators.
Yeah, have you seen these?
Yeah, and they have all thesethings and then they like you
have to fill everything up to aT and they make that.
It's all that.
Is it called ASMR?
Kerry (13:12):
Yes, asmr, yes, the sounds Should we do?
Chrisy (13:16):
our show like that Maybe , more, More people will enjoy.
Kerry (13:19):
Oh yes, the sounds of smacking everything into the
tray.
Into the tray, you'll do achainsaw, chainsaw.
Where did that?
Chrisy (13:29):
come from.
Oh my gosh, I thought that usedto just be something that, like
you, would be annoyed by butpeople enjoy it.
They enjoy it, yeah, butwatching people wash all their
fruit.
Yeah, which I did, I startedwashing my fruit with baking
soda okay and sticking mystrawberries in there and I'm
like, oh, this is what I'msupposed to do, and then just
(13:50):
all and I did.
I actually bought like a few ofthose plastic plastic trays to
sort of but all I did was annoyme in there because then it was
in my way.
Kerry (13:59):
When I had to put something else in there, I'm
like there's like two yogurts inthis tray.
Chrisy (14:03):
Yeah, now what?
Now I got to take the tray out.
I don't continually restockeverything.
Kerry (14:09):
I'm not a grocery store, yeah.
Chrisy (14:13):
And the juice boxes.
I don't want my kids to havethat much juice and they'll just
go in and get it, yeah, so whywould I have 50 juices in there,
right?
And then the soda cans.
They look lovely in there, butwe don't need to be drinking all
that soda.
But the fridges look fantastic.
And then there's people who justlike clean, yeah, and they live
in these homes and they justI'm like, really, you made it
(14:35):
look that easy.
I watched you clean everythingin like less than 10 minutes
because you're editing all thatRight right, right, right oh my
God.
Kerry (14:44):
I will have to say I, you know, always clean my own house
and everything, and you know, Iknow what you mean when you
have dogs and pets and stuff.
You know you just have thisheightened sense of awareness
that you got to.
You know, keep your environmentclean Because people might
(15:04):
judge when they come over orwhatever.
But when my mom lived with usit just got to be too much
between taking care ofeverything, taking care of her
and you know I'd be surprised athow messy an 85 year old woman
can be.
But I hired a cleaning serviceand it was the first time in my
life that I ever had you know, Ihate to say the word made
because it was a cleaningservice, it was fabulous and so
when my mom moved out I was likebut I don't want to give up my
(15:26):
cleaning service.
So I still have the girl cometwice a month to clean and it's
so good.
It's one of the best mentalhealth things I think I've done
for myself.
So I still do tidying up andeverything but the deep cleaning
and stuff.
She deep cleans the bathroomand the kitchen and stuff twice
a month and yeah, it's such agood feeling.
Chrisy (15:47):
I love this.
I do.
I'm telling you it's, it's,it's worth your mental health
it's.
Kerry (15:49):
Yeah, just to do the stuff that I you know that kind
of thing would be wonderful,because it would just be one
less thing that you'd have to doyes, and it's getting done.
Chrisy (15:58):
Yes, which it needs to.
Yes, yeah, I, I'm hoping to.
Uh, I aspire to have thishappen.
Kerry (16:03):
Yes, she will yeah, so, and that's the thing too with my
house is, you know, jim's,jim's very.
He can be very well organizedand he can be very much, you
know, wants things like hepretty much routinely every
night will clean the kitchen upbefore he goes to bed, which I
love.
Thank you very much, jim.
I appreciate you are speakingmy love language right there.
But now his garage is adifferent story.
(16:26):
Like you go into his workshopwith all his tools and
everything doesn't have the samesense of organization as the
house.
So it's kind of funny, like youwere saying, your work office
space, your home office spaceand your rate, you know it's the
same thing with him his garage,maybe another he knows where
everything's at Right.
Well, that's important.
Yeah, way, you know, it's thesame thing with him his garage
maybe another he knows whereeverything's at right.
Chrisy (16:44):
Well, that's important.
Kerry (16:44):
Yeah, he knows where it's all at and he but he can be a
little bit of a hoarder he'll belike I got these oil filters.
So if something happens, youknow we got these extra oil
filters.
Well, you know, 10 years laterhe still has the oil filters.
Now we're moving.
Chrisy (16:56):
I'm like, really I gotta move these oil filters now he's
like but you never know whenyou're going to need it.
Oh yeah.
Kerry (17:01):
And I will give him credit.
There's been many times wherewe've needed something and he
was able to go into the shop anddig it out and we've had it.
But yeah, it's just sometimesyou're like, OK, you have to
know when to say when.
Chrisy (17:12):
Yeah, my husband has in a year's time.
Probably that's one of the bigthings he does.
Yeah, he cleans out the garage,I'm like he's reorganizing it.
That garage has beenreorganized way more than
anything else, he moves shelves.
He moves things, he gets rid ofstuff, yeah, and then he's in
there with a blower getting allthe dust and leaves that sort of
(17:34):
hide in there.
And yeah, he does like to sortof stay on top of that, yeah.
Kerry (17:43):
The junk drawer, though never seems to be.
I just did my junk drawer lastweekend.
Yeah, I couldn't stand it,dumped it all out, took me an
hour.
Chrisy (17:47):
What was the biggest issue in there?
Is it change?
Is it keys?
You don't know what they belongto.
Charging cords.
Kerry (17:54):
Oh yeah, and I was tired of not knowing what went to what
.
So I was like so okay, I gotlittle Ziploc baggies and I put
each carding cord in each one,figured out what they went to
and put a label on it.
So now I know, oh, these arefor the ring cameras and oh,
this is for this.
And I still have one.
I have no, still have no ideawhat it's.
