Armando Mei: 36,400 BCE, The Secrets of the Gods

Long before the rise of known civilisations, when the Earth was still shrouded in the veils of myth, an advanced intelligence walked among men. Hidden in the sands of time and protected by ancient codes, their legacy whispers through sacred texts, monumental architecture, and cosmic alignments. In 36,400 BCE – The Secrets of the Gods, acclaimed researcher Armando Mei embarks on a groundbreaking investigation into humanity’s most profound enigma: the divine origins of civilisation. He unearths stunning new evidence linking lost knowledge, ancient Egypt, and astronomical cycles reaching back tens of thousands of years. Subsequently, this led him to join the Khafre Research Project SAR Technology. This book is not a theory. It is a revelation. Meticulously documented and vividly told, it invites you to question everything you’ve been taught about history, religion, and the true purpose of the pyramids.

If you’ve ever felt that the official story doesn’t quite add up, this is the book you’ve been waiting for. Unlock the secrets. Reclaim the forgotten past. And discover the truth that was never meant to be buried.

Armando Mei is a distinguished independent researcher and a pioneering voice in Egyptology, known for his multidisciplinary approach to ancient mysteries. His groundbreaking work consistently challenges established historical timelines, revealing overlooked evidence that points to a far more sophisticated past than traditionally accepted. A key member of the Khafre Research Project SAR Technology, Armando leverages cutting-edge scientific and analytical methods to explore potential hidden structures and redefine our understanding of monumental sites like the Giza Plateau. His current focus includes the "Zep Tepi & Giza Primary Planning Theory," which posits that Giza's design is part of an ancient, advanced global planning system, pushing its origins much further into antiquity. Armando's research is not just academic; it's a dedicated quest to unearth the true origins of civilization and the secrets still buried beneath the sands. He aims to make this journey accessible, inviting enthusiasts to join him in exploring the unseen and challenging conventional narratives.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Hey, how are you on this holiday weekend, the Labor
Day weekend. Welcome to Earth Ancients. I'm your host, Cliff Gunning.
We have a lot to talk about today and a
special program. I have been wanting to sit down with
Armando May for a number of months. He's been very busy. Obviously,
we've had him on with the Stars team. Most recently

(00:43):
we were talking about the scans that were done on
the Giza Plateau and most notably the Coffree Pyramid scan
and all the controversy that that brought up. But today's
fun for me because we get to sit down and
talk directly about some of the work that Armando has
done and introduced a new book called thirty six four

(01:07):
hundred BCE Secrets of the Gods. And I had a
chance to read this book. This book was written actually
in twenty eighteen, and it was written in Italian and
Armando has actually recently had it translated into English so
that those of us in the United States could read it.

(01:28):
And this is one of these books that you got
to get, and you got to get it because it
references not only the theories of the Egyptological community, that
many of the monuments on the Giza Plateau are from
the Old Kingdom the Pharaohs, which translates into the Fourth Dynasty.

(01:49):
But not only that, the evidence of early sophisticated cultures
is noted as pre dynastic people is featured throughout this book,
along with references of some of the people who have
come along like John Anthony West, Robert Braval, and some

(02:10):
of the early scientists including Chris Dunn, who may really
important discoveries not only of the Great Pyramid, but also
of sculptures which I'm very much interested in, and other
anomalies Egypt that those in the archaeological community just do

(02:32):
not phantom. They don't refer to this, and this is
why there are so many people that are questioning Orthodox history.
And when we say orthodox history, it's like when you
look at these huge monuments, like the Great Pyramids, like
the Sphinx, like a massive statuary that weigh multiple tons

(02:58):
in some of them are ways just fifty to one
hundred tons, Where do these come from? These are not
the works of the dynastics, These are not works of
any pharaohs or the artisans who lived during those periods.
They're monstrosities, they're colosses, and they are standing evidence of

(03:21):
a very sophisticated culture that predates the pharaohs. And what
we're discovering, and what is slowly coming out even by Egyptologists,
is that these Old and Middle Kingdom pharaohs discovered these

(03:42):
temples and these pyramids and these structures, and they inherited
them and they reused them. Now, we don't know how
many different uses for the Great Pyramids were actually incorporated
by these pharaohs, but it doesn't makes sense that the
Great Pyramid, at the Cufu Pyramid or any of the

(04:04):
pyramids were used for tombs. And it's becoming almost a
joke that these Egyptologists think of these structures as tombs
without even considering the engineering that goes into building a
great pyramid with over two million blocks each averaging two

(04:24):
point five tons. You know, it's just and the other
thing is and this is what we're going to get
into today, which is fun for me, which is, you know,
the technology behind building the Great Pyramids, building the Sphinx,
building the Ossyrian. If you haven't been to the Assyrian,

(04:47):
this temple in Abidos, you have to see it. And
we've talked about it many many times over the years
and it's just more than you can conceive. How did
they drag these red granite blocks from Aswan the Asjuan

(05:07):
Corey to the site of Abidosi's over one hundred miles,
each block weighing five hundred tons, you know, I mean,
if you look at that temple alone, there's lots of questions.
But today we are featuring Armando May in a highlighted
program and not only the discovery of these artifacts, but

(05:32):
also what is happening with the Stars technology. Now, I've
mentioned SAR technology has been around for our number of decades,
and I mentioned it a couple of weeks ago that
I had discovered through an email that SARS tech is
being used and continues to be used by the military

(05:54):
ground penetrating scans to see what's under the ground to
use bunker boster bombs. I think we recently used them
in Iran, and we are continuing to use these technologies
and a number of highly technical and perhaps top secret

(06:17):
uses around the world. Now, one of the important points
that Armando brings up today is the fact that there's
no way the Pharaohs could have built the pyramids, could
have built these megalithic sculptures because they didn't have the technology.

(06:38):
And what is in the face of Egyptology is the
fact that when you review the tools that were available
to the Pharaohs and their artisans during the Old Kingdom,
they are mostly in the realm of copper tools. There
is evidence of some still being used, but not in

(07:02):
the way that could carve statuary, could cut granite with
any level of precision. This is what we're told it
was used at that time. When you see granite cut
with a powerful blade of some kind of engine, it's

(07:23):
likely to be some form of technology we don't know,
we are not aware of, like a laser pre Dynastic period.
This is all early, early, early technology that is evident
in these structures. And so this is what makes us

(07:43):
books so fascinating and I must buy for those of
you who are interested in learning about the latest discoveries
found in the Egyptian Giza plateau. We will be talking
about the pyramids, will be referring to Rubber Baval. I
have a short interview with him that I did back

(08:05):
in twenty sixteen where he describes his orion correlation theory
and how the Orian constellations are important key in the
creation of not only the pyramids in the Giza plateau,
but other structures, because it's kind of a series of temples, pyramids,

(08:30):
including the Sphinx that make this Orion correlation function. So
let's have a quick listen to rubber Beval.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
One of the strange things about the pyramids of Giza
is that they do not contain any inscriptions. They're totally
devoid of texts inside and out, so there's no writings,
but there are writings of pyramid builders that follow these
they known as the Pyramid texts. And to cut along
story short, I found out that there was a whole

(09:02):
religious belief system whereby the king who built those pyramids
would be transformed into a spiritual entity and go to
the stars. He would become a star, and particularly into
the constellation of Orion, into the center of this constellation
where they believed that the founder, the spiritual found, the

