Jean Ward: The Ruins of Mars

Jean Ward is a web developer, graphic designer, imaging specialist, and independent Mars researcher from Pretoria, South Africa.

Mr. Ward earned two academic degrees in telecommunications and  electronic commerce, and currently works as an information technology specialist at Telkom, South Africa’s leading telecommunications company.

The majority of his Mars research involves sifting through thousands of orbiter photographs published on NASA’s website. Some of his discoveries have been featured on The History Channel’s The UnXplained with William Shatner.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:21):
People wonder why I have such a huge fascination for Mars.
I mean, I've been speaking about ruins on Mars for
probably a good fifteen plus years and advocated and supported
authors and research investigators and scientists who believe there is

(00:44):
evidence for a race of beings who developed cities on.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
The planet Mars. Now a lot of you think that
I'm nuts, and it's easy to think that, but we
really are not a very well educated people, the people
of Earth for the most part, the European Space Agency

(01:11):
NASA JPL, the guys who run the rovers are not
giving us the true stories. And it goes even as
far as UAP's Unidentified Aerial phenomena. We have UFOs all
over the place in South America, we have evidence of

(01:31):
crafts that are flying. And I'm always mentioning to everybody
that in nineteen sixty, the very young NASA, I had
also to do with the Department of Defense, requisitioned a
study by the Brookings Institute to find out how people

(01:51):
would react to first contact, to the fact that we're
not the only ones in the universe. And in nineteen
sixty war, remember the war ended in nineteen forty five,
we were still shell shocked, and people didn't want to
hear about contact with aliens. People didn't want to deal
with anything other than our own earth bound problems, and

(02:15):
so yes, churches were freaked out. Ministers didn't want to
think about it. The average Joe worried about his own
family and about his own livelihood. In nineteen sixty it
was a transitional period. So the general consensus was no,
will freak out. And this is the same document that's

(02:36):
being used today. NASA has not stretched beyond that data.
In fact, very recently they collected a bunch of theologians
this is priests, rabbis, pastors and that other religious types
and asked them again, how do they think their congregations

(03:00):
would react to a first contact, the news that we
are not alone in our cosmos? Well, that's the last
group of people that we want to contact. Churches are
not prospering anymore. People are leaving the church. They're deciding
that they have their own spirituality in mind, they have
their own best interest on how to look to the

(03:22):
future in mind, but it doesn't matter. This is what
NASA decided to use. And so again the churches are saying, no,
we don't want to know about this, our people will
freak out, and so here we are again a backwards,
antiquated way of looking at our population. Now, if they

(03:42):
had looked and gone to the social media side of
the American population, North American population, they would have got
a different group of answers. I'm sure that a majority
of people would say, yes, I'm interested in learning more
would be I would welcome another civilization. I would be

(04:06):
interested to learn that we're not the only ones on
our cosmos, and so forth and so on. I mean,
we're being protective, we're being babied and NASA, and I've
said this many many times, NASA is doing us a
disservice by not educating us about the possibilities of off
world types not only visiting us, but observing us. And

(04:32):
and we don't have a scenario from them about how
to deal with first contact. Now, if you've been listening
to the show, we've had doctor av Love on a
couple of different times, and more recently he identified a
new craft. I think he calls it a probe known
as three I at lists. That is fast moving. It's

(04:56):
in our cosmos right now, that's fast moving towards Earth.
And this is it's gotten people somewhat riled up, and
the news agencies are kind of creating a I don't
know if it's an alarmist attitude, but not looking at
it as what it is, perhaps a probe. So somewhere

(05:17):
going as far as it is saying it's going to crash
into Earth, that's not what's going to happen. And we'll
keep an eye on it. We'll learn what's going on.
But our space agencies need to educate us. They need
to quit protecting us. They need to be educate us
as to what's going on, and look at this UFO
phenomenon not as a freak show, but as a real

(05:40):
way to educate and prepare us for future contact and
even more important, first contact with an off world race,
an alien race of beings. Now I'm mentioning this because
people keep telling me that there's nothing on the planet Mars.

(06:01):
And our guest today has made a study using very
sophisticated equipment that reveals there's great evidence for at once
thriving race on the planet Mars. And he has also
prepared photos for you to look at either on YouTube

(06:24):
on his channel excuse me, yeah, his channel, and also
our program Earth Ancients on YouTube, you can see everything
he's talking about. For those of you who do not
care about YouTube, I have it on Facebook to look
at for reference. Now I want to play a short

(06:45):
presentation called Alien Artifacts What NASA Doesn't Want you to Know,
to show you just how tired people are of this
cover up. Just to have a quick listen to this program.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
Regarding Mars, monuments are not built in isolation. The pyramids
found in Egypt or in Central or South America were
not single structures. They were part of sprawling complexes of buildings,
town squares, and temples. If an ancient culture living on
Mars created a monument of a humanoid head, we'd expect

(07:18):
to see other structures close by, and that's exactly what
we see. There's a cluster of pyramids near the face
that people call the City Square, and near those is
an object nicknamed the Fortress, which appears to be a
collapsed pyramid. There's a formation called the DNM pyramid, named
for NASA imaging scientists Vince d. Pietro and Greg Molinar.

(07:39):
DNM is a massive, five sided, one and a half
mile tall structure. This is three times the size of
the largest pyramid in Egypt. But what's really interesting about
the DNM pyramid is that it's symmetrical around two different axes. Now,
it's easy to dismiss these findings, that it's nothing more
than a coincidence that all these weird looking structures and
pyramids are within a few months of the face. But

(08:01):
then a professional satellite imaging specialist named Erro Tourin started
looking into it. He worked for the Defense Mapping Agency
and his job was literally to analyze satellite images and
decide which objects were natural and which were artificial. He
said that all the objects, including the face, were not
of natural origin, but the DNM pyramid really blew his mind.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
The geomorphic natural hypothesis is thus left with no mechanism
that can explain the formation of the DNM pyramid. This
object's five sided shape and bilateral symmetry is unlike any
landform seen to date in this solar system.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Doran called this pyramid the Rosetta Stone of Mars. He
found all kinds of mathematical relationships between objects in the area,
and as more photos came back from Mars, we found
more strange objects a lot more.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
That's just an excerpt from a video that you get
and see go to Facebook and go find Earth as
you'll see this video. It's thirty minute video on what
NASA or I should say, what NASA doesn't want you
to know. And people are tired of it. People are very,
very tired of it. Scientists, space scientists. If you've heard
the program, We've had tons of scientists on this program

(09:20):
going what's the deal? Spill the beans? But they make
it so volatile for scientists that they threaten their lives,
they make them sign non disclosure agreements. It's just the
nightmare and we don't need to have it anymore. So
today's program is The Ruins of Mars, and my guest

(09:41):
is Jean Ward. All of you know that I have

(10:23):
a huge fascination for Mars. I've been posting and featuring authors,
research investigators, and scientists for over a decade, and I
am always on the lookout for new researchers, new imagers
who are capturing the surface of the planet of Mars

(10:45):
and presenting them as professionally as possible. My guest today
is Gene Ward, and today's program is titled the Ruins
of Mars because not only do we have evidence of
a horrific catastrophic event happened there, but we are continually
gathering and getting a chance to see what's on the surface.

