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September 27, 2025 75 mins
First International Congress of Forbidden History

(FICFH) Location: Piedmont Region, Northern ItalyVenues: CASA REGINA MONTIS REGALIS, Piazza Carlo Emanuele 4, 12080 Vicoforte, Italy / Bardo Duchy, via delle Volte 2, 12080 Torre Mondovì, ItalyDates: October 18–19, 2025Organized by: The Eighth Continent Group

The Eighth Continent Group explores ancient civilizations and forbidden history, challenging mainstream narratives through research, publications, and events led by international experts Rafael Videla Eissmann and Diego Antolini.

The First International Congress of Forbidden History is a groundbreaking cultural and scientific gathering that challenges traditional academic narratives by exploring fundamental grounds on history, archaeology, mythology, anthropology and PaleoSETI, that is, the “Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence in Antiquity”, among other fields, offering a visionary lens on humanity's origins and development.

Unlike mainstream symposiums, our Congress will present eloquent evidence that has been systematically ignored by traditional academia: Striking fields of knowledge that conform a brand new understating of human history and the planetary cycles.We don’t just host events; we curate intellectual awakening.

The First International Congress of Forbidden History will offer the fundamental ideas of the most avant-garde researchers in these fields who, for the first time, will meet in an event of global impact. Authors and researchers such as Diego Antolini, Marco Bulloni, Peter Fiebag, Nikunj Irani, George Nefedyev, Rafael Videla Eissmann, and Alessandro Scavia will be present. Along with them, the Rabdo Team and the Italian Cultural Association Akakor Geographical Exploring will address fields that challenge established notions of history. 

The event has a capacity for 200 spectators (Information & Tickets at: www.eighthcontinentgroup.com).

It will be streamed offline on October 30th, 2025. 

Marco Bulloni is a Nuclear Engineer who was born in Italy.
A month later he was already abroad, accompanying his parents, and for 16 years he had
the good luck to travel around the world.
This brought him into contact with the different peoples of Africa, Asia and the Middle East
and gave birth to his passion for history, archaeology, mythology, astronomic beliefs of
ancient civilizations.
Since he was a boy he has dedicated most of his spare time to his passion: the common
origins of the Indo-European languages, the spread of civilization, the unsolved mysteries
of our past.
Today he lives in Milan, even if he considers himself a citizen of the world.
This book is just the first of numerous others devoted to the existence of the real Atlantis.
Writing books is only an aspect of a bigger project of the author, which includes
conferences, meetings, international research projects, future discoveries, new adventures
in space and time.
A website, at the address www.theralatlantis.com will be devoted to this important
discovery, and to all the future researches.

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Speaker 1 (00:19):
You know, it's fun to read the newspaper or reads
the internet for news on what's going on, and sometimes
it validates material that we have here on the podcast.
There's an article that came out recently on CNN and
that validates our recent guest, Michael Kream. Will remember he

(00:39):
was promoting his book Extreme Human Antiquity, and it looks
like China has been sitting on a human skull that's
over one million years old. Let me repeat that, over
one million years old. And up to that time or
up till now, at least the oldest human Homo sapien

(01:02):
skeleton that we've had is about three hundred thousand years old.
And this is a really, really big indication that we
need to sit tight when it comes to dates on
skeletal remains because it looks like it's going to get
older as well. And this is something that has been
of great interest to me as well as many other

(01:24):
people in the Anomalist History segment. Hey, this is clip
your host of Earth Asients, and we got an article
that came out just this morning on CNN and I'm
going to post it on the Facebook page but also
on notes for this podcast, and what's fascinating. Not only

(01:47):
it is a modernist skull, but it really validates what
Michael's been researching. Another thing that is known to most
people who read Michael's work, especially Forbid in archaeology, is
a lot of discoveries were made before the turn of
the century and they were chronicled by early archaeologists who

(02:09):
wrote articles about bones being found in different strata, some
of them found in the cold mime and it needed
to have modern analysis to reveal the true age of
many of the skeleton remains. But here's what I and
I'm going to read this to you just a few paragraphs.

(02:33):
This is the article that came out. This is why
this is important. A skull unearthed in China challenges the
timeline of human evolution. Scientists say a badly crushed cranium
on Earth decades ago from a riverbank in central China
that once defied classification is now shaking up the human

(02:54):
family tree. According to new analysis, scientists digitally reconstructed the
squash skull, thought to be one million years old, and
its features suggest that the fossil belonged to the same
lineage as a striking specimen called dragon Man and the Denisovans,

(03:16):
a recently discovered population of prehistoric humans with murky origins.
The skull's age and categorization as a early Denisovan ancestor
would mean the group originated much earlier than thought. The researchers.
Wider analysis, based on the reconstruction of the more than

(03:37):
one hundred other skull fossils, has also sketched a radically
different picture of human evolution, they reported Thursday in the
journal Science. The results significantly shift the timeline for species
such as our own Homo sapiens and Homo Neanderthalsals archaic

(04:01):
humans also lived in Europe and Central Asia before disappearing
around forty thousand years ago, are known to have lived
alongside the Dignificence and innerbred with them. This changes a
lot of thinking because it suggests that by one million
years ago, our ancestors had already split into distinctive groups,

(04:24):
pointing to a much earlier and more complex human evolutionary
split than previously believe, said study co author Chris Springer,
paleo anthropologist and research leader in human evolution at London's
Natural History Museum, in an email. So that's about as

(04:44):
much as I want to read right now, But you
can read the whole thing if you go to CNN
and punching a skull unearthed in China, or just go
to Facebook and you can see all the details under
Earth ancients. Now, remember the the Vedic history of the
world is very, very old, and this is why we
fall on the cyclic history of Earth through the Yugas.

