October 15, 2025 • 31 mins
What do you do when the wildest stories in your life are the ones you didn’t cause—you just watched? We dive into the hilarious and heartfelt mess of secondhand dysfunction: a sibling clinging to a car hood to save neighborhood kittens, a dad proudly returning from the pound with “our” collie that was definitely a Labrador, and a mysterious 70s women’s gathering where a legally blind grandmother briefly claimed clear sight. It’s a tour through the moments we’ve normalized, the roles we played as witnesses, and the ways humor helps us carry complicated love for the people who raised us.
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DJ NICK (00:07):
Welcome to the Dysfunction Junkies Podcast.
We may not have seen it all,but we've seen enough.
And now, here are your hosts,Chrissy and Carrie.
KERRY (00:21):
Hello, junkies.
I'm Kerry.
CHRISY (00:24):
And I'm Chrissy.
KERRY (00:25):
Welcome to our episode today.
How are you doing over there,Chrissy?
I'm fine, thank you.
How are you?
CHRISY (00:30):
I'm good.
What are we talking abouttoday, Chrissy?
Well, some uh dysfunctionalsituations that don't involve us
firsthand.
Okay.
But we were witness to.
Okay.
And I know you've been having alittle bit of trouble trying to
remember one, although I betyou you've got them.
Oh, I'm sure I do.
They didn't impact you as muchas I have a couple that seem to
(00:50):
impact me.
Yeah.
KERRY (00:52):
Maybe something will spark with me along the way.
CHRISY (00:54):
Might maybe.
But go ahead.
Yeah.
No, go ahead.
KERRY (00:57):
No, no, you go ahead.
You go ahead.
CHRISY (01:03):
I have a feeling we're going to say the same thing, but
you go ahead.
I don't think we are.
Oh, oh, what?
No, go ahead.
Okay, I'm about.
KERRY (01:14):
We had too much coffee and pulp and sugar and I don't
know what today is.
Uh but speaking of all thatsweets, I was gonna say we got a
little special thing coming upthis weekend.
Yes.
It's Sweetest Day this weekend.
CHRISY (01:29):
Shout out to Sweetest Day.
If it's a Northeast Ohio.
Right.
KERRY (01:33):
So sir, for some of our international listeners or our
West Coast listeners, you haveno idea what we're talking
about.
But if they listen to theValentine's Day episode, they
do.
That's right, because theValentine's Day episode is still
our number one episode.
It is.
DJ NICK (01:48):
And you guys talked about its evolution.
KERRY (01:51):
Yes.
DJ NICK (01:52):
Well, you helped us with that.
KERRY (01:54):
DJ Nick got the the etology of it.
DJ NICK (01:57):
Thank you, Google Gemini, whoever.
KERRY (02:01):
The word of the day has etology.
CHRISY (02:03):
Now that is a good one now.
I never heard of that one.
DJ NICK (02:07):
Isn't it etiology?
Isn't that how you say that?
KERRY (02:09):
Oh, Nick.
God, you and your doctorate'sdegree over there.
She had me at etology.
Is that like she had me athello?
Yeah.
CHRISY (02:20):
Okay.
Word of the day is etology, nomatter what Nick's happy.
KERRY (02:24):
Okay.
DJ Nick, can you Gemini thediffer the word etology?
CHRISY (02:30):
Yeah, we're curious.
While we're thinking aboutSweetest Day and what you need
to buy me this weekend.
DJ NICK (02:36):
The cause or set of causes or manner of causation of
a disease or condition.
KERRY (02:43):
Okay, so I guess I wasn't using a word right.
I was thinking the the originsof.
DJ NICK (02:48):
Well, and I think in general, the etiological
generic, but its originalmeaning was for the etiology of
a disease.
But people use it for as thecause or the attribution, a
cause, or a reason forsomething, or the beginnings of
something.
So yeah.
KERRY (03:05):
So you say it etiology, and I was saying etology.
DJ NICK (03:09):
Yeah.
KERRY (03:09):
And and what does Gemini say the proper pronunciation is?
Does it tell you?
DJ NICK (03:14):
Well, usually it gives you the start of something.
CHRISY (03:18):
The only thing I can think of is Adam and Eve.
No.
The song.
But gonna be startingsomething.
KERRY (03:26):
Oh yeah, no, I gotcha.
Is it Michael?
Yeah, that's very much her.
Etiology.
Etiology.
E.T.
all Etiologia.
Okay.
CHRISY (03:36):
So, well, who then I can't remember which one of you
said what?
I think she was right.
KERRY (03:40):
I think I said it right.
Yeah, you did.
CHRISY (03:42):
Because yeah, you said etol.
Bam!
KERRY (03:44):
Yes.
My little BA degree justtrumped your little master
doctorate degree.
DJ NICK (03:50):
When I will stay silent, but I said the opposite.
KERRY (03:58):
Alright, enough goofing around there.
So sweetest day is coming up.
Yeah.
So happy sweetest day, Farm BoyJim.
CHRISY (04:06):
Come on.
Happy Sweetest Day BD June.
KERRY (04:09):
And I'm gonna throw a happy sweetest day out to my son
and my grandchildren too.
So love you guys.
CHRISY (04:15):
To my kids too.
Love you, love you, love you.
There you go.
What about our doggies?
KERRY (04:19):
You love our doggies.
CHRISY (04:20):
Well, geez, but Carrie got all kinds of pets.
She loves doggies.
KERRY (04:23):
Yeah, we'll be we'll be we'll be here for way too long
if I live in all that.
Yeah.
CHRISY (04:29):
Just everybody enjoy the day.
KERRY (04:32):
Eat some candy.
Happy Sweetest Day to all ourlisteners.
We love you guys.
Yes.
DJ NICK (04:37):
So I do believe that there's been an update to
Wikipedia on Sweetest Day.
Oh.
Because you know, we had talkedin the previous episode how it,
so Northeast Ohio thing, itactually started in Cleveland.
Now it's probably becausepeople have moved over, moved
from Ohio.
Yeah, all over now in Arizonaand in Florida.
KERRY (04:54):
Oh, well, there you go.
Yeah, I that's just true.
Actually, you know what it is?
We have a lot of listeners inArizona and Florida, and I think
they listened to our episode,and now that's why they're
celebrating it.
CHRISY (05:05):
That is why Hallmark needs to cut us a check.
I'm telling you.
KERRY (05:10):
And it's now going to be an international holiday because
all of our listeners inPakistan and Sweden and Russia
and Jamaica and Ireland and uhSingapore.
Singapore and Jamaica.
Did I say Bahamas?
I feel like I'm missing one.
United Kingdom.
United Kingdom, United States.
(05:31):
Hmm.
Third Saturday in October,everyone.
That's right.
Third Saturday of everyOctober.
So this year it's October 18th.
So there is our etiology ofSweetest Day.
So but what our show's reallyabout today is dysfunctional
situations that we witnessed.
CHRISY (05:49):
Yeah.
All right.
KERRY (05:50):
So Chrissy, you're gonna have to start doing some
talking, and I'm gonna keepdoing some soul searching.
And because I feel like I wasjust the firsthand of all
dysfunctions in my life.
So I mean, from yeah, just fromeverything.
So I I I can't think ofsecondhand situations.
CHRISY (06:09):
Well, I maybe because and I wonder if it had anything
to do with the fact that youguys didn't talk about the
elephant in the room.
KERRY (06:17):
Yeah, I was apparently the elephant.
I don't know.
CHRISY (06:22):
But you're right, you're right.
And we normalized everything.
And since it looked likeeverybody was gonna put on a
good show, I sort of just satback and watched.
Yeah, got the popcorn.
Yeah, so one I can rememberwhen I was fairly young, and
this is a weird one, but ithappened.
My sibling chased after aneighbor in their car because
(06:45):
they had gathered up somekittens from the neighborhood.
Oh, and they were threateningto drown them because they were
tired of the cats getting intheir garbage, probably, or
something like that.
And we did have a lot ofstrays.
We lived near a park, right?
And it seemed like it wasfairly uh, especially uh of the
time period a popular place tounfortunately dump unwanted
(07:08):
pets, especially cats.
So we had a lot of stray catsaround, and this neighbor just
hadn't had enough.
And they took the cat, thekittens, and they took them in
the car, and my sibling wasn'thaving it.
She chased after the car andshe threw herself on the hood.
Oh my gosh.
And they drove off with her onthe hood.
Oh.
Bye.
Can I have your room?