(11:08):
And I've been trying to get ahold of Gene Ward
for probably I want to think two years, and for
some reason, it wasn't happening until recently when he was
featured on a series I think it's called Red Planet, Green.

Speaker 5 (11:29):
Blue Planet, Red.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Blue Planet Red. Thank you for refreshing my memory, Gene.
But anyhow, we're gonna spend an hour with Gene to
get a sense of just what he's been capturing and
his interest in the planet March. So, hey, Gene, welcome
to Earth Ancient. It's great to have you on the program.

Speaker 5 (11:49):
Thanks, Thanks Cliff, delighted to bea and yay, let's get
crafting on. I'm ready for this.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
You know.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
I want to mention before we start that you have
been featured on the History Channel, but also you were
on Bill Shatner's Unexplained. Was it a couple of times
with some of your work or just one time?

Speaker 5 (12:13):
It was just the one time. But George Haws from
the Sadonia Institute stood in for me. I would presented
this huge pyramid that we'll be having you look at
in a moment as well. So, yes, and some of
my other normalies are featured on the proofees out there

(12:34):
also on the Eastreet channel.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, but I want to mention also, Yeah, I want
to mention also that you're a techie. And let's go
over your background a little bit. Your background in and
by the way, those of who are listening genius in
South Africa. What city are you located in.

Speaker 5 (12:53):
The capital city, Pretoria, Victoria.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah, yes, fantastic. Okay, So your background you have done
eleven years of lab research and project development. Talk a
little bit about your background. What kind of education do
you have?

Speaker 5 (13:13):
Yes, so ofter I matriculated. We call it after we matriculate,
it's grade twelve in South Africa. I went to like
a college that's called a technicon that's in the engineering
institution where you get diplomas and degrees in whichever technical

(13:34):
field you study. And I studied electronics and mathematics. So
I got my diploma through the Technic on in Pretoria,
South Africa. Went over to important our telecoms at the time,
which was posts and telecommunications, and to the laboratory where

(13:57):
I did research and development in telecommunications technology. As well
as certification testing of new telecommunications equipment. So typically in
something new arrives in the country like a new PBX
or a new telephone or a new fac similar machine
like we had in the old days, I would take

(14:19):
the specification and then I test this device to make
sure it complis to South African standards. So that's my
background at the laboratories. Then after that I joined an ISP,
an Internet service provider, as a creative director. Because I
taught myself while I was at the laboratories to code HDML,

(14:44):
I taught myself graphic designed, so I was basically head
hunt to work for this ISP and ed up the
graphic design departments.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
You should also mention that I mentioned that you also
did web development. You were a web developer.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
Which that's right. I was actually look when the Department
of Posts and Telecommunications became a non government organization and
name changed to Talcom South Africa and I was Telecom
South Africa's web most at that time.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Wow. Yeah, So.

Speaker 5 (15:23):
After that I joined Telcom. I left the ISP joined
Telcom in a marketing section were I was involved in
a lot of marketing. Then I studied a degree in
e commerce at the University of South Africa, and after

(15:43):
that I also qualified as an IT project manager, so
I did that for about sixteen years IT project management
and then for the past ten twelve years I've been
back at telecom Stall doing graphic design and web development
once again.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Okay, so you're you're a graphic designer. So other thing
we could mentioned is I want you to mention before
we get going here that you also are processing satellite
imagery and you need to use special software to do this.
This is what a lot of people don't understand is

(16:23):
that this software comes in huge, huge files and you
need to be able to process it and zero down
into certain areas. Let's also mention gene This is one
that I was just thinking about. It takes hours and
hours to go through these files. Talk about that.

Speaker 5 (16:46):
Yes, typically I focused mostly on the Mars Reconnaissance ORBITA
and photographs taken by the high Eyes camera, which is
the IE resolution camera. It's like a half a meter
in diameter lens that's huge. Just thing zooms in to

(17:06):
the surface and you can see objects at twenty five
centimeters per pixel resolution. So a bottle or a ball
well show up. It will resolve in these huge photographs
at the higher rise takes. And these photographs they call
JP two's or JPEG two thousand photographs, and they typically

(17:30):
close to one or two gigabytes. So you can't download
these photographs and open them in Photoshop. You need a
special image viewer like high View, which you can download
from the NASA sete as well, and it's a tool
that allows you to open these huge JP two photographs

(17:50):
and zoom into actual size one to one scale in
this photograph, so you're only seeing a very small part
of it at a time on the screen. And you've
got a scroll through this thing, up and down, up
and our left and right, up and down, until you've
covered the whole photograph in strips. And as you go
along and you see an anomally, you saved that image.

(18:12):
And then once you've got all these images with all
these anomalies saved, you open them in an upscaling image
upscaling package like I use Gigapixel, developed by Topaz Labs
based in Texas, if I'm not mistaken, and I actually

(18:32):
downloaded Gigapixel when it was still sort of the company
was still finding its feet, so I was a founder
tester of the software. It's really yes. So the technology
was very new at the time because you've got various
image upscalers that you could download for free, and you

(18:54):
can use these online image upscalers, but they use weird
ai and it produces really odd, oddifacts when you upscale
these images. So gigapixel is groundbreaking and it's very expensive.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
What year was it that you.

Speaker 5 (19:14):
Pixel because it's the expensive.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Yeah, what year? Were you doing beta testing for them?

Speaker 5 (19:19):
Well, not bited testing, but I was part of the
founder group of customers. I didn't know that. It was
only until a week ago when Topez Laboratories upgraded their
software that I got an email from them saying listen
as a founder. I don't know what that means. A founder,

(19:44):
you qualify for this massive discount software. So yeah, I was.
I was quite flattered. And the other nice thing about
this is that NASA also uses it. So every time
that upscales one of their photographs using gigapixel, the model

(20:06):
learns from it. So consequently you can infer that if
you use gigapixel to upscale your images of Mars, then
it's going to reference the model that NASA has been
using all this time as well to upscale their images.
So you can have sort of a level of confidence

(20:29):
to know that hopefully it's upscaling accurately. But what I
do is always compare it to the original. So I'll
use a conventional magnifier image magnifier on an object. Now
I'll put it next to the upscaled image that was
done in gigapixel, and I'll compare it to make sure

(20:53):
the outlines, the shape, highlights, and the shadows and the
surrounding objects ALIGNE. Yeah, So what gigapixel does is upscales
preserving edges of objects, whereas a conventional magnifier on a
computer will produce these really blurry images. So that's the difference.

(21:17):
The detail is the same, that's just much brighter, sharper
and well defined in gigapixel.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
And your images are excellent, by the way, so I
want to thank you.

Speaker 5 (21:28):
Thank you. It's taken me a while to figure out
all the settings and parameters in the software because if
you over compensate, it looks rarely strategies objects that'd look
craft right. So you've got to practice a lot, You've
got to compare a lot.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
We should mention I found gene r YouTube has just
called a gene war ward and I in w I
oo D Yeah, Gene Ward, his YouTube channel is excellent
and this is where most of his work is located,

(22:11):
and it's excellent. Uh. He posts. It seems like he
posts fairly regularly. Let's talk about your influences. Yeah, let's
talk about your influences, Gene Why would you bother with mars?
Talk about the hacker Gary mcinton, No McKinnon, Gary McKinnon

(22:33):
talk about his hacking the NASA servers and what he discovered.