(05:10):
And if you calculate the Yugas, they go into hundreds
of millions of years, because there's a continual cycle. And
so I personally don't have a problem when Michael says
they have found modern humans to live a million years,
ten million years, and as much as one hundred million

(05:33):
years in the past. Because our world is a cycle.
We develop in some cases to a high degree and
then we de evolve either through our own huberis could
be well, could be bombs, could be disease, could be
some great catastrophe. It could be through outer space some

(06:01):
form of sun energy release sun spots that are so
powerful that burns everything on the surface of the planet.
We don't know, but to say that we're the only
ones around. We've always been the high the most sophisticated
people that doesn't really ring well. And here on Earth ancients.

(06:22):
We find and report on evidence of ancient civilizations that
were here before us that have left their remains. Now,
every single week, it seems like I find more evidence
that the Egyptians, the Pharaohs that are best known, were
reusing temples and reusing tomb goods and pyramids. We know

(06:49):
if pyramids were not made for tombs, but if they
if the pyramids were made one hundred thousand years ago
the civilization was gone, then whoever came back to the
area and resettled, they're going to have another purpose for
the pyramids. They're going to use it for they have
other needs for it, and eventually the most recent group's

(07:10):
going to use it for tombs. But this is the
kind of the theme, is that we're going to have
to dig a little deeper and be open to the
possibilities of very early people. And so this is this
is a fascinating consideration. So check out that article from

(07:30):
CNN and hold your breath, because I think there's more
to come. One million year old skeleton. So today's program
is a continuation of our support for the first International
Congress of Forbidden History, and we have a guest, Marco Baloni,

(07:53):
who wrote a book called I Discovered the Real Atlantis.
He is an Italian scientists and he has written a
couple of books and written an article that he's presenting
at the congress. Remember that's October eighteenth of the nineteenth
in Milan. For more information, go to Eighth Continentgroup dot

(08:17):
com and they're going to offer a streaming program. I
think they're only charging five dollars, which is simply amazing
because that's nothing for two days of presentations. So go
to the website. Check it out again. It's the first
International Congress of Forbidden History October eighteenth and nineteenth. If

(08:38):
you're in Italy, check it out in person. They are
I think they have seats for a few hundred people.
So you come, you show up, and you enjoy. So
we're in support of that program. We've had a couple
of other people on the show. The founders are our
friend Raphael Eisman, the historian from Chile, as well as

(09:00):
some other people. I'd love to have a multi cultural
presentation on Earth ancients. We have presenters from all over
the world, and I really think that's important to promote.
So today's program is I Discovered the Real Atlantis and
my guest is Marco Belloni. Hey, we're going to be

(09:25):
in the jungle this December first to the twelfth on
the Guatemala Sacred Temple Tour, and this is an opportunity
not only to climb pyramids, but to interact with the
local shaman in understanding what the Maya were up to,
their state of mind and ceremony, to connect with the
sacred temples and pyramids that will interact with. This is

(09:48):
a chance to not only climb pyramids connect with them,
but also to take in the spirit and the consciousness
that is the the genius of the Maya. If you'd
like to join us, go to Earthancients dot com, forward
slash Tours and you'll see all the details. To get

(10:08):
details on the Guatemala tour, send an email to me
at Earth Ancients the number four of the letter you
at gmail dot com and join me for a private
zoom conference with our hosts Lydia and Arturo di Leong. Again,
the Guatemala tour is December first to the twelfth, twenty

(10:30):
twenty five. For more information, go to Earth Agents dot com,
forward slash Tours or send me an email Earth Agents
the number four the letter YOUU at gmail dot com
for a discussion on just what we'll be doing. This
tour is perfect for you. Rth Answers is a sponsor

(11:22):
of the first International Congress of Forbidden History. It's going
to be October eighteenth of the nineteenth. It's going to
be held in Italy. But if you're interested in the
streaming version, go to Eighth Continentgroup dot com and it'll
be streamed an available October thirtieth. And this is a

(11:44):
program that our friend Raphael Eisman along with the team,
has put together. And my guest today is Marco Bollini.
He is the author of the Atlantis Libyrinth and this
is a fascinating book simply because he believes and it
looks very compelling that he has found the fabled Atlantis

(12:09):
in the Ice region of Russia. We're gonna hear all
about it and we're gonna get the details. Marco is
a nuclear engineer born in Italy and he has had
a study and an interest in history and archaeology, mythology
and the history of Atlantis. And he lives in Milan