(07:29):
Are you gonna can I have yourdinner tonight?
I mean, yeah.
It was like I didn't How fardid they get with her on the
hood?
To the park, I think.
That was like what a quarter ofa block, and they probably
couldn't That was like a quarterof a mile.
It was a little f we lived atour old house.
So it was a little further, butwe were just around the corner
(07:50):
from where I was.
Oh, so it wasn't even farther.
A little bit, not much.
How fast were they going?
I don't think fast.
I think she he couldn't hecouldn't see.
She was blocking, she was onthe front, not like on the top,
she was like literally on thehood, like blocking the window
and everything.
KERRY (08:03):
Like, did she get the kittens?
CHRISY (08:05):
Yeah, she was walking eventually when we found her
again.
I mean, she's just like walkingback and she had the I guess he
sort of left him out thewindow.
KERRY (08:13):
Oh my gosh.
So I'm proud of your sister.
Go for her.
CHRISY (08:17):
Well, okay.
KERRY (08:20):
You can give her credit for that, I guess.
But that that was a little,yeah.
CHRISY (08:25):
Well, we just sort of tells you about our parenting.
Yeah.
What I and I hate to say this,I give dad an out.
He wasn't home.
KERRY (08:34):
Oh.
Okay, now so you think if yourdad was home that wouldn't have
happened, or that would havebeen a whole different
situation.
CHRISY (08:41):
Oh, okay.
Whole different situation.
Mom was home though.
Oh.
I don't remember her involvedat all.
I mean she was vacuuming.
And I was just sitting therelike, uh, excuse me.
I know I'm only like four, butis the sibling supposed to be on
the hood of that car?
Because it don't look right,and there seems to be yelling
(09:03):
happening, and she's swingingback and forth like an episode
of Star Ski and Hutch here.
KERRY (09:10):
You know, that's kind of funny that you talk about that.
Because although I did notphysically witness this because
it happened during the night andI was asleep, but that's funny
that jumping on the hood of acar was apparently the answer to
things back in the day becausemy dad stopped a guy from
stealing my sister's car in themiddle of the night because he
(09:30):
heard something going on and hewent out and they were pulling
out of the driveway, and my dadjumped on the hood or the car or
tried to jump in the door ofthe car and ended up being
drugged halfway down the road orwhatever.
Yeah, to try to stop at thecar.
Like who does that?
Apparently, people the 70srocks, man.
Yeah, it would have been 70s.
(09:50):
Oh, yeah.
CHRISY (09:51):
That was a thing.
Because we watched all the TVshows.
It was always on, you know,people are jumping on the car.
KERRY (09:57):
That was the answer to things.
Absolutely.
Oh.
So I'm glad I missed that.
There's no jumping of cars onme.
I'll call the police.
I'm not gonna jump on.
I'll call, I'll chase you downto get your license plate number
as you're doing something, butI ain't jumping on no car.
CHRISY (10:13):
Well, he knew he was gonna eventually come back too
because he lived in theneighborhood.
Yeah, it was your neighbor.
You knew where they were.
Yeah, we knew who they were.
It wasn't just some random guy.
It was like, oh, look at it,there goes so-and-so.
Wow.
Seems to want to take yoursister down to the park.
Yeah, there you go.
So bye, sibling.
Uh, you swim, so you'll be allright.
(10:36):
Oh, okay.
So whatever happened to thekittens?
Oh, I don't know.
They probably lived a long,healthy life in the
neighborhood.
Oh, okay.
KERRY (10:42):
So they didn't become your house pets?
CHRISY (10:44):
No.
Oh no, no, no.
We had we had a cat or two, butgenerally my my father had a
pretty big rule about becausethere were a lot of stray cats
where we lived.
And he he really didn't evenwant you to feed them.
KERRY (10:57):
Yeah.
CHRISY (10:58):
Because then they don't leave.
Uh so no, I don't rememberbringing them.
But I know there were otherneighbors that would feed cats.
That's probably another reason.
Not only were they abandonednear our homes, but then there
were neighbors who were feedingthem.
KERRY (11:14):
Yeah.
So okay, so something justsparked my mind that I can say I
was a witness to that, I guessin hindsight, I could say this
was quite dysfunctional.
All right.
So and it has a line to do withanimals.
We had two dogs growing up.
One was a purebred collie andone was a mixed breed.
And it was a collie, but it wasa mixed breed collie.
Uh there was a lightning storm,thunder and lightning storm.
(11:36):
So, what was that phobia oflightning storms or something?
We talked about it.
We had that.
Astro.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Good, good job, Nick.
Astrophobia.
Um, so, anyways, the dog hadrun off, and so it was gone for
a couple days, and we couldn'tfind the dog.
So, my mom told my dad to go tothe pound and see if you can
find our dog.
And so he went to the pound andhe was all excited.
(11:59):
He came home, he found ourdog's name was Lady.
He goes, I found Lady.
And my mom and I go out in thegarage and we look at the dog
and we're like, that's not ourdog.
Oh no.
It looked nothing like ourpurebred collie.
I mean, right.
That that's a pretty distinctlook.
Yes, okay.
CHRISY (12:18):
Not one you can generally use.
KERRY (12:20):
This dog looked nothing like it.
It was DJ McStein.
CHRISY (12:30):
I'm finding this actually a little unfortunate.
KERRY (12:33):
And he's like, we're like, it's got short hair, even.
And he's like, well, theyprobably shaved it.
And we're like, it's like alavador retriever.
It doesn't look anything like.
And he was like, no, this isour dog.
And we're like, I'm sorry.
(12:53):
No, so he had to take the dogback to the palm.
But because he had claimedownership of this dog, he had to
own or surrender this dog.
I know, but I mean, it's like Imean, it's not like we only
it's it's not like we had thisdog for like a month and then he
had to go find it.
Like this dog was like sevenyears old.
It had been in the Yeah, hedidn't know what our dog looked
(13:16):
like.
He brought home the wrong dog.
DJ NICK (13:20):
Did you ever find the real lady?
KERRY (13:22):
Yes, the real lady did end up coming back home like the
next day or something likethat.
Somebody had found her andthey, you know, were keeping her
safe until they found theowners or whatever.
But yeah, that was that wassomething dysfunctional.
DJ NICK (13:37):
I guess it would be.
Yeah, you brought home thewrong dysfunctional dads and
dogs.
KERRY (13:42):
Oh, that'll be the episode title.
There we go.
CHRISY (13:45):
Oh my gosh.
KERRY (13:49):
Dad's dogs and kitty cats on cars.
So okay.
Yeah, that's that was this.
Oh that was the only thing Icould relate to on that one.
Right.
CHRISY (14:00):
Well, that's dysfunctional.
Yeah.
KERRY (14:02):
I mean, uh but wait, do you see a theme here?
You were talking about the hoodof the car and it was related
to my dad, and now we're talkingabout the cats that's related
to my dad.
The source of all dysfunction.
So sorry, dad.
Love you, dad.
In heaven.
CHRISY (14:20):
Well, you know what?
That's uh you can't deny.
Sometimes those dysfunctions,they just sort of roll where
they're coming from.
KERRY (14:28):
Okay, I cannot wait to hear this next one you have on
the list.
You actually wanted to start totalk about it before we started
rolling.
And I was like, no, don't tellme.
I want to hear the story live.
So I have not heard thisbefore.
Chrissy, go.
CHRISY (14:42):
This is a weird one.
KERRY (14:43):
It it sounds it by the way, what you have in your
notes.
CHRISY (14:45):
I might have been a participant at a very we're
talking again, four or fiveseventies were just yeah, great.
I mean, just great.
Any of you, a lot of you didnot, we're not here, cannot
remember any of it.
They were great.
Yeah.
And this is why women gettingtogether, yeah, in some weird
(15:05):
fashion, almost thought maybe wewere at a Tupperware party.
Okay.
Just chicks everywhere, youknow.
Mom mom chicks, though, like,you know, like housefrows and
stuff like that.
Women, you know.
What'd you say?
House housefrows, housewomen.
Frau like Frau, you know, likeGermany.
KERRY (15:24):
The word of the day is housefrau.
CHRISY (15:26):
Frau versus Frau Line.
Okay.
Anyhow, my grandmother had thisgathering of women, and I kind
of had to look it up because Itried to ask uh the parental
figure if they recalled thisvery your mom.
Yes.
I tried to ask her if I don'tif she remembered this, and she
(15:56):
didn't.
And I'm thinking maybe becauseeverybody was high.
