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DJ Nick (00:07):
Welcome to the Dysfunction Junkies podcast,
where we may not have seen itall, but we've seen enough.
And now here are your hosts,Chrisy and Kerry.
Kerry (00:20):
Hello.
Chrisy (00:21):
Junkies, I'm Kerry and I'm Chrissy, and we have a
special treat for you today,Kerry, go.
Kerry (00:30):
Yes, we do have something exciting to talk about.
Well, we have heard so muchfeedback about some of our best
episodes, and especially when weaired our uncut version a few
weeks ago of our Ash Wednesdayepisode, so we thought we would
start a flashback Fridays.
What we're going to do is, oncea month, we will feature a
(00:52):
throwback episode, and at timesthese episodes you know they
might have extra content that wedidn't put on the original
version, or maybe Chrissy and Iwill give you some insights from
the show afterwards.
Anyways, we are really excitedabout this.
So for our first ThrowbackFriday, it's only appropriate
(01:12):
that we start with our numberone downloaded episode from the
very beginning.
The most dysfunctional time ofyear the holidays.
So sit back, relax and enjoy.
Chrisy (01:25):
Enjoy everybody.
Kerry (01:26):
Hi everybody, welcome Dysfunction Junkies and welcome
to your safe space.
I'm Keri and I'm Chrissy, sotoday we are going to talk about
, in light of the recent past,halloween and upcoming
Thanksgiving holidays.
We're going to talk about thecreme de la creme of family
(01:46):
dysfunction the best time of theyear the holidays.
Chrisy (01:50):
The lovely holiday season is upon us, that's right.
Kerry (01:53):
So, Christy, where should we even start?
Chrisy (01:55):
Oh, we're going to start with my favorite one, which is
Halloween.
It should be the only holidayout there.
It's perfect.
Kerry (02:02):
Not a fan, just not a fan .
Why do you like Halloween somuch?
Chrisy (02:08):
Well, probably first of all didn't really understand why
you would like it the most outof the holidays, and I say that
because it's great while it'shappening but I am a lover of.
Christmas and Thanksgiving.
I do like holidays, even thoughmost of them have been
disasters for me in the past anda lot of people.
But because you don't reallyhave any pressure of family for
(02:28):
Halloween.
Kerry (02:29):
That is a great point.
I never thought about that.
Maybe I need to reconsider mythoughts on Halloween, probably.
Chrisy (02:36):
And maybe some people didn't get into Halloween, like
maybe family and stuff doesn'treally promote Halloween because
it is not one of those holidaysyou could really muck up with
family traditions.
Yeah, I mean, this is true,it's a tough one.
Kerry (02:51):
It is.
Yeah, we did not celebrateHalloween in my house.
I think part of it was becausewe lived out in the country and
you know, like I've mentionedbefore, there was two cemeteries
and then there was like twoolder people there wasn't really
kids, so there was like liketwo older people, there wasn't
really kids, so there wasnothing to enjoy, there was no
neighborhood community, therewas no trick or treating.
So, you know, we just didn'tcelebrate it.
Chrisy (03:11):
I don't know you said you're by the two cemeteries.
I think you're actually was in.
That was an ideal spot forparty time for me, but that's
could have been.
Kerry (03:19):
That could have been, but you know, it was like that was
Halloween all year round, thoughfor us, because you lived on
the house or the street with twocemeteries staring at the
cemetery.
Right, exactly, and we kind ofgrew up with a ghost in the
house, so you know the wholelike who goes scary?
Well, that was calm.
That was every day for me, soevery day was Halloween, I guess
.
Chrisy (03:39):
Yeah, you're definitely.
That is going to be definitelyyour story to tell.
I will sit here and be a goodlistener.
Kerry (03:47):
Maybe another episode will save that one.
Chrisy (03:49):
Yes, Some people will be rolling their eyes at that
because I have had someexperiences myself.
But we have some disbelieversin the room and since there's
only one other person.
They know who they are.
Kerry (04:00):
Yes, DJ Nick, total disbeliever.
So did your family decorate forHalloween?
Yes, dj Nick.
Yeah, total disbeliever.
Chrisy (04:07):
So did your family decorate for Halloween?
Yes, back a long time ago, whenI was real little, we had those
traditional Halloweendecorations, those 1970s, 1960s,
70s, the ones you just tape upon your windows the cats, the
crazy they're so retro, they'regreat yes.
In fact, I think you can stillbuy them.
(04:27):
I think I've tried to scorethem in the past and I probably
need to get some new ones,because they just really scream
my childhood.
Kerry (04:34):
Yeah, we didn't decorate hardly at all.
If we did any kind ofdecorating, it was the fall
decorating.
So you might have seen apumpkin on our porch, you might
have seen a corn stalk, you knowthat kind of fall thing that
somewhat carries over withHalloween, but nothing in the
fact of like, no ghost in theyard or no spider webs anywhere
(04:54):
or no stickums on the windows,none of that.
Chrisy (04:58):
No, well, some people get really, really out there.
I, as an adult, I got morecrazy.
Kerry (05:03):
Okay.
Chrisy (05:04):
Now we just pretty much stuck with those things.
On the windows Right A pumpkinwas carved.
That's pretty much it.
Now I was a little bit older,sort of going to junior high.
My dad would decorate a littlebit more.
He happened to take back whenwe used to get those great happy
meals.
Kerry (05:18):
Oh yeah, with the pumpkin and the ghost and all that.
Chrisy (05:22):
My father created.
He basically destroyed thesesome of them, which is kind of a
bummer now, but stuck a hole inthem, created these things,
turned them into lights bystringing lights through them
and he used to put on our frontbay window where I lived.
It looked like a pumpkin face.
Oh my gosh, it was actuallypretty cool because the two
Happy Meal things were the eyesoh my gosh.
(05:44):
And then he had a string oflike pumpkin lights that were
the mouth.
So it looked very cool, right,but it's kind of heartbreaking
now to think that he put a holein those Happy Meal buckets and
basically useless.
I did salvage some that are nottampered with.
Kerry (06:01):
But that also means you got to eat a lot of McDonald's
and Happy Meals.
Chrisy (06:04):
Oh boy, did I, oh yeah not tampered with, but but that
also means you got to eat a lotof mcdonald's and happy meals.
Kerry (06:08):
Boy did I.
Oh yeah, see, that was it.
And it showed.
A lot times too.
That was a privilege in ourhouse.
That was like a it's yourbirthday, you get to decide
where you want to go out to eat,and that was it was usually
mcdonald's was the price range.
So like mcdonald's was like aonce a year thing for us.
Chrisy (06:21):
Oh my god I know, I can know, I can't even know.
It's just like I only got theorange and the white pumpkins.
I need the other color.
I mean how many I got to keepgoing yeah there was no control
over that in my house, oh my God, so did you get my father's
order wrong, because then youhad to do.
That's a whole other episodewhen you got dad's fast food
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order wrong.
Kerry (06:46):
Oh no, stay tuned for that.
There you go.
So did you go trick-or-treating?
Absolutely?
Oh my gosh.
Yes, I did not gotrick-or-treating until I was
probably in seventh grade.
Oh my god, I know well.
No, come on, I'm not kiddingyou, I'm serious.
Again, what am I gonna do?
Go to the graveyard, knock,knock, knock, trick-or-treat to
the grave come on well, thesedays people, they take their
(07:06):
kids to.
Chrisy (07:07):
You know, we saw this a lot later on growing up because
some neighborhoods weren't safe,yes, or at least the families
didn't think they felt safethere.
So a lot of times you wouldhave truck them to the good
neighborhoods.
Kerry (07:20):
They would With the better candy.
Chrisy (07:22):
And when I was younger I would get hostile about this,
Like who the heck is this?
You know, I don't know whothese people are.
But you get older and then youhave kids of your own and you
realize you know you really justwant your kids to have a good
experience, yeah, and you wantthem to be safe, Right.
Kerry (07:37):
Well, that is why I didn't go trick or treating
until seventh or eighth gradeBecause, again, didn't have a
neighborhood, didn't have aneighborhood, didn't celebrate
halloween.
But when I was in, you know,seventh and eighth grade, I had
a friend who lived in a realneighborhood and so I got to go
over her house and gotrick-or-treating with her and
spend the night at her house.
So I was one of those kids whoinfiltrated your neighborhood
because we didn't have aneighbor but you were
(07:59):
grandfathered and you came witha oh, I was grandfathered
because you were resident.
Chrisy (08:02):
you were with a resident .
You were with.
I was grandfathered in Well,because you were with a resident
.
You were with somebody.
Yeah, I mean that's allowed.
I had a pass.
You had a pass, yes.
Kerry (08:11):
So oh yeah, there's a whole thing.
Chrisy (08:13):
We live in a neighborhood that has a specific
Halloween time, which isestablished, sort of, by the
families here and then is givenout to the families through our
HOA and we're pretty metric, andthen is given out to the
families through our HOA Uh-huh,and we're pretty metriced here.
Yeah, that, and this is adifferent animal where I live
now compared to where I was.
That it's just for neighborhood.
Oh, our neighborhood, kids andgrandchildren.
Kerry (08:37):
Do they shut the street down and have someone call
monitoring the streets?
Chrisy (08:40):
No, oh, okay, but if you give out that information about
when our trick-or-treat times,are you can be tried and, I bet,
hung Burned at the stake.
Yes, so don't you dare give outthat top secret information,
because now, where I grew up,and where you grew up too, you
had established trick-or-treattimes depending on what side of
(09:02):
town you were on, and you knowlike you were outside of the
city of Youngstown, so youprobably maybe would have had a
different time.
Kerry (09:10):
Yeah, we probably did.
Chrisy (09:11):
Youngstown had its own time and what's funny is you can
sort of you know whatneighborhoods if you look back
at that now are safe and whichones aren't by what time?
Yeah, because I think in thecity of Youngstown now you have
have to trick or treat on Sundaybetween 10, 30 am and right
after lunch, and then you haveto.
You're done, yeah, and thenyou'd like look at somewhere
like where you were in.
Kerry (09:32):
Austintown or Boardman 7 pm at night.
Chrisy (09:34):
Oh, Camfield, I bet.
You can trick or treat thereall day until midnight.
Exactly those lucky people overthere you're like, yeah,
someone's getting all the candy.
What was your favoritehalloween costume?
I think I dressed up as like avampire.
Quite a few times I am a bigfan of and our generation knows
this, although you didn'tparticipate as much, so maybe
(09:55):
you don't they were called.
They're the costumes you wouldhave got at woolworth or the
drug stores.
Yeah, I actually know the nameof these things because, of the
guy who sort of is the artistbehind the whole idea of it, ben
Cooper.
