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Remember the days of Deal-A-Meal cards, Thigh Masters, and Susan Power screaming "Stop the Insanity"? That's exactly where this week's Flashback Friday episode takes us—straight into the heart of 80s and 90s diet culture.

Hosts Chrisy and Kerry revisit their 14th episode about the wildly dysfunctional diets that shaped their relationships with food and their bodies. Whether you've personally experienced the diet culture rollercoaster or just want to understand its impact, this episode offers both nostalgic humor and profound insight into how we might build healthier relationships with food and our bodies. 

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DJ Nick (00:07):
Welcome to a Flashback Friday edition of the
Dysfunction Junkies podcast.
We may not have seen it all,but we've seen enough.
And now here are your hosts,Chrisy and Kerry.

Kerry (00:21):
Hello, junkies, I'm Keri

Chrisy (00:24):
and I'm Chrisy,

Kerry (00:25):
and welcome to Flashback Friday.
Yes, we have a.
This is a fun one.
We really enjoyed doing thisepisode.
This was our episode thattalked about I think it was
episode 14.
And we talked about all thecrazy diets that we were exposed
to.

Chrisy (00:41):
Yes, and Kerry might have been exposed to them, but I
actually participated in a lotof them.

Kerry (00:49):
Yeah, we reference this a lot.
You know, if you hear ustalking about something and
we'll say like the hot dog andice cream diet and things like
that, that was this episode.

Chrisy (00:58):
Yes.

Kerry (00:59):
So any thoughts about this before we flash back into
that episode, Chrissy.

Chrisy (01:03):
Well, I just reflecting on where, when we were growing
up yeah, I mean that was dietinghas always been around, always
will be around.
Yeah, I'm not a believer in theonly diet I feel is the way to
go is moderation.
Yeah, making healthy decisionsand not overdoing it.
Right and being physicallyactive yes, I mean that's pretty

(01:28):
much gonna get you through andkeep you healthy.

Kerry (01:32):
But we were at the age that, like you know, the richard
simmons area, with the, youknow and I don't think he had it
completely wrong, no, but itwas that was this, that was what
was out a lot, and then you hadlike the, the, the diet helpful
thing, that was like you hadyour cards and you had to like,
every time you ate, this, likedeal a meal deal a meal.

(01:54):
Yes, deal a meal I never Inever bought into that never
anything.

Chrisy (01:59):
That that takes right cards and the dieting who is it?

Kerry (02:03):
the billy banks?
I think it was the boxing guywhat was that?

Chrisy (02:08):
did I have a name, oh I have to admit I think I had
those tapes yes, and thenthere's suzanne tybo.

Kerry (02:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Then there was the suzannesummers thigh master, you know
you remember the chick with thecrazy hair?

Chrisy (02:24):
susan powder, susan powder.
She was like really like kindof really big.
No, she had like a, a buzz cutyeah oh, susan powder.

Kerry (02:35):
Yes, the boy.
Yes, I liked her, you liked herI did.

Chrisy (02:39):
She was a little bit too aggressive.
She was very aggressive, yeah,she was I like that kind of.
Thing.

Kerry (02:46):
That's the kind of trainer I like.
Well, she definitely caughtyour attention.

Chrisy (02:50):
You know one thing we didn't touch on real quick when
we were talking about all thecrazy diets I participated in
were those, and I don't evenknow to what level.
They're still in existence andI don't want to give these
people a plug.

Kerry (03:05):
But you remember those like what is it Nutrisystem?

Chrisy (03:06):
Oh yeah, where you basically have to order your
food weight to be delivered.

Kerry (03:08):
No Weight Watchers is more calorie counting, and they
had a point system for.
Weight Watchers.

Chrisy (03:11):
Although I did, I forgot to bring that up during that
episode to my mother did make mego to Weight Watchers early on.
And let me tell you what'shumiliating about that.
And I don't.
I'm sorry, that's okay.
I don't Weight Watch a sponsorand I don't.
Okay, thank you.
There is a level of humiliationwith Weight Watchers Really, I
mean with dieting in general.
But we were watching this oneTV show.

(03:32):
Well, I guess I can cite itright the Biggest Loser, no, mad
Men, because I'm a huge Mad Menfan.
I think it was a fantastic showand I show and I just loved the
subject matter.
I love the way it was made.
It's just, it's a wonderfulshow.
I loved it.
There is one season where theytake this gorgeous actress which
I find hilarious who hasn'tseen a day of fat ever, but they

(03:57):
turned her into a fatso for theshow.
They put her in a fat suit andthe storyline was that she, her
and this the main characterdivorced.
Uh, it seemed like she wasstruggling with her new life for
a little while, yeah, and shehad put on weight and she was
really trying to figure all thatout.

(04:19):
Yeah, huh.
And they had some scenes thatthey showed where she was a
member of Weight Watchers duringthe 60s.
Okay, now, I had gone duringthe 80s, but there was a scene
showing where they had thepeople at the Weight Watchers
meeting and they would beweighed in front.
You had a group weigh-in, theyhad you come up and weigh

(04:41):
yourself in?
No, and then they wouldannounce they didn't say your
weight.