(09:29):
original pharaoh of Egypt, was a god called Osiris, who
when he died, had gone and become this constellation of stars.
So that was so in my mind, I thought this
something to do with this constellation. And of course it
was well known long before me that pyramids were aligned
to cardor directions. They had astronomical alignments. It was known

(09:54):
that their existed shafts. I didn't know this too well
at the time, but there was a shaft pointing to
Ori belt and the pyramid was constructed. And I was
in the desert once with a friend of mine in
Saudi Arabia, and you know, with all this in my mind,
he happened to be a navigator by by sheer luck.
And he pointed to the stars of Orion and said,
we use these stars because they tell us the direction

(10:18):
of east. And he said, have a look at them,
and they are three stars, two bright ones and one
less bright in offset, and that bang sort of hit
my hit My penny dropped, if you like the proverbial
penny dropped. And I saw a correlation, you know, it

(10:39):
made sense that they somehow wanted to build this kind
of heavenly abode in the stars on the ground as
a kind of heaven on a funeral complex. And I
started researching, trying to find out if you know, who
said anything about this, and amazingly nobody had not is

(11:00):
this And so I got a bit obsessed with this,
and I finally published.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Now we're going to hear a lot of other terms
today that are not unknown to us, including electromagnetic physics,
which are part of the great Think the Great Sphinx
and are also present in Chris Donn's book The Giza
Power The Giza Power Plant. Chris will be on the
program later this fall to give us more data on

(11:29):
his research and what he believes is the important aspects
of the SAR technology which is used on the scans
of the pyramid. Remember sars's synthetic aperture radar, and it
is revolutionizing our understanding of the Great Pyramids. So today's

(11:52):
program is thirty six, four hundred BC The Secrets of
the Gods, and my guest is Armando May the Earth Ancients.

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Speaker 3 (12:24):
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(12:45):
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(13:08):
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Speaker 1 (13:09):
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(13:34):
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(15:53):
is my guest against this week. We are reviewing a
new book that he has just released. If you don't
know who he is, he is a new rock star.
He's part of the Caffre Research Project having to do
with sard technology. We've had him on just recently with
his team members and Trevor Grassi talking about this new

(16:18):
scan that was done recently on the Caffree Pyramid. But
today I'm happy to say that and I've been looking
forward to this book. A new book has been released
called thirty six four hundred BCE The Secrets of the Gods,
and this was actually written a few years ago and

(16:39):
he has recently had it translated into English. And this
is one book for your library. You have to get
it because not only does it discuss Amando's work his
interest in the Giza Plateau, but also gives us a
sense of why he chose to work with the team
members of the Cafe Research Project. So Amando, welcome back

(17:03):
to Earth Ancient. It's great to see you.

Speaker 5 (17:06):
Thank you Chrif for the invitation. Thank you, it's quick
gl sure to see you again.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
You wrote this book a few years ago, but in
the very beginning of the book you bring up a
topic that I am concerned about, which is the issues
regarding the egypt To logical community, but not just worldwide,
but specifically in Egypt itself. The egypt government and their problems.

(17:35):
There are fear of exploration. Can you talk a little
bit about that, because it seems to be an issue,
and I think we can also get into the Islamic fundamentalism,
which is kind of pervasive now and a problem that
I see every time I go to Egypt, which is,
you know, you can't meditate, you can't tone, you can't

(18:01):
consider any other form of worship if it's not Islamic
when you're there in the in the different monument area.
But talk about this discovery and this unfortunate turn of
events that the country of Egypt is facing.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
Well. As you know, I'm in the field of Egyptology
since the mids of nineties, and along all this time
I try to focus partially the mystery of the Giza Pazzol,
and I achieved some results that seems to be a
starting point in the effort to understand the secrets of

(18:43):
the ancient past. Of course, with the academic Egyptology and
partly with the orthodox the gyptology, we have it's very
hard to enter in a kind of agreement on these
topics because there is a great difference of points of

(19:05):
view on this pretzel. But I have to say that time.
As I said you before before starting our interview, I'm
trying to move to Egypt, and one of the first step,
of course is to try to enter it in contact
with the Egyptian authorities, because I believe that the cooperation

(19:29):
of several projects of research are the base to move
forward in the effort to shed the light on the
mysteries of the past. That is why I believe that
I have a great I appreciate very much the work
that the Egyptian authority is made until now on the
case of at all and over Egypt, and particularly the

(19:52):
job and work that made the doctor Zakia waz In
all the time. At the same time, I have to
say that with Zagiea Was we have a different point
of interpretation of the functions of the pyramids, for for example,
because I don't think that the pyramids were tombs and
but this is not This is not so much hard

(20:16):
and to get in touch with him in the effort
to find an agreement and find a way for a cooperation.
Also because with the with the project, the Caver research project,
you know, until now we have just finished to map

(20:38):
the entire Giza Patol and it's time to achieve the
second step, it means to move to Giza and try
to start the excavation on the Giza Pattle in with
the him to explore the underground of Gisa. So great

(20:59):
appreciation for the Egyptian authorities, but it's time to start
to enter in the mind of a possible cooperation between
projects of research research.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
How do you think that's going to work out? Since
uh Zahi has basically said that the are research is
you know, not valid at all, how can you get
him to cooperate and take to the next level, which
is validating these scans.

Speaker 5 (21:32):
Yes, we have submitted the second scientific article in a
kind of a few days on Ramot Sensing Journal and
it will be published in I believe in the next
week according to the publisher times schedule. And this this

(22:00):
article is focused very very precisely on the technology that
we used. That is the same that the team used
for the scan of the KIOPS permit, but we improved
the technology just move faster in the analysis of the
tomography is that we obtained through the satellite. And at

(22:25):
the same time I had also to underline that a
cooperation with the Professor Howard Teppeagary is started of the
Stanford University because he's trying to duplicate the technology. And
this is very important for us because it's clear that

(22:45):
if the professor of deepurgery that is one of the
most important experts of writer technology, If Tepgary is starting
to explore the world of the only protocol, the alpov
who scam the underground up Giza, it means that the
technology works very well. Hm. Excellent.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
I want to get into this book. In the very beginning,
you discussed the concept of zep tepi, which is the
first time and I've known about it. Graham Hancock talks
about it, Robert Beaval, most of the alternative science discusses it.
It isn't really a concept that Egyptology grasps too much.

(23:34):
In fact, Zahi Hawas was on Joe Rogan and when
Joe Rogan mentioned it to him, he was like, what
are you talking. I've never heard of that concept before.
I was just I couldn't believe he said that. But
tell us about why zep tepi is such an important concept.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
Yes, Zachie Wessa, during the interview with Joe Rogan maybe
didn't understand the very well the question that you're organ
asking because, as you know, the tapt tape is mentioned
in the text of the Pyramids, for example, also in
the text of the Coffins, and the concept of taft

(24:18):
tape is also inscribed in the Book of Death, that
is one of the most important texts of ancient tag
The tapt type, of course, is the time when the
gods ruled over Egypt and they walk them up on humans,
give them, give them the the first knowledge. But we

(24:43):
if we take a look at the text at the
Book of Death, we can appreciate some episode that seems
to refer to a record of an ancient story and
not a myth. That is why I decided to improve

(25:06):
the lectures of the Book of Death, because among its
lines I found the clues of an ancient story that
suggests something happened in a very distant time. And the
zep type, in my opinion, was the beginning of the
neo time, during which the demigods start to rule over

(25:29):
Egypt with the horse. So it's the end of the
Osiris reign at the beginning of a horse reign. Also
because in the chapter is clearly specificated this concept when
the text says that Osiris in the night of the

(25:49):
Great Battle gave his powers to his own horse. So
it means that in that moment it is clearly uh
specificate that the tech Tapy is the beginning of the
Demigod's vieord over eagypt MHM.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Would you say that when when they writing is discussing
demiguis that's referring to an advanced culture of scientific advanced people.

