July 2, 2025 • 25 mins
Why are summer family gatherings sometimes easier to handle than winter ones? As we discover in this raw and revealing episode, it might simply be because you can escape to the backyard when things get tense. But even with more exit strategies, Fourth of July celebrations can still produce lasting trauma.
Whether you're dreading family gatherings this holiday weekend or looking forward to them, this episode validates your experiences while offering both serious reflection and much-needed laughter. Join our dysfunction family and discover you're not alone in navigating the complicated emotions that come with celebration traditions.
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DJ Nick (00:07):
Welcome to the Dysfunction Junkies podcast.
We may not have seen it all butwe've seen enough.
And now here are your hosts,Chrisy and Kerry.
Kerry (00:20):
Hello Junkies, I'm Kerry
Chrisy (00:23):
and I'm Chrisy.
Kerry (00:24):
Happy Fourth of July weekend.
Chrisy (00:27):
Oh no, I mean yes.
Happy 4th of July.
Kerry (00:32):
What better thing to talk about is the summer family get
together of the 4th of July?
Chrisy (00:39):
I guess Some people might think it's better to get
it together with friends, but Ithink that might be true of a
lot of family holiday typethings yeah.
Kerry (00:49):
We were talking a little bit before the show, but we were
saying that the one nice thingabout the summer family get
togethers is you can get awayfrom each other To some extent.
Yeah.
Chrisy (00:59):
I feel and I'm sure that people listening might say not
true that they've seen somehorrific things happen during
the summer holiday get togethers, I have no doubt, but just
personal experience I feel like,because you're not confined
inside somewhere, that it seemslike the at least on my part
less, less problems.
Kerry (01:21):
Yeah, definitely, I do remember that it was.
I always enjoyed the summerfamily get togethers better than
the ones in the, you knowNovember, december, and it was
because I could get away, Icould escape, I could hide, I
could whatever I had to do.
But I didn't have those optionswhen we were stuck in the snow
in the house and stuff like that.
So, but I get it, there wasstill drama, oh sure, oh yeah,
(01:43):
absolutely my best 4th of Julymemory, one of my earliest 4th
of July memories, is we were outsitting around the picnic table
having you know 4th of Julyfood and watermelon and all the
wonderful things.
My grandmother was a smoker soI'm sure she enjoyed coming to
the family holiday in the summerbecause she could smoke outside
but she couldn't smoke in thehouse, so she was puffing away
(02:05):
out there.
But I do remember she waspissed off about something and I
don't know, maybe she waspissed off at me, I don't know,
but somehow I was sitting nextto her and I remember her being
mad and I remember she took thatcigarette and put it right on
my hand Are you kidding me?
I'm not kidding you.
And the ashtray was kind ofnearby and she was like oh, I'm
sorry, I meant to put that outin the ashtray, but no, she put
(02:28):
it out on my hand, that is rightout of that Sybil TV show.
Yep, that is crazy, that is myfirst 4th of July.
Chrisy (02:35):
memory Did nobody like say what the hell, mom?
What the hell did you like yourone of your parents or Nope?
Who else saw her do this?
Kerry (02:42):
Everyone at the table.
Chrisy (02:43):
Carrie, you had to have a serious burn on your hand.
Kerry (02:45):
I did for the longest time.
Actually, I should look and see.
For the longest time you couldstill see it.
It's kind of probably grown outor covered with age spots now,
but yeah, for the longest timeyou could always see that spot
on my hand, I know.
Chrisy (02:57):
What do you think she was mad at you?
Your grandchild, how can you bethat mad at somebody?
I?
Kerry (03:03):
don't know what she was.
I really, and I don't know, shemight've been mad at my mom, I
have no idea.
I don't remember that part.
It was overridden by thepiercing pain and me as a child,
just I just remember sittingthere and it hurt but I, for
whatever reason, also knew don'treact, you know.
(03:25):
So I just sat there how do younot react?
And I went.
I remember going into the houseand putting a cold cloth and
then I found a closet to cry inor something.
No one came to find me, no onecame to look after me.
Chrisy (03:34):
I don't, I don't know this is one of the, and we've
talked about some prettyhorrible things yeah as far as
just like shit that's happened.
Kerry (03:41):
Yeah, this has got to be up there.
Yeah, as far as just like shitdysfunction yeah, this has got
to be up there.
Chrisy (03:44):
Yeah, no wonder I'm effed up yeah, so I the fact
that you're able to say that ingeneral you don't remember the
the summer ones being bad.
Kerry (03:54):
This is pretty bad I know , but that was, but I, but this
is what I'm saying.
This was my first big memory offourth of july and I think
after that I pretty much alwayswell, I never sat next to
Grandma again whenever she wassmoking.
Chrisy (04:07):
Hell, no, hell, no.
She walked around what do youmean?
Like she wasn't in a wheelchairor anything.
Kerry (04:12):
Oh, God, no, no, she was physically able yeah.
Chrisy (04:15):
Oh.
Kerry (04:16):
This is the same one who drove made me drive drunk Right
when she was drunk Right.
Chrisy (04:21):
Yes, Same person I was just going to say after the
cigarette thing I would have ifshe was in a wheelchair, I would
have found a fairly steep hilland took grandma for a walk and
then like whoops, just like whenyou put the cigarette out on my
hand.
Whoops, I didn't yeah.
Kerry (04:36):
I'll never forget that when she did it, I and she did
it, I'm telling you it was.
It had to been on purpose,because it wasn't like, oh my
God, and grab the child and no,it was kind of like, oh oopsie,
I meant to put that in the.
Did she have like dementia oranything?
No, but she had.
She had OK, no, no, she wasfully aware of what she was
doing Wow, yeah, again with the.
Chrisy (04:57):
This is my new thing as well.
I say wow a lot because younever cease to amaze me, I have
to say wow, you never knew howscrewed up of a life.
Kerry (05:06):
I was.
I was behind this picture,perfect image that my family set
up.
Chrisy (05:10):
You were really good at giving me this beautiful picture
, I know, but to give you credit, it's not like you.
It did not appear to me thatyou were like phony or trying to
create some persona that wasn'tthere, right?
I find you to be a very honestand very real person.
Yeah, I guess probably just allof this trauma and dysfunction
(05:30):
that you had experiencedbasically trained you how you
could still blend and functioninto normal yes, without being
recognized.
Kerry (05:38):
Yes, you are very right, I am very right.