Speaker 5 (22:40):
Yes see, and what he did was this was why
back in the dyes when we had this try and
start up items, remember the funny noises and squeaky sounds
of these things used to like actually, yeah really, So
he dolled up and he was able to enter the

(23:03):
NASA network. He just thought random usernames and passwords that
people would use, and someone charges to us aime impassword
that was easy to guess. So I never really hacked
the system. He gained entry using a working userlim impassword.

(23:27):
He just gazed until he got it right. According to him,
So he got to a file server and they noticed
I think it was extraterrestrial officers meaning off planet Officers
netlicked on the folder and in it with photographs, and

(23:50):
he was going through these photographs and he got to
one of a long cylindrical object with these sort of
domes on them at the one end, and he started
downloading this photograph and he got about three quarters of
the way through when one of the system administrators realized

(24:13):
someone that gained access from an IP address that they
didn't recognize, and he reckons. They stopped his connection right
there and he wasn't able to download the full photograph,
but he downloaded the spreadsheet of off world officers and

(24:35):
the craft that they were serving on was the Hellencota,
if I recall correctly. I can't remember the other names,
but they popular generals in the US Army, you know,
like the aircraft carriers get these special names as well.
These craft in space had these strange names too, and

(24:56):
our whole list of generals and admirals. Then I started
going into researching the Secret Spice Program, the SSP, and
in particular solar warden if you've heard of that yet.
Solo Warden is this human presence in the Solar System

(25:20):
guarding the fringes of the Solar System, liking sure that
you know, enemies don't come in into our solar system.
From that point, are you.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Saying that there is a department in the military known
as SSP and.

Speaker 5 (25:39):
A secret spice program. Well, the conspiracy theorists believe that
that's true, and various whistleblowers have come forward, and I've
actually testified about this too. So whether it's true or not, yeah,
we don't know. But that then led me down the

(26:03):
rabbit hole. I was watching these SASP videos on YouTube,
and then More's anomalies videos started being recommended on my
YouTube recommended videos, and I started watching these videos about
all these strench of normalies that were being found on
MORS and I thought to myself, but White, I can

(26:25):
do this myself. And I started checking and I was
verifying their nominalies that these people were finding, and then
I started doing my own research. And then Pandora's Box
has happened, and I've been doing that ever since. So
it all started with Gary McKinnon.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
It's amazing real quickly. You also mentioned doctor John Brandenburg,
and you don't mention doctor Mark Carlaro, but I think, no,
he's not somebody but and it Brooks. I've had John
on the show a number of times, and his theory
is that there was perhaps a number of civilizations on

(27:10):
the planet Mars, but rather than a million years ago,
he says one hundred million years ago, which is just
an insane number of years. What do you what do
you say to that?

Speaker 5 (27:21):
Well, yeah, it could be, It could very well be.
But I would go out on eleven and say that
the civilization, according to my opinion, that was on Mars
at the time, a megalithic civilization was destroyed twenty thousand

(27:44):
years ago on Mars.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yes, Now, how do you how do you how do
you come up with that number?

Speaker 5 (27:52):
If you look at that, Yeah, many researchers, including myself,
believe it was about twenty ten to twenty thousand years ago,
because if you look at the time that things were
destroyed they are on Earth. It was about ten thousand
years ago.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Yeah, five hundred B was the catastrophic younger?

Speaker 5 (28:17):
How long ago? How long ago? Ten?

Speaker 2 (28:22):
The last catastrophic event was thousand, five hundred BC. Were
is twelve thousand years ago?

Speaker 5 (28:27):
Yes, around about that scale. Yes, So if you look
at the destruction of these megaliths and these megalithic structures,
you are on Earth way back then to about twelve
thousand BC, and you compare it to what these structures

(28:49):
look like on moors. That compared very favorably. And I
believe there are researchers that that theorized that there was
a solar wide event twelve thousand years ago that affected
most of the planets in the Solar System. So it
could be I'm apothesizing that it's about ten to twenty

(29:11):
thousand years ago. Okay, So are you smart opinion?

Speaker 2 (29:16):
This is new Gene because I didn't know that you
had this belief. Are you saying that when Earth went
through the turred meteor stream, which is what caused the
catastrophe twelve thousand years ago, that Mars also went through
the same asteroid field or are you talking about something

(29:38):
else that destroyed the planet. What was your belief? What's
your hypothesis of what would be the damage? What caused damage?

Speaker 5 (29:49):
Well, there's various theories. There's the electric universe, than the
Bolts theory that plasma electric plan asthma scorched certain areas
on Mars. That's that long canyon Vallas Marinaries and the

(30:10):
telltale signs of these hexagonal depressions in the surface of Mars,
and that's characteristic of a plasma discharge. That's what the
Thunderbolts project proposes. Then doctor John Brandenburg proposes there was
a massive weapons grade nuclear explosion on Mars in the

(30:35):
Sardonia region. The shockwave went around the planet and it
produced another hot spot on the opposite side, or it
could have been too huge explosions. So there's that theory.
Then there's the theory of meteorites striking the planet. And

(30:55):
then there's the other one of the exploded planet theory,
where they proposed that Mars was the moon of a
larger planet and the planet for some other reason was
destroyed and Mars was flung out and it tilted on
its orbit by ninety degrees and the meteor and the

(31:18):
fallout is that that the meteors what do they call it,
the band of meteors between Mars and Jupiter.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Asteroid build Yeah.

Speaker 5 (31:29):
Yeah, they reckon it might be that planet that remains. Yeah,
so there's there's four possibilities. And then I've seen personally
areas in I think it's Cerberus Palace where scientists reckon
there was a massive flood. There's these planes where you

(31:54):
can see there there was this massive flood and they speculate,
so it could be all five one of each, might
be a couple of those. Yeah, some laws suffered multiple catastrophes.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Amazing. Yes. One thing we should mention, Gene, is that
what we see on Mars are megalithic builders on a
massive scale.

Speaker 5 (32:24):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Yes, it's hard to tell if it's that they just
were much more adept at using the Earth to build,
or if it's because of the gravity being less than
Earth that they are able to erect such huge monstrosities

(32:44):
that we see today.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
What do you feel, Yes, I think it's because Mars
is slightly smaller than Earth and it's gravity. I think
it's zero point six of that of Earth round about
that area. So yes, I think that they could have
used They could have built bigger structures. And the megaliths,

(33:06):
the megalithic blocks that are found all the other mores
are also huge. They measure between five to about eighteen
meters in length. But then again, you do get that
huge megalithic block in ways it now it's called what's

(33:28):
it now, man Babylon, the pregnant stun of the pregnant woman.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Oh yeah, that's a Lebanon.

Speaker 5 (33:39):
Yes, Lebanon. That's right, and that things also huge they
compare to that. Yeah, but the structures, the megalithic structures,
the pyramids on Mars or massive ten times bigger. Yeah,
and thus yeah on Earth easily.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Yeah massive, before we start, Before we start, your you
call these these are the top discoveries that you're made
were you literally have hundreds of hours of imagery that
you've posted, which is what makes you so unique. But
we're just gonna choose the We're gonna choose the top

(34:17):
discoveries before we start, Gene, Why do you think NASA
is reluctant to show this to the general public. Why
is it that we have to have guys like you,
to discover image specialists like you to reveal these anomalies
rather than NASA just saying, hey, we found the rules

(34:41):
of an ancient civilization, uh, and we want you to
know about it.

