May 13, 2025 • 50 mins
We’ve been MIA and just a touch busy, here’s a life and show update from your Queen shitters!
It’s a new era of the pod, and we can’t wait to bring you fun and fresh content, so we’re going to run you through all the changes coming to your ears.
THEN, Kel and Kee get into the good stuff; everything you’ve missed and simply must know. From riveting complaints about cat urine, a grandma with more lives than said cat, realising you can’t afford to buy a house you didn’t even want, Kee’s break-up from the snoo, Kel’s future in children’s entertainment, the devastation of dementia and about 50 additional topics they head on strange tangents about.
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Kelly McCarren @kelly_mccarren
Kee Reece Searles @keereece
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Madeline Joannou - Mylk Media
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We acknowledged the traditional custodians of the land we're recording
on today.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hello, Hello, Welcome back, shitters. Oh gosh, it's good to
be back. It is a brand spanking new season and
error of your all time favorite podcast, Eat, Sleep, Shit, Repeat,
your unhinged podcast about the madness that is motherhood and
everything in between. I'm Kelly mccaren.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
We are back baby, not officially yet in studio. I'm
Kiries and I'm currently have a baby not attached to
me right now, but any moment now she is going
to wake and attached to my very engorged, mastitis filled
right breast.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Oh poor thing.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I'm on the front line here for the shitters, but
we're back in front of the mic, and I am
so excited to be using my brain in a different way.
I can't tell you.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Oh well, if you are new here, welcome And if
you missed us, welcome back. We really missed the show too,
and the messages I've been receiving we've been off really
reminded me just how important it is and the impact
that it's having all over the world. Now. Really, there's
been a couple that I've sent through to key from
like random locations that she's like, Oh, whoa, We've got
(01:13):
shit is everywhere.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I know, Isn't it cool? That's what's so fun about podcasting,
Like you never know who is listening. Speaking of though,
can we actually take this opportunity, just at the start
of a brand new season, brand new show, to kindly
request that you go and leave us a rating and review.
We want to make the pod bigger and better than ever,
and we really need the Shit has helped to do so.
So it's super easy. You just find us wherever you
(01:35):
listen to your podcast, So right now, wherever you're listening,
scroll down, make sure you're subscribed, and then leave us
a little rating and review.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So, with this new season and era of the pod,
I love the word error. I know that it's era,
but I like saying error just error more impactful. We
are going to try to do things a little bit differently,
and of course you are welcome to share your thoughts
and feedback.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yes, So after a few months of this new format,
we're going to be putting out the feelers to see
what you're thinking and see what the general consensus is.
Because if the majority of our shitter is aren't vibing
the new format. Then we're going to switch it up again.
We just want the show to grow and evolve as
we are growing and evolving too.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
So today's episode is going to be a standalone catch
up episode in probably some pretty curty glory because it
is us, we will update you on exactly what the
fuck has been going on.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
And then from next week our monthly rotation of episodes
will start and it's going to revert back to the
start every four weeks. So if that's confusing, don't worry.
We're going to run you through it.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So the first episode of every rotation will be a
good old fashioned rant, probably one of my favorite things
to do. This episode will kick off with both of
us doing our weekly peek and pit.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Then can I just be a bitch for a sec?
This was actually inspired by one of my favorite podcasts
that I listened to called Las Culturistas. Shout out to them.
Obviously they're not going to listen, but we have to
give credit where credit's due, and we're going to link
them in the show notes so you can start listening
to them because you will love So the rant will
go for like mac sixty seconds and it's timed and
(03:11):
it's about something that we are annoyed with, about motherhood,
about something that's happening with our little ones and.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Our life, really like something's just really grading on us.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Just relatable stuff that we are talking about, and then
we're going to debate or have a little bit of
a discussion about the topic in question. We will of
course take turns, but I'm going to be kicking off
things next week because it's only fair that I get
to rant about the fresh hell that is going from
one to two.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, that sort of trumps like what's going on in
my life, which is just my cat who insists on
urinating where she shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Well, that's not good.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
To fix, really really annoying. I need help. Then the
next episode will be I just don't know if I care.
So every month, once again we'll bring article, a study,
a report, or you know, TikTok video that's really conversation
provoking and thought provoking and something that people really seem
to care about but we just don't know if we do,
(04:08):
so are we interested or does it boor us to sleep?
This will also just be a really good deep dive
for shitters who can't be ass looking into things and
want them explain to them in like a really easy
to digest way.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah, because I'm always like, let's talk about the study
and Cal's like that's boring, and I'm like, but someone
might care. So then also originated from.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
The idea is that we've got to make it interesting
exactly exactly at the end, we just go nas still
don't care.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yeah, no, I don't care, but thanks for your work done.
So the third episode will be shitter Led. We're going
to have a guest joining us and they'll be kicking
off a convo with their sixty second bitch about something
before we have a good old fashioned yap and yeah
with them about it. So no experts unless they're super
fun and interesting. We're just going to be getting on
your regular Joe blows, friends of ours, people we know
(04:55):
that are going through the same things. Hit is, Yeah,
shit is, shit is.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Finally, every month our rotation will finish with an episode
dedicated to drunk parenting advice with us, except we're not
always going to be drunk because sometimes we might be
recording at nine am on a Tuesday and no judgment.
But yeah, you know we're not on holidays. No, you
loved the Unhinged solo app I did, so we're going
to make it into a regular thing. This is the
(05:20):
one episode per month that we won't have a peek
and pit. We're just going to drive straight into your conundrums.
Questions please if you will, and you can submit your
questions via the link on our install It'll just live
in the bio and it will always be completely anonymous. Yep, exactly.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
So that's the plan and we're really excited about it.
But as promised, we kind of need to catch up.
There's a bit that's been on, hasn't it.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
We have so much to catch up on. Okay, key,
what the hell is going on in your life?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Oh god? Well, I'll start off with the biggest thing,
because as if having a newborn whilst also having a
toddler isn't enough, We are trying to buy a house.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yay, And are you feeling really defeated? Yes or no?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yeah, definitely. We are in our fifth month of looking
for a house. We have been every single Saturday, bar
the weekend of Rou's birthday to open homes, and I've
been going during the week and we have come really
close twice. The first time, I don't think it was
our house the second time was our house and someone
stole it from us, so that's pretty hard to get over.
(06:30):
But my God, like it really opens your eyes up
to the process. Like everyone says, it's one of the
most stressful things you'll do in your life is buying
a house and having a baby, which we've decided to
do both at the same time, which is.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Very stupid, which we know.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
But literally my apartment is I hate it. And I
don't know about UKL but like when you're living somewhere.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
That you just hate, you want out.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I want out, And because it's also where I work,
I just don't have a sanctuary. And because I'm here
all the time with the baby and working, it's just
a little much. So I think it's the stakes are
a bit higher. I've also been through a complete identity
crisis because spoiler alert, we cannot afford to live on
the beaches in Sydney. It's just not attainable for us,
so we are going suburban outrageous, So it's also been
(07:15):
a bit of an identity crisis. But I'm feeling really
good about the area.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Key is so funny with something she messaged me one day,
She goes, do you know much about this suburb, and
I was like, oh, yeah, I've got a bunch of
friends that lived there. I used to live like two
suburbs from there. It was really great bub bluh. And
she goes, oh, I just don't know. Maybe I'll get
in touch with that person and talk to them about oposed.
(07:39):
Like I've never met someone that's just like, oh.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
No, it's really okay. But this is my reasoning, right,
It's like I grew up in britzee shout out to Brisbane,
we love you. Have lived in Sydney for ten years,
have only lived in the same suburb for ten years.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
So whereas I've always chopped changed suburbs exactly, I've lived
in the most rogue Sydney suburbs, which I think is
the right way to do.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
With anyone that's moving to Sydney who I chat to,
I'm always like, biggest piece of advice. I really regret
not moving around when I didn't have like ties like now,
when the thing that kind of decides the area that
we want to live in is like, is there a
sense of community.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Are the schools great? Like?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Where are we zoned? Like all of those really sensible questions.
Whereas when you're younger and a bit more agile, you
can live where it's really cool and fun and edgy.
Like right now where I live, it's like, on a
Saturday night going out with a baby and a toddler,
I'm walking into a freaking night club on the street.
It's just so not good. So we had a big weekend.
We were looking at houses in the suburb that we
(08:40):
want to move to, and we had our friend's birthday
party who they live out there as well, and we
would just honestly, it's the best day I've had in
so long. Even though I had mass status and was
like in paying serious pain the whole time, it was
so nice being in our suburb that we're hoping to
move to. And then we came back to our house
and we were just like fucking the suburb.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
So anyway, the news is were buying a house but
haven't found one yet.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah. And I think I've worked with different people that
have been like on the auction circuit before and it
just seems awful, like weekend after weekend, Yeah, which is
why I stopped before I even really started looking like
we were looking, but we didn't actually, like ever go
(09:27):
bid on something or go speak to a bank. And
I still sometimes have a peek at real estate dot
com just to see what's.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
How addictive is it once you get into the hang
of it.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Oh, with everything that's been going on with my nanny,
I just was feeling like extra sentimental about keeping her house,
and yeah, I get that I don't really need any more,
like we could really use it, but like that's we
don't need it. And yeah, so that's sort of been
put on hiatus for a while. But I do at
(09:57):
some point need to speak to someone about money because
I've got no idea what to do.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, financial advisor, I reckon that's a good good step
for that. I luckily have Charlie, who is in finance,
really good with money. He knows what to do. But
if we were not together, I would be getting definitely
a financial advisor. You just want to make sure that
you're making the right choices with your money, and they
don't teach you that stuff at school, so it's like
you have to find someone who is going to educate
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you and give you tips and tricks on what to
actually deal with it to make your money grow.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
But I'm not very good at spending money. On things
that bore me, which is why I still don't have
a proper accountant. I've given you my accountant's name, and
I'm just so like, I hate spending money on things
that are boring, Like I'll spend the most outrageous money
on things that are fun and like pretty, but on
(10:47):
anything like that that's going to benefit me more. Nah,
hate it, hate it?
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Well, yeah, I guess because it's not a house is
tangible because you'll be living in it. But I get
what you mean. It is snoozy. It's like when you're
You're Red Joe, You're like, oh, this is annoying, but
I've got to do it or else I can't drive
my car.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yeah, so I need to update everyone on my beautiful
nanny because.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I'm still like people of wanting to know what's going on. Dying.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
It's not funny, but Gallow's humor it is like a
little bit funny. So, like six weeks ago, the doctor said, yeah,
she's dying. There was the palliative like little sign on
the door at the aged care thing. Everyone was sitting
with her around the clock, like she did not have
(11:32):
long Yeah. Sometimes you know when you just do things
and then you look back on it and you're like, oh,
for goodness sake. So at one point I posted this
like sad little video on Instagram going, well, it's Nanny's
time and it's time for her to go. And now
it's like six weeks later, well she's still here, duh
with no, she's not going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Yeah, but cal those were real emotions in that moment,
Like I was talking to you pretty much every day.