Actually, what I was trying tofind is, as you were talking,
you said something there.
That was it.
I wrote something down earlierand I'll see if I can find it.
It's because of that that you100%.
I've learned how to gounnoticed with without I don't
know.
Yeah.
Chrisy (05:56):
Hiding in plain sight.
There you go, yeah, yeah, I I'mTop.
That played in sight.
There you go, yeah, yeah, I'mtop that, chrissy Go.
I can't, I can't.
Fourth of July was generallyfine.
Now, I didn't make this in mynotes, but just hearing you, yes
, I'm trying to remember summer,like from a long time ago, and
probably this is a Fourth ofJuly story or maybe just in
(06:18):
general, a summer picnic.
But going along with the theme,I do remember getting scolded
by my father and sent to my room.
See, this is like I sound likea total dork now.
I was just like Carrie gotburnt with a cigarette, but now
I'm going to tell you how mydaddy yelled at me for making
obnoxious noises at the table.
So we were eating, we hadfriends over my parents' friends
, and they had a son that waslike my age and we were sitting
(06:43):
at the picnic table eating ourpicnic.
Yeah, and we had beans and meand this uh friend were
commenting about uh beans andhow lovely they are and what
they make you do, okay.
So, and we were like probablyfour or five years old remember
we were.
We were very young, okay, but wejust took it to the level of
(07:04):
just making fart noises whileeverybody else was trying to eat
and my father had had enough,had enough, and I think he got
up and then he, you know, hesaid that's, I had just dad
standing up and looking at me.
Oh yeah, I knew that was my goto your room, Right.
Kerry (07:22):
So I had to leave.
Chrisy (07:23):
So there's one, but he didn't put a cigarette out on me
or anything like that.
Kerry (07:28):
And this is not meant to be oh, my trauma is better or
worse than yours, or one upping.
You know it's all relative toour experiences.
So your dad giving you that,look, I mean that's serious.
You know, it's just different.
It's just different ways wegrew up and how we process
things.
Chrisy (07:47):
Yeah, you should have really started with your story
and then went to Chris, I meanwent to Carrie's story.
Kerry (07:51):
You want to start over?
No.
Yeah, because then it would belike I was trying to run off.
Oh no, I'm not.
Well, so that I remember.
I remember you had something inyour show notes about being
burned though, or not beingburned.
Chrisy (08:08):
Well, I never as as destructive as I was with
friends yes and other playmates.
And you would think the fourthof july equals fire and things
that are warm and hot anddangerous.
I don't remember ever burningor catching anyone on fire.
Kerry (08:26):
Well, that's good.
Good job, Chrissy, good start.
Because of the sparklers andeverything yeah, we love those,
but we did have the sparklers.
I would do remember that.
No, I never got burned by that.
That would have made like moresense to get burned by.
Chrisy (08:39):
But well, to some extent depends on the situation If you
actually just like ran intosomebody with a sparkler, but
somebody sticking it on yourskin purposely.
Yeah, exactly, and then oh wow,but yeah.
So another memory I have of theFourth of July that was out of
the norm, where we weren't likejust hanging out with swimming
and you know, having a good timewith a picnic was.
(09:03):
We went to a baseball game onthe 4th of July and it was the
Cleveland Indians and the TexasRangers on the 4th of July
during a 4th of July, that waslike a day game.
Yeah, yeah, it was during theday and it was a billion degrees
out.
Kerry (09:19):
And you know how?
Chrisy (09:20):
first of all, we're in a place where there's a lot of
people and it would require meto sit around other people and
yeah, and they're generatingheat without even trying,
because now it's just like abillion degrees out.
And I remember being veryhostile.
Can you believe it?
I was hostile about having to bethere because I'm not even a
really big baseball fan to watchit.
(09:42):
If you watch the kids playbaseball or, like my husband,
used to be in a men's softballleague, that was fun.
I could like sit and watch thatand enjoy it very much.
Kerry (09:51):
Jim and I love a good baseball game.
We could sit and watch baseballall the time.
Chrisy (09:54):
Well, that's wonderful.
And my husband?
I think my husband enjoysbaseball, but he definitely
appreciates football a littlebit more.
Kerry (10:02):
But you, also don't like when people create heat.
No, I just don't you mentionedthis before when we were talking
about concerts, about peopleneed to sit down, don't generate
heat.
Chrisy (10:10):
Yes, yes, so I think I don't even remember really
sitting in my seat that much.
I remember kind of getting up alot and leaving.
Kerry (10:18):
Refreshments.
Chrisy (10:19):
Well, I think I smoked at the time and so you had to
get up and but I didn't put mycigarette out on anybody.
I really should have thoughtabout doing that.
It sounds like it could be agood time, I don't know.
That's, it's horrible.
I'm sorry, I don't mean to makelight of that?
Kerry (10:34):
no, you can't.
It's 100.
That's what this is our safeplace.
We talk about things.
Chrisy (10:38):
We find humor in the dysfunction it's okay, god love
you for finding humor with that,because that is just.
I remember one time I I had asomeone, we who smoked also, we
were sort of going out orsomething, and when, back in the
day, when we used to wearpantyhose yeah, they were
keeping track of their hand withtheir cigarette and they
accidentally put an ash near meand it hit my pantyhose.
(11:01):
And you nobody who wearspantyhose anymore or most people
don't smoke anymore either,thank goodness.
Hot ash on a pantyhose, itshreds immediately, it's done.
And then I was just veryhostile and angry again, because
you know, when someone messesup, my look it's like all over.
Yeah, exactly that's the onlytime I remember being hurt by a
cigarette.
Kerry (11:27):
You know it's sad that I have to do this disclaimer, but
these are my stories and myexperiences.
Much like what you're talkingabout is your stories and your
experiences, and it's not somuch about talking bad about
things that people that arerelated to us have done, it's
our experiences, so we can talkabout these things and I've had
people kind of get upset with meabout, well, you're sharing
(11:47):
things that happened about ourfamily and it's like, no, I'm
sharing what happened to me,right?
So if you don't like it, turnit off, don't listen.
This is my therapy, my safespace, chrissy's therapy, her
safe space.
We're talking about whathappened to us, how it's
affected us, moving on, andwe're hoping that maybe some of
you listening can find somethingto relate to and realize you
(12:08):
know, hey, yeah, we've all comefrom some sort of dysfunction
and that maybe this will helpyou get past it, find some humor
in it, be able to move on,release that energy, negativity,
hostility, and find a place ofhealing to move on.
