In this inspiring episode of the Early Accountability Podcast, host Kimi Walker sits down with Dr. Michelle Clay, a physician turned holistic wellness expert and founder of Freeality, to discuss her transformative journey from conventional medicine to whole-person healing. Dr. Clay shares how she pursued her childhood dream of becoming a doctor, only to realize that true healing extends beyond prescriptions and test results. After a personal tragedy, the loss of her younger brother to suicide, and her own struggle with uterine fibroids, Dr. Clay began embracing holistic approaches that addressed not just the physical, but also the emotional and spiritual dimensions of well-being.
Throughout the episode, Dr. Clay offers practical tools and heartfelt wisdom on navigating health challenges, supporting loved ones, and aging with intention, especially for what she lovingly calls her “fabulous sisters over 40.” She recounts how she helped her father manage his blood pressure and cancer treatment through whole food nutrition and herbal tonics, and introduces listeners to her brand, Freeality, which provides premium herbal teas and retreats for midlife wellness. Her parting affirmation, "I am worthy of the very best in life. I now lovingly receive it," is a powerful reminder that healing begins with self-worth and the courage to choose better every day.
Topics Covered in This Episode:
- Dr. Michelle Clay’s journey from medical doctor to holistic wellness advocate
- How personal loss and health struggles sparked a healing transformation
- Natural remedies for managing fibroids and chronic conditions
- Supporting loved ones through nutrition and holistic care
- Empowering women over 40 to thrive through perimenopause and beyond
- The importance of mindset, self-worth, and slowing down for wellness
About Dr. Michelle Clay
Dr. Michelle Clay, a Physician, Certified Holistic Health Counselor, Clinical Nutritionist, and Executive Coach, empowers women over 40 to live with purpose, age gracefully, and navigate midlife transitions with ease. Through her company, FREEALITEA, she blends conventional medicine with natural remedies, offering premium herbal teas, wellness programs, and retreats that release stress, recharge health, and enhance intimacy.
With a Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine (D.O.) degree and certifications in Holistic Health and Clinical Nutrition, Dr. Michelle specializes in executive coaching, helping women leaders align their personal and professional lives for success, especially through transitions. She combines Native herbal wisdom with modern health practices to create a premium wellness experience that helps women thrive, embrace their fullest potential, and lead with purpose.
Connect with Dr. Michelle Clay:
- Website: www.freealitea.com
Connect with Kimi Walker:
· Visit: kimiwalker.com
· LinkedIn: Kimi Walker
· Facebook: Kimi Walker
· Instagram: Kimi...
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Kimi (00:25):
Kimmy Walker here.
Welcome back to the next episode of
the Early Accountability Podcast.
I am very lucky to have our
guests here with us tonight.
We've been on the road with the doctors,
the physicians, excuse me, the medical
doctors, the trained and credential.
Medical doctors, medical physicians.
Today we have Dr. Michelle
Clay, a Free Reality.
She is a physician who transitioned
(00:47):
from conventional medicine to holistic
health and she has free reality.
She's gonna come here today to talk to
us a little bit about her company, what
she does, and a lot of transitions and
pivots that she's made in her life.
Help others make in their life when it
comes to wellness and holistic being.
So Dr. Michelle, thank you
so much for being here today.
(01:07):
I'm so happy to have you here 'cause
you are my, a fellow wellness warrior.
So y'all know I love wellness,
and wellness is everything.
, So why don't you just tell the
audience a little bit about who you
are, how you got to where you're
doing what you did today, your journey
into medicine and holistic health.
Dr. Michelle (01:23):
First of all, thank
you so much for having me here.
I'm so excited to share with you
and to all of your listeners and the
intention today for me, which is always
that I say something that impacts you.
Deeply for your transformation that
confirms the little small still voice
in your head that says, go forth, do it.
(01:44):
But you've been hesitating.
Okay.
But so first of all, my role to being a
physician, I've always known not always,
from the time I was five years old,
I knew that I wanted to be a doctor.
There wasn't any doctors
in my family at all.
And for people who are listening in, if
(02:04):
you think about from the time you were
a child, what it is that you really
want to do, what resonated with you?
What spoke to you?
A lot of people grew up and
they're not doing that thing right.
But that was something that
was just annoying in me.
So I did what was necessary.
That's, listen, I'm.
50 plus phenomenal woman.
(02:26):
Okay?
So that's before the internet
and all those things.
So you had to do the old school
Encyclopedia Britannica, go to the card
catalog and find the number and find the
books in the library to study on what
did it take to become a physician, right?
And so then that's what I did.
(02:47):
And then.
I got to medical school finally,
I actually got early acceptance
into medical school, so I could
have chosen not to graduate from
college and start medical school
Kimi (02:59):
Oh wow.
Dr. Michelle (03:00):
Yes.
But I chose to finish out my
senior year because I went to.
The greatest college ever.
Xavier, university of
Louisiana in the X grad.
I hope you're listening in.
So I want to finish there.
And I went to Ohio University College
of Osteopathic Medicine in Appalachia.
(03:22):
It's in southeast Ohio.
Okay.
Totally new experience for me leaving the
HBCU, but I've realized my childhood dream
and medical school, of course, was tough.
And honestly, I'm gonna
be completely transparent.
Is that okay?
Kimi (03:38):
Please be.
Dr. Michelle (03:40):
Please speak.
Is that
the information in the content in
medical school really isn't that hard?
I'm gonna be honest with you.
What's really challenging is the
microaggression and sometimes
straight aggression that I encounter
and a lot of other people that
(04:00):
look like me encountered as well.
That's what made it so challenging because
if you weren't already intelligent and
had some brilliance about you, you never
would've made it into medical school.
And then you get there and it's all of
these programming and messaging that
says you're not supposed to be there.
(04:21):
You don't deserve to be there.
But nonetheless, I made it Through
graduated, I realized my childhood dream.
I was in my residency seeing patients,
all this, and then it wasn't what
I thought and I was disenchanted
about the whole thing because what
(04:42):
I was seeing was a revolving door.
And what that revolving door
entailed was patients will come,
we order tests, we give them
certain treatments, and they leave.
And they may be back a week, a month,
three months later with the same thing.
And I was having these encounters where
(05:02):
the patients were like, oh, Dr. Clay, can
you pray with us or can you pray for us?
Nurses asking me, come
to teach Bible study.
I.
I'm not breaking the Bible with me
to see patients, but there must have
just been something about me that
(05:23):
they wanted more than just the blood
tests, the x-rays, the CT from me.
And.
I started rethink.
