The Dysfunciton of Phobias and Fears is on the list this episode. If you can stand on a mountain ledge but freeze on a glass walkway, this one’s for you. We also scan a Halloween‑flavored list of phobias (arachnophobia, coulrophobia, nyctophobia, and more), laughing at the labels without dismissing the lived reality behind them. Under the humor sits a practical core: fear becomes dysfunctional when it narrows your life.
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SPEAKER_03 (00:07):
Welcome to the Dysfunction Junkies Podcast.
We may not have seen it all, butwe've seen enough.
And now, here are your hosts,Chrissy and Carrie.
SPEAKER_01 (00:20):
Hello, Junkies.
I'm Carrie.
And I'm Chrissy.
Alrighty, it is Chrissy'sfavorite time of year.
SPEAKER_02 (00:28):
One of them.
SPEAKER_01 (00:28):
One of them.
The precursor to them.
SPEAKER_02 (00:31):
Well, yeah.
Although I don't know.
There's all kinds of thingsgoing on that make me a little
anxious about this time of yearat the same time.
I kind of long for those moresimple days of I don't know
what.
You don't know when that is.
Well, before the internet, I'mguessing.
SPEAKER_00 (00:47):
Oh, yeah, this is true.
SPEAKER_02 (00:48):
So, but uh a lot of people our age probably feel
that they miss some part ofthat.
Yeah.
Don't get me wrong, I I lovecertain parts of the internet
very much.
We can talk about that anothertime, but but in general, yes, I
love the idea of this time ofyear.
SPEAKER_01 (01:02):
Yeah, the fall time, but getting into Halloween.
Yeah.
So today we're gonna talk aboutdysfunctional phobias.
Are they dysfunctional?
Are they not dysfunctional?
Is it I don't know.
Do you have any if a phobia?
SPEAKER_03 (01:19):
Let me read a definition of phobia.
Oh, yes.
SPEAKER_01 (01:22):
Nick's yes, chomping at the bit.
Google Nick, please.
We're gonna call you GoogleNick.
SPEAKER_03 (01:25):
A phobia is a persistent and irrational fear
of a specific object, situation,or activity that poses little or
no real danger.
SPEAKER_01 (01:35):
Huh.
That's life.
I was just I was gonna say thesame exact thing.
I have life phobia.
What's the name of that?
It's gotta have a name.
Google that.
Life phobia of life.
SPEAKER_02 (01:45):
Wait, oh Charlie Brown had that.
Oh, yeah.
Remember he had the phobia ofevery what was the episode?
The Christmas episode.
SPEAKER_01 (01:52):
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (01:52):
There's a name for it.
SPEAKER_01 (01:54):
All right.
SPEAKER_02 (01:54):
But I can't remember.
Lucy told him.
SPEAKER_01 (01:56):
We'll have to get to that one.
We'll give Nick a chance toGoogle that shit.
SPEAKER_02 (01:59):
No wonder I love Charlie Brown so much.
SPEAKER_03 (02:03):
Isn't it?
It's Gemini now.
It's not Google anymore.
You know, it's the AI.
SPEAKER_01 (02:07):
Oh, I didn't know that.
SPEAKER_03 (02:08):
It's the AI aspect of Google.
We're so old school now.
unknown (02:12):
Oh gosh.
SPEAKER_03 (02:13):
So the phobia of life itself is known as
apyrophobia.
I hope I'm saying that.
SPEAKER_01 (02:17):
Apyrophobia.
Is that A-P-E-I-R?
SPEAKER_03 (02:21):
A-P-E-E-I-R-O and then phobia.
SPEAKER_02 (02:24):
Phobia.
A-P-E-I-R phobia.
SPEAKER_03 (02:26):
I could be saying that wrong.
No, I bet you you're right.
SPEAKER_02 (02:28):
No, that sounds about right.
I think that's what maybe Lucydid say in that.
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (02:32):
Now Google Intense anxiety and panic attacks when
contemplating life.
So that's a pyrophobia.
That's a symptom of it.
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (02:40):
Is that the same as fear of everything?
SPEAKER_01 (02:44):
I'm sure there's probably another one.
Nick's gotta get those fingersgoing on that phone there.
Try to Google.
We're gonna have a lot ofGoogling right now.
Or what do we call it?
Geminiing.
Geminiing.
We're gonna be Geminiing.
SPEAKER_03 (02:58):
Panophobia is the fear of everything.
SPEAKER_02 (03:00):
Oh, that's the panophobia.
SPEAKER_03 (03:01):
Oh is that the one in the Charlie Brown?
SPEAKER_02 (03:04):
It was the Christmas episode.
Yes, that's what she said.
SPEAKER_03 (03:06):
Panophobia is fear of everything.
SPEAKER_02 (03:08):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (03:08):
So I would say most of your phobias are somewhat
dysfunctional because they'rethey're they are irrational.
SPEAKER_02 (03:14):
I heard the word irrational in things.
SPEAKER_01 (03:16):
So I so I would He's saying that with the most
adoring and loving look in hiseyes as he's looking adoringly.
SPEAKER_03 (03:24):
I just I just adore my wife anyhow, but I have my
phobias too, so I'm not I'm notwith that.
SPEAKER_01 (03:29):
Coffee.
No tomatoes, sauerkraut.
SPEAKER_03 (03:33):
No, I the heights thing.
SPEAKER_01 (03:34):
I'm is that what your fear is?
Yeah, he doesn't like heights.
Chrissy, what's your fear?
Besides of everything, besidespanophobia and apurophobia.
SPEAKER_02 (03:47):
Well, I don't like heights to some extent.
I don't know.
I guess because I generalizejust being freaked out by almost
anything.
So it's it's like really a sortof a downer for me.
Yeah.
I I wouldn't even be able totell you something that would be
impactful.
Because you'd just be like,well, that's typical for you.
SPEAKER_01 (04:05):
So I was trying to, I was thinking about this in my
drive-in as I was looking at thebeautiful fall colors we talked
about last episode.
I was thinking about what is itthat I'm really afraid of?
Now there's things I don't likeand I find uncomfortable to be
around.
So spiders, you know, what didwe say that was arachnophobia?
Oh, yeah.
(04:26):
Yeah.
So although I don't preferspiders and they may make me
squeamish, or I'm like, ugh, youknow, but I can't say that I
have a like a paralyzing fearof.
The only thing I can think ofis, and it's really perplexing,
is in some very situationalthings, I can have a fear of
(04:47):
heights.
But here's the disclaimer on it.
If I am standing on the top of amountain and I've got solid
ground under my feet, I can lookout over that mountain ledge and
be totally fine.
I can stand on the ledge and betotally fine.
So, for instance, we used to gohiking up at Zion National Park
in Utah a lot, and there is thisplace called, oh gosh, I can't
(05:09):
believe I can't remember thename of it.
Anyways, you hike up this onething and it's like 1200 feet
drop-offs on both sides of youand a very narrow trout, or
we're talking like maybe fourfoot wide section that you're
walking on the top in the seatrout.
Totally fine.
Now, if I'm walking on somethingthat has a see-through floor, so
like a graded floor, like ifthere's an emergent tower that's
(05:32):
up in Cuyahoga and it takes youup like so many levels, and
you're looking out over top ofthe trees, but this tower
doesn't have a solid floor, it'sgraded, so you're looking
through it terrified,paralyzing.
I have yet to make it to thetop.
SPEAKER_03 (05:48):
So is it called Angel's Landing?
SPEAKER_01 (05:49):
Yes, Angels Landing, thank you.
Yes, Angels Landing, thank you,yes, thank you, Gemini.
Yes.
So we would go to Angel'sLanding and we would hike that
hike every year, and I could doit.
I've helped people.
In fact, one time I went with myone sister, and she literally
was stuck to the side of tryingto climb it, she couldn't do it,
and we had to help her down.
But I was totally fine on that.
(06:10):
But I can't do that emergenttower over in the Cuyahoga Parks
area because it's got asee-through floor.
So I don't know what that'scalled because it's it's both
heights, but it's situational.
SPEAKER_02 (06:20):
So to be able to say that you have a legitimate
phobia, yeah, you have toactually be in the situation and
experience a hesitation, uh afeeling of anxiety.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (06:34):
And for me, that at that point it's paralyzing.
Like I literally am likeclinging to the side going, I
can't do like I can't move.
SPEAKER_02 (06:44):
So I'm sure I have phobies, but a legitimate having
it, I'd have to put myself intouh an experience to know.
So I've been, I've thought ofthings that I wouldn't like
probably, but I've never myselfto the point where I've actually
been paralyzed by that aspect ofit.
(07:06):
Yeah.
So again, because I isolatemyself so much.
SPEAKER_01 (07:09):
Now, see, recently we had gone canoeing, farm boy
Jim and I and our friends umHeather and Andrew, we went
canoeing, and at this placewhere we were canoeing, they had
one of those aerial courses thatyou could, it's like an obstacle
course, but it's like up in theair and you're on a harness and
you gotta like walk on a log andyou gotta climb over things, but
you're like up in the air andthere's different levels.
(07:30):
And at first it was terrifying,you know.
But then again, once I was ableto get my footing, I was fine.
But the one part that was thehardest was again was when I was
stepping on something I couldsee through.
So it was weird because otherthings, it was like you're
walking on a log 12 feet up andyou're harnessed in.
(07:51):
And yeah, it was difficult and alittle bit challenging, and you
had to trust your stability andyour core and your, you know,
trust that you could get throughit.
But and I was fine, like I wasable to push myself and get
through it and and everything.
But when we got to that onething where I could see through,
that was that was harder to walkon, even though it was a solid,
solid surface as far as youcould walk uninhibited, you
(08:12):
didn't have to step from a plankto step to another plank and
that kind of thing.
So it's weird.
I don't know what that is.
SPEAKER_02 (08:18):
Why is that?
Well, uh, it's not um withoutunderstanding.
I I would think because maybeyour mind just wants to see a
solid surface.
Yeah.
And I know that there's a I'msure some sort of a sensation
you might get, yeah.
Like you're almost walking onair.
Yes.
When you can't, these you know,cool idea of walking on
(08:39):
something that that's therephysically.
Yeah.
But your mind is yeah, itprobably something that your
mind triggers that tells you youmight be in danger.
SPEAKER_01 (08:47):
That's true.
Yes, that's very true.
Well, it's funny because youknow, we love to watch Ninja
Warrior, and you know, Jim and Iare always like talking about
it, and I have these illusionsof grandorp that, oh, someday
I'm gonna be, you know, fitenough and sly enough that I'll
be able to do a Ninja Warriorcourse.