So there's my disclaimer forthe show.
Chrisy (12:23):
Yeah, and I think it helps to know that certain
things are not something thatyou share solely on your own,
that they're similar experiences.
It's perceived and experienceddifferently because we're all
individuals.
Yeah, we don't ever try toassume or presume what the other
person who might've been withus during this experience was
(12:46):
feeling or thinking Right, and Ihope we don't ever accidentally
speak for them, because wecertainly don't mean to do that.
Kerry (12:52):
This is my perceptions.
What happened to me in thatmoment?
My memory, my whatever.
And yes, I felt like thisperson did this on purpose, just
because of how active.
But you never know, maybe itwas truly an accident and they
just didn't know how to respondto it in a more compassionate,
empathetic way.
Chrisy (13:08):
I don't know that it is an accident.
I feel differently, but that'sjust my opinion, because it just
seems fairly purposeful.
But yeah, well, you know, Idon't know that this will ever
come up again and I hate thisside segue.
That's okay segue all you want.
I have a funny story about nowthat we're talking about
(13:29):
cigarettes oh god, chris.
Kerry (13:32):
So we never know where these shows are gonna go.
Chrisy (13:34):
We come up with a topic and then boom because there was
something that was ridiculousthat I did.
It was all on me for the mostpart, so I was out being bad at
a probably an age that youshouldn't be doing these things.
Are we talking teens, 20s?
Kerry (13:51):
Yeah, we're talking teens .
Chrisy (13:53):
And I was headed into a night spot and I had already
sort of been enjoying myselfprior to getting there, Okay.
So it was a little bit in myclear mind and I remember
getting walking across thestreet to get into the place we
were going and I realized atthat moment that I no longer had
my purse.
(14:13):
Oh, and so I was like where'dmy purse go?
What happened to my purse?
And I turn around and it'slaying in the middle of the
street and I was like stared fora minute at my purse and I'm
like, oh my God, this is justlike Sounds like so out of a
movie, like a most ridiculousmovie, and I swear I'm not lying
.
At that moment, when I realizedmy purse was in the middle of
the street, in my mind, mymemory, it probably wasn't a big
(14:36):
truck, but a huge truck camealong, Rolled over my purse.
So now I had to go.
I'm like, oh my God, and I hadlike a big tire.
And it probably was a big purse,because back in the day we had
big purses, it was not only big,but it was like this stupid
shiny patent, like lookingthings that were sort of popular
(14:59):
.
So it really showed off thetire mark, oh my gosh.
So I grabbed my purse and I hadcigarettes in my purse, of
course.
So now my cigarette's flat, butwhen you're that age with a
pack of cigarettes, you're notgonna let them go to waste.
Oh my god, well broke mylighter with the rolled over.
So when we got to where wewanted to be and we're sitting
(15:21):
at the bar, I had to ask them togive me matches to light my
cigarette, my flat cigarette,because my leg no longer works.
So I went, my buddy and we'resitting there and we're trying
to act like we're cool likeeverything's normal me with my
underage, no bar smoking.
(15:42):
My purse with my tire mark on itand my flat marbles and uh, now
I got a box of, uh, whateveryou called, what did they used
to call the things of matches abook.
Is that called a book ofmatches?
Yeah, I guess yeah, so I'msitting there and of course I'm
not in my right state of mindcompletely anyhow because you
had pre-gamed or had roadies onthe way yeah, we had fun before
(16:06):
we got there so I'm talking tomy friend and we're just talking
and I go to light my cigarettewith a match.
Big mistake.
And remember this is 80s hair,oh no.
So I was talking to her and Ilit my cigarette and you had to
suck on it harder than normalbecause of course it's flat now
so it's not real easy to get itmoving and going.
And I kind of didn't realize.
(16:27):
I didn't put my match out.
So I'm like leaning and I likecaught my hair on fire and my
girlfriend proceeded to beat thehell out of me at the door
Because she had to put me out.
Kerry (16:46):
Oh, my God.
Chrisy (16:47):
So, and I was offended, she smacked me and and my hair
is all, I just tuck it behindyou.
Oh, my god, my hair.
I worked so hard on.
Kerry (16:59):
That is completely dysfunctional.
Every, every manner of it.
It was great.
I'm sure we all have stories ofcatching our hair on fire,
doing dumb things Like oh my God, we didn't want to.
Chrisy (17:17):
We covered this episode, which is really about
dysfunction with cigarettes, asthe fourth of July, but maybe we
need to.
Well, let's start talking aboutthe other thing that we do with
fire on, unless you know, gofor it.
Kerry (17:33):
The fireworks, yeah, fireworks.
So did your family always gosee fireworks?
No, we we were.
Chrisy (17:40):
I came from a group of men that felt it was fun and
manly to set up our own, our ownfirework display.
So, no, I don't really remembergoing purposely and seeing
fireworks.
Kerry (17:54):
Well, we would always go see fireworks and I think it's
probably because we didn't haveenough money to buy our own, you
know.
So we would go places.
So one of the high schoolsalways had like a big firework
show.
So, we did that for years,until the one year at the high
school in Austintown.
We were there and we weresitting, you know, and usually
before the big show starts, likeevery 10 minutes, they'll shoot
(18:18):
a firework up, like you knowit's like kind of letting people
know it's coming, it's coming,you know, whatever.
And so we're sitting there, blah, blah, blah.
Well, we were sitting in theseseats and as they were shooting
these you, you know individualones up, for whatever reason, my
mom and dad decided to move uptwo more rows.
So we did, we moved up two morerows.
I don't, I don't know why, Idon't know if it was, oh, as
(18:38):
they were shooting up, oh, if wego up two more rows a little
better, I don't know so, anyways, the firework show starts and
within like a minute or two ofthe fireworks starting,
something went bad.
Uh, fireworks went rogue,something happened, and one of
the fireworks starting somethingwent bad.
Fireworks went rogue, somethinghappened, and one of the
fireworks went wrong and it shotup and landed right where we
were sitting, and luckily nobodyelse had taken those seats.
(19:01):
So if we wouldn't have moved,it would have landed on, either
like my dad, my mom or myself,and so that was it.
We never, from then on, if wewent and saw fireworks, we like
parked somewhere and you watchedit from afar.
Yeah, so, yeah, that ended thefireworks thing.