Kerry (04:46):
But they would say if you lost or gained or stayed the
same, or maintained.

Chrisy (04:49):
Wow, yeah, that would have.
Do you know?
I mean, you know how much youcould dread.
I dread the scale anyhow, right, but to do that level, wow, I
mean.
And nobody ever came in andsaid so-and-so, lost 10 pounds.
This week they give you thiscrappy stuff like 0.5 ounces,

(05:12):
so-and-so, lost 0.5 ounces.

Kerry (05:15):
Are your numbers?
Did you pee before?

Chrisy (05:16):
you come.
Well, yeah, I'm like are yousure that you're calculating
that correctly?
It doesn't seem that's like astick of butter or something?

Kerry (05:22):
Did they make you like take your clothes off?
And wear your clothes.

Chrisy (05:25):
No, no, no, it's like so it could have been your shoes,
your shoes were like heavy, oryou were wearing if it was
winter, you were wearing toomany clothes, or yeah, I mean,
you know, I even drive thepeople at the doctor's clothes
and I make sure I can slide myshoes off.

Kerry (05:45):
Oh yeah, Crocs are a must .

Chrisy (05:46):
That way you can take those babies right on and off
and I'm not bringing my pursewith me, Somebody's holding that
or getting that out of my way,so but yeah, you know these
crazy things, the crazy things.
And so now what I real quicklywant to touch on is because you
don't seem to see all of thiswhich, Like we talked prior

(06:09):
about going through checkoutsand just the diets, all the
diets that were offered andso-and-so lost 70 pounds that
you saw sitting in the checkout.
I don't even remember I don't.

Kerry (06:22):
Do they even have tabloids and stuff at the
checkouts anymore, because, well, I think they do.
Ok, I usually go to self-checkand there's, there's nothing
there.

Chrisy (06:30):
As do we, but I think that yeah, but the magazine
industry in?
General has been hit prettyhard and you don't really see
that yes, anymore which I thinkis a good thing.

Kerry (06:39):
Yes, because it was just again very not good for body
image and for no, and I'm sureit definitely influenced, and
did you have to do weigh-inswhen you went to weight watchers
?
In the 80s though.
Yeah, oh, group weigh-ins, yeahyou went to Weight Watchers in
the 80s though.
Yeah oh, group weigh-ins Dang.

Chrisy (06:53):
Yeah.
So when you said because youhad asked me when we were
watching that, you said did theyreally do that?
Oh, and I said yes, I mean, theguy who made that show was not
going to deviate from history.
He was pretty he wasn't goingto.
It may have now, because it's apoint system is what they were

(07:15):
doing, I guess, or whatever, butI couldn't speak about after
that, if I would hope.
To be honest, I kind of hopethey did get away from that
because, yeah, that's bodyshaming in a way.
Well, yeah, and I mean I knowthat they were probably trying
to do it to sort of inspire,yeah, but I mean I think it was
crushing, especially if peopledidn't maintain or lose.

(07:37):
I mean that's hard, it's sohard.
And then it's just the onething hey, everybody talks about
now is sort of alleviated.
This need Semi-glutide, yeah,the azempic and there's some
other ones out there and I thinkfor what it is supposed to be
helping with people with type 2diabetes and and I think there's

(07:58):
some other health benefits theyhave found with this type of
medication.
I very, uh thankful, just as Iam, with all science that helps
promote, uh, longer, healthierlives.
But there is a part of me thatyou know I try to understand.
I don't think I could do itbecause I could never poke
myself all the time, and I don'tunderstand why this form of

(08:22):
medication requires injecting.
Why can't I take a pill?
But again, I'm not scientific,I guess, so I just do it.
Hey, you say this is the wayyou have to do it, so you got a
lot of people stabbingthemselves.
Okay, I guess, if you say don'teat or you're going to get
stabbed, that might be all theincentive.

(08:44):
I need.
So you either stop eating orI'm going to stab you or make
you stab yourself.
But yeah, I do hear a lot fromfamous people who touch on this
not the ones participating in itor using it but there's a lot
of other people, celebrities outthere, or people, personalities

(09:05):
, who talk about these type ofthings that I get a lot of like.
I feel like I hear a lot ofhostility, especially people who
are maybe our age or older, whoremember having to do all that
horrible things eat hot dogs andcold ice cream or get
humiliated at Weight Watcherswhen you stand on the scale in
front of everybody and now allyou do is just, you know,

(09:28):
quietly poke yourself, which tome it just seems dark.
Just you know, quietly pokeyourself, which to me it just
seems dark.
Like, are you doing this infront of everybody or you go
hide somewhere?
I mean it's just whatever.
Do it If your doctor says youneed this.

(09:48):
There is no joke in that andI'm not trying to crap all over
it, but it is a whole new era ofbeing thin.
It is, and I think that peoplewho are really angry about it
I'm not saying there's noscientific backing for this, but
they like to talk about likeozempic face, oh yeah yeah, yeah
and I think for a while.
They even said people who takeozempic have something with

(10:08):
their rear ends.

