June 18, 2025 • 31 mins
Our Spooky Dysfunction: Is That Your Dead Relative or Just a Random Spirit Passing Through? What happens when a steadfast believer in the paranormal sits down with a committed skeptic? In this thought-provoking episode, Chrissy and Kerry navigate the complex terrain of ghosts, psychics, and signs from beyond—revealing how deeply personal these beliefs truly are.
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DJ Nick (00:07):
Welcome to the Dysfunction Junkies podcast.
We may not have seen it all,but we've seen enough.
And now here are your hosts,Chrisy and Kerry.
Kerry (00:21):
Hello Junkies and, most importantly, happy birthday to
you.
Chrisy (00:27):
It's after my birthday, I know it is Thank.
Kerry (00:29):
God, but I wasn't allowed to say it beforehand.
I'm Keri and this is Chrissy'sbirthday week.
Yeah, I'm.
Chrisy (00:39):
Chrissy, we're going to have a whole week.
No, no, I don't do whole weeksor whole months or anything.
Kerry (00:45):
I'm lucky to do a whole day.
Well, we're 24 hours postChrissy's birthday, so I wasn't
allowed to say it last week,because Chrissy's rule of
birthdays is you can't celebratebefore, so I'm celebrating it
now.
Of course, I did acknowledge ityesterday for you on your
actual birthday, but I ampublicly saying happy birthday
(01:05):
girl.
Thank you, you're welcome.
So I thought that this was agreat way to lead into today's
episode also.
Chrisy (01:13):
Why is that?
Kerry (01:17):
Because you know birthdays, family signs and
symbols, psychic superstitions.
We're going to talk about thewhole gamut.
So what do you think about allthat?
Chrissy, chrissy go, no, youdon't really want me to go.
Chrissy's amped up.
She is excited for this episode.
Chrisy (01:36):
I'm trying to bring it down a little bit.
It's a hard topic for me in thefact that I don't want to Well,
I try to say I don't want tocome off badly, and yet I do
constantly.
You would say, well, if youdon't want to come off badly,
wouldn't you like try to work atnot coming off badly?
(01:58):
I guess what I'm trying to dois tell you don't be offended by
what I'm about to say.
It's your problem, not mine.
There you go.
Kerry (02:09):
I'm not going to change how I am.
This is our safe space.
Chrissy, you are allowed to saywhat you want.
We have big, broad shouldersand this is our safe space, so
please do it is okay.
Actually, Chrissy's wordsbefore we started this was I'm
definitely going to hell.
Chrisy (02:20):
Yes, or at least make some people and my intention is
not to make anybody feel bad.
This is a topic which I thinkdoes separate people a lot.
Yeah, because I think people dohave like definite strong
feelings about this one way orthe other.
Kerry (02:36):
Right, exactly, yeah, and this is one where you and I are
kind of polar opposites on ourbeliefs of ghosts or psychics,
or signs and symbols.
Chrisy (02:47):
I do, kind of I've had personal experience with
something that's not been ofthis earth, right In my opinion,
yeah, but the psychic thingmaybe, because it's not
completely firsthand when you,when you experience something
weird where it doesn't seem likeit's right, like maybe you're
you feel like there's anotherpresence somewhere near you.
Yes, it's, it's you and thatfeeling that you're getting.
(03:10):
But now when you bring in thepsychic, yeah, it's somebody
who's trying to sort oftranslate from one world to the
next.
And I don't, I do, I'm going tocome right out, I don't.
I don't believe in itpersonally.
It's not what I believe in.
Kerry (03:26):
I definitely feel like there is more than what is
physically here that we can see.
So I do believe.
I do believe in ghost, I dobelieve in we grew up with one.
Well, that that's part of why Idid I, the house that I grew up
in we had a ghost, did he atleast help with?
Chrisy (03:46):
like the mortgage.
Kerry (03:47):
No, and you know that was an squatter.
This is the one thing in ourfamily that we squatter.
This is the one thing in ourfamily that we didn't.
We were not our normal selves,like normally.
Like you know, we don't talkabout things.
We talked about the ghost.
We normalize the ghost in ourhouse Like it was.
(04:08):
It was, it was talked about.
It was like, oh, if we heardsomebody walking upstairs, oh,
that's just the ghost.
And it was only until the lateryears that my sisters and I
kind of named the ghost, which Ithink I'll keep the name
nameless right now.
But yeah, we, it was totallynormalized having a ghost in our
house.
Chrisy (04:25):
Yeah, Everybody was on board with this, pretty much.
Yeah, my father would have toldme to get the hell out of there
.
There's nothing in here, justget out of my ear.
My show is coming back on.
I heard something.
Kerry (04:39):
No, yeah, so it was very normalized and you know there's
a lot of people that don'tbelieve in this, and if you
don't believe me, that's fine,it's OK, I know my truth, ok,
yes, my experiences there aredefinitely very strong and
(05:02):
there's been other times whereI've had experiences where that
things were present or, you know, experience them.
That, yeah, I definitelybelieve in the afterlife and
ghost.
Yes, 100 percent.
So therefore, yes, I do believein psychics.
I do think there's a lot offakes, I do think there's a lot
of people that are rippingpeople off, but I'm 100 percent
(05:22):
believe that there are trulypeople that are gifted that can
translate that world.
Chrisy (05:26):
Wow, go, chrissy, go, I can see it on your face um well,
you know, a few episodes ago II bought my ticket to hell, yes,
and now I'm buying first classto hell with this and I'm going
to say, hey, me, as you know,lousy at religion, yes, get it
(05:47):
wrong a lot.
Unless it's a movie that I'mgetting my information from
generally doesn't translate mybrain real well.
And ten commandments, yeah,that list they give you yes is
that just catholics, or doesother religions have
commandments?
I don't even know.
I'm so sorry, it's not just.
Kerry (06:06):
Catholic.
Well, because it's OldTestament.
It's Old Testament, it'sChristian.
There's a lot of other yeah, soyeah.
Chrisy (06:11):
But if it's Old Testament, are you allowed to
say Christian, because that'sprior to Christ?
I guess that's prior to Christ,right yeah?
Kerry (06:16):
So, yeah, there's a lot Okay yeah, of religion, Religion
.
Chrisy (06:21):
And I just realized.
I was just informed that everyone of those commandments is
assigned a number and it doesn'tdeviate Like I just thought it
was a list, so sometimes theyfall in different order.
I was just apprised of the factthat each one of them is
assigned that number and doesnot change.
It does not change Like all ofa sudden number one's, all of a
sudden number eight.
DJ Nick (06:42):
On the list or something.
Kerry (06:43):
Right so.
Chrisy (06:44):
I was told that the way I feel about this and you're
like, you're such a hypocriteLike you don't even follow.
There's nobody quoting thisquote list of commandments for,
but I seem to recall that andit's.
Kerry (06:56):
I was told it was number one on the list okay thou shall
have no false gods before me yes, and commandment number one top
oh, the list so I always youactually got your ticket to
heaven no, no because
Chrisy (07:13):
I'm about to lose it again, so yeah, and to me
believing that somebody canperform, in my opinion, what
seems to be something onlydesignated for God Okay, to be
able to translate those worlds.
It seems wrong that if you're avery religious person, you
would believe in this type ofthing.
Religious person, you wouldbelieve in this type of thing.