And then when, whenever, goingback to our New Year's episode,
(19:21):
moving out to Las Vegas,fireworks was equivalent to
people shooting guns, so yeah,I'm never, I'm no, just don't
usually go anymore.
Chrisy (19:31):
So when you're you're 4th of July is now you don't
make it a point to go seefireworks.
Kerry (19:36):
No, the most I'll see is sometimes at our farm where we
live now.
There's a fairgrounds just acouple miles away, and so from
our upstairs bedroom we can seethat, so we'll go and watch from
there, but to go specificallyto watch fireworks, no.
Chrisy (19:49):
Well, I wonder if you're actually seeing, because more
and more recently the nicefamily that I work for they were
in the past.
It's been a while now sincethey have done this, but for the
longest time they always had avery large gathering for Fourth
of July.
It was always a wonderful party.
I mean they would havewonderful food, they usually had
(20:10):
a band.
I mean it was always awonderful party.
I mean they would havewonderful food, they usually had
a band.
I mean it was a big deal Attheir house, at their house
which is actually not far fromwhere you are.
Kerry (20:16):
You're right, I bet you, if I look out my other window
back direction, I'll have to dothat.
Chrisy (20:21):
I don't know if they still do it.
They might.
But they used to invite a lotof the people from the company
to participate in thesewonderful parties and they were
wonderful and their fireworksdisplay.
I think probably because theywere friendly with the family.
Kerry (20:34):
That I think sells fireworks, which helps our area.
Chrisy (20:38):
And they had.
Their display was just as good,if, in my opinion, sometimes
better I'm sure if you wouldhave went somewhere and they had
people there that knew whatthey were doing too.
But I I do understand what youmean by the fear.
Yeah, because I think, growingup with dads and people who
wanted to set off their ownfireworks now my father I don't
(20:59):
remember anything ever going badyeah, thank goodness no
fireworks gone, rogue, no, um,but that fear was always in me
because I think there were acouple of close calls, yeah, but
yeah, no, fireworks are prettyscary.
Kerry (21:14):
They are my husband.
Chrisy (21:14):
I don't think he really cares that much for fireworks.
Kerry (21:17):
No, because when we started, dating and earlier on.
Chrisy (21:21):
I would like to.
I wouldn't mind going to seehim because it's something to do
.
Kerry (21:25):
Yeah.
Chrisy (21:26):
He was never like in a real hurry to run out the door
to go see fireworks.
Kerry (21:30):
I, you know it's weird is I mean I enjoy, I mean it's
nice to watch and everythingagain from afar.
But what I really like are theones that are not even like
colorful displays, but it's justthe big boom where it's just
you see a flash of light andthen it's just like cannon boom,
that, like vibrates, that youlike that that's those are my
favorite ones.
And it's not like I said.
(21:51):
It's not even something.
You see, it's, it's you feel itso now, I don't like that.
Chrisy (21:57):
That just sounds terrible and, of course, if you
know anything about mypersonality, I'm sitting there
and it never ceases to cross.
You know it always crosses.
My mind is this is probably badfor the earth.
Kerry (22:09):
Oh, I will.
Yes, I will say, that is I.
One of the things I do have areal issue with is the fireworks
, because of the animals and thebirds, and all of that I didn't
think of the.
Chrisy (22:21):
I was just thinking of, like the gas or whatever it's
putting off into the atmosphere.
Kerry (22:25):
So I always fear for the animals too.
And then in working in animalcontrol for all those years out
in Las Vegas and Henderson area,july 5th was our busiest day of
the year because, of course,all the people that think it's
just so great.
Well, we're going to go on apicnic and we're going to take
Fluffy with us.
Fluffy does not want to be atyour 4th of July picnic, trust
(22:46):
me.
Fluffy does not want to listento the fireworks.
You know so how many animalswould get it was it was.
It was our busiest day of theyear on loose dogs and animal
problems because of the nightbefore.
Chrisy (22:59):
Oh, yeah, they.
I'm sure they're terrified ifyou don't put them in a safe
space where you could try andshelter them from that noise and
chaos, right, yeah, oh, I haveexperienced people where we have
been, where they were doingfireworks at a friend's house or
whatever, where they'reterrified because they're afraid
their pet had run off becausesomebody hadn't secured them.
Kerry (23:21):
Right, so make sure this weekend, over the festivities,
you're locking your animals upnice and safe and tight in the
house, you know.
Put them in a bedroom, put themin a crate, whatever you need
to do.
Please make sure that they'rein there.
Put a radio on a thunder shirt,whatever you need to do to help
them.
Because, yeah, but I do alwaysworry about the birds and stuff
whenever the fireworks are goingoff.
Chrisy (23:42):
Geez, I don't even think of the birds.
Do they even know what theheck's going on?
What can they hear?
I don't know what the birds do.
I never saw a bird's ear.
Yes, what's going on there?
They do.
Kerry (23:55):
It is very disruptive in the lights and everything.
It's just like, yeah, it just.
There's so many bad things.
And then, like with our horseswhen we lived out West, they
were in a, you know, it was likea community corral where we had
a lot of the horses were keptat and I always worried because
you would always find, you know,stray firework pieces or
whatever that had somehowmanaged to get over to the
(24:17):
corrals oh sure it was likebottled yeah yeah, so usually,
even in the summertime, whenit's nice, we always bring the
horses in for that night becausewe just don't want anything
flying into the art and hittingthem.
Chrisy (24:27):
So oh jeez I know it's just a lot to think about.
I know, you know what.
Kerry (24:32):
I'm just gonna stay inside and watch a movie on the
fourth of july yeah, well, we'regetting old, so we're pretty
much probably going to be in bedby eight o'clock anyway.
So well, I'm not gonna say thatdoesn't sound horrible at all
to me, but we do hope thateverybody has a safe holiday
weekend.
You know, appreciate definitelycelebrate our freedom and
(24:52):
celebrate what it is to beAmerican, but do it as safe as
possible and keep those animalssafe.
Chrisy (24:58):
Stay away from lit cigarettes and loose fireworks,
grandma, grandma's withcigarettes.
I would stay away fromgrandma's with cigarettes.
Kerry (25:06):
That would be the title of our show Stay away from
grandma Grandma's withcigarettes.
I would stay away fromgrandma's cigarettes.
Chrisy (25:09):
That would be the title of our show Stay Away From
Grandma.
That is the perfect title.
Kerry (25:14):
All righty, everybody.
Well, please check us out onour Facebook page.