Kerry (10:09):
Going on, I think that's ozempic butt, yeah, or no butt.

Chrisy (10:17):
I think people are just really trying to discourage
anybody from you.
You got a ozempic face, yeahwhat?

Kerry (10:24):
oh my god.
But I think that, yeah, I've,I've seen that I don't know that
I agree because I'm like no, Ithink what it is is just that
when you lose a lot of weight,it changes your look.

Chrisy (10:35):
Yeah.

Kerry (10:37):
And most of the people that I feel like are taking this
are the older generation, whoare having troubles with losing
weight because your metabolismchanges or whatever, and so
you're just getting old, youknow?

Chrisy (10:48):
Oh, yeah, so yes, I hear your point.
So but yeah, I want everybodyagain with this episode please
listen, please enjoy and weagain stay healthy.
Yes, keep yourself active asmuch as you can physically and
but don't overdo it.
And moderation with your diet,but enjoy your food.

(11:10):
Enjoy it Just don't eat a wholecake.
I guess, I don't know.

Kerry (11:17):
All right, everyone.
So here is our flashbackepisode and it is our diet
episode, so enjoy.
Hello, dysfunction Junkiefamily.
How is everyone doing out there, chrissy?
How are you?

Chrisy (11:31):
How is everyone doing out there?
Christy, how are you?
Oh, I'm doing just fine, Iguess.
Thank you, we started a newyear and we're moving along, I
guess.

Kerry (11:40):
Yes, we are.
So we're like what a month now,basically almost into the new
year, and the weather isdisgusting here in Northeast
Ohio and I'm trying to get thismarathon training done and this
weather is not cooperating.

Chrisy (11:55):
Oh, we got.
No, you got it.

Kerry (11:57):
I'm doing the gym Like I go to the gym.
I go to.
You know I do all that stuffbut to get my outdoor running
done it's not happening.
Whenever it's negative teenwind chills and 20 degree
weather and snow and ice yeah,screw that.

Chrisy (12:10):
Do I need to like maybe be in a car in front of you and
sort of maybe try to clear theroad for you as you run behind
the car and I'll cheer for youGo.

Kerry (12:19):
Carrie, go Carrie.
I think I need like a heatblower is more of the thing.
It's not the desire.
I've got the desire to run,I've got that down.
I just can't stand this weather.
It does not help my diet and myexercise routine right now.

Chrisy (12:32):
So I can also have a music playing the Rocky theme.

Kerry (12:35):
Oh, that would be good.

Chrisy (12:37):
Yeah, all right.

Kerry (12:39):
Well, if this weather lingers much longer up here,
then we might need to, you know,take some, you know extreme
measures on that.

Chrisy (12:46):
So hopefully we'll get through it somehow.
Yes, yeah.

Kerry (12:59):
So dieting seems to be a good topic for this time of year
, a month in after all those NewYear's resolutions and
everything.
And Chrissy and I were talkingabout the dysfunctional diets
over the years.
So, chrissy, take it away.

Chrisy (13:10):
Because I am the queen of dysfunctional diets.
Unfortunately, they wereencouraged for me.
I don't know why, but they were.
Yeah, I just always wonder whywe're encouraged to make that
resolution.

Kerry (13:25):
Yeah.

Chrisy (13:25):
That we're going to get healthier in the new year.
Were you that unhealthy in theyear prior or in like many years
prior?

Kerry (13:32):
Right.

Chrisy (13:32):
Or did you just like completely go out of control in
December?

Kerry (13:36):
Exactly, and.

Chrisy (13:37):
I wonder if the push to be healthier in a new year
encourages us to be completelypart of just a debaucherous
lifestyle.

Kerry (13:47):
Yes.

Chrisy (13:47):
The month prior to the year.

Kerry (13:49):
Yeah, For the last six weeks, from November till you
know January or December 31st itis it's out of control.
I mean all the food, all thecookies, all the pastries, all
the parties, everything forthose last six weeks I have no
food control, no self-controlwhen it comes to food, whether
I'm on a diet or not, or justright.
So yeah, the last six weeks arehorrible.

(14:11):
So you're right, not, or justright.
So yeah it, the last six weeksof the horrible.
So you're, you're right.
That probably is why it leadsup to the new year resolution of
oh, I gotta, I gotta now losethe extra 10 pounds I put on,
plus that whatever I put on forthe whole year before my break.

Chrisy (14:22):
We should do a uh, where you're totally healthy, yeah,
and or totally unhealthy, likejanuary through october, and
then you just try to becompletely healthy and just like
completely trash everybody elsewho's around you trying to have
a good time like you're being,you know right, the the healthy

(14:44):
one.
But yeah, it does it.

Kerry (14:46):
It's a crazy thought to have be healthy I know I give
credit to the people that likeplan their meals and have it all
packed in the little boxes andyou know, they bring it to work
and oh, we're going to have alunch party at work, you know.
And they, oh no, I can't eatall that yummy.
I have my little pack, littlechicken breast and my whatever.
I wish I had that control, Iwish I had that desire, I wish I

(15:10):
could be that committed.
But I just look at that and gohow are you living?
How is life enjoyable whenyou're, when you're doing that?