(12:35):
and he's coming to us with details of this new
book he'll be speaking on I can't remember what had
to ask him the eighteenth of the nineteenth as part
of this new conference called the First International Congress of
Forbidden History. So Marco, welcome to Earth the Ancient is
great to have you on the program.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Hello everybody, Hello Cleief.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
So tell us a little bit about yourself. How did
you get interested in Atlantis? It's a myth. We thought
I was a myth, but you actually may have found it.
How did you get involved in the discovery of this.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
So, Cliff, Actually, I leaved abroad since I was very young.
When I was born. I just left Italy and went
in Jordan. Then I went in Nigerily and then in Pakistan,
and so I spent the first sixteen years of my
life abroad. And during these continuous changes in different countries

(13:40):
and the continents, my father was working for a building
company and when they were working the ground, many times
they found many archaeological finding. So the city is under
the ground. And I was a young boy and was

(14:02):
fascinated by the fact that the houses were not only
over the ground, but they were also under and they
were maybe past a thousands year and nobody knew why
this happened. So for the whole life I've been fascinated
by archaeology and mythology. And another important thing that of

(14:24):
which I was interested is the fact that there is
a common language between European languages and Indian languages. I
was able since I was young eighty years old. I
was able to understand people Pakistani people talking in Urdu
and I was talking just in Italian, and we were

(14:47):
able to understand each other. So when I came in Italy,
then I studied this problem and I found that there
is an important hypothesis of a common origin of the
Indo Europeans languages. So the scientists think that there was
maybe a place, a commonplace in which people were living together,

(15:10):
or maybe they were just so near and so close
one to each other that they were able to understand
each other and the language was just one. This happened
thousands years ago, but nobody knows where. So I was
fascinated by these important solution, and so I tried to

(15:32):
understand or continue to look at new archaeological findings, new
discoveries in order to study this problem. And during my
continuous research researches, I found a place in the north
of Europe which had many interesting and fascinating buildings towers, walls,

(15:57):
and none of us was able to know this place
because there are no many tourists going there and visit
this place. So when I saw these archaeological findings, actually
I reminded the meat of Athleanties written by Plato, and

(16:21):
so I started to study it. I used the story
of Plato, and I divided the story in arguments, and
for each argument presented by Plato, I tried to understand
if this place was possible to find what he was looking,
what it was explaining, And I found so many informations

(16:46):
that at the end of my studies, after three years
of studies and for travels done in the place, I
decided to write a book. So my idea was not
to study the Atlantis meat, but I have been completely
fascinated by the place in which I found all these findings.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
So Marco, let me ask you, so, when did you
begin thinking that Plato's myth of Atlantis was a real place?
Was it like a five years ago, ten years ago.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
No, during two thousand and seven, so seventeen years ago.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Seventeen years ago, yes, And in your research you began
looking for geological locations.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
What was the.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Compelling evidence that you found in the Soviet region that
made you think that that was where Atlantis was.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
So the first important thing was the fact that I
have used that. There were many evidences regarding details described
by Plato. For example, Plato talks about an acropolis which towers,
big towers and big walls made of stones. And in

(18:17):
this place there is a major monastery that the history
Russian history tells us that have been built by monks
during the sixteenth century after Christ. And my opinion is
that the monks actually found the ruins of a presisting

(18:40):
structure and they just recovered it, so they did not
build everything from zero, but they found it destroyed. So
this was my first information and I decided to continue
that is, using satellite views USINGSA data. So the NASA

(19:09):
at the time was the only one that was possible
to use because actually Google did not work so well
as today. So we using NESA word wind, I analyzed
all the details of the territory and I found a

(19:30):
structure which had a central mountain in the middle of
the island. I measured the dimensions of the island, and
the dimension were exactly the one described by Plato. Plato
says that the island had a radius of fifty study,
which is nine kilometers. According to many measurements, the diameter

(19:53):
of the island was eighteen kilometers. So this was the
first important thing. Then I tried to emphasize the structure
of the territory, and I found also a possible localization
of the circular rings of which Plato talks about top

(20:15):
Plato talks about rings of water off the sea and
of land, and so there is a structure which resembles
the decision of Plato. But of course the island has
been destroyed, and so not any place is possible to
visit to see this symmetrical structure. But in some places

(20:39):
of the island this is possible. So I continued all
my researches. I've done a list of hundred items, and
I went on the island without talking Russia, without talking English,
because nobody was able to understand anything ex a Russia. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yeah, So let's write people, let's just say where it is.
It's it's in Solovetski Acapello, which is in uh it's.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
In the middle of the White Sea, the.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Middle of the White Sea. Yes, and so describe and
you're doing a good job of it. Describe what Plato
presents as what uh Atlantis looks like, and the similarities
of the acapello that you're telling us is Atlantics.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yes, yes, there are. There are many elements described by
Plato that can be seen on the island. Of course,
the first important thing is the presence of this major monastery,
as I told Plato tsic about the acropolis. On the acropolis,

(21:53):
Plato talks about the temple devoted to Pos eight on
the King of the Sea. It gives us some measures.
He says that the temple of Oozidon was one hundred
and eighty meters per ninety meters, and these are exactly
the measurements that you can measure inside in the internal