I I try to understand how thiseven came about.
But I remember there was agathering of women at my aunt,
my grandmother's house, uh-huh,and no man present at all, which
somebody should have beenfiguring this whole thing out.
(16:18):
Or I I'm still it's so hard toexplain.
And there was a lead womanthere, like the charge.
KERRY (16:24):
I like I don't know how to even explain what she was.
Do you think they were having aparty where they were it was
like a multi-level marketingselling of some product party?
CHRISY (16:33):
It wasn't a selling thing, it was an experience.
Okay.
Again, this is so weird.
Everybody there was at theunderstanding.
I don't know if she was somesort of psychic.
Okay.
Or but it I didn't see anyfortunes being told.
And I just remember she hadinteraction with my grandmother.
Okay.
(16:54):
Who had pretty much was legallyblind.
Now, that doesn't mean shecouldn't see anything.
Her her blindmother was mygrandmother was legally blind.
Okay.
So she she could see shadowsand things like that.
She was a very um bad diabetic.
Okay.
And in that time period, didn'thave all the treatments we have
now.
Thank, you know, thank goodnessfor treatments and uh, you
(17:15):
know, all of that.
But so this woman did somethingwith my grandmother, and it was
explained then that mygrandmother all of a sudden had
clear sight.
From that day forward.
No.
Oh, just during the time.
Just within a moment.
And the one thing she was likeyelling, and this is a little tr
traumatic for me.
Yeah.
She wanted them to bring me toher.
Oh.
(17:35):
Because her sight probably wasreally bad by the time I came on
this evening.
Right.
And I did spend a lot of timewith her because she would
babysit me before I kind of wentto school.
So they kind of like dragged meover there.
I mean, this sounds a littlebit like Rosemary's baby.
I mean, it's a little bitweird.
It's just it's a little scary.
And they had to put me in frontof my grandmother, and she like
was caressing, you know, myhead, and my according to her,
(17:58):
she could finally have a clearpicture of what I looked like.
Wow.
Wow.
Yeah.
Wild, weird.
Wow, why am I here?
Wow, what's everybody drinking?
Wow, why did this happen?
So I was looking this up.
Okay.
Because I was like, is thissomething that was going on in
(18:19):
the 70s?
Did you hear about the keyparties?
Yeah.
People were swap wives.
Uh-huh.
I'm like, is this some otherweird kind of what did you find?
Well, there is something thatmentions that there is like a
time period where in the 70s itwas like considered a feminist
spirituality movement.
Wow.
(18:40):
Where the people would womenwould get together, I guess.
Goddess worship, womenparticipated in rituals and
worship that honored the divinefeminine.
KERRY (18:49):
Um this sounds like a Wiccan party.
DJ NICK (18:52):
Yeah, but I don't know that your grandmother was up to
that with that stuff.
CHRISY (18:55):
No, but she probably heard, or somebody who was uh
able to convince her that thisis something she should do.
So somebody else probably hadan experience with this.
Right.
And so That's how it starts.
KERRY (19:09):
It's like a chain letter.
Yeah.
CHRISY (19:11):
And they're like, you know, you really should see if
this is something that wouldmean something to you.
KERRY (19:16):
Literally.
CHRISY (19:17):
And she should see.
And they're like, okay, yeah,so I'm gonna go to the show.
KERRY (19:19):
I'm getting it.
CHRISY (19:21):
So I'm saying you should see.
You should see you will see.
KERRY (19:28):
You will see.
That's what I'm saying.
CHRISY (19:33):
Listen to me, Grace.
Listen to what I'm saying.
I'm still freaking out aboutthis all these years, like 50
years, 49 years old.
KERRY (19:41):
We remember going in front of your grandmother and
her being like, I see you.
CHRISY (19:46):
Yeah, it was it was freaky.
KERRY (19:48):
Wow.
CHRISY (19:48):
And it's not to say anything negative about the
other children that were in hergroup of grandchildren.
I think it was just because Iwas the last one.
KERRY (19:57):
And she had never really seen me.
CHRISY (19:58):
And she had never really seen me as much as you know.
Right.
I don't even remember if mysisters were at the party or my
cousins.
I don't remember.
KERRY (20:06):
You were too traumatized by the fact that this happened.
You blocked everything outexcept for that.
Yeah, it was just it was Andthere was probably no TV there,
so you had to participate.
CHRISY (20:14):
Well, yeah, there were rules back then, like if you had
so many people in the house,the TV had to be off, you know,
type thing, I think.
Yeah.
Well, that's up.
No, no TV.
And it was in the evening, solike no Sesame Street, which was
really lousy, but no Gilligan'sIsland, no Jetsons.
So this was really weird.
And I can only imagine that itmaybe had something to do with
(20:34):
this.
Like there was a woman who waslike, you know, really uh, you
know, checking into her feminineside and sort of promoted that
she had these capabilities tosort of help people.
Yeah.
So it's in that psychic group.
Yeah, you know.
KERRY (20:48):
Yeah.
CHRISY (20:48):
But interesting.
Yeah.
KERRY (20:50):
Yeah, I'd have nothing to correlate to that one.
It's weird.
CHRISY (20:55):
I don't either.
Somebody, please.
Why was I involved in theseweird things?
Because you're special.
I'm so special.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Please, anybody out there whokind of has any idea at all as
to what I experienced, I sowelcome your input, please.
KERRY (21:14):
It sounds like one of those things that used to see.
Like, I'm sure there was anepisode like on Little House in
a Prairie.
I know, like, I think PeachDragon has a scene of this or
whatever where there's theperson that comes through town
and does the miracles, you know,and they get people to, you
know, like, you know, all comearound and oh, they're healed.
And the person gets up andwalks and kind of like, you know
(21:35):
what I'm talking about?
DJ NICK (21:36):
A snake oil salesman.
CHRISY (21:37):
Yeah.
KERRY (21:38):
Yeah, exactly.
DJ NICK (21:39):
It's like the Michael Jackson Say Say Say video with
uh Paul McCartney.
CHRISY (21:43):
Oh, where they pretend to be healed.
Yeah, they're selling elixir.
KERRY (21:47):
Elixirs, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Yeah.
So I wonder what elixirs theywere digging during that party.
Yeah, I don't know what wasgoing on.
CHRISY (21:56):
I don't even know why we were like uh involved in this.
And I really I It was a girl'snight out.
It was a girl's night outinstead of like the lamest
girls' night out.
Girls' night in with no men atthe house.
It just didn't seem it seemedlike you kind of think if this
is what women are doing whenthey're getting together, I mean
this is ridiculous.
(22:17):
You guys need to play bridge orsomething.
I don't know what the hell'sgoing on.
This is lame.
It was weird, it was veryweird.
KERRY (22:25):
Yeah, I'm sure that there was a lot that I was secondhand
to witness, but I it's beentrumped by all the firsthand
dysfunction I had to experience.
CHRISY (22:34):
So well, I can understand that.
KERRY (22:36):
Yeah, I get it.
CHRISY (22:37):
So yeah, my my stuff's a lot of witnessing.
Not that things didn't directlyhappen to me.
We've discussed already, andI'm sure we will discuss more as
time goes on.
But yeah, I mean, your familydidn't have some weird stuff
going on.
You had a lot of family, waybigger than me.
Is it I had such smaller numberand they were that kind of
weird.
KERRY (22:57):
You would think that there's directing these
questions over at DJ Next.
CHRISY (23:01):
Yeah, there'd be more weirdness in numbers.
Like he had the percent of thecity.
KERRY (23:05):
The opportunity would be more, right?
I hear you.
Uh-oh.
He's he's moving his seat, he'sgetting in close.
DJ NICK (23:11):
I really can't think of anything.
Yeah, like and nothing on theorder of that.
KERRY (23:16):
Yeah, really.
Just you.
Chrissy's good at herobservation skills.
DJ NICK (23:22):
This is so I really can't think of any.
I mean, I'm there's there'splenty of nuttiness in the
group, but you know, but uhthat's all right.
CHRISY (23:33):
Well, here's another real quick story good because it
came up the other day, and Idon't know why.
But when we were talking aboutthe fair.
KERRY (23:40):
The Can't Feel Fair, yeah.
CHRISY (23:41):
The Can Phil Fair and just fairs in general.
Yeah.
And this is gonna date a lot ofthings.
Uh, but we're talking about the70s, so but this was actually
in the 80s.
A weird thing I I witnessed andthen was forced to participate
in is that this performer, acomedian, Red Skelton.