Chrisy (15:18):
You're living out of the bento box.
Well, if you really like thattype of food, and that's
wonderful- yeah.
But you know, denying yourselfis a huge part of the problem
and you just got to try and bereasonable.
This is all taken me a verylong time to figure out and I
will explain because I have beenon so many horrible diets.

(15:41):
I was just making notes aboutwhat we were going to talk about
today and I have to tell youthat I believe that I probably
have lost enough weight andgained enough weight back to
probably have created one wholefull grown person.
I believe that Because when youwant the quick fix of the

(16:02):
weight loss, especially whenyou're younger and I think we've
become better in general withunderstanding that the quick
weight loss is not good.
I'm sure there are still peoplewho just want it, yeah, but when
you're younger you really wantit, you just in a hurry.

Kerry (16:18):
Got to get into that dress or got to do whatever.
The bathing suit season iscoming up.

Chrisy (16:24):
I have been on diets that have dropped a lot of
weight quickly.
When I was younger I could goon those diets now Ain't going
to happen.
Because I'm just at that agewhere your body's just going to
fight against that.
No, thank you, it's going tohold on to all that fat because
it's like you're not younganymore.
You better keep all this fornutrients, because you're going
to need it.

Kerry (16:43):
You're so cute if you think you can do that.
Still, your body says to youyeah, you kind of think oh,
maybe I'm still.

Chrisy (16:49):
No, no, diet required me to limit my calories to 600
calories a day for a few days,then bump it to nine.
Then for a whole week, whichwas like a splurge, you went to
12.
Wow, all of it had menu plans.

Kerry (17:05):
And you were able to follow this and stick to it.

Chrisy (17:08):
Once I got into the mindset of it, I was and when I
was younger.
I would be on that for threeweeks and I know people are
going to say this is impossible,but I literally would drop 15
pounds in three weeks.

Kerry (17:19):
Oh, I believe it.

Chrisy (17:20):
I was very hungry and I was exercising.
And then you had one week off.
So it was a three weekcommitment and then you had a
week off.

Kerry (17:27):
Did you just go crazy?

Chrisy (17:27):
for that week you go crazy, so usually I would gain
back five to seven pounds backon and then you do it again.

(17:48):
Oh my God, I did another crazy.
I was so mad.
If I saw a parsnip in a storeI'd probably freak out.
I'm sure you would.

Kerry (17:54):
But it was just, it was all just parsnips.

Chrisy (17:57):
Yeah, and I was like really hostile about that one
with my mother, because she keptmaking me eat, she kept trying
to prepare them in differentways for me.
I stuck to it and after a weekof parsnips, I lost nothing.
I lost nothing.

Kerry (18:09):
Oh, my God.
And I was so angry, so angry Ican't, I can't imagine that I
would have cheated.
I would have been like OK, mom,I'm eating your parsnips.
And then shut the bedroom doorand out come the candy, out come
the chips.
I give you credit for stickingto it.

Chrisy (18:26):
I did, but is it at a cost?
It was not because once you hadtime off or you decided you were
going to take your break, youwent so crazy you basically just
destroyed everything you did.
And then I did have anotherdiet, which was really weird.
I don't know, I can't rememberany of the other menu parts of
it, except that it told you tohave vanilla ice cream and raw

(18:48):
hot dogs, and I would take andcut up a raw hot dog and I would
stick it in the vanilla icecream and I would eat it.

Kerry (18:57):
I don't remember if that diet was successful or not I'm
having flashbacks and when wetalked about new year's eve and
we were talking about hot dogsand the sauerkraut and all that,
like it's the same thing yeah,well, no, hot dogs and
sauerkraut's fine.

Chrisy (19:08):
I don't know that you should put hot dogs in ice cream
, but they were raw.

Kerry (19:12):
What's the difference between a raw hot dog and a cook
hot dog?

Chrisy (19:15):
well, because it's cold and the ice cream's cold.
I don't know if you want to puta greasy, warm hot dog in your
vanilla ice cream oh, chrissy Imean you.

Kerry (19:24):
I'm trying to rationalize what.
What is the nutritional gamelike what?
What was the theory behind this?
That that was making you thinkthat I don't know?

Chrisy (19:33):
I don't know if at that young age I was in high school,
and maybe when you're that young, a sugar you hear the terms
sugar, rush, yeah, which doesn'texist for me anymore.
As soon as I eat anything sweet, I pass out.

Kerry (19:47):
I'm Googling this as you're talking Hot dog and ice
cream diet.

Chrisy (19:52):
Well, don't say the name .
I remember the name of the diet.

Kerry (19:55):
I won't say the name.

Chrisy (19:56):
But if it even comes up, they may tell you do not ever
do this for it will ruin yourhealth.
But as I've gotten older Ilearned that, oh my gosh, it
really is a thing, is it?
It is, yeah, it is.
Everybody in my room right nowis going DJ Nick's on his phone,
carrie's on her phone.