Speaker 5 (34:47):
Yeah, okay, So what's nice about it is NASA publishes
these photographs and like said, available to the public to
darn loud in view. But the I won't do is
say that they found an anomaly in the photograph. I'd
rather say there's a geological feature that about geology and

(35:14):
that sort of thing. But they leave it up to
independent people, I think because they don't want to go
down that hole. But they've already dug themselves a whole,
in my opinion, by avoiding to talk about this because
the evidence is mounting on them under a lot of pressure.

(35:35):
But yeah, I think it's because of the findings of
the Brickings Institute report that was written in fifteen nine,
I think it was or sixty nineteen sixty.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Your reference to that document, which basically says, and I
talk about it all the time here on the program,
that if are if the human population on Earth realizes
that we're not the only ones in our universe, in
our cosmos, that they will go They will lose their minds,

(36:10):
commit suicide, society will stop, religions will cease, and our
planet will be rendered useless.

Speaker 5 (36:21):
Yes, basically, yeah, but that's nineteen sixty. I know, I know,
we're so ready for disclosure right now. But there's another
reason I think that they're not doing it. It's because
they don't want to lose funding. Because they are all
premises that on this major discovery of new geology, they're

(36:48):
searching for signs of life on Mars et cetera et cetera.
So if that disclose that they found life or traces
of a fossilized life on Mars, or that they found
the make ethic structures, all of a sudden, they narrative
disappears and the funding potentially, So that's maybe one of

(37:10):
the other reasons. And then thirdly, we've got these mandstream
scientists working for NASA and the YAH side. We shouldn't
rule them out that get grant money and then through
universities where they conduct their research and they you know,

(37:33):
the Wright Day papers, so they might be afraid of
losing grants.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
I'm not a sad statement of our society, though, Jane,
it's a very sad statement because I unless you're afraid
of the world, afraid of life, afraid of things that
are not disclosed, I think the majority of people would
be would well come the information on a new civilization.

Speaker 5 (38:05):
Well, if you if you just look at how many
followers they are of these most researchers on x on YouTube,
on Facebook, I'd sell the majority of people are ready
for this. I mean, we've been so programmed through science

(38:27):
fiction movies from Hollywood, et cetera, et cetera, that this
wouldn't be a shock to us. I mean we've been desensitized.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
We're going to take a short commercial break to allow
our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return shortly
with my guest today, Gene Ward, discussing the ruins of Mars.
Will be right back. My guest today is Jane Ward,

(39:40):
a South African image specialist who has been observing Mars
for the last several years and has chronicled some startling
discoveries monuments, pyramids, and man made structures. Yeah, I think
that that NASA is a little antiquated, little backwards because

(40:03):
they're using theologists, rabbis, priests and pastors and asking them
And they recently did this again. They asked a group
of theologians what they thought the reaction would be and
they were like, oh, our flock, our congregation would lose it. Well,

(40:25):
that those are the wrong people to ask. That's not
the majority of Americans or the United States or worldwide audience.
Don't you think that the majority of people are looking
at their social media and going tell me more. I
want more. I'm hungry for more.

Speaker 5 (40:46):
That's true, I do, But thing there's another problem. I mean,
people have got families, have got responsibilities. So there's a
big bunch of people, a lot that aren't even away
of this topic, but those that, oh, we.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Are hungry for more exactly.

Speaker 5 (41:10):
But I just want to go back to our previous point,
if you don't mind, Cliff, what's I think. Look, NASA
realizes maybe that they've doune this all for themselves. They
want disclose, so they allow us to do it because
of the potential of plausible deniability. That's the other option

(41:35):
that you can consider.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Before we start our top we're going to be going
through gene Wards top discoveries here. We're going to go
through quickly. I want those of you listening to h
to hear what I have to say. If you do
not want to watch this on our YouTube channel, I
will have Gene's Top discoveries. It will be a single

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image the Facebook page and these are I'm going to say,
twenty of Gene's top images and we have a special
surprise at the end that we're going to present. So
if you want to see this, go to YouTube. If
you don't bother If you don't want to see it
on YouTube, you can see it on the Facebook page,

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both the International the group or the public page. So
there you go, Jane. Let's start with your first image,
which is the Raptor zone complex. It's Elysium and it
is a fabulous pyramid. It's a pyramid of huge, huge dimensions.

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Talk about it, perfect right cliffs.

Speaker 5 (42:49):
So I've prepared this slide pack. Well go through the
top anomalies. So this is the one of that YouTube.
It in Elysia and Plenesia, and it's called the pyramid
of the Raptor Zone complex because of this strange normally

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to the top that looks like the head and beak
of a raptor. So George Horse of the Stardonia Institute,
when he contacted me and wrote a paper about this,
she called it the Raptor zone pyramid complex. So let's
go in on that pyramid and there's a closer look.

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So each side at the base is between three and
a half to two and off kilometers in length, so
they can make out the four sides. There's neat geometry
in this the flat top and then this strange ramp

(43:58):
like port in the center of the one side, and
it's very similar to the I think this is the
pyramid of the Moon. Into your teucon we've got that
strange ramp like portia on the bottom. So this, in
my opinion, was covered. It was underwater for an extended

(44:20):
period of time. It collected a lot of sediment. It's
covered in this sedimentary material or like sand, and then
the water drained away and then you can see it
stood in like a swamp for a very long time.
Look at that base, there's a lot of erosion around

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the base.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
How do we know it was underwater, Gene.

Speaker 5 (44:45):
I speculated is because if you look at these these
strange what do you call these sedimental resting areas, Yeah,
it looks like sediment. It's kind to get underwater.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
So the sediment, the sediment dropped down and laid on
top of the pyramid. You know, it's funny.

Speaker 5 (45:11):
Mic out details, you call it mic out details. It's
covered in sand.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Well, I'm wondering if it's water, this is something I
haven't thought about before, or if the pyramids a million
years old, this is just natural erosion.

Speaker 5 (45:27):
Yes, that that is possible, entirely possible too.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Yeah, but that I.

Speaker 5 (45:33):
Wouldn't say it's very tall. I wouldn't say this is
a very tall structure. Okay, it's humongous. The Moon Pyramid
at Tibacon is approximately two hundred and twenty plus feet tall.

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So if this isn't you know, it's so funny that
you brought that up, the fact that if it was underwater,
that would cause it to be.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Covered in sediment. That's why we don't see the details. Hmm.
That's amazing. That's I never thought about that.

Speaker 5 (46:11):
So very speculative, because yeah, I thought so after I
saw the erosion around the base. This thing was standing
in water for long, luck in a swamp.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (46:25):
And it's funny. The pyramids in Egypt also very near
to water, and there's a water basin just underneath it.
So these pyramids also in a very watery area of
moss by the licks of it. Wow, Okay, that's just
pure speculation. I just thought about that.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
No, yeah, okay, oh yeah, next one, next number two is.