(18:15):
Still, it has a question markon the bag because I don't know
what, it's still somebody hassay did you find this cord oh?
Chrisy (18:21):
maybe this, maybe this?
Is this it the mystery bag?
Yeah, mystery words.
Yeah, the cord thing is.
We have like way ahead of us onthat.
Yeah, we, I think, have justone very large Ziploc bag and
it's got a variety of cords justshoved in there.
Kerry (18:35):
Oh, you know what that mystery cord is.
Remember, you came to my houseand I said did you drop a cord?
That's the mystery cord.
I was going to ask you if thatwas it, because, remember, I
thought it might have been myhouse cleaner it wasn't hers
either.
Yeah, so I still have no ideahow this mystery cord showed up
in my driveway.
Chrisy (18:51):
It's weird.
Do you ever think, maybe, likea bird, that's possible Flying
with that?
Kerry (18:56):
Because sometimes Because that tree right there where you
parked by my driveway, isalways filled with a gazillion
birds.
I never thought about that.
Chrisy (19:02):
It stole it from somebody.
Oh my gosh, see another reasonto bring back the deet, the
birds they're like gonna try andpin us for a crime that we
didn't commit.
They're gonna drop somethinghorrible in our yard and they're
gonna be like, look, there'sevidence, I don't know how that
got there.
Kerry (19:22):
It's a charging cord from a crime, from a murder on the
other side.
Chrisy (19:25):
Somebody got strangled with that cord.
How did you get it?
I have no idea.
Swear, I wasn't there.
Kerry (19:31):
You see, these things you think of are hysterical.
You know what I'm upset about,about this whole organizing
thing.
I was cheated during COVID.
Oh, I did not get the luxury ofbeing pent up in my house with
nothing to do, do all theserenovations and organizations
and everything.
I was working my butt off.
And I was not a first responder.
(19:53):
I worked at a church but I wasvery busy because, just in the
concept of my job and what wewere, you know, trying to make
sure all our congregants weresafe and reaching out to them
and doing anything, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah.
I was busy and so was Jim.
He was, you know, working fromhome.
So we were both working fromhome.
We had, we probably worked moreduring COVID than we do, like
(20:15):
on a normal, you know, cycle oflife.
So I didn't get to, like youknow, redecorate.
I didn't get to go purgingstuff.
So I'm like, when do I get myyear off to clean my house and
purge?
Like I missed out?
Yeah, I didn't get that check.
Chrisy (20:31):
My husband has a job that required him basically to
work even harder.
Kerry (20:39):
He's not a first responder, but he's in public
health.
Chrisy (20:43):
So that basically redefined what his job really
was all about.
And my job also continued onwith the type of company I work
for.
We do supply a product that isdefinitely necessary for many,
many, many people, but I wasworking from home, so it didn't
really change how I had tooperate, the only thing.
If you were able to do that,that's wonderful, I know, but
(21:06):
when you had kids at home whoall of a sudden were no longer
at school, oh, that's true,there was a time where they
didn't go to school.
It almost made it impossible tostay on top of certain things.
Kerry (21:19):
Yeah, see, it was just Jim and I, so it was just the
two of us, and I would haveloved to have had even just a
month.
Chrisy (21:24):
So it probably didn't feel like really anything was
going on except probably moreaggravating because you couldn't
get your groceries or toiletpaper.
Yeah right, yeah, that'sprobably more aggravating
because you couldn't get yourgroceries or toilet paper.
Kerry (21:32):
Yeah, right, yeah, because I'm not a hoarder, so I
was not prepared.
You weren't prepared.
No, I was not prepared, for asmuch as you might think I'm
close to being that.
Chrisy (21:41):
The one thing I don't stock up on is probably what I
should Like toilet paper yeah.
Stuff like that, I only buywhen I need.
Yeah, I need.
Kerry (21:49):
Yeah, I didn't become like some sourdough baking queen
or anything during that time.
No, that's okay.
So, but now I am getting myhouse together and so you know
I'll go through if I have aweekend, day off or something.
Sometimes I'll be like, okay,I'm going to tackle that closet.
And so I've been doing it alittle bit at a time and I will
say it's gratifying, you know,to get there.
So I hope that you'll be ableto maybe cross that threshold.
Chrisy (22:11):
I do want to, and I hope this is the year I do.
I think we'll do it.
Kerry (22:14):
So, all right.
Here's the deal I'm running themarathon.
You need to purge.
That's our year goals.
Chrisy (22:19):
All right, because I've been sitting here I have.
I actually have really beenthinking about Carrie's making
this.
Kerry (22:24):
Well, it's a good thing, and you've done it before, so
I'm not going to sit here andsay it's some sacrifice for you
oh, it's a sacrifice, trust me,especially whenever the weather
is a freak and cold and I can'tget out there and do my long
runs right well, I understand,but I mean it's more of just a
lovely, very appreciated uhthing that you're doing in honor
of this endeavor.
Chrisy (22:44):
We've gone on and I have been sitting here thinking I've
got to come up with something.
So if it'll make you, if it'llmake your heart okay, grow 10
sizes that day, like from theground, if you come to my house
and all of a sudden you can tellthat what type of room this was
supposed to be, and not just astorage facility.
(23:05):
I I need to commit to that likeyou, committed to your marathon
.
Kerry (23:09):
So make, but start small.
Don't worry about the wholehouse, maybe just like one room.
Chrisy (23:14):
I'll do a corner.
That's a start.
That's a start.
Kerry (23:18):
I'll do my junk drawer and I'll show it to you.
You can't just take that andput it in another room.
Right, you got to get.
Chrisy (23:23):
Which is terrible to do that you have to throw it out.
You have to throw it out moved.
How many junk drawers do?