(20:17):
Oh my God, does it explain whyit's beneficial to do that?

Kerry (20:20):
I'm trying to get to that point.

Chrisy (20:23):
I would hope, because this was 35 plus years ago.

Kerry (20:27):
This diet works and there is science that says it's
dangerous.

Chrisy (20:31):
No freaking way, of course.
So yeah, it was.

Kerry (20:34):
Uh, it was oh my god, that's what?
And your?

Chrisy (20:38):
mom.
Yeah, my mom did encourage thisbecause, you know, I was
supposed to look a certain wayright, I wanted to look a
certain way right so that.
So that's most of my teens andinto my 20s and early 30s.
Probably the best thing thathappened to me was when I
decided to start a family Rightand I decided to get healthy.

Kerry (20:59):
See, I never really thought about my weight growing
up.

Chrisy (21:03):
You are you're very fit.
If you can run, which you'redoing and you've done in the
past, there is a level offitness you have that I have
never achieved.

Kerry (21:12):
Well, but I always have to remind you, but when I run I
always got that stitch in myside and it's only kind of
recently that I've learned howto control that.
But I was, I just weight wasnever an issue.
I mean food was always an issuefor me.
I mean food and my familyequated love.
Food and my family was comfort.
Then there was the whole icecream.

(21:33):
Meant we're going to have somekind of very uncomfortable
conversation.
So there was that, you know,kind of bad association of food.
As much as I never reallythought about weight like I
couldn't even tell you how muchI weighed in high school.
I have no idea.
I don't know if I ever steppedon a scale other than a doctor's
office.

Chrisy (21:48):
You were thin.
I remember you, you'rebeautiful.

Kerry (21:53):
You're still beautiful.

Chrisy (21:54):
And you're taller than me too.
Damn you, Height helps.
Yeah, height does help a littlebit.

Kerry (22:02):
It wasn't until I graduated from college and I was
working at a major theme parkand was performing on stage
where all of a sudden I becameconscious of my weight, although
they never said it to me, but Iremember the women and the
young girls I worked around withthat there was the, you know
people that were in charge ofour performances or whatever

(22:24):
that they would get on themabout their weight.
Now I know I was heavier thanthem because these girls were
wearing like a size four, sizesix.
I don't think I ever fit intothat, like I never remember
wearing clothes that small, butfor whatever reason they didn't
get on me and I think part of itwas that I was a strong
personality.
So I think my boss was kind ofnew.
Like you pick on me aboutweight, I'm going to be really

(22:45):
coming back at you, but I didbecome conscious of my weight.
But at the same time, I think atthat point in my life I did
have a good metabolism and withthe jobs that I was doing I
exerted so many calories a day.
It didn't matter what I ate,because I wasn't going to eat as
I just did too much scubadiving and doing all the things.
It was just so much output, soI got to eat whatever I wanted.

(23:07):
But then when I got my like agrown up job, my body still
wanted to eat like that and Icouldn't do it anymore Because
you know now I had a sedentarylifestyle.

Chrisy (23:16):
So activity is definitely a plus.
I would have to say activity inyour mind should be important
and not to go crazy, thoughdon't be overdoing it.
But I subscribe now to.
I try to commit to 30 minutes aday for five days a week.
Oh, that's good and I thinkthat that's.

(23:37):
I think that's sort of whatthey recommend.
Anyhow, yeah, and it's doable.
If I try to do any more than 30minutes physically, I could,
yeah, but if I did I think Iwould discourage myself because
then it would become more effortand I would get upset with
having to be away from my familyor
away from something I want to do, right the other thing.
I don't want to promoteanything, but what has worked

(23:59):
for me is not an extreme level,but the intermittent fasting.
Yeah, I do agree that.
They do say that it's probablygood to give your system a break
from having to work.
When you eat, you know digestand everything else.
So the fasting is good.
So I do like that.
But sometimes you have to becareful, because sometimes I

(24:21):
intermittent fast and it's notbecause I'm doing it on purpose,
but because I didn't maybestart out my day eating
something and then I get busy.
Yes, out my day eating somethingRight and then.

Kerry (24:30):
I get busy, yes, I get very hungry.
Yep, then the hangry, and thenI probably eat stuff.

Chrisy (24:36):
I should not, or a lot of it, yes, but when I was
younger, too, I was so extreme,so probably that was why I was
fairly successful at maintainingthese horrible diets.

Kerry (24:47):
I still can't get over the ice cream and hot dogs Flash
.
I can't.

Chrisy (24:51):
Because when I did something, there was like no
middle ground for me and I'vetried to get better as I've
gotten older I am definitely a.
you know, they say there's agray area.
It's not always black, it's notalways white.
For me, it was either high orlow, and this is the.
There was nothing in the middle, there was no way to negotiate,
and so if I was not eating, Iwas not eating right, and if I

(25:13):
was eating, oh my god, was Iyeah, I mean and you know that's
kind of funny because mypersonality I am very, you know,
very black and white like thisis right, this is wrong.