I wasn't happy with what I was
doing because I felt like I wasn't
doing enough to really help people.
And that was the draw.
(05:44):
That was the push for me
of going into medicine.
And I didn't know what
else to do with my life.
But what happened was my younger brother
at the age of 21 committed suicide,
Kimi (06:00):
Oh
Dr. Michelle (06:00):
and at that moment.
I said, I don't wanna do anything that
makes me that unhappy that could take me
to that place where all I want to do was
the PA in the pain, that emotional pain.
And so that's the thing about wellness
that probably was missing and what I was
(06:24):
doing in just conventional medicine was we
were only addressing the physical aspects.
But not the spiritual, the
emotional, the social aspect.
That all goes into wellness and
wellbeing and how you can live
and not just survive, but thrive.
(06:46):
So I decided to take a little
break just to get myself together.
As you can imagine, that
was a major disruption and
trauma and pain in our family.
Kimi (07:01):
Right.
Dr. Michelle (07:02):
I remember when I flew
home and I saw my mother and when I
hugged her, that's the first thing I did.
But her eyes, it looked like some of the
life had drained out of her eyes, and
yes, her youngest child and her only boy,
Kimi (07:19):
Oh my.
Dr. Michelle (07:21):
'cause
it was just two of us.
And that's her baby boy.
And he like, so mama's in their
sons honey, and he used to tell her
mom, we're always gonna be together.
And she said Tanya, you could get
married and have children and you know
you're gonna be living with your wife.
He said, no, mom, I have a house
(07:42):
out back for you or something, but
we're always going to be together.
That's what he always used to say to her.
So there was that.
That closeness and that was gone from
her, that just drained out of her.
You know what I mean?
And so what really led me to the holistic
(08:02):
aspect of medicine was my own healing
journey of having uterine fibroids.
And so studies show up to
97% of African American women
suffer from uterine fibroids.
So if you are sitting in a row and
it's all African American women, I
(08:24):
guarantee you to your left and to
your right, the cyst has fibroids.
Okay?
And my message, I'm a very spiritual
person, in case you haven't noticed.
I guess the patients notice that,
that's why they want me to pray
with them and for 'em, okay?
In the hospital and in the clinic was.
You can do this naturally, you will
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be able to shrink these naturally.
And once you do, you share that
information with other women so that they
know that they know that it is possible.
And that's what led me to.
Researching and studying all
these different herbs and
foods and what causes fibroids.
(09:08):
And what I identified was that all of
the toxicity in our food, particularly
growth hormones, that they get to the
animals, which then we ingest when we
eat meat, it's embedded in their muscle.
And I changed my life.
Like overnight.
I stopped perming my hair.
I stopped eating meat.
(09:33):
And they did actually shrink.
And then that's when I went back to
school to get my certification in
holistic health and clinical nutrition.
And that was part of really
what led me right here today.
There's a lot of lives in this one life
that I have in these 53, almost 54 years.
(09:54):
But I feel like I've talked too long.
Kimi (09:56):
No.
One thing you said a little
off topic, but just me coming.
I've done stuff with wellness, people
know, and I've worked on some grants.
I worked on a grant at one time
through Office of Women's Health
and Office of Minority Health.
And one of the big things especially
for women of color, and I think two
men of color, it is early detection.
That can help us as far as even
(10:18):
detecting some of these things
earlier when we may be more apt to
I guess the word we like maybe adapt
or get the treatment we may need.
What role do you feel that plays or
how does that come into play when you
say, as you say, from a holistic lens
of still trying to encourage people to
go see people who are trained like you,
who are physicians and still seeking.
(10:41):
But being able to keep like
a holistic lens as well too.
Dr. Michelle (10:45):
So early detection is
important, but like the old people say,
which still pertains to this day, an ounce
of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
So for me, I'd rather you little
by little adept adapt a healthy
lifestyle because studies show, they
talk about a genetic predisposition.
(11:07):
So for instance my dad had
diabetes, his father had diabetes.
So my daddy used to tell me, oh, it runs
in our family, so you're gonna get it too.
And I said no, and sir,
so I chose to live.
A healthier lifestyle, so that
never even shows up in me.
(11:27):
Okay, so prevention.
So you can detect things early, which
is gonna help with treatment, but
from a holistic perspective, let's
just prevent it in the first place.
So even when you are getting tested with
your mammograms, colonoscopy, your blood
work, all the things, it will always.
Show up normal for me,
(11:47):
that's really the goal.
And so studies show, like I was
saying that even if you have a
genetic predisposition for something
that based on how you live your
life, a healthier lifestyle, you may
be able to control whether or not
those genes are expressed or not.
Kimi (12:05):
Correct.
Yeah.
I, now, I agree with that.
Genetics can load the gun and
your lifestyle de determines
if the trigger's pulled or not.
And so with a lot of things, and
I know there's some things we.
It just was what it was.
Okay.
So if you genetically, you just were
gonna get red hair you got red hair.
And so there's some things, but there
are things that we can do in our
lifestyle that can stop, like you said
this from going forward or to lessen
(12:26):
it, or to make it less painful or to,
experience less symptoms or what have you.
And I think that's important to know too.
It's not just oh I know African
American diabetes, so everybody
gonna get diabetes right.
So I can just eat what I want.
No, especially if, we should even be
more, like on top of it or trying to
see what we can do because there are
things that can be done preventatively,
like you said, to lessen that or to
decrease the time before somebody even
(12:47):
does have to seek, medicinal treatment.
And people forget that sometimes.
I think a lot.
Now I know you experience
your fa your father.
Battled with illness too.
Correct.
And on your website and that you
talk about you were preparing like
his nutrition and tonics for him
and getting him into Whole Foods.
(13:09):
How were you able to help your father
with consistency when you were caring
or trying to teach these practices to
somebody that it may have been outside
of what was normal to them or the
norm, especially at a older age, where
you're set in your ways and to caring
for somebody who you know care for you?
Dr. Michelle (13:28):
One of the biggest
catalyst for change for people is pain.
Okay.
Like I said, my dad was diagnosed with
diabetes, and so that came with the
whole, what we call metabolic syndrome.
So that's gonna be the diabetes,
high cholesterol, and high levels.
So my daddy was a over the
road driver, 18 wheeler truck,
and yes, and because of that.
(13:52):
Every year they have to pass
a physical with a Department
of Transportation every year.
Okay.
And there was one year where he actually
went and his blood pressure, what?
First, before he went to the DOT
physical, he went to see his primary
care physician and his blood pressure
was elevated to the point that he
(14:13):
would not pass the DOT physical That
was coming up in two and a half weeks.