Oh yeah.
If nobody knows who I'm talkingabout.
KERRY (23:58):
I know he's I served him dinner.
What when he was at the fair?
When he was at the fair.
CHRISY (24:02):
Oh my god!
KERRY (24:03):
You get it.
I know it.
Okay, so he was at the fair.
Explain to listeners who maynot know who Red Skelton is.
CHRISY (24:08):
He was a comedian and an actor.
Yeah.
DJ NICK (24:10):
I would say he had a variety show of his own.
Yeah.
Was it late 60s, early 70s?
CHRISY (24:15):
Might be before that.
Okay.
I mean, just uh and he had acertain character.
Freddie the Freeloader was thecharacter he sort of played.
He was a Freemason, which nowinvolved my father.
KERRY (24:26):
Yes.
CHRISY (24:26):
And he was the highest degree Freemason, which is 33rd,
I believe.
Okay.
My father was 32nd.
Oh, admirer of 33rd degreemasons and admirer of Red Skill.
And then I have a littlefondness for him because I
enjoyed watching his stoke,because my father would watch
them.
So I liked watching those withhim.
So he performed at the CanfieldFair.
Yes, he did.
And we had tickets to see that,and my mother was there.
(24:48):
My father used to do securityand stuff a lot for the fair.
So I think he was already kindof there, but behind the scenes
type thing.
KERRY (24:55):
Your dad might have been the cop that escorted me over
with his Red Skelton's dinner.
You never know.
Could be six degrees ofseparation.
You never know.
CHRISY (25:04):
I don't know what happened with my mom.
She like lost her mind, but theshow was over.
And my mother dragged me.
A lot of times my mother woulddrag me places and tell me we we
need to do this.
This being one of thosesituations.
We jumped the fence to get tohis trailer.
KERRY (25:18):
Yeah, because his trailer was on the inside of the track.
Yeah.
CHRISY (25:21):
Oh god.
KERRY (25:23):
Did you make it through the trailer?
CHRISY (25:24):
Oh, yeah.
Oh.
And she forced us in.
Very nice.
You know, we didn't get jumpedor anything.
It was horrific.
This is the guy.
And then she's like, you know,oh, Chrissy, it's a skeleton.
Don't you know what I mean?
Okay.
Why did we just commit whatseems to be a crime?
KERRY (25:47):
So you actually got to his trailer to the door.
Did you get inside the trailer?
You were in the trailer.
Yeah.
And he was in there?
Yeah.
CHRISY (25:58):
It was after his show.
It was so wrong.
Why are you taking this?
I probably try and think.
Do you remember how old youwere?
Because that will help meremember how old.
Yeah, 10?
KERRY (26:09):
Oh no.
Eight or ten.
Oh no.
I was because I was working theI was working the food stand
that was underneath thegrandstand and I was 14.
CHRISY (26:17):
Oh my God.
Were we really that old?
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
I should have known better.
I should have said you go.
Why was I?
Why did I get pulled out of thecity?
KERRY (26:25):
Yeah, because I think the youngest you at that time, the
youngest you could be to work atthe work, because I worked for
a concession company and theyowned all the concession stands
that were underneath thegrandstand there.
It was my first year.
I was old enough to work there.
And so I know I was 14.
CHRISY (26:39):
Oh my gosh.
KERRY (26:40):
Yeah.
So and it was that would havebeen You really I feel even more
ridiculous now.
CHRISY (26:46):
I really wish you wouldn't.
Because I'm like, yeah, whatwere we?
Like eight or ten?
No.
Oh my gosh.
Mm-hmm.
I really needed a place to goback home.
KERRY (26:55):
So I was just like, I can't believe so your mom and
you jumped the fence.
Well, she dragged me.
I know, but what I'm saying isphysically had to go over the
fence.
CHRISY (27:04):
Yeah, there was no way for you to get to them after
they were.
KERRY (27:07):
I wish I could have seen Jane O'Cup to the fence.
CHRISY (27:10):
She's like, we'll just go over this way.
I'm like, but that looksdangerous.
DJ NICK (27:14):
No.
So I'm looking this up, and itsays he performed at the
Canfield Fair in 1975.
KERRY (27:21):
No, no.
No, he did it.
No.
He did it anymore.
He did it.
He did another one because ithas to be.
It's in the 80s.
He may have been the openingperformer for something else or
whatever, but no, he was therebecause I yes, because my mom
had explained to me.
And at the time, I was like,Oh, I don't.
I said I came home and I went,Mom, I got to serve dinner to
(27:42):
this guy, you know, that he wasthe performer.
His name is Red Skelton.
She goes, Oh, he's like aclown.
That was how she described himto me.
Meaning, like, you know, acomic.
Are you sure you're not seeingthat?
No, I'm she there's there's hewas definitely there because
that was the only summer that Iworked the Campfield Fair
because after that is when I wasin that traveling band and
(28:05):
going to high school andeverything.
So I only worked for the fairone summer, and it was that
summer.
DJ NICK (28:10):
But I'm wondering if he he was there in 75 also.
KERRY (28:13):
Maybe that's oh he may have very well been.
Oh, sure.
DJ NICK (28:15):
Maybe that's you were three years old and she was
dragging you into a trailer.
KERRY (28:20):
No, for some reason I feel like No, I bet you it was
this time because yeah.
Uh-huh.
So what year would the betwould that if we were 14 and we
were born in 72, what does thatmake it?
86.
86, yeah.
CHRISY (28:32):
Um, just trying to read on this.
DJ NICK (28:34):
Maybe I was maybe it was 13 then because it was
before Yeah, the only one that'spopping up is his perform that
would have been 50 years ago.
He was he was at the campus.
KERRY (28:44):
Yeah.
He he was definitely, but likeI said, maybe he wasn't the main
performer, maybe he was like alike I said, an opener or
something, but he was definitelythere.
So yeah, I it's weird becauseit's really kind of hard to see
here, but yeah, he wasdefinitely No, it was definitely
because I remember they we heordered his dinner, we took him
(29:07):
the steak hoagie sandwiches andFrench fries, and I think we
even took him a funnel cake.
We had to take that, and Iremember they had a cop that
came and walked us.
We had to walk across the trackover to the inside.
I can see his trailer andeverything that we went to, and
I remember handing it to him,and he was like very sweet and
everything, but I was just like,This is an old man, I don't
(29:28):
know who this is, you know.
And so when I went home, I'mlike, I don't know, I got picked
to go take Red Skelton.
My mom's like, Oh, that'sreally good.
Yeah, he's he's like a he'slike a clown, and I'm like, he
didn't look like he was dressedlike a clown.
Yeah, no, he wasn't.
In my mind, I'm thinking clown,right?
Oh yeah, but yeah, he was acomic.
CHRISY (29:45):
Yeah, he was, but he had a the Freddie the Freeloader
was a clown type uh character hedid.
And I'm betting if my father,because he did work the fair
security a lot, yeah, heprobably requested an Pretty
much forced himself on thatdetail.
That detail, yeah.
Because he really admired him.
So but yeah, it was a littlebit humiliating.
KERRY (30:08):
But that's funny that our lives crossed.
CHRISY (30:11):
Probably we'll find out as with time goes on.
More than that.
KERRY (30:14):
More than that, yeah.
So that is really interesting.
So we want to hear yourstories.
What things did you witness?
CHRISY (30:22):
Uh the things did your parents drag you over fences
for.
Stop drop and roll.
KERRY (30:32):
Hey, in the meantime, we just want to remind all of you
that in the month of October,Junkies Care is supporting the
United Way of Wayne and Holmescounties in Worcester, Ohio.
They do a fabulous job ofsupporting many different
organizations in the communityfrom the Salvation Army,
Goodwill, the Dolly PartonImagination Library.
(30:52):
They also help with emergencysheltering and so much more.
So we really want to give ashout out to them.
We are sponsors for their Heartand Goal 2025 5K and one mile
spooky sprint that's going to beon Saturday, October 25th in
the historic downtown Worcesterarea.
Chrissy and I will be there.
We're still working on ourcostumes, but we will be there.
(31:15):
I'm gonna probably try to runin the race and we'll be there.
Hope to meet any of you, all ofyou that come out and support
this great organization.
Yes.
CHRISY (31:23):
Thank you.
KERRY (31:23):
In the meantime, if you ever have any questions about
dysfunction junkies, want to seewhere we're going to be, who
we're supporting, or want toread our blog.