(07:35):
But, as my husband has pointedout, it has been people who are
of very strong faith that seemto really believe in this and
have had experience, and, intheir opinion, a positive
experience, with this type ofthing.
You know, going to a psychic.
Kerry (07:54):
Well, I can say that in my personal experiences, I
mostly have had good experienceswhen I've had encounters with
the afterlife, but I've also hada very negative, bad experience
.
So I do believe that you haveto be very careful on this
(08:16):
subject because just as thereare good ghosts, there's not so
good, there's demonic or not sonice ghost, and so you do have
it's a very fine lines, yeah,but I can see, I can see your
thought where you're going onthis, the commandments thing.
Chrisy (08:32):
Well, now I'm going on the fact that you're going to
this thing.
Kerry (09:01):
You're sitting with this person.
They're trying to do a readingfor you or bring forth people
loved.
That's very popular on TV thatwas holding a Coliseum event.
Okay, but that was it.
I've never gone to onepersonally, or whatever, because
I do think that there's thatvery fine line of you could be
calling the wrong and if theydon't know what they're line of,
you could be calling the wrongand if they don't know what
they're doing, you could becalling the wrong thing.
Stop off at the psychic hut onthe side of the road.
No, in the 24-hour neon sign.
(09:23):
You know psychic.
Call this number.
Chrisy (09:25):
No they all have a sign like that.
I know they do isn't it crazy?
Kerry (09:28):
there's an industry for that, but I very much do believe
that, um, our loved onesespecially are with, and I do
think that they're alwayssending signs and symbols.
For instance, for me there's acouple things that are telltales
, and my husband always doesn'tbelieve in this either, but
lately he's starting to see,like maybe there is something to
(09:49):
this.
The number 57.
The number 57 was somethingthat was kind of my mom.
That was always something thatwas somebody was always sending
that sign to her, and then it'skind of started translating to
me.
And now, especially since mymom has passed, I've definitely
been seeing 57 a lot more, andit could be random things, but
(10:10):
it'll just pop up and it's like,oh, I just feel like that's
mom's way of saying hello to meor helping me know that we're on
the right path.
So it could be somethingtotally.
What was something recent thatthe 57 dropped stopped up on?
Oh, I was when I was bookinghotel reservations for mom's
funeral.
Almost all of the hotelreservations had 57 in them.
(10:31):
I mean it's all.
You mean like 5760112 orwhatever was the reservation
number, and all of thereservations had 57.
They start like that or had a57 in it and that's just random.
Oh, another really good one Ourfriends with the plane.
They fly privately.
So you know, when you flycommercially, you have flight
numbers.
(10:51):
You know so, oh, you're onSouthwest, you know 718 or
whatever flight number.
Well, when they fly privately,you know 718 or whatever flight
number.
Well, when they fly privately,they get what's called a squat
code, so it's basically like thelittle flight number.
So the air traffic controllersknow, almost every time we fly,
57 shows up and they're likethat's so weird, we don't hardly
ever.
In fact, the very first time itwas 5757 showed up on there
(11:12):
because I was really nervous thefirst time we flow with them,
because I was like, oh, this issafe and whatever.
And then that 5757 showed upand I'm like, oh, I'm good,
someone's looking out for us,yeah, okay.
Chrisy (11:23):
I, I'm so the face you're giving me.
Okay, chrissy, go well.
The one thing that really wasfreaking me out was the fact
that you said that not only canyou connect with a soul, that
means something to you.
That is a good soul or spirityou're conjuring in like people,
(11:44):
could it's that's terrifying.
Kerry (11:45):
It is terrifying, so I have to be very careful.
Chrisy (11:47):
Well, what made these people bad like?
Is it charles manson comingthrough?
Or I'm like who, where doestheir background and how did
they sneak in on your time?
I'd almost be angry.
I'd be like, look, I'm payingfor this, I don't have time for
you.
Shh, get out of here.
Mr White-FacedBlood-Dripping-From-Mouth.
(12:11):
I keep seeing that flash fromthe Exorcist.
Hello, there you go.
Anybody remember that crazyface that popped up on the
screen all of a sudden?
I do.
Natalie does.
Natalie does Fingers.
Kerry (12:24):
Fingers will tell you about it.
So, yeah, you've got a lot onyour list over there, chrissy.
Well, but see, I think this isall part of our dysfunction in
our lives.
I mean, like you know, some ofthese, some people, rule their
life by this every decision theymake they'll go to a psychic or
every whatever you know.
Chrisy (12:43):
And yeah, boy you gotta have a lot of lousy people in
your family.
Nobody can give you good advice.
You're digging up.
People have probably been gonefor who knows how long.
They can't even flip andunderstand what your world looks
like.
Now, you know, should I not dothe internet for this?
And then somebody would die,like 50 years ago?
DJ Nick (13:02):
What?
Now?
Chrisy (13:02):
there's an explanation, that's required.
DJ Nick (13:04):
Well, what's the?
Chrisy (13:05):
internet.
Before I can give you advice onthis, I need to give me some
backstory.
So one thing on my list is howis there comfort?
Yeah, maybe you're getting acomfort in the moment that you
feel that this person definitely, and it's somebody who you
loved tremendously, yeah, so inthat moment you're getting
(13:27):
comfort, knowing that you'regetting in some way time again
with them, an extension of time.
Everybody says, if I had it, ifI had five more minutes with
you, I would give this up.
Right, but wouldn't it afterthe fact, wouldn't that reality
of I was with them for thislittle bit of time they came
through, but then it wouldn't itbe like another takeaway, like
(13:49):
you're the loss is there again.
And why would you want to putyourself through that?
Yeah, because it is like it's aloss again.
They're gone.
Kerry (13:59):
I see your point, I do see your point in that, but I
think it just depends on how,and maybe for some people that's
very true that it's like traumaresponse, where then they're
going to go relive that.
But for me it's, it's alwayscomforting.
It's always like when I, whenthese little signs or symbols
(14:20):
show up, like one of the otherones is a dragonfly.
You know, my husband hassomebody that had passed away,
and him and his sister, whenthey see a dragonfly it's to
them a representative of thatperson.
And it's just so odd becausewe've been together at times in
a time of year where dragonfliesare not like in season, and all
of a sudden a dragonfly showsup and it's just comforting,
(14:41):
it's like, oh, that person'shere with us and it's kind of
like it just brings comfort, itbrings, it brings a like a warm,
blanket feeling on you, so andit doesn't cause that recycling,
that loss.
But again, I could see where itdepends on the person.
Chrisy (14:57):
So when you say things like that and you're receiving,
you gain comfort from this.
Yes, it makes me feel and lookeven worse, the fact that I just
totally don't.
I don't get it.
How about actually summoningrandom people that you don't
even know, like, how do youhandle that?
Like you're at a psychiater,you paid for it, and like, uh,
(15:18):
somebody accidentally comes inon the wavelength or what,
however they're, they'reshuffling through you're, you're
.
Kerry (15:25):
That sounds like something you got from one of
your movies oh, I'm sure it isthat whoopee goldberg movie.
Chrisy (15:31):
Well, talk about yeah, really, let's talk about this
just for real, because there'ssome movies that really touch on
this where the this poor guy,he was shot or he was shot right
yeah, he killed, he wasmurdered.
Yeah, we're talking about whichis even harder now because the
gentleman who played the lead.