Okay, costumes, which werethose hideous hard masks with a
teeny tiny hole for your mouthand the little pinholes for your
eyes, and then, basically, itwas a garbage, an elaborate
(10:19):
garbage bag, yes, with a designon it.
Kerry (10:22):
Ben Cooper, yes, and I have a.
Chrisy (10:23):
T-shirt which I should have worn, but it has the Ben
Cooper faces on it.
I'll have to wear it.
Maybe we'll post it, so peoplecan see.
Kerry (10:30):
That would be great.
Chrisy (10:30):
It has the most famous Ben Cooper mask Nowadays.
You look at this and you'd haveto say this is beautiful
artwork.
If you're a fan of that kind ofpulp kind of type thing, it's
really a unique type of thingand they're kind of cool to
collect.
They came in these perfectlittle boxes yes where the mask
was right, in the little windowyeah, they're scary oh my god,
they're so exciting when you go,and they had them all lined up
(10:51):
in the store hills.
Yeah, woolworth, what's so funnyis they have a commercial that
floats around on youtubeadvertising for those costumes
at halloween time and gettingall your candy at woolworth's.
And then they hold up this LP,a record album.
They said this is like $1.79with your purchase.
I still have that album.
Kerry (11:10):
You do not.
Chrisy (11:10):
Yes, it's a spooky Halloween album and again, the
artwork on these albums isfantastic.
Kerry (11:16):
Oh, my gosh, if you like that kind of stuff, but when you
did finally, trick-or-treat.
Do you remember what you dressedup as the very first one?
I remember is the very firsttime I went to my friend's house
.
I was going to be a pirateBecause I had no concept of what
this trick-or-treating and whatphysical labor involved.
(11:38):
I thought it would be great tohave a peg leg, and so I I got
my jeans on and I had my leglike folded, like you know, bent
so in my jeans so that it endedat the knee.
And then my dad cut off like apiece of wood or whatever, and
we tied it to the bottom.
So I was literally hoppingaround on one leg because I was
a peg leg.
And so I get to my friend'shouse, all excited like ha ha ha
(12:01):
, look at this great costume.
And the mom and dad my friend'smom and dad looked at me in
total horror, like how are yougoing to trick or treat?
And I'm like, well, I hoppedhere, like you know, from the
car.
I'm like it was no problem, Icould do it.
And they literally went and gotcrutches for me.
They're like, yeah, you're notgonna make it.
Oh, my gosh, that's how naive Iwas.
Yeah, let's just say I think bythree houses.
(12:22):
I went back and, like I took, Ipulled my leg out of the jean
and we had to, like, start allover.
Chrisy (12:26):
So yeah, I'm guessing they were looking at you and
thought now she's become aliability, because how am I
supposed to run from?
The whole idea of Halloween isjust getting from house to house
quickly to get more and more ofthat junk in your bag.
Kerry (12:40):
I just never forget the look on the parents face.
They were just like oh my God.
Chrisy (12:47):
Well, hey, that's amazing, but your heart was in
it.
Kerry (12:50):
Yeah, it was, yeah, it was.
So how do you think thatHalloween is dysfunctional going
with our theme of our podcasthere?
Chrisy (12:57):
Well, I think I'm sure there was always some level of
dysfunction with it, but now thewhole idea of having to think
about it yeah, so early.
Kerry (13:06):
Yeah.
Chrisy (13:07):
It blows my mind and people are trying to.
You know, look, when I waslittle, getting excited about
something you knew was going tobe coming up was fun.
Yeah, but I'm talking, you knowlittle.
Kerry (13:18):
Yeah.
Chrisy (13:18):
You know you're a kid.
Kerry (13:20):
Right and.
Chrisy (13:21):
I think it's so desensitizing when you go to a
store in July or August even,and you see pumpkins and I know
they really push all this onsocial media and how fun it is
and people make these fun videosabout how soon as independence
day is over, yeah, I'm gettingmy pumpkins out, you know, and I
feel like it sort of just takesaway from that, I know, because
(13:44):
it's such a long buildup.
Kerry (13:46):
Yeah, but for what?
To me there's.
Chrisy (13:49):
I mean I like the buildup to Christmas, but for
Halloween Well there are a lotof movies to get in in that time
period.
Kerry (13:57):
Yes, there are movies.
Chrisy (13:58):
And if you like movies Halloween-themed type stuff you
need to start watching them,unless you just don't have a
life at all and that's all youhave to do.
Yeah, we could talk about scarymovies.
Kerry (14:08):
Yes, we've talked a little bit about this.
You introduced me to my veryfirst scary movie.
Chrisy (14:13):
How?
I don't remember I know, youremember.
I know, but for some reason Imust have just did my damage and
moved on.
Kerry (14:21):
Yeah, you damaged me, that's for sure.
So I was always terrified of,you know, like scary things.
You know, I just didn't like.
I didn't like scary movies.
But I remember, like oursophomore year no, it was
probably our junior year,because we met in sophomore year
, so halloween was probablyalready passed it was probably
our junior year that you got meto watch children of the corn
(14:44):
and I think I watched most ofthe movie.
Looking between my fingers, I'mjust terrified, terrified.
I don't even know if I gotthrough the whole movie.
Chrisy (14:55):
So well, I'm surprised I started with that one, because
generally my go-to fortraumatizing and I have a friend
who I grew up with in myneighborhood.
If she's listening she knowsI'm talking about her right now.
It was the Exorcist.
That was always my intro to letme see if I can get it.
So you can't sleep for a whileand sit here and giggle at you
(15:15):
while you squirm watching thisstuff.
Kerry (15:17):
Yeah, and see, I think the reason why I finally got you
not to watch that one with ormake me watch that one, it was
just a little bit too close tohome because we had a ghost in
our house and being verycatholic like that was just like
taboo I don't think.
Chrisy (15:32):
I just didn't know.
If you're catholic, that'staboo.
It's got a priest in it.
It's got two priests in it.
I don't know it's perfect forthe catholics.
Everybody run out from thecatholic church and go, if you
haven't seen it.
Kerry (15:45):
Shame on you, I don't know.
In fact, honestly, I can't ever.
I can't say that I've watchedthat movie and it's entirely.
Even to this day.
Chrisy (15:52):
I've seen pieces of it you know what I was really upset
about?
I don't know who cleaned up thefloor after the little girl
peed on it.
It wasn't like the fact thatshe was like completely
possessed by the devil.
I'm like man.
This woman was having a partyand this little girl came down
to ruin the whole thing becauseshe urinated all over the carpet
.
Kerry (16:14):
Somebody's gonna clean that up, right somebody's gotta
clean it up, yeah, and get backto the party and get her back in
her room.
Chrisy (16:20):
She's obviously a real downer for this event oh my gosh
, that's so funny.
Kerry (16:25):
Yeah, yeah.
So I'm just not a halloween fan.
The more we talk about, themore I'm like yep, nope, can't
do it.
Chrisy (16:32):
And the decorations.
Kerry (16:33):
I just have to get back to that, because the decorations
they just like.
Right now people are justfeeling like you know we're
seeing the yards.
You know people are starting totake things down because
Halloween's passed, but stillsome of them keep them up all
year round.
But then you got thoseinflatables.
Chrisy (16:50):
Oh boy, here we go.
Oh God, Inflatables,Inflatables.
Yeah, I never understoodinflatables.
They weren't always around.
No, that was a new thing Backin the.
I don't remember them being athing when I was real little,
which would have been in the 70sor when I was young, into the
80s.
Kerry (17:07):
I feel like they came around in the early 90s.
Must have been in the 90ssomewhere and look, it's a great
concept.
Chrisy (17:12):
And you get a way better representation of things with
these lovely wannabe Macy's Dayparade inflatables.
But you put them in your yard.
I didn't understand the conceptof them when they first came
out and I would see them andthey started popping up
literally.
Them when they first came out,and I would see them and they
started popping up literally andI would drive past and I would
(17:34):
be like, oh my God, there's likethis big Halloween balloon of
some sort in their yard and Iwould drive by and be like, okay
, you know, it's lit up, it'snight, it looks nice.
And then the next morning I goout and I see the remnants of it
laying on the ground,completely deflated.
And maybe this is a Youngstownthing.
But I thought right away thefirst thing that came to mind
was somebody drove by and shotthese damn things down.
Oh my gosh, I said, why arethey not pumped?
(17:55):
Somebody shot them.
I guess that'll tell you Don'tput balloons in your yard,
Someone's going to come by andjust peg them out with a gun.
So then I would drive by thenext night, you know, and the
damn thing's up and smiling likean ass and waving at you and
I'd be like, holy shit, theypumped it back up.
They must have gotten a nicelittle patch on that damn thing,
(18:16):
chrissy, you did not.
I didn't realize that you haddeflated them.
I thought they just stayedpumped up until you took the
shitty things down.
So then the next morning I'ddrive by and they're down again.
I'm like, god damn it, somebody.
Really, they're dedicated.
They don't want that shit inyour yard.
Quit blowing that shit back up.
Somebody keeps shooting.
(18:37):
You better watch, because it'snot going to just be that that's
going to get shot.
You're going to be walkingaround.
Someone's going to nail youwith a flipping bullet too.
Stop blowing these stupidthings up.
Oh my.
Kerry (18:47):
God, I had no idea, chrissy.
How long did it take you beforeyou realized that?
Chrisy (18:51):
Probably about five or six times dropping by.
Kerry (18:55):
Oh my God, you're too much.
But the sad thing is, I cantotally understand why you
thought that, given the generalvicinity of where we live and
things that happen here.
Chrisy (19:06):
Well yeah, as soon as you see something laying in a
yard that doesn't look well, youfigured something got shot.
Something got shot.
You think somebody noticed that, I don't know.
Kerry (19:16):
Oh my gosh, yeah, I'm definitely not a fan of the
inflatables.
Like I think when it firststarted and they had like one,
it was like oh, that's kind ofcool.
But now, like like, evengetting into the christmas
holidays, you know where people,you know they had all the
decorations, you know.
And then, but now you'll godrive by a house that has like
I'm not kidding you, there's twohouses that, I swear to god,
(19:36):
have 50 or 60 of theseinflatables, one after another,
and I'm like, okay, now thatthat's just, that's just lazy.
You know, if you're, if you'regonna, if you're gonna go out,
do you Chevy Chase NationalLampoon's decorating?
Chrisy (19:50):
I agree, I agree.
Kerry (19:52):
I'm sure we'll talk about Christmas more closer to the
season, but the inflatables atHalloween or those really big
15-foot tall skeletons, Really.
Chrisy (20:02):
And then they leave them up all year round.
Kerry (20:04):
Well, no, no, no, and they put a Santa Claus hat on
the skeleton.