Speaker 5 (46:53):
Yeah, this is a step a potential step pyramid. Yeah,
there's multi layers. Yeah, check that out. And then these
rise and rise of megalithic blocks. Each of these blocks
is about five by five meters in size, and the

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whole structure is about two hundred meters long one hundred
meters wide. And this is in western Arabia. Terror.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Are these high rise images, yes, okay, they're all NASA
High Raise satellite.

Speaker 5 (47:36):
Yes, so these are photographs taking at typically twenty five
centimeters per pixel resolution. Okay, right, then there's these three
pyramids that are, strangely enough, also arranged slightly off a

(47:57):
straight line, just like those in Egypt where I reckon
I aligned to Orion's belt. Not that these do, but
I mean it's very similar, you know, these three next
to one another, and this one, yeah, in the middle,
it's four and a half kilometers in length at the base.

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And then this one to the left looks a lot
like a pyramid we already know, so let me show
you that one that's the thing. Yeah, yes, it's like
this five sided pyramid, and this one's got similar geometry
and symmetry to it. But yeah, that's just.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Why would you say that? Would you say that these
pyramids have collapsed and this is why they look so sunken?

Speaker 5 (48:54):
And yes, yes, I think, yeah, because the pyramid isn't solid,
that's got chambers and things in it.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (49:05):
And there's the pyramid in Egypt I think it's called
the Black Pyramid, and year that pyramid that slants like this,
What do they call that one, oh, the bent pyramid pyramid. Yes,
and it's totally collapsed in on itself. Yeah, so yes
that I think that could have happened.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Yes, okay, wow.

Speaker 5 (49:29):
And then there's this. George Hoss actually came back to
me and he said he had a look at this
and he found something similar yere on Earth. This thing
measures about thirty by thirty meters in size.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
The outer wall, well, that's a specific kind of a ruin.
It looks like it's got of a protective wall around it.

Speaker 5 (49:55):
Yes, like the one in Peru, the chain Killa structure.
You're on Earth. It's got the outer walls and then
the strange circular structures inside. So it was George that
actually pointed this out to me.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Did George has discover this ruin? No?

Speaker 5 (50:18):
No, I did. Oh when you checked this on my
YouTube channel, he immediately connected it to this that he
was aware of. You're on Earth.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
I mean, this is an obvious archaeological area here. This
is specific ruins here that we're looking at.

Speaker 5 (50:34):
Yes, if you look at the bigger picture, there's nothing
else like it. Always these things stick out like sore fingers.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Yeah. He I want to ask you a quick question.
You're an imaging guy twenty years ago. When I started
looking at this more than twenty years ago, it was
obvious that NASA was using photoshop to cover things up
with very poor patches and things like that. Do you

(51:06):
still see that going on where areas of images are
being patched and covered.

Speaker 5 (51:14):
I don't know if like patching or covering the areas,
but they're all black strips every once in a while
that you'd see in a photograph, you'd see it in
the Rather photographs, and then in the Iras photographs you
get these black strips.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
Right, is that black strip covering an area that they
don't want to look at or what is the spot?

Speaker 5 (51:35):
I don't know. I don't know, Okay, ye, side's due
to data loss ha, yeah right, it could very well
be covering something up.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Yeah. I mean they've been imaging that planet Mars for decades.
They probably have every square inch of it covered by now.

Speaker 5 (51:54):
Oh yes, and so of the Europeans.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Yeah, European spaces are concerned.

Speaker 5 (51:59):
Yeah, wow, with the Mars Express and all those other
orbiters of theirs. And then there's this this wow geometric
pattern in the ground. So this is unlike the excided

(52:21):
axagonal depressions that the Thunderbolts project proposals was caused by
plasma discharges. This thing has got these rectangular almost like
a cross feature too, and it's about fifty meters wide.

(52:43):
Was there something that could be a foundation? Oh?

Speaker 2 (52:47):
So it could be a fund because it looks sunken
to me.

Speaker 5 (52:50):
Yeah, it looks like a wall, a very old foundation wall,
highly rited obviously and totally destroyed.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Mm hmm. But that.

Speaker 5 (53:10):
It's not a circular impact criter. It's not a plasma discharge.
This is symmetry at geometry and whereas zephyria, well, I
don't know, I don't have that information, okay, because that's

(53:32):
there's so many discoveries this. This would be in the
northern ad latitudes. I think I can't remember cleft, Sorry man.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Okay, No, it's a cool looking photo. This is a
great discovery. It's definitely artificial.

Speaker 5 (53:52):
Col Sagan once said that if you're looking at signs
of intelligent life, look at the uniformity, geometry and symmetry
of their structures. So we can infer that if we
see that on Mars, right, can't it also be applied

(54:16):
that there's intelligence behind us?

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (54:20):
But yeah, that's just my opinion, right. And then this thing,
it's huge. It's difficult to make out because it's a
top view, top down view, but it looks like a
rectangular structure with a collapsed roof, and it's got these
huge blocks or tiles on it or slabs, each about

(54:41):
eight meters in length. And then it's got these rectangular
openings on the one side, spaced evenly a part, and
these look like columns. So it's about twenty meters tall.
It reminds me of those Greek strike ancient structures of
the long pillars. Looks to me, it looks like that,

(55:05):
something like that, right, And then we get to the megaliths,
So let's have a look at those. You can see
two long ones about the same size, and then two
smaller ones next to each.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Do you think that there was some kind of a
surface tsunami with water that knocked these down?

Speaker 5 (55:34):
This is what we're looking yes, yes, so these could
have been standing upright straight up, and then due to
a lot of water and mud, they could have sank
and tilted over and fallen over like a wall. We
do young on Earth. So I'm speculating me looking at

(55:56):
a possible wall that ran through yell hm, covered in sand.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (56:05):
So these long ones are about eight meters in length,
so you can imagine if you go stand on this thing,
I use it's going to be. And then in the
same area, in the same photograph, there's these and I've
got these protrusions or knobs on them.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Those are actual knobs that are part of the actual stonework.

Speaker 5 (56:29):
I guess, huh, I don't know. Look at this long one, yeah,
with that one day, right, and then this trained circular feature.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (56:38):
So these okay, the long one is about eight meters long,
so these are forty five meters in length, so they're
so huge, and they remind me of these megalithic blocks
in South America with these knobs or protrusions on them. Right,

(57:02):
So there there's another similarity coincidence. I don't know that,
hm hmm. In my opinion, we're looking at similar structures
and in this one it's about twelve meters across.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Yeah. You do a whole series of these knob stones
on your YouTube channel.

Speaker 5 (57:28):
They're just it's just that's right.