(15:52):
It was one thing to watch thisand it was a tearjerker as it
was, but now he is a ghost he isdeceased now and everybody
loved the.
You know Patrick Swayze waswonderful and you know, but he
can't go.
Who decided this for him?
You cannot go to the good place.
Because now you got your dopeygirlfriend doesn't see that you
(16:13):
know she's obviously, you know,not able to look out for herself
.
You got to hang around and makeknow she's obviously, you know,
not able to look look out forherself.
Uh, you got, you got to hangaround and make sure she's okay.
And then whoopi goldberg, Idon't know, I really I'm
bothered at the fact she got heroscar for that, because she
really deserved the oscar forthe color purple.
I mean, the oscar thing is likeit, you have to take it with the
(16:34):
grain you do because they justlike totally pass over you for
like legitimate stuff and thenthey just toss it at you because
they're just like.
You know what we just got to dothis, throw you a bone.
Right, people are starting tocatch on that.
We're just full of it.
Kerry (16:46):
But yeah, the random people thing I don't ever think
about because I feel likethere's.
If someone's going to come toyou, there's a purpose.
So I don't.
I've never thought about, but Ialso.
I'm not.
Like I said, I'm not trying toconjure people, I'm just they
come, I know, chrissy chrissy,this is good.
Chrisy (17:03):
This just seems so exhausting because you're
walking around dealing withpeople who are still here
walking around causingdysfunction in our lives,
dysfunction annoying the hellout of you driving too slow
walking, walking too slow.
I remember you said that was athing.
Yeah, slow walkers, you know,being quiet, I had a thing with
quiet people and now you're likeYou're just like doubling up on
(17:27):
your idiot people, the onesthat were gone, and then they
could just be random people whoyou never even had to deal with
in the first place.
Now you got a whole list ofother crappy people.
You know I yeah, I wish we wereon video for this.
I'm like holding my head oh,it's just, I don't know, know, I
(17:52):
don't, I don't understand it.
I don't know how to feel aboutthis.
I am having so much trouble.
You're having a lot, right I?
Kerry (17:59):
see, I've.
Usually I'm the one with aphysical reaction.
Right now, chrissy's totallythe one with the physical
reactions.
Chrisy (18:05):
She's clasping her chest , she's scratching her head and
I just know people and I justfeel horrible because and
believe me, you know me you'renot going to take, you don't
give a crap what I think aboutthis.
I have an opinion on it,obviously, and you have an
experience with it that hashelped you, yeah, so how?
(18:27):
Again, this is why I'm ahorrible person.
How can I take that away fromyou?
You're not Well.
You you're not well.
I hope not.
Oh no, I mean because there'sother ways.
I'd rather totally destroy andannihilate you.
Kerry (18:37):
This is not one of them I mean I'm gonna get said with
words of love if I'm gonna tryand totally humiliate and go at
you.
Chrisy (18:46):
It's not gonna be over your need to feel like you
connected with something that isa loss for you?
Kerry (18:52):
No, no, I'm very strong in my, obviously very strong in
my opinions.
I have grown from our familynot talking about things.
I talk about things.
I don't take other people'sopinions or their.
If they think differently thanme, that's fine, I can respect
it.
I know this is my experience.
Think differently than me,that's fine, I can respect it.
(19:13):
I know this is my experience.
My experiences is accumulationof all the dysfunction in my
life, all the good things thathave happened in my life, all
the good people in my life and,unfortunately, even the bad
people in my life.
So you will not take away fromme by having your opposite
opinion.
So I'm good, we're good.
Well generally.
Chrisy (19:27):
I feel like maybe I take that for granted.
I would hope that most peopleknow me, yeah, and know how I go
to the extreme with a lot ofthe way.
I think I hope you look at meand say, well, that's her
problem, which it is.
And that's more of it has to dowith me than you, so maybe I
don't want to be ignored.
Kerry (19:47):
Well, God, no, To quote somebody.
Chrisy (19:49):
I will not be ignored.
Name the movie Fatal Attraction.
Glenn Close Was his name,daniel, I think.
Anyway, I will not be ignored,but I guess, on the other end of
that being a hypocrite, ignoreme if you're feeling offended so
you can move on and I don't getblamed for how I've made you
(20:10):
feel.
Kerry (20:11):
Yeah, no, I mean, I really do try to be open to
other.
Obviously, I don't want to hurtanyone's feelings.
I don't want to offend people,but at the same time people are
so easily offended that it'slike you know, you can't.
You can't appease everybody.
I'm living my life.
These are my opinions.
I try not to push them on otherpeople, but certainly when
(20:32):
we're having conversations likethis, I will share.
So I guess I am definitely afirm believer in the afterlife
and ghosts.
I do believe in signs andsymbols, yes.
Chrisy (20:42):
So well, let me ask you this, and maybe this would be a
future episode, so we don't haveto touch on it too much.
Yeah, but in talking with this,somehow this comes up in my
mind too.
If you feel like you have anexperience with psychics, what
is your thoughts onreincarnation?
Kerry (20:58):
it's probably against my religion to have this thought
now we're being a little bithypocritical.
Chrisy (21:05):
Okay, but this is why yeah so Ten Commandments doesn't
say thou shall not believe onewith someone else prior to being
this person now.
Kerry (21:15):
But they do say you should not believe in things
that are godlike prior to theone and only I personally feel
like our souls are everlastingand so that you know when they
say you have a soulmate, youknow like I, there's no doubt in
my mind, 100 percent Jim and Iare soulmates.
Like I think we've beenconnected in lives before, I
(21:36):
think we'll be connected inlives after.
Chrisy (21:38):
But doesn't that make a definition for reincarnation?
Your souls did cross paths inanother life.
Kerry (21:45):
Yes, therefore, reincarnation Right.
So yes, but I'm not necessarilythinking that I'm gonna be like
I was, or a tree before, andthen next time I'm gonna be a
frog.
Chrisy (21:56):
You know like, I'm not thinking like that but isn't
that pretty crappy for the frogsand the trees?
DJ Nick (22:01):
out there that they will always be a frog or a tree.
Chrisy (22:06):
They never can like move up, you know, and and our task
is good we not become somethingbetter?
Kerry (22:13):
You know what this is reminding me of, when we talked
about superstitions in ourepisode and you said this is
funny.
You're asking me these rulesand I know the answers, but I've
never.
You know I'm thinking the samething, like okay, wait, what are
the rules of this?
Like I never really gave thisthought.
So there's nothing bad aboutbeing a tree or a frog.
Have you ever been one?
Chrisy (22:31):
No, but think about it.
Kerry (22:39):
Doesn't sound like a good time to me, but maybe there's
some enlightenment there thatI'm not clicking into, you know,
and it also doesn't make sense,as I just said, referencing,
yeah, see.
That rule doesn't work becauseI was just saying that when we
see a dragonfly or a butterflyor whatever that reminds us
that's Now see, that doesn'tmean that person is in there.
That just means that that's arepresentation that we
physically can see.
That's embodied that personDoesn't mean that they're now
eternally a dragonfly.
(23:01):
I'll help you out with this one.
Chrisy (23:02):
Yeah, and don't say I didn't ever give you anything.
Carry your folder.
No, I'm going to say in yousaying that you don't believe
that that person is now adragonfly, right, but what I
think you might be trying to sayand just go with this.
If you're not, is that thatperson who you're thinking of
sent that?