Give us some feedback on howyou celebrated your holiday
weekend.
If you have any good memoriesor bad memories whatever you
want to share about where yoursafe space, so find us at
dysfunction junkies dotbuzzsproutcom.
Bye everybody.
Happy 4th.
Happy 4th, duck and cover.
Welcome to the Dysfunction Junkies podcast.
We may not have seen it all butwe've seen enough.
And now here are your hosts,Chrisy and Kerry.
Kerry (00:20):
Hello Junkies, I'm Kerry
Chrisy (00:23):
and I'm Chrisy.
Kerry (00:24):
Happy Fourth of July weekend.
Chrisy (00:27):
Oh no, I mean yes.
Happy 4th of July.
Kerry (00:32):
What better thing to talk about is the summer family get
together of the 4th of July?
Chrisy (00:39):
I guess Some people might think it's better to get
it together with friends, but Ithink that might be true of a
lot of family holiday typethings yeah.
Kerry (00:49):
We were talking a little bit before the show, but we were
saying that the one nice thingabout the summer family get
togethers is you can get awayfrom each other To some extent.
Yeah.
Chrisy (00:59):
I feel and I'm sure that people listening might say not
true that they've seen somehorrific things happen during
the summer holiday get togethers, I have no doubt, but just
personal experience I feel like,because you're not confined
inside somewhere, that it seemslike the at least on my part
less, less problems.
Kerry (01:21):
Yeah, definitely, I do remember that it was.
I always enjoyed the summerfamily get togethers better than
the ones in the, you knowNovember, december, and it was
because I could get away, Icould escape, I could hide, I
could whatever I had to do.
But I didn't have those optionswhen we were stuck in the snow
in the house and stuff like that.
So, but I get it, there wasstill drama, oh sure, oh yeah,
(01:43):
absolutely my best 4th of Julymemory, one of my earliest 4th
of July memories, is we were outsitting around the picnic table
having you know 4th of Julyfood and watermelon and all the
wonderful things.
My grandmother was a smoker soI'm sure she enjoyed coming to
the family holiday in the summerbecause she could smoke outside
but she couldn't smoke in thehouse, so she was puffing away
(02:05):
out there.
But I do remember she waspissed off about something and I
don't know, maybe she waspissed off at me, I don't know,
but somehow I was sitting nextto her and I remember her being
mad and I remember she took thatcigarette and put it right on
my hand Are you kidding me?
I'm not kidding you.
And the ashtray was kind ofnearby and she was like oh, I'm
sorry, I meant to put that outin the ashtray, but no, she put
(02:28):
it out on my hand, that is rightout of that Sybil TV show.
Yep, that is crazy, that is myfirst 4th of July.
Chrisy (02:35):
memory Did nobody like say what the hell, mom?
What the hell did you like yourone of your parents or Nope?
Who else saw her do this?
Kerry (02:42):
Everyone at the table.
Chrisy (02:43):
Carrie, you had to have a serious burn on your hand.
Kerry (02:45):
I did for the longest time.
Actually, I should look and see.
For the longest time you couldstill see it.
It's kind of probably grown outor covered with age spots now,
but yeah, for the longest timeyou could always see that spot
on my hand, I know.
Chrisy (02:57):
What do you think she was mad at you?
Your grandchild, how can you bethat mad at somebody?
I?
Kerry (03:03):
don't know what she was.
I really, and I don't know, shemight've been mad at my mom, I
have no idea.
I don't remember that part.
It was overridden by thepiercing pain and me as a child,
just I just remember sittingthere and it hurt but I, for
whatever reason, also knew don'treact, you know.
(03:25):
So I just sat there how do younot react?
And I went.
I remember going into the houseand putting a cold cloth and
then I found a closet to cry inor something.
No one came to find me, no onecame to look after me.
Chrisy (03:34):
I don't, I don't know this is one of the, and we've
talked about some prettyhorrible things yeah as far as
just like shit that's happened.
Kerry (03:41):
Yeah, this has got to be up there.
Yeah, as far as just like shitdysfunction yeah, this has got
to be up there.
Chrisy (03:44):
Yeah, no wonder I'm effed up yeah, so I the fact
that you're able to say that ingeneral you don't remember the
the summer ones being bad.
Kerry (03:54):
This is pretty bad I know , but that was, but I, but this
is what I'm saying.
This was my first big memory offourth of july and I think
after that I pretty much alwayswell, I never sat next to
Grandma again whenever she wassmoking.
Chrisy (04:07):
Hell, no, hell, no.
She walked around what do youmean?
Like she wasn't in a wheelchairor anything.
Kerry (04:12):
Oh, God, no, no, she was physically able yeah.
Chrisy (04:15):
Oh.
Kerry (04:16):
This is the same one who drove made me drive drunk Right
when she was drunk Right.
Chrisy (04:21):
Yes, Same person I was just going to say after the
cigarette thing I would have ifshe was in a wheelchair, I would
have found a fairly steep hilland took grandma for a walk and
then like whoops, just like whenyou put the cigarette out on my
hand.
Whoops, I didn't yeah.
Kerry (04:36):
I'll never forget that when she did it, I and she did
it, I'm telling you it was.
It had to been on purpose,because it wasn't like, oh my
God, and grab the child and no,it was kind of like, oh oopsie,
I meant to put that in the.
Did she have like dementia oranything?
No, but she had.
She had OK, no, no, she wasfully aware of what she was
doing Wow, yeah, again with the.
Chrisy (04:57):
This is my new thing as well.
I say wow a lot because younever cease to amaze me, I have
to say wow, you never knew howscrewed up of a life.
Kerry (05:06):
I was.
I was behind this picture,perfect image that my family set
up.
Chrisy (05:10):
You were really good at giving me this beautiful picture
, I know, but to give you credit, it's not like you.
It did not appear to me thatyou were like phony or trying to
create some persona that wasn'tthere, right?
I find you to be a very honestand very real person.
Yeah, I guess probably just allof this trauma and dysfunction
(05:30):
that you had experiencedbasically trained you how you
could still blend and functioninto normal yes, without being
recognized.
Kerry (05:38):
Yes, you are very right, I am very right.
Actually, what I was trying tofind is, as you were talking,
you said something there.
That was it.
I wrote something down earlierand I'll see if I can find it.
It's because of that that you100%.
I've learned how to gounnoticed with without I don't
know.
Yeah.
Chrisy (05:56):
Hiding in plain sight.