She's a strong woman actually, and she's turned it around.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
This is why it's just so funny because her entire life,
so she's got four boys. When they were all really little,
she was in quite a bad accident and that's why
she's got like this thing on her head. So she
was in such a bad car accident for my first birthday.
That was her first ever heart attack where she needed
a triple bypass. What she since had a further two
(12:24):
oh my god, like severe heart attacks with triple bypasses.
She has emphysema. She had a fall so bad in
Perth that she was in a hospital for weeks in
her entire body like she was black and blue. She
was in such a bad car accident that the other
person in the car ended up dying. This was such
a bad car accident. She's been in car accidents with
(12:45):
me before. I had to save her from drowning when
I couldn't even swim that well myself in the pool
that my sister now owns. She got hit by a
boss Kelly, I'm not joking. She got this as wild
how it was in the paper local elderly woman hit
by bus. She was fine. There is just so many things.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
She is so resilient, resilient, but and lucky and lucky.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
She's so lucky. But it is also really sad and
awful because there's no way if she was of sound
to mind that she would want to be here.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah I know, I mean yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
So she's back up and at it, but not walking.
But she's in a chair every day. Like they use
this little thing. It's quite funny. It's like you know
those things that they used to get sea creatures out
of the ocean, like a little hammock almost, Yeah, that's
how they get her in and out of bed.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's so funny.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
So I'm like, someone proll shamoo back in the ocean,
and the nurses don't really get my humor. Anyway. So
she's in the chair like she's got a catheter in
permanently and like there's just no dignity left and there's
no Yeah, she's just such a proud lady. And the dementia,
you know, she doesn't know who I am ninety eight
(14:08):
percent of the time, and I've got a good sense
of human most of the time. Like, you know, she'll
say to me, I've never seen you before and you're
in my life, and I'm like, well, that's unfortunately not true.
And you know, I'm so glad that I bother coming
every day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's one of those
things where she's not eating and drinking that much, and
(14:29):
I know that she's tiny and not doing that much,
but I don't see how you can sort of go
on for too long eating and drinking such little amounts.
But yeah, it's just like this long, awful process. But
my god, that lady is stubborn and resilient, and you know,
she's my nanny through and through.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah, it's often I think, especially with dementia. I've experienced
at it within our family, and it's often harder for
the people that are left caring for them. I just
don't feel like there's enough acknowledgment of that, Like it's
really hard to still show up for someone every day,
which you would do it in any circumstance, of course,
(15:12):
but when they don't remember who you are, it's really
difficult sometimes just to not not let it affect you deeply.
So to have a sense of humor about it, I
think is the best way.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
It's the only way. Key You've got to laugh, where
you cry our life motto. Because it's also sometimes and
that people don't really talk about. They can get quite cranky.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, because.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
They're very frustrated as well.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
They called it at my Nana's thing, they called it
the like when it's coming sundowners sundown. Is that's right, Yeah,
you wouldn't want to come at that time because it's
awful basically.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yeah, yeah, but I sort of have to go at
that time. Well not at the moment actually, because she's
eating a lot more and better. But there was a
period like a couple of weeks where I went every
single night for dinner to make sure that she ate
some dinner. Yeah, because like even if I could just
get her dessert into her, I was like, that's better
than nothing. But like, yeah, she was shouting at me
(16:08):
and like get away. I don't want it, and I'm like, Nanny, please,
you have to eat something like for your own health.
But yeah, anyway, and then I was thinking I was
having like a big sob about it last night because
I was thinking, Oh my god, imagine if I was
her age and I didn't recognize Lenny, Like, it's dementia
(16:29):
is fucked. It is the Yeah, it's really It's so cruel.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
It's really cruel.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Because at the end all we have our people and
our memories of our people. If you don't have that,
you don't have anything.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
It's really heartbreaking. I remember my grandad got released from
hospitals is when he was dying and basically there was
nothing else they could do for him, so he was
released into palliat of care. And my nana's dementia because
of obviously he had this heart attack and that his
end of life was approaching, it sped up her dementia,
which often does when traumatic events happen. And I just
remember standing outside of the room when we had brought
(17:08):
them back together after he had been in hospital and
she had moved into the home, and I remember him
just like pleading with her to remember who he was,
like I'm your husband, like you're my wife, like we
love each other. That was the hardest thing I have
ever heard, Like it was just heartbreaking, heartbreaking, and he
had been living with her and her dementia. They had
(17:31):
hidden it from us for years. We all had suspicions,
but it never was told to us, and obviously when
everything happened, it all kind of came out. It is
the cruelest of cruel thing that can happen to you
when you live a long life and you get to
the age where you just want to enjoy life, and
then that's what happens.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
It's just awful.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
So I really think of you guys all the time
a lot, and I think, even though she doesn't remember you,
you being there with her is just so beautiful.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
And she does sometimes yeah, yeah, Like there's usually because
I ask her every day and I never like try
to force it or anything, but every day I go,
do you know who I am? And she most of
the time is like she just laughs and she goes no,
or most of the time though she's still sort of
happy to see me. But then every now' they're familiar.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I think they like they know you're familiar, so they
know that you're safe, safe, and they.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Don't really know who you are.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
It did break my heart though one day when I
went to grab her hand and she sort of flinched,
and then I realized, like, oh my god, she doesn't know,
like I'm just a weird stranger touching her. Yeah. Yeah,
fucked me like that was awful. But the other day
she looks at me when I asked that question, she goes,
you're my granddaughter, like it was just so, and it's
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like whenever those moments happen, she looks at me like
I'm crazy, Like as if I wouldn't know who you are. Yeah, yeah, yeah, hello,
Oh so I have to tell you something funny that
I do when I'm stressed. Yeah, And because I'm currently
recording this in lef his room because there's so much space.
When I'm stressed, I get rid of things.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yep.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
So I sold. There was like a couple of days
where people were just turning up because I was just
selling things on Facebook marketplace, but I didn't have anything
to replace it with. So now I'm just living in
some pretty empty spaces with just piles of crap everywhere.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah, I get that. You just want like quick things
to make you feel good. So you're like, I'm going
to sell this. I'm going to sell this, and you're
like oh.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
And then I was doing some donations and oh my goodness,
I have like a bit of a rant at some
point to go on about Salvos and Vinnie's and the donations.
But I was giving away some really good stuff and
my sister was like looking through one of the bags
and she goes, why are you getting rid of these?
You love these. I just.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Sit with you while you're getting rid of the things.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah, And I probably needed someone here when I was
selling everything on Facebook marketplace. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
You were showing me Lenny's big boy bend. You're like, yeah,
just don't look at the piles. There's nothing to put
his things in. And I was just like, all right,
I'm not gonna ask. I'm just gonna push through.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Cute bed that was a few weeks ago. We're still here,
and the bed also doesn't have anything on it because
the cat keeps pissing on it. Honestly, she's doing my
head in. Every time I make the bed, she pisses
on it. She also pisses on Luke's clothes, like piles
of clothes. But that's it. It's so annoying.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
It must be like a becuse.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Men.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Maybe it's some hormone that they release.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Well, I've got to get a dsex soon, so hopefully
that will help.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Fuck, that's annoying. No, I can't deal with pee.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
It just it's disgusting. He I would rather pooh.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, Pooh's a lot easier to deal with. We it
just seeps into stuff and it seeps.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
And cat wi smells disgusting.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Yeah, it's not great.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
It's like there dehydrated elderly men. That's how bad he is.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Okay, I didn't need that. I could have done about that,
thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Anyway. I know that we're going to get into the
going from one to two more in your round next week,
but talk to us a little about like how you're
going with wrangling and newborn managing businesses, dealing with the
shit show that is life.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
It is not for the fainthearted. I think it is.
Really it's really testing me. I think I have to say, like,
we have got a pretty easy baby, and I think
that had she not been easy I would have lost
my mind, because I already did a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Over I wouldn't say that she's an easy baby. From
what I've heard, she doesn't sleep independently most of the time.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Well no, that was in her first weeks of being
a baby, but now she.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Wouldn't sleep in a cot or like at nighttime.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
She wouldn't sleep in a cot at nighttime. But this
is all in like I feel like we're now she's
gonna be thirteen weeks this week, still just over three months,
so she's still a baby, not a newborn anymore. But
I think in the first eight weeks it was rough
because I was really trying to breastfeed and get everything
happening with that. I was trying to learn who she was,
and she was just a very clingy baby.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Very different to Rue, very different to Rue.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Rue was like really happy to be swaddled really tightly
and sat down and she would just kind of go
with the flow. But very quickly I learned that Suki
just wanted to be on me. So it was a
lot in the first eight weeks, I would say, is
when it was extremely hard, because I think what happens
is like you forget the newborn stage. So I had
(22:31):
like blacked out or something that first bit, but everyone
kept I.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Think everyone does. And it was quite funny though when
people would be like, oh, does Key having a newborn
make you clucky? It all? But like talking to you
every day, I was like, God, no.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
No, we were in the trenches. Like I can't even
imagine had she not been a good feeder, had something
else been wrong, because it was tough and she was
a very textbook baby. Like everything I was saying to
my midwife, which can I just it is obviously a
massive investment and something that was such a privilege for
me to be able to do. But having that midwife
(23:06):
come every second day and every four days and every
week for like six weeks postpartum was the best thing
because I was going to her, is this normal? Is
this normal? She's like, I don't know what to tell
your key, Like she's gaining weight, she's really happy, she's
looking good. She's just a baby.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
She's just a baby. And that was just so cute
and smiley.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
She's so cute and smiling. She's just the most delicious thing.
But that was the thing that I think was the
most difference this time. It's like, obviously, yes, you've done
it before, but it really doesn't mean anything because there's
completely different personalities, right, So you don't get freaked out
by like if they don't pooh for a few days,
because they're like, okay, that's normal. So you're not as
highly strung, but you're still really tired because you've got
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another baby as well to look after another toddler.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
But I wake having still.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
And they wake up still, and they get in the
bed and the dogs in the bed, and it's like,
thank god, you've got a king bed, because fucking I'd
be sleeping on the floor if not. But I think
what was so good is just reassuring that she's a baby,
like this is all normal stuff, Like don't worry, there's
nothing more that you can do. So having someone to
remind me was like, yep, I've just got to lean
into it. So I just leant into it. For the
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first three months of her life, it was like she
only sleeps on me. That's fine, that's it. I just
have to kind of get used to it. And also
like trying to work, it was like I just have
to go with the flow, Like if I'm recording a
podcast and she's talking or yupping or crying or whatever.