Kerry (23:21):
that's what I'm trying to say.
Oh yeah, right, yeah, yeah,yeah, that's what you're trying
to say I got you I got you, babe.
Chrisy (23:26):
I thought you were gonna do another password I know I
there is no password.
Dragon fly.
Carrie says Password of the dayis dragon fly.
Password of the day is dragonfly.
If Carrie actually sees adragon fly, then that's the
password.
Yeah, you know what Did?
I touch on this in thesuperstition one.
(23:46):
Now you're talking about dragonflies and stuff showing up and
again, I don't know where thiscame from.
And I don't know where thiscame from and I don't remember
anybody ever telling me this Ifa bird shows up in a place where
it shouldn't be, like it'shanging out somewhere you don't
want it, all right, like it'sannoying you and it like decided
to nest on your gutter andyou're afraid when you come out
it's going to attack you.
(24:06):
Okay, and just shows up thereand won't leave.
It brings bad luck.
So I get very freaked out whenI see certain critters in a
place where they don't belongBirds, possum, just all of a
sudden strolling up out ofnowhere.
I freak out.
I'm like, oh my God, it'sbringing something bad,
something wicked.
(24:27):
This way comes.
I'm referencing actuallyliterature, I believe.
Is that not a book One for me?
English literature major.
My husband got upset becausewhen Princess Diana passed away,
we were sitting on the porch atmy parents' house.
DJ Nick (24:44):
We did not know she had passed away because it was
Paris time.
Chrisy (24:47):
Yeah, we were not informed yet this had happened.
Okay, but about the time ithappened, we were sitting on the
porch and we witnessed a birdevent.
A bird event, it was a birdevent and we were like, oh my
gosh, it was a bunch of morningdoves swarming in the sky.
All of a sudden, and it wasjust around that time that she
(25:10):
probably would have passed away,and it was nuts.
We never seen it before orafter.
Yeah, my husband said there area lot of bugs in the air and
they were feeding in that area.
So he's totally not believing.
I don't know that.
I believe that that was a signof what had occurred.
I mean, I understand princessdiana was important to a lot of
(25:30):
people and, yeah, I mean I lovedher, you know, come on uh you
know, right, I'm american.
Why wouldn't I love a britishprincess?
Kerry (25:37):
of course, nick's scooting in here.
DJ Nick (25:39):
I feel like he has something he wants to add so I
think, because they were, thebirds were swarming and they
were feeding, and it was aboutat the same time as when,
probably, princess diana hadgotten to the car accident.
So chrissy always attributesthat to her, which is funny
because you know she doesn'twant to believe in the psychic
but right well, it's the same asthe superstitions, yeah so,
(26:02):
yeah, well, because now see,there's no third party involved
in this.
Chrisy (26:06):
So it's my personal first experience.
There's no other person, theseare creatures occurring and I am
a firsthand witness to this,you having to be there and sit
there and tell me that so-and-sohas now come through or
connected with me and I need toshare with you what they're
trying to tell me.
DJ Nick (26:28):
For you that's an interference, but if you're
experiencing firsthand, I'm withyou on the psychic thing,
because I have a hard timebelieving in that.
Chrisy (26:35):
Yeah.
DJ Nick (26:36):
You lose me on these other things about.
Chrisy (26:38):
He says that and he gets very upset, because I worked
for a museum in the Youngstownarea for a while and I was
totally getting bad vibesworking there.
I was freaked out because Ireally felt like something.
I never saw anything.
I did hear what appeared tosound like footsteps.
I believe coming up steps ofthis museum and I was working
upstairs on the top level and Iwas like, oh good, so, and so's
(26:59):
here.
It was a day when the museumwas kind of empty, it wasn't
open for tours or anything, andI had just gone there I had an
internship there.
I was trying to do and I heardfootsteps clear as a day coming
up the steps and I was like, ohgood, so, and so's coming up,
you know, and it was like thesteps were lasted way longer
than I knew they were and thennobody showed up and I totally
freaked out.
(27:20):
So I went like first, I wentdown to the second level and I
was like everything's dark,nothing here, first level, walk
through this whole place,nothing and then I was an idiot.
I went.
Well, the basement was set upfor more uh stuff, so it wasn't
like you're going into a dark,dank basement, it was actually
somewhere where people would goand look at stuff and nobody
there.
(27:40):
I totally freaked out and I likegrabbed my bag and I like ran.
I ran past the one other partwhere like all the office and
like the director and stuff forthe museum were in there and I
think what was funny to them isthey actually saw me like leave
in a hurry and I get in my car.
I didn't come back, see, sothere's a little, but it was a
feeling that's what Iexperienced and it was firsthand
(28:02):
again yeah this was just me andthis experience.
but, nick, you're crapping allover this, but you did have one
experience that you felt and andit made you sit straight up.
It was in the middle of thenight.
Go ahead and share it at yourexperience.
Dj Nick, he doesn't evenremember.
He's looking at you like whatNick go.
DJ Nick (28:22):
I thought I heard something.
Chrisy (28:24):
No, it was more than that you encountered a sensation
of smell.
Oh yeah, Smells are definitelythere so I.
DJ Nick (28:32):
I smelled what I thought was a perfume my mom
used to wear.
Oh, but see how you and this iswhere I'm actually- smells like
that qualifies so.
But this is where I'm similar tochrissy.
Whereas you say, those thingsgive you comfort, when I did do
that, it doesn't give me comfortbecause my mother was gone,
right, and it just see me.
(28:53):
It just it brought back, Iguess, a feeling of you know
she's not here anymore, right.
So I'm glad that it works foryou and it gives you comfort,
right?
I'm actually closely alignedfor once with my wife a lot of
times.
If I were in that, really, Ithink that's the only time I
ever remember that.
Kerry (29:12):
Yeah, well, I think I can see that because you know, it's
kind of like how, how do yousay you know how, like, when you
eat certain things it's acomfort food, you know.
So it brings oh you, it bringsback memories.
It's invoking a memory, so Icould see where some of those
experiences are evoking a memoryas opposed to helping give you
peace and answers for validationor something is maybe what I'm
(29:35):
trying to think of.
Chrisy (29:37):
It's personal to everybody that's a healthier
point of view would be and noneof us, I'm guilty of this,
everybody's but when thehealthier thing be to come to an
understanding that there's alot of things in this life and
in this world that you're nevergoing to have an answer to.
Kerry (29:52):
Oh, 100%.
I think that's probably why alot of this is where we are
trying to make answers forourselves.
Chrisy (29:57):
Right.
We can't accept the fact thatthere's no answer.
Kerry (29:59):
Right, exactly so.
Chrisy (30:01):
But yeah, this is interesting, I think maybe this
might be something we can cometo later on too.
Kerry (30:06):
Yes, I think so Absolutely, but it was fun to
start diving down this rabbithole.
Yeah, totally dysfunctional.
But what I want to know is whatencounters other people have
had or what their side of thestory is.
Are you on Chrissy's line andNick's line on this?
Are you more like me?
Do you find comfort in it, ordo you believe in it, not
believe in it, or have you hadexperiences?
Chrisy (30:28):
I would love to hear that from all of you, me too,
and I am open to both sides.
Kerry (30:31):
Yeah, absolutely yeah absolutely, and again, we are
not licensed therapists.
This is just our personalopinion on these things, our
feelings on this.