Chrisy (20:07):
Really Well.
They're very devoted to theirspecific holiday.
I guess, that's their holiday,soul, you know.
There's Halloween and they'regoing to go with it.
I don't understand buying ablack Christmas tree and putting
orange lights on it andsticking the night before.
Whatever that Tim Burton movieis, which I know I'm a movie
person, but I didn't actuallysit through Twins the Night
before Christmas.
(20:28):
I'm sorry, I like the otherstuff.
I just haven't sat through thatyet.
Kerry (20:32):
I guess I should say, though, too, is you know, this
is just our personal experiences.
These are our thoughts, theseare our feelings.
And for those of you that youknow are avid Halloween
decorators, and everything, andyou love your little Halloween
inflatables Wonderful.
Chrisy (20:45):
Halloween inflatables Wonderful.
There's an industry for thatRight.
Keeping people.
I don't know exactly what typeof people you're keeping in
business, but you're keepingpeople working and I am an
advocate of you.
Kerry (20:54):
do you?
Yes, yes, absolutely.
So hey, you do you.
You keep going.
I'm just saying for me I don'tget it, but I respect the
dedication that people have tome.
Chrisy (21:05):
And they are dedicated.
And probably the only way youcan scare me is if you sneak to
where I live and you put up aninflatable in my yard and I wake
up and there's this crazyballoon staring oh my god that
would be terrifying to me.
Nothing else, not the exorcist,except maybe the little girl
peeing on the floor.
So, and halloween?
When you think about it, it islike a totally dysfunctional
(21:27):
idea.
Though, though.
Yeah, first of all, it's basedon dead Right Death.
You know they say oh, it'sabout people, that one night of
the year that the dead peoplecan come back Right.
Whoever started that rumor?
Not exactly sure about that.
Somebody obviously wantedpeople to stay home.
Kerry (21:41):
And then they love their family so much they actually
wanted them to come back.
I don't know that kind of love.
I don't know.
Chrisy (21:49):
That would be interesting.
You get to do stuff withsomething else.
Kerry (21:53):
Yeah.
Chrisy (21:53):
So you get to pretend, which is okay, wonderful, and
you go and you beg for stuff atpeople's houses and sometimes
you say horrible things aboutsmelling feet and stuff.
Kerry (22:02):
I never understood that Trick or treat Smell my feet,
give me something good to eat.
Chrisy (22:05):
Yeah, I treat.
Smell my feet.
Give me something good to eat.
Yeah, I'm not exactly sure youwant to do that.
These days, you might getsomething you're not bargaining,
this is true.
Careful kids, yes no I'm a bigfan of halloween.
I do love halloween.
I like halloween decorating.
I like the halloween not somuch.
As I've gotten older, I'm notinto the scary movies.
I've not seen all these newfinagle oh yeah saw, never saw,
I never saw, a saw never saw asaw, never saw a saw, never saw
(22:28):
it.
Just because as you get older,at least for me, it's just a
little too.
Life becomes scary in itself.
Kerry (22:36):
Yep, that is a really good point, and I don't need
something to try and scare me.
Chrisy (22:39):
I'm terrified.
I can do it on my own.
Kerry (22:41):
Yes, I get scared going through the car wash, I mean,
and that'll be a whole notherepisode.
But yeah, I don't need to putvisuals in my head on watching a
movie.
No, no.
Chrisy (22:52):
But my favorite thing though, if you really I think
people are ageing, and if you'reyounger and you enjoy this too,
the cartoon Halloween stuff.
I love the pumpkin thatcouldn't smile with Raggedy Ann
and Andy.
Kerry (23:04):
I love it.
Chrisy (23:05):
It's hilarious.
My husband, who I don't thinkwatched any of these things too
much growing up, I mean ofcourse he saw the Great Pumpkin
with.
Kerry (23:12):
Charlie Brown, the typical stuff, the.
Chrisy (23:14):
Garfield Halloween special was big once we were
kind of in junior high, butstill that's a classic.
There's a Casper Halloween outthere that used to run.
There's this one that only Ikind of know about people
probably know about it but whenI had my husband watch it he was
like completely upset that Iwasted 22 minutes of his time
(23:35):
watching this 22 minutes of hislife I think it was 22, because
I think that's what a showusually runs if you have, what
is this?
it's called the Halloween.
That almost wasn't, and anybodyout there?
Kerry (23:46):
who knows?
Chrisy (23:46):
what that is.
I love you to death becausethis is one of them weird things
.
You gotta pull it up on youtube.
Judd hirsch from taxi oh playsdrag and you got like all these
people from like the 70sdressing up as monsters.
The one guy from laughing is init.
Marri Marriott Hartley is thewitch and it's basically.
(24:11):
The witch is basically sick ofDracula getting all the press
and she doesn't understand whyhe's like in charge of all the
monsters I'll have to watch thisand she threatens to basically
quit.
Oh, and Halloween can onlystart if she flies over the moon
on Halloween night.
Oh, and Halloween can onlystart if she flies over the moon
on Halloween night.
Oh, so now Transylvania, whichis full of a bunch of Americans,
(24:32):
which is weird, okay, but allthese American kids dressing up
for Halloween in Transylvaniaare upset because the witch is
threatening to quit and there'snot going to be a Halloween
without her.
Oh no, what are we going to do?
So now Dracula's got crunchtime.
He's going to have to figureout what to do with this dumb
bitch who's going to cancelflipping Halloween on him.
(24:53):
So he's, you know, going crazytrying to figure that out.
He basically has to meet someof her demands and it ends with
an awesome disco party at theend.
All right, this is before thedawn of 1980, people, so All
right.
Kerry (25:07):
Well, my homework tonight is going to be to find that on
YouTube.
Chrisy (25:11):
Yes, yes, my husband especially finds it very funny
when Judd Hirsch is a bat andthen he runs into the crypt door
and turns into a vampire againand makes a stupid sound.
Kerry (25:25):
Look for that people.
So as we put Halloween behindus, now we're going to get into
the real family time of the year.
Chrisy (25:34):
Yes, the start of everyone's nightmare, exactly.
Kerry (25:38):
Thanksgiving.
Yes, oh my gosh.
I don't even know where tobegin my anxiety.
Just even saying that word, myanxiety just went to like level
eight, Like my chest got tight.
Chrisy (25:52):
How many people at that day look at the bird on the
table and think that that's theluckiest?
Kerry (26:11):
That dead carcass in the middle of your table is the one
that got lucky that day.
Chrisy (26:14):
I'm never going to look at things again this day.
Kerry (26:18):
Oh my God, you caught me off guard on that one, but
that's so true.
Anybody having ham that day, Idon't know.
You know, we've never did hamin my house, no, we didn't Every
holiday, not for that.
Every major holiday was turkey.
Chrisy (26:28):
Thanksgiving.
Kerry (26:29):
Christmas, easter, always Thanks, always turkey.
Chrisy (26:33):
Wait a minute Easter.
Kerry (26:34):
Oh yeah, easter was Yep.
Oh yeah, easter was yep, eastertoo.
And now like so, now that I'm,you know, married and my husband
, he's always like he loves hamand he's like do we ever get ham
?
Oh my gosh.
So I'm only now recently, inthe past, you know, 15, 20 years
, I've started to introduce hamon these holidays because of him
, because growing up it wasturkey.
Chrisy (27:00):
Well, my husband would love that, because he actually
prefers turkey.
We only used to do turkey forthanksgiving, and then you never
saw it again.
And then, uh, we had hamgenerally for the other stuff,
and and, of course, italiandishes, uh, which we can get
into later on too.
Kerry (27:12):
But I wonder if it had to do something with the cost of
it.
Like does, is turkey cheaperthan ham?
Maybe that was why we didn't dothat well.
Well, that, and because of thesize of the family, you know,
like yeah, you had a way we had.
I mean, there literally weretimes we probably had 30 people
like the dining room table wouldextend all the way out into the
(27:34):
living room, form an l shape togo into the living room, form
an L shape to go into the livingroom, and it was just like and
then somewhere the kids tablewas shoved somewhere.
I mean we had so many people itwas.
Oh, my God, no wonder I'manxiety.
I need to go take a pill.
You have a flashback.
I know I'm having PTSD.
Chrisy (27:54):
Ours was not that big and again we could touch on this
.
But you brought up the kidstable.
Yeah, and I'm having aflashback Because I was
basically the youngest out ofeverybody there was a point
where and the kids table wasstill something that was
respected you had to be acertain age to graduate to an
(28:15):
adult table, and I was the lastone at that.
Kids- table.
Oh crazy, that's because we werethe youngest yeah, I sat there
by myself and you don't thinkyou could squeeze one more.
I'm only five, or whatever Icould squeeze in, I'm small.
They made you sit I had to saythat damn thing by myself.
Kerry (28:33):
That's horrible you know what?
Why even have another?
Considering the people at thetable, I was like you and the
turkey were probably the lucky.
This was the best table in thehouse.
Chrisy (28:42):
Assholes, thank you.
I'd rather sit here instead ofsitting with you.
So yeah, and then maybesomebody tossed me some damn
food.
Because there was no food onthe kids table.
You had to have somebody prepyour plate for you, but yeah,
you had to, and I never reallygot the experience of sitting at
the adult table with mygrandparents, because I was
still pretty young by the timelike my grandparents started
(29:04):
kicking off.
Kerry (29:18):
Right.
So yeah, by, but we stillalways had so many.
Well, that, because my sisterswere so much older that they
were already procreating, and soyou know, there was their kids,
and then you just, mom, wouldbring in the local priest.
They'd come in, you know,because what, yeah, yeah, like
if the priest didn't haveanywhere to go for Thanksgiving,
it would be not uncommon thatthe local priest and brothers
(29:39):
you know from the monasterywould come and have Thanksgiving
with us.
Or whatever strays you know,like you know people.
Strays that you know werearound town, and didn't you know
?
They would run into like oh youhave nowhere to go for
Thanksgiving, come to our house.
Oh my gosh, that was exciting.
Chrisy (29:56):
Wow, no, ours was closed session.
Oh my gosh, that was exciting.
Wow, no, ours was closedsession, even though the people
who were involved in it maybedidn't want to be there, but it
was closed.
Yeah, wow, you guys are reallynice people.
I can't believe that, priests.
Kerry (30:13):
But so much Okay, but then on the dark side of it,
there was so much trauma andabuse that happened during these
times of year and it was likethe more people that were there,
like it was like you wouldthink that things couldn't
happen because there were somany people there, but it was
like everyone again elephant inthe room.
We don't talk about things,we'll look at things, whatever.
(30:34):
So I just have a lot of anxietyabout the holidays, about being
around people, that many peoplebeing it just.
It's why today.