Kerry (23:39):
you have in your house?
Well, there's one in thekitchen.
I probably have one.
Probably.
There's a junk drawer in everyroom.
Okay, not my kids rooms, thankgod I haven't infiltrated theirs
.
Well, how are your?
Is like the kids?
Do they take from that?
Like like your oldest?
This is, uh, her room.
Is she a tidy or is she?
Chrisy (23:49):
like I love her to death and she's a fantastic person.
Her room is a little scary andbut you can't blame her her to
death and she's a fantasticperson.
Yeah, her room is a littlescary and but you can't blame
her then because you know she'swell nick, nick.
My husband does remind me, youknow, sometimes, when he gets
really upset with her becauseshe's not writing it up, that he
gets mad at me.
You're disorganized, and shemust see that, and so therefore
she thinks it's okay and I'mlike wow, how did this turn into
(24:11):
a smack me around thing?
Kerry (24:13):
Because, Chrissy, it's all about you remember.
Chrisy (24:15):
It is.
You know what he uses that tohis advantage.
It is all about you.
And see, she just doesn't thinkthis is the right way to be.
She needs to be more organized.
But to be honest, I mean youwere probably pretty neat at 16,
17.
Kerry (24:30):
Barely- I was.
I think I, like I needorganization to function in my
brain.
So like if I have a really bigproject to do and everything is
like a little disarray, eventhough I need to get started on
that project, I will do all thestupid little things first
because I need to clear it outso that I can let my brain work
(24:52):
on the big things.
So I think that's the bigreason why I need cleanliness is
I need organization around meso that my brain can get
organized, because my brain islike that meme where it says
I've got like 20,000 windowpages open in my brain and
they're all running at the sametime.
That that's my brain.
There's.
There's so much going on upthere.
It's crazy.
Chrisy (25:10):
Yeah, yeah.
So Well, I need to get myselfover that mountain and come down
the other side with all of this, because none of this is making
me happy, right, and you haveto just understand that, and
it's not benefiting anybody,right, and it's just a bit of a
problem.
Kerry (25:30):
So I think too, though there's also helpful because you
know we're both dealing withthings that are not in our
control in taking care ofelderly parent, right.
So there's only so much we cancontrol in that, and that's
difficult for us.
So what's nice about this typeof project is you feel there's
something you have control overyou know, so you can.
(25:51):
it is therapeutic in that waythat, okay, I can't control this
this person over here who I amcaring for but I can control
this clutter in this room andyeah, so I feel like sometimes
it was a it's calming therapyfor me when.
I do things like that becauseit helps me gain control of
something in my life, as opposedto what I can't control, Right.
Chrisy (26:13):
So yeah, I need to do that.
I need to remind myself of thatand see how good it will make
me feel, and my husband will beso elated elated, I'm sure and I
will be too.
So, junkies out there, what arewe doing?
We would love to hear yourapproach to organization.
Yeah, your approach toorganization, yeah, and highly
(26:37):
organized, uh, or are you likeme, fighting to, uh, get to a
good place?
Kerry (26:39):
or does it just not bother you at all?
Not a father at all, yeah?
Or are you a like a list maker,like, oh, okay, I need to make
a list of everything, like youknow, sometimes that's also how
I start with my word is makinglists.
So, whatever, what, how do youget through your disorganization
?
I, I guess so.
Chrisy (26:53):
Yeah, I've done the list thing and it gets lost or it's
used for something else, andthen I try to text myself and
then I can't find it becauseI've texted myself so many
things.
Kerry (27:05):
You do that a lot.
You send texts like when youhave thoughts cause.
You did that with me for theshow.
And I finally had to startcategorizing.
I'm like, I'm like I'm gonnaget a lot.
I know you texted me something,but yeah, I know.
So what's?
Chrisy (27:18):
yeah, what's your strategy?
Better about that, but yeah, soI love to hear how people
handle this, because I need totake christy needs help.
Kerry (27:26):
Yeah, I need help.
Christy needs help.
Chrisy (27:28):
I need help with a lot of things but this is one I'm
really willing to admit to andwe can help you with it.
Kerry (27:34):
Thank you All right junkies.
Well, we're looking forward tohearing all your feedback and
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Chrisy (27:51):
So we sure do get cleaning, get organizing, people
chop, chop.
Spring's on the horizon, so beready for it.
All right, bye-bye, bye-bye.
Welcome to the Dysfunction Junkies podcast.
We may not have seen it all,but we've seen enough.
And now here are your hosts,Chrisy and Kerry.
Kerry (00:19):
All right, hello everybody, welcome back to the
Dysfunction Junkies podcast.
My name is Kerry and I'm Chrisy, and today we thought, you know
, with this wonderful weather ofthe wintertime, we're all stuck
inside.
What are we going to do, Chrisy?
Chrisy (00:34):
Well, some people will be productive, yeah, and they'll
get their house all cleaned outand organized and that sounds
so wonderful.
Where do I sign up to havesomebody come do that for me?
Kerry (00:46):
I know, really I'm fairly organized, but what the worst
place for me is my desk, because, as you know, the weeks go by,
everything.
I'm like I'll just pile it onmy desk, pile it on my desk, and
then I'll be like I'll file itlater.
Well, two months goes by andnow it's heaping and I'm like,
(01:06):
okay, I really got to do thisand it's just so hard to get
started.
But once I get started, I'mokay, but it takes me a while.
Chrisy (01:13):
Now is this your desk at home.
Kerry (01:15):
Yeah, my desk at home, oh , okay.
Chrisy (01:17):
Just out of curiosity, because I have two different
lives.
Although I work from home now,yeah, the life of my
organization at home and thenwhen I did work in an office,
and even my my office here.