I have my blog on there that'scalled The Elephant Speaks.
Chrissy's working on her blogadding to it, but that all can
be found on our website, whichis dysfunction junkies
podcast.com.
Yes.
Alrighty, everyone.
See you next time.
CHRISY (31:44):
Bye, everybody.
Welcome to the Dysfunction Junkies Podcast.
We may not have seen it all,but we've seen enough.
And now, here are your hosts,Chrissy and Carrie.
KERRY (00:21):
Hello, junkies.
I'm Kerry.
CHRISY (00:24):
And I'm Chrissy.
KERRY (00:25):
Welcome to our episode today.
How are you doing over there,Chrissy?
I'm fine, thank you.
How are you?
CHRISY (00:30):
I'm good.
What are we talking abouttoday, Chrissy?
Well, some uh dysfunctionalsituations that don't involve us
firsthand.
Okay.
But we were witness to.
Okay.
And I know you've been having alittle bit of trouble trying to
remember one, although I betyou you've got them.
Oh, I'm sure I do.
They didn't impact you as muchas I have a couple that seem to
(00:50):
impact me.
Yeah.
KERRY (00:52):
Maybe something will spark with me along the way.
CHRISY (00:54):
Might maybe.
But go ahead.
Yeah.
No, go ahead.
KERRY (00:57):
No, no, you go ahead.
You go ahead.
CHRISY (01:03):
I have a feeling we're going to say the same thing, but
you go ahead.
I don't think we are.
Oh, oh, what?
No, go ahead.
Okay, I'm about.
KERRY (01:14):
We had too much coffee and pulp and sugar and I don't
know what today is.
Uh but speaking of all thatsweets, I was gonna say we got a
little special thing coming upthis weekend.
Yes.
It's Sweetest Day this weekend.
CHRISY (01:29):
Shout out to Sweetest Day.
If it's a Northeast Ohio.
Right.
KERRY (01:33):
So sir, for some of our international listeners or our
West Coast listeners, you haveno idea what we're talking
about.
But if they listen to theValentine's Day episode, they
do.
That's right, because theValentine's Day episode is still
our number one episode.
It is.
DJ NICK (01:48):
And you guys talked about its evolution.
KERRY (01:51):
Yes.
DJ NICK (01:52):
Well, you helped us with that.
KERRY (01:54):
DJ Nick got the the etology of it.
DJ NICK (01:57):
Thank you, Google Gemini, whoever.
KERRY (02:01):
The word of the day has etology.
CHRISY (02:03):
Now that is a good one now.
I never heard of that one.
DJ NICK (02:07):
Isn't it etiology?
Isn't that how you say that?
KERRY (02:09):
Oh, Nick.
God, you and your doctorate'sdegree over there.
She had me at etology.
Is that like she had me athello?
Yeah.
CHRISY (02:20):
Okay.
Word of the day is etology, nomatter what Nick's happy.
KERRY (02:24):
Okay.
DJ Nick, can you Gemini thediffer the word etology?
CHRISY (02:30):
Yeah, we're curious.
While we're thinking aboutSweetest Day and what you need
to buy me this weekend.
DJ NICK (02:36):
The cause or set of causes or manner of causation of
a disease or condition.
KERRY (02:43):
Okay, so I guess I wasn't using a word right.
I was thinking the the originsof.
DJ NICK (02:48):
Well, and I think in general, the etiological
generic, but its originalmeaning was for the etiology of
a disease.
But people use it for as thecause or the attribution, a
cause, or a reason forsomething, or the beginnings of
something.
So yeah.
KERRY (03:05):
So you say it etiology, and I was saying etology.
DJ NICK (03:09):
Yeah.
KERRY (03:09):
And and what does Gemini say the proper pronunciation is?
Does it tell you?
DJ NICK (03:14):
Well, usually it gives you the start of something.
CHRISY (03:18):
The only thing I can think of is Adam and Eve.
No.
The song.
But gonna be startingsomething.
KERRY (03:26):
Oh yeah, no, I gotcha.
Is it Michael?
Yeah, that's very much her.
Etiology.
Etiology.
E.T.
all Etiologia.
Okay.
CHRISY (03:36):
So, well, who then I can't remember which one of you
said what?
I think she was right.
KERRY (03:40):
I think I said it right.
Yeah, you did.
CHRISY (03:42):
Because yeah, you said etol.
Bam!
KERRY (03:44):
Yes.
My little BA degree justtrumped your little master
doctorate degree.
DJ NICK (03:50):
When I will stay silent, but I said the opposite.
KERRY (03:58):
Alright, enough goofing around there.
So sweetest day is coming up.
Yeah.
So happy sweetest day, Farm BoyJim.
CHRISY (04:06):
Come on.
Happy Sweetest Day BD June.
KERRY (04:09):
And I'm gonna throw a happy sweetest day out to my son
and my grandchildren too.
So love you guys.
CHRISY (04:15):
To my kids too.
Love you, love you, love you.
There you go.
What about our doggies?
KERRY (04:19):
You love our doggies.
CHRISY (04:20):
Well, geez, but Carrie got all kinds of pets.
She loves doggies.
KERRY (04:23):
Yeah, we'll be we'll be we'll be here for way too long
if I live in all that.
Yeah.
CHRISY (04:29):
Just everybody enjoy the day.
KERRY (04:32):
Eat some candy.
Happy Sweetest Day to all ourlisteners.
We love you guys.
Yes.
DJ NICK (04:37):
So I do believe that there's been an update to
Wikipedia on Sweetest Day.
Oh.
Because you know, we had talkedin the previous episode how it,
so Northeast Ohio thing, itactually started in Cleveland.
Now it's probably becausepeople have moved over, moved
from Ohio.
Yeah, all over now in Arizonaand in Florida.
KERRY (04:54):
Oh, well, there you go.
Yeah, I that's just true.
Actually, you know what it is?
We have a lot of listeners inArizona and Florida, and I think
they listened to our episode,and now that's why they're
celebrating it.
CHRISY (05:05):
That is why Hallmark needs to cut us a check.
I'm telling you.
KERRY (05:10):
And it's now going to be an international holiday because
all of our listeners inPakistan and Sweden and Russia
and Jamaica and Ireland and uhSingapore.
Singapore and Jamaica.
Did I say Bahamas?
I feel like I'm missing one.
United Kingdom.
United Kingdom, United States.
(05:31):
Hmm.
Third Saturday in October,everyone.
That's right.
Third Saturday of everyOctober.
So this year it's October 18th.
So there is our etiology ofSweetest Day.
So but what our show's reallyabout today is dysfunctional
situations that we witnessed.
CHRISY (05:49):
Yeah.
All right.
KERRY (05:50):
So Chrissy, you're gonna have to start doing some
talking, and I'm gonna keepdoing some soul searching.
And because I feel like I wasjust the firsthand of all
dysfunctions in my life.
So I mean, from yeah, just fromeverything.
So I I I can't think ofsecondhand situations.
CHRISY (06:09):
Well, I maybe because and I wonder if it had anything
to do with the fact that youguys didn't talk about the
elephant in the room.
KERRY (06:17):
Yeah, I was apparently the elephant.
I don't know.
CHRISY (06:22):
But you're right, you're right.
And we normalized everything.
And since it looked likeeverybody was gonna put on a
good show, I sort of just satback and watched.
Yeah, got the popcorn.
Yeah, so one I can rememberwhen I was fairly young, and
this is a weird one, but ithappened.
My sibling chased after aneighbor in their car because
(06:45):
they had gathered up somekittens from the neighborhood.
Oh, and they were threateningto drown them because they were
tired of the cats getting intheir garbage, probably, or
something like that.
And we did have a lot ofstrays.
We lived near a park, right?
And it seemed like it wasfairly uh, especially uh of the
time period a popular place tounfortunately dump unwanted
(07:08):
pets, especially cats.
So we had a lot of stray catsaround, and this neighbor just
hadn't had enough.
And they took the cat, thekittens, and they took them in
the car, and my sibling wasn'thaving it.
She chased after the car andshe threw herself on the hood.
Oh my gosh.
And they drove off with her onthe hood.
Oh.
Bye.
Can I have your room?
(07:29):
Are you gonna can I have yourdinner tonight?
I mean, yeah.
It was like I didn't How fardid they get with her on the
hood?
To the park, I think.
That was like what a quarter ofa block, and they probably
couldn't That was like a quarterof a mile.
It was a little f we lived atour old house.