So I've been telling him.
Daddy, you really can come off of these
medications if you just do this, and this.
And his response to me was these
medications allow me to cheat.
I'm, and my response was, the only
(14:33):
person you're cheating is yourself.
When he want to keep driving, he
came to me and was like, baby,
is there something that I can do
to get my blood pressure down?
I'm thinking
Kimi (14:42):
Oh, good.
Dr. Michelle (14:43):
have two.
So what I did was I told him
exactly what to eat and I made him
a customized herbal formulation.
Okay.
And I told him to drink this at
least twice a day, which he did.
And his blood pressure went down
15 points in two and a half weeks.
(15:04):
That allowed him to pass his
DOT physical and continue to
drive that big 18 wheeler truck.
Okay.
So he knew that it worked, but he was
not willing to implement that lifestyle
permanently only as a quick fix.
Kimi (15:22):
Okay.
Got it.
That's important.
So
Dr. Michelle (15:24):
that's
important right there.
But then you fast forward when
he was diagnosed with laryngeal
cancer or throat cancer, and so
the catalyst for his transformation
at that point was fear and pain.
And pain because he was unable to swallow
because the tumor had grown to the point
(15:45):
that it was difficult for him to swallow.
So they placed what they call a
G tube, and G stands for gastric,
which goes in the stomach, right?
So a stomach tube.
So that is what I was
preparing all the nutrition.
I would take Whole Foods like.
Turnip greens, collard
greens, turnip bottoms.
I would make homemade bone broth and
(16:08):
put all these things in garlic and
some of the, a lot of the herbs and
herbal teas that I already had, and
that would be the nutrition that we
would put into his tube in order to
help him gain weight, not waste away
from the cancer, and definitely not get.
Stick and even more side effects in
(16:30):
his body deteriorate more from the
radiation and the chemotherapy that he was
receiving for the, what's it called it.
And that's the only thing
that was going in his tube.
Not the Ensure or the boost or those
Kimi (16:44):
none of that.
Dr. Michelle (16:45):
Because when you
look on the package, it's a lot of
words that you cannot pronounce.
So that means it didn't
grow from the earth.
It grew from inside in a laboratory.
And so I always say, why do you
put dead things into a living
being you're very particular
(17:06):
about the gas you put in your car.
So you know, some cars.
Yeah, you can put 87 Octane in, but it
is really gonna pop with that 93 Octane.
So that's the same way with
our bodies who are vehicles.
And to me, I'm a luxury vehicle,
so I need that 93 octane.
Kimi (17:28):
So what does it
look like for you now?
So what are you, what do you do?
What are your like programs look like?
What do you implement for people?
How do you help people
make these kind of changes?
And I guess you brought
up a really good point.
How do you pick, how do you teach
and educate people on and I come from
that, I've lost over 120 pounds on
my own through diet and exercise.
So it is not just, it's
(17:48):
cool when it's cute, right?
And you like you seeing the dress
sizes and then when it's okay,
this is I gotta do this forever.
It was okay when you were, you
had the momentum and the energy,
but then it's hey, like what?
Like less than 10% of people
gonna keep it off for five years.
You start to get, get in your head.
How do you help people implement things
that are like, these are gonna be.
(18:09):
Lifestyle change?
Is it just to get on the beach or to
look cute or that those might come
with it, but where is like that pivot?
And so what are things that you
do to help people with that?
Dr. Michelle (18:21):
So my godmother told me
long ago who was one of those natural
healers, root woman type of person.
She told me that you should be
able to help anybody, but you're
not supposed to help everybody.
Translation.
You may have the knowledge and wisdom to
help them, but only certain people are
(18:42):
supposed to meet and unite together and
commune together on the healing journey.
All right.
So I really focus a lot right now
on what I call my fabulous sisters
over 40, because we got some special
and different things going on, okay?
And I'm super passionate
about that because that is me.
(19:03):
And even though I'm a whole physician.
I was in perimenopause for seven
years and didn't even know.
Because in school and in our training,
we are not taught that there are
36 symptoms of perimenopause and
menopause and what that looks like.
And then our mothers then
teach us that as well.
And so now that there's a little more
(19:25):
buzz about it, and more and more women
are going to their physician and saying,
I'm having this may not have a hot flash.
If I'm having this, and this,
I feel something is off.
Something is different.
I looked online.
I think I might be in perimenopause
and they're dismissed.
Their own physicians.
Sometimes women physicians
will even dismiss them.
(19:46):
Say, oh no, you're too young.
Oh no, it can't be that.
And then refuse to even test and
see where their hormones are.
Okay.
So I'm super passionate about
that, not only in I hate to say
just education, but awareness.
So the first step of healing is awareness.
Physicians do it.
(20:06):
We don't just randomly, give a
prescription, you're gonna run a
blood test, take a chest x-ray or
something because you have to know
what it is that you were treating,
not just shooting in the dark, right?
So I want the women to be more aware
of what's happening to their bodies
and then next, giving them solutions
(20:27):
and natural solutions because a lot
of women are afraid to take hormones.
Particularly because they're synthetic
and there was a lot of studies that came
out a few years ago, which now some of
them have been debunked, that you have
an increased risk of like breast and
ovarian cancer when you take estrogen.
Me having a very strong family
(20:48):
history of breast cancer with my
mother and her sister, then I was
apprehensive about taking hormones,
so I had to find another solution.
And different solutions.
Natural solutions gonna be
your food and various herbs.
But the real piece, and this
answers the part B of your question,
how to keep people on track.
(21:10):
It's really about mindset.
It is hashtag mindset is everything okay?
And really about keeping you
calm, mitigating the stress
response as much as possible.
Because studies show that chronic
stress will A, have women going
into perimenopause earlier.
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B, having more frequent symptoms, C,
increase the severity of symptoms.
Chronic stress actually affects
every system of our bodies from the
hair follicle down to the toenails.
All right?
I wrote a book about it.
It's a bestselling book called Conquering
the Chaos, the Super Wonder Woman's 12
(21:53):
Step Strategy for a Stress-Free Light.
And it breaks down what chronic
stress does to each of those systems.
The cardiovascular system,
respiratory nervous system, immune
system, all the things right.
And superimposed on that lens is also
with menopause, because menopause
is a multisystem thing going on
because we have estrogen receptors
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throughout our entire bodies.
That's why, girl, it's all
the symptoms happening and
every day is a different day.
One day this joint is hurting.
The next day you have palpitations.
The next day you can't sleep.
The next day what's the next day?
The next day you're having a hot flashes.
Just all these things.