(22:17):
part of the acropolis. So there are walls that are
rectangular and exactly these dimensions. Plato talks about a small
island in which the king lived, which was five stadia
diameter less than nine hundred meters, And in the island

(22:38):
you can find the ruins of walls that are at
a distance of nine hundred meters from the cropolis. So
the acropolis was in the center of a very small island,
which was the King's island. Then a Plata talks about
a giant island with these circular rings, which was fifty

(23:01):
stadia in radios, which means eighteen kilometers in diameters, and
you can measure exactly these dimensions. So there is circulear island,
which is Solovatski Island, which has this structure and this symmetry.
Then Plato talks about also represents a giant plane which

(23:29):
was five thousand stadia per three thousand stadia, which means
nine hundred kilometers for five hundred kilometers. Most of the
researchers up to now interpreted these evidence of the plane

(23:49):
as a giant island. But studying very deeply the description
of Plato, it is possible to understand that this plane
was in front of the island. It was not in
the island, So the island was eighteen kilometers and in
front of the island was a giant plane of nine

(24:11):
hundred kilometers. This giant plane is a Karelian plane which
is near Finland, between Finland and Solavski Island. So there
are many elements, and of course the dimensions described a
Plato that can be measured by everybody, so you can

(24:32):
find many elements that are absolutely coherent with the description
of Platum.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Now, one of the things that I found was very compelling,
are actual ruins You actually show archaeological ruins of buildings
and things, Yes, and have any of these. First of all,
let me ask you this, how did you get it
permission to go to Russia as an Italian? Because as

(25:00):
most people can't go to that part of the world,
how did you get in?

Speaker 2 (25:04):
No? No, at that time. Actually, now maybe it is
very difficult to go. I don't know if it is
simple to enter in Russia. But at that time it
was possible to visit Russia as a tourist. So my
visa was just for tourism and just to visit the island.

(25:27):
So this has been possible. Everybody can go, of course
and visit it. Another important information is that Solovetski Island
was the first gulag of the history of Russia. So,
for example, Alexander s Jenisin has been jailed in Solovetski

(25:49):
Island and when he wrote Archipelago Gulag, he was talking
about Slovatski. You can find in his book the same
photos that I have done in my book, because it
presents this island as an island in which it's very
difficult to leave and escape. So this is the reason

(26:12):
why became the first jail of history of the Russian history,
and according to me, was exactly the same reason why
the kings of Atlantis decided to build this structure in
the island, because it was very difficult to reach it

(26:33):
in the middle of the White Sea. It is not
so to arrive.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
So tell us some of the characteristics of Slovsky Island.
That is, I mean, you've given us a sense of it.
Where for our listeners, where is it located geologically, geographically,
geographically in other words, where do we give us some
landmarks so we can get a sense of where it's

(27:00):
located in the ocean.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yes, you should look at the map of Europe. You
just go to the north and arrive at the Finland latitude.
Then you just go a little bit on the right
you will find a Karelia plane and then the White

(27:22):
Sea in the middle of the White Sea. Because nobody
studies the White Sea because it is Russian and is
not European. So we talk about the giant continent Russia,
but nobody knows that there is an important sea which
is in connection with the Arctic Sea in the Barren Sea,

(27:45):
in the north, so it is these island are not
far from the polar circle. And this is very important
in my study because I give an importance to the
fact that those latitudes during the nights in the winter,
all the all the stars just rotate all over the horizon,

(28:14):
so like an umbrella. So this should have fascinated our
ancestors and maybe decided that that place was a holy
place devoted to Atlas. The Atlas was the giant who
sustained the whole heaven. So there are many elements in

(28:37):
mythology that become maybe a real history in those places
at those latitudes.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Okay, you given us a sense of the island according
to Plato, with the concentric circles, the canals and the
various landmarks. We're gonna take a short our show break
to allow our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will
return shortly with my guest today, Marco Boloney discussing his

(29:10):
latest book, I Discovered the Real Atlantis. We'll be right
back earth the Ancients to support and sponsoring the first

(30:01):
International Congress of Forbidden History, and my guest today, Marco Boloni,
is one of the keynote speakers. His topic based on
His research is called I Discovered the Real Atlantis. Tell

(30:22):
us about the various destructions that are featured in Plato's
and his work and how that relates to the island.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Yes, the destruction of Ireland is another controversial element that
has been studied by researchers up to now, and most
of the researchers have concluded that the highland was completely
destroyed and was under the sea, so it was not

(30:57):
possible to visit it and see it. For example, as
many researchers decided that Atlas Atlantis was in the middle
of the Atlantic Ocean, but it was not possible to see.
Many decided that it was in the Mediterranean and so

(31:20):
maybe it was Santorini that exploded with the volcano, so
it is not possible to visit it. But Plato did
not say this. Plato rights, in need a description of
the island that the island went under the water, but
then it appeared again, and Plato says that up today

(31:44):
it is very difficult to navigate around the island. So
this means that the island was still present and existed
when Plato wrote this history. Plato said that on the island,
nobody was able to live on the island, but only
bees and animals. So he talks about something which is

(32:06):
evident and present. Plateau says that are still visible today
the ruins of all the sanctuaries that have been built
near the waters. So he talks about something which is visible,
which is physically present, and it is not under the sea.