Kerry (25:23):
These are the rules.
These are not these.
Everything is like that, veryrigid for the most part, and
then there's not a lot of gray,not when it comes to food and
diet and exercise.
I'm I for whatever reason, thatdoes not translate over into my
brain there, so I don't havethat commitment Now I can get
committed to so many things thatlike it's not a lack of
commitment and everything.
If I have a goal, I'm going toachieve that goal.

(25:44):
In fact, my son, the other,probably about a month ago, said
something and it was like soendearing to me.
We were talking about somefuture plans and my son said
when has Carrie ever plannedsomething and it didn't happen?
You know?
So like that showed me that herecognizes that when I set a
goal that it happens, I make ithappen.
But why can't I stick to a diet?

(26:04):
Then it's the same.
I can't.
It's when it comes to food.

Chrisy (26:08):
It's a bad, bad relationship, just not good I
think that the fact that you'recommitted to just being a
physical person, yeah and Idon't see you eating extreme
food.

Kerry (26:19):
Oh, well, well, I know already.
Did you not see me chow downwhen we went and got tacos and
tequila?

Chrisy (26:25):
no, I didn't you didn't seem to eat any more or less
than anybody else.
No, but it's just.
You definitely can commityourself and I remember this
from the fact that from highschool and early on, I mean you
you said I'm going to do thisand you would do it.
Yes, I probably took theapproach that don't say you're

(26:48):
going to do anything, yeah anddon't do it.
And then no one's disappointedand you're not disappointed.
So I am very distracted easilyand my brain goes in all
different yeah.
I guess I have a focus issue.

Kerry (27:06):
Yeah, I know I do Right, but you're able to focus when
you commit to these crazy turnipdiets.

Chrisy (27:12):
Well, not anymore, Not anymore.
But back then I tell yousomething.
The last time I went on one ofthese crazy things, what was it?
It was probably after I had mydaughter, although I really was
fairly fit and I did not gain.
I gained the same amount ofweight with all three of my kids
, which I only gained 12 poundsthrough each pregnancy and I

(27:33):
generally afterwards lost thatand then some, just my activity
level and things.
I was doing.
I did try to go on after mydaughter, an extreme diet that I
had tried in the past, becauseI was like I just really want to
lose this much and I knew thisdiet used to work for me, so I'm
going to do it.
My gallbladder gave out on meNow it probably was bad already.

(27:54):
From the ice cream and hot dogdiet Well, maybe, or something
else, but I mean, I had a severegallbladder attack.
It was pretty funny.
Because I didn't like I never.
I used to get like heartburnand stuff, but I like spicy food
.
So I just assumed that was it.

Kerry (28:13):
Yeah.

Chrisy (28:13):
And all of a sudden it hit me and I can't say it was
because of that, but it wasclose and it was actually I was
on my week off, so I was likeeating.

Kerry (28:22):
Yeah.

Chrisy (28:22):
And I remember laying in bed with this pain in my upper
stomach.
And I said because I ate abunch of spaghetti the day
before and I was like I calledmy husband.
I said he was not home, he wasout of town and I said the
spaghetti is not digesting, it'sstuck in my gut, it won't go
anywhere else.

Kerry (28:41):
And I'm in pain and I ate too much.

Chrisy (28:43):
And then when I called the doctor and I told where the
pain was, they're like oh honey,you need to go to the emergency
room.
It's probably your gallbladder,and it was, oh my God.
And I was so upset because,number one, I had never had any
major surgery outside of havinga baby.
Yeah, they were going to haveto take.
And I'm like, well, wait, I wasborn with all this equipment.
You're going to take somethingaway.

(29:06):
I don't know that my body'sgoing to want to be missing that
.
And they're trying to tell me.
But it doesn't work.
It's not doing what it'ssupposed to anymore.
I'm like, are you sure?
Because you know, sometimes youtake stuff, I know.
And then I'm like, whoops, no,it was fine, you can't put it
back after that.

Kerry (29:24):
Take it out and you still have the pain.
Whoopsie yeah.

Chrisy (29:27):
But it was hilarious because I actually had it like
Easter weekend that they had todo the surgery to get that
gallbladder.

Kerry (29:37):
And they were able to do it laparoscopically.

Chrisy (29:37):
I was just going to ask you laparoscopic, which they
were, but the surgeon did notknow for sure he's going to be
able to do it, Because I guessmy the stone was enormous and
when they took it out so myincision was a little bit bigger
than normal.
For that but they were able topull it out and the guy he took
it out to the room outside tothe waiting area where my
husband and some other familymembers were waiting until I was

(29:59):
finished.
He had this thing in a jar.
He showed it to him and myhusband said it looked like a
black Easter egg.
It was perfect, it was huge andit was black.
And the doctor was amazed thatI never had anything prior to
that.

Kerry (30:11):
Okay, now here's the big question Do you still have that
black Easter egg?
No, you didn't keep it.