To not let it stress me out.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Yeah, I mean fair enough. If she's crying, then you
know you sort of have to press pause. But yeah,
she's having a gurg or having a suck like, it's fine.
And so I think it has been really hard.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Like, don't get me wrong, there are days when I
have called Charlie to be like, you've got to come
home now. But it's more so the sleep deprivation and
then having to deal with a toddler who is just
turned three. It's just a bit of a recipe for
a disaster. And I think obviously which you can relate
to Kella's not having I do have my sister in
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law here who does help and is amazing, but yeah,
but she's got two young kids herself exactly, and she
works full time. So it's like it's not having a
grandma around to come. That's the thing that's missing, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
That. That and not having Charlie's mum this time around
to call the way you did with U exactly, which
I would have been heartbreaking as well, and something both
to navigate over the past couple of months.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
It's just an added layer of because you're so happy
because you've got this new baby, and they're just delicious
and delightful. But there's someone that's missing out on and
that has been there previously, and you know how excited
they were to meet your baby and just to you know,
take them off your hands when you're in the depths
of being like, what the hell am I doing? But
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it's been good. Like as we've come out of the
three months, I feel like once you get past that
twelve weeks, it's still hard, of course, but I really
didn't think so this time when it was leading up
to the twelve weeks. I'm not gonna get to twelve
weeks and it's all going to feel easier.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
But somehow it does.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Like you just I think it's just a perfect amount
of time for you to understand the rhythm of your baby.
And obviously things change, but you know, I know that
when she wakes up in the morning, I'm gonna feed
her and she's going to do a big pooh straight away.
I know that she's gonna probably want to sleep for
forty five minutes after I drop real daycare. Like, you
start to notice the consistencies and the patterns, and you're
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like all right, and then that gives you a bit
of confidence to plan your day or I don't know,
it's just what they say about getting to that twelve
weeks that you know through the fourth trimester is really true.
It kind of gives you a bit of breathing room
to be able to get to the next bit. Although
the adrenaline does run out, so I'm falling asleep during
every night feed and waking up being like, shit, I've
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just fallen asleep, Like I've definitely the adrenaline's definitely worn off,
but caught a bit of a stride. Do you get
to nap during the day, No, because I've scot shit
to do. Like it's not like when you've got one
baby and you're like, I.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Mean I never napped, obviously, I never napped even with
one little baby. Bit yeah I wish that I had.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yeah, And I was doing that in the early early weeks.
But now I'll get I'll have a shit night and
I'll be like, I've got to take a nap today,
and the day just gets away from me. It's like, well, no,
there's stuff to do. I've got to reset the house.
A house is a mess like toddlers are so messy.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
They are so messy, they get their every single toe out,
Like God, I'm obviously painting this with a very positive brush. Like.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
My most recent breakdown was in the middle of Sheridan.
I was buying Rue a big girl bed for her birthday.
I thought this would be so nice. It was a Friday,
I had the baby, I had her. I'm going to
take her out and we're going to get big girl
sheets for your bed. I said, you can pick them out. Obviously,
I was only going to give her the ones I liked,
and she could pick from those. Yes, And we went
to two shops and then I was like, why am
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I giving her like the options of shops? Like I
kind of fucked up. I know that I did. Anyway,
we get to Sheridan and I'm like, I'm just gonna
get everything here. It's all forty percent off, it's all
good quality, fine done. And she just ran circles around me.
It was so bad, and I was so exhausted that
I was weeping in the middle of Sheridan and.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
She screaming or just going crazy, just.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Going crazy, running around, laughing, pulling things out of boxes.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
They're like, oh, but not listening. To you when you
were like, stop.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
It, yeah, not listening to me. Like the thing with
Rue is like she isn't a hitter, that isn't anything
I have to worry about with her, right, but she
does not listen to me. So I will say her
name twenty times in a row and she will not
even look at me. And I cannot tell you how
frustrating favory when you've spent a whole morning. So up
until that point, I had said her name a million times,
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like just to get her to do basic stuff. And
for me, I get really upset when things aren't fair.
And that's something that I find really and hard about
raising a toddler.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
It's like because they don't have that.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
They don't give a shit. And I'm like, it's like,
fus fair, yeah, Like I've done everything for you. All
I'm asking is for you to not take your arms
out of your seat, bet in the car because I'm trouble,
And then I can't duck drive the car, can I
Because I'm gonna lose all my points, not to mention
the bloody money that happens that you have to pay.
But I had just reached my limit. It was like
she does not listen to me. I'm out numbered, I've
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got this baby on me, my boobs are aching, and
I'm just trying to do fucking nice thing for my
toddler and she does not give a shit. So that
was my most recent breakdown, and that was off the
back of Suki just deciding for three days that she
was not going to sleep like we had been sleeping.
One thing will happen with the baby, the toddler will
act up and all compounds. You've had no sleep and
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it's a bit of a disaster. But the toddler calms down,
you get a solid couple of days sleep or not
even think I got one good night's sleep, like Suki
just went back to sleeping pretty well, like only one
wake up a night. I couldn't put her down during
those three days basically overnight, so it was like awful,
But I just got one good night of sleep where
I could put her in her cot and maybe work
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up once or twice.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
One or two feeds and then goes back to sleep.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yeah, it's one to three times I'm waking up overnight
at the moment, so that's like standard. I can deal
with normal, but then should go through something developmentally, and
it was like I could not put her down. I'd
put her down, turn the lamp off, She'd start crying,
and I was just like, how am I going to sleep?
I cannot sleep sitting up anymore.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
My neck is fucked. She still hate the snoop. Yeah,
we sold it.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
We put it on and she screamed. She screamed, and
I was just like, all right, we don't have enough
space in the apartment, sell it, get rid of it.
We got the side sleep all to toe and she
liked it because she's so clingy, she has to be
right next to me. I literally will walk into a
room she's crying, Charlie's holding her. I'll walk into a room.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
And she'll go, ah, I can see her, I can,
I can.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
I can smell her, like if I'm in the room,
Charlie can hold her because she can smell me. But
if I'm not there, it's just she's getting better, she's
getting better. But it was really intense there for a moment.
But what I was saying was that things can switch
on a dime, but they can also switch back, and
you'll be surprised at how quickly you can recover with
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like a bit of sleep and a toddler that is
being nice to you for at least, you know, and
before they turn on you again.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
The not listening is driving me crazy as well.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
What are you doing because I bribe everything. You're not
going to daycare unless you do this, And she's like,
I want to go to daycare, and I'm like, well,
put your shoes on.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
I don't know what to see. I have a bribery box,
which I'm sure the experts you would have a lot
to say about, but they're not here, are they. I
am just at my wits end with the not listening
to me, and I just said it in the way
that I say it to him. I'm like, you need
to listen. Yeah, listen to me. Oh my god. It
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drives me insane. And Luke has started night shifts. Oh,
he hasn't started recently. It's been for like four or
five weeks now, Yeah, which means that four five nights
a week. It's just me. Okay, so I have to
finish work early to pick Lenny up, organized dinner, bath, teeth,
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getting him to bed. Every single thing is on me.
I'd say overall, I'm mostly fine, but there's some nights
last Tuesday, he started whining at me in the car
on the way home, and I literally just burst into
tears because the thought of another night of just us
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ahead of me with no help, and just also I
think I'd probably been by myself a lot during the day,
so I was just like probably a bit lonely as well,
and I was just so off it. Oh, it's so bleak.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
It's so bleak when you are down the barrel of
a dinner bathom bed routine. It's all on the toddler
as to whether or not this goes well exactly. And
they're psychotic, and so it's literally it's not even fifty
to fifty, I reckon, it's eighty twenty to whether there's
no final reason, Like no, you know, you you could think, oh, well,
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if they did nap during the day, then maybe they'll
be nicer at nighttime.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
No, sometimes he doesn't nap, and he's still an angel.
Sometimes he has a long as snap and he's an
absolute monster. Still. Yeah, And I really struggle not to
lose my temper so much. I lose my temper, like
I'm so not proud of it, but like, oh my goodness,
it's just so to try to not just with a
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awful little monster.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
It's honestly so hard. I'm the same like cal I
just get really like shouting. I'm like, don't do that.
All of the good parenting stuff goes out the and
I'm just there being like bribing it. And they lead
up to her birthday. I canceled her party maybe one
hundred and fifty times. You know, like you're not having
a party. That's it. That is not good parenting. But
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they are so young, that's all they understand.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
My thing is, though, is that, like I say this
to Luke all the time, I'm like, you need to
give him a punishment that makes sense, and you need
to follow through with it. However, I still don't actually
know if that works because the few times that I
have followed through with Lenny certainly didn't make his behavior
any better the next day.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Still no, and I think, like, I can't cancel a
party that was never going to happen, you know.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Like, oh no, I follow her sometimes I'm pretty strict.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Okay, I don't, but do you know what I have
done is that we do put her in her bedroom.
And I know that this is a lot of people
are like, you can't do this, but I think it's
different to time out where they're like sitting and looking
at an empty wall. I say, you've got to go
and sit in your room. You can play with whatever's
in there. But that's how I basically break the cycle
of you're not listening to me, you're having a tantrum.
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It's reached like a ten and there's nothing else for
me to do, and I myself need a break. So
she'll send her room she wants. She just scream in
there though, Yeah she screams, but then she'll pick up
a book, start reading, coloring in and then I'm like, okay,
have you come down now?
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Are you ready to come back out?
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yes? All right?
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Can we get Oh that sounds good.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Then it's working.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Well, it is working, but it feels wrong. Let me
tell you. It feels wrong being like you've got to
go to your bedroom. I think it's the smartest way
to do it, to put a little bit of space
between you both and just to stop the cycle of
whatever the fuck is going on in their head.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Honestly, I would do that, but Lenny literally will stand
at the door, throwing himself against it and screaming no.
He's an intense little kid.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
He's well, yeah, I mean the screams aren't great, are they.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
It's not good. How did you feel about returning three,
because remember I made an entire episode learning turning through it. Yeah,
I had so many feelings.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
I think I'm a little bit different to you, Like
I like celebrating those things. I think I like creating
those core memories. For me. It was really exciting this birthday,
just because it's the first one they're really going to remember.
Like I don't think they really remember two, but three.