(32:28):
So according to my reconstruction and my idea, the island
has been destroyed, but a giant tsunami, probably arriving from
the Barren Sea, so the north the Arctic Sea entered
in the canal that connects the Y Sea with the

(32:48):
Barren Sea, and there's been a completely destroyed. So those
who saw the island they exactly so that the island
went under the water, but then the island was able
to come up again, completely destroyed. And if you just
look at the Solovetski shores, they are completely destroyed. You cannot.

(33:15):
It is very difficult to make a tour around the
Solovetzki island. You have to take hours and hours because
it is full of mens, so it is not very
simple to Also, the island is full of marches. There
are more than six hundred lakes, so this means that
the island has been destroyed exactly as Plateau said, but

(33:40):
it is still visible today.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Talk a little bit about the dating. Most people believe
that the destruction of Atlantis was around nine five hundred BC,
twelve years ago. Your dates are much more recent. Talk
about those dates.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
According to me, this has been another important mistake made
by researchers before my studies, because when Plato talks about
the destruction of the island that happened nine thousand years
before he knew the story, we should understand that nine

(34:27):
thousand years ago, let's say, or maybe before plato description,
there were no metals, so there was no gold, there
was no bronze, copper, tea, the human being was not
able to use these elements. Plato talks about horses. Nine

(34:50):
thousand years before his description, nobody was able. No human
being was able to use horses. And so there is
a miss match between the nine thousand years described by
Plato and all the other elements of his history. So
my interpretation is that there has been a mistake when

(35:17):
this story has been transferred from those who who visited
the island, and so that the island was destroyed, then
they talked to the Egyptians. Then the Egyptians presented this
history to the Plato ancestor. Then Plato studied and wrote

(35:39):
the description of the destruction. There has been many persons
and people that understood the different things, and so the
nine thousand years actually must be considered nine thousand periods
of time. If we considered periods of time, we can

(35:59):
interpret the period of time as a lunar month and
not a solar ear. So if we consider lunar months,
we can calculate the destruction of the island happened between
the fourteenth and the thirteenth century before Christ and it

(36:24):
was a very important period because in that period we
registrate register the transition between the Bronze Age and the
Iron Age, and Plato talks about the presence of bronze
in Atlantis, but not about iron. So it is very

(36:46):
important because this means that this period of time is
coherent with many other elementars of his descriptions. And it
is not completely impossible. Let's say it is possible, probable,
and so this must be proved of course.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Okay, Now there's a lot of speculation about the location
of Atlantis. Charles Hapgood, in his Maps of Ancient Sea Kings,
believes that the location of the island shifted during this
geological event that was a catastrophe where asteroids came and

(37:26):
destroyed not only Atlantis, but a lot of other locations
and moved it from the Pacific to he believes itself
it's Antarctica. Are you saying that the location of your
Atlantis has always been there or did it change?

Speaker 2 (37:46):
It was exactly in the same position that's been destroyed
because it was made of grounded and so it was
very simple to destroy Atlantis with a giant tsunami. But
it never changed. So the position of the island was

(38:08):
exactly the same.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Okay, let's talk about in chapter seven, you have the
constructions of the island, and do we see the foundations
of buildings and towers and things that are ancient they've
just been built over? To talk about what we see?
What do we see now?

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yes, in the book, I will present more than two
hundred photos of the places, and in particular I present
these all the structures or the buildings, all the houses
may that have been built in the island have foundations

(38:55):
that are made of giant rocks. And so, according to
my opinion, the foundations are very old. They belong to
the period of Atlantis, and they have been just used
again in the last centuries in order to build houses.
So when you go around you see places that recall

(39:21):
you ball back, for example, with rocks of tones and
tones that, according to my opinion, cannot be used. The
monks during the sixteenth century after Christ should have not
been able to build a giant structure like this. It

(39:42):
wasn't it is unusual. They were alone. They were just
therefore praying the whole day. They were very a number
of a few number of monks, So they should have
not done this effort. And this effort must have been
done by some body who will considered this island very

(40:02):
holy island for religious thinking, and so they have done
an effort, enormous effort. But everybody can see and visit
the place. For example, if you just connect yourself with
the Google max On Solovetski and you see the voters
that are you will be fascinated by the fact that

(40:26):
these ruins are incredible.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Have any archaeological digs been done to the island or
any studies from archaeological institutions.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yes, I during my expeditions in the island, and I've
made four expeditions In several years, I've done many interviews
to archaeologists, not only on the island on Slovesti Island,
but also in Saint Petersbush Saint Petersburg, because it was

(41:01):
for me very important to understand what the archaeologists think
about this place and what they have found. The most
important thing is that Russian archaeologists, archaeologists in the last
thirty years of discoveries, have found something like fifty thousand

(41:25):
archaeological findings, pieces of glass, of pottery and so on.
They have found also tombs, but none of these fifty
thousand elements were found in the middle of the island.
So in the place in which I consider the real Atlantis,

(41:48):
with the circular rings of eighteen kilometers diameters, they found
all the archaeology findings outside these and in the island
near Solavatski Island. So this is, according to me, the
most important information that I had from archaeologist, because it's

(42:11):
the proof that ancient people were not able to not
allowed to enter in the island, exactly as Plato said.
Plato said that Posidon created the island and make these
circular rings in order to avoid everybody to enter in
the Holy island. So this has been proved by archaeologists undirectly.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Let's say, okay, interesting, you describe what you say is
the island of the king, and you have a chapter
where you detail where the king of Atlantis lived in
an acropolis with defensive walls, towers and doors. Where's that located.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Yes, this is locate not far, very very close to
the most important and giant island of eighteen kilometers in diameter,
and it is very near and it is exactly the
place in which the major monastery was built by monks.