It's two different, it'stotally two different places.
Ok so what's your desk like?
At work?
Do you get like real seriousand you have to have everything
(01:38):
organized there to stayproductive?
Kerry (01:40):
I do.
I do not work well in a mess,so I have to have everything
somewhat organized.
Now it'll quickly, because ofthe nature of my job, become a
disorganized craziness, but bythe end of the day, everyone,
everything, has to be stackedand neat or whatever.
And you know and I do push inmy office that, like, things
need to be kept tidy and I amdefinitely not a hoarder, I'm
(02:02):
definitely one who all gothrough things.
I'll be like, ok, this, what,what is this?
Why are these boxes sitting inhere that have been in here for,
you know, eons, you know, orwhy are we keeping this piece of
paper or whatever?
We can scan it and save itdigitally and we don't, you know
.
So at work I am definitely onpeople about like let's, let's
(02:23):
tidy this up.
I have one employee who doesn'tlike to follow that role, wow.
But there's only so much I cando, because they're kind of a
little bit above me oh yeah, yousort of just cringe and bite
your bottom.
Yeah, we're kind of like on thesame level.
I guess he's not above me, butyeah, so anyways, so, anyways
(02:44):
though, but yeah, I'm a trueGemini and there are two parts
to me.
Okay.
Chrisy (02:48):
And the home part is do what you have to to maintain a
nice, clean household when youhave kids and pets.
Kerry (02:57):
Yes.
Chrisy (02:57):
Sometimes that changes.
You know you still do what youneed to do.
Kerry (03:00):
Right.
Chrisy (03:00):
And when I worked at the office and even, like I said,
my desk here very oppositebecause I'm very relaxed at home
like piles of mail or paper.
My husband will get agitatedwith that way before me.
The kids leave something layingaround and I've tripped on it
10 times.
I'm like way ahead of italready.
(03:22):
The reason I got up and trippedon it was because I was focused
on doing something else.
Kerry (03:25):
Right.
Chrisy (03:26):
But then I'll come back and I'm focused.
So those type of things which Iknow agitate him, yeah, but
when I worked at the office andeven now I almost keep my desk,
like when I'm there.
It's like it doesn't even looklike anybody works there.
Kerry (03:39):
Oh my.
Chrisy (03:40):
Like I do get rid of everything.
I do file it.
Yeah, I am very much so weirdhow proactive I am.
Yeah, yay, to the people who Iwork for, I guess because I just
don't want it sitting aroundand being hanging over my head
that it's going to need filed,or you know, everything does get
scanned now because I justworked in offices for so long.
Kerry (04:00):
Yeah.
Chrisy (04:00):
I still have a hard time Like I'll file it long.
Yeah, I still have a hard timelike I'll file it yeah, but
everybody's like you don't haveto keep that it's scan, just
throw it out.
And now that I work from home,I have a lot of paperwork I
generate for what I doprocessing things and I was used
to when I did go in the officeonce in a while.
I would have like these hugeboxes full of all this stuff.
I did, yeah, and I'd be likewhere do you want me to put this
(04:21):
?
And they'd be like what is it?
And I'd tell them.
And they'd be like where do youwant me to put this?
And they'd be like what is it?
And I'd tell them and they'd belike shred it, what do we want
us to do with that?
Throw it in the dumpster.
And I'm like, oh, my God.
Kerry (04:33):
So now I keep it.
I use it for burn the things.
You still have to have that ina filing cabinet hard copy.
Yeah, yeah, no, I actually justoh, it was probably just about
a week ago I went through myoffice and I was like just
really reorganizing, gettingeverything all cleaned up.
You know, in the new year let'sstart off this right.
(04:55):
My problem is with my job.
I get there's so manydistractions during the day,
like I start on a project butthen 20 distractions will come
through, so I never like it'shard for me to sit down and
start to finish something.
There's too many distractions,so I get paperwork out to do
something and then throughoutthe day more things are coming
(05:15):
in, and so then I got to liketidy it up.
And you know so once in a whileI'll go in on a weekend just to
kind of like, okay, get controlof it back.
But generally everything ispretty tidy and I tidy
everything up.
And at home I'm kind of thesame way.
Now, I didn't used to always bethat way.
I used to be really bad atkeeping stuff, but my theory
began as I started moving was,every time I move, if something
(05:38):
was in the same place from whenI moved in to when I moved out.
I would seriously consider do Ireally need that item in my
life?
Why am I moving this box thatsat in this spot for five years
and I did nothing with it?
Why am I moving it again?
So that has really helped.
But now the problem is we'vebeen here for 11 years.
We haven't moved.
Things were starting to creepup.
(05:59):
You know I was like, oh,because I hadn't had a move to
do a purge.
But then this thing with mymom's house, when we sold that
and I really saw the biggerpicture of what am I doing with
all this stuff.
I've been really starting to go.
I've been much easier lettinggo of things.
So now it's like purge city.
It's like let's get rid of it.
Chrisy (06:18):
I'm still afraid that somehow I'm going to
accidentally dispose of myidentity.
Like, somehow is my socialsecurity number carved on that?
I don't know what, it's just aweird thing.
So shred it.
Well, even like something thathas nothing to do with my social
security number.
I'm just like can somebody likeput their hands on this and
(06:39):
then like so you just meditatemy information?
Kerry (06:42):
out of it.
Like just's very Just shred itthen If you're worried about
them lifting information from it, I don't know what it is.
Chrisy (06:51):
It could be a piece of furniture oh gosh, I sat on that
.
Can they tell who was sittingon this chair?
Your DNA is on that chair, ohmy God, that's.
Oh my God, that's probably whatit is.
What if they throw it somewhereand it's next to a murder scene
and then they're like, why wereyou here?