Literally, as I was up on thefirst obstacle of this course
that um Heather and I did, I Idid, I said, okay, whatever
(09:10):
illusions of grandor I had thatI would be able to do a ninja
course.
Oh, clearly I cannot.
Because I can barely make itacross this log and just walk on
it.
Oh jeez.
I uh what did you findsomething?
SPEAKER_03 (09:21):
Oh no, so are you what about see through stairs?
Do those freak you?
SPEAKER_01 (09:25):
Yeah, I don't like if I can't see through if I can
see through it, like forinstance at the Grand Canyon,
they had this thing where youcould walk out and it was a
plexiglass ground.
Yeah, I I don't know.
It's not happening.
SPEAKER_03 (09:36):
Yeah, so it's a combination of bathnoophobia,
which is a fear of stairs ingeneral, and then or
climacophobia, which is the fearof climbing, which is includes
the fear of stairs withoutrisers.
SPEAKER_01 (09:48):
So it's it's not Oh, I know what you're talking about
without yeah.
So I don't know.
Yeah, it's kind of a mixture,it's a a fear of not having
solid ground underneath my feet.
What's that?
It's called keryphobia.
SPEAKER_02 (10:02):
No, there's probably anything.
Well, you know, now that hementioned the thing with the
stairs, yeah.
Like if you're going to tourhomes while they're being in the
process of building it, I dohave a heck of a time.
And I will, if if there was likeno banister or some sort of
railing that I could hold on to,I'm probably not gonna go up and
down the steps.
I have a difficult time.
I wouldn't say it's fear, it'salmost as if there's some maybe
(10:26):
it is, and I don't recognize it,but it's my basic not having
confidence and me being able tomanage, yeah, because there's
something with the visual fieldthere when then there's no back
to those stairs.
SPEAKER_01 (10:39):
Maybe it's just we're old and we just don't want
to get hurt.
We we have a fear of brokenbones.
SPEAKER_02 (10:44):
Well, I do have that.
I've had that for a long time.
Fracturaphobia.
Fracture.
SPEAKER_01 (10:51):
Yes.
Well, you know, and that's verytrue because oh sorry, I didn't
mean to like pound all yourearbuds out by whenever we were
doing some roofing work over thesummer in the barn, I can climb
a ladder, you know.
I I'm okay with that, and I canbe on the roof, but I don't like
the transition of off the ladderonto the roof or onto the roof
onto the ladder.
SPEAKER_04 (11:10):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (11:11):
And I think it's more just because my fear is
that it's gonna slip or I'mgonna slip in that transition.
So it's not a fear of the ladderand it's not a fear of the
heights, it's a fear of gettinghurt by the unstability of, oh,
this is a dangerous transition.
See, now this is what makes nosense with me.
I I could I could go into a penwith six adult lions and nothing
(11:37):
to protect myself but my ownwits and ability, and I have no
fear of that, but I can't gofrom a ladder rooftop to a
ladder without having toovercome some serious anxiety
and fear.
I that's dysfunctional.
SPEAKER_02 (11:52):
I guess.
I don't know.
I what's the name of that thing?
Now, because again, I watchthese videos.
It's called Is it Parkour?
Oh, yeah, parkour.
Uh-huh.
Okay.
Yeah.
So my one of my joys.
That's the Ninja Warrior thing,kind of, yes.
Oh, okay.
So they have these amateursdoing parkour.
And what what really adds to myamusement is if you have like a
(12:13):
ridiculous one where the peopleare generally getting really
hurt.
Yes.
I enjoy that.
You enjoy watching it.
I enjoy watching it.
You ain't gonna do it.
Oh no.
Jump.
You're like if I jump off thefirst step to the main level.
Uh no, that's dangerous.
Again, something could break onme.
We're not young anymore.
But the then there's usuallysomebody in the background going
(12:34):
yelling, parkour.
Sometimes they do it when dogsare like running insane or cats,
you know.
But I do kind of enjoy it.
Like they'll like uh jump fromone uh building to the next and
then their head bounces off theshed, and or they well, if
they're making the videos, whyam I feeling bad?
I'm gonna watch it.
Yeah, you want to hurt yourself?
(12:56):
I'm on board.
I'm gonna sit here and watch.
Big fan of the old jackass uh TVshow.
Yeah, you know, you want to dohorrible things to yourself.
I'm not gonna do it, but I'llsit back and watch gladly.
And obviously, I'm not the onlyone, or they wouldn't keep
making these damn videos.
This is true.
And I'm sure them jackass guys,outside of the fact that they
can't walk or do simple tasksanymore, they they did cash a
(13:20):
few checks from that.
SPEAKER_01 (13:21):
Yeah, so they did, but yeah, I love it.
Okay, here's another one then.
Talk about phobias that showFear Factor.
That was all about facing yourphobias, where they would put
people in a box and then likerelease like a thousand spiders
on them.
SPEAKER_02 (13:37):
Yeah, I'm not very familiar with the actual show.
I know what it is.
Really?
Yeah, and I know Joe Rogan wasopposed to that back then.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Uh, I'm only familiar with theDave Chappelle one.
He did a Chappelle show episodeof that, which is wonderful.
Yeah, because he was obviouslyhad an issue with crack, and so
(13:59):
he was on Fear Factor, and hehad no fear because he basically
nothing bothered him because hewas having had a little problem
with uh substances, yeah.
Uh mainly crack.
The character, nothing.
The character, yes, not theshow.
Yeah, yeah.
It was uh what he had a name forthat character.
SPEAKER_03 (14:16):
Tyrone Bigums, right?
SPEAKER_01 (14:18):
I don't know.
I'm not familiar with that.
Oh my gosh.
I'm gonna pull up for you later.
SPEAKER_02 (14:22):
Okay, it's awesome.
But yeah, no, fear factor isdefinitely, and I'm surprised I
didn't watch that because itwould fall in line sort of with
that type of people puttingthemselves in horrible
situations.
SPEAKER_01 (14:31):
Yeah, 100%.
Yeah.
Heights, and they would you knowput them in a box with you know
snakes or they'd have to eat atarantula or yeah, oh god.
I know.
SPEAKER_02 (14:41):
Well, that's see now that's that takes it to a
different.
I know it's sort of in the samefamily, but there's like
different, uh, different place.
Uh yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (14:49):
Yeah.
So Chrissy found a big list ofthings.
So what do you got on that listover there?
What do we got?
Gosh, all these phobias.
It's called 18 Halloween themephobias you might have was the
list.
Yeah, and I think this was onABC something.
SPEAKER_02 (15:02):
Yeah, let's see.
ABC7ny.com.
SPEAKER_03 (15:06):
It's a New York affiliate of ABC.
SPEAKER_02 (15:09):
Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They they had published thislist.
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (15:12):
What's on the list?
So uh what was the premise ofthe post?
SPEAKER_02 (15:16):
Just all these phobias.
Um, some of them a lot of ushave heard of.
The first one specifically,because there was a movie,
arachnophobia, the fear ofspiders.
We get it.
Yes.
Astrophobia.
That's uh should I we should wedo a quick quiz?
Anyone with their Latin?
I don't know.
Are these based in Latin?
SPEAKER_01 (15:33):
Astro.
Is that a fear of astronomy?
Fear of space, fear of stars.
SPEAKER_02 (15:36):
It it has something to do with like uh natural
occurrences type of thing.
Astra is the fear of thunder andlightning.
SPEAKER_01 (15:44):
Oh so a lot of dogs have astrophobia.
Absolutely.
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (15:51):
This one, you started laughing when we were
talking about this, and now I'mgonna laugh.
SPEAKER_00 (15:55):
I don't even think I'm gonna say is it bogey
phobia?
SPEAKER_02 (16:00):
Bogey phobia.
SPEAKER_00 (16:01):
Bogey phobia.
Bogey phobia is the fear of theboogeyman.
SPEAKER_02 (16:08):
How is this a really?
I mean, if if you're over theage of like seven, is this a
thing?
But hey, okay, we got a name forit.
That's wonderful.
Kira.
Oh boy, here we go.
Kiroto Kira.
See if you can best pronouncebetter.
SPEAKER_01 (16:28):
Cairo Chiropatop Cairo Chiropotopia.
It's not easy.
It's not, but I think it's Cairobecause it's C-H-I-R-O.
Give it to Mr.
Valedictorian everything.
You remember all your uhChiropotobia.
Or is the P in the T is the Psilent before is it Chyrotobia
in that P before the T issilent?
SPEAKER_03 (16:48):
I would say it's Cyroptophobia.
SPEAKER_01 (16:50):
Oh, well, there we go.
Look at how that just rolledright off.
Exactly.
Fear of bats.
SPEAKER_02 (16:55):
Fear of bats.
Yeah.
I have a fear of DJ Nick, if hecan say that word.
SPEAKER_01 (17:00):
I have an employee of mine that has a huge fear of
bats.
We work at a church, andobviously, sometimes we have
bats in our belfry.
And uh, Batman reference.
Bats and the belfry sometimescome down into the church, and
uh he pretty much will come andget me and my finance manager,
and we will go wrangle the bat,no problem.
(17:22):
But he mm-mm, no.
SPEAKER_02 (17:24):
I try not to be so hardcore on the bats.
Not that I haven't been in asituation where you're out in
the evening and you see them andyou start to worry because they
are really a great help uh inbug uh control and and things
like that.
SPEAKER_01 (17:39):
No, I have no problem with bats.
I enjoy bats, I like watchingbats.
I have no problem being aroundthem, seeing them.
When you go to the zoo and yousee of course, they don't really
call them bats.
They go the one they're calledflying foxes, and they're like
they're called flying foxes,they're like this big.
I'm like referencing like a footlong.
They but they're a bat family,but they're huge.
(18:00):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (18:01):
I saw a really good video on the internet again.
I remember this one.
Sorry.
It was uh a video of batshanging upside down, but what
they did was they flipped thecamera so it looked like the
bats were standing up.
And then they had like thishorrible, like really cool, like
nine-inch nails type musicplaying and it looked like they
were like sort of like gothdancing.
(18:22):
I found it.
SPEAKER_01 (18:23):
What's interesting about bats is when they hang
upside down, when they have togo to the bathroom, they flip
themselves over that way.
They don't pee or poop onthemselves.
They just go on your head.
SPEAKER_02 (18:32):
Well, I mean if you're standing.
You're standing underneath them,but yeah.
Well, geez, nobody can call themdumb.
That's why I know it's reallycool though.
So this one's a fun one.
What's one?
Chlorophobia.
Chlorophobia.
How do you spell that?
Uh here, it's the that oh, okay.