Speaker 5 (26:22):
I believe that I refers to preceding civilization that lived
on Earth on a very distant time before the grape
flood for example. For sure there was an ancient and
unknown civilization. I believe that human civilization, not connection with
aliens for example. I believe it was an human civilization.

(26:45):
Also because we know very few concept about yevo solution
of human kind since the ancient sign and I believe
that anthropologists must improve their research on field in the effort
two put together of the cs and they have a
clear idea of the evolution of human kind. We are

(27:08):
still blocked on the Darbin theory that I believe is
not totally precise about the human evolution.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
John Anthony West, Graham Hancock, and a number of early
authors refer to zeb Teppy as an actual period. Are
you suggesting in your book thirty six thousand, four hundred
BCE as a starting date of an Ice age culture?

(27:44):
Is that kind of the beginning of zep Tappy talk
about that, fir Us give us an.

Speaker 5 (27:48):
Idea, yes, since the starting date because the zeb Typy
is straightly connected to another event that is inscribed in
the tech the book of that that is the battle
of Aleopolis between Rus and Set. The followers of rus
And said to conquer the pillars of Horse. We don't

(28:13):
know what is the pillar of Horrus because it's not
inscribed specificated in the text. But I believe that Eliopolis
that is straightly connected with the Giza plateau. It's not
far away from the Giza Plato. I believe it in
that time was a unique place and maybe the battle

(28:35):
was to conquer the Giza plateau. That in my opinion
and according to what we have discovered underneath theo it
was a kind of power plant complex. And this is
why I believed that the battle, the struggle between the
god originated and the was won by Horse, and from

(29:04):
that they started a new world order with the Demi
gods with doors and the Shank's War until the first
dynasty with the pharaoh Nemes.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Are you suggesting that the pyramids were built in thirty
six thousand for RBC.

Speaker 5 (29:27):
The pyramids, I think that the pyramids were aligned with
the celestial board exactly in thirty six thousand, four hundred
before Christ because there are lots of clues suggesting that
the vernal equinox of thirty six thousand, four hundred is

(29:48):
the date when the celestial board was aligned with the
monitormen on the Giza pattel, because of the connection between
the pyramids and Orion belts, because of the connection with
the ridge where actually is the master about can Cows
with the star series, there is a precise connection that

(30:10):
I described in my book. Also is very similar, for example,
of the angular separation with the east of the star
series with the East and the tumb of can Cows
with the east exactly the same angular separation. It is
a clear cluse of the possible connection between the monuments

(30:30):
and the star. What is interesting is also the position
of the lie in the constellation and the connection of Regulus,
that is the largest star of the constellation with dew planets, Mercury,
and Jupiter. Exactly how the sphinx is connected with the
two temple beneath the sphinx right. And also it is

(30:53):
interesting the connection between the constellation of Aquarius, that is
in notition with Lyon Costalline, that is exactly on the
anti two tombo tumb of the birds. And also this
connection between the Aquarius constellation and the tube of the

(31:13):
birds is very interesting because according to also the exploration
of Ambry Collins, for example, years ago of the tumb
of the Birds, he discovered that the tomb of the
tunnels underground. In the underground of the tomb are massive,
there were massive clues of water erosion and also phrases

(31:37):
of sodium. It means that the tumb of the Birds
was the basin of the Kisa Prato that inside it
flowed salt water coming from somewhere, maybe from the Metive
Iranian Sea through the channel that was discovered by the
German geologist Max Ludebig Blanken only in nineteen twenty three,

(32:02):
or maybe from the Philuing region, according to a study
of two geologists of the Chicago University, the same for
the NARCO. In nineteen twenty nine, the University of Chicago
published this exploration that refers to artificial channels that from

(32:23):
Sayoum Fayum goes towards Giza. Maybe in this channels float
soft water, So there is a clear connection between the
castelation of Acquires, the situ of the birds, and the
soft water coming from the Mediterranean Sea and from the
paying region.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
You're very careful not to mention Atlantis in your book,
but there's a lot of researchers that believe that Edgar
Casey has his figure on potential dates, and the thinking
is that the high point of Atlanta's was like fifty
thousand BC, and that the place that we considered the

(33:10):
height of Egypt, the Giza Plateau and many of the monuments,
was a satellite of Atlantis, one of their cities. Do
you have any sense of that. I know you don't
like to talk directly because when you speak of Atlantis,
that's a myth, of course, and then we're talking about Plato.

(33:31):
But these are extremely sophisticated monuments. We have no idea
how they were made. There's no record, there's no blueprints,
and it's easy for the Egyptian Egyptologists to consider them
dynastic monuments. And we're going to talk about that in

(33:52):
a minute. But there's no proof that they could even
create it during the dynastic period.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
First of all, you refers to the date fifty thousand
years ago. This data that you refers to is very
important because the date of the channel the river the
ormill that Maxi Ludivig Blanken Or discovered and I refers

(34:23):
to the channel before the in the in the preceding
enters is dated exactly two fifty thousand years ago. So
it means that that date is crucial date during which,
in my opinion, if we hypothize just for a moment

(34:46):
that Atlenties really existed, it's possible that that date is
very important because it's the date when the construction of
the entire building of gear, so the underground and the surface,
was started to be built. So it's possible that this

(35:06):
is a very important clues that must be studied in
they hope to find many other texts that could ever
pass to understand what happened in that period.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
In twenty eighteen, you developed a scientific model for the
formation of the Great Pyramids. You call it number one
thirty seven. Tell us about that. I'm interested in that
one thirty seven.

Speaker 5 (35:39):
One thirty seven, one thirty seven. Before to talk about
this number I have, I want to explain why I
joined this this I achieved this resource because what is
important to underline is that when I understood that the

(36:01):
Egyptology was blocked on ancient importancis theories that doesn't match
with the reality of the Giza Plato, I understood that
better to achieve the goal is important to analyze the

(36:22):
Giza Plato from a different point into view. So I
started from the point that if the Giza Plateau was
built by an advanced civilization that preceding that lived before
us on this planet, maybe they can't they a message
through the universal language, the tool of the universal language that,

(36:46):
in my opinion, is the number because the number one
is today and the number one is the future. So
I can't wrong about the number. So I applied the
different arithmetical and mathematical model in the analysis of the
monument part of the pyramids, and when I applied the

(37:09):
factorization model to the sides of the pyramids, I discovered
that the sides of the Great Pyramid, for example, originated
from the prime number seven and eleven seven for the
height and eleven for the base. I applied the same

(37:31):
model of the factorization to the Miserinus Mankawa appearids and
I obtain as a result the number five and for
the height and the number eleven for the base. When
I applied the same model to the Caffre pyramids, I
obtained one hundred thirty seven for the height and one