So, yes, as we dive down these,these things that help drive us
in our lives.
So, anyways, it was greatlistening or talking to all of
you guys.
Hope you enjoyed listening tous and we'll see you next week.
Bye.
Welcome to the Dysfunction Junkies podcast.
We may not have seen it all,but we've seen enough.
And now here are your hosts,Chrisy and Kerry.
Kerry (00:21):
Hello Junkies and, most importantly, happy birthday to
you.
Chrisy (00:27):
It's after my birthday, I know it is Thank.
Kerry (00:29):
God, but I wasn't allowed to say it beforehand.
I'm Keri and this is Chrissy'sbirthday week.
Yeah, I'm.
Chrisy (00:39):
Chrissy, we're going to have a whole week.
No, no, I don't do whole weeksor whole months or anything.
Kerry (00:45):
I'm lucky to do a whole day.
Well, we're 24 hours postChrissy's birthday, so I wasn't
allowed to say it last week,because Chrissy's rule of
birthdays is you can't celebratebefore, so I'm celebrating it
now.
Of course, I did acknowledge ityesterday for you on your
actual birthday, but I ampublicly saying happy birthday
(01:05):
girl.
Thank you, you're welcome.
So I thought that this was agreat way to lead into today's
episode also.
Chrisy (01:13):
Why is that?
Kerry (01:17):
Because you know birthdays, family signs and
symbols, psychic superstitions.
We're going to talk about thewhole gamut.
So what do you think about allthat?
Chrissy, chrissy go, no, youdon't really want me to go.
Chrissy's amped up.
She is excited for this episode.
Chrisy (01:36):
I'm trying to bring it down a little bit.
It's a hard topic for me in thefact that I don't want to Well,
I try to say I don't want tocome off badly, and yet I do
constantly.
You would say, well, if youdon't want to come off badly,
wouldn't you like try to work atnot coming off badly?
(01:58):
I guess what I'm trying to dois tell you don't be offended by
what I'm about to say.
It's your problem, not mine.
There you go.
Kerry (02:09):
I'm not going to change how I am.
This is our safe space.
Chrissy, you are allowed to saywhat you want.
We have big, broad shouldersand this is our safe space, so
please do it is okay.
Actually, Chrissy's wordsbefore we started this was I'm
definitely going to hell.
Chrisy (02:20):
Yes, or at least make some people and my intention is
not to make anybody feel bad.
This is a topic which I thinkdoes separate people a lot.
Yeah, because I think people dohave like definite strong
feelings about this one way orthe other.
Kerry (02:36):
Right, exactly, yeah, and this is one where you and I are
kind of polar opposites on ourbeliefs of ghosts or psychics,
or signs and symbols.
Chrisy (02:47):
I do, kind of I've had personal experience with
something that's not been ofthis earth, right In my opinion,
yeah, but the psychic thingmaybe, because it's not
completely firsthand when you,when you experience something
weird where it doesn't seem likeit's right, like maybe you're
you feel like there's anotherpresence somewhere near you.
Yes, it's, it's you and thatfeeling that you're getting.
(03:10):
But now when you bring in thepsychic, yeah, it's somebody
who's trying to sort oftranslate from one world to the
next.
And I don't, I do, I'm going tocome right out, I don't.
I don't believe in itpersonally.
It's not what I believe in.
Kerry (03:26):
I definitely feel like there is more than what is
physically here that we can see.
So I do believe.
I do believe in ghost, I dobelieve in we grew up with one.
Well, that that's part of why Idid I, the house that I grew up
in we had a ghost, did he atleast help with?
Chrisy (03:46):
like the mortgage.
Kerry (03:47):
No, and you know that was an squatter.
This is the one thing in ourfamily that we squatter.
This is the one thing in ourfamily that we didn't.
We were not our normal selves,like normally.
Like you know, we don't talkabout things.
We talked about the ghost.
We normalize the ghost in ourhouse Like it was.
(04:08):
It was, it was talked about.
It was like, oh, if we heardsomebody walking upstairs, oh,
that's just the ghost.
And it was only until the lateryears that my sisters and I
kind of named the ghost, which Ithink I'll keep the name
nameless right now.
But yeah, we, it was totallynormalized having a ghost in our
house.
Chrisy (04:25):
Yeah, Everybody was on board with this, pretty much.
Yeah, my father would have toldme to get the hell out of there
.
There's nothing in here, justget out of my ear.
My show is coming back on.
I heard something.
Kerry (04:39):
No, yeah, so it was very normalized and you know there's
a lot of people that don'tbelieve in this, and if you
don't believe me, that's fine,it's OK, I know my truth, ok,
yes, my experiences there aredefinitely very strong and
(05:02):
there's been other times whereI've had experiences where that
things were present or, you know, experience them.
That, yeah, I definitelybelieve in the afterlife and
ghost.
Yes, 100 percent.
So therefore, yes, I do believein psychics.
I do think there's a lot offakes, I do think there's a lot
of people that are rippingpeople off, but I'm 100 percent
(05:22):
believe that there are trulypeople that are gifted that can
translate that world.
Chrisy (05:26):
Wow, go, chrissy, go, I can see it on your face um well,
you know, a few episodes ago II bought my ticket to hell, yes,
and now I'm buying first classto hell with this and I'm going
to say, hey, me, as you know,lousy at religion, yes, get it
(05:47):
wrong a lot.
Unless it's a movie that I'mgetting my information from
generally doesn't translate mybrain real well.
And ten commandments, yeah,that list they give you yes is
that just catholics, or doesother religions have
commandments?
I don't even know.
I'm so sorry, it's not just.
Kerry (06:06):
Catholic.
Well, because it's OldTestament.
It's Old Testament, it'sChristian.
There's a lot of other yeah, soyeah.
Chrisy (06:11):
But if it's Old Testament, are you allowed to
say Christian, because that'sprior to Christ?
I guess that's prior to Christ,right yeah?
Kerry (06:16):
So, yeah, there's a lot Okay yeah, of religion, Religion
.
Chrisy (06:21):
And I just realized.
I was just informed that everyone of those commandments is
assigned a number and it doesn'tdeviate Like I just thought it
was a list, so sometimes theyfall in different order.
I was just apprised of the factthat each one of them is
assigned that number and doesnot change.
It does not change Like all ofa sudden number one's, all of a
sudden number eight.
DJ Nick (06:42):
On the list or something.
Kerry (06:43):
Right so.
Chrisy (06:44):
I was told that the way I feel about this and you're
like, you're such a hypocriteLike you don't even follow.
There's nobody quoting thisquote list of commandments for,
but I seem to recall that andit's.
Kerry (06:56):
I was told it was number one on the list okay thou shall
have no false gods before me yes, and commandment number one top
oh, the list so I always youactually got your ticket to
heaven no, no because
Chrisy (07:13):
I'm about to lose it again, so yeah, and to me
believing that somebody canperform, in my opinion, what
seems to be something onlydesignated for God Okay, to be
able to translate those worlds.
It seems wrong that if you're avery religious person, you
would believe in this type ofthing.
Religious person, you wouldbelieve in this type of thing.
(07:35):
But, as my husband has pointedout, it has been people who are
of very strong faith that seemto really believe in this and
have had experience, and, intheir opinion, a positive
experience, with this type ofthing.
You know, going to a psychic.