SPEAKER_01 (18:52):
C-O-U-L R-O phobia.
SPEAKER_03 (18:56):
Yeah, sounds right to me.
SPEAKER_01 (18:57):
Yeah?
Does that sound does it DJ?
SPEAKER_03 (18:59):
I'm not the expert one.
SPEAKER_01 (19:01):
She seemed uh so this is a common one.
This is probably right up therewith arachnophobia.
Do you think it's common though?
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (19:08):
Well, because they've made some movies I
haven't seen.
It's a fear of clowns.
Clowns.
Clowns.
Clowns.
SPEAKER_01 (19:14):
Yeah, I don't mind I don't mind clowns.
We've talked about that becauseboth of our parents were clowns.
I don't like the creepy crownclowns though.
Like the creepy ones, no.
SPEAKER_02 (19:25):
No, and I think that people have used the clown
persona in such a negative waythat it's sort of yeah.
I mean, it for a long time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's it's crazy.
Yeah.
The clown thing I can get.
Yeah, you can't go out and I'msurprised.
Do kids still get excited ifthey see a clown or are they
just totally freaked out?
SPEAKER_01 (19:44):
I don't know.
I feel like they probably getfreaked out.
It's kind of I think it goesright up there with their first
time seeing Santa Claus, howsome of them freak out, or the
Easter bunny, and you know,yeah.
I think clowns are kind of athing of the past because, like
you said, they've made them sothere's a negative now.
It's no longer a fun, cutething, it's a scary one.
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (20:04):
When you got the movie like it.
SPEAKER_01 (20:06):
Right.
Is that the one with the redballoon?
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Yeah, that's creasy.
SPEAKER_03 (20:10):
And the Joker.
I mean, you're really oh yeah,you're right.
Yeah, it's not, you know, theythese newer Batman movies that
have the Joker characters, theJoker's no longer this cartoony
thing, like even in the JackNicholson version.
SPEAKER_00 (20:26):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (20:26):
While he was nasty, was it still was a little it's
Jack.
SPEAKER_00 (20:31):
It's painted faces like that, yeah.
So yeah.
What else you got on there?
Hemophobia.
SPEAKER_01 (20:37):
That's a fear of blood.
SPEAKER_00 (20:38):
Right.
Yes.
Because of the hemaf is the uhroot word.
And seem some of these when wewere going through them, you
seem to know pretty good.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (20:46):
Lupophobia.
SPEAKER_01 (20:47):
That's a fear of wolves, or yeah, fear of wolves.
And this is because these onesare easy to dissect because they
have the Latin word in front,which if you do any kind of
medical terminology or thingslike that, you know, these are
common root words for the soit's easy to pick out.
SPEAKER_02 (21:01):
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (21:02):
Werewolves.
Wait a minute.
Okay, I don't know that one.
SPEAKER_02 (21:04):
No, no, no.
That's part of this last one wejust talked about.
SPEAKER_00 (21:07):
Oh, the lupophobia is werewolves.
SPEAKER_02 (21:11):
Genetic standpoint.
Is there a real thing called awerewolf?
unknown (21:18):
I don't know.
SPEAKER_02 (21:19):
What does the hell does that mean?
It's a wolf.
Wolf.
Yeah.
Werewolf?
Werewolf is Michael Jackson fromthe uh thriller video.
Is that just a Halloween thing?
SPEAKER_01 (21:30):
Yeah, you're mixing mythology and realology.
What's real and what's mythical.
SPEAKER_03 (21:36):
So a werewolf is not real.
A werewolf is not sort ofliterary term.
It's a mythology.
SPEAKER_01 (21:43):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (21:43):
It's right up there with the uh It's when a person
transforms into a wolf.
SPEAKER_01 (21:48):
Right.
It's kind of like a vampire whena person, you know, person turns
into a bat.
SPEAKER_02 (21:53):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (21:53):
Well, I don't know why it made this list like that.
SPEAKER_01 (21:55):
They should have said wolves.
They just they just paired themtogether.
SPEAKER_03 (21:59):
It's old English.
Werewolf is man and yes.
SPEAKER_02 (22:04):
Okay.
Okay.
Old English.
Okay.
Thank you, old English.
Uh this one's a sort of an easyone.
If you but if I say it, youprobably wouldn't know what it
is.
But then when I tell you what itis, it's like, oh, well, that's
definite.
Mascophobia.
SPEAKER_01 (22:21):
Mascophobia.
This is kind of like boogiephobia.
SPEAKER_00 (22:27):
You have a fear of boogeyman?
Mascophobia?
You have a fear of masks.
SPEAKER_02 (22:32):
Ma wh why?
Are you afraid of the mask orthe person under the mask?
I mean, I don't understand whatthe mask is gonna do to you.
SPEAKER_01 (22:39):
I think this goes into the Jason thing.
You know, that was that what ismovie Jason where he wears the
hockey mask?
Yeah, so I think uh like theMike Myers sort of Yeah, I think
you're just pairing, you know,bad things happen to people with
people when they're masks.
SPEAKER_02 (22:54):
So this I probably have to some extent a phobia of,
but I think a lot of people donecrophobia.
Oh, fear of the dead?
Yeah, dead things.
Yeah.
Just dead things.
Dead things.
My plant died.
Which one?
No, we're kidding.
No, I'm just saying in general,if your plant died, are you
terrified?
Because your plant's not dead,you have to throw it out the
window.
Get the hell out of here.
(23:15):
I can't have dead things in thehouse.
Uh pretty much everything in myfridge is uh I can't go near it.
Is your fridge becoming a petridish?
Yeah.
Oh, because of the creamer.
The creamer I thought I wassupposed to make and then forgot
what it was.
SPEAKER_03 (23:32):
Cottage cheese?
What is that?
SPEAKER_02 (23:34):
That's terrifying.
A fear of coffee creamer.
Is that on this list?
You guys are making you guys.
Nick Ny no.
Okay.
Nycto Nick.
You have a fear of nick?
SPEAKER_01 (23:48):
Nyctophobia?
SPEAKER_04 (23:49):
I don't know that is okay.
SPEAKER_01 (23:53):
Oh yeah, Nyctophobia.
Sorry, Nick.
Sorry.
It's a fear of the dark.
Fear of the dark.
You don't think that NYC wouldbe night.
No, I think it's nyctophobia.
Yeah.
Fear of the dark.
SPEAKER_02 (24:03):
What is that Latin stuff going on there?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (24:06):
Yeah.
Placophobia.
Ooh, what's that one?
Fear of tombstones.
Oh, that's weird.
Why would you be afraid of atombstone?
It's just a rock.
SPEAKER_02 (24:16):
I have a great story, real quick.
Oh god, go for it.
For a t a stone, a cemetery,cemetery stone, gravestone.
SPEAKER_01 (24:23):
Okay, so a placophobia story?
SPEAKER_02 (24:25):
Uh oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So this is just a handed downstory.
Don't know to what level it'strue, but deals with a
grandmother and agreat-grandmother.
SPEAKER_00 (24:36):
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (24:37):
My understanding is the story went that my
grandmother a long time ago wentdown in her basement and her
mother-in-law lived with them atthe time, so that would be my
great-grandmother.
SPEAKER_04 (24:46):
Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02 (24:47):
So my grandmother went down in the basement, I
guess, to do laundry.
And when she went down there,there was a child's gravestone
sitting in the basement.
unknown (24:54):
What?
SPEAKER_02 (24:54):
And totally freaked out.
And the story goes, and don'tknow to what level this is true,
but it's just one of thoseinsane stories.
That the great-grandmotherdragged it, it fell off its uh
pedestal in the cemetery.
She's walking through thecemetery or something.
And she says, Well, that's awaste of a good stone.
And she dragged it home becauseshe was gonna smash grapes with
it to make wine.
SPEAKER_01 (25:15):
What she stole somebody's gravestone because it
broke to make wine.
Yeah.
Chrissy answers it like it'saccommodate.
Like yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (25:26):
Well, well, remember, this is over a hundred
years ago, probably.
Cause yeah, it well, not maybenot that long ago, 80 or 90
years ago, probably.
I don't know.
My grandmother would be how oldnow?
Pretty darn old, 112 orsomething like that.
So the great grandmother wouldbe really old.
Yeah.
That was now again.
I have no proof.
I have no photographic evidenceof this.
(25:47):
I have no record, uh legitimatenotarized record of this.
It just was a story that wasalways told.
SPEAKER_01 (25:54):
Or was that just the cover-up story?
Because there was a body in thebasement and they put the
tombstone on it in the basement.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_02 (26:03):
I don't know, but uh we forgot the um Faz Phasm
Phasmophobia?
SPEAKER_01 (26:16):
Yeah, yeah, phasmophobia.
Which is uh Fear of the Ghost.
SPEAKER_02 (26:20):
Ghosts, which believe it or not, I'm guessing
pretty much everybody has that.
SPEAKER_01 (26:24):
Unless you're just totally Well, we've touched a
little bit on the ghost of mythings.
I mean, I grew up with a ghostin the house, so I was never
really afraid of ghosts.
Like, I'm not afraid of ghostsin general.
I just have a healthy respectfor ghosts, and I have had
negative experience with ghosts,but that didn't generalize to
fear of all ghosts.
What?
SPEAKER_00 (26:47):
Chrissy's look.
SPEAKER_02 (26:49):
I don't have a fear of all ghosts.
I don't have a fear of allghosts.
Oh, depending on their ethnicbackground or depending on their
spiritual background.
SPEAKER_01 (27:01):
Oh, if they are a good ghost or a bad ghost.
SPEAKER_00 (27:04):
How did you die?
SPEAKER_01 (27:05):
And if it was horrific, I am totally against
you.
I'm just saying, like, I don'thave a fear of ghosts.
I I have a respect for ghosts.
I don't have a fear of ghosts,but I think that some ghosts are
good and some ghosts are bad,and I've experienced
interactions both ways.
SPEAKER_02 (27:20):
And when you say you have a respect for ghosts, and
they say, so in their world, nomeans no.
SPEAKER_01 (27:29):
Yes, and in my world, no means no too.
Good.
I'm glad it crosses that.
Yes, it's a good thing.
No means no.
No means no.
SPEAKER_02 (27:38):
And Carrie has a respect for ghosts, so when they
say no, no.
Yeah.
Time to stop.
Okay.
Wonderful.
Now, this is a tough one, and Idon't know.
Carrie has this.
Probably my husband to someextent back in the day when I
used to be crazy.
Uh well, still am, but SamHainophobia.
This is a tough one, too.
Can I say it?
(27:58):
You would wonder why it would beso complicated.