I've seen those terrible showswhere they like, oh, we found a
hair and this is probably theperson.
(07:12):
And, oh my gosh, I all I did wasthrow that chair out yeah so
I'm like I'll just keep it then,that way it doesn't go
somewhere it doesn't belong.
Keep or burn, there's no inbetween for you.
Kerry (07:21):
Yeah, I totally destroy, annihilate.
Chrisy (07:25):
Yeah, it's horrible to be that extreme and it's, it's
exhausting.
Yeah, and you want to changementally?
I will sit here and tell you Iwant to just throw my husband,
just get a roll off.
We'll throw all this stuff out.
Kerry (07:37):
Yeah.
Chrisy (07:37):
Say goodbye to it.
You don't need it.
I, my mental brain, tells me,yes, I don't need it.
Right, I will feel better ifit's not here.
Right, but the act of doing,it's going to destroy me.
Kerry (07:46):
Okay, now let me ask you this what if?
What if you left the house inthe morning, spent the day,
whatever, say, you came to myhouse for the day and then you
came home and it was alreadydone.
So you didn't have to watch theprocess and it'd be done.
Would that be any better?
Chrisy (08:02):
Yeah, probably, yeah, yes, and you're not the first
person.
I understand where you're goingwith this, because you've been
here and you're like oh, I canhelp you with this.
Kerry (08:11):
I can help you and I have a feeling that you're like I
think this could be somethinggood.
Chrisy (08:16):
Yeah, probably, as long as it's not anything that like
photos or pictures or anythinglike that.
Kerry (08:23):
But yeah, probably that would be wonderful, because if I
don't actually, if you don'thave to physically take it out
of the house into the dumpster.
This is just how horrible anddysfunctional.
I am.
Chrisy (08:34):
If my husband does and I give him the go ahead yes, Get
rid of that large piece ofsomething, Furniture or
something we don't need.
He will get it down to thestreet for trash day and it will
sit there and I this is soweird, this is so messed up I
will.
Consciously I don't want tolook outside, oh yeah.
(08:54):
Because then I'll feel like I'mgoing to start feeling weird.
Kerry (08:58):
Or that you might have to go get it and bring it in.
Chrisy (09:00):
Well, I hope not.
Okay, I have that much control.
Kerry (09:02):
So you haven't done that yet?
Chrisy (09:04):
No, okay, no, no no, but I'm like oh my God, that's my
stuff.
It's sitting outside in thecold, is it cold, is it?
Kerry (09:09):
almost like I give something Like feelings,
emotions, what is wrong with me?
Chrisy (09:17):
I've done that.
I did a little too old for that.
Kerry (09:21):
There's something so wrong with me.
But what I need to finish isthat there are certain things
Okay, so let's just take astuffed animal.
So I had this one little camelstuffed animal as a kid.
His name was, I called himPaleface so because he was like
he was like a cream, lightcolored, yeah Anyways.
So that to me growing up it hadfeelings.
It was, you know it was.
(09:42):
I had projected that on it tothis day.
If I see that, I will stillhave that same thought process
for it.
Like I found it in a, in a box,you know, when I moved and I
was going through boxes I'm like, oh, these are all my stuffies.
And I'm like, oh, there's paleface.
And then I couldn't put it backin that storage.
I had to put it out in the roombecause I'm like you can't
breathe in that storage box.
So I know what you're sayingand, yes, as an adult I don't
(10:06):
apply those things to new things, but the things I had as a
child still have retained theirlivingness.
Chrisy (10:13):
Yes, In that sense you and I are very much similar
because, oh and stuffed animals,they're so cute, they get you
every time and mentally you seethem Like, especially if you
have kids or grandkids orwhoever you want to buy these
things for they're beautiful.
I don't even know that theymean that much to kids.
Now I don't want to sit hereand presume that, but I mean,
stuffed animals were sort of abig deal for us.
(10:34):
They were a security for us.
And I'm sure they are still forchildren, and I'm sure they are
still for children.
You know parents get funnyabout them, reasonably so
because they hold dust and thekids have allergies or in
general the bed bug thing.
Kerry (10:51):
I know Bed bugs freak me out.
Yeah, that's my number onefreak out.
When I go to a hotel, the veryfirst thing I do is I move that
mattress, I strip it all down,I'm inspecting that thing.
I'm terrified of bedbugs.
Chrisy (11:03):
Yeah, you know, I know we're supposed to be really
conscious of what we do to ourenvironment, but just maybe can
we do that.
Bring that.
What is the fact that theystopped?
Because it was killing birds orsomething?
Kerry (11:19):
And that's why we got bedbugs again, because they
outlawed.
Oh, the stuff that kills it.
Chrisy (11:22):
Yeah, the deet or whatever, yeah yeah, yeah,
really, I mean, come on, I meanit sounds, seems to me that I
didn't see, I don't know, peoplesuffering from deep, but I
think it was.
I know we need birds because weneed pollination, and the bees,
oh my god, it's terrifying.
No god, that's a whole otherthing just sitting around
thinking about stuff.
Yeah, bedbugs is scared, soit's stuffed animals yeah, and
my husband really.
He's just like I just want tothrow this away.
(11:43):
But then he takes them out ofthe box and they got that cute
little face on it and they'relooking at me like do you?
Kerry (11:47):
remember me, it's the velveteen rabbit story.
Chrisy (11:49):
Remember that story growing up it sounds like it's
probably horrible and uh sad,and an animal gets hurt or gets
separated from something.
Kerry (11:58):
It's a stuffed animal story like this, you know, or
the velveteen rabbit, and it wasall pretty, and then after
years of loving on it and itgets anyways and nobody wants it
anymore.
I don't remember how it ended,but I know it had something to
do with what we're talking about.