Speaker 6 (57:30):
There's a whole area is yeah, and you'll find on
a lot of blocks megalithic blocks on Mars, there'd be
a Nobel protrusion in its center or just off center,
or it would be a depiction of a triangle like
we see there, or like a a T h got

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three and then two, so it looks like a t
mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (58:00):
So it's this and then you get three in a
row as well. Ye are we looking at possibly a
molded megalithic block. If you look at this one just
above that guy, Yeah, it's got the same sort of
shape to it. M coincidence, don't know, but that that

(58:24):
smaller block fits in there. Yeah, I just moved away,
and if they connected together, we've got a triangle depicted there.
I don't know if that is significant, is appointing to
a constellation? I speculate it could be pointing to If

(58:48):
it is a triangle and it is astrological, I think
it's pointing to the what's it called the Summer Triangle asterism?
Have you ever heard of it? The nab LTA and
the other planet's name of star country member now, But

(59:10):
it's part of this Sickness Star System constellation where there's
also like a te depicted and then it's part of
the triangle. So yeah, that's just the hypothesis of mind
that this could be pointing to assume.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
So you're maybe you're maybe thinking it's kind of like
a standing monolith that has observational features to it.

Speaker 5 (59:42):
I don't know. Yes, possibly, we've we've found stone angels
on moss. It's a bit I haven't included one. Yeah,
but there's about hope that we found on moss. Really yeah, Well,
if you want to, I can. I can open up
my blog and show it to you just now.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
If you got one that's clearly reminiscent of stoneheads, I'd
love to see it. I think.

Speaker 5 (01:00:10):
Okay, we can have a look at that in a
moment as well.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:00:15):
Yeah, and then we get to uh structure tope of
anomalies photograph by the drivers. This was a photograph taken
by the Curiosity driver many years ago that shows layers
of potential concrete and this metal rebo type of design.

(01:00:41):
It does crosses or x's inside ye, like we'd build
bridges and things of these. Yeah, and then this or
not ironwork. Check out that smooth almost sheet metal type
of ported as well. There's a piece of it, yeah,

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to the left. But this look at the uniformity in
the thickness. Yeah, these layers and it looks like ironwork
inside it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Hmm.

Speaker 5 (01:01:20):
And then the doorway or entrance way, not that it is,
but it looks like one.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Now you discovered that door, didn't you.

Speaker 5 (01:01:30):
Me and Joe from Art Alien TV discovered it at
the same time and basically posted about it on the
same day as well. So yes, this is about they
speculate about a meter, just less than a meter at all.

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But I want you tonight this strange sort of plaster
look to it. That's cracked as well, like we'd find
you on earths of these entrance ways are built into
the sides of mounds and maces and things. It's similar
to this. It's a huge hill, this little door cut

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into the side, and it reminds me of this entrance.
Where is it Uki or how do you pronounce that name?
Is that Egypt?

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
Or in a yes? Huge? No?

Speaker 5 (01:02:30):
This this is I think.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Uki?

Speaker 5 (01:02:34):
Yeah, the tomb of Uki. There's that one.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Yeah, yeah, what'so.

Speaker 5 (01:02:44):
Note the similarity. It's this is a slope. There's a
slope and it's got these strange columns and there's some
mental plaster top of appearum coincidence maybe pretty geometrically that

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there might be the door, who knows. And then this
strange cabin in the middle of nowhere. This is a
huge photograph and right in the middle of it is
this strange anomay and the opening, the dark part there

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is about thirty meters across, and it's got this strange
web like bracing covering the opening. Some have speculated this
could be some type of growth covering this. What could
be a combination of this strange growth and at all bracing?

(01:04:02):
Does rods that's long?

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Oh right, some structure of some kind.

Speaker 5 (01:04:09):
Yeah, But all the other secular depressions around yet don't
have anything covering them like this thing does. And this
one's hola inside it's actually dark, whereas the normal depressions
in this photograph, I've got this shallow sand in each

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of them. That's why this, in my opinion, is an anomaly.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:04:39):
And then this. If you go through a JP two photograph,
you'll see boulders and rocks and boulders and rocks, And
I think NASA leaves these in there because they don't
think anyone will spend time combing through these things for
like hours on end to find things like that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
Oh my god.

Speaker 5 (01:05:04):
Yeah, there's things about sixteen meters in length. I don't
know if it's a boat, I don't know. If it's
a conning tower of a buried submarine.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
It's very anomalous. It's very anomalous.

Speaker 5 (01:05:20):
Whatever its an art post, I don't know. Yeah, but
that doesn't look like a typical rock or boulder that
you see around this.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:05:32):
It's got some structures. There's grid the back of like vents.
I don't know what that is. Yeah, right, then we
get to remember Buzz Aldrin once spoke about the monolith
on Phobos.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
We're going to take a short commercial break to allow
our sponsors to identify themselves in. Will return shortly with
my guest today, image specialist Gene Ward, coming to us
from South Africa. Will be right back. My guest today

(01:06:55):
is Gene Ward. He is a Mars image specialist who
has identified numerous buildings, pyramids, entire cities brought to us
by the imaging technology of satellites that are orbiting planet Mars.

(01:07:17):
Phobus is the one of two moons on Mars Phobus
one whatbus two? Yeah, but it but Aldridge, who was
the one that commented on the megalith on the monolith
buzz Aldron, buzz Aldron.

Speaker 5 (01:07:32):
Yeah, what did he say there? He says, we've got
to get to Phoibos. There's a monolith there. And then
that's actually photographed there it is, and it's about twenty
meters wide. And if you analyze the photographs or Phobos,

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you don't find anything else like this. It's just coveting
and whatever. This is regular. And then this thing sticks
out there like a soull finger. So how did he
know it was there.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
Exactly?

Speaker 5 (01:08:10):
I don't know, I don't know. Very intriguing. And then
this also again, it doesn't look like a typical rock
or boulder. And when you zoom in on it, it's
got like a machine type of liquid or part of
a machine or technology like piping and open your on

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the ends like sheet metal. It's about twelve meters in length.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
So is this.

Speaker 5 (01:08:42):
Remnants of ancient technology on Mars or is it wreckage
from a failed Mars issue? Weird, but that there looks
like technology to me.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:08:59):
And then h this port again, you just see bolders
and rocks and bolders and rocks until you're zoom in
on this port. It's about twelve. It looks like an
oblong head with a nose sticking out, Yeah, and the

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chin maybe the mouth paradilia perhaps, but it's very symmetrical.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
It's easy to get paradelia thinking things are what they
appear to be.

Speaker 5 (01:09:38):
Yes, But even if it isn't pretty weird, it could
be some type of wreckage or part of an old machine.
I watched Bryan's documentary Blue Planet Red and one of

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the researchers come mented about what metal would look like
if it was exposed to COW two for a very
long time. And the erosion that takes plice on metal
under those conditions is very random, and it doesn't follow

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any sort of patterns, you know, it's very random. So
these this could be metal that was exposed to CO
two on Mars for a very long time, and that's
why there's a piece missing here. We don't know, but yeah,
that that's us a very interesting yep. And then this

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it's on a ridge of these rarely strange dunes that
look like vines or roots, but that they are compared
to the Jupiter.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
To us and other researchers, it's either a ship or
it's an aps revational They're.

Speaker 5 (01:11:02):
Correct, that's what I think as well. It could be
an observation platform with these huge windows in it, because
there's nothing else like it in this photograph and it
looks metallic it does, and it's huge. It's one hundred
and ten meters across. Could this be one of the
solo Warden craft?

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Do you know? Hard to say?

Speaker 5 (01:11:27):
Okay, let's have a look at that. What was it?
The stone engines? Eh, let's see right, where's my browser?
This will be edited out.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
No, it's good, you're clean, it's fine, don't worry.