SPEAKER_01 (28:00):
Oh, the first.
Oh, yeah.
I was looking at the third one.
I'm like, that's not what youjust said.
Oh, yeah.
Sam Hainophobia.
Sam Hainophobia.
Yes, fear of Halloween.
I don't have a fear.
This goes along with the ghosts.
I don't have a fear ofHalloween.
It's just not my favorite.
Right.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (28:16):
So it's uh it's just a preference more than a fear.
SPEAKER_01 (28:18):
It's a preference more than a fear.
I don't get I don't getparalyzed by fear.
No.
SPEAKER_02 (28:22):
People really get paralyzed by some of this stuff.
I can understand how some ofthis would be fear.
Like it's spider.
I don't enjoy spider.
It freaks me out, but I wouldn'tsay I get paralyzed.
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (28:31):
I wouldn't say I don't have an arachnophobia.
I don't have a fear of spidersin that it causes a physical
reaction of uncomfortableness oranxiety or paralyzing nothing
like that.
I just would prefer that they'renot in my space.
Right, right.
And God, I don't want them onme.
Oh gosh, no.
SPEAKER_02 (28:49):
So this one, why is this one so complicated, also?
I'm gonna give this to DJ saythis one.
This one's crazy.
The last one?
Second to last one.
Even niquet.
And it seems so complicated forsuch a simple idea.
Yeah.
I don't understand why they havethese phobias for things that
sanguivorophobia.
SPEAKER_03 (29:12):
Sanguhorophobia.
SPEAKER_01 (29:14):
I don't know.
What is it?
SPEAKER_03 (29:15):
She don't have that.
She loves them.
SPEAKER_01 (29:17):
Who?
SPEAKER_03 (29:17):
You.
SPEAKER_01 (29:18):
Me?
Yeah.
unknown (29:19):
Vampires.
SPEAKER_01 (29:20):
Oh, fear vampires.
SPEAKER_02 (29:22):
See, that's right up there with uh werewolves.
I only liked one vampire.
It wasn't a vampire.
It's a guy who played a vampire.
Is that the one with FranklinJoe?
Oh no, that's not who I wasthinking.
Nobody uh who's listening tothis knows who the hell I'm
talking about.
I need that list, sir.
Who's the last one?
When you told me this one whenwe were going through it, I
thought you meant like SeleneDion.
SPEAKER_00 (29:44):
Oh yeah.
The Selenophobia.
Which again is Is that the fearof the moon?
SPEAKER_02 (29:50):
Yeah.
Jeez, oh man.
What do you how do you live?
It's out there.
It's out there all the time.
Every day, all the time.
Yeah.
So what What?
Okay.
Jeez, oh man.
I think people made these liststo make people even more crazy
than they already are.
This one's an easy one.
Skelophobia.
Skeletons?
Yeah, that's a good one.
(30:10):
Teraphobia.
SPEAKER_01 (30:11):
Terra.
That sounds like ground or earthor something.
SPEAKER_02 (30:15):
That sounds logical, but that's not what it is.
SPEAKER_01 (30:18):
Is it pottery?
The fear of pottery.
SPEAKER_04 (30:24):
That's what I was thinking.
I can't watch that scene inghost.
SPEAKER_02 (30:27):
It freaks me out.
What the ghost?
No, the pottery.
Me too, man.
I can't stand the pottery.
All right.
SPEAKER_04 (30:45):
What is it?
SPEAKER_02 (30:47):
It's the fear of monsters.
Sorry.
Oh, Chris, they are too much.
Okay, and then let's not forget.
SPEAKER_03 (31:03):
I was I was afraid of the righteous brothers during
that scene.
SPEAKER_02 (31:06):
The song.
Yeah, Unchained Melody.
What's that phobia?
This the Unchained Melodyphobia.
Wikiphobia.
SPEAKER_00 (31:14):
Wikiphobia.
Afraid of Wikipedia.
SPEAKER_02 (31:19):
More and more people should be afraid of this.
No, but just remember theHalloween type theme and all the
witches.
I was gonna say which whichgroup has not been represented
yet.
Yes.
You covered them all.
Okay.
So yeah, there's that was a goodone.
You had uh some information downthere below.
I don't know if that wasanything to reference.
SPEAKER_01 (31:39):
Let's see, the formation of specific phobias is
still not well understood.
There oh, phobias are twice ascommon in women.
And then it also said while thefear of harmless or even
completely fictional things mayseem silly.
Oh, so that's our werewolves andwitches and monsters.
Right.
Specific phobias can becomedisabling if feared things
(32:00):
cannot be avoided or iftreatment is not pursued.
SPEAKER_02 (32:03):
Okay, I believe that treatment's always a good thing,
always, especially for somethingthat maybe it inhibits your
ability to live life to thefullest.
I don't appreciate thatstatement unless it's backed
with plenty of data that womensuffer from it more than men.
I think that's a loadedstatement that a man Yeah,
there's a lot.
SPEAKER_01 (32:23):
There's a lot could be interpreted.
That yeah.
If it's true, I can I can seewhy.
If it's not true, yeah, there'sa lot on that one.
SPEAKER_02 (32:30):
I don't know that I buy that.
I'm gonna need to need the data.
SPEAKER_01 (32:33):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (32:34):
So I have a fear of roller coasters.
Oh.
Which is called Veloxrotophobia.
Velox rotophop.
Which is not a Halloween theme,but that's a phobia.
Or they call it more informallycoaster phobia.
SPEAKER_02 (32:46):
Coaster phobia.
But let me ask you this, becauseyou have a fear of that.
I know you don't like it.
You don't want to be on a rollercoaster.
You don't appreciate the heightor the jarring, back breaking,
fun.
SPEAKER_03 (32:57):
It doesn't debilitate.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (32:58):
So just looking at a roller coaster, you're okay.
SPEAKER_03 (33:01):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (33:02):
You're not looking at it going, oh my god, I'm
having anxiety.
I can't, I can't even see it.
Oh, it's not maybe.
SPEAKER_03 (33:09):
I guess I'm I'm afraid of coming off the tracks
and just you know dying.
SPEAKER_01 (33:13):
Okay, that's just a fear of dying.
Yeah, well, it's true.
SPEAKER_03 (33:16):
It's the same thing.
I'm not a good flyer, and it'snot I'm not I'm not afraid of
flying.
I'm afraid of crashing.
Yeah, right, exactly.
SPEAKER_01 (33:22):
Okay, so there's probably a name, there's
probably some kind of name forthat kind of fear.
Like a fear of a possibleoutcome.
Of dramatic or unlikable orunreasonable or unrealistic
causes of death.
Okay, you know what?
I can tell you probably what myone biggest fear is.
And talking about cause of deathand things like that.
(33:44):
I have a fear that I will be ina car that goes off of a bridge
and into water and I'll be stuckin the car.
SPEAKER_02 (33:52):
Now, that's that's one I would have to say I share.
SPEAKER_01 (33:55):
Yeah, and now this one to the point of that I don't
like to be like if I have to goover a bridge with water, I will
go to the left lane because Iwant more time.
Like, I don't want somebody to atruck to come by and bop me and
push me into the off the road.
I want to be on the left sidebecause usually on the left you
got the other lanes, you know,so you're less likely to go over
(34:18):
the bridge.
SPEAKER_02 (34:18):
You'd rather just be crushed up against concrete.
Yeah, me too.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (34:22):
And I also, okay, this isn't a I will, if it's a
really big bridge, I will oftencrack my window before going
over the bridge or go over thebridge with my finger on the
button of the windshield of thewindow.
Because if my car starts goingover, that window's going down.
Because I will worry that I I'mconfident in my skills that I
(34:43):
could get out of the car andswim.
It's not that, but I don't, I'mnot confident that I would be
able to break the window if itwent into the water.
So I had that will probably sayis probably my closest, biggest
fear.
SPEAKER_02 (34:54):
That's a good recommendation.
I like that.
When you go over a bridge wherethere's water, yeah, I don't
care if it's 20 below.
Yeah.
You roll that window down.
Oh, that window, yeah.
It's at least everybody in thecar is going, what the hell's
wrong with you?
I'm freezing back here.
It's at least getting cracked.
SPEAKER_01 (35:10):
So that way it's mine's coming all the way down.
SPEAKER_02 (35:13):
Crack.
I'm not gonna be able to forcethat thing down.
I want it all the way down so Ican squeeze my ass right out
that window.
SPEAKER_01 (35:19):
Now, when we were talking about my fear about my
feet being on the ground, thatalso translates to cars and
bridges.
Because if we if I go over abridge that's solid, I'm okay.
But if it's a bridge that youcan see through and you can see
the water below and you're inthe car, same fear, same fear.
SPEAKER_02 (35:38):
No, I'm bridges are generally no, but if I can see
through it, forget it.
SPEAKER_01 (35:42):
Even if I'm in a car.
I got it.
Anyways, well, that was a lot.
That was a lot we meant long.
SPEAKER_02 (35:47):
We covered the phobia thing, is like really
that's dysfunctional.
That's that's dysfunctional.
Hey, what?
New line.
We need to say that at the endof every show.
SPEAKER_01 (35:56):
That's dysfunctional.
SPEAKER_02 (35:57):
That's dysfunctional.
That's dysfunctional.
Remember how they used to saythat's incredible?
No, that's dysfunctional.
SPEAKER_01 (36:05):
There we go.
Our new tag that could be forseason two.
We can do that in all season twobecause you know what?
We're ending our first year now.
SPEAKER_02 (36:11):
I can't believe it.
SPEAKER_01 (36:12):
I know it can't.
So, hey, before we wrap this up,just a few things we do want to
mention.
We are in the month of October.
The month of October, JunkiesCare is dedicated to supporting
the United Way of Wayne andHolmes County in Worcester,
Ohio.
And we are going to be at the 5KHeart and Ghoul event, spooky
(36:35):
sprint.
And that is going to be onOctober 25th at 9 a.m.
in the historic downtown area ofWorcester.
Chrissy and I will be there.
We're sponsors of the event, sowe're going to be there.
Please come out if you want to,or if you're close by, we'd love
to meet you.
But uh yeah, we're justsupporting uh United Way and all
the wonderful things that theydo to help the community this
month.
SPEAKER_02 (36:54):
Absolutely.
We encourage you to also supportthe United Way.
SPEAKER_01 (36:58):
Absolutely.
So in the meantime, check us outon our Facebook page.
We want to know what fears youhave.
And if you know what the name ofit is, the Latin name or what
the regular day, I don't know,what do you call it?
Technical technical name for it.
Let us know because otherwisewe'll be Googling it.
Yes.