Kerry (07:54):
Well, I can say that in my personal experiences, I
mostly have had good experienceswhen I've had encounters with
the afterlife, but I've also hada very negative, bad experience
.
So I do believe that you haveto be very careful on this
(08:16):
subject because just as thereare good ghosts, there's not so
good, there's demonic or not sonice ghost, and so you do have
it's a very fine lines, yeah,but I can see, I can see your
thought where you're going onthis, the commandments thing.
Chrisy (08:32):
Well, now I'm going on the fact that you're going to
this thing.
Kerry (09:01):
You're sitting with this person.
They're trying to do a readingfor you or bring forth people
loved.
That's very popular on TV thatwas holding a Coliseum event.
Okay, but that was it.
I've never gone to onepersonally, or whatever, because
I do think that there's thatvery fine line of you could be
calling the wrong and if theydon't know what they're line of,
you could be calling the wrongand if they don't know what
they're doing, you could becalling the wrong thing.
Stop off at the psychic hut onthe side of the road.
No, in the 24-hour neon sign.
(09:23):
You know psychic.
Call this number.
Chrisy (09:25):
No they all have a sign like that.
I know they do isn't it crazy?
Kerry (09:28):
there's an industry for that, but I very much do believe
that, um, our loved onesespecially are with, and I do
think that they're alwayssending signs and symbols.
For instance, for me there's acouple things that are telltales
, and my husband always doesn'tbelieve in this either, but
lately he's starting to see,like maybe there is something to
(09:49):
this.
The number 57.
The number 57 was somethingthat was kind of my mom.
That was always something thatwas somebody was always sending
that sign to her, and then it'skind of started translating to
me.
And now, especially since mymom has passed, I've definitely
been seeing 57 a lot more, andit could be random things, but
(10:10):
it'll just pop up and it's like,oh, I just feel like that's
mom's way of saying hello to meor helping me know that we're on
the right path.
So it could be somethingtotally.
What was something recent thatthe 57 dropped stopped up on?
Oh, I was when I was bookinghotel reservations for mom's
funeral.
Almost all of the hotelreservations had 57 in them.
(10:31):
I mean it's all.
You mean like 5760112 orwhatever was the reservation
number, and all of thereservations had 57.
They start like that or had a57 in it and that's just random.
Oh, another really good one Ourfriends with the plane.
They fly privately.
So you know, when you flycommercially, you have flight
numbers.
(10:51):
You know so, oh, you're onSouthwest, you know 718 or
whatever flight number.
Well, when they fly privately,you know 718 or whatever flight
number.
Well, when they fly privately,they get what's called a squat
code, so it's basically like thelittle flight number.
So the air traffic controllersknow, almost every time we fly,
57 shows up and they're likethat's so weird, we don't hardly
ever.
In fact, the very first time itwas 5757 showed up on there
(11:12):
because I was really nervous thefirst time we flow with them,
because I was like, oh, this issafe and whatever.
And then that 5757 showed upand I'm like, oh, I'm good,
someone's looking out for us,yeah, okay.
Chrisy (11:23):
I, I'm so the face you're giving me.
Okay, chrissy, go well.
The one thing that really wasfreaking me out was the fact
that you said that not only canyou connect with a soul, that
means something to you.
That is a good soul or spirityou're conjuring in like people,
(11:44):
could it's that's terrifying.
Kerry (11:45):
It is terrifying, so I have to be very careful.
Chrisy (11:47):
Well, what made these people bad like?
Is it charles manson comingthrough?
Or I'm like who, where doestheir background and how did
they sneak in on your time?
I'd almost be angry.
I'd be like, look, I'm payingfor this, I don't have time for
you.
Shh, get out of here.
Mr White-FacedBlood-Dripping-From-Mouth.
(12:11):
I keep seeing that flash fromthe Exorcist.
Hello, there you go.
Anybody remember that crazyface that popped up on the
screen all of a sudden?
I do.
Natalie does.
Natalie does Fingers.
Kerry (12:24):
Fingers will tell you about it.
So, yeah, you've got a lot onyour list over there, chrissy.
Well, but see, I think this isall part of our dysfunction in
our lives.
I mean, like you know, some ofthese, some people, rule their
life by this every decision theymake they'll go to a psychic or
every whatever you know.
Chrisy (12:43):
And yeah, boy you gotta have a lot of lousy people in
your family.
Nobody can give you good advice.
You're digging up.
People have probably been gonefor who knows how long.
They can't even flip andunderstand what your world looks
like.
Now, you know, should I not dothe internet for this?
And then somebody would die,like 50 years ago?
DJ Nick (13:02):
What?
Now?
Chrisy (13:02):
there's an explanation, that's required.
DJ Nick (13:04):
Well, what's the?
Chrisy (13:05):
internet.
Before I can give you advice onthis, I need to give me some
backstory.
So one thing on my list is howis there comfort?
Yeah, maybe you're getting acomfort in the moment that you
feel that this person definitely, and it's somebody who you
loved tremendously, yeah, so inthat moment you're getting
(13:27):
comfort, knowing that you'regetting in some way time again
with them, an extension of time.
Everybody says, if I had it, ifI had five more minutes with
you, I would give this up.
Right, but wouldn't it afterthe fact, wouldn't that reality
of I was with them for thislittle bit of time they came
through, but then it wouldn't itbe like another takeaway, like
(13:49):
you're the loss is there again.
And why would you want to putyourself through that?
Yeah, because it is like it's aloss again.
They're gone.
Kerry (13:59):
I see your point, I do see your point in that, but I
think it just depends on how,and maybe for some people that's
very true that it's like traumaresponse, where then they're
going to go relive that.
But for me it's, it's alwayscomforting.
It's always like when I, whenthese little signs or symbols
(14:20):
show up, like one of the otherones is a dragonfly.
You know, my husband hassomebody that had passed away,
and him and his sister, whenthey see a dragonfly it's to
them a representative of thatperson.
And it's just so odd becausewe've been together at times in
a time of year where dragonfliesare not like in season, and all
of a sudden a dragonfly showsup and it's just comforting,
(14:41):
it's like, oh, that person'shere with us and it's kind of
like it just brings comfort, itbrings, it brings a like a warm,
blanket feeling on you, so andit doesn't cause that recycling,
that loss.
But again, I could see where itdepends on the person.
Chrisy (14:57):
So when you say things like that and you're receiving,
you gain comfort from this.
Yes, it makes me feel and lookeven worse, the fact that I just
totally don't.
I don't get it.
How about actually summoningrandom people that you don't
even know, like, how do youhandle that?
Like you're at a psychiater,you paid for it, and like, uh,
(15:18):
somebody accidentally comes inon the wavelength or what,
however they're, they'reshuffling through you're, you're
.
Kerry (15:25):
That sounds like something you got from one of
your movies oh, I'm sure it isthat whoopee goldberg movie.
Chrisy (15:31):
Well, talk about yeah, really, let's talk about this
just for real, because there'ssome movies that really touch on
this where the this poor guy,he was shot or he was shot right
yeah, he killed, he wasmurdered.
Yeah, we're talking about whichis even harder now because the
gentleman who played the lead.
(15:52):
It was one thing to watch thisand it was a tearjerker as it
was, but now he is a ghost he isdeceased now and everybody
loved the.
You know Patrick Swayze waswonderful and you know, but he
can't go.
Who decided this for him?