(37:53):
hundred thirty seven from the base. It means that it
was a precise code that the the lost civilization of
the pyramid wants to convey to the future generation. To
the future civilization. And in number one hundred thirty seven
is very important code for physics because from this number

(38:14):
originated the three main laws of physics electromagnetism, relativity and
quantum physics. It is also connected to the plant constant.
It is the constant find structure in quantum physics. So
this number is very very important to understand in my opinion,

(38:38):
what really was the function of the entire power plant
of Kisa, because it works according to this number that
actually is still unknown for the physicists, and I believe
that it's time to improve the study on this number.
But according to me, not to analyzing the value the

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complex value of the number, but studying the number under
thirtishive and as a kind of model, putting together in
succession the three laws of physics electromagnet is, quantum physics,
and relativity, and maybe we can achieve the final results
to understand the functioning of the pyramids.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Yeah, when you mentioned electromagnetic physics, I think of Chris
Dane's book on the Giza power plant and his belief
that the Great Cufu Pyramid was some form of generator
generating energy, and so you basically are validating his work,

(39:43):
which I find is just amazing. We're going to take
a short commercial break to allow our sponsors to identify themselves,
and we will return shortly with my guest today, Armando May,
discussing his new book thirty six thousand, four hundred BCE

(40:04):
The Secrets of the Gods. Will be right back. My

(40:51):
guest today is Armando May. He is one of the
three scientists working on the Caffrey Pyramid project using the
SARS techechnology, and he's just released a new book called
thirty six thousands, four hundred BCE, The Secrets of the Gods.
This is a look at the Giza Plateau and the

(41:11):
unusual monuments that cluster that area. How does that work
with Robert Bovall's correlation theory the orion correlation theory? Does
it tie into that as well?

Speaker 5 (41:28):
Yes. First of all, I want to say that it
will be a great pressure to meet Christopher Dan at
the next Global Pyramid Conference in Gourney, Illinois the next
twenty six twelve.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Are you speaking there? Are you going to be there?

Speaker 5 (41:45):
Yes? Will we speaker at the conference, And it's really
a great pressure to share with the Christisopher then our studies.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Ye.

Speaker 5 (41:58):
Also I add the top with him a couple of
months ago and we discussed about his theory about the
pyramids and the guess of power plants. So it will
be it will be a great pleasure for me to
meet him again at the conference in Chicago. Moreover, I

(42:18):
will have also one one with the attendant to the
public of the that will attend the conference. It's interested
to improve the results of the cover research projects. And
so I wait for everyone.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Is Filippo be only gonna be there as well or
just you?

Speaker 5 (42:44):
Yes? Yes, it will be very at the yes, me
and people it will be speaker at the conference. Yes, excellent.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
I'm sorry, What were the dates again?

Speaker 5 (42:56):
Twenty six to twenty ninth September, it's coming up up.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Okay, excellent, and I'll yeah.

Speaker 5 (43:06):
And about the theory of the correlation of Robert Boball,
I have to say that I have a great respect
for Robert that I consider my mentor my master, because
I have to say that if the Robert Boball, we

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have to thank him because he had the great idea
in the development of the theory of correction, because since
that moment we finished to talk about the pyramids as toombs,
and we enter in a new concept of the Giza
protal and in my opinion, it was really fantastic researchers.

(43:54):
That I miss him, I have to say, because I
believe that Verth is a genius from this point of view.
But I am also to underline that I started to
study his theory and I found some elements that I
believe must be correct, because when he developed this theory,

(44:23):
he refers only to the Pyramids and these things, But
there are other monuments, in my opinion, that belong to
a global project from west, from south to west, and
from above so below according to the thought concept. That

(44:43):
is why I started to study from a different point
of view, including other monuments that in my opinion, we
were part of the global project. For example, the two
temples beneath the Sphings that in my book I described
are connected with Mercury and including the ridge, were actually

(45:04):
the masterball of ken Cowys listening to the southeast of
the beast, as there's a particular shapes the spirits characterized
the can Cowy's ridge, and the sphere is connected with
the feminine, the concept of the great Mother, and so

(45:26):
it's connected with Isis and also the tomb of the
birds in the west of the Giza that is com
parts of the global project connected with the Aquarius constellation
as I splayed before. So I believe that this is
the better way to understand the global project of of Pizza.

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That is why I believe that the theory correlation of
rover Bol must be improved by an analysis more commonplex
of the monuments that were built on the.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
The other thing that Robert Beaval, John Anthony West, Robert
Shock and others believe in is that the uh Giza plateau,
as well as the Sphinx was set aside or put
together during the age of Leo, the astrological age of Leo.

(46:24):
What what was approximate age of that time frame, do
you do we have a date for that.

Speaker 5 (46:32):
The next stage of the Leo, the next stage of
the Leo at the Verona Likexnox Veronaquinox will be between
twelve thousand years. So we are exactly in the midst
of the assessional cycle of Orion in this in this age,

(46:58):
we are exactly in the me do. So it means
the new time is starting to unbelieve the secrets of
the ancient and of the last civilization. And I hope
to explore the underground as soon as possible, because only

(47:19):
in this way we can join us with our origins,
because underneath the Discipla are kept the origins of human kind.
That is why it is important to talk to the
Egyptian authorities in the effort to explain them that underneath

(47:40):
the Gipto there are our regions and the Egyptian must
be proud of this, because the ancient Egypt, that the
Egyptian civilization, was the seeds from which originated the more
modern civilization, the modern That is why I believe that
it is important to create a cooperation with the Egyptian

(48:02):
authorities and the Bobol to explore the underground of Key. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
I I've had a number of people on the program
who have used ground penetrating radar and other equipment to
pierce the sand of the Geezer Plateau. And not only
is there an intricate tunnel system, but they're according to
William Brown and Trevor Grassei, there's some temples and some

(48:35):
other structures that were perhaps never meant to be covered
by sand, but because of that area being wind swept constantly,
the sands covered it all up. Is it your hope
to get permission to dig out these tunnels and pure
and temples and things.

Speaker 5 (48:58):
I hope too. In this moment, it's very important diplomatic
schedule with the Egyptian authorities. This is very important, and
I hope to have the support of other researchers, for
example Robert Shock, that is one of the most important

(49:20):
academic that made a very interesting job on the Giza
partol and I think that it's a very reliable experts
that can help us to enter in contact with the
Egyptian authorities, but also many other researchers that could puss

(49:43):
in the effort to find a solution and agreement with
the Egyptian lordies in the effort to find to to
move forward in this is probation. I hope to and
this is why I also am moving to Cairo, because
the first step is to find the key, to enter

(50:03):
in contact with the Egyptian authorities and to start a
common project that involved all parties. Because I am underline
this is the interest of humankind and not for Mando
Ma or someone some other researchers. Is in the in
the interest of human kinds to explore the underground of

(50:26):
because I repeat, there are our origins racket there.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
How how do you plan to do this, Armando, when
what you are proposing is completely opposite of what Egyptologists believe.
They don't believe that. I mean, there's never been any acceptance,
even with scientific proof of canals and tunnels underneath the
Giza plateau, that you know, you're going to open up

(50:54):
a can of worms because you're going to show that
there's definite probability of an earlier, high advanced culture because
those tunnels are cut with by machines, they're perfectly square.
I mean, Andrew Collins has revealed that William Brown, Robert Shock,

(51:16):
they don't want that information out. That's the least of
I mean, they are resisting any hint of an advanced culture.
How are you gonna how are you going to cross
into that world and say, hey, we want to be
friends with you and let's dig out.