We'll be no, not Googling it,Geminiing it.
So I think I'm still gonna sayGoogle, sorry.
(37:20):
So all right, everybody, have ahappy uh week this week, and
we'll see you next time.
Bye-bye.
Welcome to the Dysfunction Junkies Podcast.
We may not have seen it all, butwe've seen enough.
And now, here are your hosts,Chrissy and Carrie.
SPEAKER_01 (00:20):
Hello, Junkies.
I'm Carrie.
And I'm Chrissy.
Alrighty, it is Chrissy'sfavorite time of year.
SPEAKER_02 (00:28):
One of them.
SPEAKER_01 (00:28):
One of them.
The precursor to them.
SPEAKER_02 (00:31):
Well, yeah.
Although I don't know.
There's all kinds of thingsgoing on that make me a little
anxious about this time of yearat the same time.
I kind of long for those moresimple days of I don't know
what.
You don't know when that is.
Well, before the internet, I'mguessing.
SPEAKER_00 (00:47):
Oh, yeah, this is true.
SPEAKER_02 (00:48):
So, but uh a lot of people our age probably feel
that they miss some part ofthat.
Yeah.
Don't get me wrong, I I lovecertain parts of the internet
very much.
We can talk about that anothertime, but but in general, yes, I
love the idea of this time ofyear.
SPEAKER_01 (01:02):
Yeah, the fall time, but getting into Halloween.
Yeah.
So today we're gonna talk aboutdysfunctional phobias.
Are they dysfunctional?
Are they not dysfunctional?
Is it I don't know.
Do you have any if a phobia?
SPEAKER_03 (01:19):
Let me read a definition of phobia.
Oh, yes.
SPEAKER_01 (01:22):
Nick's yes, chomping at the bit.
Google Nick, please.
We're gonna call you GoogleNick.
SPEAKER_03 (01:25):
A phobia is a persistent and irrational fear
of a specific object, situation,or activity that poses little or
no real danger.
SPEAKER_01 (01:35):
Huh.
That's life.
I was just I was gonna say thesame exact thing.
I have life phobia.
What's the name of that?
It's gotta have a name.
Google that.
Life phobia of life.
SPEAKER_02 (01:45):
Wait, oh Charlie Brown had that.
Oh, yeah.
Remember he had the phobia ofevery what was the episode?
The Christmas episode.
SPEAKER_01 (01:52):
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (01:52):
There's a name for it.
SPEAKER_01 (01:54):
All right.
SPEAKER_02 (01:54):
But I can't remember.
Lucy told him.
SPEAKER_01 (01:56):
We'll have to get to that one.
We'll give Nick a chance toGoogle that shit.
SPEAKER_02 (01:59):
No wonder I love Charlie Brown so much.
SPEAKER_03 (02:03):
Isn't it?
It's Gemini now.
It's not Google anymore.
You know, it's the AI.
SPEAKER_01 (02:07):
Oh, I didn't know that.
SPEAKER_03 (02:08):
It's the AI aspect of Google.
We're so old school now.
unknown (02:12):
Oh gosh.
SPEAKER_03 (02:13):
So the phobia of life itself is known as
apyrophobia.
I hope I'm saying that.
SPEAKER_01 (02:17):
Apyrophobia.
Is that A-P-E-I-R?
SPEAKER_03 (02:21):
A-P-E-E-I-R-O and then phobia.
SPEAKER_02 (02:24):
Phobia.
A-P-E-I-R phobia.
SPEAKER_03 (02:26):
I could be saying that wrong.
No, I bet you you're right.
SPEAKER_02 (02:28):
No, that sounds about right.
I think that's what maybe Lucydid say in that.
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (02:32):
Now Google Intense anxiety and panic attacks when
contemplating life.
So that's a pyrophobia.
That's a symptom of it.
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (02:40):
Is that the same as fear of everything?
SPEAKER_01 (02:44):
I'm sure there's probably another one.
Nick's gotta get those fingersgoing on that phone there.
Try to Google.
We're gonna have a lot ofGoogling right now.
Or what do we call it?
Geminiing.
Geminiing.
We're gonna be Geminiing.
SPEAKER_03 (02:58):
Panophobia is the fear of everything.
SPEAKER_02 (03:00):
Oh, that's the panophobia.
SPEAKER_03 (03:01):
Oh is that the one in the Charlie Brown?
SPEAKER_02 (03:04):
It was the Christmas episode.
Yes, that's what she said.
SPEAKER_03 (03:06):
Panophobia is fear of everything.
SPEAKER_02 (03:08):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (03:08):
So I would say most of your phobias are somewhat
dysfunctional because they'rethey're they are irrational.
SPEAKER_02 (03:14):
I heard the word irrational in things.
SPEAKER_01 (03:16):
So I so I would He's saying that with the most
adoring and loving look in hiseyes as he's looking adoringly.
SPEAKER_03 (03:24):
I just I just adore my wife anyhow, but I have my
phobias too, so I'm not I'm notwith that.
SPEAKER_01 (03:29):
Coffee.
No tomatoes, sauerkraut.
SPEAKER_03 (03:33):
No, I the heights thing.
SPEAKER_01 (03:34):
I'm is that what your fear is?
Yeah, he doesn't like heights.
Chrissy, what's your fear?
Besides of everything, besidespanophobia and apurophobia.
SPEAKER_02 (03:47):
Well, I don't like heights to some extent.
I don't know.
I guess because I generalizejust being freaked out by almost
anything.
So it's it's like really a sortof a downer for me.
Yeah.
I I wouldn't even be able totell you something that would be
impactful.
Because you'd just be like,well, that's typical for you.
SPEAKER_01 (04:05):
So I was trying to, I was thinking about this in my
drive-in as I was looking at thebeautiful fall colors we talked
about last episode.
I was thinking about what is itthat I'm really afraid of?
Now there's things I don't likeand I find uncomfortable to be
around.
So spiders, you know, what didwe say that was arachnophobia?
Oh, yeah.
(04:26):
Yeah.
So although I don't preferspiders and they may make me
squeamish, or I'm like, ugh, youknow, but I can't say that I
have a like a paralyzing fearof.
The only thing I can think ofis, and it's really perplexing,
is in some very situationalthings, I can have a fear of
(04:47):
heights.
But here's the disclaimer on it.
If I am standing on the top of amountain and I've got solid
ground under my feet, I can lookout over that mountain ledge and
be totally fine.
I can stand on the ledge and betotally fine.
So, for instance, we used to gohiking up at Zion National Park
in Utah a lot, and there is thisplace called, oh gosh, I can't
(05:09):
believe I can't remember thename of it.
Anyways, you hike up this onething and it's like 1200 feet
drop-offs on both sides of youand a very narrow trout, or
we're talking like maybe fourfoot wide section that you're
walking on the top in the seatrout.
Totally fine.
Now, if I'm walking on somethingthat has a see-through floor, so
like a graded floor, like ifthere's an emergent tower that's
(05:32):
up in Cuyahoga and it takes youup like so many levels, and
you're looking out over top ofthe trees, but this tower
doesn't have a solid floor, it'sgraded, so you're looking
through it terrified,paralyzing.
I have yet to make it to thetop.
SPEAKER_03 (05:48):
So is it called Angel's Landing?
SPEAKER_01 (05:49):
Yes, Angels Landing, thank you.
Yes, Angels Landing, thank you,yes, thank you, Gemini.
Yes.
So we would go to Angel'sLanding and we would hike that
hike every year, and I could doit.
I've helped people.
In fact, one time I went with myone sister, and she literally
was stuck to the side of tryingto climb it, she couldn't do it,
and we had to help her down.
But I was totally fine on that.
(06:10):
But I can't do that emergenttower over in the Cuyahoga Parks
area because it's got asee-through floor.
So I don't know what that'scalled because it's it's both
heights, but it's situational.
SPEAKER_02 (06:20):
So to be able to say that you have a legitimate
phobia, yeah, you have toactually be in the situation and
experience a hesitation, uh afeeling of anxiety.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (06:34):
And for me, that at that point it's paralyzing.
Like I literally am likeclinging to the side going, I
can't do like I can't move.
SPEAKER_02 (06:44):
So I'm sure I have phobies, but a legitimate having
it, I'd have to put myself intouh an experience to know.
So I've been, I've thought ofthings that I wouldn't like
probably, but I've never myselfto the point where I've actually
been paralyzed by that aspect ofit.
(07:06):
Yeah.
So again, because I isolatemyself so much.
SPEAKER_01 (07:09):
Now, see, recently we had gone canoeing, farm boy
Jim and I and our friends umHeather and Andrew, we went
canoeing, and at this placewhere we were canoeing, they had
one of those aerial courses thatyou could, it's like an obstacle
course, but it's like up in theair and you're on a harness and
you gotta like walk on a log andyou gotta climb over things, but
you're like up in the air andthere's different levels.
(07:30):
And at first it was terrifying,you know.
But then again, once I was ableto get my footing, I was fine.
But the one part that was thehardest was again was when I was
stepping on something I couldsee through.
So it was weird because otherthings, it was like you're
walking on a log 12 feet up andyou're harnessed in.
(07:51):
And yeah, it was difficult and alittle bit challenging, and you
had to trust your stability andyour core and your, you know,
trust that you could get throughit.
But and I was fine, like I wasable to push myself and get
through it and and everything.
But when we got to that onething where I could see through,
that was that was harder to walkon, even though it was a solid,
solid surface as far as youcould walk uninhibited, you
(08:12):
didn't have to step from a plankto step to another plank and
that kind of thing.
So it's weird.
I don't know what that is.
SPEAKER_02 (08:18):
Why is that?
Well, uh, it's not um withoutunderstanding.
I I would think because maybeyour mind just wants to see a
solid surface.
Yeah.
And I know that there's a I'msure some sort of a sensation
you might get, yeah.
Like you're almost walking onair.
Yes.
When you can't, these you know,cool idea of walking on
(08:39):
something that that's therephysically.
Yeah.
But your mind is yeah, itprobably something that your
mind triggers that tells you youmight be in danger.
SPEAKER_01 (08:47):
That's true.
Yes, that's very true.
Well, it's funny because youknow, we love to watch Ninja
Warrior, and you know, Jim and Iare always like talking about
it, and I have these illusionsof grandorp that, oh, someday
I'm gonna be, you know, fitenough and sly enough that I'll
be able to do a Ninja Warriorcourse.
Literally, as I was up on thefirst obstacle of this course
that um Heather and I did, I Idid, I said, okay, whatever
(09:10):
illusions of grandor I had thatI would be able to do a ninja
course.
Oh, clearly I cannot.