It's why today that I like tohave nobody around on the
holidays.
I want it to just be me and myhusband.
We often will find excuses togo on vacation during the
holidays or have a Friendsgivingholiday.
(30:55):
Like because of the anxiety, Ican't handle it, it's too much.
Chrisy (30:59):
Well, ptsd I moving, moving out of town.
I'm not that far, but I'm farenough.
Yeah, and just getting olderand things happening for a long
time.
Now my husband and I and mykids, we've pretty much just
done the major holidays together.
Friendsgiving sounds wonderful.
It's so good, but in generaloutside of me and you being able
(31:23):
to connect again friends aren'tanything I'm that interested in
.
Generally I like people verymuch, but never enough to really
partake a holiday.
Kerry (31:35):
Yeah, that seems amazing to me and I envy that and I
think it's uh, maybe, maybe weshould do that we should try it.
Chrisy (31:42):
It would be fun, we could do that, it would be fun
but I I I'm sorry for that, butI understand and I do uh envy
anybody who can do the vacationthing during holidays because
it's probably it's nice you'regonna be stressed out, doing the
holidays and staying home.
You might as well be stressedout and travel.
At least you're going somewherenice, exactly.
Kerry (32:00):
So it makes total sense.
The one time we drove toTennessee on Thanksgiving and it
purely was to get away from myfamily.
So we went to Tennessee tovisit my husband's sister and I
don't know, it was like ninehour drive or something.
It was like the worst drive.
It was the most desolate kindof oh it was like are we ever
going to get there?
(32:20):
But it was still worth itbecause once we got there, you
know his sister's normal, it wasjust like four or five of us.
You know.
There it was real nice, it wasquiet, it was exactly what I
wanted.
But the drive there was so badbut I was like I'd still rather
do that drive than be in thenormal holiday thanksgiving.
Oh yes, it's too much, I can't.
And the food I just like.
(32:41):
Everything revolves around thefood, the food Like.
Chrisy (32:44):
so much food.
I do love food and I canunderstand.
I can appreciate a holiday thatworships the food and not
anything else.
It's not you know, a baby orany of that other stuff, the
food worshipping Well.
Kerry (33:02):
But here's what I didn't like about it was my mom
insisted that the food had to beon the table, so she would like
it was.
We had to like everyone pass.
Well, when you've got 30 peoplearound the table, by the time
you pass every here's the corn,here's the mushrooms, here's the
(33:22):
turkey by the time you geteverything, it's all freaking
ice cold.
Chrisy (33:26):
You ain't eating hot food, some of them plates
probably came past you empty bythen, exactly Depending on where
you sat.
Kerry (33:31):
Exactly so we would always say, mom, can we just do
buffet style?
Yeah, you guys definitelyshould have been doing that.
Oh no, can we just do buffetstyle like that way?
Yeah, you guys definitely itwould be quicker.
Chrisy (33:41):
Oh, no, no, wow, even to this day, that's the norman
rockwell picture she was goingfor see because they wanted that
terrible goddamn picture.
That painting that guy did givesall these people this false
idea that you know and who thehell comes to the table with a
whole goddamn turkey intact.
I know why we never did.
We butchered the shit out of it.
It was cut.
It looked like Freddy Kruegertook out a whole turkey.
(34:02):
Nobody had a sharp enough knife.
Forget that electric knife shit.
What the hell was that?
That just made a bunch of noiseand it just sawed into
everything.
Kerry (34:10):
You had parts of bone in your.
Chrisy (34:12):
Yeah, I never understood how they show the people doing
that and they're like cutting itlike butter.
Oh look, oh, this works so good.
Kerry (34:19):
The remco whatever the commercial used to.
Chrisy (34:21):
Hey, you remember those great commercials, the thing
that used to clean your recordsand the electric knife?
You're right, yeah, everybodyin the mr microphone, yeah, so
yeah, we just hacked the shitout of it and just right.
I mean, some we were likecomplete chaos.
Some of shit was on the tableand some you had to go over to
cross the room and find it.
You know, somebody hadsomething on their plate.
You're like where the hell didyou get that?
And there's, oh, over there inthat corner.
(34:44):
Oh, wow.
So you'd be like doing ascavenger hunt, trying to figure
out where all the little losttidbits are.
Kerry (34:59):
There's like some really good stuff do yeah, but it and I
totally get why yeah, but Irefuse if I host any kind of
party or whatever it's buffet,buffet and I, there's no other
way.
Chrisy (35:03):
We're doing it okay, but now here's no go ahead sorry.
Kerry (35:05):
Here's the big question now.
Your family, I think, partakedin a little bit alcohol
different than my family,because you know, there's just
the differences of how we grewup.
But the only time of year thatwe had any kind of alcohol in
the house was thanksgiving,christmas and easter, and what
we had was mogan david wine.
Have you ever had mogan davidwine?
(35:26):
It's pleasing light nothing towrite home about.
They still sell it.
Oh yeah, oh yeah, still sell it.
Chrisy (35:33):
It's still on our table.
The country of origin, please?
I have no idea.
Oh, somebody needs to send us,oh, okay it's.
Kerry (35:42):
Trust me, I'm sure it's nothing expensive, but it's very
, very strong, sweet dessertwine.
I tell you what?
I'm not a wine drinker, but man, I guzzle that shit down during
the holidays.
It's the only way I get through.
Chrisy (35:54):
What's really so my family is yes, my father liked
to have a cocktail.
Kerry (35:59):
Yeah.
Chrisy (35:59):
He was a social drinker.
Kerry (36:01):
Yeah.
Chrisy (36:01):
My one sister probably would drink socially, but not so
much.
I enjoyed it very much atcertain times in my life, maybe
a lot.
Yeah, my other sister wouldalso enjoy having beverages, but
what's weird is we never reallyhad it during the holidays,
which is where we should havebeen downing it Really.
(36:22):
I think we really wanted totorture ourselves.
If you're going to have to dothis, you have to do it sober.
You've got to do it clean andsober.
Baby, nothing here.
When you leave, whatever you dois up to you.
Probably that's when all thedrinking really occurred.
You went home and you justdrank in the corner, crying.
Kerry (36:40):
You had a roadie on the way there.
Chrisy (36:42):
Yeah, but no, my family was really funny because we
really just didn't.
Kerry (36:46):
That's so funny, so I never thought man this whole
thing with this.
Chrisy (36:49):
I know If anything else is making me realize certain
things.
Yes, we should have beendrinking during.
It's the only way I get throughthe holiday these days
grandfather who we're notallowed to say he was an
alcoholic.
Kerry (37:02):
Oh, because you normalize it's.
Normalized it, right?
Chrisy (37:05):
yes, we're going to talk about that.
He was normalized.
That's normal for him, right?
Gramps drinking a big jug haveyou ever seen a big jug?
Yes, carlo rossi, is that thename of it?
Horrible, horrible wine thatcomes in a jug.
It looks like you should putpickles in there or something.
I don't know what the hell itwas.
My man loved the Carlo Rossi,you know, I think the reason why
(37:28):
they might have liked the MoganDavid.
Kerry (37:29):
now that I think about it , is probably the church wine
that might have been what theyserved at church.
How is?
Chrisy (37:35):
it.
I don't know I got to look thisup.
I'll bring you a bottle.
Kerry (37:38):
Mogan David Wait spell the last.
Chrisy (37:41):
It sounds like David, but I don't think you're saying
David.
What are you saying?
I think it is David.
Kerry (37:44):
Mogan M-O-G-A-N.
Chrisy (37:46):
Does our producer know anything about this?
Dj?
Kerry (37:48):
Nick, google this on your phone.
So, mogan, david, I'll bringyou a red.
Or did it come in white?
Did it come in rosé, I think?
But it's very dark red.
But now that I think about itit might be like church wine and
that's probably.
But what I'm saying is that wasthe only time of year that
really they drank.
Maybe my dad might have had arolling rock or something.
(38:09):
Really they didn't drink.
Even the kids at the table wereallowed to have it, but we had
to put a little spray in it, solike oh, that's not a good mix.
Chrisy (38:18):
I would have opted for the seagrams, if you're gonna
make me put seven up or spray inthis.
Can we change it up from mogandavid to uh somebody got some
seagram seven in there, oh god,so wow oh, that's a lot.
Kerry (38:31):
That's a lot, but yeah, so that's the holidays that
we're getting into now everybody.
Chrisy (38:36):
That is all of that.
That is the best.
Kerry (38:40):
So I'm sure, like in an upcoming episode, we'll recap
our Thanksgiving and then we'lllead into Christmas.
Chrisy (38:48):
Yes, the big Christmas episode Everybody has probably
been decorated for Christmas formonths already, exactly.
Kerry (38:57):
Well, I want to tell you thank you so much for joining us
today.
All of you listeners out there,this is what we do.
This is our therapy.
Now, we are not licensedtherapists, but this is how we
have gotten over some of ourchildhood trauma.
We laugh about it, we talkabout it, enlighten ourselves
about it.
Chrisy (39:13):
We share it out there with all of you so that you can
remember all the trauma you had.
I mean, we don't want you to gowithout remembering that you
also had this trauma If you weresitting there driving in your
car thinking, wow, wait a minute, this happened to me too.
Oh my.
God.
Kerry (39:30):
And and if you didn't have this happen to you?
Oh God, you're so lucky.
Chrisy (39:34):
Aren't they though.
Kerry (39:35):
Yeah, I mean, come on, I'm sure they have some other
dysfunction, because we all do,we're all messed up, we're all
broken and we love to hear aboutthose dysfunctions.
Chrisy (39:43):
How were your family dysfunctions fun?
Let us know.
We love to hear and we want tobe able to see if we have
anything in common with whatyou've experienced Exactly.
Kerry (39:53):
So I think we'll put some polls up on our Facebook page.
Maybe we'll talk about whatkind of Halloween decorations
that you had, and maybe we'll doa poll on did you have turkey
or did you have ham?
Or maybe you really spiced itup and did something totally
different and had Chinese food,I don't know.
Cajun Cajun.
Chrisy (40:09):
There you go.
Kerry (40:10):
So, but in the meantime, yeah, check out our Facebook.
Chrisy (40:12):
I'm sure that I'm going to get some hatred over them.
Balloons, I mean whateverthey're called.
I'm sorry people.
You love them, you got them youare allowed to have them.
Again you do you, you do you.
I'm going to drive by thoughI'm probably going to think
somebody shot them when they'redeflated in the morning.
Kerry (40:30):
All right, everyone.
Thank you for joining us.
Check us out on our Facebookpage Also.
Wherever you're streaming ourpodcast from, please give us a
five-star review so we can keepcoming at you and we'll see you
next week.
Bye-bye.