Speaker 5 (51:34):
Look, Cliff, this is not the first time. This is
not the first time that someone refers to the possible
existence of concrete chambers, galleries, shops under and the disciplined.
Because in nineteen thirty, for example, Salima sand that is

(51:55):
an Egyptologist and Egyptian Gyptologists published lippaper the title was
discovered the Tunnels underneath the Pyramids. Moreover, also Petri discovered
countries that lies underneath the Giza prato So we follow

(52:16):
this kind of study when we started to use the
satellite to explore the underground of kids. So there are
already other Egyptologists that made these discoveries. So the Egyptian authorities, no,
very no knows very well that there is something underneath

(52:39):
the Giza Proto. So we have just to have the
the the brave to explore the underground of They already know,
they know everything that there are structures underneath the Giza pratole,
there are countries, chambers, rooms. Now we have to find

(53:02):
an agreement and solution then to go underneath.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
So you actually think that the Antiquities Department in Egypt
is going to grant you permission to excavate a portion
of the plateau.

Speaker 5 (53:19):
Yes, First of all, we have to explore only some
wells that are on the Giza plateau, in the Necropoty
and the necropolis of the Great Pyramid for example, or
on the left of the causeway leading these links to
the Comfort Pyramid. Also in the Necropolists. In that necropolis

(53:45):
there are lots of wells that goes in the underground.
So the monuments in this moment are not in our
are not our target. But our target are the wells
that are on the Giza PTol. So the only way

(54:05):
is to remove the debris that block block the west
and removing the debris we can enter in the network
underneath the So there is nothing to do just to
remove the debris. But what is important is that behind
me I need of course and university or center of research.

(54:31):
And that is why I'm trying to get in touch
with other researchers. Rubber shocked for example, that we share
recently any correspondence discussing about that matter, and I ope
that in uh in the next weeks to have the

(54:54):
idea more clear in the effort to start the diplomatic force,
the diplomatic struggle for the Egyptian authorities.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
So are you are you hoping that Robert Shock, who's
at Boston University in the United States, will get back
in from the university to sponsor a day.

Speaker 5 (55:16):
I think that the Boston University and also rubber Shock
are very representative or very reliable subjects, and they could
be very important subject that could open the door to
the outdoor Egyptian authorities just to start a discussion. But

(55:41):
I have to understand if they really are interested in
this kind of of discussion. Of course.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Okay, one of the things that you bring up is
a big problem for Egyptologist, which is the King's List.
And when you have dates of thirty six than four
hundred BC, you think of who were the rulers during
those time periods. And you feature in discussing your book

(56:17):
not only the royal canon, the turnin Papyrus, but also
the other references to King's list in history. Talk a
little bit about the importance of the king list and
also how far back does it go?

Speaker 5 (56:38):
Yes, First of all, I have to say that the
Royal Canon was found by an Italian and nigyptologist, the
Lino Drovetti. They find it in nineteen twenty two twenty
three in Egypt, and the Royal Canon refers to a

(56:59):
longer of rulers of sovereigns that rule over Egypt for
almost thirty six thousand or thirty eight thousand years. What
is important to underlying is that the beginning the text
was lost forever. But thanks to the translation of Champollon

(57:22):
Boostop Safer for example, and also Alan Gardener we At,
we have now a precise list of sovereigns that rule
over Egypt in the pre Dynastic age. Of course, as
you know, the Egyptologists are very skeptic about the rulers
before the Dynastic Age. I have to say that from

(57:44):
a certain point of view they are their position is
correct because we have never found tombs or clues of
those sovereigns. But I have also underlined that the seventy
percent the ancient Egyptian ruins were still under the sands
of the desert, so maybe that somewhere the tombs are,

(58:09):
and we also explored the underground in others archaeological site
of Egypt, for example in the north of Abido, that
I believe is a very interesting area where something lies
under near and we must only explore those new area

(58:31):
of Egypt, and maybe we can found the close of
the these unknown rulers.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
And I think you refer to the Turin Kings list
as being requested by Ramses a second, who wanted to
know about the ancient past or one of the pharaohs,
you speculate. I don't know if we know for sure
who it was, but perhaps the dating of the pirates

(59:01):
is around Ramsey is the second time period.

Speaker 5 (59:05):
The list of the Temple of Rameses the Second, the
King's list is similar to the Royal Canon. What is
the difference. The difference is that while the Royal Canon
is just only a list of kings with the date

(59:25):
of Ruel the time of view, the King's list is
a kind of legitimation of Rameses the Second and this
connection with the deities, that is, that is the difference.
That the Royal Canon is exactly a long list of rulers,

(59:46):
the king's list in the tample of Sety or the
Ramses the Second is a kind of connection through the
list of deity to legitimate the connection of the pharaohs
with the agies.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Right and so people. The reason that the Egyptologists don't
accept it is it has known pharaohs, but then it
goes back into deep history how many thousand, like thirty
thousand years ago, and list these other pharaohs and kings,
and that's too much for them to accept, because according

(01:00:23):
to our current history, there was no one sophisticated during
those early periods. We were hunters and gatherers.

Speaker 5 (01:00:32):
Yes, yes, there are yes, But as I said before,
their position, the position of the Egyptologist is core it
in this way in this case because we didn't find
any kind of clues of those rulers. But if we
escapate the other part of Egypt, maybe we can find

(01:00:55):
some clues that could confirm the existence of these lost section.
Everything is connected to the our needs to explore the
engine fast. If we decide to explore the engine fast,

(01:01:15):
we can also found the every kind of clues suggesting
the existence of a lost civilization. They're presiding els on
this planet. But we must, if we must, we can find.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Yes, Okay, one of the interesting points that you make,
and I think I remember when I was interviewing John
Anthony West, he said the same thing. The current thinking
of the Egyptological community is that the monuments on the
Giza Plateau were Old Kingdom, Fourth Dynasty. And one of

(01:01:53):
the great points in your book, which I appreciate you
even have some photographs in it, is that it could
not have been all Kingdom because they didn't have the technology.
They didn't have the resources or the skill. And I
want you to talk a little bit about that. Uh,
the ability to h to drive empower cutting tools did

(01:02:19):
not exist during the Fourth dynasty. Talk a little bit
about that discovery.