She's like, I want a ballerina party. I want a
blue ey cake, And it was all she talked about
for months, Like the month leading up to her party.
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It was like every day she would have a tandrum
because she thought she was going to her party, but no,
she was going to date.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Because the concept of time is two minutes, four minutes.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah yeah, So next time, I'm probably not going to
tell her until a week out. But it was awesome.
I was so excited for her to have her birthday
and for her to like to teach her you know
that she's this many she's three, because we learned for weeks.
I was like, you're two and holding up two fingers
and then you're going to be three soon. So we
were like learning that, which was really fun, and then
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the actual party, Like I was really proud of how
the party turned.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Out so good. Yeah, Kelly came, I did. Sorry. I came,
and I dressed for the occasion.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
She came and she slaid. She came and she slaid
in a full too. Two get up.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Yeah. Can I just tell you, I never look up
somewhere before I go. Yeah, so I thought it was
like a sports hall or something that you'd hire it.
Oh okay, yeah, so I didn't think about like other patrons,
you'd actually been there and I rock up and it's
like a pub. Yeah. Yeah, it's like our little lots there.
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And I was dressed like a ballet teacher.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
It's true. But you were also like twinning with Charlie
who had a full leotard, Radley.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Who was best dressed. He was he was better than
Rue even with her teeny tiny little bottom and cowboy boots.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
This is the difference between went men and woman. I'm
like having a bit of a breakdown, being like, oh babe,
I'm just so overwhelmed with this party planning, Like do
you have any ideas basically like fishing to be like
you're not even helping kind of thing. And he's like, yeah, yeah,
like you know, I've got to sort out my tutu.
I'm going to do maybe like a dance with her.
And I was like, Babe, I'm talking about logistics, not
about your outfit. I don't fit any of my clothes, Like,
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I don't really want to hear about your tutu that
you're gonna buy to wear her party.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Anyway, it was the sleigh Dad move though it.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Was, And you know what, I honestly think I've got
the formula to having a kid's birthday party which isn't
overwhelming and stressful. And it all lies and spending a
bit of cash on a children the entertainer, because honestly,
it takes the sting out of it for sixty minutes
or however long you want the entertainer to stay based
on what your budget is, they are centering your party.
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Basically the kids will all flock to them, and it
means that you, as an adult hosting a party, are
able to kind of move around talk to people for
five minutes, say thanks for coming, catch up with them,
whereas if you don't have a cholsres an entertainer. They're
all kind of like running around in different directions and
it's really stressful and you feel like you can't relax.
But I felt like I could relax at that part.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
It's good. I looked like the children's entertainer, Well, she
can just tire me. I'll just do it for you
for free. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Well it's three hundred dollars for sixty minutes. It's not
a bad gig. When she was leaving, I was like, oh,
thank you so much for coming, Like, do you need
help getting to your car? And the whole time she
was talking to the kids, she had an American accent.
When she answered me, she was Australian again, and I
was like, Oh, where's your accent from? And she's like,
oh no, So we actually talk in an American accent
because the kids listen to us more. It makes them
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pay attention to what we're saying if we're talking in
an American accent. And I was like, what, Yeah, because
I watched television, maybe if I call ruin an American accent,
she'll actually listen to me.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Do you know what, I will try it to Lenny
brought back, Lenny, get ready for all out of time?
Come on, can we tell that she is? What Lenny did?
It'striddle's birthday body? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Oh god. I felt bad. But he had a good time.
Apparently told me he.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Had a good time, and I was like, are you sure? Yeah,
he from the moment he walked in, he sat and
glared and hid.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Do you understand now why I don't like children's birthday parties?
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Like, yeah, well, because you don't really get to have
time to enjoy the party either, like you're yeah, you're
sitting with him. He's just so shy and shy things.
And I get it because whenever I go someone with real,
I'm like, oh great, it's gonna be like half an
hour forty five minutes before she let's go with me
and then enjoys what we're doing. But that didn't finish
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fill in It.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Was no, that did not. The only time he was
happy was when we were on the football field kicking
a ball, just us. Yeah, like he actually And then
we went onto the play equipment, but no other children
from the birthday party with hair and he goes, mummy.
I say hello to like one random boy who then
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asked me why Lenny was wearing a dress.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Oh yeah, because it was a ballerina party, so all
of the kids were wearing two does.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
And that's so cu really cute. Well, even if it
wasn't a ballerina party, he can wear whatever the fuck
he wants exactly. And the thing that breaks my heart
is that he was so excited, like he just gets
so overwhelmed, and you know, but he kept being like, oh,
where Strudle And I'm like, oh, Darling, she's busy actually
having fun. She doesn't want to come and sit in
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a corner with you, like I.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Know, but that's just, you know what, He's better in
a one on one scenario, and that's okay.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Like like if he's really comfortable and not too many adults.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Yeah, there were a lot of Look, there was I
don't know how, but I somehow, with a newborn, ended
up planning a party for sixty people, twenty kids and
forty adults. I was like, very chill about the party,
and then I realized how many people coming and I
was like, fuck, but it was fine.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
It was at a pub, so it was fine. Like
it was fine.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
And again, the children's entertaining was great. Outsourcing your cake.
Lucy and her boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Job they al it. I mean, sorry, Lucy, but you
didn't really do anything John John, Oh it was so good.
Was it gluten free? Did you get to eat any Yeah?
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Yeah, it was gluten free dairy free.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
You're joking. It was that good and gluten and dairy free. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
She makes it every year the same. It's just packet
mix actually that they get this awesome dairy gluten and
dairy free one.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
It was so yummy. Lenny did enjoy his piece of cake.
And he really liked the goodie bag. Oh yes, the
slimy rag.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
I slayed the goodie bags. Can I just say, I've
been going to a few parties and like the goodie bags.
All the parents are like, can we not do goody
bags anymore? Because they're just full of lollies, because that's
what they're meant to be. But I was like, all right,
how do I like make this different? So I went
onto Amazon and I got these mini coloring in books,
packs of stickers, I got some slime. I got some Plato,
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like not real Plato, like fake Plato that's cheap, all
of Amazon and it was so good.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
And the cars there were some with cars because Lenny
got on with cars, which he was thrilled about.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
And then I put a little nostalgia purposes, like a
little roll up in there. For the sweet things, I thought,
that's kind of like fun. We had them when we
were kids.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
I think it's nice to have one sweet thing.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
I think so too. Yeah, But honestly, I was so
proud of that birthday party.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
It's late.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
I have never enjoyed hosting as much as I did
for that bay and I really liked it, considering how
like that was also the day after, or the weekend
after I had my breakdown in Sheridan, So yeah, there
you go about.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Did she clean up? I was really jealous of how
many beautifully riped gifts she had because I love presents.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Literally today I have to go out and buy a
new storage container because she has so many gifts, which
is so nice. She's so lucky, and all of them
are like so well fought, like hell, the books that
you got her very good, she's obsessed, very cool good.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
I got her an arrangement of activity books and normal
books about Ballerina's.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
Very cute, very cute. And she also got a few
dress ups. This time a couple of tea party sets,
so it's so cute. But now I'm like, okay, well,
currently all sitting next to me, I need to put
these somewhere, so I'm just gonna go and buy some
of those, like you know.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
She had so much fun and wrapping them all.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
It took us three days to unwrap the presents, like
we would unwrap some every night, but because Charlie gets
home late from work and he wanted to see her
unwrap them, I'm like, yeah, Pattie gets home and then
I'm like, all right, we really need to kind of
go to bird now, so just do two. And it
was good.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
I think as well. They get so overwhelmed with toys
and new things, so that's probably a really good way
to do it.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Yeah, And also I wanted her to kind of take
stock of what she was getting. You know, have you
ever seen the kids at Christmas and they just like
rip one open and that moves straight on too the
next because it's not so like and I'm like, no, no, no,
let's just like take stock of what we've got and
be thankful. I was trying to explain to her, like,
not everyone as lucky as you are, Like you're very
lucky to get these presents. But yeah, it was really nice,
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and it was so nice seeing everyone, I think is
the main thing. So yeah, birthday parties, I'm still into them,
and I'm not upset that she's three. I'm excited, like
I'm excited to barn her personality for this year.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
You know. Okay, to finish up the episode, we always
want to leave you with at least one good recommendation,
because who doesn't love a wreck. So it's the author
Noel w ill eh Hill. I don't know, we'll link
her in the show notes. She writes horror books, and
(45:21):
I read five when I was in Bali in February five. Wow. Yeah,
I don't know why I was reading horror books while
I was like on a solo trip by myself. That
was probably a little bit silly. But you know, regardless,
if you like horror thriller. But the reason I don't
want to publicly recommend them on Instagram is because some
of them are a little bit ooh why did your
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brain go there? Kind of thing?
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Oh okay, do you know what I mean? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I always think that about horror stuff. Though, I'm like,
you have to be a sick person to write anything like.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
True true, but I think it's more so with supernatural.
I don't know. Maybe I just I read a lot
of thriller, but I don't read a lot of horror,
and maybe that's very true.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
It just feels weird that I enjoy reading about that
sort of thing. But there's obviously lots of other people
enjoy reading horror. I enjoyed watching horror as well, so.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
New genre that people just love to be scared shitless.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
Not me anyway, Key resells, you have got a bassinetch. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
I wanted to talk about this because I mentioned earlier
that Suki came out and she immediately I just knew
that she was going to be a clingy baby, that
she was gonna want me a lot. And I never
really heard much about co sleepers when I was pregnant
with Rue. And I think we've got a bit of
a culture when we have our kids that they've been
(46:42):
inside of us for nine ten months, and then it's
like we want them to sleep independently away from us, right,
But it's not actually realistic. We Kelly and I have
talked a lot about the fact that we have co
slept safely in the safe way in which you can
do so.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
I also co slept very unsafely before I educated myself
on it because I had no one to talk to
about it or no one to say hey, exactly.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
And I famously wrote in a girl's chat, who's co sleft?
And no one answered me, and I was like, I'm
the worst mother in the world.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
I'm me And I was like, oh, of course we
all do. Here's some information so you can do.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
It properly exactly.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
So.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
I had heard from a girlfriend of mine about a
co sleeping basin at and I thought when Suki wasn't
vibing the snoop, I also found that my anxiety with her,
for some reason was quite high. I think it was
because my whole brain was consumed by a toddler that
I didn't feel like maybe there was enough room for
me to, like, I don't know, keep my baby safe
(47:39):
or something. I just wanted to see her at all times.
And so I actually reached out to our friends at Aultuto,
who you know, at the start of the year we
did the sponsorship with for their lovely nursing chair that
I'm sitting in now, which is just.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
You have become ash one with that chair.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
If you see me, I'm with the chair. We are one.