Because I can barely make itacross this log and just walk on
it.
Oh jeez.
I uh what did you findsomething?
SPEAKER_03 (09:21):
Oh no, so are you what about see through stairs?
Do those freak you?
SPEAKER_01 (09:25):
Yeah, I don't like if I can't see through if I can
see through it, like forinstance at the Grand Canyon,
they had this thing where youcould walk out and it was a
plexiglass ground.
Yeah, I I don't know.
It's not happening.
SPEAKER_03 (09:36):
Yeah, so it's a combination of bathnoophobia,
which is a fear of stairs ingeneral, and then or
climacophobia, which is the fearof climbing, which is includes
the fear of stairs withoutrisers.
SPEAKER_01 (09:48):
So it's it's not Oh, I know what you're talking about
without yeah.
So I don't know.
Yeah, it's kind of a mixture,it's a a fear of not having
solid ground underneath my feet.
What's that?
It's called keryphobia.
SPEAKER_02 (10:02):
No, there's probably anything.
Well, you know, now that hementioned the thing with the
stairs, yeah.
Like if you're going to tourhomes while they're being in the
process of building it, I dohave a heck of a time.
And I will, if if there was likeno banister or some sort of
railing that I could hold on to,I'm probably not gonna go up and
down the steps.
I have a difficult time.
I wouldn't say it's fear, it'salmost as if there's some maybe
(10:26):
it is, and I don't recognize it,but it's my basic not having
confidence and me being able tomanage, yeah, because there's
something with the visual fieldthere when then there's no back
to those stairs.
SPEAKER_01 (10:39):
Maybe it's just we're old and we just don't want
to get hurt.
We we have a fear of brokenbones.
SPEAKER_02 (10:44):
Well, I do have that.
I've had that for a long time.
Fracturaphobia.
Fracture.
SPEAKER_01 (10:51):
Yes.
Well, you know, and that's verytrue because oh sorry, I didn't
mean to like pound all yourearbuds out by whenever we were
doing some roofing work over thesummer in the barn, I can climb
a ladder, you know.
I I'm okay with that, and I canbe on the roof, but I don't like
the transition of off the ladderonto the roof or onto the roof
onto the ladder.
SPEAKER_04 (11:10):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (11:11):
And I think it's more just because my fear is
that it's gonna slip or I'mgonna slip in that transition.
So it's not a fear of the ladderand it's not a fear of the
heights, it's a fear of gettinghurt by the unstability of, oh,
this is a dangerous transition.
See, now this is what makes nosense with me.
I I could I could go into a penwith six adult lions and nothing
(11:37):
to protect myself but my ownwits and ability, and I have no
fear of that, but I can't gofrom a ladder rooftop to a
ladder without having toovercome some serious anxiety
and fear.
I that's dysfunctional.
SPEAKER_02 (11:52):
I guess.
I don't know.
I what's the name of that thing?
Now, because again, I watchthese videos.
It's called Is it Parkour?
Oh, yeah, parkour.
Uh-huh.
Okay.
Yeah.
So my one of my joys.
That's the Ninja Warrior thing,kind of, yes.
Oh, okay.
So they have these amateursdoing parkour.
And what what really adds to myamusement is if you have like a
(12:13):
ridiculous one where the peopleare generally getting really
hurt.
Yes.
I enjoy that.
You enjoy watching it.
I enjoy watching it.
You ain't gonna do it.
Oh no.
Jump.
You're like if I jump off thefirst step to the main level.
Uh no, that's dangerous.
Again, something could break onme.
We're not young anymore.
But the then there's usuallysomebody in the background going
(12:34):
yelling, parkour.
Sometimes they do it when dogsare like running insane or cats,
you know.
But I do kind of enjoy it.
Like they'll like uh jump fromone uh building to the next and
then their head bounces off theshed, and or they well, if
they're making the videos, whyam I feeling bad?
I'm gonna watch it.
Yeah, you want to hurt yourself?
(12:56):
I'm on board.
I'm gonna sit here and watch.
Big fan of the old jackass uh TVshow.
Yeah, you know, you want to dohorrible things to yourself.
I'm not gonna do it, but I'llsit back and watch gladly.
And obviously, I'm not the onlyone, or they wouldn't keep
making these damn videos.
This is true.
And I'm sure them jackass guys,outside of the fact that they
can't walk or do simple tasksanymore, they they did cash a
(13:20):
few checks from that.
SPEAKER_01 (13:21):
Yeah, so they did, but yeah, I love it.
Okay, here's another one then.
Talk about phobias that showFear Factor.
That was all about facing yourphobias, where they would put
people in a box and then likerelease like a thousand spiders
on them.
SPEAKER_02 (13:37):
Yeah, I'm not very familiar with the actual show.
I know what it is.
Really?
Yeah, and I know Joe Rogan wasopposed to that back then.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Uh, I'm only familiar with theDave Chappelle one.
He did a Chappelle show episodeof that, which is wonderful.
Yeah, because he was obviouslyhad an issue with crack, and so
(13:59):
he was on Fear Factor, and hehad no fear because he basically
nothing bothered him because hewas having had a little problem
with uh substances, yeah.
Uh mainly crack.
The character, nothing.
The character, yes, not theshow.
Yeah, yeah.
It was uh what he had a name forthat character.
SPEAKER_03 (14:16):
Tyrone Bigums, right?
SPEAKER_01 (14:18):
I don't know.
I'm not familiar with that.
Oh my gosh.
I'm gonna pull up for you later.
SPEAKER_02 (14:22):
Okay, it's awesome.
But yeah, no, fear factor isdefinitely, and I'm surprised I
didn't watch that because itwould fall in line sort of with
that type of people puttingthemselves in horrible
situations.
SPEAKER_01 (14:31):
Yeah, 100%.
Yeah.
Heights, and they would you knowput them in a box with you know
snakes or they'd have to eat atarantula or yeah, oh god.
I know.
SPEAKER_02 (14:41):
Well, that's see now that's that takes it to a
different.
I know it's sort of in the samefamily, but there's like
different, uh, different place.
Uh yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (14:49):
Yeah.
So Chrissy found a big list ofthings.
So what do you got on that listover there?
What do we got?
Gosh, all these phobias.
It's called 18 Halloween themephobias you might have was the
list.
Yeah, and I think this was onABC something.
SPEAKER_02 (15:02):
Yeah, let's see.
ABC7ny.com.
SPEAKER_03 (15:06):
It's a New York affiliate of ABC.
SPEAKER_02 (15:09):
Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They they had published thislist.
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (15:12):
What's on the list?
So uh what was the premise ofthe post?
SPEAKER_02 (15:16):
Just all these phobias.
Um, some of them a lot of ushave heard of.
The first one specifically,because there was a movie,
arachnophobia, the fear ofspiders.
We get it.
Yes.
Astrophobia.
That's uh should I we should wedo a quick quiz?
Anyone with their Latin?
I don't know.
Are these based in Latin?
SPEAKER_01 (15:33):
Astro.
Is that a fear of astronomy?
Fear of space, fear of stars.
SPEAKER_02 (15:36):
It it has something to do with like uh natural
occurrences type of thing.
Astra is the fear of thunder andlightning.
SPEAKER_01 (15:44):
Oh so a lot of dogs have astrophobia.
Absolutely.
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (15:51):
This one, you started laughing when we were
talking about this, and now I'mgonna laugh.
SPEAKER_00 (15:55):
I don't even think I'm gonna say is it bogey
phobia?
SPEAKER_02 (16:00):
Bogey phobia.
SPEAKER_00 (16:01):
Bogey phobia.
Bogey phobia is the fear of theboogeyman.
SPEAKER_02 (16:08):
How is this a really?
I mean, if if you're over theage of like seven, is this a
thing?
But hey, okay, we got a name forit.
That's wonderful.
Kira.
Oh boy, here we go.
Kiroto Kira.
See if you can best pronouncebetter.
SPEAKER_01 (16:28):
Cairo Chiropatop Cairo Chiropotopia.
It's not easy.
It's not, but I think it's Cairobecause it's C-H-I-R-O.
Give it to Mr.
Valedictorian everything.
You remember all your uhChiropotobia.
Or is the P in the T is the Psilent before is it Chyrotobia
in that P before the T issilent?
SPEAKER_03 (16:48):
I would say it's Cyroptophobia.
SPEAKER_01 (16:50):
Oh, well, there we go.
Look at how that just rolledright off.
Exactly.
Fear of bats.
SPEAKER_02 (16:55):
Fear of bats.
Yeah.
I have a fear of DJ Nick, if hecan say that word.
SPEAKER_01 (17:00):
I have an employee of mine that has a huge fear of
bats.
We work at a church, andobviously, sometimes we have
bats in our belfry.
And uh, Batman reference.
Bats and the belfry sometimescome down into the church, and
uh he pretty much will come andget me and my finance manager,
and we will go wrangle the bat,no problem.
(17:22):
But he mm-mm, no.
SPEAKER_02 (17:24):
I try not to be so hardcore on the bats.
Not that I haven't been in asituation where you're out in
the evening and you see them andyou start to worry because they
are really a great help uh inbug uh control and and things
like that.
SPEAKER_01 (17:39):
No, I have no problem with bats.
I enjoy bats, I like watchingbats.
I have no problem being aroundthem, seeing them.
When you go to the zoo and yousee of course, they don't really
call them bats.
They go the one they're calledflying foxes, and they're like
they're called flying foxes,they're like this big.
I'm like referencing like a footlong.
They but they're a bat family,but they're huge.
(18:00):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (18:01):
I saw a really good video on the internet again.
I remember this one.
Sorry.
It was uh a video of batshanging upside down, but what
they did was they flipped thecamera so it looked like the
bats were standing up.
And then they had like thishorrible, like really cool, like
nine-inch nails type musicplaying and it looked like they
were like sort of like gothdancing.
(18:22):
I found it.
SPEAKER_01 (18:23):
What's interesting about bats is when they hang
upside down, when they have togo to the bathroom, they flip
themselves over that way.
They don't pee or poop onthemselves.
They just go on your head.
SPEAKER_02 (18:32):
Well, I mean if you're standing.
You're standing underneath them,but yeah.
Well, geez, nobody can call themdumb.
That's why I know it's reallycool though.
So this one's a fun one.
What's one?
Chlorophobia.
Chlorophobia.
How do you spell that?
Uh here, it's the that oh, okay.
SPEAKER_01 (18:52):
C-O-U-L R-O phobia.
SPEAKER_03 (18:56):
Yeah, sounds right to me.
SPEAKER_01 (18:57):
Yeah?
Does that sound does it DJ?