(43:18):
Or let's say that history Russian history says that the
monks built this giant monastery with six towers and the
walls and the giant walls. Inside in the monastery there

(43:40):
are many churches. There are four different churches, and this
is impressive because the churches as one connected to the
other with enormous spaces. Inside the monastery there is a
single room of five hundred square meters with a single

(44:05):
column in the middle which for the roof. So let's
imagine a few monks during the sixteenth century after Christ
maybe there were twenty to thirty that built a room
of five one hundred square kilometers. It is absolutely incredible

(44:27):
these situation and so according to my reconstruction, this was
the place in which the ten kings of our plant
is has a plateau sails and wrote meet each other
every seven years, and they were able to reinforce their empire.

(44:52):
And so it is a completely different story. It is
not the history that up to now is the official
history of Russian archaeologists. But many things should be understood
and evaluated.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
According to me, what what skeletal remains have we discovered,
what artifacts have been discovered, if there's been some archaeological digs,
and the other question I would have.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Is there a museum in that area? Talk about what
they've discovered, because if you believe it's Plato Plato's fabulous Atlantis,
the artifacts are going to be pretty sophisticated.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Oh, let's say, as what I've seen are not sophisticated
archaeological finds. The Russian archaeologists are find, for example, boats
made of skin, and they have reconstructed the boat and

(46:03):
have confirmed the fact that the populations of three thousand
years ago were able to leave the White Sea shores
and reach the island very simply during one day. So
this is very important because it is a proved that
the island was inhabited by populations that were arriving from

(46:26):
the shores. These populations were just arriving during the summer,
so the good weather, not during the winter. And so
this is another important fact because as I told you,
in the middle of the island, so in this enormous

(46:47):
eighteen kilometers diameters circular island, they did not find anything.
But only on the island near the Solovski Island they
have found many potteries and they also recently they have
found a very interesting archaeological tool, which was a very

(47:16):
small doll, the grandmother doll. Let's say, this means that
this island was devoted to fertility, because somebody right there
and left this doll that was made somewhere else. I
have studied the findings of the in Sloveskia found in

(47:41):
Slovestia island, and I have compared them with many other
European cultures, trying to understand which were the people that
were in contact. And I have found every decease in Austria,
for example, at the end of the Danube. So I
decided I concluded that those people were able to pass

(48:09):
from one place to another very quickly by using boats
and by using the big rivers that are present in
the Russian territory and the European tarrety. From the Duana,
they were able to arrive in the Black Sea. From
the Black Sea, they were able to go to the
north using other big seas like the Niepre and and Volga,

(48:32):
and so they were able to arrive also to the
White Sea. So they were people able to transfer themselves
in very few times. Let's say they were not walking,
but they were using boats. And this is an important
evidence because the archaeological finders are exactly the same found

(48:56):
in the same period of time in Europe.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Okay, I want you to talk a little bit more
about the acropolis, because this is an important area that
is equipped with you describe towers and gates that work
with the sea. So how does that tell us a
little bit more detail about the acropolis.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Yes, so today the acropolis, so the major monastery, is
in connection with the whole rest of the island. But
according to me, since the island has been destroyed by
a giant tsunami, a lot of ground has been transferred

(49:42):
and so actually now the island, the little island is
not very simple to see, but we can reconstruct the
place in which the small island was. There are towers
that are enormous towers, more seventeen meters and larger more

(50:02):
than six at the basis. They are completely empty inside,
and they are exactly the same towers that we can
find in Sardinia, the Nuragi. So they have been built
exactly with the same architecture. And maybe this is the

(50:25):
proof that there was a link between Sardinia and between Atlantis.
But Plato says this because Plato, when talks about the
Empire of Atlantis, said that the empire was enormous and
was extended from Asia until Libya and Tyrania. So Tyrania

(50:48):
is the sea in front of Sardinia. So according to me,
Plato was right even when he was talking about the empire,
there was a link between those who lived in Asia
and those who were living in the middle of the Mediterranean.
Up to now. You can see that the water enters

(51:11):
in the major monastery, and there is a mill inside
the major monastery, and the Plato talks about the fact
that the kings of Tlenties were able to use baths
inside the acropolis, so water was very abundant and still
now you can find this water. Regarding the gates, it

(51:34):
is they are very original because it is the entrance
of the monastery. There are big gates made of of
stone that can just go down, shift down and close
completely the entrance. And it is a structure which is