But if I can, and what I do is I really,
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through mindfulness based stress reduction
techniques, really helping to shift
the mindset to a more abundant mindset.
People can stay on track.
They're encouraged and they're
reminded that they are powerful.
They're not a victim.
They are a victor, and you can be a victor
over your own power, health, wellbeing,
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vision, desire, purpose, dreams, goals.
If you really put your mind to it
and you have to talk yourself through
it, like I call it girl, sometimes
I have to preach to myself, okay?
Kimi (23:12):
You do?
No, sometimes I tell people
that sometimes you have to.
Yeah, you do.
Yeah.
I, there were days I would, I
sometimes I couldn't do it for myself.
Sometimes I have to do
it for other people.
'cause we're used to being givers.
I'm get up today and exercise for this
person 'cause I don't have it for me.
But the habit, although I'm not in
(23:32):
the habit of no kind of exercise
right now, but yeah, it's still
the habit and what you have to do.
You said that mindset of learning
what you have to do, what you have
to alter for yourself is important.
Tell us
Dr. Michelle (23:44):
Having support
Kimi (23:45):
oh, that's huge kind of.
Dr. Michelle (23:46):
Especially with women.
Sister circles where people
are truly supporting you on
your journey are so important.
And plus it's a scientific thing.
So we know the stress response
is the fight or flight when the
sympathetic nervous system is
activated, the parasympathetic,
what they call rest and digest.
But there's something with women.
(24:06):
That's why when we gather, we
feel better tend and be friends
that will also activate the
parasympathetic and help calm you down.
Kimi (24:17):
Okay, so tell us about your team.
Dr. Michelle (24:19):
So reality
is not a tea company.
It is a premium wellness experience.
And so with that premium wellness
experience, I do specifically help what I
call, like I told you, the fabulous women
over 40 maneuver, midlife, transitions
with grace and east and age with elegance.
Yes, I'm a billboard.
(24:40):
I'll be 54 in July and come closer, honey.
This is not ai.
This isn't, this is live.
It's not ettes, it's not
Photoshop, it's not a filter.
So I actually live and take
in everything that I share.
With you.
So through that transition and to age
with elegance through premium loose
(25:00):
leaf herbal teas, that they're really
relaxing escapes of wellness in the cup.
They're really transformational wellness
tools and retreat experiences and
transformational wellness program.
So the relaxing escapes of wellness in
the cup and the one that people always
say honey, what's your favorite one?
I'm like, I don't have a favorite one.
Every day a different
(25:21):
one just calls to be.
And that's that being aware, being in
tune and in touch with your body so
you know what it needs, not what it's
craving from an emotional sense, but
what it needs so it can be operate
as the luxury vehicle that you are.
Okay reality officially launched and
(25:43):
started September 8th, 2021 when I
was in the midst of caring for my dad.
When he was going through his
treatment of laryngeal cancer, and
not only was I putting some of the
reality blends in what I would fix
him, his nutrition to go in his
Kimi (26:01):
Got it.
Okay.
Dr. Michelle (26:02):
It also became the one
moment of solace that I had in the
day from caring with him, caring for
him because it was very demanding.
Kimi (26:13):
demanding.
Yeah.
Dr. Michelle (26:15):
Exhausting.
And I remember him saying,
you don't sleep enough.
You don't eat enough.
I'm thinking, man, I'll take
care of your kind parts.
So I don't,
but just even if it was just for
five minutes, that was my me time.
From the time that I would boil the water.
(26:37):
And they say a watch pot never
boils, so you can't rush.
The water getting to the appropriate
temperature, and then you can't
rush the steeping of the tea.
And the, what's important is that every
tea, every root, every herb has a certain
timeframe that it has, is optimal flavor.
(27:00):
And drawing out that essence of
it, you can't rush that process.
And then, so I would take those
moments as mindful moments for me,
and then as I would take an inhale
and exhale very slowly and blow into
my cup to cool it off, and then I
(27:20):
would sip and soothe my mind and
Kimi (27:23):
Oh
Dr. Michelle (27:24):
soothe my soul.
And then those five
minutes, it was just for me.
Kimi (27:31):
Yeah.
Wow.
Where can the audience go to find
out more about you, more about your
offerings, you have so much going on.
You have, like you said, the
whole wellness experiences for the
fabulous ones, over 40 women over 40.
Where can people go to find out
more about you, Dr. Michelle.
Dr. Michelle (27:50):
Absolutely.
So you can go to free reality.com.
That's F-R-E-E-A-L-I-T-E a.com.
And then you will see at the top of the
page I have what I call the midlife reset.
Five steps to thriving Wellness over 40.
And so it's a midlife and menopause
(28:11):
masterclass because once you know
better, then you can do better.
You'll see that at the top of the page.
And also you can choose the blend that
is right for you through either the
relaxation collection, the wellness
collection, or the sensual collection.
Kimi (28:29):
Okay.
And you also have some events
coming up too that people
might be on the lookout for.
Dr. Michelle (28:35):
Yes, absolutely.
So definitely look out
for the masterclass.
The Midlife and Menopause
masterclass called the Midlife Reset.
And in September I am having
the Soulful Awakened Weekend.
It's a me Time Mountain Retreat up in
the Blue Ridge Mountains of Georgia.
Kimi (28:56):
Okay.
Georgia.
Okay.
Okay.
Dr. Michelle (28:58):
on the Georgia side,
Kimi (29:00):
Is that so they can find
out about that on the website?
Dr. Michelle (29:02):
absolutely.
Kimi (29:03):
Okay, we'll make sure we'll
have all of that in the show notes.
We'll make sure we have all of those
things linked so people can learn about.
So even if they're not here in
Georgia or away near, far, sounds
like you have options for everyone
that they could, whether it's for
them or for someone who they love.
And I do wanna shout you out
'cause you know you are hometown.
(29:23):
We are definitely both from Indiana.
So I had to shout out Dr.
Michelle, my nap person.
Dr. Michelle (29:29):
Absolutely.
Born and.
Kimi (29:32):
she is hometown.
Yes.
So it just hits a little different, right?
So definitely to all of my people
as my, all my family, my mom,
whoever, will be out Indianapolis.
You've definitely gotta
show love to Dr. Michelle.
So tell people, what are some words
that you live by Dr. Michelle?
What's a mantra?
What are some things?
I know you have many, but
give us what, A few of them.
A couple of them.
Dr. Michelle (29:53):
Okay.
You know what?
I'm gonna leave you with
an affirmation for my book.
Kimi (29:57):
Yay.
Dr. Michelle (29:58):
Okay.