Speaker 5 (01:11:48):
Megalithic Mares. This is my website, folks. We call it
Megalithic Mars because you've seen the evidence. Why let's see
inge h Stone Ange Luck anomalies on Mars.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
Wow, oh, look at that? Amazing that.

Speaker 5 (01:12:15):
Where's this?

Speaker 6 (01:12:16):
This is in.

Speaker 5 (01:12:22):
Uh? This this trallis Nilo Curtis.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
Men say minsay yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:12:31):
The other one.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
Where was this?

Speaker 5 (01:12:35):
I call it the Eye of the Beholder. The third
one was in Kanowski.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
Okay, So it's funny how these are up on a
they're up.

Speaker 3 (01:12:46):
On a.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
Amount a ridge, they're on a mound.

Speaker 5 (01:12:53):
Yes, yeah, people reckon that's a depression and they inside
the depression that that's the meteorite that broke, but this
is actually a mound. Then the other one there you
can see part of it. Yeah, the race is covered
in sand.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
Mhmm.

Speaker 5 (01:13:12):
You look at the smaller version and then the one
in Kanowski.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
Oh there you go. Yeah, that could be that. They
look like they're huge stones.

Speaker 5 (01:13:32):
Yeah. In a secular shot. Yeah, slag Steininge destroyed as well.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
Yeah, amazing, these are fantastic images. I want to take
a segment here as we conclude. Gene and You have
done a couple of different presentations that feature three I atlas,

(01:14:00):
and this has been in the news. We had doctor
Avy Lobe on the program a couple of times talking
about what many astronomer's figure is just a a meteor
flying in the air. But you're showing some very unique images,

(01:14:22):
especially of the photos that were taken by the rover.
He show us all of those, because the one shot
is a cylindrical tube like image that has round faces
and there it's definitely artificial.

Speaker 5 (01:14:39):
It's not you know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
And everybody's freaking out about this phenomenon, this asteroid right
now because it's headed our way in a few weeks.

Speaker 5 (01:14:53):
What can you see me scrawling through the directory. Yeah,
I mean this s he's working again. I think let
me show you more recent one. Uh where is it now?

Speaker 7 (01:15:17):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:15:22):
I think it's in this one.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
There it is the screen, the cylinders beautiful.

Speaker 5 (01:15:31):
Okay, so this is two two days after three Atlas
past news. That's where it was at the time. Why
past news. These things were photographed by the left and
right navigation cameras. Check there. People reckon, this is phireboss

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that was photograph but because of long exposure time made
that long cigar like shape. But look at conventional magnification
to the right compared to the gigapixel upscale. You'll see
there's these lines on it spaced even their part. And

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that's what it looks like when it's upscaled. That doesn't
look like like a moon that's been photographed in a
long exposure either those openings or huge windows. There's the
original People say that that could be a phoboss.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
That doesn't look like it doesn't look like a typical
media media eight.

Speaker 5 (01:16:50):
No, No, this isn't three our atlas. No, that is
way too far for the rivers to have actually been
able to photograph it. To what they did photograph was
this is the right, This is the other camera that
took a photograph of the same object at the same
time and the same day, so the text life. So

(01:17:13):
this isn't three i at lists that you see. This
was a potential probe.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
Oh, this is a probe that people think came out
of three I at lists.

Speaker 5 (01:17:24):
Yes, yes, because o vilbe proposes that if it is
an artificial object like a mothership, it's dropping off drawings maybe,
so this could be one of those. But at the
same time, so what those things were photographed? The mast
can on the perseverance driver took a series of twenty

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four photographs, and this is what shows up there. There's
that object that you see moving there, and very faint
behind it is another one that's following it. You won't
be able to see it. It's a bit faint. I'll

(01:18:07):
show you a better animation. And then there's a third
one somewhere. I can't remember where it is now.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
So are these all the same dimensions as this three
A atlas?

Speaker 5 (01:18:21):
No, these are small objects, smaller objects, Okay, that that
I speculate or part of this three atlas anomally that's
got lots of smaller parts to it. Accompanying objects okay,
so let me show you the other animation that was

(01:18:44):
taken on the fourth. This was on the fifth of
this month, October. Yes, so this was two days after.
This was a day after. Now what happened was this
thing also showed up near the perseverance driver and that's

(01:19:08):
what it looks like close up. And now let's have
a look at At the same time as what the
knafcams photograph that strange cigar shape thing, the mass came
to twenty photographs that show an animation of about nine objects.

(01:19:30):
Maybe I should go to the black and white. Yeah,
you can see them. Can you see those lines?

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
That's how I'm on both of them. You can see
the only thing. There's the only thing moving.

Speaker 5 (01:19:40):
Right so there. Yeah, I can see one, two, three, four, five, six.
So this isn't the moon of Mars. There's nine objects
that were photographed in this frame.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
Gene, you're taking photos of you aps, buddy, that's what
that is. You got UAPs you're capturing with that rover camera.

Speaker 5 (01:20:07):
So is this debris of the comet it's coming past
Mars or are these possibly drowns or probes that were
deployed exactly? So, yeah, that that's the latest time.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
One note fantastic.

Speaker 5 (01:20:28):
Let's have a look if NICA has published anything on
the high Rah's website, because this is where we'll see
I resolution images of Atlas. So this is the Mars
Reconnaissance Orbitter higher Ese website, so this is where I

(01:20:50):
download these massive photographs. And since the first of October
the site has not been updated. So NASA's are either
withholding the photographs and the data, or it could be
because of the financial lockdown.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
So you're thinking that the federal government shutdown is affecting
their release of new photos.

Speaker 5 (01:21:20):
No, why would even if it's state owned. Wouldn't you
have a bank account with capital in it to pay
your staff? I don't know, to be so dependent on
the federal government that you get them daily money from
these guys. Don't you have a budget?

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
Well, the thing is that.

Speaker 5 (01:21:43):
Affecting NASA? I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
Well, there could be a budget. But also one of
the things that the Trump administration is doing is cutting
out frivolous spending, and a high rise might be frivolous spending.
We don't know what.

Speaker 7 (01:21:58):
Oh, yes, of course it's a perfect it's a cot
if that's the excuse, like using I think it's just
buying time to analyze these photographs and to prepare a narrative.

Speaker 5 (01:22:14):
Are we going to present this to the public. What
are we going to shout them? What are we going
to tell them?

Speaker 2 (01:22:19):
This is so? Are you're saying that the high rise
may have captured some compromising images of the A I
three three I at.

Speaker 5 (01:22:28):
Lis potentially potentially because I saw quiet and the lack
of feedback and commentary, by leaving it up to us
now to speculate what the hell is going on.