SPEAKER_03 (18:59):
I'm not the expert one.
SPEAKER_01 (19:01):
She seemed uh so this is a common one.
This is probably right up therewith arachnophobia.
Do you think it's common though?
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (19:08):
Well, because they've made some movies I
haven't seen.
It's a fear of clowns.
Clowns.
Clowns.
Clowns.
SPEAKER_01 (19:14):
Yeah, I don't mind I don't mind clowns.
We've talked about that becauseboth of our parents were clowns.
I don't like the creepy crownclowns though.
Like the creepy ones, no.
SPEAKER_02 (19:25):
No, and I think that people have used the clown
persona in such a negative waythat it's sort of yeah.
I mean, it for a long time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's it's crazy.
Yeah.
The clown thing I can get.
Yeah, you can't go out and I'msurprised.
Do kids still get excited ifthey see a clown or are they
just totally freaked out?
SPEAKER_01 (19:44):
I don't know.
I feel like they probably getfreaked out.
It's kind of I think it goesright up there with their first
time seeing Santa Claus, howsome of them freak out, or the
Easter bunny, and you know,yeah.
I think clowns are kind of athing of the past because, like
you said, they've made them sothere's a negative now.
It's no longer a fun, cutething, it's a scary one.
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (20:04):
When you got the movie like it.
SPEAKER_01 (20:06):
Right.
Is that the one with the redballoon?
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Yeah, that's creasy.
SPEAKER_03 (20:10):
And the Joker.
I mean, you're really oh yeah,you're right.
Yeah, it's not, you know, theythese newer Batman movies that
have the Joker characters, theJoker's no longer this cartoony
thing, like even in the JackNicholson version.
SPEAKER_00 (20:26):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (20:26):
While he was nasty, was it still was a little it's
Jack.
SPEAKER_00 (20:31):
It's painted faces like that, yeah.
So yeah.
What else you got on there?
Hemophobia.
SPEAKER_01 (20:37):
That's a fear of blood.
SPEAKER_00 (20:38):
Right.
Yes.
Because of the hemaf is the uhroot word.
And seem some of these when wewere going through them, you
seem to know pretty good.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (20:46):
Lupophobia.
SPEAKER_01 (20:47):
That's a fear of wolves, or yeah, fear of wolves.
And this is because these onesare easy to dissect because they
have the Latin word in front,which if you do any kind of
medical terminology or thingslike that, you know, these are
common root words for the soit's easy to pick out.
SPEAKER_02 (21:01):
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (21:02):
Werewolves.
Wait a minute.
Okay, I don't know that one.
SPEAKER_02 (21:04):
No, no, no.
That's part of this last one wejust talked about.
SPEAKER_00 (21:07):
Oh, the lupophobia is werewolves.
SPEAKER_02 (21:11):
Genetic standpoint.
Is there a real thing called awerewolf?
unknown (21:18):
I don't know.
SPEAKER_02 (21:19):
What does the hell does that mean?
It's a wolf.
Wolf.
Yeah.
Werewolf?
Werewolf is Michael Jackson fromthe uh thriller video.
Is that just a Halloween thing?
SPEAKER_01 (21:30):
Yeah, you're mixing mythology and realology.
What's real and what's mythical.
SPEAKER_03 (21:36):
So a werewolf is not real.
A werewolf is not sort ofliterary term.
It's a mythology.
SPEAKER_01 (21:43):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (21:43):
It's right up there with the uh It's when a person
transforms into a wolf.
SPEAKER_01 (21:48):
Right.
It's kind of like a vampire whena person, you know, person turns
into a bat.
SPEAKER_02 (21:53):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (21:53):
Well, I don't know why it made this list like that.
SPEAKER_01 (21:55):
They should have said wolves.
They just they just paired themtogether.
SPEAKER_03 (21:59):
It's old English.
Werewolf is man and yes.
SPEAKER_02 (22:04):
Okay.
Okay.
Old English.
Okay.
Thank you, old English.
Uh this one's a sort of an easyone.
If you but if I say it, youprobably wouldn't know what it
is.
But then when I tell you what itis, it's like, oh, well, that's
definite.
Mascophobia.
SPEAKER_01 (22:21):
Mascophobia.
This is kind of like boogiephobia.
SPEAKER_00 (22:27):
You have a fear of boogeyman?
Mascophobia?
You have a fear of masks.
SPEAKER_02 (22:32):
Ma wh why?
Are you afraid of the mask orthe person under the mask?
I mean, I don't understand whatthe mask is gonna do to you.
SPEAKER_01 (22:39):
I think this goes into the Jason thing.
You know, that was that what ismovie Jason where he wears the
hockey mask?
Yeah, so I think uh like theMike Myers sort of Yeah, I think
you're just pairing, you know,bad things happen to people with
people when they're masks.
SPEAKER_02 (22:54):
So this I probably have to some extent a phobia of,
but I think a lot of people donecrophobia.
Oh, fear of the dead?
Yeah, dead things.
Yeah.
Just dead things.
Dead things.
My plant died.
Which one?
No, we're kidding.
No, I'm just saying in general,if your plant died, are you
terrified?
Because your plant's not dead,you have to throw it out the
window.
Get the hell out of here.
(23:15):
I can't have dead things in thehouse.
Uh pretty much everything in myfridge is uh I can't go near it.
Is your fridge becoming a petridish?
Yeah.
Oh, because of the creamer.
The creamer I thought I wassupposed to make and then forgot
what it was.
SPEAKER_03 (23:32):
Cottage cheese?
What is that?
SPEAKER_02 (23:34):
That's terrifying.
A fear of coffee creamer.
Is that on this list?
You guys are making you guys.
Nick Ny no.
Okay.
Nycto Nick.
You have a fear of nick?
SPEAKER_01 (23:48):
Nyctophobia?
SPEAKER_04 (23:49):
I don't know that is okay.
SPEAKER_01 (23:53):
Oh yeah, Nyctophobia.
Sorry, Nick.
Sorry.
It's a fear of the dark.
Fear of the dark.
You don't think that NYC wouldbe night.
No, I think it's nyctophobia.
Yeah.
Fear of the dark.
SPEAKER_02 (24:03):
What is that Latin stuff going on there?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (24:06):
Yeah.
Placophobia.
Ooh, what's that one?
Fear of tombstones.
Oh, that's weird.
Why would you be afraid of atombstone?
It's just a rock.
SPEAKER_02 (24:16):
I have a great story, real quick.
Oh god, go for it.
For a t a stone, a cemetery,cemetery stone, gravestone.
SPEAKER_01 (24:23):
Okay, so a placophobia story?
SPEAKER_02 (24:25):
Uh oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So this is just a handed downstory.
Don't know to what level it'strue, but deals with a
grandmother and agreat-grandmother.
SPEAKER_00 (24:36):
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (24:37):
My understanding is the story went that my
grandmother a long time ago wentdown in her basement and her
mother-in-law lived with them atthe time, so that would be my
great-grandmother.
SPEAKER_04 (24:46):
Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02 (24:47):
So my grandmother went down in the basement, I
guess, to do laundry.
And when she went down there,there was a child's gravestone
sitting in the basement.
unknown (24:54):
What?
SPEAKER_02 (24:54):
And totally freaked out.
And the story goes, and don'tknow to what level this is true,
but it's just one of thoseinsane stories.
That the great-grandmotherdragged it, it fell off its uh
pedestal in the cemetery.
She's walking through thecemetery or something.
And she says, Well, that's awaste of a good stone.
And she dragged it home becauseshe was gonna smash grapes with
it to make wine.
SPEAKER_01 (25:15):
What she stole somebody's gravestone because it
broke to make wine.
Yeah.
Chrissy answers it like it'saccommodate.
Like yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (25:26):
Well, well, remember, this is over a hundred
years ago, probably.
Cause yeah, it well, not maybenot that long ago, 80 or 90
years ago, probably.
I don't know.
My grandmother would be how oldnow?
Pretty darn old, 112 orsomething like that.
So the great grandmother wouldbe really old.
Yeah.
That was now again.
I have no proof.
I have no photographic evidenceof this.
(25:47):
I have no record, uh legitimatenotarized record of this.
It just was a story that wasalways told.
SPEAKER_01 (25:54):
Or was that just the cover-up story?
Because there was a body in thebasement and they put the
tombstone on it in the basement.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_02 (26:03):
I don't know, but uh we forgot the um Faz Phasm
Phasmophobia?
SPEAKER_01 (26:16):
Yeah, yeah, phasmophobia.
Which is uh Fear of the Ghost.
SPEAKER_02 (26:20):
Ghosts, which believe it or not, I'm guessing
pretty much everybody has that.
SPEAKER_01 (26:24):
Unless you're just totally Well, we've touched a
little bit on the ghost of mythings.
I mean, I grew up with a ghostin the house, so I was never
really afraid of ghosts.
Like, I'm not afraid of ghostsin general.
I just have a healthy respectfor ghosts, and I have had
negative experience with ghosts,but that didn't generalize to
fear of all ghosts.
What?
SPEAKER_00 (26:47):
Chrissy's look.
SPEAKER_02 (26:49):
I don't have a fear of all ghosts.
I don't have a fear of allghosts.
Oh, depending on their ethnicbackground or depending on their
spiritual background.
SPEAKER_01 (27:01):
Oh, if they are a good ghost or a bad ghost.
SPEAKER_00 (27:04):
How did you die?
SPEAKER_01 (27:05):
And if it was horrific, I am totally against
you.
I'm just saying, like, I don'thave a fear of ghosts.
I I have a respect for ghosts.
I don't have a fear of ghosts,but I think that some ghosts are
good and some ghosts are bad,and I've experienced
interactions both ways.
SPEAKER_02 (27:20):
And when you say you have a respect for ghosts, and
they say, so in their world, nomeans no.
SPEAKER_01 (27:29):
Yes, and in my world, no means no too.
Good.
I'm glad it crosses that.
Yes, it's a good thing.
No means no.
No means no.
SPEAKER_02 (27:38):
And Carrie has a respect for ghosts, so when they
say no, no.
Yeah.
Time to stop.
Okay.
Wonderful.
Now, this is a tough one, and Idon't know.
Carrie has this.
Probably my husband to someextent back in the day when I
used to be crazy.
Uh well, still am, but SamHainophobia.
This is a tough one, too.
Can I say it?
(27:58):
You would wonder why it would beso complicated.
SPEAKER_01 (28:00):
Oh, the first.
Oh, yeah.
I was looking at the third one.
I'm like, that's not what youjust said.
Oh, yeah.
Sam Hainophobia.
Sam Hainophobia.