There you go, yeah, yeah, I I'mTop.
That played in sight.
There you go, yeah, yeah, I'mtop that, chrissy Go.
I can't, I can't.
Fourth of July was generallyfine.
Now, I didn't make this in mynotes, but just hearing you, yes
, I'm trying to remember summer,like from a long time ago, and
probably this is a Fourth ofJuly story or maybe just in
(06:18):
general, a summer picnic.
But going along with the theme,I do remember getting scolded
by my father and sent to my room.
See, this is like I sound likea total dork now.
I was just like Carrie gotburnt with a cigarette, but now
I'm going to tell you how mydaddy yelled at me for making
obnoxious noises at the table.
So we were eating, we hadfriends over my parents' friends
, and they had a son that waslike my age and we were sitting
(06:43):
at the picnic table eating ourpicnic.
Yeah, and we had beans and meand this uh friend were
commenting about uh beans andhow lovely they are and what
they make you do, okay.
So, and we were like probablyfour or five years old remember
we were.
We were very young, okay, but wejust took it to the level of
(07:04):
just making fart noises whileeverybody else was trying to eat
and my father had had enough,had enough, and I think he got
up and then he, you know, hesaid that's, I had just dad
standing up and looking at me.
Oh yeah, I knew that was my goto your room, Right.
Kerry (07:22):
So I had to leave.
Chrisy (07:23):
So there's one, but he didn't put a cigarette out on me
or anything like that.
Kerry (07:28):
And this is not meant to be oh, my trauma is better or
worse than yours, or one upping.
You know it's all relative toour experiences.
So your dad giving you that,look, I mean that's serious.
You know, it's just different.
It's just different ways wegrew up and how we process
things.
Chrisy (07:47):
Yeah, you should have really started with your story
and then went to Chris, I meanwent to Carrie's story.
Kerry (07:51):
You want to start over?
No.
Yeah, because then it would belike I was trying to run off.
Oh no, I'm not.
Well, so that I remember.
I remember you had something inyour show notes about being
burned though, or not beingburned.
Chrisy (08:08):
Well, I never as as destructive as I was with
friends yes and other playmates.
And you would think the fourthof july equals fire and things
that are warm and hot anddangerous.
I don't remember ever burningor catching anyone on fire.
Kerry (08:26):
Well, that's good.
Good job, Chrissy, good start.
Because of the sparklers andeverything yeah, we love those,
but we did have the sparklers.
I would do remember that.
No, I never got burned by that.
That would have made like moresense to get burned by.
Chrisy (08:39):
But well, to some extent depends on the situation If you
actually just like ran intosomebody with a sparkler, but
somebody sticking it on yourskin purposely.
Yeah, exactly, and then oh wow,but yeah.
So another memory I have of theFourth of July that was out of
the norm, where we weren't likejust hanging out with swimming
and you know, having a good timewith a picnic was.
(09:03):
We went to a baseball game onthe 4th of July and it was the
Cleveland Indians and the TexasRangers on the 4th of July
during a 4th of July, that waslike a day game.
Yeah, yeah, it was during theday and it was a billion degrees
out.
Kerry (09:19):
And you know how?
Chrisy (09:20):
first of all, we're in a place where there's a lot of
people and it would require meto sit around other people and
yeah, and they're generatingheat without even trying,
because now it's just like abillion degrees out.
And I remember being veryhostile.
Can you believe it?
I was hostile about having to bethere because I'm not even a
really big baseball fan to watchit.
(09:42):
If you watch the kids playbaseball or, like my husband,
used to be in a men's softballleague, that was fun.
I could like sit and watch thatand enjoy it very much.
Kerry (09:51):
Jim and I love a good baseball game.
We could sit and watch baseballall the time.
Chrisy (09:54):
Well, that's wonderful.
And my husband?
I think my husband enjoysbaseball, but he definitely
appreciates football a littlebit more.
Kerry (10:02):
But you, also don't like when people create heat.
No, I just don't you mentionedthis before when we were talking
about concerts, about peopleneed to sit down, don't generate
heat.
Chrisy (10:10):
Yes, yes, so I think I don't even remember really
sitting in my seat that much.
I remember kind of getting up alot and leaving.
Kerry (10:18):
Refreshments.
Chrisy (10:19):
Well, I think I smoked at the time and so you had to
get up and but I didn't put mycigarette out on anybody.
I really should have thoughtabout doing that.
It sounds like it could be agood time, I don't know.
That's, it's horrible.
I'm sorry, I don't mean to makelight of that?
Kerry (10:34):
no, you can't.
It's 100.
That's what this is our safeplace.
We talk about things.
Chrisy (10:38):
We find humor in the dysfunction it's okay, god love
you for finding humor with that,because that is just.
I remember one time I I had asomeone, we who smoked also, we
were sort of going out orsomething, and when, back in the
day, when we used to wearpantyhose yeah, they were
keeping track of their hand withtheir cigarette and they
accidentally put an ash near meand it hit my pantyhose.
(11:01):
And you nobody who wearspantyhose anymore or most people
don't smoke anymore either,thank goodness.
Hot ash on a pantyhose, itshreds immediately, it's done.
And then I was just veryhostile and angry again, because
you know, when someone messesup, my look it's like all over.
Yeah, exactly that's the onlytime I remember being hurt by a
cigarette.
Kerry (11:27):
You know it's sad that I have to do this disclaimer, but
these are my stories and myexperiences.
Much like what you're talkingabout is your stories and your
experiences, and it's not somuch about talking bad about
things that people that arerelated to us have done, it's
our experiences, so we can talkabout these things and I've had
people kind of get upset with meabout, well, you're sharing
(11:47):
things that happened about ourfamily and it's like, no, I'm
sharing what happened to me,right?
So if you don't like it, turnit off, don't listen.
This is my therapy, my safespace, chrissy's therapy, her
safe space.
We're talking about whathappened to us, how it's
affected us, moving on, andwe're hoping that maybe some of
you listening can find somethingto relate to and realize you
(12:08):
know, hey, yeah, we've all comefrom some sort of dysfunction
and that maybe this will helpyou get past it, find some humor
in it, be able to move on,release that energy, negativity,
hostility, and find a place ofhealing to move on.
So there's my disclaimer forthe show.
Chrisy (12:23):
Yeah, and I think it helps to know that certain
things are not something thatyou share solely on your own,
that they're similar experiences.
It's perceived and experienceddifferently because we're all
individuals.