Oh, we're gonna have a wholeshow about those traumatizing
kids shows.
Chrisy (12:14):
We have a show coming up on tv and movies that may be
traumatized us but cart, therewere some and there are, yeah,
Another day.
But yeah, maybe if the stuffwas gone that would help.
And I understand, the holidaysis like prime, because
everybody's putting away theiryou know, a month or so ago.
Kerry (12:30):
Yeah.
Chrisy (12:31):
They were putting away all their holiday stuff, right,
and you're sort of hoping forspring.
Kerry (12:35):
Yes.
Chrisy (12:35):
After all of that.
So you're thinking maybe I getmy house.
It's almost like springcleaning, yes, but it's not
spring yet.
But I'll be ready.
The one thing that gets me andI should not be watching these
things Hoarders Well, oh no, Iwon't watch that.
Kerry (12:47):
Oh my gosh that will dislike completely.
Chrisy (12:51):
First of all, my husband might say oh my God, I'm living
with somebody.
Kerry (12:56):
No, trust me, you're not, I'm not that bad.
Chrisy (12:58):
The videos on social media where they show people who
organize.
This is the most ridiculousthing.
They're refrigerators.
Yeah, have you seen these?
Yeah, and they have all thesethings and then they like you
have to fill everything up to aT and they make that.
It's all that.
Is it called ASMR?
Kerry (13:12):
Yes, asmr, yes, the sounds Should we do?
Chrisy (13:16):
our show like that Maybe , more, More people will enjoy.
Kerry (13:19):
Oh yes, the sounds of smacking everything into the
tray.
Into the tray, you'll do achainsaw, chainsaw.
Where did that?
Chrisy (13:29):
come from.
Oh my gosh, I thought that usedto just be something that, like
you, would be annoyed by butpeople enjoy it.
They enjoy it, yeah, butwatching people wash all their
fruit.
Yeah, which I did, I startedwashing my fruit with baking
soda okay and sticking mystrawberries in there and I'm
like, oh, this is what I'msupposed to do, and then just
(13:50):
all and I did.
I actually bought like a few ofthose plastic plastic trays to
sort of but all I did was annoyme in there because then it was
in my way.
Kerry (13:59):
When I had to put something else in there, I'm
like there's like two yogurts inthis tray.
Chrisy (14:03):
Yeah, now what?
Now I got to take the tray out.
I don't continually restockeverything.
Kerry (14:09):
I'm not a grocery store, yeah.
Chrisy (14:13):
And the juice boxes.
I don't want my kids to havethat much juice and they'll just
go in and get it, yeah, so whywould I have 50 juices in there,
right?
And then the soda cans.
They look lovely in there, butwe don't need to be drinking all
that soda.
But the fridges look fantastic.
And then there's people who justlike clean, yeah, and they live
in these homes and they justI'm like, really, you made it
(14:35):
look that easy.
I watched you clean everythingin like less than 10 minutes
because you're editing all thatRight right, right, right oh my
God.
Kerry (14:44):
I will have to say I, you know, always clean my own house
and everything, and you know, Iknow what you mean when you
have dogs and pets and stuff.
You know you just have thisheightened sense of awareness
that you got to.
You know, keep your environmentclean Because people might
(15:04):
judge when they come over orwhatever.
But when my mom lived with usit just got to be too much
between taking care ofeverything, taking care of her
and you know I'd be surprised athow messy an 85 year old woman
can be.
But I hired a cleaning serviceand it was the first time in my
life that I ever had you know, Ihate to say the word made
because it was a cleaningservice, it was fabulous and so
when my mom moved out I was likebut I don't want to give up my
(15:26):
cleaning service.
So I still have the girl cometwice a month to clean and it's
so good.
It's one of the best mentalhealth things I think I've done
for myself.
So I still do tidying up andeverything but the deep cleaning
and stuff.
She deep cleans the bathroomand the kitchen and stuff twice
a month and yeah, it's such agood feeling.
Chrisy (15:47):
I love this.
I do.
I'm telling you it's, it's,it's worth your mental health
it's.
Kerry (15:49):
Yeah, just to do the stuff that I you know that kind
of thing would be wonderful,because it would just be one
less thing that you'd have to doyes, and it's getting done.
Chrisy (15:58):
Yes, which it needs to.
Yes, yeah, I, I'm hoping to.
Uh, I aspire to have thishappen.
Kerry (16:03):
Yes, she will yeah, so, and that's the thing too with my
house is, you know, jim's,jim's very.
He can be very well organizedand he can be very much, you
know, wants things like hepretty much routinely every
night will clean the kitchen upbefore he goes to bed, which I
love.
Thank you very much, jim.
I appreciate you are speakingmy love language right there.
But now his garage is adifferent story.
(16:26):
Like you go into his workshopwith all his tools and
everything doesn't have the samesense of organization as the
house.
So it's kind of funny, like youwere saying, your work office
space, your home office spaceand your rate, you know it's the
same thing with him his garage,maybe another he knows where
everything's at Right.
Well, that's important.
Yeah, way, you know, it's thesame thing with him his garage
maybe another he knows whereeverything's at right.
Chrisy (16:44):
Well, that's important.
Kerry (16:44):
Yeah, he knows where it's all at and he but he can be a
little bit of a hoarder he'll belike I got these oil filters.
So if something happens, youknow we got these extra oil
filters.
Well, you know, 10 years laterhe still has the oil filters.
Now we're moving.
Chrisy (16:56):
I'm like, really I gotta move these oil filters now he's
like but you never know whenyou're going to need it.
Oh yeah.
Kerry (17:01):
And I will give him credit.
There's been many times wherewe've needed something and he
was able to go into the shop anddig it out and we've had it.