Let's see let's choose a good one.
And so that's how I preach to myself
is I say affirmations to myself
because you become what you speak,
you become what you think about.
So if I'm thinking something rather
negative, if I say it enough, then it
shifts to I think positively and not
(30:19):
just think I can see my way positively.
Okay.
Ooh, this is good right here honey.
There's a lot of good ones, but I'm gonna
open up, I'm gonna go with this one.
I am worthy of the very best in life.
I'm now lovingly receive it.
Kimi (30:45):
We need some affirmation.
We need a little affirmation
set from that book.
That's the next
Dr. Michelle (30:51):
yes.
Kimi (30:52):
Yes.
Dr. Michelle Clay, thank you so much
for being here, free reality and
everything, and bringing all of your.
Just a life of experiences and so
many different things and showing
us, physician, holistic healer,
wellness warrior, eh, all of it.
Wellness curator.
We appreciate all of your time
(31:12):
and thank you for coming here
on Early Accountability Podcast.
We are we are very lucky to
have had you on your show.
Thank you.
I really can't say thank you
enough, especially in hometown.
It just, it means a lot to me.
I don't how to meet people watch
up from Minneapolis, so I always
it hits a little different.
So thank you so much.
I really appreciate all your
time and it's to everybody else.
Thank you for tuning into the podcast.
Until next time.
Kimmy Walker here.
Welcome back to the next episode of
the Early Accountability Podcast.
I am very lucky to have our
guests here with us tonight.
We've been on the road with the doctors,
the physicians, excuse me, the medical
doctors, the trained and credential.
Medical doctors, medical physicians.
Today we have Dr. Michelle
Clay, a Free Reality.
She is a physician who transitioned
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from conventional medicine to holistic
health and she has free reality.
She's gonna come here today to talk to
us a little bit about her company, what
she does, and a lot of transitions and
pivots that she's made in her life.
Help others make in their life when it
comes to wellness and holistic being.
So Dr. Michelle, thank you
so much for being here today.
(01:07):
I'm so happy to have you here 'cause
you are my, a fellow wellness warrior.
So y'all know I love wellness,
and wellness is everything.
, So why don't you just tell the
audience a little bit about who you
are, how you got to where you're
doing what you did today, your journey
into medicine and holistic health.
Dr. Michelle (01:23):
First of all, thank
you so much for having me here.
I'm so excited to share with you
and to all of your listeners and the
intention today for me, which is always
that I say something that impacts you.
Deeply for your transformation that
confirms the little small still voice
in your head that says, go forth, do it.
(01:44):
But you've been hesitating.
Okay.
But so first of all, my role to being a
physician, I've always known not always,
from the time I was five years old,
I knew that I wanted to be a doctor.
There wasn't any doctors
in my family at all.
And for people who are listening in, if
(02:04):
you think about from the time you were
a child, what it is that you really
want to do, what resonated with you?
What spoke to you?
A lot of people grew up and
they're not doing that thing right.
But that was something that
was just annoying in me.
So I did what was necessary.
That's, listen, I'm.
50 plus phenomenal woman.
(02:26):
Okay?
So that's before the internet
and all those things.
So you had to do the old school
Encyclopedia Britannica, go to the card
catalog and find the number and find the
books in the library to study on what
did it take to become a physician, right?
And so then that's what I did.
(02:47):
And then.
I got to medical school finally,
I actually got early acceptance
into medical school, so I could
have chosen not to graduate from
college and start medical school
Kimi (02:59):
Oh wow.
Dr. Michelle (03:00):
Yes.
But I chose to finish out my
senior year because I went to.
The greatest college ever.
Xavier, university of
Louisiana in the X grad.
I hope you're listening in.
So I want to finish there.
And I went to Ohio University College
of Osteopathic Medicine in Appalachia.
(03:22):
It's in southeast Ohio.
Okay.
Totally new experience for me leaving the
HBCU, but I've realized my childhood dream
and medical school, of course, was tough.
And honestly, I'm gonna
be completely transparent.
Is that okay?
Kimi (03:38):
Please be.
Dr. Michelle (03:40):
Please speak.
Is that
the information in the content in
medical school really isn't that hard?
I'm gonna be honest with you.
What's really challenging is the
microaggression and sometimes
straight aggression that I encounter
and a lot of other people that
(04:00):
look like me encountered as well.
That's what made it so challenging because
if you weren't already intelligent and
had some brilliance about you, you never
would've made it into medical school.
And then you get there and it's all of
these programming and messaging that
says you're not supposed to be there.
(04:21):
You don't deserve to be there.
But nonetheless, I made it Through
graduated, I realized my childhood dream.
I was in my residency seeing patients,
all this, and then it wasn't what
I thought and I was disenchanted
about the whole thing because what
(04:42):
I was seeing was a revolving door.
And what that revolving door
entailed was patients will come,
we order tests, we give them
certain treatments, and they leave.
And they may be back a week, a month,
three months later with the same thing.
And I was having these encounters where
(05:02):
the patients were like, oh, Dr. Clay, can
you pray with us or can you pray for us?
Nurses asking me, come
to teach Bible study.
I.
I'm not breaking the Bible with me
to see patients, but there must have
just been something about me that
(05:23):
they wanted more than just the blood
tests, the x-rays, the CT from me.
And.
I started rethink.
I wasn't happy with what I was
doing because I felt like I wasn't
doing enough to really help people.
And that was the draw.
(05:44):
That was the push for me
of going into medicine.
And I didn't know what
else to do with my life.
But what happened was my younger brother
at the age of 21 committed suicide,
Kimi (06:00):
Oh
Dr. Michelle (06:00):
and at that moment.
I said, I don't wanna do anything that
makes me that unhappy that could take me
to that place where all I want to do was
the PA in the pain, that emotional pain.
And so that's the thing about wellness
that probably was missing and what I was
(06:24):
doing in just conventional medicine was we
were only addressing the physical aspects.
But not the spiritual, the
emotional, the social aspect.
That all goes into wellness and
wellbeing and how you can live
and not just survive, but thrive.
(06:46):
So I decided to take a little
break just to get myself together.
As you can imagine, that
was a major disruption and
trauma and pain in our family.
Kimi (07:01):
Right.
Dr. Michelle (07:02):
I remember when I flew
home and I saw my mother and when I
hugged her, that's the first thing I did.
But her eyes, it looked like some of the
life had drained out of her eyes, and
yes, her youngest child and her only boy,
Kimi (07:19):
Oh my.
Dr. Michelle (07:21):
'cause
it was just two of us.