(51:55):
very very original. It is a sort of mili right defense.
So once more, it sounds to me very strange that
some monks have made this building so sophisticated with this
defensive structure.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
We're going to pause for a break to allow our
sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return shortly with
my guest today, researcher, writer and investigator Marco Baloney, coming
to us from Italy. Will be right back. My guess

(53:18):
today is Marco Beloni. He is discussing his belief in
a true Atlantis in a location known to us as Russia,
and we're getting a sense of just what he's discovered.
You know, it's funny because when I think of what

(53:39):
Plato wrote about Atlantis, I think of a technologically advanced
culture with pyramids, with special types of armaments, with machines
of some kind, and what you describe in this part
of Russia seem very rudimentary. Is there anything that you

(54:03):
would say is highly technical, very advanced that is remaining.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Look, look, Plateau talks about the army of the Atlantics Empire,
and he talks about very simple arms. He doesn't talk
about giant machines or sophisticated machines. They were just normal

(54:30):
people and nothing is strange. What is strange is the
fact that they have done structures of towers and the
walls so enormous and so impressive that have been able
to survive for three thousand years. So, according to me,

(54:54):
the advantage of this population was the possibility and the
ability of built enormous giant structures for defensive reasons. So
in this in this way, they were absolutely the first
maybe advantage, and they had many advantages respect to other populations.

(55:18):
So this is the advantage that I can measure looking
at the acropolis. Now, Yeah, and you you blend the
defenses of different annulal rings of water and then walls
of ground and of rocks, then also again water, So

(55:39):
they were able to use natural elements in order to
defense their cities and also the king. So this is
very absolutely an advantage.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
The archipela is made up of little islands and land forms.
You have a chapter called the concentric Circles. Talk about
what you discovered which makes you think this is Atlantis
with what is left of these concentric circles that Plato describes.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Yes, and during my study, as I told you, I
have used the Naza data in order to reconstruct the island.
So we have emphasized the dimension, the horizontal dimension of

(56:37):
the data, and using this amplification of the territory, we
have been able to find in the north west part
of the island the possible existence of the annular rulings
of water, of which platotalques. Of course, it is only

(57:00):
a sort of undulation of the terrain. It is not
very evident because now the island has modestis hundred lakes.
It is full of big trees higher than thirty meters,
so it is full of marches. It's very difficult to

(57:20):
explore the island. So it is I have been able
to reach the highest point of the island in the
middle of that which is a very low hill of
eighty meters, from which it is possible to see the
whole island alone. But I spent ten hours of with

(57:40):
my legs and with a Russian guide in order to
reach the center of the island. So for sure there
was an annular structure, and for sure there was this
there were these concentric rings. And another important reconstruction that

(58:01):
I've done is that Plateau talks about a giant wall
that have been built all around the island at fifty
stadia of distance from the center of the island, which
is nine kilometers, And it is possible to see that

(58:21):
one part of the island which was on the opposite
side of the tsunami where the tsunami arrived, that part
is exactly at nine kilometers from the center of lines.
So there are many elements that convinced me that there
was a structure with annual rings in this island.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
Okay, how do we know, I mean, this tsunami you
keep talking about must have been a mile high or
something huge. How do we know it was a tsunami?
Is there evidence on the what is remaining of the
island of tsunami?

Speaker 2 (58:56):
Is no, There is no evidence from up to now
from archaeological point of view. But I have found a
geological map, and I found it in Romania. So I
try to contact all the scientists that are able to

(59:16):
study and visit the island, and Romanian geologists may send
me a map in which it's possible to see that
there is a difference of geological structures of the island,
which is very Let's say the ground on the side

(59:38):
of the tsunami is completely different from the ground on
the opposite side where the tsunami will like. So this
means that the tsunami erased the island. And there are
different stratifications that could be due to the tsunami. But

(59:59):
we have two uh convalidate this study. This my hypothesis.
This I need to take a geologist on the island
and study this possibility.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
It's interesting though, because you actually show in your book
satellite images of the island and you compare it with
early representations of Atlantis, and they looked pretty close. Yes,
it's pretty amazing, pretty amazing. I want you to describe something.

(01:00:30):
You call it what Plato didn't know. This is a
chapter eleven and you you you talk about an immense labyrinth. Yes,
where was the Where was the labyrinth?

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
So the Plato talks about a giant island made of
circular rings, which were rings of water and off ground
of eighteen kilometers. Then Plato talks about a giant canal
that was connecting the center of the island with the sea,

(01:01:09):
which was nine kilometers long. And when I went to
visit Solovetski Island for the first time, I was together
with my daughter Alich, who at the age of fourteen,
decided to come with me because she was afraid that
I was not able to come back from Russian so

(01:01:31):
she said, hey, I come with you because I want
to help you come. So we were together visiting the
island for the first time, and we arrived in a
very small island near Solovetzi, which is called the Zayatsky Island.
On this Zayahsky island, there is a concentration of labylinths

(01:01:56):
made of stones, so there are many circlear rings around
a center, and they are very numerous, more than thirty labyrinths.
Nobody understand why, because there are no labyrinths on solvate
Ski Island, which is a giant island of more than