Yeah, we don't ever try toassume or presume what the other
person who might've been withus during this experience was
(12:46):
feeling or thinking Right, and Ihope we don't ever accidentally
speak for them, because wecertainly don't mean to do that.
Kerry (12:52):
This is my perceptions.
What happened to me in thatmoment?
My memory, my whatever.
And yes, I felt like thisperson did this on purpose, just
because of how active.
But you never know, maybe itwas truly an accident and they
just didn't know how to respondto it in a more compassionate,
empathetic way.
Chrisy (13:08):
I don't know that it is an accident.
I feel differently, but that'sjust my opinion, because it just
seems fairly purposeful.
But yeah, well, you know, Idon't know that this will ever
come up again and I hate thisside segue.
That's okay segue all you want.
I have a funny story about nowthat we're talking about
(13:29):
cigarettes oh god, chris.
Kerry (13:32):
So we never know where these shows are gonna go.
Chrisy (13:34):
We come up with a topic and then boom because there was
something that was ridiculousthat I did.
It was all on me for the mostpart, so I was out being bad at
a probably an age that youshouldn't be doing these things.
Are we talking teens, 20s?
Kerry (13:51):
Yeah, we're talking teens .
Chrisy (13:53):
And I was headed into a night spot and I had already
sort of been enjoying myselfprior to getting there, Okay.
So it was a little bit in myclear mind and I remember
getting walking across thestreet to get into the place we
were going and I realized atthat moment that I no longer had
my purse.
(14:13):
Oh, and so I was like where'dmy purse go?
What happened to my purse?
And I turn around and it'slaying in the middle of the
street and I was like stared fora minute at my purse and I'm
like, oh my God, this is justlike Sounds like so out of a
movie, like a most ridiculousmovie, and I swear I'm not lying
.
At that moment, when I realizedmy purse was in the middle of
the street, in my mind, mymemory, it probably wasn't a big
(14:36):
truck, but a huge truck camealong, Rolled over my purse.
So now I had to go.
I'm like, oh my God, and I hadlike a big tire.
And it probably was a big purse,because back in the day we had
big purses, it was not only big,but it was like this stupid
shiny patent, like lookingthings that were sort of popular
(14:59):
.
So it really showed off thetire mark, oh my gosh.
So I grabbed my purse and I hadcigarettes in my purse, of
course.
So now my cigarette's flat, butwhen you're that age with a
pack of cigarettes, you're notgonna let them go to waste.
Oh my god, well broke mylighter with the rolled over.
So when we got to where wewanted to be and we're sitting
(15:21):
at the bar, I had to ask them togive me matches to light my
cigarette, my flat cigarette,because my leg no longer works.
So I went, my buddy and we'resitting there and we're trying
to act like we're cool likeeverything's normal me with my
underage, no bar smoking.
(15:42):
My purse with my tire mark on itand my flat marbles and uh, now
I got a box of, uh, whateveryou called, what did they used
to call the things of matches abook.
Is that called a book ofmatches?
Yeah, I guess yeah, so I'msitting there and of course I'm
not in my right state of mindcompletely anyhow because you
had pre-gamed or had roadies onthe way yeah, we had fun before
(16:06):
we got there so I'm talking tomy friend and we're just talking
and I go to light my cigarettewith a match.
Big mistake.
And remember this is 80s hair,oh no.
So I was talking to her and Ilit my cigarette and you had to
suck on it harder than normalbecause of course it's flat now
so it's not real easy to get itmoving and going.
And I kind of didn't realize.
(16:27):
I didn't put my match out.
So I'm like leaning and I likecaught my hair on fire and my
girlfriend proceeded to beat thehell out of me at the door
Because she had to put me out.
Kerry (16:46):
Oh, my God.
Chrisy (16:47):
So, and I was offended, she smacked me and and my hair
is all, I just tuck it behindyou.
Oh, my god, my hair.
I worked so hard on.
Kerry (16:59):
That is completely dysfunctional.
Every, every manner of it.
It was great.
I'm sure we all have stories ofcatching our hair on fire,
doing dumb things Like oh my God, we didn't want to.
Chrisy (17:17):
We covered this episode, which is really about
dysfunction with cigarettes, asthe fourth of July, but maybe we
need to.
Well, let's start talking aboutthe other thing that we do with
fire on, unless you know, gofor it.
Kerry (17:33):
The fireworks, yeah, fireworks.
So did your family always gosee fireworks?
No, we we were.
Chrisy (17:40):
I came from a group of men that felt it was fun and
manly to set up our own, our ownfirework display.
So, no, I don't really remembergoing purposely and seeing
fireworks.
Kerry (17:54):
Well, we would always go see fireworks and I think it's
probably because we didn't haveenough money to buy our own, you
know.
So we would go places.
So one of the high schoolsalways had like a big firework
show.
So, we did that for years,until the one year at the high
school in Austintown.
We were there and we weresitting, you know, and usually
before the big show starts, likeevery 10 minutes, they'll shoot
(18:18):
a firework up, like you knowit's like kind of letting people
know it's coming, it's coming,you know, whatever.
And so we're sitting there, blah, blah, blah.
Well, we were sitting in theseseats and as they were shooting
these you, you know individualones up, for whatever reason, my
mom and dad decided to move uptwo more rows.
So we did, we moved up two morerows.
I don't, I don't know why, Idon't know if it was, oh, as
(18:38):
they were shooting up, oh, if wego up two more rows a little
better, I don't know so, anyways, the firework show starts and
within like a minute or two ofthe fireworks starting,
something went bad.
Uh, fireworks went rogue,something happened, and one of
the fireworks starting somethingwent bad.
Fireworks went rogue, somethinghappened, and one of the
fireworks went wrong and it shotup and landed right where we
were sitting, and luckily nobodyelse had taken those seats.
(19:01):
So if we wouldn't have moved,it would have landed on, either
like my dad, my mom or myself,and so that was it.
We never, from then on, if wewent and saw fireworks, we like
parked somewhere and you watchedit from afar.
Yeah, so, yeah, that ended thefireworks thing.
And then when, whenever, goingback to our New Year's episode,
(19:21):
moving out to Las Vegas,fireworks was equivalent to
people shooting guns, so yeah,I'm never, I'm no, just don't
usually go anymore.
Chrisy (19:31):
So when you're you're 4th of July is now you don't
make it a point to go seefireworks.