And I reached out to our friends all because I
had heard that their close sleeping bacinet, the Cozy Breeze Plus,
was amazing, and I just said to them, hey, guys,
like in the depths of my newborn state, would you
be interested in me trialing this out and seeing if
I like it or not. They were really lovely and
they sent it to me. And I cannot tell you
(48:19):
how good this crow sleeper has been. You can change
it from just a normal bacinet on wheels to one
that rocks. There is an attachment on it that you
kind of put underneath your mattress so that the co
sleeper does not move. There isn't like any way it
can move. And it has a little side that you
unzip that falls down so that you can basically your
(48:40):
baby is level with you, so they can really sleep
next to you, but separately in a bacinet. It's really
good if you want to breastfeed sidelining.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
So the side comes off. I'm having a look at
a photo of it.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
I'm here, Yeah, the side comes off, so it's mesh yeah,
and the side zips down and then your baby you
can just basically move your baby from your boob, you know,
into her back over, Yeah, roll her back over. And
for me, it meant that Suki, I just knew straight
away she could sense me anywhere. So putting her into
a basinet just wasn't working. It was too far away
(49:15):
and it was disturbing her sleep. So being able to
just pass her into the co sleeping bacinet, which is
attached to the bed, was so good. And then I
found that during the day I could wheel that bacinet
into the lound room and have her next to me.
Like That's how I was able to work in the
early days, or even just like watch TV without having
(49:35):
to hold her. The bacinet was really handy for that.
So it's a little bit larger than your average like bassinet,
which is good, so you get a bit more use
out of it. And it's chic. It's a lovely color
that looks good. It looked good in the room. But
I can't recommend it enough. It's just an option to
have that maybe you haven't thought of, because for some
reason people don't want to speak about co sleeping in
(49:55):
ways that they have been able to do that, and
I just think it's the most genius way to be
able to co sleep with your baby, have them next
to you, have them in sight. It was really good
for my anxiety with her. And yeah, we'll put a
link in the show notes.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
And with that we will love you and leave you.
She is. We'll be back next week with a truly
great rant from key Oh where she shares exactly how
she's found life lately navigating a toddler and newborn, so
she will really go into the fresh hell and all
of the feelings that poor Strudle has had. And I
say poor Strudle, but I should say poor Key Yeah, us.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
Or both of us really our last reminder to please
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I think that's the easiest way to get the word
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(50:48):
It's which it is.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
Bye, good to be back.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
Woo
We acknowledged the traditional custodians of the land we're recording
on today.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hello, Hello, Welcome back, shitters. Oh gosh, it's good to
be back. It is a brand spanking new season and
error of your all time favorite podcast, Eat, Sleep, Shit, Repeat,
your unhinged podcast about the madness that is motherhood and
everything in between. I'm Kelly mccaren.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
We are back baby, not officially yet in studio. I'm
Kiries and I'm currently have a baby not attached to
me right now, but any moment now she is going
to wake and attached to my very engorged, mastitis filled
right breast.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Oh poor thing.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I'm on the front line here for the shitters, but
we're back in front of the mic, and I am
so excited to be using my brain in a different way.
I can't tell you.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Oh well, if you are new here, welcome And if
you missed us, welcome back. We really missed the show too,
and the messages I've been receiving we've been off really
reminded me just how important it is and the impact
that it's having all over the world. Now. Really, there's
been a couple that I've sent through to key from
like random locations that she's like, Oh, whoa, We've got
(01:13):
shit is everywhere.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I know, Isn't it cool? That's what's so fun about podcasting,
Like you never know who is listening. Speaking of though,
can we actually take this opportunity, just at the start
of a brand new season, brand new show, to kindly
request that you go and leave us a rating and review.
We want to make the pod bigger and better than ever,
and we really need the Shit has helped to do so.
So it's super easy. You just find us wherever you
(01:35):
listen to your podcast, So right now, wherever you're listening,
scroll down, make sure you're subscribed, and then leave us
a little rating and review.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So, with this new season and era of the pod,
I love the word error. I know that it's era,
but I like saying error just error more impactful. We
are going to try to do things a little bit differently,
and of course you are welcome to share your thoughts
and feedback.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yes, So after a few months of this new format,
we're going to be putting out the feelers to see
what you're thinking and see what the general consensus is.
Because if the majority of our shitter is aren't vibing
the new format. Then we're going to switch it up again.
We just want the show to grow and evolve as
we are growing and evolving too.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
So today's episode is going to be a standalone catch
up episode in probably some pretty curty glory because it
is us, we will update you on exactly what the
fuck has been going on.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
And then from next week our monthly rotation of episodes
will start and it's going to revert back to the
start every four weeks. So if that's confusing, don't worry.
We're going to run you through it.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So the first episode of every rotation will be a
good old fashioned rant, probably one of my favorite things
to do. This episode will kick off with both of
us doing our weekly peek and pit.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Then can I just be a bitch for a sec?
This was actually inspired by one of my favorite podcasts
that I listened to called Las Culturistas. Shout out to them.
Obviously they're not going to listen, but we have to
give credit where credit's due, and we're going to link
them in the show notes so you can start listening
to them because you will love So the rant will
go for like mac sixty seconds and it's timed and
(03:11):
it's about something that we are annoyed with, about motherhood,
about something that's happening with our little ones and.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Our life, really like something's just really grading on us.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Just relatable stuff that we are talking about, and then
we're going to debate or have a little bit of
a discussion about the topic in question. We will of
course take turns, but I'm going to be kicking off
things next week because it's only fair that I get
to rant about the fresh hell that is going from
one to two.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, that sort of trumps like what's going on in
my life, which is just my cat who insists on
urinating where she shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Well, that's not good.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
To fix, really really annoying. I need help. Then the
next episode will be I just don't know if I care.
So every month, once again we'll bring article, a study,
a report, or you know, TikTok video that's really conversation
provoking and thought provoking and something that people really seem
to care about but we just don't know if we do,
(04:08):
so are we interested or does it boor us to sleep?
This will also just be a really good deep dive
for shitters who can't be ass looking into things and
want them explain to them in like a really easy
to digest way.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah, because I'm always like, let's talk about the study
and Cal's like that's boring, and I'm like, but someone
might care. So then also originated from.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
The idea is that we've got to make it interesting
exactly exactly at the end, we just go nas still
don't care.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yeah, no, I don't care, but thanks for your work done.
So the third episode will be shitter Led. We're going
to have a guest joining us and they'll be kicking
off a convo with their sixty second bitch about something
before we have a good old fashioned yap and yeah
with them about it. So no experts unless they're super
fun and interesting. We're just going to be getting on
your regular Joe blows, friends of ours, people we know
(04:55):
that are going through the same things. Hit is, Yeah,
shit is, shit is.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Finally, every month our rotation will finish with an episode
dedicated to drunk parenting advice with us, except we're not
always going to be drunk because sometimes we might be
recording at nine am on a Tuesday and no judgment.
But yeah, you know we're not on holidays. No, you
loved the Unhinged solo app I did, so we're going
to make it into a regular thing. This is the
(05:20):
one episode per month that we won't have a peek
and pit. We're just going to drive straight into your conundrums.
Questions please if you will, and you can submit your
questions via the link on our install It'll just live
in the bio and it will always be completely anonymous. Yep, exactly.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
So that's the plan and we're really excited about it.
But as promised, we kind of need to catch up.
There's a bit that's been on, hasn't it.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
We have so much to catch up on. Okay, key,
what the hell is going on in your life?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Oh god? Well, I'll start off with the biggest thing,
because as if having a newborn whilst also having a
toddler isn't enough, We are trying to buy a house.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yay, And are you feeling really defeated? Yes or no?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yeah, definitely. We are in our fifth month of looking
for a house. We have been every single Saturday, bar
the weekend of Rou's birthday to open homes, and I've
been going during the week and we have come really
close twice. The first time, I don't think it was
our house the second time was our house and someone
stole it from us, so that's pretty hard to get over.
(06:30):
But my God, like it really opens your eyes up
to the process. Like everyone says, it's one of the
most stressful things you'll do in your life is buying
a house and having a baby, which we've decided to
do both at the same time, which is.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Very stupid, which we know.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
But literally my apartment is I hate it. And I
don't know about UKL but like when you're living somewhere.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
That you just hate, you want out.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I want out, And because it's also where I work,
I just don't have a sanctuary. And because I'm here
all the time with the baby and working, it's just
a little much. So I think it's the stakes are
a bit higher. I've also been through a complete identity
crisis because spoiler alert, we cannot afford to live on
the beaches in Sydney. It's just not attainable for us,
so we are going suburban outrageous, So it's also been
(07:15):
a bit of an identity crisis. But I'm feeling really
good about the area.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Key is so funny with something she messaged me one day,
She goes, do you know much about this suburb, and
I was like, oh, yeah, I've got a bunch of
friends that lived there. I used to live like two
suburbs from there. It was really great bub bluh. And
she goes, oh, I just don't know. Maybe I'll get
in touch with that person and talk to them about oposed.
(07:39):
Like I've never met someone that's just like, oh.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
No, it's really okay. But this is my reasoning, right,
It's like I grew up in britzee shout out to Brisbane,
we love you. Have lived in Sydney for ten years,
have only lived in the same suburb for ten years.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
So whereas I've always chopped changed suburbs exactly, I've lived
in the most rogue Sydney suburbs, which I think is
the right way to do.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
With anyone that's moving to Sydney who I chat to,
I'm always like, biggest piece of advice. I really regret
not moving around when I didn't have like ties like now,
when the thing that kind of decides the area that
we want to live in is like, is there a
sense of community.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Are the schools great? Like?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Where are we zoned? Like all of those really sensible questions.
Whereas when you're younger and a bit more agile, you
can live where it's really cool and fun and edgy.
Like right now where I live, it's like, on a
Saturday night going out with a baby and a toddler,
I'm walking into a freaking night club on the street.
It's just so not good. So we had a big weekend.