So it was a little further, butwe were just around the corner
(07:50):
from where I was.
Oh, so it wasn't even farther.
A little bit, not much.
How fast were they going?
I don't think fast.
I think she he couldn't hecouldn't see.
She was blocking, she was onthe front, not like on the top,
she was like literally on thehood, like blocking the window
and everything.
KERRY (08:03):
Like, did she get the kittens?
CHRISY (08:05):
Yeah, she was walking eventually when we found her
again.
I mean, she's just like walkingback and she had the I guess he
sort of left him out thewindow.
KERRY (08:13):
Oh my gosh.
So I'm proud of your sister.
Go for her.
CHRISY (08:17):
Well, okay.
KERRY (08:20):
You can give her credit for that, I guess.
But that that was a little,yeah.
CHRISY (08:25):
Well, we just sort of tells you about our parenting.
Yeah.
What I and I hate to say this,I give dad an out.
He wasn't home.
KERRY (08:34):
Oh.
Okay, now so you think if yourdad was home that wouldn't have
happened, or that would havebeen a whole different
situation.
CHRISY (08:41):
Oh, okay.
Whole different situation.
Mom was home though.
Oh.
I don't remember her involvedat all.
I mean she was vacuuming.
And I was just sitting therelike, uh, excuse me.
I know I'm only like four, butis the sibling supposed to be on
the hood of that car?
Because it don't look right,and there seems to be yelling
(09:03):
happening, and she's swingingback and forth like an episode
of Star Ski and Hutch here.
KERRY (09:10):
You know, that's kind of funny that you talk about that.
Because although I did notphysically witness this because
it happened during the night andI was asleep, but that's funny
that jumping on the hood of acar was apparently the answer to
things back in the day becausemy dad stopped a guy from
stealing my sister's car in themiddle of the night because he
(09:30):
heard something going on and hewent out and they were pulling
out of the driveway, and my dadjumped on the hood or the car or
tried to jump in the door ofthe car and ended up being
drugged halfway down the road orwhatever.
Yeah, to try to stop at thecar.
Like who does that?
Apparently, people the 70srocks, man.
Yeah, it would have been 70s.
(09:50):
Oh, yeah.
CHRISY (09:51):
That was a thing.
Because we watched all the TVshows.
It was always on, you know,people are jumping on the car.
KERRY (09:57):
That was the answer to things.
Absolutely.
Oh.
So I'm glad I missed that.
There's no jumping of cars onme.
I'll call the police.
I'm not gonna jump on.
I'll call, I'll chase you downto get your license plate number
as you're doing something, butI ain't jumping on no car.
CHRISY (10:13):
Well, he knew he was gonna eventually come back too
because he lived in theneighborhood.
Yeah, it was your neighbor.
You knew where they were.
Yeah, we knew who they were.
It wasn't just some random guy.
It was like, oh, look at it,there goes so-and-so.
Wow.
Seems to want to take yoursister down to the park.
Yeah, there you go.
So bye, sibling.
Uh, you swim, so you'll be allright.
(10:36):
Oh, okay.
So whatever happened to thekittens?
Oh, I don't know.
They probably lived a long,healthy life in the
neighborhood.
Oh, okay.
KERRY (10:42):
So they didn't become your house pets?
CHRISY (10:44):
No.
Oh no, no, no.
We had we had a cat or two, butgenerally my my father had a
pretty big rule about becausethere were a lot of stray cats
where we lived.
And he he really didn't evenwant you to feed them.
KERRY (10:57):
Yeah.
CHRISY (10:58):
Because then they don't leave.
Uh so no, I don't rememberbringing them.
But I know there were otherneighbors that would feed cats.
That's probably another reason.
Not only were they abandonednear our homes, but then there
were neighbors who were feedingthem.
KERRY (11:14):
Yeah.
So okay, so something justsparked my mind that I can say I
was a witness to that, I guessin hindsight, I could say this
was quite dysfunctional.
All right.
So and it has a line to do withanimals.
We had two dogs growing up.
One was a purebred collie andone was a mixed breed.
And it was a collie, but it wasa mixed breed collie.
Uh there was a lightning storm,thunder and lightning storm.
(11:36):
So, what was that phobia oflightning storms or something?
We talked about it.
We had that.
Astro.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Good, good job, Nick.
Astrophobia.
Um, so, anyways, the dog hadrun off, and so it was gone for
a couple days, and we couldn'tfind the dog.
So, my mom told my dad to go tothe pound and see if you can
find our dog.
And so he went to the pound andhe was all excited.
(11:59):
He came home, he found ourdog's name was Lady.
He goes, I found Lady.
And my mom and I go out in thegarage and we look at the dog
and we're like, that's not ourdog.
Oh no.
It looked nothing like ourpurebred collie.
I mean, right.
That that's a pretty distinctlook.
Yes, okay.
CHRISY (12:18):
Not one you can generally use.
KERRY (12:20):
This dog looked nothing like it.
It was DJ McStein.
CHRISY (12:30):
I'm finding this actually a little unfortunate.
KERRY (12:33):
And he's like, we're like, it's got short hair, even.
And he's like, well, theyprobably shaved it.
And we're like, it's like alavador retriever.
It doesn't look anything like.
And he was like, no, this isour dog.
And we're like, I'm sorry.
(12:53):
No, so he had to take the dogback to the palm.
But because he had claimedownership of this dog, he had to
own or surrender this dog.
I know, but I mean, it's like Imean, it's not like we only
it's it's not like we had thisdog for like a month and then he
had to go find it.
Like this dog was like sevenyears old.
It had been in the Yeah, hedidn't know what our dog looked
(13:16):
like.
He brought home the wrong dog.
DJ NICK (13:20):
Did you ever find the real lady?
KERRY (13:22):
Yes, the real lady did end up coming back home like the
next day or something likethat.
Somebody had found her andthey, you know, were keeping her
safe until they found theowners or whatever.
But yeah, that was that wassomething dysfunctional.
DJ NICK (13:37):
I guess it would be.
Yeah, you brought home thewrong dysfunctional dads and
dogs.
KERRY (13:42):
Oh, that'll be the episode title.
There we go.
CHRISY (13:45):
Oh my gosh.
KERRY (13:49):
Dad's dogs and kitty cats on cars.
So okay.
Yeah, that's that was this.
Oh that was the only thing Icould relate to on that one.
Right.
CHRISY (14:00):
Well, that's dysfunctional.
Yeah.
KERRY (14:02):
I mean, uh but wait, do you see a theme here?
You were talking about the hoodof the car and it was related
to my dad, and now we're talkingabout the cats that's related
to my dad.
The source of all dysfunction.
So sorry, dad.
Love you, dad.
In heaven.
CHRISY (14:20):
Well, you know what?
That's uh you can't deny.
Sometimes those dysfunctions,they just sort of roll where
they're coming from.
KERRY (14:28):
Okay, I cannot wait to hear this next one you have on
the list.
You actually wanted to start totalk about it before we started
rolling.
And I was like, no, don't tellme.
I want to hear the story live.
So I have not heard thisbefore.
Chrissy, go.
CHRISY (14:42):
This is a weird one.
KERRY (14:43):
It it sounds it by the way, what you have in your
notes.
CHRISY (14:45):
I might have been a participant at a very we're
talking again, four or fiveseventies were just yeah, great.
I mean, just great.
Any of you, a lot of you didnot, we're not here, cannot
remember any of it.
They were great.
Yeah.
And this is why women gettingtogether, yeah, in some weird
(15:05):
fashion, almost thought maybe wewere at a Tupperware party.
Okay.
Just chicks everywhere, youknow.
Mom mom chicks, though, like,you know, like housefrows and
stuff like that.
Women, you know.
What'd you say?
House housefrows, housewomen.
Frau like Frau, you know, likeGermany.
KERRY (15:24):
The word of the day is housefrau.
CHRISY (15:26):
Frau versus Frau Line.
Okay.
Anyhow, my grandmother had thisgathering of women, and I kind
of had to look it up because Itried to ask uh the parental
figure if they recalled thisvery your mom.
Yes.
I tried to ask her if I don'tif she remembered this, and she
(15:56):
didn't.
And I'm thinking maybe becauseeverybody was high.
I I try to understand how thiseven came about.
But I remember there was agathering of women at my aunt,
my grandmother's house, uh-huh,and no man present at all, which
somebody should have beenfiguring this whole thing out.
(16:18):
Or I I'm still it's so hard toexplain.