Chrisy (40:43):
Bye-bye.
Welcome to the Dysfunction Junkies podcast,
where we may not have seen itall, but we've seen enough.
And now here are your hosts,Chrisy and Kerry.
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Chrisy (00:21):
Junkies, I'm Kerry and I'm Chrissy, and we have a
special treat for you today,Kerry, go.
Kerry (00:30):
Yes, we do have something exciting to talk about.
Well, we have heard so muchfeedback about some of our best
episodes, and especially when weaired our uncut version a few
weeks ago of our Ash Wednesdayepisode, so we thought we would
start a flashback Fridays.
What we're going to do is, oncea month, we will feature a
(00:52):
throwback episode, and at timesthese episodes you know they
might have extra content that wedidn't put on the original
version, or maybe Chrissy and Iwill give you some insights from
the show afterwards.
Anyways, we are really excitedabout this.
So for our first ThrowbackFriday, it's only appropriate
(01:12):
that we start with our numberone downloaded episode from the
very beginning.
The most dysfunctional time ofyear the holidays.
So sit back, relax and enjoy.
Chrisy (01:25):
Enjoy everybody.
Kerry (01:26):
Hi everybody, welcome Dysfunction Junkies and welcome
to your safe space.
I'm Keri and I'm Chrissy, sotoday we are going to talk about
, in light of the recent past,halloween and upcoming
Thanksgiving holidays.
We're going to talk about thecreme de la creme of family
(01:46):
dysfunction the best time of theyear the holidays.
Chrisy (01:50):
The lovely holiday season is upon us, that's right.
Kerry (01:53):
So, Christy, where should we even start?
Chrisy (01:55):
Oh, we're going to start with my favorite one, which is
Halloween.
It should be the only holidayout there.
It's perfect.
Kerry (02:02):
Not a fan, just not a fan .
Why do you like Halloween somuch?
Chrisy (02:08):
Well, probably first of all didn't really understand why
you would like it the most outof the holidays, and I say that
because it's great while it'shappening but I am a lover of.
Christmas and Thanksgiving.
I do like holidays, even thoughmost of them have been
disasters for me in the past anda lot of people.
But because you don't reallyhave any pressure of family for
(02:28):
Halloween.
Kerry (02:29):
That is a great point.
I never thought about that.
Maybe I need to reconsider mythoughts on Halloween, probably.
Chrisy (02:36):
And maybe some people didn't get into Halloween, like
maybe family and stuff doesn'treally promote Halloween because
it is not one of those holidaysyou could really muck up with
family traditions.
Yeah, I mean, this is true,it's a tough one.
Kerry (02:51):
It is.
Yeah, we did not celebrateHalloween in my house.
I think part of it was becausewe lived out in the country and
you know, like I've mentionedbefore, there was two cemeteries
and then there was like twoolder people there wasn't really
kids, so there was like liketwo older people, there wasn't
really kids, so there wasnothing to enjoy, there was no
neighborhood community, therewas no trick or treating.
So, you know, we just didn'tcelebrate it.
Chrisy (03:11):
I don't know you said you're by the two cemeteries.
I think you're actually was in.
That was an ideal spot forparty time for me, but that's
could have been.
Kerry (03:19):
That could have been, but you know, it was like that was
Halloween all year round, thoughfor us, because you lived on
the house or the street with twocemeteries staring at the
cemetery.
Right, exactly, and we kind ofgrew up with a ghost in the
house, so you know the wholelike who goes scary?
Well, that was calm.
That was every day for me, soevery day was Halloween, I guess
.
Chrisy (03:39):
Yeah, you're definitely.
That is going to be definitelyyour story to tell.
I will sit here and be a goodlistener.
Kerry (03:47):
Maybe another episode will save that one.
Chrisy (03:49):
Yes, Some people will be rolling their eyes at that
because I have had someexperiences myself.
But we have some disbelieversin the room and since there's
only one other person.
They know who they are.
Kerry (04:00):
Yes, DJ Nick, total disbeliever.
So did your family decorate forHalloween?
Yes, dj Nick.
Yeah, total disbeliever.
Chrisy (04:07):
So did your family decorate for Halloween?
Yes, back a long time ago, whenI was real little, we had those
traditional Halloweendecorations, those 1970s, 1960s,
70s, the ones you just tape upon your windows the cats, the
crazy they're so retro, they'regreat yes.
In fact, I think you can stillbuy them.
(04:27):
I think I've tried to scorethem in the past and I probably
need to get some new ones,because they just really scream
my childhood.
Kerry (04:34):
Yeah, we didn't decorate hardly at all.
If we did any kind ofdecorating, it was the fall
decorating.
So you might have seen apumpkin on our porch, you might
have seen a corn stalk, you knowthat kind of fall thing that
somewhat carries over withHalloween, but nothing in the
fact of like, no ghost in theyard or no spider webs anywhere
(04:54):
or no stickums on the windows,none of that.
Chrisy (04:58):
No, well, some people get really, really out there.
I, as an adult, I got morecrazy.
Kerry (05:03):
Okay.
Chrisy (05:04):
Now we just pretty much stuck with those things.
On the windows Right A pumpkinwas carved.
That's pretty much it.
Now I was a little bit older,sort of going to junior high.
My dad would decorate a littlebit more.
He happened to take back whenwe used to get those great happy
meals.
Kerry (05:18):
Oh yeah, with the pumpkin and the ghost and all that.
Chrisy (05:22):
My father created.
He basically destroyed thesesome of them, which is kind of a
bummer now, but stuck a hole inthem, created these things,
turned them into lights bystringing lights through them
and he used to put on our frontbay window where I lived.
It looked like a pumpkin face.
Oh my gosh, it was actuallypretty cool because the two
Happy Meal things were the eyesoh my gosh.
(05:44):
And then he had a string oflike pumpkin lights that were
the mouth.
So it looked very cool, right,but it's kind of heartbreaking
now to think that he put a holein those Happy Meal buckets and
basically useless.
I did salvage some that are nottampered with.
Kerry (06:01):
But that also means you got to eat a lot of McDonald's
and Happy Meals.
Chrisy (06:04):
Oh boy, did I, oh yeah not tampered with, but but that
also means you got to eat a lotof mcdonald's and happy meals.
Kerry (06:08):
Boy did I.
Oh yeah, see, that was it.
And it showed.
A lot times too.
That was a privilege in ourhouse.
That was like a it's yourbirthday, you get to decide
where you want to go out to eat,and that was it was usually
mcdonald's was the price range.
So like mcdonald's was like aonce a year thing for us.
Chrisy (06:21):
Oh my god I know, I can know, I can't even know.
It's just like I only got theorange and the white pumpkins.
I need the other color.
I mean how many I got to keepgoing yeah there was no control
over that in my house, oh my God, so did you get my father's
order wrong, because then youhad to do.
That's a whole other episodewhen you got dad's fast food
(06:43):
order wrong.
Kerry (06:46):
Oh no, stay tuned for that.
There you go.
So did you go trick-or-treating?
Absolutely?
Oh my gosh.
Yes, I did not gotrick-or-treating until I was
probably in seventh grade.
Oh my god, I know well.
No, come on, I'm not kiddingyou, I'm serious.
Again, what am I gonna do?
Go to the graveyard, knock,knock, knock, trick-or-treat to
the grave come on well, thesedays people, they take their
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kids to.
Chrisy (07:07):
You know, we saw this a lot later on growing up because
some neighborhoods weren't safe,yes, or at least the families
didn't think they felt safethere.
So a lot of times you wouldhave truck them to the good
neighborhoods.
Kerry (07:20):
They would With the better candy.
Chrisy (07:22):
And when I was younger I would get hostile about this,
Like who the heck is this?
You know, I don't know whothese people are.
But you get older and then youhave kids of your own and you
realize you know you really justwant your kids to have a good
experience, yeah, and you wantthem to be safe, Right.
Kerry (07:37):
Well, that is why I didn't go trick or treating
until seventh or eighth gradeBecause, again, didn't have a
neighborhood, didn't have aneighborhood, didn't celebrate
halloween.
But when I was in, you know,seventh and eighth grade, I had
a friend who lived in a realneighborhood and so I got to go
over her house and gotrick-or-treating with her and
spend the night at her house.
So I was one of those kids whoinfiltrated your neighborhood
because we didn't have aneighbor but you were
(07:59):
grandfathered and you came witha oh, I was grandfathered
because you were resident.
Chrisy (08:02):
you were with a resident .
You were with.
I was grandfathered in Well,because you were with a resident
.
You were with somebody.
Yeah, I mean that's allowed.
I had a pass.
You had a pass, yes.
Kerry (08:11):
So oh yeah, there's a whole thing.
Chrisy (08:13):
We live in a neighborhood that has a specific
Halloween time, which isestablished, sort of, by the
families here and then is givenout to the families through our
HOA and we're pretty metric, andthen is given out to the
families through our HOA Uh-huh,and we're pretty metriced here.
Yeah, that, and this is adifferent animal where I live
now compared to where I was.
That it's just for neighborhood.
Oh, our neighborhood, kids andgrandchildren.
Kerry (08:37):
Do they shut the street down and have someone call
monitoring the streets?
Chrisy (08:40):
No, oh, okay, but if you give out that information about
when our trick-or-treat times,are you can be tried and, I bet,
hung Burned at the stake.
Yes, so don't you dare give outthat top secret information,
because now, where I grew up,and where you grew up too, you
had established trick-or-treattimes depending on what side of
(09:02):
town you were on, and you knowlike you were outside of the
city of Youngstown, so youprobably maybe would have had a
different time.
Kerry (09:10):
Yeah, we probably did.
Chrisy (09:11):
Youngstown had its own time and what's funny is you can
sort of you know whatneighborhoods if you look back
at that now are safe and whichones aren't by what time?
Yeah, because I think in thecity of Youngstown now you have
have to trick or treat on Sundaybetween 10, 30 am and right
after lunch, and then you haveto.
You're done, yeah, and thenyou'd like look at somewhere
like where you were in.
Kerry (09:32):
Austintown or Boardman 7 pm at night.
Chrisy (09:34):
Oh, Camfield, I bet.
You can trick or treat thereall day until midnight.
Exactly those lucky people overthere you're like, yeah,
someone's getting all the candy.
What was your favoritehalloween costume?
I think I dressed up as like avampire.
Quite a few times I am a bigfan of and our generation knows
this, although you didn'tparticipate as much, so maybe
(09:55):
you don't they were called.
They're the costumes you wouldhave got at woolworth or the
drug stores.
Yeah, I actually know the nameof these things because, of the
guy who sort of is the artistbehind the whole idea of it, ben
Cooper.