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
Which is kind of sad. We paid billions of dollars
in an assa. I think the rovers are useless, except
this is the first time I've seen some very nice
images of the sky and potential UAPs. But I always
joked and my find this hilarious Gene that in my thinking,

(01:23:05):
you have the rover bumping in the stairways, bumping into
columns of temples and everything. But they're turning the camera
away to look for microbes. They want to find microbes,
and that there was one. You know, That's that's how
a backwards nassa is, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:23:21):
And I have already if you look at the evidence
that that Brian features these anomalies in his documentary as well.
I found fossils microbial life. Is it varnish? All these
things are related to microbial life.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:23:44):
I show a photograph of this, this strange little creature
a country member and it's called now it looks like
a worm. But you find them here on earth to
in in the oceans. I found one on moss and
instead of taking multiple photographs of it under different loting
conditions and angles to Mike, sure what this is, I

(01:24:07):
took that scuffing drilled bit and drolled it out of
the roock. And that to me is lock destroying evidence.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
Well, they are complicit in this huge cover up. I
think JPL, NaSTA, gpls out here in California, and uh,
they're the ones who are working the rovers. But I
they're running into anomalies of of damaged machinery, temples, megalists

(01:24:41):
like you're showing, and they're they're not sitting any of
that back to anybody. That's all being covered up. They can't,
you know. And I've always said that. I've always said
that if they ever are it's revealed that they are
covering up, they should all be fired. The administration should
be fired for not revealing it.

Speaker 5 (01:25:03):
But yes, there's there's one of those funny worm like
things at the rather the sand moved away after a
drive through the sandy patch and it revealed that funny thing. Yeah,
but I want to show you where is that?

Speaker 4 (01:25:24):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
Where is it?

Speaker 5 (01:25:29):
Liquid water?

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:25:32):
These are the categories. Sorry, there there's Gary McKinnon talking
about is acting of.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
The Thanks for showing that's your website. I'm definitely going
to go back and look at that. I didn't know
you had. That's such a resource in your website. You
have tons of archives.

Speaker 5 (01:25:53):
Oh no, this isn't it. I can't remember where that
photography is of the mind microbe, but it was discovered
in a meteorite here on Earth. Yeah was microbe. Oh,
there's a lot of evidence of that. And then let
me show you varnish and this has found recently. I

(01:26:18):
mean this was on the twentieth September twenty twenty five.
There's the photograph from the Sherlock camera and there's the
desert varnish. But they won't say it is They won't
say it's desert vanish.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
Is it a betina where the heat of something?

Speaker 5 (01:26:43):
No, it's a life form that you find that grows
on the surface of rocks in the desert. Oh, it's
a form of microbial life. Yeah, they've inscribed symbols on it.
This is at a sight in the Valley of Fire
and Yellow Las Vegas. But the stuff is there on

(01:27:04):
most look at.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
That fascinating, fascinating.

Speaker 5 (01:27:12):
That saw as the sime lyering, the sime cracking away
at the edges.

Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
Hey, well, Geane, this has been amazing. I want to
thank you for showing us this resource and your work
is just outstanding. What do you think, I mean, as
a researcher and investigator, what would you like to see
in the next five or six years in terms of imagery,

(01:27:39):
I mean, they're only going to release so much.

Speaker 5 (01:27:42):
But in terms of imagery, well, the sime is what
we see now because these anomalies are released to the
public in publicly available photographs, but with common entry from
them where they speculating. Listen, this could be a structure.

Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:28:07):
The only scientists I know or maybe two, doctor John
Brandenburg and Ouvelobe, those are basically the only two guys
that I know of that actually speculate, and there are
some res don't speculate anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
They don't want to. They don't want to talk these
other scientists that are a GPO because they will be
humiliated laughed at. Or is it kind of like kept
secret and this and that you're not supposed to talk
about it because secret knowledge.

Speaker 5 (01:28:41):
Yeah, secret knowledge is power occultic, it's very to their
cult satisfaction. In your cult that likes secret knowledge, they
keep it to themselves because it's powerful. Maybe it's said,
I don't know, but I would like to see the
truth transparency from NASA. Yeah, and the other SPICE agencies too.

(01:29:03):
I mean, if I've found something, tell us yes, this
is one of these done side. We need more evidence,
We need more evidence, like the Viking Landers. I've found
traces of life in the seventies, but they won't say
it is because they said it's inconclusive. But according to
the guy that designed the experiment, he says it was conclusive.

(01:29:26):
I just want them to be truthful and honest and yeah,
start fan.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
Yeah. Sorry, we didn't even talk about Sidonia, which is
pretty black and white with the face on Mars and
with the other buildings, the fort, the DNM pyramid, and
that's obviously was a civic area where people met Uh,
but don't. We don't talk about that anymore. It's the

(01:29:53):
most secondary to so excuse me for interrupting. Go ahead, go.

Speaker 5 (01:29:56):
Ahead, No, sure, sure, Cliff. Yeah, as I was saying,
Ellen stuff and a NASA chief scientist at the time,
when I saw the Ancient Aliens episode on the Eastreet channel,
she quote she actually said within the next five to
ten years, we will have a definitive hang on. I

(01:30:19):
can actually I don't want to miss quote ya technically,
just see I'm not sharing a Ellen stuff and where
she she actually said something very important?

Speaker 2 (01:30:41):
Where is it?

Speaker 5 (01:30:44):
Sorry, Cliff?

Speaker 2 (01:30:45):
Is she an ex NASA employee or something? Who did
she work?

Speaker 5 (01:30:49):
No? I think look at the time she was when
was this twenty seventeen on Ancient Aliens Majestic twelve the
episode was cooled, she said, I think we are going
to have strong indicators now they'll be start again. I

(01:31:09):
think we are gonna have strong indications of life beyond
within a decade. And I think we are going to
have a definitive evidence within twenty to thirty years. Doesn't
that sound like I know it's already Well, they're.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
Going to have to reveal it because they're gonna be
the Chinese are gonna put a rover on Mars and
they're gonna be humiliated. So Gane, this has been fantastic.
I want to thank you for spending the time with
my audience here at Earth Ancients, and I really appreciate
your hard work. You're one of the top imaging guys

(01:31:48):
out there, and I really appreciate you joining us for
It's been over an hour now. For those of you listening,
go to George George gene Wards website, gene Ward on YouTube.
Also YouTube channel is excellent. I'm sorry, what how you

(01:32:09):
put up a new video every two weeks.

Speaker 5 (01:32:11):
Or what every two to three days? I put up
a YouTube video. Then I also have my Megalithic mass
dot com blog blog there every two to three days.
Everything you see on my YouTube channel you also see
on my blog all the images or on my blog

(01:32:32):
as well.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
Fantastic.

Speaker 5 (01:32:33):
I would like to watch videos. You can go and
check those images on my blog, uh megalithicmass dot com
on YouTube, on YouTube dot com, forward slash j E
I N W A R D and on X I'm
Jean Ward Mars.

Speaker 2 (01:32:52):
Fantastic, Gene, what a pleasure, my friend.

Speaker 5 (01:32:56):
Thank you very much, the lighthoo are talking about the subject.
I can't believe it's an hour and off light.

Speaker 2 (01:33:05):
It cheers.

Speaker 5 (01:33:08):
We must.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
Gene's collection is worth a good look. If you don't
get to the YouTube channel, you can see it on
the Facebook page go to Earth Ancients. It'll be both
in the public and private group. And I really urge
you to see his Gene Ward channel. Just go to
Gene war Ward. And he's been doing this for a

(01:33:36):
few years. So he's got collections of specific types of monuments, anomalies, buildings,
and a hell of a lot of pyramids, which is great. Uh.
The civilization that was on Mars were pyramid cultures, megalithic
pyramid cultures. So so there you have it, Mars the

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