Yes, fear of Halloween.
I don't have a fear.
This goes along with the ghosts.
I don't have a fear ofHalloween.
It's just not my favorite.
Right.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (28:16):
So it's uh it's just a preference more than a fear.
SPEAKER_01 (28:18):
It's a preference more than a fear.
I don't get I don't getparalyzed by fear.
No.
SPEAKER_02 (28:22):
People really get paralyzed by some of this stuff.
I can understand how some ofthis would be fear.
Like it's spider.
I don't enjoy spider.
It freaks me out, but I wouldn'tsay I get paralyzed.
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (28:31):
I wouldn't say I don't have an arachnophobia.
I don't have a fear of spidersin that it causes a physical
reaction of uncomfortableness oranxiety or paralyzing nothing
like that.
I just would prefer that they'renot in my space.
Right, right.
And God, I don't want them onme.
Oh gosh, no.
SPEAKER_02 (28:49):
So this one, why is this one so complicated, also?
I'm gonna give this to DJ saythis one.
This one's crazy.
The last one?
Second to last one.
Even niquet.
And it seems so complicated forsuch a simple idea.
Yeah.
I don't understand why they havethese phobias for things that
sanguivorophobia.
SPEAKER_03 (29:12):
Sanguhorophobia.
SPEAKER_01 (29:14):
I don't know.
What is it?
SPEAKER_03 (29:15):
She don't have that.
She loves them.
SPEAKER_01 (29:17):
Who?
SPEAKER_03 (29:17):
You.
SPEAKER_01 (29:18):
Me?
Yeah.
unknown (29:19):
Vampires.
SPEAKER_01 (29:20):
Oh, fear vampires.
SPEAKER_02 (29:22):
See, that's right up there with uh werewolves.
I only liked one vampire.
It wasn't a vampire.
It's a guy who played a vampire.
Is that the one with FranklinJoe?
Oh no, that's not who I wasthinking.
Nobody uh who's listening tothis knows who the hell I'm
talking about.
I need that list, sir.
Who's the last one?
When you told me this one whenwe were going through it, I
thought you meant like SeleneDion.
SPEAKER_00 (29:44):
Oh yeah.
The Selenophobia.
Which again is Is that the fearof the moon?
SPEAKER_02 (29:50):
Yeah.
Jeez, oh man.
What do you how do you live?
It's out there.
It's out there all the time.
Every day, all the time.
Yeah.
So what What?
Okay.
Jeez, oh man.
I think people made these liststo make people even more crazy
than they already are.
This one's an easy one.
Skelophobia.
Skeletons?
Yeah, that's a good one.
(30:10):
Teraphobia.
SPEAKER_01 (30:11):
Terra.
That sounds like ground or earthor something.
SPEAKER_02 (30:15):
That sounds logical, but that's not what it is.
SPEAKER_01 (30:18):
Is it pottery?
The fear of pottery.
SPEAKER_04 (30:24):
That's what I was thinking.
I can't watch that scene inghost.
SPEAKER_02 (30:27):
It freaks me out.
What the ghost?
No, the pottery.
Me too, man.
I can't stand the pottery.
All right.
SPEAKER_04 (30:45):
What is it?
SPEAKER_02 (30:47):
It's the fear of monsters.
Sorry.
Oh, Chris, they are too much.
Okay, and then let's not forget.
SPEAKER_03 (31:03):
I was I was afraid of the righteous brothers during
that scene.
SPEAKER_02 (31:06):
The song.
Yeah, Unchained Melody.
What's that phobia?
This the Unchained Melodyphobia.
Wikiphobia.
SPEAKER_00 (31:14):
Wikiphobia.
Afraid of Wikipedia.
SPEAKER_02 (31:19):
More and more people should be afraid of this.
No, but just remember theHalloween type theme and all the
witches.
I was gonna say which whichgroup has not been represented
yet.
Yes.
You covered them all.
Okay.
So yeah, there's that was a goodone.
You had uh some information downthere below.
I don't know if that wasanything to reference.
SPEAKER_01 (31:39):
Let's see, the formation of specific phobias is
still not well understood.
There oh, phobias are twice ascommon in women.
And then it also said while thefear of harmless or even
completely fictional things mayseem silly.
Oh, so that's our werewolves andwitches and monsters.
Right.
Specific phobias can becomedisabling if feared things
(32:00):
cannot be avoided or iftreatment is not pursued.
SPEAKER_02 (32:03):
Okay, I believe that treatment's always a good thing,
always, especially for somethingthat maybe it inhibits your
ability to live life to thefullest.
I don't appreciate thatstatement unless it's backed
with plenty of data that womensuffer from it more than men.
I think that's a loadedstatement that a man Yeah,
there's a lot.
SPEAKER_01 (32:23):
There's a lot could be interpreted.
That yeah.
If it's true, I can I can seewhy.
If it's not true, yeah, there'sa lot on that one.
SPEAKER_02 (32:30):
I don't know that I buy that.
I'm gonna need to need the data.
SPEAKER_01 (32:33):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (32:34):
So I have a fear of roller coasters.
Oh.
Which is called Veloxrotophobia.
Velox rotophop.
Which is not a Halloween theme,but that's a phobia.
Or they call it more informallycoaster phobia.
SPEAKER_02 (32:46):
Coaster phobia.
But let me ask you this, becauseyou have a fear of that.
I know you don't like it.
You don't want to be on a rollercoaster.
You don't appreciate the heightor the jarring, back breaking,
fun.
SPEAKER_03 (32:57):
It doesn't debilitate.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (32:58):
So just looking at a roller coaster, you're okay.
SPEAKER_03 (33:01):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (33:02):
You're not looking at it going, oh my god, I'm
having anxiety.
I can't, I can't even see it.
Oh, it's not maybe.
SPEAKER_03 (33:09):
I guess I'm I'm afraid of coming off the tracks
and just you know dying.
SPEAKER_01 (33:13):
Okay, that's just a fear of dying.
Yeah, well, it's true.
SPEAKER_03 (33:16):
It's the same thing.
I'm not a good flyer, and it'snot I'm not I'm not afraid of
flying.
I'm afraid of crashing.
Yeah, right, exactly.
SPEAKER_01 (33:22):
Okay, so there's probably a name, there's
probably some kind of name forthat kind of fear.
Like a fear of a possibleoutcome.
Of dramatic or unlikable orunreasonable or unrealistic
causes of death.
Okay, you know what?
I can tell you probably what myone biggest fear is.
And talking about cause of deathand things like that.
(33:44):
I have a fear that I will be ina car that goes off of a bridge
and into water and I'll be stuckin the car.
SPEAKER_02 (33:52):
Now, that's that's one I would have to say I share.
SPEAKER_01 (33:55):
Yeah, and now this one to the point of that I don't
like to be like if I have to goover a bridge with water, I will
go to the left lane because Iwant more time.
Like, I don't want somebody to atruck to come by and bop me and
push me into the off the road.
I want to be on the left sidebecause usually on the left you
got the other lanes, you know,so you're less likely to go over
(34:18):
the bridge.
SPEAKER_02 (34:18):
You'd rather just be crushed up against concrete.
Yeah, me too.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (34:22):
And I also, okay, this isn't a I will, if it's a
really big bridge, I will oftencrack my window before going
over the bridge or go over thebridge with my finger on the
button of the windshield of thewindow.
Because if my car starts goingover, that window's going down.
Because I will worry that I I'mconfident in my skills that I
(34:43):
could get out of the car andswim.
It's not that, but I don't, I'mnot confident that I would be
able to break the window if itwent into the water.
So I had that will probably sayis probably my closest, biggest
fear.
SPEAKER_02 (34:54):
That's a good recommendation.
I like that.
When you go over a bridge wherethere's water, yeah, I don't
care if it's 20 below.
Yeah.
You roll that window down.
Oh, that window, yeah.
It's at least everybody in thecar is going, what the hell's
wrong with you?
I'm freezing back here.
It's at least getting cracked.
SPEAKER_01 (35:10):
So that way it's mine's coming all the way down.
SPEAKER_02 (35:13):
Crack.
I'm not gonna be able to forcethat thing down.
I want it all the way down so Ican squeeze my ass right out
that window.
SPEAKER_01 (35:19):
Now, when we were talking about my fear about my
feet being on the ground, thatalso translates to cars and
bridges.
Because if we if I go over abridge that's solid, I'm okay.
But if it's a bridge that youcan see through and you can see
the water below and you're inthe car, same fear, same fear.
SPEAKER_02 (35:38):
No, I'm bridges are generally no, but if I can see
through it, forget it.
SPEAKER_01 (35:42):
Even if I'm in a car.
I got it.
Anyways, well, that was a lot.
That was a lot we meant long.
SPEAKER_02 (35:47):
We covered the phobia thing, is like really
that's dysfunctional.
That's that's dysfunctional.
Hey, what?
New line.
We need to say that at the endof every show.
SPEAKER_01 (35:56):
That's dysfunctional.
SPEAKER_02 (35:57):
That's dysfunctional.
That's dysfunctional.
Remember how they used to saythat's incredible?
No, that's dysfunctional.
SPEAKER_01 (36:05):
There we go.
Our new tag that could be forseason two.
We can do that in all season twobecause you know what?
We're ending our first year now.
SPEAKER_02 (36:11):
I can't believe it.
SPEAKER_01 (36:12):
I know it can't.
So, hey, before we wrap this up,just a few things we do want to
mention.
We are in the month of October.
The month of October, JunkiesCare is dedicated to supporting
the United Way of Wayne andHolmes County in Worcester,
Ohio.
And we are going to be at the 5KHeart and Ghoul event, spooky
(36:35):
sprint.
And that is going to be onOctober 25th at 9 a.m.
in the historic downtown area ofWorcester.
Chrissy and I will be there.
We're sponsors of the event, sowe're going to be there.
Please come out if you want to,or if you're close by, we'd love
to meet you.
But uh yeah, we're justsupporting uh United Way and all
the wonderful things that theydo to help the community this
month.
SPEAKER_02 (36:54):
Absolutely.
We encourage you to also supportthe United Way.
SPEAKER_01 (36:58):
Absolutely.
So in the meantime, check us outon our Facebook page.
We want to know what fears youhave.
And if you know what the name ofit is, the Latin name or what
the regular day, I don't know,what do you call it?
Technical technical name for it.
Let us know because otherwisewe'll be Googling it.
Yes.
We'll be no, not Googling it,Geminiing it.
So I think I'm still gonna sayGoogle, sorry.
(37:20):
So all right, everybody, have ahappy uh week this week, and
we'll see you next time.
Bye-bye.
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