Speaker 5 (01:02:23):
Yes, yes, First of all, we must say that when
the pyramids were discovered, the inside the pyramids, that it
was found nothing, no mummies, no sunary staff, nothing even
in the in the in the in the pyramids that

(01:02:45):
aren't the inscriptions. And this is a very important point
because the ancient Egyptian are not known for the quantity
of inscriptions inside the tombs that talked about the pharaohs
of the East, life daily night. The pyramids are totally

(01:03:08):
empty of descriptions, only the Cartosian vice. I don't want
to discuss about it because we already know that it's
a forgery. So also because if it wasn't a forgery,
we Robert bobbl for example, uh would have had the
authorization to study on the field. But any authorization was

(01:03:34):
released by the Egyptian authorities. So we can study this
card and this is in my opinion and evidence that
Cartoch is a forgery. Moreover, about the tools, we know
that during the Ford Dynasty, the ancient Egyptian use tools

(01:04:00):
and cheesers in copper. So if we take a look
to the King's chamber, for example, inside the Great Pyramid,
we can appreciate the granite blocks that are very very large,
five meters from ten meters. So it means that this
kind of block must be strapped for a query of granite,

(01:04:24):
but without any kind of device to penetrate to drill
the granite to extract the block, it's impossible to obtain
this kind of job during the four Backs. Moreover, the
blocks must be transported from the Aswan caves to Gisa.
It means to transport eighty eighty tons for eighty one

(01:04:53):
hundred kilometers with wooden slages. Maybe they don't know the
use of the wheels, for example, so it's really impossible
for the Dynastic Egyptian during the Ford Dynasty during the
Old Kingdom to do this kind of job. That is
why I believe that this is an evidence that the

(01:05:19):
Pyramids were a bit from another by another civilization.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
We're going to take a short commercial break to allow
our sponsors to identify themselves and we will return shortly
with my guest today, Armando May, presenting a new book
called thirty six four hundred BCE The Secret of the Gods.
Will rejoin you shortly. My guest today is Armando May.

(01:06:36):
He is a research investigator and a historian who has
made significant discoveries as part of the Stars team and
their satellite scanning of the Giza plateau. Yeah, it's only
when you have an engineer like Chris Duncom and see

(01:06:58):
the pyramids does do they validate that it could not
have been done by the by the Dynastics because they
didn't have any technology. The technology was they.

Speaker 5 (01:07:09):
Didn't have any technology, any technology. But if the Egyptologists visited,
I suggested them to visit a granite quarry with their eyes,
their own eyes, they understand that was impossible for the Egyptian,
Dynastic Egyptian to do this kind of job. Yeah, I
suggest them to visit a granite quarry and they can

(01:07:32):
understand that it's impossible.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
Yeah, I mean, go to the os One quarry and
see the unfinished obelisk that things a It's a thousand
tons obelisk that was ready to be extracted, would have
been the largest in the world. And you know how
the hell they do that.

Speaker 5 (01:07:54):
It's granted, it's unbelievable, but also it's very important to
underline the mathematical constants that characterize the monuments that were
unknown during the Dynastic Age. The pi five ypsilon, the
number one hundred thirty seven, the number forty two, that

(01:08:17):
characterize the temple, the care, the temple of the Valley.
So there are many mathematical codes characterizing the pyramids that
were totally unknown to the Dynastic Egyptians. So how can
we explain that it's impossible? So that is why I

(01:08:38):
believe that there are a lot of many clues, a
large quantity of clues suggesting that those pontments were not
during the Dynastic Age.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
Yeah, before we leave your book, why you wrote it,
because you were revealing. Of course, we spent many years
since you read wrote the original, and of course you
updated it before you published the most recent copy. Why
did you write it? Did you write it because you
wanted to show the reader that they need to look

(01:09:12):
beyond the current thoughts of Egyptological theory and that it's
important to consider Egypt as the bastions of an advanced civilization.
Talk a little bit about what.

Speaker 5 (01:09:30):
I wrote this book and the other two book of
the trilogy just to get a new kind of support
in the study of the mysteries of the past. There
are lots of retous passionate of the ancient mysteries, and
I wanted to give a different point of view to

(01:09:53):
them in the analysis of the mysteries of the ancient past.
This is the the reason that pushed me to row
this book, just to suggest a possible different point of
view in the analysis of the mysteries of the past.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
And has Zahi Hawas or anyone in the Antiquities department
commented on the book. Have you sent them a copy
or a chapter or two just to get there.

Speaker 5 (01:10:23):
We'll give him. I will give him my book once
I meet him in Kyle. Well, that's after the fact
that we tell him, And now we're tell him it's
in my book.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
Yes, exactly, yeah, Oh my god, he's my book.

Speaker 5 (01:10:40):
He ever did that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
I want to talk a little bit about the Coffee
research project and go to twenty twenty two when you
guys first scan the the Cufu pyramid with the SAR technology.
One thing I wanted to comment on is that in
twenty twenty too it was Malanga and Baione. What did

(01:11:04):
you come on board? Did you come on board after
that was that was released?

Speaker 5 (01:11:09):
Yes, I got in touch with them, with Professor Colorado
Malanga in the first September twenty twenty two because we
have We had the meet in Pescara, Italy, thanks to
a common friend that is in the field of research
and it wanted it pushed me to meet him because

(01:11:32):
we have a common path of investigation of the Kiss
of Patol oh interesting and so we shared our path
of research. They finished to explore to scan the Kufu
pyramid and I was starving the Kaffree pyramid and I
discovered also the connection with the number one hundred and

(01:11:52):
fifty seven. So we discussed about those topics. Partially, I
was doing us to study on the Queen's Chamber of
Northern shafts with Manu Cvsadak and jean Pour Boular, and
we were analyzing the images that Matt Tipson published on

(01:12:13):
his podcast, and so we discussed about the subject and
we decide to move together in the exploration of the
kaf repayramid and then of the entire is part wonderful.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
You know, I want you, if you can, to comment
a little bit on the SAR technologies synthetic aperture radar.
I just discovered recently that it's been used by the
military for decades. It's not anything new, and this is
what makes it so interesting because Zaiowas completely rejected it

(01:12:54):
without even thinking that it's been part of the military
application for dec case.

Speaker 5 (01:13:03):
Yes, but also in civilian application SAR is used. And
I believe that Zaki was received incorrect information on firstand
and that is why I believe that he had this
kind of reaction to our our resources. But I believe

(01:13:27):
if we can ever meet with him and explain him
and him and to his explort experts that support him
in his in his product, I believe that he can
understand what is the real core of the technology that
we are applying. Because it's a combination between the star

(01:13:50):
technology and the Belondy protocol that can allow us to
explore underneath in a very deep the Giza atl So
if we can ever meet with him and these experts,
maybe we can he can could understand what is the
core of the technology, and maybe we can try to

(01:14:10):
move together forward in the exploration of the Zapporter.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
Talk if you can on the Chiaps pyramid scan in
twenty twenty two, because not only did they reveal new
rooms and canals within the body of the pyramid, there
are very anomalous shafts that go underneath the pyramid that

(01:14:37):
look like they connect with other chefts that maybe drew
water from the nile into this engine and back. Can
you can you discuss that for a little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:14:51):
OK, if there is just only one answer to your question,
and this connect to the the wall that was built
underneath the floor of the King's chamber. There is an
environment underneath the floor of the King's Chamber inside the

(01:15:13):
Great Pyramid. A wall was built, maybe during the eightieth
Beyond this wall. I know there is because I discussed
with some people that work in the Great Pyramids. That

(01:15:36):
work is actually in the King's chamber. I discussed with
them about this war, and I believe that beyond this wall,
also according to their description, there is a count with
a channel that goes deep in the underground of the pyramids,

(01:15:57):
underneath in the pyramids, and also in the upper of
the pyramids. Maybe it could be through the big void
that was discovered by the skin Pyramids. And I believe
that if we if the wall is broken, maybe we

(01:16:18):
can explore also the other environment that we detected with
the technology.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
Start Why did they place a wall underneath the King's
chain was too secure or so?