We were looking at houses in the suburb that we
(08:40):
want to move to, and we had our friend's birthday
party who they live out there as well, and we
would just honestly, it's the best day I've had in
so long. Even though I had mass status and was
like in paying serious pain the whole time, it was
so nice being in our suburb that we're hoping to
move to. And then we came back to our house
and we were just like fucking the suburb.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
So anyway, the news is were buying a house but
haven't found one yet.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah. And I think I've worked with different people that
have been like on the auction circuit before and it
just seems awful, like weekend after weekend, Yeah, which is
why I stopped before I even really started looking like
we were looking, but we didn't actually, like ever go
(09:27):
bid on something or go speak to a bank. And
I still sometimes have a peek at real estate dot
com just to see what's.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
How addictive is it once you get into the hang
of it.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Oh, with everything that's been going on with my nanny,
I just was feeling like extra sentimental about keeping her house,
and yeah, I get that I don't really need any more,
like we could really use it, but like that's we
don't need it. And yeah, so that's sort of been
put on hiatus for a while. But I do at
(09:57):
some point need to speak to someone about money because
I've got no idea what to do.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, financial advisor, I reckon that's a good good step
for that. I luckily have Charlie, who is in finance,
really good with money. He knows what to do. But
if we were not together, I would be getting definitely
a financial advisor. You just want to make sure that
you're making the right choices with your money, and they
don't teach you that stuff at school, so it's like
you have to find someone who is going to educate
(10:22):
you and give you tips and tricks on what to
actually deal with it to make your money grow.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
But I'm not very good at spending money. On things
that bore me, which is why I still don't have
a proper accountant. I've given you my accountant's name, and
I'm just so like, I hate spending money on things
that are boring, Like I'll spend the most outrageous money
on things that are fun and like pretty, but on
(10:47):
anything like that that's going to benefit me more. Nah,
hate it, hate it?
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Well, yeah, I guess because it's not a house is
tangible because you'll be living in it. But I get
what you mean. It is snoozy. It's like when you're
You're Red Joe, You're like, oh, this is annoying, but
I've got to do it or else I can't drive
my car.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yeah, so I need to update everyone on my beautiful
nanny because.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I'm still like people of wanting to know what's going on. Dying.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
It's not funny, but Gallow's humor it is like a
little bit funny. So, like six weeks ago, the doctor said, yeah,
she's dying. There was the palliative like little sign on
the door at the aged care thing. Everyone was sitting
with her around the clock, like she did not have
(11:32):
long Yeah. Sometimes you know when you just do things
and then you look back on it and you're like, oh,
for goodness sake. So at one point I posted this
like sad little video on Instagram going, well, it's Nanny's
time and it's time for her to go. And now
it's like six weeks later, well she's still here, duh
with no, she's not going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Yeah, but cal those were real emotions in that moment,
Like I was talking to you pretty much every day.
She's a strong woman actually, and she's turned it around.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
This is why it's just so funny because her entire life,
so she's got four boys. When they were all really little,
she was in quite a bad accident and that's why
she's got like this thing on her head. So she
was in such a bad car accident for my first birthday.
That was her first ever heart attack where she needed
a triple bypass. What she since had a further two
(12:24):
oh my god, like severe heart attacks with triple bypasses.
She has emphysema. She had a fall so bad in
Perth that she was in a hospital for weeks in
her entire body like she was black and blue. She
was in such a bad car accident that the other
person in the car ended up dying. This was such
a bad car accident. She's been in car accidents with
(12:45):
me before. I had to save her from drowning when
I couldn't even swim that well myself in the pool
that my sister now owns. She got hit by a
boss Kelly, I'm not joking. She got this as wild
how it was in the paper local elderly woman hit
by bus. She was fine. There is just so many things.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
She is so resilient, resilient, but and lucky and lucky.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
She's so lucky. But it is also really sad and
awful because there's no way if she was of sound
to mind that she would want to be here.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah I know, I mean yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
So she's back up and at it, but not walking.
But she's in a chair every day. Like they use
this little thing. It's quite funny. It's like you know
those things that they used to get sea creatures out
of the ocean, like a little hammock almost, Yeah, that's
how they get her in and out of bed.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's so funny.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
So I'm like, someone proll shamoo back in the ocean,
and the nurses don't really get my humor. Anyway. So
she's in the chair like she's got a catheter in
permanently and like there's just no dignity left and there's
no Yeah, she's just such a proud lady. And the dementia,
you know, she doesn't know who I am ninety eight
(14:08):
percent of the time, and I've got a good sense
of human most of the time. Like, you know, she'll
say to me, I've never seen you before and you're
in my life, and I'm like, well, that's unfortunately not true.
And you know, I'm so glad that I bother coming
every day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's one of those
things where she's not eating and drinking that much, and
(14:29):
I know that she's tiny and not doing that much,
but I don't see how you can sort of go
on for too long eating and drinking such little amounts.
But yeah, it's just like this long, awful process. But
my god, that lady is stubborn and resilient, and you know,
she's my nanny through and through.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah, it's often I think, especially with dementia. I've experienced
at it within our family, and it's often harder for
the people that are left caring for them. I just
don't feel like there's enough acknowledgment of that, Like it's
really hard to still show up for someone every day,
which you would do it in any circumstance, of course,
(15:12):
but when they don't remember who you are, it's really
difficult sometimes just to not not let it affect you deeply.
So to have a sense of humor about it, I
think is the best way.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
It's the only way. Key You've got to laugh, where
you cry our life motto. Because it's also sometimes and
that people don't really talk about. They can get quite cranky.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, because.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
They're very frustrated as well.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
They called it at my Nana's thing, they called it
the like when it's coming sundowners sundown. Is that's right, Yeah,
you wouldn't want to come at that time because it's
awful basically.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yeah, yeah, but I sort of have to go at
that time. Well not at the moment actually, because she's
eating a lot more and better. But there was a
period like a couple of weeks where I went every
single night for dinner to make sure that she ate
some dinner. Yeah, because like even if I could just
get her dessert into her, I was like, that's better
than nothing. But like, yeah, she was shouting at me
(16:08):
and like get away. I don't want it, and I'm like, Nanny, please,
you have to eat something like for your own health.
But yeah, anyway, and then I was thinking I was
having like a big sob about it last night because
I was thinking, Oh my god, imagine if I was
her age and I didn't recognize Lenny, Like, it's dementia
(16:29):
is fucked. It is the Yeah, it's really It's so cruel.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
It's really cruel.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Because at the end all we have our people and
our memories of our people. If you don't have that,
you don't have anything.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
It's really heartbreaking. I remember my grandad got released from
hospitals is when he was dying and basically there was
nothing else they could do for him, so he was
released into palliat of care. And my nana's dementia because
of obviously he had this heart attack and that his
end of life was approaching, it sped up her dementia,
which often does when traumatic events happen. And I just
remember standing outside of the room when we had brought
(17:08):
them back together after he had been in hospital and
she had moved into the home, and I remember him
just like pleading with her to remember who he was,
like I'm your husband, like you're my wife, like we
love each other. That was the hardest thing I have
ever heard, Like it was just heartbreaking, heartbreaking, and he
had been living with her and her dementia. They had
(17:31):
hidden it from us for years. We all had suspicions,
but it never was told to us, and obviously when
everything happened, it all kind of came out. It is
the cruelest of cruel thing that can happen to you
when you live a long life and you get to
the age where you just want to enjoy life, and
then that's what happens.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
It's just awful.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
So I really think of you guys all the time
a lot, and I think, even though she doesn't remember you,
you being there with her is just so beautiful.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
And she does sometimes yeah, yeah, Like there's usually because
I ask her every day and I never like try
to force it or anything, but every day I go,
do you know who I am? And she most of
the time is like she just laughs and she goes no,
or most of the time though she's still sort of
happy to see me. But then every now' they're familiar.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I think they like they know you're familiar, so they
know that you're safe, safe, and they.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Don't really know who you are.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
It did break my heart though one day when I
went to grab her hand and she sort of flinched,
and then I realized, like, oh my god, she doesn't know,
like I'm just a weird stranger touching her. Yeah. Yeah,
fucked me like that was awful. But the other day
she looks at me when I asked that question, she goes,
you're my granddaughter, like it was just so, and it's
(18:42):
like whenever those moments happen, she looks at me like
I'm crazy, Like as if I wouldn't know who you are. Yeah, yeah, yeah, hello,
Oh so I have to tell you something funny that
I do when I'm stressed. Yeah, And because I'm currently
recording this in lef his room because there's so much space.
When I'm stressed, I get rid of things.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yep.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
So I sold. There was like a couple of days
where people were just turning up because I was just
selling things on Facebook marketplace, but I didn't have anything
to replace it with. So now I'm just living in
some pretty empty spaces with just piles of crap everywhere.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah, I get that. You just want like quick things
to make you feel good. So you're like, I'm going
to sell this. I'm going to sell this, and you're
like oh.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
And then I was doing some donations and oh my goodness,
I have like a bit of a rant at some
point to go on about Salvos and Vinnie's and the donations.
But I was giving away some really good stuff and
my sister was like looking through one of the bags
and she goes, why are you getting rid of these?
You love these. I just.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Sit with you while you're getting rid of the things.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah, And I probably needed someone here when I was
selling everything on Facebook marketplace. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
You were showing me Lenny's big boy bend. You're like, yeah,
just don't look at the piles. There's nothing to put
his things in. And I was just like, all right,
I'm not gonna ask. I'm just gonna push through.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Cute bed that was a few weeks ago. We're still here,
and the bed also doesn't have anything on it because
the cat keeps pissing on it. Honestly, she's doing my
head in. Every time I make the bed, she pisses
on it. She also pisses on Luke's clothes, like piles
of clothes. But that's it. It's so annoying.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
It must be like a becuse.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Men.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Maybe it's some hormone that they release.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Well, I've got to get a dsex soon, so hopefully
that will help.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Fuck, that's annoying. No, I can't deal with pee.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
It just it's disgusting. He I would rather pooh.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, Pooh's a lot easier to deal with. We it
just seeps into stuff and it seeps.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
And cat wi smells disgusting.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Yeah, it's not great.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
It's like there dehydrated elderly men. That's how bad he is.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Okay, I didn't need that. I could have done about that,
thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Anyway. I know that we're going to get into the
going from one to two more in your round next week,
but talk to us a little about like how you're
going with wrangling and newborn managing businesses, dealing with the
shit show that is life.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
It is not for the fainthearted. I think it is.