Okay, costumes, which werethose hideous hard masks with a
teeny tiny hole for your mouthand the little pinholes for your
eyes, and then, basically, itwas a garbage, an elaborate
(10:19):
garbage bag, yes, with a designon it.
Kerry (10:22):
Ben Cooper, yes, and I have a.
Chrisy (10:23):
T-shirt which I should have worn, but it has the Ben
Cooper faces on it.
I'll have to wear it.
Maybe we'll post it, so peoplecan see.
Kerry (10:30):
That would be great.
Chrisy (10:30):
It has the most famous Ben Cooper mask Nowadays.
You look at this and you'd haveto say this is beautiful
artwork.
If you're a fan of that kind ofpulp kind of type thing, it's
really a unique type of thingand they're kind of cool to
collect.
They came in these perfectlittle boxes yes where the mask
was right, in the little windowyeah, they're scary oh my god,
they're so exciting when you go,and they had them all lined up
(10:51):
in the store hills.
Yeah, woolworth, what's so funnyis they have a commercial that
floats around on youtubeadvertising for those costumes
at halloween time and gettingall your candy at woolworth's.
And then they hold up this LP,a record album.
They said this is like $1.79with your purchase.
I still have that album.
Kerry (11:10):
You do not.
Chrisy (11:10):
Yes, it's a spooky Halloween album and again, the
artwork on these albums isfantastic.
Kerry (11:16):
Oh, my gosh, if you like that kind of stuff, but when you
did finally, trick-or-treat.
Do you remember what you dressedup as the very first one?
I remember is the very firsttime I went to my friend's house
.
I was going to be a pirateBecause I had no concept of what
this trick-or-treating and whatphysical labor involved.
(11:38):
I thought it would be great tohave a peg leg, and so I I got
my jeans on and I had my leglike folded, like you know, bent
so in my jeans so that it endedat the knee.
And then my dad cut off like apiece of wood or whatever, and
we tied it to the bottom.
So I was literally hoppingaround on one leg because I was
a peg leg.
And so I get to my friend'shouse, all excited like ha ha ha
(12:01):
, look at this great costume.
And the mom and dad my friend'smom and dad looked at me in
total horror, like how are yougoing to trick or treat?
And I'm like, well, I hoppedhere, like you know, from the
car.
I'm like it was no problem, Icould do it.
And they literally went and gotcrutches for me.
They're like, yeah, you're notgonna make it.
Oh, my gosh, that's how naive Iwas.
Yeah, let's just say I think bythree houses.
(12:22):
I went back and, like I took, Ipulled my leg out of the jean
and we had to, like, start allover.
Chrisy (12:26):
So yeah, I'm guessing they were looking at you and
thought now she's become aliability, because how am I
supposed to run from?
The whole idea of Halloween isjust getting from house to house
quickly to get more and more ofthat junk in your bag.
Kerry (12:40):
I just never forget the look on the parents face.
They were just like oh my God.
Chrisy (12:47):
Well, hey, that's amazing, but your heart was in
it.
Kerry (12:50):
Yeah, it was, yeah, it was.
So how do you think thatHalloween is dysfunctional going
with our theme of our podcasthere?
Chrisy (12:57):
Well, I think I'm sure there was always some level of
dysfunction with it, but now thewhole idea of having to think
about it yeah, so early.
Kerry (13:06):
Yeah.
Chrisy (13:07):
It blows my mind and people are trying to.
You know, look, when I waslittle, getting excited about
something you knew was going tobe coming up was fun.
Yeah, but I'm talking, you knowlittle.
Kerry (13:18):
Yeah.
Chrisy (13:18):
You know you're a kid.
Kerry (13:20):
Right and.
Chrisy (13:21):
I think it's so desensitizing when you go to a
store in July or August even,and you see pumpkins and I know
they really push all this onsocial media and how fun it is
and people make these fun videosabout how soon as independence
day is over, yeah, I'm gettingmy pumpkins out, you know, and I
feel like it sort of just takesaway from that, I know, because
(13:44):
it's such a long buildup.
Kerry (13:46):
Yeah, but for what?
To me there's.
Chrisy (13:49):
I mean I like the buildup to Christmas, but for
Halloween Well there are a lotof movies to get in in that time
period.
Kerry (13:57):
Yes, there are movies.
Chrisy (13:58):
And if you like movies Halloween-themed type stuff you
need to start watching them,unless you just don't have a
life at all and that's all youhave to do.
Yeah, we could talk about scarymovies.
Kerry (14:08):
Yes, we've talked a little bit about this.
You introduced me to my veryfirst scary movie.
Chrisy (14:13):
How?
I don't remember I know, youremember.
I know, but for some reason Imust have just did my damage and
moved on.
Kerry (14:21):
Yeah, you damaged me, that's for sure.
So I was always terrified of,you know, like scary things.
You know, I just didn't like.
I didn't like scary movies.
But I remember, like oursophomore year no, it was
probably our junior year,because we met in sophomore year
, so halloween was probablyalready passed it was probably
our junior year that you got meto watch children of the corn
(14:44):
and I think I watched most ofthe movie.
Looking between my fingers, I'mjust terrified, terrified.
I don't even know if I gotthrough the whole movie.
Chrisy (14:55):
So well, I'm surprised I started with that one, because
generally my go-to fortraumatizing and I have a friend
who I grew up with in myneighborhood.
If she's listening she knowsI'm talking about her right now.
It was the Exorcist.
That was always my intro to letme see if I can get it.
So you can't sleep for a whileand sit here and giggle at you
(15:15):
while you squirm watching thisstuff.
Kerry (15:17):
Yeah, and see, I think the reason why I finally got you
not to watch that one with ormake me watch that one, it was
just a little bit too close tohome because we had a ghost in
our house and being verycatholic like that was just like
taboo I don't think.
Chrisy (15:32):
I just didn't know.
If you're catholic, that'staboo.
It's got a priest in it.
It's got two priests in it.
I don't know it's perfect forthe catholics.
Everybody run out from thecatholic church and go, if you
haven't seen it.
Kerry (15:45):
Shame on you, I don't know.
In fact, honestly, I can't ever.
I can't say that I've watchedthat movie and it's entirely.
Even to this day.
Chrisy (15:52):
I've seen pieces of it you know what I was really upset
about?
I don't know who cleaned up thefloor after the little girl
peed on it.
It wasn't like the fact thatshe was like completely
possessed by the devil.
I'm like man.
This woman was having a partyand this little girl came down
to ruin the whole thing becauseshe urinated all over the carpet
.
Kerry (16:14):
Somebody's gonna clean that up, right somebody's gotta
clean it up, yeah, and get backto the party and get her back in
her room.
Chrisy (16:20):
She's obviously a real downer for this event oh my gosh
, that's so funny.
Kerry (16:25):
Yeah, yeah.
So I'm just not a halloween fan.
The more we talk about, themore I'm like yep, nope, can't
do it.
Chrisy (16:32):
And the decorations.
Kerry (16:33):
I just have to get back to that, because the decorations
they just like.
Right now people are justfeeling like you know we're
seeing the yards.
You know people are starting totake things down because
Halloween's passed, but stillsome of them keep them up all
year round.
But then you got thoseinflatables.
Chrisy (16:50):
Oh boy, here we go.
Oh God, Inflatables,Inflatables.
Yeah, I never understoodinflatables.
They weren't always around.
No, that was a new thing Backin the.
I don't remember them being athing when I was real little,
which would have been in the 70sor when I was young, into the
80s.
Kerry (17:07):
I feel like they came around in the early 90s.
Must have been in the 90ssomewhere and look, it's a great
concept.
Chrisy (17:12):
And you get a way better representation of things with
these lovely wannabe Macy's Dayparade inflatables.
But you put them in your yard.
I didn't understand the conceptof them when they first came
out and I would see them andthey started popping up
literally.
Them when they first came out,and I would see them and they
started popping up literally andI would drive past and I would
(17:34):
be like, oh my God, there's likethis big Halloween balloon of
some sort in their yard and Iwould drive by and be like, okay
, you know, it's lit up, it'snight, it looks nice.
And then the next morning I goout and I see the remnants of it
laying on the ground,completely deflated.
And maybe this is a Youngstownthing.
But I thought right away thefirst thing that came to mind
was somebody drove by and shotthese damn things down.
Oh my gosh, I said, why arethey not pumped?
(17:55):
Somebody shot them.
I guess that'll tell you Don'tput balloons in your yard,
Someone's going to come by andjust peg them out with a gun.
So then I would drive by thenext night, you know, and the
damn thing's up and smiling likean ass and waving at you and
I'd be like, holy shit, theypumped it back up.
They must have gotten a nicelittle patch on that damn thing,
(18:16):
chrissy, you did not.
I didn't realize that you haddeflated them.
I thought they just stayedpumped up until you took the
shitty things down.
So then the next morning I'ddrive by and they're down again.
I'm like, god damn it, somebody.
Really, they're dedicated.
They don't want that shit inyour yard.
Quit blowing that shit back up.
Somebody keeps shooting.
(18:37):
You better watch, because it'snot going to just be that that's
going to get shot.
You're going to be walkingaround.
Someone's going to nail youwith a flipping bullet too.
Stop blowing these stupidthings up.
Oh my.
Kerry (18:47):
God, I had no idea, chrissy.
How long did it take you beforeyou realized that?
Chrisy (18:51):
Probably about five or six times dropping by.
Kerry (18:55):
Oh my God, you're too much.
But the sad thing is, I cantotally understand why you
thought that, given the generalvicinity of where we live and
things that happen here.
Chrisy (19:06):
Well yeah, as soon as you see something laying in a
yard that doesn't look well, youfigured something got shot.
Something got shot.
You think somebody noticed that, I don't know.
Kerry (19:16):
Oh my gosh, yeah, I'm definitely not a fan of the
inflatables.
Like I think when it firststarted and they had like one,
it was like oh, that's kind ofcool.
But now, like like, evengetting into the christmas
holidays, you know where people,you know they had all the
decorations, you know.
And then, but now you'll godrive by a house that has like
I'm not kidding you, there's twohouses that, I swear to god,
(19:36):
have 50 or 60 of theseinflatables, one after another,
and I'm like, okay, now thatthat's just, that's just lazy.
You know, if you're, if you'regonna, if you're gonna go out,
do you Chevy Chase NationalLampoon's decorating?
Chrisy (19:50):
I agree, I agree.
Kerry (19:52):
I'm sure we'll talk about Christmas more closer to the
season, but the inflatables atHalloween or those really big
15-foot tall skeletons, Really.
Chrisy (20:02):
And then they leave them up all year round.
Kerry (20:04):
Well, no, no, no, and they put a Santa Claus hat on
the skeleton.
Chrisy (20:07):
Really Well.