Speaker 5 (01:16:32):
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know why
the wall was was was built, I don't know, but
it characterized the environment underneath the floor of the King's
And really don't know why this wall was built. And
first of all, who decided to build this wall?

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
I mean mhm. We're trying to be very positive and
hoping that the Egyptian authorities will say, yes, we want
to dig and we want to validate this new starter scans,
But it just seems like there's too many questions about
their motivations and hiding these secrets and being revealing advanced

(01:17:24):
technology to the world that brings up so many questions
it invalidates Egyptology, It invalidates academic process, it invalidates archaeological study.
And this has been the big question I've had for years.
You have an obvious technological tool. Yeah, you too many others.

(01:17:48):
You have an advance You have an advanced machine that
they want us to believe as a tomb. How do
you I mean, I applaud your willingness to go and
live there, but what makes you think that you can
break the eyes with these people whose can whose doctrine may.

Speaker 5 (01:18:07):
Be cover up? Yes? Yes, well I would like to
ask you I made a little journalists in this move.
According to you, why the Egyptian authorities and the entire
academic world, when they know about the results ours can

(01:18:30):
and so the existence of the shops underneath the pyramids,
why the Egyptian authorities and all the Egyptian the world
of egyptologists don't decide to move forward in the esploration
of the underneath probably why it could be one of
the most important discoverers ever. Why they don't want to

(01:18:53):
move forward in this kind of a splory.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
Why so My answer to that that they would have
to rewrite the history books. They would have to say
we were wrong and that we have the Egyptians completely wrong,
you know. I mean it's like, you look at this
advanced technology that they claim is from the Dynastic period,

(01:19:18):
and they would have to excuse themselves to the world
and say we were wrong, that the Pharaohs were not
the scientific community that built the Great Pyramids. They were
not the advanced people who cut with special saws and
perhaps lasers granted and other hard stones to you know,

(01:19:47):
create sculptures and create temples and create pyramids. I don't know,
I mean it's too I think it's too naive. And
I'm not saying you're naive. I'm just saying it's too
naive to think that it's simply they just don't know
any better, and so they're just gonna deny, deny, deny.

(01:20:10):
There's something else going on. It's almost like it's a
critical problem for them to admit that there was a
technologically advanced culture prior to the Dynastics that goes back
in the deep history prehistory.

Speaker 5 (01:20:29):
Yeah. Yeah, I don't know when when we talk about
the Giza plateau in the academic field, I found their
statement totally insane, in my opinion, totally insane. Everything the
states about it. I mean, it's the Gizabado, the entire

(01:20:50):
I found the statement, their claims tota insane. But on
the other end, I have to ask, I would like
to ask them, if we found those shafts underneath the pyramids,
if we found the shafts underneath the Grizza battle, if
there are chambers underneath the Sphinx, why don't we explore

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those new megastructures that we found. We must only remove
five meters of debris from the wells that is between
the Sphinx and the Great Pyramid, and we can enter
in the network and the underground five meters of debris.
That tennel allows also to understand when the shafts was blocked,

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so we can also have an idea of when the
West was built and maybe or the entire Pizza patole
was built analyzing the organic matter we can found inside
the wells. So there is very many things to do,
any many clothes to explore, to to study. Why don't

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we move forward in this field? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
Yeah. The other thing, and I've had a couple of
different Egyptologists on the program, and it's becoming apparent that
many of these pharaohs had massive egos, and one of
the big ones is the great usurper Ramses, the second
who ritualistically that's not the right word, but it regularly

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would put his cartouche on statuary, on temples, on everything,
claiming they were his. And the issue with that is
it's confusing. And yet even with that knowledge, Egyptologists still
claim that certain statuaries, statues, certain buildings, and obviously the

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Great Pyramid and the Sphinx were dynastic creations.

Speaker 5 (01:23:01):
Yes, maybe, of course, if we noted there are also
stage in diary in Basald, for example, the pottery that
was discovered by Flindes Petri in the village of Nakada,
where pottery is in diary. This is one of the

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hardest stone in nature. How in, the patriar dated the
vessels to the pre Dynastic periods from more ancient than
the Dynastic period, between three thousand, nine hundred before Christ
three thousand, two hundred before Christ during the Nakaba period

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age Nakada age. How can do the disguis on the job?
I don't know. They didn't have any tools to work
the diary for example, So how can we date those
kinds of potteries to the Para dynasty period. If the

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Egyptian didn't have any kind of tools to work this
kind of stone. That is why I said before, it's
totally insane what I heard from the academic world when
they discuss about this kind of our topics.

Speaker 1 (01:24:19):
Yeah, it's it's crazy because the museums filled with those
kind of stone balls that look like they were kind
of a machine or laying or some kind just nuts.

Speaker 5 (01:24:31):
I was observing with some verses that were exposed during
the Cosmic Summit's twenty twenty five in North Carolina by
Matt Bill. That is a researcher that he's studying the
vessels and the colleges a collection.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
Yeah, yes, it's great. I want to see that. Apparently
it was, did you see it?

Speaker 5 (01:24:51):
Yes, I was there and I see that the vessels
and I also analyzed inside of this kind But the
there are clues of some machine that works the stone.
It's evident if we touched the side of the bass,
clear that was worked with the machine. So I get

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the increasy grip with the academics.

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
You have to make peace with them, my friend, And
that's the whole thing. You're committee you're committeing you your
poor wife. I think you're married, aren't you. Yes, yeah,
your wife is agreed to go with you. The Cara.

Speaker 5 (01:25:33):
Yes, because she's in the field of research. She's doing
an interesting job on the deity thought and she's studying
white thought is depicted. There's an ibis and not a
different bird for example, and if Ie and she found
very interesting clues suggesting white tot is represented. There's an ibis. Wow, well, good,

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she'll be she's working on a new book on the mapter.

Speaker 1 (01:26:01):
Wonderful. Hey, as we close in the last few minutes
we have together, can you expand a little bit on
the discovery of the Caffree pyramid? And I want to
get clarification. I did not believe the claims that were
made by you and Filippo of the depth of these

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tubular structures and then these square boxes or rooms until
I read that this was a military application. This is
not something that's fantasy. This technology exists both in the
United States and in other countries in their military. How

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deep do these structures go underneath the Caffree pyramid? And
since we've first heard about it, can you clarify exactly
what you think these structures are.

Speaker 5 (01:27:03):
So first of all about the the keip of the shelf.
They goes until the one one kilometers and two two
hundred so many kilometers, one kilometers and two one hundred meters,

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So that's over a mile one in my I don't
know miles.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
I'm sorry, I think it's close to a mile. It's amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:27:34):
Yes, and the structures, the Tubero structures says a diameter
of twenty meters and at six hundred the meters forty
eight day entering the boxes of eighty meters for SiZ
and they goes, they crossed the box and goes until

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one one kilometers and two hundred meters. Now what is
the function of those shafts, We don't know. It's interesting
to know that there is a structure, a spiral structures
around them. We wonder what kind of materials could be.

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In my opinion, it is a kind of metal, maybe
copper or gold, that characterized the spirrows around the shafts.
And in the time we have or we have explored
the shots to understand what was their real purper, we

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don't know. Maybe it was connected to the water to
generate vibrations. It is a working hypothesis. Yeah, but we
don't know what really was there, the function.