(01:02:17):
two hundred kilometers, and there are thirty labyrinthes in this
very small island, which is less than ten kilometers now,
so when I saw these labyrinthes, I was fascinated. But
the biggest one. The two that are the biggest and
also considered the oldest one because they entrance. The entrance

(01:02:41):
of the libyrinth is exactly oriented as the canal Dolgaya Canal,
which is the canal which makes a connection between the
sea and the center of the Solovetski Island. And so
in the center of the labyrinth is a lot of

(01:03:02):
there are a lot of tones stones representing a mountain
in the middle, and so according to my interpretation, this
was the representation of the island Atlantis when after its destruction.
What I think is that people were arriving on the

(01:03:25):
island only during the good season, and when they arrived
the season after the destruction, they found the island completely destroyed,
and so they just represented the island as it was before.
So they built these giant libraries in order to let

(01:03:46):
us know how Atlantic Island was, and so this is
what the plateau did not know. So the connection between
the single rings annual rings of land and water create
a labyrinth, a structure which was very difficult to reach

(01:04:12):
the center of the island. So it was much more
difficult than single circular rings. It was a la labyrinth
with clockwise and counterclockwise movements. But the labrary I tried
to represent and fit the the image of Slovetski Island

(01:04:35):
with my reconstruction, and it fits very well. So there
is a representation that seems to really a good representation.
And another important thing is that in the middle of
those labyries, Russian archaeologists found arrows that were all of

(01:04:58):
three thousand years old, so they I think that these
hours have been used during the first millennium before Christ,
which is not far from the date that I consider,
which is the date of the destruction of Atlantis. So

(01:05:18):
I think that also this element is very interesting and
important and give support to my hypothesis.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
The books called the Atlantis Labyrinth. My guest today has
been Marco Boloni. He is going to be featured at
the first International Congress of Forbidden History. It's going to
be October eighteenth and nineteenth in Italy. For all the
details and to learn more about this presentation that Marco

(01:05:45):
will be presenting, go to Eighth continentgroup dot com and
you'll see the details as well as the presentation. As
we conclude, Marco, has there been any writing that's been found,
any kind of books or manuscripts, or courtsies or anything.

(01:06:06):
I guess it's a sense of writing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Yes, up to now we don't have this evidence. But
all the Russian archaeologists send all their findings to Saint
Peter books, and these are inside an enormous quantity of
boxes in the underground of the museums, and so nobody

(01:06:30):
knows what there is inside the box because they don't
have time or money to study these findings. So we
should maybe find some archaeologists and some interested in researchers
and start to collaborate with Russians and try to understand

(01:06:51):
what really happened on this island.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
Have you spoken to any Russian archaeologists who feel similar
to what you feel, that this is perhaps the fabled Lattice.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
No, but I presented my hypothesis to an archaeologist and
he is convinced that some parts of the island are artifacts,
artificial parts. So there are huge constructions that seem not

(01:07:31):
to be natural but built by humans, which is the problem.
The problem is that the Russian history says that monks
built everything in that place of the world, So even
if we think that somebody have done something else, it

(01:07:53):
will be very difficult to prove it. And so we
need a lot of courage in order to go on
and find the real event of the situation and who
built what. But I am sure that somebody is interested
in my works and we would like to be more

(01:08:15):
free to go on and continue our researches.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
So if you were to go to that part of
the world today, would you have free access as an
Italian citizen or would you have to have special visa?

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
No, I will be free, as I think as any
kind of Italian. Of course, I could not ask any
kind of research archaeological research. I can only visit the
place and make some photos and interview people, but I
cannot study the situation. So what the big effort would

(01:08:53):
be to organize an international research with different special and
start to work with Russians. So this would be my dream.
Let's say.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Yeah, fantastic Marco, thank you very much for presenting this material.
This book is amazing. The Atlantis Labyrinth. What day are
you speaking? Are you on the eighteenth or the nineteenth
of October? Is your president?

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Yes on the eighteen Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
Okay, fantastic, Well continued success on this book. For those
of you listening, The book's going to be out in
the middle of October and English, and Marco has assured
me it will be available on Amazon. Is that correct? Yes, yes, correct, fantastic.
Thank you Marco, appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Thank you to your cliff and see you soon. Thank you,
Bye bye.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
I'm going to place a number of photographs from the
book on the Facebook page because the book is not
out until the fall. The Italian version is out. I
have the copy of the Italian version, but some of
the photographs are very intriguing. You know, you got to
wonder if Atlantis was big enough as a continent and

(01:10:15):
actually broke up. So many theorists believe that the Antarctica,
which is a huge island continent, is the remains of Atlantis.
Charles Hapgood, I think Graham Hancock, I think John Anthony West.
But what Marco has presented is another version of it.

(01:10:41):
I mean, what he lays out is compelling. And one
of my big criterias regarding like this Northern African settlement
or geographic placement is that there's no ruins in this situation.
Marco has evidence of ruins. He shows foundations, he shows

(01:11:06):
partial towers, there's a lot of things. A question, you know.
I think he does a good job preparing us for
his hypothesis with illustrations with photos, but I don't know,
it's hard to say. It's a fun consideration. Good to
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(01:13:45):
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