And there was a lead womanthere, like the charge.
KERRY (16:24):
I like I don't know how to even explain what she was.
Do you think they were having aparty where they were it was
like a multi-level marketingselling of some product party?
CHRISY (16:33):
It wasn't a selling thing, it was an experience.
Okay.
Again, this is so weird.
Everybody there was at theunderstanding.
I don't know if she was somesort of psychic.
Okay.
Or but it I didn't see anyfortunes being told.
And I just remember she hadinteraction with my grandmother.
Okay.
(16:54):
Who had pretty much was legallyblind.
Now, that doesn't mean shecouldn't see anything.
Her her blindmother was mygrandmother was legally blind.
Okay.
So she she could see shadowsand things like that.
She was a very um bad diabetic.
Okay.
And in that time period, didn'thave all the treatments we have
now.
Thank, you know, thank goodnessfor treatments and uh, you
(17:15):
know, all of that.
But so this woman did somethingwith my grandmother, and it was
explained then that mygrandmother all of a sudden had
clear sight.
From that day forward.
No.
Oh, just during the time.
Just within a moment.
And the one thing she was likeyelling, and this is a little tr
traumatic for me.
Yeah.
She wanted them to bring me toher.
Oh.
(17:35):
Because her sight probably wasreally bad by the time I came on
this evening.
Right.
And I did spend a lot of timewith her because she would
babysit me before I kind of wentto school.
So they kind of like dragged meover there.
I mean, this sounds a littlebit like Rosemary's baby.
I mean, it's a little bitweird.
It's just it's a little scary.
And they had to put me in frontof my grandmother, and she like
was caressing, you know, myhead, and my according to her,
(17:58):
she could finally have a clearpicture of what I looked like.
Wow.
Wow.
Yeah.
Wild, weird.
Wow, why am I here?
Wow, what's everybody drinking?
Wow, why did this happen?
So I was looking this up.
Okay.
Because I was like, is thissomething that was going on in
(18:19):
the 70s?
Did you hear about the keyparties?
Yeah.
People were swap wives.
Uh-huh.
I'm like, is this some otherweird kind of what did you find?
Well, there is something thatmentions that there is like a
time period where in the 70s itwas like considered a feminist
spirituality movement.
Wow.
(18:40):
Where the people would womenwould get together, I guess.
Goddess worship, womenparticipated in rituals and
worship that honored the divinefeminine.
KERRY (18:49):
Um this sounds like a Wiccan party.
DJ NICK (18:52):
Yeah, but I don't know that your grandmother was up to
that with that stuff.
CHRISY (18:55):
No, but she probably heard, or somebody who was uh
able to convince her that thisis something she should do.
So somebody else probably hadan experience with this.
Right.
And so That's how it starts.
KERRY (19:09):
It's like a chain letter.
Yeah.
CHRISY (19:11):
And they're like, you know, you really should see if
this is something that wouldmean something to you.
KERRY (19:16):
Literally.
CHRISY (19:17):
And she should see.
And they're like, okay, yeah,so I'm gonna go to the show.
KERRY (19:19):
I'm getting it.
CHRISY (19:21):
So I'm saying you should see.
You should see you will see.
KERRY (19:28):
You will see.
That's what I'm saying.
CHRISY (19:33):
Listen to me, Grace.
Listen to what I'm saying.
I'm still freaking out aboutthis all these years, like 50
years, 49 years old.
KERRY (19:41):
We remember going in front of your grandmother and
her being like, I see you.
CHRISY (19:46):
Yeah, it was it was freaky.
KERRY (19:48):
Wow.
CHRISY (19:48):
And it's not to say anything negative about the
other children that were in hergroup of grandchildren.
I think it was just because Iwas the last one.
KERRY (19:57):
And she had never really seen me.
CHRISY (19:58):
And she had never really seen me as much as you know.
Right.
I don't even remember if mysisters were at the party or my
cousins.
I don't remember.
KERRY (20:06):
You were too traumatized by the fact that this happened.
You blocked everything outexcept for that.
Yeah, it was just it was Andthere was probably no TV there,
so you had to participate.
CHRISY (20:14):
Well, yeah, there were rules back then, like if you had
so many people in the house,the TV had to be off, you know,
type thing, I think.
Yeah.
Well, that's up.
No, no TV.
And it was in the evening, solike no Sesame Street, which was
really lousy, but no Gilligan'sIsland, no Jetsons.
So this was really weird.
And I can only imagine that itmaybe had something to do with
(20:34):
this.
Like there was a woman who waslike, you know, really uh, you
know, checking into her feminineside and sort of promoted that
she had these capabilities tosort of help people.
Yeah.
So it's in that psychic group.
Yeah, you know.
KERRY (20:48):
Yeah.
CHRISY (20:48):
But interesting.
Yeah.
KERRY (20:50):
Yeah, I'd have nothing to correlate to that one.
It's weird.
CHRISY (20:55):
I don't either.
Somebody, please.
Why was I involved in theseweird things?
Because you're special.
I'm so special.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Please, anybody out there whokind of has any idea at all as
to what I experienced, I sowelcome your input, please.
KERRY (21:14):
It sounds like one of those things that used to see.
Like, I'm sure there was anepisode like on Little House in
a Prairie.
I know, like, I think PeachDragon has a scene of this or
whatever where there's theperson that comes through town
and does the miracles, you know,and they get people to, you
know, like, you know, all comearound and oh, they're healed.
And the person gets up andwalks and kind of like, you know
(21:35):
what I'm talking about?
DJ NICK (21:36):
A snake oil salesman.
CHRISY (21:37):
Yeah.
KERRY (21:38):
Yeah, exactly.
DJ NICK (21:39):
It's like the Michael Jackson Say Say Say video with
uh Paul McCartney.
CHRISY (21:43):
Oh, where they pretend to be healed.
Yeah, they're selling elixir.
KERRY (21:47):
Elixirs, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Yeah.
So I wonder what elixirs theywere digging during that party.
Yeah, I don't know what wasgoing on.
CHRISY (21:56):
I don't even know why we were like uh involved in this.
And I really I It was a girl'snight out.
It was a girl's night outinstead of like the lamest
girls' night out.
Girls' night in with no men atthe house.
It just didn't seem it seemedlike you kind of think if this
is what women are doing whenthey're getting together, I mean
this is ridiculous.
(22:17):
You guys need to play bridge orsomething.
I don't know what the hell'sgoing on.
This is lame.
It was weird, it was veryweird.
KERRY (22:25):
Yeah, I'm sure that there was a lot that I was secondhand
to witness, but I it's beentrumped by all the firsthand
dysfunction I had to experience.
CHRISY (22:34):
So well, I can understand that.
KERRY (22:36):
Yeah, I get it.
CHRISY (22:37):
So yeah, my my stuff's a lot of witnessing.
Not that things didn't directlyhappen to me.
We've discussed already, andI'm sure we will discuss more as
time goes on.
But yeah, I mean, your familydidn't have some weird stuff
going on.
You had a lot of family, waybigger than me.
Is it I had such smaller numberand they were that kind of
weird.
KERRY (22:57):
You would think that there's directing these
questions over at DJ Next.
CHRISY (23:01):
Yeah, there'd be more weirdness in numbers.
Like he had the percent of thecity.
KERRY (23:05):
The opportunity would be more, right?
I hear you.
Uh-oh.
He's he's moving his seat, he'sgetting in close.
DJ NICK (23:11):
I really can't think of anything.
Yeah, like and nothing on theorder of that.
KERRY (23:16):
Yeah, really.
Just you.
Chrissy's good at herobservation skills.
DJ NICK (23:22):
This is so I really can't think of any.
I mean, I'm there's there'splenty of nuttiness in the
group, but you know, but uhthat's all right.
CHRISY (23:33):
Well, here's another real quick story good because it
came up the other day, and Idon't know why.
But when we were talking aboutthe fair.
KERRY (23:40):
The Can't Feel Fair, yeah.
CHRISY (23:41):
The Can Phil Fair and just fairs in general.
Yeah.
And this is gonna date a lot ofthings.
Uh, but we're talking about the70s, so but this was actually
in the 80s.
A weird thing I I witnessed andthen was forced to participate
in is that this performer, acomedian, Red Skelton.
Oh yeah.
If nobody knows who I'm talkingabout.
KERRY (23:58):
I know he's I served him dinner.
What when he was at the fair?
When he was at the fair.
CHRISY (24:02):
Oh my god!
KERRY (24:03):
You get it.