And that's her baby boy.
And he like, so mama's in their
sons honey, and he used to tell her
mom, we're always gonna be together.
And she said Tanya, you could get
married and have children and you know
you're gonna be living with your wife.
He said, no, mom, I have a house
(07:42):
out back for you or something, but
we're always going to be together.
That's what he always used to say to her.
So there was that.
That closeness and that was gone from
her, that just drained out of her.
You know what I mean?
And so what really led me to the holistic
(08:02):
aspect of medicine was my own healing
journey of having uterine fibroids.
And so studies show up to
97% of African American women
suffer from uterine fibroids.
So if you are sitting in a row and
it's all African American women, I
(08:24):
guarantee you to your left and to
your right, the cyst has fibroids.
Okay?
And my message, I'm a very spiritual
person, in case you haven't noticed.
I guess the patients notice that,
that's why they want me to pray
with them and for 'em, okay?
In the hospital and in the clinic was.
You can do this naturally, you will
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be able to shrink these naturally.
And once you do, you share that
information with other women so that they
know that they know that it is possible.
And that's what led me to.
Researching and studying all
these different herbs and
foods and what causes fibroids.
(09:08):
And what I identified was that all of
the toxicity in our food, particularly
growth hormones, that they get to the
animals, which then we ingest when we
eat meat, it's embedded in their muscle.
And I changed my life.
Like overnight.
I stopped perming my hair.
I stopped eating meat.
(09:33):
And they did actually shrink.
And then that's when I went back to
school to get my certification in
holistic health and clinical nutrition.
And that was part of really
what led me right here today.
There's a lot of lives in this one life
that I have in these 53, almost 54 years.
(09:54):
But I feel like I've talked too long.
Kimi (09:56):
No.
One thing you said a little
off topic, but just me coming.
I've done stuff with wellness, people
know, and I've worked on some grants.
I worked on a grant at one time
through Office of Women's Health
and Office of Minority Health.
And one of the big things especially
for women of color, and I think two
men of color, it is early detection.
That can help us as far as even
(10:18):
detecting some of these things
earlier when we may be more apt to
I guess the word we like maybe adapt
or get the treatment we may need.
What role do you feel that plays or
how does that come into play when you
say, as you say, from a holistic lens
of still trying to encourage people to
go see people who are trained like you,
who are physicians and still seeking.
(10:41):
But being able to keep like
a holistic lens as well too.
Dr. Michelle (10:45):
So early detection is
important, but like the old people say,
which still pertains to this day, an ounce
of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
So for me, I'd rather you little
by little adept adapt a healthy
lifestyle because studies show, they
talk about a genetic predisposition.
(11:07):
So for instance my dad had
diabetes, his father had diabetes.
So my daddy used to tell me, oh, it runs
in our family, so you're gonna get it too.
And I said no, and sir,
so I chose to live.
A healthier lifestyle, so that
never even shows up in me.
(11:27):
Okay, so prevention.
So you can detect things early, which
is gonna help with treatment, but
from a holistic perspective, let's
just prevent it in the first place.
So even when you are getting tested with
your mammograms, colonoscopy, your blood
work, all the things, it will always.
Show up normal for me,
(11:47):
that's really the goal.
And so studies show, like I was
saying that even if you have a
genetic predisposition for something
that based on how you live your
life, a healthier lifestyle, you may
be able to control whether or not
those genes are expressed or not.
Kimi (12:05):
Correct.
Yeah.
I, now, I agree with that.
Genetics can load the gun and
your lifestyle de determines
if the trigger's pulled or not.
And so with a lot of things, and
I know there's some things we.
It just was what it was.
Okay.
So if you genetically, you just were
gonna get red hair you got red hair.
And so there's some things, but there
are things that we can do in our
lifestyle that can stop, like you said
this from going forward or to lessen
(12:26):
it, or to make it less painful or to,
experience less symptoms or what have you.
And I think that's important to know too.
It's not just oh I know African
American diabetes, so everybody
gonna get diabetes right.
So I can just eat what I want.
No, especially if, we should even be
more, like on top of it or trying to
see what we can do because there are
things that can be done preventatively,
like you said, to lessen that or to
decrease the time before somebody even
(12:47):
does have to seek, medicinal treatment.
And people forget that sometimes.
I think a lot.
Now I know you experience
your fa your father.
Battled with illness too.
Correct.
And on your website and that you
talk about you were preparing like
his nutrition and tonics for him
and getting him into Whole Foods.
(13:09):
How were you able to help your father
with consistency when you were caring
or trying to teach these practices to
somebody that it may have been outside
of what was normal to them or the
norm, especially at a older age, where
you're set in your ways and to caring
for somebody who you know care for you?
Dr. Michelle (13:28):
One of the biggest
catalyst for change for people is pain.
Okay.
Like I said, my dad was diagnosed with
diabetes, and so that came with the
whole, what we call metabolic syndrome.
So that's gonna be the diabetes,
high cholesterol, and high levels.
So my daddy was a over the
road driver, 18 wheeler truck,
and yes, and because of that.
(13:52):
Every year they have to pass
a physical with a Department
of Transportation every year.
Okay.
And there was one year where he actually
went and his blood pressure, what?
First, before he went to the DOT
physical, he went to see his primary
care physician and his blood pressure
was elevated to the point that he
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would not pass the DOT physical That
was coming up in two and a half weeks.
So I've been telling him.
Daddy, you really can come off of these
medications if you just do this, and this.
And his response to me was these
medications allow me to cheat.
I'm, and my response was, the only
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person you're cheating is yourself.
When he want to keep driving, he
came to me and was like, baby,
is there something that I can do
to get my blood pressure down?
I'm thinking
Kimi (14:42):
Oh, good.
Dr. Michelle (14:43):
have two.
So what I did was I told him
exactly what to eat and I made him
a customized herbal formulation.
Okay.
And I told him to drink this at
least twice a day, which he did.
And his blood pressure went down
15 points in two and a half weeks.
(15:04):
That allowed him to pass his
DOT physical and continue to
drive that big 18 wheeler truck.
Okay.
So he knew that it worked, but he was
not willing to implement that lifestyle
permanently only as a quick fix.
Kimi (15:22):
Okay.
Got it.
That's important.
So
Dr. Michelle (15:24):
that's
important right there.
But then you fast forward when
he was diagnosed with laryngeal
cancer or throat cancer, and so
the catalyst for his transformation
at that point was fear and pain.
And pain because he was unable to swallow
because the tumor had grown to the point
(15:45):
that it was difficult for him to swallow.