They're very devoted to theirspecific holiday.
I guess, that's their holiday,soul, you know.
There's Halloween and they'regoing to go with it.
I don't understand buying ablack Christmas tree and putting
orange lights on it andsticking the night before.
Whatever that Tim Burton movieis, which I know I'm a movie
person, but I didn't actuallysit through Twins the Night
before Christmas.
(20:28):
I'm sorry, I like the otherstuff.
I just haven't sat through thatyet.
Kerry (20:32):
I guess I should say, though, too, is you know, this
is just our personal experiences.
These are our thoughts, theseare our feelings.
And for those of you that youknow are avid Halloween
decorators, and everything, andyou love your little Halloween
inflatables Wonderful.
Chrisy (20:45):
Halloween inflatables Wonderful.
There's an industry for thatRight.
Keeping people.
I don't know exactly what typeof people you're keeping in
business, but you're keepingpeople working and I am an
advocate of you.
Kerry (20:54):
do you?
Yes, yes, absolutely.
So hey, you do you.
You keep going.
I'm just saying for me I don'tget it, but I respect the
dedication that people have tome.
Chrisy (21:05):
And they are dedicated.
And probably the only way youcan scare me is if you sneak to
where I live and you put up aninflatable in my yard and I wake
up and there's this crazyballoon staring oh my god that
would be terrifying to me.
Nothing else, not the exorcist,except maybe the little girl
peeing on the floor.
So, and halloween?
When you think about it, it islike a totally dysfunctional
(21:27):
idea.
Though, though.
Yeah, first of all, it's basedon dead Right Death.
You know they say oh, it'sabout people, that one night of
the year that the dead peoplecan come back Right.
Whoever started that rumor?
Not exactly sure about that.
Somebody obviously wantedpeople to stay home.
Kerry (21:41):
And then they love their family so much they actually
wanted them to come back.
I don't know that kind of love.
I don't know.
Chrisy (21:49):
That would be interesting.
You get to do stuff withsomething else.
Kerry (21:53):
Yeah.
Chrisy (21:53):
So you get to pretend, which is okay, wonderful, and
you go and you beg for stuff atpeople's houses and sometimes
you say horrible things aboutsmelling feet and stuff.
Kerry (22:02):
I never understood that Trick or treat Smell my feet,
give me something good to eat.
Chrisy (22:05):
Yeah, I treat.
Smell my feet.
Give me something good to eat.
Yeah, I'm not exactly sure youwant to do that.
These days, you might getsomething you're not bargaining,
this is true.
Careful kids, yes no I'm a bigfan of halloween.
I do love halloween.
I like halloween decorating.
I like the halloween not somuch.
As I've gotten older, I'm notinto the scary movies.
I've not seen all these newfinagle oh yeah saw, never saw,
I never saw, a saw never saw asaw, never saw a saw, never saw
(22:28):
it.
Just because as you get older,at least for me, it's just a
little too.
Life becomes scary in itself.
Kerry (22:36):
Yep, that is a really good point, and I don't need
something to try and scare me.
Chrisy (22:39):
I'm terrified.
I can do it on my own.
Kerry (22:41):
Yes, I get scared going through the car wash, I mean,
and that'll be a whole notherepisode.
But yeah, I don't need to putvisuals in my head on watching a
movie.
No, no.
Chrisy (22:52):
But my favorite thing though, if you really I think
people are ageing, and if you'reyounger and you enjoy this too,
the cartoon Halloween stuff.
I love the pumpkin thatcouldn't smile with Raggedy Ann
and Andy.
Kerry (23:04):
I love it.
Chrisy (23:05):
It's hilarious.
My husband, who I don't thinkwatched any of these things too
much growing up, I mean ofcourse he saw the Great Pumpkin
with.
Kerry (23:12):
Charlie Brown, the typical stuff, the.
Chrisy (23:14):
Garfield Halloween special was big once we were
kind of in junior high, butstill that's a classic.
There's a Casper Halloween outthere that used to run.
There's this one that only Ikind of know about people
probably know about it but whenI had my husband watch it he was
like completely upset that Iwasted 22 minutes of his time
(23:35):
watching this 22 minutes of hislife I think it was 22, because
I think that's what a showusually runs if you have, what
is this?
it's called the Halloween.
That almost wasn't, and anybodyout there?
Kerry (23:46):
who knows?
Chrisy (23:46):
what that is.
I love you to death becausethis is one of them weird things
.
You gotta pull it up on youtube.
Judd hirsch from taxi oh playsdrag and you got like all these
people from like the 70sdressing up as monsters.
The one guy from laughing is init.
Marri Marriott Hartley is thewitch and it's basically.
(24:11):
The witch is basically sick ofDracula getting all the press
and she doesn't understand whyhe's like in charge of all the
monsters I'll have to watch thisand she threatens to basically
quit.
Oh, and Halloween can onlystart if she flies over the moon
on Halloween night.
Oh, and Halloween can onlystart if she flies over the moon
on Halloween night.
Oh, so now Transylvania, whichis full of a bunch of Americans,
(24:32):
which is weird, okay, but allthese American kids dressing up
for Halloween in Transylvaniaare upset because the witch is
threatening to quit and there'snot going to be a Halloween
without her.
Oh no, what are we going to do?
So now Dracula's got crunchtime.
He's going to have to figureout what to do with this dumb
bitch who's going to cancelflipping Halloween on him.
(24:53):
So he's, you know, going crazytrying to figure that out.
He basically has to meet someof her demands and it ends with
an awesome disco party at theend.
All right, this is before thedawn of 1980, people, so All
right.
Kerry (25:07):
Well, my homework tonight is going to be to find that on
YouTube.
Chrisy (25:11):
Yes, yes, my husband especially finds it very funny
when Judd Hirsch is a bat andthen he runs into the crypt door
and turns into a vampire againand makes a stupid sound.
Kerry (25:25):
Look for that people.
So as we put Halloween behindus, now we're going to get into
the real family time of the year.
Chrisy (25:34):
Yes, the start of everyone's nightmare, exactly.
Kerry (25:38):
Thanksgiving.
Yes, oh my gosh.
I don't even know where tobegin my anxiety.
Just even saying that word, myanxiety just went to like level
eight, Like my chest got tight.
Chrisy (25:52):
How many people at that day look at the bird on the
table and think that that's theluckiest?
Kerry (26:11):
That dead carcass in the middle of your table is the one
that got lucky that day.
Chrisy (26:14):
I'm never going to look at things again this day.
Kerry (26:18):
Oh my God, you caught me off guard on that one, but
that's so true.
Anybody having ham that day, Idon't know.
You know, we've never did hamin my house, no, we didn't Every
holiday, not for that.
Every major holiday was turkey.
Chrisy (26:28):
Thanksgiving.
Kerry (26:29):
Christmas, easter, always Thanks, always turkey.
Chrisy (26:33):
Wait a minute Easter.
Kerry (26:34):
Oh yeah, easter was Yep.
Oh yeah, easter was yep, eastertoo.
And now like so, now that I'm,you know, married and my husband
, he's always like he loves hamand he's like do we ever get ham
?
Oh my gosh.
So I'm only now recently, inthe past, you know, 15, 20 years
, I've started to introduce hamon these holidays because of him
, because growing up it wasturkey.
Chrisy (27:00):
Well, my husband would love that, because he actually
prefers turkey.
We only used to do turkey forthanksgiving, and then you never
saw it again.
And then, uh, we had hamgenerally for the other stuff,
and and, of course, italiandishes, uh, which we can get
into later on too.
Kerry (27:12):
But I wonder if it had to do something with the cost of
it.
Like does, is turkey cheaperthan ham?
Maybe that was why we didn't dothat well.
Well, that, and because of thesize of the family, you know,
like yeah, you had a way we had.
I mean, there literally weretimes we probably had 30 people
like the dining room table wouldextend all the way out into the
(27:34):
living room, form an l shape togo into the living room, form
an L shape to go into the livingroom, and it was just like and
then somewhere the kids tablewas shoved somewhere.
I mean we had so many people itwas.
Oh, my God, no wonder I'manxiety.
I need to go take a pill.
You have a flashback.
I know I'm having PTSD.
Chrisy (27:54):
Ours was not that big and again we could touch on this
.
But you brought up the kidstable.
Yeah, and I'm having aflashback Because I was
basically the youngest out ofeverybody there was a point
where and the kids table wasstill something that was
respected you had to be acertain age to graduate to an
(28:15):
adult table, and I was the lastone at that.
Kids- table.
Oh crazy, that's because we werethe youngest yeah, I sat there
by myself and you don't thinkyou could squeeze one more.
I'm only five, or whatever Icould squeeze in, I'm small.
They made you sit I had to saythat damn thing by myself.
Kerry (28:33):
That's horrible you know what?
Why even have another?
Considering the people at thetable, I was like you and the
turkey were probably the lucky.
This was the best table in thehouse.
Chrisy (28:42):
Assholes, thank you.
I'd rather sit here instead ofsitting with you.
So yeah, and then maybesomebody tossed me some damn
food.
Because there was no food onthe kids table.
You had to have somebody prepyour plate for you, but yeah,
you had to, and I never reallygot the experience of sitting at
the adult table with mygrandparents, because I was
still pretty young by the timelike my grandparents started
(29:04):
kicking off.
Kerry (29:18):
Right.
So yeah, by, but we stillalways had so many.
Well, that, because my sisterswere so much older that they
were already procreating, and soyou know, there was their kids,
and then you just, mom, wouldbring in the local priest.
They'd come in, you know,because what, yeah, yeah, like
if the priest didn't haveanywhere to go for Thanksgiving,
it would be not uncommon thatthe local priest and brothers
(29:39):
you know from the monasterywould come and have Thanksgiving
with us.
Or whatever strays you know,like you know people.
Strays that you know werearound town, and didn't you know
?
They would run into like oh youhave nowhere to go for
Thanksgiving, come to our house.
Oh my gosh, that was exciting.
Chrisy (29:56):
Wow, no, ours was closed session.
Oh my gosh, that was exciting.
Wow, no, ours was closedsession, even though the people
who were involved in it maybedidn't want to be there, but it
was closed.
Yeah, wow, you guys are reallynice people.
I can't believe that, priests.
Kerry (30:13):
But so much Okay, but then on the dark side of it,
there was so much trauma andabuse that happened during these
times of year and it was likethe more people that were there,
like it was like you wouldthink that things couldn't
happen because there were somany people there, but it was
like everyone again elephant inthe room.
We don't talk about things,we'll look at things, whatever.
(30:34):
So I just have a lot of anxietyabout the holidays, about being
around people, that many peoplebeing it just.
It's why today.
It's why today that I like tohave nobody around on the
holidays.