You cannot go to the good place.
Because now you got your dopeygirlfriend doesn't see that you
(16:13):
know she's obviously, you know,not able to look out for herself
.
You got to hang around and makeknow she's obviously, you know,
not able to look look out forherself.
Uh, you got, you got to hangaround and make sure she's okay.
And then whoopi goldberg, Idon't know, I really I'm
bothered at the fact she got heroscar for that, because she
really deserved the oscar forthe color purple.
I mean, the oscar thing is likeit, you have to take it with the
(16:34):
grain you do because they justlike totally pass over you for
like legitimate stuff and thenthey just toss it at you because
they're just like.
You know what we just got to dothis, throw you a bone.
Right, people are starting tocatch on that.
We're just full of it.
Kerry (16:46):
But yeah, the random people thing I don't ever think
about because I feel likethere's.
If someone's going to come toyou, there's a purpose.
So I don't.
I've never thought about, but Ialso.
I'm not.
Like I said, I'm not trying toconjure people, I'm just they
come, I know, chrissy chrissy,this is good.
Chrisy (17:03):
This just seems so exhausting because you're
walking around dealing withpeople who are still here
walking around causingdysfunction in our lives,
dysfunction annoying the hellout of you driving too slow
walking, walking too slow.
I remember you said that was athing.
Yeah, slow walkers, you know,being quiet, I had a thing with
quiet people and now you're likeYou're just like doubling up on
(17:27):
your idiot people, the onesthat were gone, and then they
could just be random people whoyou never even had to deal with
in the first place.
Now you got a whole list ofother crappy people.
You know I yeah, I wish we wereon video for this.
I'm like holding my head oh,it's just, I don't know, know, I
(17:52):
don't, I don't understand it.
I don't know how to feel aboutthis.
I am having so much trouble.
You're having a lot, right I?
Kerry (17:59):
see, I've.
Usually I'm the one with aphysical reaction.
Right now, chrissy's totallythe one with the physical
reactions.
Chrisy (18:05):
She's clasping her chest , she's scratching her head and
I just know people and I justfeel horrible because and
believe me, you know me you'renot going to take, you don't
give a crap what I think aboutthis.
I have an opinion on it,obviously, and you have an
experience with it that hashelped you, yeah, so how?
(18:27):
Again, this is why I'm ahorrible person.
How can I take that away fromyou?
You're not Well.
You you're not well.
I hope not.
Oh no, I mean because there'sother ways.
I'd rather totally destroy andannihilate you.
Kerry (18:37):
This is not one of them I mean I'm gonna get said with
words of love if I'm gonna tryand totally humiliate and go at
you.
Chrisy (18:46):
It's not gonna be over your need to feel like you
connected with something that isa loss for you?
Kerry (18:52):
No, no, I'm very strong in my, obviously very strong in
my opinions.
I have grown from our familynot talking about things.
I talk about things.
I don't take other people'sopinions or their.
If they think differently thanme, that's fine, I can respect
it.
I know this is my experience.
Think differently than me,that's fine, I can respect it.
(19:13):
I know this is my experience.
My experiences is accumulationof all the dysfunction in my
life, all the good things thathave happened in my life, all
the good people in my life and,unfortunately, even the bad
people in my life.
So you will not take away fromme by having your opposite
opinion.
So I'm good, we're good.
Well generally.
Chrisy (19:27):
I feel like maybe I take that for granted.
I would hope that most peopleknow me, yeah, and know how I go
to the extreme with a lot ofthe way.
I think I hope you look at meand say, well, that's her
problem, which it is.
And that's more of it has to dowith me than you, so maybe I
don't want to be ignored.
Kerry (19:47):
Well, God, no, To quote somebody.
Chrisy (19:49):
I will not be ignored.
Name the movie Fatal Attraction.
Glenn Close Was his name,daniel, I think.
Anyway, I will not be ignored,but I guess, on the other end of
that being a hypocrite, ignoreme if you're feeling offended so
you can move on and I don't getblamed for how I've made you
(20:10):
feel.
Kerry (20:11):
Yeah, no, I mean, I really do try to be open to
other.
Obviously, I don't want to hurtanyone's feelings.
I don't want to offend people,but at the same time people are
so easily offended that it'slike you know, you can't.
You can't appease everybody.
I'm living my life.
These are my opinions.
I try not to push them on otherpeople, but certainly when
(20:32):
we're having conversations likethis, I will share.
So I guess I am definitely afirm believer in the afterlife
and ghosts.
I do believe in signs andsymbols, yes.
Chrisy (20:42):
So well, let me ask you this, and maybe this would be a
future episode, so we don't haveto touch on it too much.
Yeah, but in talking with this,somehow this comes up in my
mind too.
If you feel like you have anexperience with psychics, what
is your thoughts onreincarnation?
Kerry (20:58):
it's probably against my religion to have this thought
now we're being a little bithypocritical.
Chrisy (21:05):
Okay, but this is why yeah so Ten Commandments doesn't
say thou shall not believe onewith someone else prior to being
this person now.
Kerry (21:15):
But they do say you should not believe in things
that are godlike prior to theone and only I personally feel
like our souls are everlastingand so that you know when they
say you have a soulmate, youknow like I, there's no doubt in
my mind, 100 percent Jim and Iare soulmates.
Like I think we've beenconnected in lives before, I
(21:36):
think we'll be connected inlives after.
Chrisy (21:38):
But doesn't that make a definition for reincarnation?
Your souls did cross paths inanother life.
Kerry (21:45):
Yes, therefore, reincarnation Right.
So yes, but I'm not necessarilythinking that I'm gonna be like
I was, or a tree before, andthen next time I'm gonna be a
frog.
Chrisy (21:56):
You know like, I'm not thinking like that but isn't
that pretty crappy for the frogsand the trees?
DJ Nick (22:01):
out there that they will always be a frog or a tree.
Chrisy (22:06):
They never can like move up, you know, and and our task
is good we not become somethingbetter?
Kerry (22:13):
You know what this is reminding me of, when we talked
about superstitions in ourepisode and you said this is
funny.
You're asking me these rulesand I know the answers, but I've
never.
You know I'm thinking the samething, like okay, wait, what are
the rules of this?
Like I never really gave thisthought.
So there's nothing bad aboutbeing a tree or a frog.
Have you ever been one?
Chrisy (22:31):
No, but think about it.
Kerry (22:39):
Doesn't sound like a good time to me, but maybe there's
some enlightenment there thatI'm not clicking into, you know,
and it also doesn't make sense,as I just said, referencing,
yeah, see.
That rule doesn't work becauseI was just saying that when we
see a dragonfly or a butterflyor whatever that reminds us
that's Now see, that doesn'tmean that person is in there.
That just means that that's arepresentation that we
physically can see.
That's embodied that personDoesn't mean that they're now
eternally a dragonfly.
(23:01):
I'll help you out with this one.
Chrisy (23:02):
Yeah, and don't say I didn't ever give you anything.
Carry your folder.
No, I'm going to say in yousaying that you don't believe
that that person is now adragonfly, right, but what I
think you might be trying to sayand just go with this.
If you're not, is that thatperson who you're thinking of
sent that?
Kerry (23:21):
that's what I'm trying to say.
Oh yeah, right, yeah, yeah,yeah, that's what you're trying
to say I got you I got you, babe.