I know it.
Okay, so he was at the fair.
Explain to listeners who maynot know who Red Skelton is.
CHRISY (24:08):
He was a comedian and an actor.
Yeah.
DJ NICK (24:10):
I would say he had a variety show of his own.
Yeah.
Was it late 60s, early 70s?
CHRISY (24:15):
Might be before that.
Okay.
I mean, just uh and he had acertain character.
Freddie the Freeloader was thecharacter he sort of played.
He was a Freemason, which nowinvolved my father.
KERRY (24:26):
Yes.
CHRISY (24:26):
And he was the highest degree Freemason, which is 33rd,
I believe.
Okay.
My father was 32nd.
Oh, admirer of 33rd degreemasons and admirer of Red Skill.
And then I have a littlefondness for him because I
enjoyed watching his stoke,because my father would watch
them.
So I liked watching those withhim.
So he performed at the CanfieldFair.
Yes, he did.
And we had tickets to see that,and my mother was there.
(24:48):
My father used to do securityand stuff a lot for the fair.
So I think he was already kindof there, but behind the scenes
type thing.
KERRY (24:55):
Your dad might have been the cop that escorted me over
with his Red Skelton's dinner.
You never know.
Could be six degrees ofseparation.
You never know.
CHRISY (25:04):
I don't know what happened with my mom.
She like lost her mind, but theshow was over.
And my mother dragged me.
A lot of times my mother woulddrag me places and tell me we we
need to do this.
This being one of thosesituations.
We jumped the fence to get tohis trailer.
KERRY (25:18):
Yeah, because his trailer was on the inside of the track.
Yeah.
CHRISY (25:21):
Oh god.
KERRY (25:23):
Did you make it through the trailer?
CHRISY (25:24):
Oh, yeah.
Oh.
And she forced us in.
Very nice.
You know, we didn't get jumpedor anything.
It was horrific.
This is the guy.
And then she's like, you know,oh, Chrissy, it's a skeleton.
Don't you know what I mean?
Okay.
Why did we just commit whatseems to be a crime?
KERRY (25:47):
So you actually got to his trailer to the door.
Did you get inside the trailer?
You were in the trailer.
Yeah.
And he was in there?
Yeah.
CHRISY (25:58):
It was after his show.
It was so wrong.
Why are you taking this?
I probably try and think.
Do you remember how old youwere?
Because that will help meremember how old.
Yeah, 10?
KERRY (26:09):
Oh no.
Eight or ten.
Oh no.
I was because I was working theI was working the food stand
that was underneath thegrandstand and I was 14.
CHRISY (26:17):
Oh my God.
Were we really that old?
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
I should have known better.
I should have said you go.
Why was I?
Why did I get pulled out of thecity?
KERRY (26:25):
Yeah, because I think the youngest you at that time, the
youngest you could be to work atthe work, because I worked for
a concession company and theyowned all the concession stands
that were underneath thegrandstand there.
It was my first year.
I was old enough to work there.
And so I know I was 14.
CHRISY (26:39):
Oh my gosh.
KERRY (26:40):
Yeah.
So and it was that would havebeen You really I feel even more
ridiculous now.
CHRISY (26:46):
I really wish you wouldn't.
Because I'm like, yeah, whatwere we?
Like eight or ten?
No.
Oh my gosh.
Mm-hmm.
I really needed a place to goback home.
KERRY (26:55):
So I was just like, I can't believe so your mom and
you jumped the fence.
Well, she dragged me.
I know, but what I'm saying isphysically had to go over the
fence.
CHRISY (27:04):
Yeah, there was no way for you to get to them after
they were.
KERRY (27:07):
I wish I could have seen Jane O'Cup to the fence.
CHRISY (27:10):
She's like, we'll just go over this way.
I'm like, but that looksdangerous.
DJ NICK (27:14):
No.
So I'm looking this up, and itsays he performed at the
Canfield Fair in 1975.
KERRY (27:21):
No, no.
No, he did it.
No.
He did it anymore.
He did it.
He did another one because ithas to be.
It's in the 80s.
He may have been the openingperformer for something else or
whatever, but no, he was therebecause I yes, because my mom
had explained to me.
And at the time, I was like,Oh, I don't.
I said I came home and I went,Mom, I got to serve dinner to
(27:42):
this guy, you know, that he wasthe performer.
His name is Red Skelton.
She goes, Oh, he's like aclown.
That was how she described himto me.
Meaning, like, you know, acomic.
Are you sure you're not seeingthat?
No, I'm she there's there's hewas definitely there because
that was the only summer that Iworked the Campfield Fair
because after that is when I wasin that traveling band and
(28:05):
going to high school andeverything.
So I only worked for the fairone summer, and it was that
summer.
DJ NICK (28:10):
But I'm wondering if he he was there in 75 also.
KERRY (28:13):
Maybe that's oh he may have very well been.
Oh, sure.
DJ NICK (28:15):
Maybe that's you were three years old and she was
dragging you into a trailer.
KERRY (28:20):
No, for some reason I feel like No, I bet you it was
this time because yeah.
Uh-huh.
So what year would the betwould that if we were 14 and we
were born in 72, what does thatmake it?
86.
86, yeah.
CHRISY (28:32):
Um, just trying to read on this.
DJ NICK (28:34):
Maybe I was maybe it was 13 then because it was
before Yeah, the only one that'spopping up is his perform that
would have been 50 years ago.
He was he was at the campus.
KERRY (28:44):
Yeah.
He he was definitely, but likeI said, maybe he wasn't the main
performer, maybe he was like alike I said, an opener or
something, but he was definitelythere.
So yeah, I it's weird becauseit's really kind of hard to see
here, but yeah, he wasdefinitely No, it was definitely
because I remember they we heordered his dinner, we took him
(29:07):
the steak hoagie sandwiches andFrench fries, and I think we
even took him a funnel cake.
We had to take that, and Iremember they had a cop that
came and walked us.
We had to walk across the trackover to the inside.
I can see his trailer andeverything that we went to, and
I remember handing it to him,and he was like very sweet and
everything, but I was just like,This is an old man, I don't
(29:28):
know who this is, you know.
And so when I went home, I'mlike, I don't know, I got picked
to go take Red Skelton.
My mom's like, Oh, that'sreally good.
Yeah, he's he's like a he'slike a clown, and I'm like, he
didn't look like he was dressedlike a clown.
Yeah, no, he wasn't.
In my mind, I'm thinking clown,right?
Oh yeah, but yeah, he was acomic.
CHRISY (29:45):
Yeah, he was, but he had a the Freddie the Freeloader
was a clown type uh character hedid.
And I'm betting if my father,because he did work the fair
security a lot, yeah, heprobably requested an Pretty
much forced himself on thatdetail.
That detail, yeah.
Because he really admired him.
So but yeah, it was a littlebit humiliating.
KERRY (30:08):
But that's funny that our lives crossed.
CHRISY (30:11):
Probably we'll find out as with time goes on.
More than that.
KERRY (30:14):
More than that, yeah.
So that is really interesting.
So we want to hear yourstories.
What things did you witness?
CHRISY (30:22):
Uh the things did your parents drag you over fences
for.
Stop drop and roll.
KERRY (30:32):
Hey, in the meantime, we just want to remind all of you
that in the month of October,Junkies Care is supporting the
United Way of Wayne and Holmescounties in Worcester, Ohio.
They do a fabulous job ofsupporting many different
organizations in the communityfrom the Salvation Army,
Goodwill, the Dolly PartonImagination Library.
(30:52):
They also help with emergencysheltering and so much more.
So we really want to give ashout out to them.
We are sponsors for their Heartand Goal 2025 5K and one mile
spooky sprint that's going to beon Saturday, October 25th in
the historic downtown Worcesterarea.
Chrissy and I will be there.
We're still working on ourcostumes, but we will be there.
(31:15):
I'm gonna probably try to runin the race and we'll be there.
Hope to meet any of you, all ofyou that come out and support
this great organization.
Yes.
CHRISY (31:23):
Thank you.
KERRY (31:23):
In the meantime, if you ever have any questions about
dysfunction junkies, want to seewhere we're going to be, who
we're supporting, or want toread our blog.
I have my blog on there that'scalled The Elephant Speaks.
Chrissy's working on her blogadding to it, but that all can
be found on our website, whichis dysfunction junkies
podcast.com.
Yes.
Alrighty, everyone.
See you next time.
CHRISY (31:44):
Bye, everybody.
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