So they placed what they call a
G tube, and G stands for gastric,
which goes in the stomach, right?
So a stomach tube.
So that is what I was
preparing all the nutrition.
I would take Whole Foods like.
Turnip greens, collard
greens, turnip bottoms.
I would make homemade bone broth and
(16:08):
put all these things in garlic and
some of the, a lot of the herbs and
herbal teas that I already had, and
that would be the nutrition that we
would put into his tube in order to
help him gain weight, not waste away
from the cancer, and definitely not get.
Stick and even more side effects in
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his body deteriorate more from the
radiation and the chemotherapy that he was
receiving for the, what's it called it.
And that's the only thing
that was going in his tube.
Not the Ensure or the boost or those
Kimi (16:44):
none of that.
Dr. Michelle (16:45):
Because when you
look on the package, it's a lot of
words that you cannot pronounce.
So that means it didn't
grow from the earth.
It grew from inside in a laboratory.
And so I always say, why do you
put dead things into a living
being you're very particular
(17:06):
about the gas you put in your car.
So you know, some cars.
Yeah, you can put 87 Octane in, but it
is really gonna pop with that 93 Octane.
So that's the same way with
our bodies who are vehicles.
And to me, I'm a luxury vehicle,
so I need that 93 octane.
Kimi (17:28):
So what does it
look like for you now?
So what are you, what do you do?
What are your like programs look like?
What do you implement for people?
How do you help people
make these kind of changes?
And I guess you brought
up a really good point.
How do you pick, how do you teach
and educate people on and I come from
that, I've lost over 120 pounds on
my own through diet and exercise.
So it is not just, it's
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cool when it's cute, right?
And you like you seeing the dress
sizes and then when it's okay,
this is I gotta do this forever.
It was okay when you were, you
had the momentum and the energy,
but then it's hey, like what?
Like less than 10% of people
gonna keep it off for five years.
You start to get, get in your head.
How do you help people implement things
that are like, these are gonna be.
(18:09):
Lifestyle change?
Is it just to get on the beach or to
look cute or that those might come
with it, but where is like that pivot?
And so what are things that you
do to help people with that?
Dr. Michelle (18:21):
So my godmother told me
long ago who was one of those natural
healers, root woman type of person.
She told me that you should be
able to help anybody, but you're
not supposed to help everybody.
Translation.
You may have the knowledge and wisdom to
help them, but only certain people are
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supposed to meet and unite together and
commune together on the healing journey.
All right.
So I really focus a lot right now
on what I call my fabulous sisters
over 40, because we got some special
and different things going on, okay?
And I'm super passionate
about that because that is me.
(19:03):
And even though I'm a whole physician.
I was in perimenopause for seven
years and didn't even know.
Because in school and in our training,
we are not taught that there are
36 symptoms of perimenopause and
menopause and what that looks like.
And then our mothers then
teach us that as well.
And so now that there's a little more
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buzz about it, and more and more women
are going to their physician and saying,
I'm having this may not have a hot flash.
If I'm having this, and this,
I feel something is off.
Something is different.
I looked online.
I think I might be in perimenopause
and they're dismissed.
Their own physicians.
Sometimes women physicians
will even dismiss them.
(19:46):
Say, oh no, you're too young.
Oh no, it can't be that.
And then refuse to even test and
see where their hormones are.
Okay.
So I'm super passionate about
that, not only in I hate to say
just education, but awareness.
So the first step of healing is awareness.
Physicians do it.
(20:06):
We don't just randomly, give a
prescription, you're gonna run a
blood test, take a chest x-ray or
something because you have to know
what it is that you were treating,
not just shooting in the dark, right?
So I want the women to be more aware
of what's happening to their bodies
and then next, giving them solutions
(20:27):
and natural solutions because a lot
of women are afraid to take hormones.
Particularly because they're synthetic
and there was a lot of studies that came
out a few years ago, which now some of
them have been debunked, that you have
an increased risk of like breast and
ovarian cancer when you take estrogen.
Me having a very strong family
(20:48):
history of breast cancer with my
mother and her sister, then I was
apprehensive about taking hormones,
so I had to find another solution.
And different solutions.
Natural solutions gonna be
your food and various herbs.
But the real piece, and this
answers the part B of your question,
how to keep people on track.
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It's really about mindset.
It is hashtag mindset is everything okay?
And really about keeping you
calm, mitigating the stress
response as much as possible.
Because studies show that chronic
stress will A, have women going
into perimenopause earlier.
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B, having more frequent symptoms, C,
increase the severity of symptoms.
Chronic stress actually affects
every system of our bodies from the
hair follicle down to the toenails.
All right?
I wrote a book about it.
It's a bestselling book called Conquering
the Chaos, the Super Wonder Woman's 12
(21:53):
Step Strategy for a Stress-Free Light.
And it breaks down what chronic
stress does to each of those systems.
The cardiovascular system,
respiratory nervous system, immune
system, all the things right.
And superimposed on that lens is also
with menopause, because menopause
is a multisystem thing going on
because we have estrogen receptors
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throughout our entire bodies.
That's why, girl, it's all
the symptoms happening and
every day is a different day.
One day this joint is hurting.
The next day you have palpitations.
The next day you can't sleep.
The next day what's the next day?
The next day you're having a hot flashes.
Just all these things.
But if I can, and what I do is I really,
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through mindfulness based stress reduction
techniques, really helping to shift
the mindset to a more abundant mindset.
People can stay on track.
They're encouraged and they're
reminded that they are powerful.
They're not a victim.
They are a victor, and you can be a victor
over your own power, health, wellbeing,
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vision, desire, purpose, dreams, goals.
If you really put your mind to it
and you have to talk yourself through
it, like I call it girl, sometimes
I have to preach to myself, okay?
Kimi (23:12):
You do?
No, sometimes I tell people
that sometimes you have to.
Yeah, you do.
Yeah.
I, there were days I would, I
sometimes I couldn't do it for myself.
Sometimes I have to do
it for other people.
'cause we're used to being givers.
I'm get up today and exercise for this
person 'cause I don't have it for me.
But the habit, although I'm not in
(23:32):
the habit of no kind of exercise
right now, but yeah, it's still
the habit and what you have to do.
You said that mindset of learning
what you have to do, what you have
to alter for yourself is important.
Tell us
Dr. Michelle (23:44):
Having support
Kimi (23:45):
oh, that's huge kind of.
Dr. Michelle (23:46):
Especially with women.
Sister circles where people
are truly supporting you on
your journey are so important.
And plus it's a scientific thing.