Chrisy (30:15):
No, but I bet you he uses it, you who?
Keeps everything.
He probably uses it as apaperweight on his desk.
I wish somebody you know,because when I had this happen
the phone taking pictures thingwasn't a thing I did not get to
see what this looked like.
They didn't even show you.
It's probably in a medicaljournal somewhere.
See what happens when youextreme diet.

(30:36):
This could be you, yeah, itcould be so watch out when
junkies do not yeah extreme diet, it's not worth it.
Don't encourage your kidshealthy lifestyles.
I try to tell my oldestdaughter look, don't worry about
how you, you're beautiful andshe is, stay active and just eat

(30:56):
healthy and that you've got totell people that it's very
important.
Nobody ever told me that, notone person.
And the other thing was mymother always pushed music, and
I'm not saying I'm not crappingon music programs.

Kerry (31:09):
Music is important.

Chrisy (31:10):
I am very glad I can read music.
I can play to some extent.
It was enjoyable to some level,but that was all my mother was
interested in encouraging me todo.

Kerry (31:18):
Oh for a career.

Chrisy (31:19):
For anything, any extracurricular activity.
Oh I see, it was all music.

Kerry (31:24):
I get where you're going with that now, okay, and I don't
want to be like, hey, I'm thegreatest.

Chrisy (31:29):
I'm not the greatest, but I am fairly athletic.
I am good at many differentsports.

Kerry (31:34):
And you were given that chance.

Chrisy (31:35):
growing up, I was never, ever told you should go out for
this.

Kerry (31:38):
Yeah.

Chrisy (31:39):
You should go out for that Number one.
My father didn't feel a girlshould be that involved in
sports, right.
Generally he wasn't interestedin really participating, right.
If you were playing sports as agirl, I think he would.
If I was a boy, I would have,yeah, shut up, just they, just.
I think it would have been morethat they would have had to
been committed to, I think, themusic thing, because it was more

(31:59):
I could stay home and peoplecould come and give you lessons
there, passive yeah it was lessoff there.
Yeah, they didn't have to takeme anywhere.
Not that my mom didn she wouldtake me for music lessons but I
really feel like they shouldhave encouraged the sports thing
, because I think that wouldhave helped to, instead of
throwing me on extreme diets andmaking me sit on a stationary
bike, which I still love.

(32:20):
I think it's just that's what Ido like to do the stationary.
Right, I think treadmills arewonderful, any kind of equipment
that encourages you to moveright is good.

Kerry (32:27):
Yes, I know, and I think that you know that just realized
, while you were talking aboutthat, a little difference
between you and I.
So my dad, after having fivegirls I think he realized he
wasn't getting a boy Right.
So with me he did do thingslike he they did I played
softball and you know justdifferent things and stuff but I
think it was like he realized Iguess you know you have four

(32:48):
girls and you know justdifferent things and stuff, but
I think it was like he realizedI guess you know you have four
girls and you have a big gap andthen you get this last fifth
one and it's a girl too.
This, this is all you'regetting.
So if you want to makesomething out of this tomboy, it
is you know.
So I did have a little bit ofthat growing up.

Chrisy (33:02):
but let me tell you something else that always
amazed me with you and with thepeople that you were friends
with while we were in school,being in the band.

Kerry (33:10):
Yes.

Chrisy (33:11):
Playing an instrument.

Kerry (33:12):
Yes.

Chrisy (33:13):
And moving Junkies.
But let me tell you this when Iplayed an instrument, it was
stationary like my bike.
Chrissy's all about stationary.
I'll move like crazy, but Onlyone place.
It's like a cartoon with me I'mnot going anywhere, but I'm
moving like crazy.
Yeah, the fact that anybody whois in a band marching band.

Kerry (33:34):
I'm talking although.

Chrisy (33:35):
I guess a rock band too.
Now I did.
I was in a rock band briefly,and I was I would sing but that
kind of movement is yeah, you'rejiggling around, look at me,
move A band, a marching bandthat you are able to do those

(33:58):
different movements and continueto play and stay on.
No, it's a different level offantastic.
Yeah, I give props to that.

Kerry (34:03):
That is amazing I didn't think about that.

Chrisy (34:05):
You're right, and so and plus the fact that you're
carrying something rightsometimes heavy oh my gosh.

Kerry (34:10):
I'll never forget because one of the bands I was in was
like a competition band and youhad to try out to be in this
band.
It was like, collected from allthe different kids in the area,
created this, this band, and wewould travel and compete.
I was playing the xylophone.

Chrisy (34:25):
So it was this really heavy piece of equipment.

Kerry (34:28):
I swear to God, I think that thing weighed like 50, 70
pounds.
It was probably half my weight.
So we were doing this paradeand I think we were in Wisconsin
doing the parade or something.
But it was really long, it wasin the summer, it was hot.
We're wearing this big uniform.
I normally wouldn't have marchedwith that.
I normally would have had thebells, but the kid who was

(34:52):
supposed to play the xylophonegot sick, so they moved me over
to that.
So I was marching with thisheavier piece of equipment and
we're doing this parade and Iwas committed.
I was like nope, I'm making itthrough the judging stand or
whatever.
And I mean it was hard, it was.
I do remember like I wasstruggling and I didn't know at
the time the precursors of likepassing out.
You know where you would getthe chills and you know like the
shakes and all this other stuff, right, but I had been

(35:14):
experiencing that for like amile while we were on this
parade route and I thinkeveryone around me could tell
that like I was maybe going topass out because they kept
trying to take them from me andI'm like no, I got it, I'm doing
this.