Really it's really testing me. I think I have to say, like,
we have got a pretty easy baby, and I think
that had she not been easy I would have lost
my mind, because I already did a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Over I wouldn't say that she's an easy baby. From
what I've heard, she doesn't sleep independently most of the time.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Well no, that was in her first weeks of being
a baby, but now she.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Wouldn't sleep in a cot or like at nighttime.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
She wouldn't sleep in a cot at nighttime. But this
is all in like I feel like we're now she's
gonna be thirteen weeks this week, still just over three months,
so she's still a baby, not a newborn anymore. But
I think in the first eight weeks it was rough
because I was really trying to breastfeed and get everything
happening with that. I was trying to learn who she was,
and she was just a very clingy baby.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Very different to Rue, very different to Rue.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Rue was like really happy to be swaddled really tightly
and sat down and she would just kind of go
with the flow. But very quickly I learned that Suki
just wanted to be on me. So it was a
lot in the first eight weeks, I would say, is
when it was extremely hard, because I think what happens
is like you forget the newborn stage. So I had
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like blacked out or something that first bit, but everyone
kept I.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Think everyone does. And it was quite funny though when
people would be like, oh, does Key having a newborn
make you clucky? It all? But like talking to you
every day, I was like, God, no.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
No, we were in the trenches. Like I can't even
imagine had she not been a good feeder, had something
else been wrong, because it was tough and she was
a very textbook baby. Like everything I was saying to
my midwife, which can I just it is obviously a
massive investment and something that was such a privilege for
me to be able to do. But having that midwife
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come every second day and every four days and every
week for like six weeks postpartum was the best thing
because I was going to her, is this normal? Is
this normal? She's like, I don't know what to tell
your key, Like she's gaining weight, she's really happy, she's
looking good. She's just a baby.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
She's just a baby. And that was just so cute
and smiley.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
She's so cute and smiling. She's just the most delicious thing.
But that was the thing that I think was the
most difference this time. It's like, obviously, yes, you've done
it before, but it really doesn't mean anything because there's
completely different personalities, right, So you don't get freaked out
by like if they don't pooh for a few days,
because they're like, okay, that's normal. So you're not as
highly strung, but you're still really tired because you've got
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another baby as well to look after another toddler.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
But I wake having still.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
And they wake up still, and they get in the
bed and the dogs in the bed, and it's like,
thank god, you've got a king bed, because fucking I'd
be sleeping on the floor if not. But I think
what was so good is just reassuring that she's a baby,
like this is all normal stuff, Like don't worry, there's
nothing more that you can do. So having someone to
remind me was like, yep, I've just got to lean
into it. So I just leant into it. For the
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first three months of her life, it was like she
only sleeps on me. That's fine, that's it. I just
have to kind of get used to it. And also
like trying to work, it was like I just have
to go with the flow, Like if I'm recording a
podcast and she's talking or yupping or crying or whatever.
To not let it stress me out.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Yeah, I mean fair enough. If she's crying, then you
know you sort of have to press pause. But yeah,
she's having a gurg or having a suck like, it's fine.
And so I think it has been really hard.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Like, don't get me wrong, there are days when I
have called Charlie to be like, you've got to come
home now. But it's more so the sleep deprivation and
then having to deal with a toddler who is just
turned three. It's just a bit of a recipe for
a disaster. And I think obviously which you can relate
to Kella's not having I do have my sister in
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law here who does help and is amazing, but yeah,
but she's got two young kids herself exactly, and she
works full time. So it's like it's not having a
grandma around to come. That's the thing that's missing, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
That. That and not having Charlie's mum this time around
to call the way you did with U exactly, which
I would have been heartbreaking as well, and something both
to navigate over the past couple of months.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
It's just an added layer of because you're so happy
because you've got this new baby, and they're just delicious
and delightful. But there's someone that's missing out on and
that has been there previously, and you know how excited
they were to meet your baby and just to you know,
take them off your hands when you're in the depths
of being like, what the hell am I doing? But
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it's been good. Like as we've come out of the
three months, I feel like once you get past that
twelve weeks, it's still hard, of course, but I really
didn't think so this time when it was leading up
to the twelve weeks. I'm not gonna get to twelve
weeks and it's all going to feel easier.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
But somehow it does.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Like you just I think it's just a perfect amount
of time for you to understand the rhythm of your baby.
And obviously things change, but you know, I know that
when she wakes up in the morning, I'm gonna feed
her and she's going to do a big pooh straight away.
I know that she's gonna probably want to sleep for
forty five minutes after I drop real daycare. Like, you
start to notice the consistencies and the patterns, and you're
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like all right, and then that gives you a bit
of confidence to plan your day or I don't know,
it's just what they say about getting to that twelve
weeks that you know through the fourth trimester is really true.
It kind of gives you a bit of breathing room
to be able to get to the next bit. Although
the adrenaline does run out, so I'm falling asleep during
every night feed and waking up being like, shit, I've
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just fallen asleep, Like I've definitely the adrenaline's definitely worn off,
but caught a bit of a stride. Do you get
to nap during the day, No, because I've scot shit
to do. Like it's not like when you've got one
baby and you're like, I.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Mean I never napped, obviously, I never napped even with
one little baby. Bit yeah I wish that I had.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yeah, And I was doing that in the early early weeks.
But now I'll get I'll have a shit night and
I'll be like, I've got to take a nap today,
and the day just gets away from me. It's like, well, no,
there's stuff to do. I've got to reset the house.
A house is a mess like toddlers are so messy.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
They are so messy, they get their every single toe out,
Like God, I'm obviously painting this with a very positive brush. Like.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
My most recent breakdown was in the middle of Sheridan.
I was buying Rue a big girl bed for her birthday.
I thought this would be so nice. It was a Friday,
I had the baby, I had her. I'm going to
take her out and we're going to get big girl
sheets for your bed. I said, you can pick them out. Obviously,
I was only going to give her the ones I liked,
and she could pick from those. Yes, And we went
to two shops and then I was like, why am
(28:02):
I giving her like the options of shops? Like I
kind of fucked up. I know that I did. Anyway,
we get to Sheridan and I'm like, I'm just gonna
get everything here. It's all forty percent off, it's all
good quality, fine done. And she just ran circles around me.
It was so bad, and I was so exhausted that
I was weeping in the middle of Sheridan and.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
She screaming or just going crazy, just.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Going crazy, running around, laughing, pulling things out of boxes.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
They're like, oh, but not listening. To you when you
were like, stop.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
It, yeah, not listening to me. Like the thing with
Rue is like she isn't a hitter, that isn't anything
I have to worry about with her, right, but she
does not listen to me. So I will say her
name twenty times in a row and she will not
even look at me. And I cannot tell you how
frustrating favory when you've spent a whole morning. So up
until that point, I had said her name a million times,
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like just to get her to do basic stuff. And
for me, I get really upset when things aren't fair.
And that's something that I find really and hard about
raising a toddler.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
It's like because they don't have that.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
They don't give a shit. And I'm like, it's like,
fus fair, yeah, Like I've done everything for you. All
I'm asking is for you to not take your arms
out of your seat, bet in the car because I'm trouble,
And then I can't duck drive the car, can I
Because I'm gonna lose all my points, not to mention
the bloody money that happens that you have to pay.
But I had just reached my limit. It was like
she does not listen to me. I'm out numbered, I've
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got this baby on me, my boobs are aching, and
I'm just trying to do fucking nice thing for my
toddler and she does not give a shit. So that
was my most recent breakdown, and that was off the
back of Suki just deciding for three days that she
was not going to sleep like we had been sleeping.
One thing will happen with the baby, the toddler will
act up and all compounds. You've had no sleep and
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it's a bit of a disaster. But the toddler calms down,
you get a solid couple of days sleep or not
even think I got one good night's sleep, like Suki
just went back to sleeping pretty well, like only one
wake up a night. I couldn't put her down during
those three days basically overnight, so it was like awful,
But I just got one good night of sleep where
I could put her in her cot and maybe work
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up once or twice.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
One or two feeds and then goes back to sleep.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yeah, it's one to three times I'm waking up overnight
at the moment, so that's like standard. I can deal
with normal, but then should go through something developmentally, and
it was like I could not put her down. I'd
put her down, turn the lamp off, She'd start crying,
and I was just like, how am I going to sleep?
I cannot sleep sitting up anymore.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
My neck is fucked. She still hate the snoop. Yeah,
we sold it.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
We put it on and she screamed. She screamed, and
I was just like, all right, we don't have enough
space in the apartment, sell it, get rid of it.
We got the side sleep all to toe and she
liked it because she's so clingy, she has to be
right next to me. I literally will walk into a
room she's crying, Charlie's holding her. I'll walk into a room.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
And she'll go, ah, I can see her, I can,
I can.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
I can smell her, like if I'm in the room,
Charlie can hold her because she can smell me. But
if I'm not there, it's just she's getting better, she's
getting better. But it was really intense there for a moment.
But what I was saying was that things can switch
on a dime, but they can also switch back, and
you'll be surprised at how quickly you can recover with
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like a bit of sleep and a toddler that is
being nice to you for at least, you know, and
before they turn on you again.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
The not listening is driving me crazy as well.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
What are you doing because I bribe everything. You're not
going to daycare unless you do this, And she's like,
I want to go to daycare, and I'm like, well,
put your shoes on.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
I don't know what to see. I have a bribery box,
which I'm sure the experts you would have a lot
to say about, but they're not here, are they. I
am just at my wits end with the not listening
to me, and I just said it in the way
that I say it to him. I'm like, you need
to listen. Yeah, listen to me. Oh my god. It
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drives me insane. And Luke has started night shifts. Oh,
he hasn't started recently. It's been for like four or
five weeks now, Yeah, which means that four five nights
a week. It's just me. Okay, so I have to
finish work early to pick Lenny up, organized dinner, bath, teeth,
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getting him to bed. Every single thing is on me.
I'd say overall, I'm mostly fine, but there's some nights
last Tuesday, he started whining at me in the car
on the way home, and I literally just burst into
tears because the thought of another night of just us
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ahead of me with no help, and just also I
think I'd probably been by myself a lot during the day,
so I was just like probably a bit lonely as well,
and I was just so off it. Oh, it's so bleak.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
It's so bleak when you are down the barrel of
a dinner bathom bed routine. It's all on the toddler
as to whether or not this goes well exactly. And
they're psychotic, and so it's literally it's not even fifty
to fifty, I reckon, it's eighty twenty to whether there's
no final reason, Like no, you know, you you could think, oh, well,
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if they did nap during the day, then maybe they'll
be nicer at nighttime.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
No, sometimes he doesn't nap, and he's still an angel.
Sometimes he has a long as snap and he's an
absolute monster. Still. Yeah, And I really struggle not to
lose my temper so much. I lose my temper, like
I'm so not proud of it, but like, oh my goodness,
it's just so to try to not just with a
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awful little monster.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
It's honestly so hard. I'm the same like cal I
just get really like shouting. I'm like, don't do that.