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
In the skin that was done in the Caffree No
Cufu pyramid. I think it was Filipo or was it
you that rendered them in a three dimensional capacity the
body within the pyramid itself. Are you going to do
the same thing with these chafts underneath the Caffree pyramid?

Speaker 5 (01:29:25):
Oh? Maybe maybe. As I said before, we have to
explore it. We can have just anypothesis, an idea, but
we must be sure of what is beneath the Gize plateau.
And we can do that just only exploring the network.

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This is the only way to understand what was the
real function of all the structure was the underneath the surface.
Because everything is connected from east to west, there is
a network called condrics that connected everything. All the pyramids
are connected among them. The sphinx is connected with the pyramids,

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The Tomb of the Birds is connected with the pyramids,
and all the monuments are connected. Will the magastructures be underneath?
So it's really it seems really power plant. But we
must I I should be for we must explore the

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network too, so every precise idea of what was its function?

Speaker 1 (01:30:35):
So this is This is news to me because what
you're saying is the entire Giza plateau with some kind
of interconnected engine of some kind.

Speaker 5 (01:30:46):
Yeah. Yes, everything is interconnect from the Sphinx until the
two of the birds from Miss West. Everything is interconnected.
But we're also different at a different level. It's interconnected,
so there are there is a level, so another level
underground and so until one kids and two hundred mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:31:12):
So what is the team's the Cafree project team hoping
to do now that you have this basic evidence of
underground shafts and rooms and so forth and so on,
what would be the next I mean without I guess
you'd have to dig right because you don't ground parent
trade raiders don't help you anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:31:35):
Yes, yes, for sure, And we have to finish the
job on the Gisapato. Once we finished there, I I
am justting to move to Sakara because I believe that
Sakara is interconnected with the Kings. The serapeum was for

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sure was connected with the Giza PTol really and so yes,
But there is also an experience that was told by
Kima de la willan In during the nineties of the
Guys that is working with him. That why they were
explored being one of the tunnels underneath the Giza Partol.

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And they found this guy in Sakkara and after many kilometers,
and it means that Tacar is connected with with the underground.

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
That gives hmmm, amazing fantastic. By the way, those of
who listening, this new book thirty six four hundred BCE,
The Secrets of the Gods is available on Amazon.

Speaker 5 (01:32:52):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (01:32:54):
Yes, of course you look at the English version on Amazon.
This is one for your for your libraries, so consider it.
And Armando May has always a pleasure having you on
the program. And perhaps we'll see each other. I'll be
on the plateau and we'll talk ahead of time. I'll
be there in April with a group to study and

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to observe the Giza Plateau. And it's all, it's all
its different forms, so.

Speaker 5 (01:33:23):
We can meet there. Meanwhile, meanwhile, I wait everybody at
Courtney in during noise at the Global Pyramid Conference, because
there will be more updates about our research from the
underground of Giza. There are new updates and so I

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think it's interesting to Tudas about these new discoveries. So
I wait everybody at the end of September twenty sixth,
twenty nine at the Global Pyramid of Conference.

Speaker 1 (01:34:00):
What is the website for them? What's their link? You
know it's called the Global Network Pyramid Conference.

Speaker 5 (01:34:09):
Global Pyramid Conference.

Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
Global Pyramid Conference dot com. Maybe I'll check it out. Maybe, Yeah,
how can people get a hold of you? What's your website?

Speaker 5 (01:34:21):
My website is there? Uh, beyond the time, beyond the time,
or just only our Mamba made block, Mama made block.

Speaker 1 (01:34:36):
Okay? And you have a you have a YouTube channel too, right?

Speaker 5 (01:34:40):
Yes, I have a YouTube channels and also a social
page where I posted min new updates about where my
project amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:34:52):
Well, it's always a pleasure having you on the program.
Thanks for joining me.

Speaker 5 (01:34:55):
And uh oh, thank you, thank you so much, Cliff.
It'sat really great pleasure you a really good place. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:35:07):
I was surprised at the points that Armando presents in
his books, especially when he shows that it's there's no
way that the Fourth Dynasty period known as the king
Old Kingdom phase of the Pharaohs that they had they
didn't have the skill set to do to build the pyramids.

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Number one, they didn't have the skill set to cut
blocks of granite that were five hundred to one thousand tons,
and we see evidence of this at the Aswuan quarries
when we when we go on our tours, we do
a stop of the quarries in the areas that have
been cut out equal one thousand tons. In fact, there's

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the unknown obelisks that still is what they call in C.
Two hasn't been disturbed, that has all the cut and
scoop marks in it from a machine of some kind
that we don't know. That that unknown obelisku is over
a thousand excuse me, a thousand tons tons. And there's

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no way that the dynastics carved any of these Abu Simbel.
If you go to that location, those are the largest
standing sculptures that have ever been found, ever discovered. They
are herculean in their size. And there's there's a famous

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story I think I've told a few times that was
handed down to me by Mohammed Imbraheim, our Egyptian guide,
that one of Ramsey's, the second engineers, was asked to
fix one of the heads that had fallen off the
sculpture Abu Sibyl, I think the second sculpture, and it

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was so heavy and huge. The guy said, there's no
way we could do that. And so it kind of
shows you there's no way that they could have carved
because it was so huge. I mean, the fallen head
alays an excess of I think it's like fifty tons
or something. It's huge. It's huge. So that right there

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tells you that there's no way that they engineered the carving.
So there's a lot of strangeness going on here, and
this should be obvious to Egyptologists, but it's not, and
they didn't. They make every excuse in the book to
deny the engineering evidence. It just puts them in a
hard place. And we've had Egyptologists on the program. Who

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is it, Doctor Karacuney succinctly Egyptology is dead And she
is a teaching professor at UCLA in Los Angeles, and
you know, she's written a number of interesting books, but
she's very much aware that it's a dying social science,

(01:38:07):
if you can call it a science at all. So anyhow,
it's great to have Armando on the program. And he's
released this book, and he's released a couple of other
books as well. Remember the title this thirty six, four
hundred Bce The Secrets of the Gods, and it's one
for your library and it just came out and is

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available on Amazon, So get a copy. Get a copy.
You'll enjoy it. Hey, I want to remind you that
we will be going to Egypt on the Grand Egyptian Tour.
It's going to be April twenty eight through May tenth.
We all meet in Cairo. For the full itinerary, go

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to Earthagents dot com, Forward slash Tours. This is going
to be a megalithic tour and what that means is
that we're going to see not only the massive colossal statuary,
but we're also going to see and experience the temples
and the pyramids. We'll get a chance to go inside
the Great Pyramid and see a close and personal these

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sites that Christen talks about, our guest talks about, and
many other people that we've had on the show. You
can see it and experience it with us. It's a
reasonable price. It's a fantastic tour. They go. The seats
go pretty quickly, so we only take like twenty people.
Again for all the details, go to Earthangines dot com,

(01:39:35):
Forward slash Tours. Come out and join us. All right,
that's it for this program. I want to thank my
guest today, Armando May, coming to us from Italy as
always as a team of Gael tour Mark, Foster, Faisal Bravar.
You guys rock all right, take care of you well,

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have a great holiday, happy Labor Day, and we'll talk
to you real soon.

Speaker 5 (01:41:04):
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