But yeah, it's just sometimesyou're like, OK, you have to
know when to say when.
Chrisy (17:12):
Yeah, my husband has in a year's time.
Probably that's one of the bigthings he does.
Yeah, he cleans out the garage,I'm like he's reorganizing it.
That garage has beenreorganized way more than
anything else, he moves shelves.
He moves things, he gets rid ofstuff, yeah, and then he's in
there with a blower getting allthe dust and leaves that sort of
(17:34):
hide in there.
And yeah, he does like to sortof stay on top of that, yeah.
Kerry (17:43):
The junk drawer, though never seems to be.
I just did my junk drawer lastweekend.
Yeah, I couldn't stand it,dumped it all out, took me an
hour.
Chrisy (17:47):
What was the biggest issue in there?
Is it change?
Is it keys?
You don't know what they belongto.
Charging cords.
Kerry (17:54):
Oh yeah, and I was tired of not knowing what went to what
.
So I was like so okay, I gotlittle Ziploc baggies and I put
each carding cord in each one,figured out what they went to
and put a label on it.
So now I know, oh, these arefor the ring cameras and oh,
this is for this.
And I still have one.
I have no, still have no ideawhat it's.
(18:15):
Still, it has a question markon the bag because I don't know
what, it's still somebody hassay did you find this cord oh?
Chrisy (18:21):
maybe this, maybe this?
Is this it the mystery bag?
Yeah, mystery words.
Yeah, the cord thing is.
We have like way ahead of us onthat.
Yeah, we, I think, have justone very large Ziploc bag and
it's got a variety of cords justshoved in there.
Kerry (18:35):
Oh, you know what that mystery cord is.
Remember, you came to my houseand I said did you drop a cord?
That's the mystery cord.
I was going to ask you if thatwas it, because, remember, I
thought it might have been myhouse cleaner it wasn't hers
either.
Yeah, so I still have no ideahow this mystery cord showed up
in my driveway.
Chrisy (18:51):
It's weird.
Do you ever think, maybe, likea bird, that's possible Flying
with that?
Kerry (18:56):
Because sometimes Because that tree right there where you
parked by my driveway, isalways filled with a gazillion
birds.
I never thought about that.
Chrisy (19:02):
It stole it from somebody.
Oh my gosh, see another reasonto bring back the deet, the
birds they're like gonna try andpin us for a crime that we
didn't commit.
They're gonna drop somethinghorrible in our yard and they're
gonna be like, look, there'sevidence, I don't know how that
got there.
Kerry (19:22):
It's a charging cord from a crime, from a murder on the
other side.
Chrisy (19:25):
Somebody got strangled with that cord.
How did you get it?
I have no idea.
Swear, I wasn't there.
Kerry (19:31):
You see, these things you think of are hysterical.
You know what I'm upset about,about this whole organizing
thing.
I was cheated during COVID.
Oh, I did not get the luxury ofbeing pent up in my house with
nothing to do, do all theserenovations and organizations
and everything.
I was working my butt off.
And I was not a first responder.
(19:53):
I worked at a church but I wasvery busy because, just in the
concept of my job and what wewere, you know, trying to make
sure all our congregants weresafe and reaching out to them
and doing anything, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah.
I was busy and so was Jim.
He was, you know, working fromhome.
So we were both working fromhome.
We had, we probably worked moreduring COVID than we do, like
(20:15):
on a normal, you know, cycle oflife.
So I didn't get to, like youknow, redecorate.
I didn't get to go purgingstuff.
So I'm like, when do I get myyear off to clean my house and
purge?
Like I missed out?
Yeah, I didn't get that check.
Chrisy (20:31):
My husband has a job that required him basically to
work even harder.
Kerry (20:39):
He's not a first responder, but he's in public
health.
Chrisy (20:43):
So that basically redefined what his job really
was all about.
And my job also continued onwith the type of company I work
for.
We do supply a product that isdefinitely necessary for many,
many, many people, but I wasworking from home, so it didn't
really change how I had tooperate, the only thing.
If you were able to do that,that's wonderful, I know, but
(21:06):
when you had kids at home whoall of a sudden were no longer
at school, oh, that's true,there was a time where they
didn't go to school.
It almost made it impossible tostay on top of certain things.
Kerry (21:19):
Yeah, see, it was just Jim and I, so it was just the
two of us, and I would haveloved to have had even just a
month.
Chrisy (21:24):
So it probably didn't feel like really anything was
going on except probably moreaggravating because you couldn't
get your groceries or toiletpaper.
Yeah right, yeah, that'sprobably more aggravating
because you couldn't get yourgroceries or toilet paper.
Kerry (21:32):
Yeah, right, yeah, because I'm not a hoarder, so I
was not prepared.
You weren't prepared.
No, I was not prepared, for asmuch as you might think I'm
close to being that.
Chrisy (21:41):
The one thing I don't stock up on is probably what I
should Like toilet paper yeah.
Stuff like that, I only buywhen I need.
Yeah, I need.
Kerry (21:49):
Yeah, I didn't become like some sourdough baking queen
or anything during that time.
No, that's okay.
So, but now I am getting myhouse together and so you know
I'll go through if I have aweekend, day off or something.
Sometimes I'll be like, okay,I'm going to tackle that closet.
And so I've been doing it alittle bit at a time and I will
say it's gratifying, you know,to get there.
So I hope that you'll be ableto maybe cross that threshold.
Chrisy (22:11):
I do want to, and I hope this is the year I do.
I think we'll do it.
Kerry (22:14):
So, all right.
Here's the deal I'm running themarathon.
You need to purge.
That's our year goals.
Chrisy (22:19):
All right, because I've been sitting here I have.
I actually have really beenthinking about Carrie's making
this.