Chrisy (23:26):
I thought you were gonna do another password I know I
there is no password.
Dragon fly.
Carrie says Password of the dayis dragon fly.
Password of the day is dragonfly.
If Carrie actually sees adragon fly, then that's the
password.
Yeah, you know what Did?
I touch on this in thesuperstition one.
(23:46):
Now you're talking about dragonflies and stuff showing up and
again, I don't know where thiscame from.
And I don't know where thiscame from and I don't remember
anybody ever telling me this Ifa bird shows up in a place where
it shouldn't be, like it'shanging out somewhere you don't
want it, all right, like it'sannoying you and it like decided
to nest on your gutter andyou're afraid when you come out
it's going to attack you.
(24:06):
Okay, and just shows up thereand won't leave.
It brings bad luck.
So I get very freaked out whenI see certain critters in a
place where they don't belongBirds, possum, just all of a
sudden strolling up out ofnowhere.
I freak out.
I'm like, oh my God, it'sbringing something bad,
something wicked.
(24:27):
This way comes.
I'm referencing actuallyliterature, I believe.
Is that not a book One for me?
English literature major.
My husband got upset becausewhen Princess Diana passed away,
we were sitting on the porch atmy parents' house.
DJ Nick (24:44):
We did not know she had passed away because it was
Paris time.
Chrisy (24:47):
Yeah, we were not informed yet this had happened.
Okay, but about the time ithappened, we were sitting on the
porch and we witnessed a birdevent.
A bird event, it was a birdevent and we were like, oh my
gosh, it was a bunch of morningdoves swarming in the sky.
All of a sudden, and it wasjust around that time that she
(25:10):
probably would have passed away,and it was nuts.
We never seen it before orafter.
Yeah, my husband said there area lot of bugs in the air and
they were feeding in that area.
So he's totally not believing.
I don't know that.
I believe that that was a signof what had occurred.
I mean, I understand princessdiana was important to a lot of
(25:30):
people and, yeah, I mean I lovedher, you know, come on uh you
know, right, I'm american.
Why wouldn't I love a britishprincess?
Kerry (25:37):
of course, nick's scooting in here.
DJ Nick (25:39):
I feel like he has something he wants to add so I
think, because they were, thebirds were swarming and they
were feeding, and it was aboutat the same time as when,
probably, princess diana hadgotten to the car accident.
So chrissy always attributesthat to her, which is funny
because you know she doesn'twant to believe in the psychic
but right well, it's the same asthe superstitions, yeah so,
(26:02):
yeah, well, because now see,there's no third party involved
in this.
Chrisy (26:06):
So it's my personal first experience.
There's no other person, theseare creatures occurring and I am
a firsthand witness to this,you having to be there and sit
there and tell me that so-and-sohas now come through or
connected with me and I need toshare with you what they're
trying to tell me.
DJ Nick (26:28):
For you that's an interference, but if you're
experiencing firsthand, I'm withyou on the psychic thing,
because I have a hard timebelieving in that.
Chrisy (26:35):
Yeah.
DJ Nick (26:36):
You lose me on these other things about.
Chrisy (26:38):
He says that and he gets very upset, because I worked
for a museum in the Youngstownarea for a while and I was
totally getting bad vibesworking there.
I was freaked out because Ireally felt like something.
I never saw anything.
I did hear what appeared tosound like footsteps.
I believe coming up steps ofthis museum and I was working
upstairs on the top level and Iwas like, oh good, so, and so's
(26:59):
here.
It was a day when the museumwas kind of empty, it wasn't
open for tours or anything, andI had just gone there I had an
internship there.
I was trying to do and I heardfootsteps clear as a day coming
up the steps and I was like, ohgood, so, and so's coming up,
you know, and it was like thesteps were lasted way longer
than I knew they were and thennobody showed up and I totally
freaked out.
(27:20):
So I went like first, I wentdown to the second level and I
was like everything's dark,nothing here, first level, walk
through this whole place,nothing and then I was an idiot.
I went.
Well, the basement was set upfor more uh stuff, so it wasn't
like you're going into a dark,dank basement, it was actually
somewhere where people would goand look at stuff and nobody
there.
(27:40):
I totally freaked out and I likegrabbed my bag and I like ran.
I ran past the one other partwhere like all the office and
like the director and stuff forthe museum were in there and I
think what was funny to them isthey actually saw me like leave
in a hurry and I get in my car.
I didn't come back, see, sothere's a little, but it was a
feeling that's what Iexperienced and it was firsthand
(28:02):
again yeah this was just me andthis experience.
but, nick, you're crapping allover this, but you did have one
experience that you felt and andit made you sit straight up.
It was in the middle of thenight.
Go ahead and share it at yourexperience.
Dj Nick, he doesn't evenremember.
He's looking at you like whatNick go.
DJ Nick (28:22):
I thought I heard something.
Chrisy (28:24):
No, it was more than that you encountered a sensation
of smell.
Oh yeah, Smells are definitelythere so I.
DJ Nick (28:32):
I smelled what I thought was a perfume my mom
used to wear.
Oh, but see how you and this iswhere I'm actually- smells like
that qualifies so.
But this is where I'm similar tochrissy.
Whereas you say, those thingsgive you comfort, when I did do
that, it doesn't give me comfortbecause my mother was gone,
right, and it just see me.
(28:53):
It just it brought back, Iguess, a feeling of you know
she's not here anymore, right.
So I'm glad that it works foryou and it gives you comfort,
right?
I'm actually closely alignedfor once with my wife a lot of
times.
If I were in that, really, Ithink that's the only time I
ever remember that.
Kerry (29:12):
Yeah, well, I think I can see that because you know, it's
kind of like how, how do yousay you know how, like, when you
eat certain things it's acomfort food, you know.
So it brings oh you, it bringsback memories.
It's invoking a memory, so Icould see where some of those
experiences are evoking a memoryas opposed to helping give you
peace and answers for validationor something is maybe what I'm
(29:35):
trying to think of.
Chrisy (29:37):
It's personal to everybody that's a healthier
point of view would be and noneof us, I'm guilty of this,
everybody's but when thehealthier thing be to come to an
understanding that there's alot of things in this life and
in this world that you're nevergoing to have an answer to.
Kerry (29:52):
Oh, 100%.
I think that's probably why alot of this is where we are
trying to make answers forourselves.
Chrisy (29:57):
Right.
We can't accept the fact thatthere's no answer.
Kerry (29:59):
Right, exactly so.
Chrisy (30:01):
But yeah, this is interesting, I think maybe this
might be something we can cometo later on too.
Kerry (30:06):
Yes, I think so Absolutely, but it was fun to
start diving down this rabbithole.
Yeah, totally dysfunctional.
But what I want to know is whatencounters other people have
had or what their side of thestory is.
Are you on Chrissy's line andNick's line on this?
Are you more like me?
Do you find comfort in it, ordo you believe in it, not
believe in it, or have you hadexperiences?
Chrisy (30:28):
I would love to hear that from all of you, me too,
and I am open to both sides.
Kerry (30:31):
Yeah, absolutely yeah absolutely, and again, we are
not licensed therapists.
This is just our personalopinion on these things, our
feelings on this.
So, yes, as we dive down these,these things that help drive us
in our lives.
So, anyways, it was greatlistening or talking to all of
you guys.
Hope you enjoyed listening tous and we'll see you next week.
Bye.
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