Chrisy (35:30):
I'm doing it.
There's that commitment.

Kerry (35:31):
I was talking about.
Right, but I wasn't dieting, Iwas, you know something else,
but you had a goal and you weregoing to stick with it.
Finally, when we passed thejudging stands and I knew that
basically our judging part wasover, they came over and I was
like, okay, fine, you can takethis from me and I'll never
forget.
They lifted that off of me.

(35:52):
It took two guys.
I mean, that's how heavy thisfreaking thing was.
They, the parents, came over,lifted it off of me and thank
God somebody was behind me,Because as soon as they lifted
that boom, I started going down.
Never had experienced that andI remember starting to pass out
and going down and I was like inmy brain, what is going on?

(36:12):
And I realized what washappening and I just like, no, I
you will not pass out.
No, like I was still in thatcompetition.
Like no, you can't.
You know, this will look bad onthe, on the, you know judging
or whatever.
But yeah, I'll never forgetthat.
Yeah, so you're right.
I guess marching band was anendurance sport.

Chrisy (36:28):
Definitely so.
Anybody out there who did bandor is currently or has children
doing band tons of admirationfor that, because it can't be
easy.
Anybody who's sitting therewatching that has to, I would
hope, acknowledge that the kidsand people who do that.

Kerry (36:46):
It's crazy.
It's fantastic who do that.
It's uh, it's fantastic, so,but well, this was good to wrap
up.
Uh, a little bit on where we'reat and in our dieting month
into the year.
So what I want to know from thejunkies is I want to know what
crazy diets you guys have doneor are on, or whatever, or
considered yeah, real quick.

Chrisy (37:06):
One other thing yeah, when they talk about dry January
.

Kerry (37:10):
Oh yeah, what's that about?
What's that concept about?
I've never heard of that.

Chrisy (37:13):
Well, I mean, I guess I mean only recently, but why?

Kerry (37:18):
Because they're trying to get healthy.
I guess because they drank toomuch the six weeks before.

Chrisy (37:22):
But isn't the whole?
I'm going to join the gym.
I'm going to eat better.
This year, the this year.
The resolution's not enough.
Now they have to also declaredry January.
Dry like it's dry skin, januaryCause.
Yes, in Northeast Ohio I'malways like wondering what the
heck is everybody dry January?
How much did you drink?

(37:42):
You need to be all dried outnow I just imagined somebody in
like some tank, you know, justlike completely dry, I mean
maybe.

Kerry (37:51):
I would need to be like a dry July because we go on our
big vacation in June and that'sprobably my heavy drinking
season of the year, so I wouldhave to do dry July because the
dry January.
But I never really heard ofthat until recently.

Chrisy (38:04):
We need to start like just throwing stuff in the wrong
order out there and confusingeverybody, while we're, like
everybody, dry August.

Kerry (38:12):
Everybody for dry August, it's dry.
Or what's the thing they dowith the beard?
No shave November.
Oh my God, is that a thing?
Oh, that's a thing my husbanddoes.

Chrisy (38:21):
Is it for a girl?
No, it's no.
Shave your legs.
Everybody's walking aroundlooking Europeanan yeah, it is.

Kerry (38:27):
It has to do with, I think it's supporting cancer or
something.
Well, that I can get behind,but it's like a whole no shave
thing.
But I hate it because then hegets all like out of control
what is my january benefit?

Chrisy (38:40):
I I don't know.
It's certainly not benefitingthe industry that sells the
spirits.

Kerry (38:46):
Definitely budweiser didn't come up with that one.
No, I don't think so, mogandavid maybe benefits your liver.

Chrisy (38:52):
A benefit your liver, yeah, I don't know.

Kerry (38:55):
Yeah, all right.
Well, that could be anotherthing.
Someone find out where this dryjanuary thing came from and
tell us so?

Chrisy (39:01):
yeah, and junkies, I would just say remember, just
eat healthy foods.
Splurge when you want, amen,just some minor physical
activity.
I'll do everybody the best,don't do extreme stuff.
Yeah, moderation.
Because it leads to many, manyyears of just unfortunate gain
of weight and discouraging yourpositivity.

(39:25):
And Oregon started deciding togive up on, you know, trying to
do what they're supposed to do.
You know I still miss mygallbladder.

Kerry (39:39):
All right, everybody.
Well, thank you for joining us.
Be sure to check out ourFacebook page for any you know.
Give us any of those commentsand feedbacks.
Also, wherever you're listeningto us from a five-star review
like follow, everything likethat.
We sure appreciate it.
We sure do.
All right, bye-bye junkies.
Eat those ice cream and hotdogs.
Yeah, let me know, yum, yum.
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