Kerry (22:24):
Well, it's a good thing, and you've done it before, so
I'm not going to sit here andsay it's some sacrifice for you
oh, it's a sacrifice, trust me,especially whenever the weather
is a freak and cold and I can'tget out there and do my long
runs right well, I understand,but I mean it's more of just a
lovely, very appreciated uhthing that you're doing in honor
of this endeavor.
Chrisy (22:44):
We've gone on and I have been sitting here thinking I've
got to come up with something.
So if it'll make you, if it'llmake your heart okay, grow 10
sizes that day, like from theground, if you come to my house
and all of a sudden you can tellthat what type of room this was
supposed to be, and not just astorage facility.
(23:05):
I I need to commit to that likeyou, committed to your marathon
.
Kerry (23:09):
So make, but start small.
Don't worry about the wholehouse, maybe just like one room.
Chrisy (23:14):
I'll do a corner.
That's a start.
That's a start.
Kerry (23:18):
I'll do my junk drawer and I'll show it to you.
You can't just take that andput it in another room.
Right, you got to get.
Chrisy (23:23):
Which is terrible to do that you have to throw it out.
You have to throw it out moved.
How many junk drawers do?
Kerry (23:39):
you have in your house?
Well, there's one in thekitchen.
I probably have one.
Probably.
There's a junk drawer in everyroom.
Okay, not my kids rooms, thankgod I haven't infiltrated theirs
.
Well, how are your?
Is like the kids?
Do they take from that?
Like like your oldest?
This is, uh, her room.
Is she a tidy or is she?
Chrisy (23:49):
like I love her to death and she's a fantastic person.
Her room is a little scary andbut you can't blame her her to
death and she's a fantasticperson.
Yeah, her room is a littlescary and but you can't blame
her then because you know she'swell nick, nick.
My husband does remind me, youknow, sometimes, when he gets
really upset with her becauseshe's not writing it up, that he
gets mad at me.
You're disorganized, and shemust see that, and so therefore
she thinks it's okay and I'mlike wow, how did this turn into
(24:11):
a smack me around thing?
Kerry (24:13):
Because, Chrissy, it's all about you remember.
Chrisy (24:15):
It is.
You know what he uses that tohis advantage.
It is all about you.
And see, she just doesn't thinkthis is the right way to be.
She needs to be more organized.
But to be honest, I mean youwere probably pretty neat at 16,
17.
Kerry (24:30):
Barely- I was.
I think I, like I needorganization to function in my
brain.
So like if I have a really bigproject to do and everything is
like a little disarray, eventhough I need to get started on
that project, I will do all thestupid little things first
because I need to clear it outso that I can let my brain work
(24:52):
on the big things.
So I think that's the bigreason why I need cleanliness is
I need organization around meso that my brain can get
organized, because my brain islike that meme where it says
I've got like 20,000 windowpages open in my brain and
they're all running at the sametime.
That that's my brain.
There's.
There's so much going on upthere.
It's crazy.
Chrisy (25:10):
Yeah, yeah.
So Well, I need to get myselfover that mountain and come down
the other side with all of this, because none of this is making
me happy, right, and you haveto just understand that, and
it's not benefiting anybody,right, and it's just a bit of a
problem.
Kerry (25:30):
So I think too, though there's also helpful because you
know we're both dealing withthings that are not in our
control in taking care ofelderly parent, right.
So there's only so much we cancontrol in that, and that's
difficult for us.
So what's nice about this typeof project is you feel there's
something you have control overyou know, so you can.
(25:51):
it is therapeutic in that waythat, okay, I can't control this
this person over here who I amcaring for but I can control
this clutter in this room andyeah, so I feel like sometimes
it was a it's calming therapyfor me when.
I do things like that becauseit helps me gain control of
something in my life, as opposedto what I can't control, Right.
Chrisy (26:13):
So yeah, I need to do that.
I need to remind myself of thatand see how good it will make
me feel, and my husband will beso elated elated, I'm sure and I
will be too.
So, junkies out there, what arewe doing?
We would love to hear yourapproach to organization.
Yeah, your approach toorganization, yeah, and highly
(26:37):
organized, uh, or are you likeme, fighting to, uh, get to a
good place?
Kerry (26:39):
or does it just not bother you at all?
Not a father at all, yeah?
Or are you a like a list maker,like, oh, okay, I need to make
a list of everything, like youknow, sometimes that's also how
I start with my word is makinglists.
So, whatever, what, how do youget through your disorganization
?
I, I guess so.
Chrisy (26:53):
Yeah, I've done the list thing and it gets lost or it's
used for something else, andthen I try to text myself and
then I can't find it becauseI've texted myself so many
things.
Kerry (27:05):
You do that a lot.
You send texts like when youhave thoughts cause.
You did that with me for theshow.
And I finally had to startcategorizing.
I'm like, I'm like I'm gonnaget a lot.
I know you texted me something,but yeah, I know.
So what's?
Chrisy (27:18):
yeah, what's your strategy?
Better about that, but yeah, soI love to hear how people
handle this, because I need totake christy needs help.
Kerry (27:26):
Yeah, I need help.
Christy needs help.
Chrisy (27:28):
I need help with a lot of things but this is one I'm
really willing to admit to andwe can help you with it.
Kerry (27:34):
Thank you All right junkies.
Well, we're looking forward tohearing all your feedback and
again, if you're listening to usfrom a streaming device, please
give us a five-star rating orhit that like follow or
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We really appreciate yoursupport.
We sure do.
Get cleaning, get organizingpeople, your support.
Chrisy (27:51):
So we sure do get cleaning, get organizing, people
chop, chop.
Spring's on the horizon, so beready for it.
All right, bye-bye, bye-bye.
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