Kerry (19:36):
No, the most I'll see is sometimes at our farm where we
live now.
There's a fairgrounds just acouple miles away, and so from
our upstairs bedroom we can seethat, so we'll go and watch from
there, but to go specificallyto watch fireworks, no.
Chrisy (19:49):
Well, I wonder if you're actually seeing, because more
and more recently the nicefamily that I work for they were
in the past.
It's been a while now sincethey have done this, but for the
longest time they always had avery large gathering for Fourth
of July.
It was always a wonderful party.
I mean they would havewonderful food, they usually had
(20:10):
a band.
I mean it was always awonderful party.
I mean they would havewonderful food, they usually had
a band.
I mean it was a big deal Attheir house, at their house
which is actually not far fromwhere you are.
Kerry (20:16):
You're right, I bet you, if I look out my other window
back direction, I'll have to dothat.
Chrisy (20:21):
I don't know if they still do it.
They might.
But they used to invite a lotof the people from the company
to participate in thesewonderful parties and they were
wonderful and their fireworksdisplay.
I think probably because theywere friendly with the family.
Kerry (20:34):
That I think sells fireworks, which helps our area.
Chrisy (20:38):
And they had.
Their display was just as good,if, in my opinion, sometimes
better I'm sure if you wouldhave went somewhere and they had
people there that knew whatthey were doing too.
But I I do understand what youmean by the fear.
Yeah, because I think, growingup with dads and people who
wanted to set off their ownfireworks now my father I don't
(20:59):
remember anything ever going badyeah, thank goodness no
fireworks gone, rogue, no, um,but that fear was always in me
because I think there were acouple of close calls, yeah, but
yeah, no, fireworks are prettyscary.
Kerry (21:14):
They are my husband.
Chrisy (21:14):
I don't think he really cares that much for fireworks.
Kerry (21:17):
No, because when we started, dating and earlier on.
Chrisy (21:21):
I would like to.
I wouldn't mind going to seehim because it's something to do
.
Kerry (21:25):
Yeah.
Chrisy (21:26):
He was never like in a real hurry to run out the door
to go see fireworks.
Kerry (21:30):
I, you know it's weird is I mean I enjoy, I mean it's
nice to watch and everythingagain from afar.
But what I really like are theones that are not even like
colorful displays, but it's justthe big boom where it's just
you see a flash of light andthen it's just like cannon boom,
that, like vibrates, that youlike that that's those are my
favorite ones.
And it's not like I said.
(21:51):
It's not even something.
You see, it's, it's you feel itso now, I don't like that.
Chrisy (21:57):
That just sounds terrible and, of course, if you
know anything about mypersonality, I'm sitting there
and it never ceases to cross.
You know it always crosses.
My mind is this is probably badfor the earth.
Kerry (22:09):
Oh, I will.
Yes, I will say, that is I.
One of the things I do have areal issue with is the fireworks
, because of the animals and thebirds, and all of that I didn't
think of the.
Chrisy (22:21):
I was just thinking of, like the gas or whatever it's
putting off into the atmosphere.
Kerry (22:25):
So I always fear for the animals too.
And then in working in animalcontrol for all those years out
in Las Vegas and Henderson area,july 5th was our busiest day of
the year because, of course,all the people that think it's
just so great.
Well, we're going to go on apicnic and we're going to take
Fluffy with us.
Fluffy does not want to be atyour 4th of July picnic, trust
(22:46):
me.
Fluffy does not want to listento the fireworks.
You know so how many animalswould get it was it was.
It was our busiest day of theyear on loose dogs and animal
problems because of the nightbefore.
Chrisy (22:59):
Oh, yeah, they.
I'm sure they're terrified ifyou don't put them in a safe
space where you could try andshelter them from that noise and
chaos, right, yeah, oh, I haveexperienced people where we have
been, where they were doingfireworks at a friend's house or
whatever, where they'reterrified because they're afraid
their pet had run off becausesomebody hadn't secured them.
Kerry (23:21):
Right, so make sure this weekend, over the festivities,
you're locking your animals upnice and safe and tight in the
house, you know.
Put them in a bedroom, put themin a crate, whatever you need
to do.
Please make sure that they'rein there.
Put a radio on a thunder shirt,whatever you need to do to help
them.
Because, yeah, but I do alwaysworry about the birds and stuff
whenever the fireworks are goingoff.
Chrisy (23:42):
Geez, I don't even think of the birds.
Do they even know what theheck's going on?
What can they hear?
I don't know what the birds do.
I never saw a bird's ear.
Yes, what's going on there?
They do.
Kerry (23:55):
It is very disruptive in the lights and everything.
It's just like, yeah, it just.
There's so many bad things.
And then, like with our horseswhen we lived out West, they
were in a, you know, it was likea community corral where we had
a lot of the horses were keptat and I always worried because
you would always find, you know,stray firework pieces or
whatever that had somehowmanaged to get over to the
(24:17):
corrals oh sure it was likebottled yeah yeah, so usually,
even in the summertime, whenit's nice, we always bring the
horses in for that night becausewe just don't want anything
flying into the art and hittingthem.
Chrisy (24:27):
So oh jeez I know it's just a lot to think about.
I know, you know what.
Kerry (24:32):
I'm just gonna stay inside and watch a movie on the
fourth of july yeah, well, we'regetting old, so we're pretty
much probably going to be in bedby eight o'clock anyway.
So well, I'm not gonna say thatdoesn't sound horrible at all
to me, but we do hope thateverybody has a safe holiday
weekend.
You know, appreciate definitelycelebrate our freedom and
(24:52):
celebrate what it is to beAmerican, but do it as safe as
possible and keep those animalssafe.
Chrisy (24:58):
Stay away from lit cigarettes and loose fireworks,
grandma, grandma's withcigarettes.
I would stay away fromgrandma's with cigarettes.
Kerry (25:06):
That would be the title of our show Stay away from
grandma Grandma's withcigarettes.
I would stay away fromgrandma's cigarettes.
Chrisy (25:09):
That would be the title of our show Stay Away From
Grandma.
That is the perfect title.
Kerry (25:14):
All righty, everybody.
Well, please check us out onour Facebook page.
Give us some feedback on howyou celebrated your holiday
weekend.
If you have any good memoriesor bad memories whatever you
want to share about where yoursafe space, so find us at
dysfunction junkies dotbuzzsproutcom.
Bye everybody.
Happy 4th.
Happy 4th, duck and cover.
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