So we know the stress response
is the fight or flight when the
sympathetic nervous system is
activated, the parasympathetic,
what they call rest and digest.
But there's something with women.
(24:06):
That's why when we gather, we
feel better tend and be friends
that will also activate the
parasympathetic and help calm you down.
Kimi (24:17):
Okay, so tell us about your team.
Dr. Michelle (24:19):
So reality
is not a tea company.
It is a premium wellness experience.
And so with that premium wellness
experience, I do specifically help what I
call, like I told you, the fabulous women
over 40 maneuver, midlife, transitions
with grace and east and age with elegance.
Yes, I'm a billboard.
(24:40):
I'll be 54 in July and come closer, honey.
This is not ai.
This isn't, this is live.
It's not ettes, it's not
Photoshop, it's not a filter.
So I actually live and take
in everything that I share.
With you.
So through that transition and to age
with elegance through premium loose
(25:00):
leaf herbal teas, that they're really
relaxing escapes of wellness in the cup.
They're really transformational wellness
tools and retreat experiences and
transformational wellness program.
So the relaxing escapes of wellness in
the cup and the one that people always
say honey, what's your favorite one?
I'm like, I don't have a favorite one.
Every day a different
(25:21):
one just calls to be.
And that's that being aware, being in
tune and in touch with your body so
you know what it needs, not what it's
craving from an emotional sense, but
what it needs so it can be operate
as the luxury vehicle that you are.
Okay reality officially launched and
(25:43):
started September 8th, 2021 when I
was in the midst of caring for my dad.
When he was going through his
treatment of laryngeal cancer, and
not only was I putting some of the
reality blends in what I would fix
him, his nutrition to go in his
Kimi (26:01):
Got it.
Okay.
Dr. Michelle (26:02):
It also became the one
moment of solace that I had in the
day from caring with him, caring for
him because it was very demanding.
Kimi (26:13):
demanding.
Yeah.
Dr. Michelle (26:15):
Exhausting.
And I remember him saying,
you don't sleep enough.
You don't eat enough.
I'm thinking, man, I'll take
care of your kind parts.
So I don't,
but just even if it was just for
five minutes, that was my me time.
From the time that I would boil the water.
(26:37):
And they say a watch pot never
boils, so you can't rush.
The water getting to the appropriate
temperature, and then you can't
rush the steeping of the tea.
And the, what's important is that every
tea, every root, every herb has a certain
timeframe that it has, is optimal flavor.
(27:00):
And drawing out that essence of
it, you can't rush that process.
And then, so I would take those
moments as mindful moments for me,
and then as I would take an inhale
and exhale very slowly and blow into
my cup to cool it off, and then I
(27:20):
would sip and soothe my mind and
Kimi (27:23):
Oh
Dr. Michelle (27:24):
soothe my soul.
And then those five
minutes, it was just for me.
Kimi (27:31):
Yeah.
Wow.
Where can the audience go to find
out more about you, more about your
offerings, you have so much going on.
You have, like you said, the
whole wellness experiences for the
fabulous ones, over 40 women over 40.
Where can people go to find out
more about you, Dr. Michelle.
Dr. Michelle (27:50):
Absolutely.
So you can go to free reality.com.
That's F-R-E-E-A-L-I-T-E a.com.
And then you will see at the top of the
page I have what I call the midlife reset.
Five steps to thriving Wellness over 40.
And so it's a midlife and menopause
(28:11):
masterclass because once you know
better, then you can do better.
You'll see that at the top of the page.
And also you can choose the blend that
is right for you through either the
relaxation collection, the wellness
collection, or the sensual collection.
Kimi (28:29):
Okay.
And you also have some events
coming up too that people
might be on the lookout for.
Dr. Michelle (28:35):
Yes, absolutely.
So definitely look out
for the masterclass.
The Midlife and Menopause
masterclass called the Midlife Reset.
And in September I am having
the Soulful Awakened Weekend.
It's a me Time Mountain Retreat up in
the Blue Ridge Mountains of Georgia.
Kimi (28:56):
Okay.
Georgia.
Okay.
Okay.
Dr. Michelle (28:58):
on the Georgia side,
Kimi (29:00):
Is that so they can find
out about that on the website?
Dr. Michelle (29:02):
absolutely.
Kimi (29:03):
Okay, we'll make sure we'll
have all of that in the show notes.
We'll make sure we have all of those
things linked so people can learn about.
So even if they're not here in
Georgia or away near, far, sounds
like you have options for everyone
that they could, whether it's for
them or for someone who they love.
And I do wanna shout you out
'cause you know you are hometown.
(29:23):
We are definitely both from Indiana.
So I had to shout out Dr.
Michelle, my nap person.
Dr. Michelle (29:29):
Absolutely.
Born and.
Kimi (29:32):
she is hometown.
Yes.
So it just hits a little different, right?
So definitely to all of my people
as my, all my family, my mom,
whoever, will be out Indianapolis.
You've definitely gotta
show love to Dr. Michelle.
So tell people, what are some words
that you live by Dr. Michelle?
What's a mantra?
What are some things?
I know you have many, but
give us what, A few of them.
A couple of them.
Dr. Michelle (29:53):
Okay.
You know what?
I'm gonna leave you with
an affirmation for my book.
Kimi (29:57):
Yay.
Dr. Michelle (29:58):
Okay.
Let's see let's choose a good one.
And so that's how I preach to myself
is I say affirmations to myself
because you become what you speak,
you become what you think about.
So if I'm thinking something rather
negative, if I say it enough, then it
shifts to I think positively and not
(30:19):
just think I can see my way positively.
Okay.
Ooh, this is good right here honey.
There's a lot of good ones, but I'm gonna
open up, I'm gonna go with this one.
I am worthy of the very best in life.
I'm now lovingly receive it.
Kimi (30:45):
We need some affirmation.
We need a little affirmation
set from that book.
That's the next
Dr. Michelle (30:51):
yes.
Kimi (30:52):
Yes.
Dr. Michelle Clay, thank you so much
for being here, free reality and
everything, and bringing all of your.
Just a life of experiences and so
many different things and showing
us, physician, holistic healer,
wellness warrior, eh, all of it.
Wellness curator.
We appreciate all of your time
(31:12):
and thank you for coming here
on Early Accountability Podcast.
We are we are very lucky to
have had you on your show.
Thank you.
I really can't say thank you
enough, especially in hometown.
It just, it means a lot to me.
I don't how to meet people watch
up from Minneapolis, so I always
it hits a little different.
So thank you so much.
I really appreciate all your
time and it's to everybody else.
Thank you for tuning into the podcast.
Until next time.
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