I want it to just be me and myhusband.
We often will find excuses togo on vacation during the
holidays or have a Friendsgivingholiday.
(30:55):
Like because of the anxiety, Ican't handle it, it's too much.
Chrisy (30:59):
Well, ptsd I moving, moving out of town.
I'm not that far, but I'm farenough.
Yeah, and just getting olderand things happening for a long
time.
Now my husband and I and mykids, we've pretty much just
done the major holidays together.
Friendsgiving sounds wonderful.
It's so good, but in generaloutside of me and you being able
(31:23):
to connect again friends aren'tanything I'm that interested in
.
Generally I like people verymuch, but never enough to really
partake a holiday.
Kerry (31:35):
Yeah, that seems amazing to me and I envy that and I
think it's uh, maybe, maybe weshould do that we should try it.
Chrisy (31:42):
It would be fun, we could do that, it would be fun
but I I I'm sorry for that, butI understand and I do uh envy
anybody who can do the vacationthing during holidays because
it's probably it's nice you'regonna be stressed out, doing the
holidays and staying home.
You might as well be stressedout and travel.
At least you're going somewherenice, exactly.
Kerry (32:00):
So it makes total sense.
The one time we drove toTennessee on Thanksgiving and it
purely was to get away from myfamily.
So we went to Tennessee tovisit my husband's sister and I
don't know, it was like ninehour drive or something.
It was like the worst drive.
It was the most desolate kindof oh it was like are we ever
going to get there?
(32:20):
But it was still worth itbecause once we got there, you
know his sister's normal, it wasjust like four or five of us.
You know.
There it was real nice, it wasquiet, it was exactly what I
wanted.
But the drive there was so badbut I was like I'd still rather
do that drive than be in thenormal holiday thanksgiving.
Oh yes, it's too much, I can't.
And the food I just like.
(32:41):
Everything revolves around thefood, the food Like.
Chrisy (32:44):
so much food.
I do love food and I canunderstand.
I can appreciate a holiday thatworships the food and not
anything else.
It's not you know, a baby orany of that other stuff, the
food worshipping Well.
Kerry (33:02):
But here's what I didn't like about it was my mom
insisted that the food had to beon the table, so she would like
it was.
We had to like everyone pass.
Well, when you've got 30 peoplearound the table, by the time
you pass every here's the corn,here's the mushrooms, here's the
(33:22):
turkey by the time you geteverything, it's all freaking
ice cold.
Chrisy (33:26):
You ain't eating hot food, some of them plates
probably came past you empty bythen, exactly Depending on where
you sat.
Kerry (33:31):
Exactly so we would always say, mom, can we just do
buffet style?
Yeah, you guys definitelyshould have been doing that.
Oh no, can we just do buffetstyle like that way?
Yeah, you guys definitely itwould be quicker.
Chrisy (33:41):
Oh, no, no, wow, even to this day, that's the norman
rockwell picture she was goingfor see because they wanted that
terrible goddamn picture.
That painting that guy did givesall these people this false
idea that you know and who thehell comes to the table with a
whole goddamn turkey intact.
I know why we never did.
We butchered the shit out of it.
It was cut.
It looked like Freddy Kruegertook out a whole turkey.
(34:02):
Nobody had a sharp enough knife.
Forget that electric knife shit.
What the hell was that?
That just made a bunch of noiseand it just sawed into
everything.
Kerry (34:10):
You had parts of bone in your.
Chrisy (34:12):
Yeah, I never understood how they show the people doing
that and they're like cutting itlike butter.
Oh look, oh, this works so good.
Kerry (34:19):
The remco whatever the commercial used to.
Chrisy (34:21):
Hey, you remember those great commercials, the thing
that used to clean your recordsand the electric knife?
You're right, yeah, everybodyin the mr microphone, yeah, so
yeah, we just hacked the shitout of it and just right.
I mean, some we were likecomplete chaos.
Some of shit was on the tableand some you had to go over to
cross the room and find it.
You know, somebody hadsomething on their plate.
You're like where the hell didyou get that?
And there's, oh, over there inthat corner.
(34:44):
Oh, wow.
So you'd be like doing ascavenger hunt, trying to figure
out where all the little losttidbits are.
Kerry (34:59):
There's like some really good stuff do yeah, but it and I
totally get why yeah, but Irefuse if I host any kind of
party or whatever it's buffet,buffet and I, there's no other
way.
Chrisy (35:03):
We're doing it okay, but now here's no go ahead sorry.
Kerry (35:05):
Here's the big question now.
Your family, I think, partakedin a little bit alcohol
different than my family,because you know, there's just
the differences of how we grewup.
But the only time of year thatwe had any kind of alcohol in
the house was thanksgiving,christmas and easter, and what
we had was mogan david wine.
Have you ever had mogan davidwine?
(35:26):
It's pleasing light nothing towrite home about.
They still sell it.
Oh yeah, oh yeah, still sell it.
Chrisy (35:33):
It's still on our table.
The country of origin, please?
I have no idea.
Oh, somebody needs to send us,oh, okay it's.
Kerry (35:42):
Trust me, I'm sure it's nothing expensive, but it's very
, very strong, sweet dessertwine.
I tell you what?
I'm not a wine drinker, but man, I guzzle that shit down during
the holidays.
It's the only way I get through.
Chrisy (35:54):
What's really so my family is yes, my father liked
to have a cocktail.
Kerry (35:59):
Yeah.
Chrisy (35:59):
He was a social drinker.
Kerry (36:01):
Yeah.
Chrisy (36:01):
My one sister probably would drink socially, but not so
much.
I enjoyed it very much atcertain times in my life, maybe
a lot.
Yeah, my other sister wouldalso enjoy having beverages, but
what's weird is we never reallyhad it during the holidays,
which is where we should havebeen downing it Really.
(36:22):
I think we really wanted totorture ourselves.
If you're going to have to dothis, you have to do it sober.
You've got to do it clean andsober.
Baby, nothing here.
When you leave, whatever you dois up to you.
Probably that's when all thedrinking really occurred.
You went home and you justdrank in the corner, crying.
Kerry (36:40):
You had a roadie on the way there.
Chrisy (36:42):
Yeah, but no, my family was really funny because we
really just didn't.
Kerry (36:46):
That's so funny, so I never thought man this whole
thing with this.
Chrisy (36:49):
I know If anything else is making me realize certain
things.
Yes, we should have beendrinking during.
It's the only way I get throughthe holiday these days
grandfather who we're notallowed to say he was an
alcoholic.
Kerry (37:02):
Oh, because you normalize it's.
Normalized it, right?
Chrisy (37:05):
yes, we're going to talk about that.
He was normalized.
That's normal for him, right?
Gramps drinking a big jug haveyou ever seen a big jug?
Yes, carlo rossi, is that thename of it?
Horrible, horrible wine thatcomes in a jug.
It looks like you should putpickles in there or something.
I don't know what the hell itwas.
My man loved the Carlo Rossi,you know, I think the reason why
(37:28):
they might have liked the MoganDavid.
Kerry (37:29):
now that I think about it , is probably the church wine
that might have been what theyserved at church.
How is?
Chrisy (37:35):
it.
I don't know I got to look thisup.
I'll bring you a bottle.
Kerry (37:38):
Mogan David Wait spell the last.
Chrisy (37:41):
It sounds like David, but I don't think you're saying
David.
What are you saying?
I think it is David.
Kerry (37:44):
Mogan M-O-G-A-N.
Chrisy (37:46):
Does our producer know anything about this?
Dj?
Kerry (37:48):
Nick, google this on your phone.
So, mogan, david, I'll bringyou a red.
Or did it come in white?
Did it come in rosé, I think?
But it's very dark red.
But now that I think about itit might be like church wine and
that's probably.
But what I'm saying is that wasthe only time of year that
really they drank.
Maybe my dad might have had arolling rock or something.
(38:09):
Really they didn't drink.
Even the kids at the table wereallowed to have it, but we had
to put a little spray in it, solike oh, that's not a good mix.
Chrisy (38:18):
I would have opted for the seagrams, if you're gonna
make me put seven up or spray inthis.
Can we change it up from mogandavid to uh somebody got some
seagram seven in there, oh god,so wow oh, that's a lot.
Kerry (38:31):
That's a lot, but yeah, so that's the holidays that
we're getting into now everybody.
Chrisy (38:36):
That is all of that.
That is the best.
Kerry (38:40):
So I'm sure, like in an upcoming episode, we'll recap
our Thanksgiving and then we'lllead into Christmas.
Chrisy (38:48):
Yes, the big Christmas episode Everybody has probably
been decorated for Christmas formonths already, exactly.
Kerry (38:57):
Well, I want to tell you thank you so much for joining us
today.
All of you listeners out there,this is what we do.
This is our therapy.
Now, we are not licensedtherapists, but this is how we
have gotten over some of ourchildhood trauma.
We laugh about it, we talkabout it, enlighten ourselves
about it.
Chrisy (39:13):
We share it out there with all of you so that you can
remember all the trauma you had.
I mean, we don't want you to gowithout remembering that you
also had this trauma If you weresitting there driving in your
car thinking, wow, wait a minute, this happened to me too.
Oh my.
God.
Kerry (39:30):
And and if you didn't have this happen to you?
Oh God, you're so lucky.
Chrisy (39:34):
Aren't they though.
Kerry (39:35):
Yeah, I mean, come on, I'm sure they have some other
dysfunction, because we all do,we're all messed up, we're all
broken and we love to hear aboutthose dysfunctions.
Chrisy (39:43):
How were your family dysfunctions fun?
Let us know.
We love to hear and we want tobe able to see if we have
anything in common with whatyou've experienced Exactly.
Kerry (39:53):
So I think we'll put some polls up on our Facebook page.
Maybe we'll talk about whatkind of Halloween decorations
that you had, and maybe we'll doa poll on did you have turkey
or did you have ham?
Or maybe you really spiced itup and did something totally
different and had Chinese food,I don't know.
Cajun Cajun.
Chrisy (40:09):
There you go.
Kerry (40:10):
So, but in the meantime, yeah, check out our Facebook.
Chrisy (40:12):
I'm sure that I'm going to get some hatred over them.
Balloons, I mean whateverthey're called.
I'm sorry people.
You love them, you got them youare allowed to have them.
Again you do you, you do you.
I'm going to drive by thoughI'm probably going to think
somebody shot them when they'redeflated in the morning.
Kerry (40:30):
All right, everyone.
Thank you for joining us.
Check us out on our Facebookpage Also.
Wherever you're streaming ourpodcast from, please give us a
five-star review so we can keepcoming at you and we'll see you
next week.
Bye-bye.
Chrisy (40:43):
Bye-bye.
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