All of the good parenting stuff goes out the and
I'm just there being like bribing it. And they lead
up to her birthday. I canceled her party maybe one
hundred and fifty times. You know, like you're not having
a party. That's it. That is not good parenting. But
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they are so young, that's all they understand.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
My thing is, though, is that, like I say this
to Luke all the time, I'm like, you need to
give him a punishment that makes sense, and you need
to follow through with it. However, I still don't actually
know if that works because the few times that I
have followed through with Lenny certainly didn't make his behavior
any better the next day.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Still no, and I think, like, I can't cancel a
party that was never going to happen, you know.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Like, oh no, I follow her sometimes I'm pretty strict.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Okay, I don't, but do you know what I have
done is that we do put her in her bedroom.
And I know that this is a lot of people
are like, you can't do this, but I think it's
different to time out where they're like sitting and looking
at an empty wall. I say, you've got to go
and sit in your room. You can play with whatever's
in there. But that's how I basically break the cycle
of you're not listening to me, you're having a tantrum.
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It's reached like a ten and there's nothing else for
me to do, and I myself need a break. So
she'll send her room she wants. She just scream in
there though, Yeah she screams, but then she'll pick up
a book, start reading, coloring in and then I'm like, okay,
have you come down now?
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Are you ready to come back out?
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yes? All right?
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Can we get Oh that sounds good.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Then it's working.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Well, it is working, but it feels wrong. Let me
tell you. It feels wrong being like you've got to
go to your bedroom. I think it's the smartest way
to do it, to put a little bit of space
between you both and just to stop the cycle of
whatever the fuck is going on in their head.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Honestly, I would do that, but Lenny literally will stand
at the door, throwing himself against it and screaming no.
He's an intense little kid.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
He's well, yeah, I mean the screams aren't great, are they.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
It's not good. How did you feel about returning three,
because remember I made an entire episode learning turning through it. Yeah,
I had so many feelings.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
I think I'm a little bit different to you, Like
I like celebrating those things. I think I like creating
those core memories. For me. It was really exciting this birthday,
just because it's the first one they're really going to remember.
Like I don't think they really remember two, but three.
She's like, I want a ballerina party. I want a
blue ey cake, And it was all she talked about
for months, Like the month leading up to her party.
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It was like every day she would have a tandrum
because she thought she was going to her party, but no,
she was going to date.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Because the concept of time is two minutes, four minutes.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah yeah, So next time, I'm probably not going to
tell her until a week out. But it was awesome.
I was so excited for her to have her birthday
and for her to like to teach her you know
that she's this many she's three, because we learned for weeks.
I was like, you're two and holding up two fingers
and then you're going to be three soon. So we
were like learning that, which was really fun, and then
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the actual party, Like I was really proud of how
the party turned.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Out so good. Yeah, Kelly came, I did. Sorry. I came,
and I dressed for the occasion.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
She came and she slaid. She came and she slaid
in a full too. Two get up.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Yeah. Can I just tell you, I never look up
somewhere before I go. Yeah, so I thought it was
like a sports hall or something that you'd hire it.
Oh okay, yeah, so I didn't think about like other patrons,
you'd actually been there and I rock up and it's
like a pub. Yeah. Yeah, it's like our little lots there.
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And I was dressed like a ballet teacher.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
It's true. But you were also like twinning with Charlie
who had a full leotard, Radley.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Who was best dressed. He was he was better than
Rue even with her teeny tiny little bottom and cowboy boots.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
This is the difference between went men and woman. I'm
like having a bit of a breakdown, being like, oh babe,
I'm just so overwhelmed with this party planning, Like do
you have any ideas basically like fishing to be like
you're not even helping kind of thing. And he's like, yeah, yeah,
like you know, I've got to sort out my tutu.
I'm going to do maybe like a dance with her.
And I was like, Babe, I'm talking about logistics, not
about your outfit. I don't fit any of my clothes, Like,
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I don't really want to hear about your tutu that
you're gonna buy to wear her party.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Anyway, it was the sleigh Dad move though it.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Was, And you know what, I honestly think I've got
the formula to having a kid's birthday party which isn't
overwhelming and stressful. And it all lies and spending a
bit of cash on a children the entertainer, because honestly,
it takes the sting out of it for sixty minutes
or however long you want the entertainer to stay based
on what your budget is, they are centering your party.
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Basically the kids will all flock to them, and it
means that you, as an adult hosting a party, are
able to kind of move around talk to people for
five minutes, say thanks for coming, catch up with them,
whereas if you don't have a cholsres an entertainer. They're
all kind of like running around in different directions and
it's really stressful and you feel like you can't relax.
But I felt like I could relax at that part.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
It's good. I looked like the children's entertainer, Well, she
can just tire me. I'll just do it for you
for free. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Well it's three hundred dollars for sixty minutes. It's not
a bad gig. When she was leaving, I was like, oh,
thank you so much for coming, Like, do you need
help getting to your car? And the whole time she
was talking to the kids, she had an American accent.
When she answered me, she was Australian again, and I
was like, Oh, where's your accent from? And she's like,
oh no, So we actually talk in an American accent
because the kids listen to us more. It makes them
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pay attention to what we're saying if we're talking in
an American accent. And I was like, what, Yeah, because
I watched television, maybe if I call ruin an American accent,
she'll actually listen to me.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Do you know what, I will try it to Lenny
brought back, Lenny, get ready for all out of time?
Come on, can we tell that she is? What Lenny did?
It'striddle's birthday body? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Oh god. I felt bad. But he had a good time.
Apparently told me he.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Had a good time, and I was like, are you sure? Yeah,
he from the moment he walked in, he sat and
glared and hid.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Do you understand now why I don't like children's birthday parties?
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Like, yeah, well, because you don't really get to have
time to enjoy the party either, like you're yeah, you're
sitting with him. He's just so shy and shy things.
And I get it because whenever I go someone with real,
I'm like, oh great, it's gonna be like half an
hour forty five minutes before she let's go with me
and then enjoys what we're doing. But that didn't finish
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fill in It.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Was no, that did not. The only time he was
happy was when we were on the football field kicking
a ball, just us. Yeah, like he actually And then
we went onto the play equipment, but no other children
from the birthday party with hair and he goes, mummy.
I say hello to like one random boy who then
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asked me why Lenny was wearing a dress.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Oh yeah, because it was a ballerina party, so all
of the kids were wearing two does.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
And that's so cu really cute. Well, even if it
wasn't a ballerina party, he can wear whatever the fuck
he wants exactly. And the thing that breaks my heart
is that he was so excited, like he just gets
so overwhelmed, and you know, but he kept being like, oh,
where Strudle And I'm like, oh, Darling, she's busy actually
having fun. She doesn't want to come and sit in
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a corner with you, like I.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Know, but that's just, you know what, He's better in
a one on one scenario, and that's okay.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Like like if he's really comfortable and not too many adults.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Yeah, there were a lot of Look, there was I
don't know how, but I somehow, with a newborn, ended
up planning a party for sixty people, twenty kids and
forty adults. I was like, very chill about the party,
and then I realized how many people coming and I
was like, fuck, but it was fine.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
It was at a pub, so it was fine. Like
it was fine.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
And again, the children's entertaining was great. Outsourcing your cake.
Lucy and her boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Job they al it. I mean, sorry, Lucy, but you
didn't really do anything John John, Oh it was so good.
Was it gluten free? Did you get to eat any Yeah?
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Yeah, it was gluten free dairy free.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
You're joking. It was that good and gluten and dairy free. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
She makes it every year the same. It's just packet
mix actually that they get this awesome dairy gluten and
dairy free one.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
It was so yummy. Lenny did enjoy his piece of cake.
And he really liked the goodie bag. Oh yes, the
slimy rag.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
I slayed the goodie bags. Can I just say, I've
been going to a few parties and like the goodie bags.
All the parents are like, can we not do goody
bags anymore? Because they're just full of lollies, because that's
what they're meant to be. But I was like, all right,
how do I like make this different? So I went
onto Amazon and I got these mini coloring in books,
packs of stickers, I got some slime. I got some Plato,
(42:49):
like not real Plato, like fake Plato that's cheap, all
of Amazon and it was so good.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
And the cars there were some with cars because Lenny
got on with cars, which he was thrilled about.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
And then I put a little nostalgia purposes, like a
little roll up in there. For the sweet things, I thought,
that's kind of like fun. We had them when we
were kids.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
I think it's nice to have one sweet thing.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
I think so too. Yeah, But honestly, I was so
proud of that birthday party.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
It's late.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
I have never enjoyed hosting as much as I did
for that bay and I really liked it, considering how
like that was also the day after, or the weekend
after I had my breakdown in Sheridan, So yeah, there
you go about.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Did she clean up? I was really jealous of how
many beautifully riped gifts she had because I love presents.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Literally today I have to go out and buy a
new storage container because she has so many gifts, which
is so nice. She's so lucky, and all of them
are like so well fought, like hell, the books that
you got her very good, she's obsessed, very cool good.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
I got her an arrangement of activity books and normal
books about Ballerina's.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
Very cute, very cute. And she also got a few
dress ups. This time a couple of tea party sets,
so it's so cute. But now I'm like, okay, well,
currently all sitting next to me, I need to put
these somewhere, so I'm just gonna go and buy some
of those, like you know.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
She had so much fun and wrapping them all.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
It took us three days to unwrap the presents, like
we would unwrap some every night, but because Charlie gets
home late from work and he wanted to see her
unwrap them, I'm like, yeah, Pattie gets home and then
I'm like, all right, we really need to kind of
go to bird now, so just do two. And it
was good.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
I think as well. They get so overwhelmed with toys
and new things, so that's probably a really good way
to do it.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Yeah, And also I wanted her to kind of take
stock of what she was getting. You know, have you
ever seen the kids at Christmas and they just like
rip one open and that moves straight on too the
next because it's not so like and I'm like, no, no, no,
let's just like take stock of what we've got and
be thankful. I was trying to explain to her, like,
not everyone as lucky as you are, Like you're very
lucky to get these presents. But yeah, it was really nice,
(44:47):
and it was so nice seeing everyone, I think is
the main thing. So yeah, birthday parties, I'm still into them,
and I'm not upset that she's three. I'm excited, like
I'm excited to barn her personality for this year.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
You know. Okay, to finish up the episode, we always
want to leave you with at least one good recommendation,
because who doesn't love a wreck. So it's the author
Noel w ill eh Hill. I don't know, we'll link
her in the show notes. She writes horror books, and
(45:21):
I read five when I was in Bali in February five. Wow. Yeah,
I don't know why I was reading horror books while
I was like on a solo trip by myself. That
was probably a little bit silly. But you know, regardless,
if you like horror thriller. But the reason I don't
want to publicly recommend them on Instagram is because some
of them are a little bit ooh why did your
(45:43):
brain go there? Kind of thing?
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Oh okay, do you know what I mean? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I always think that about horror stuff. Though, I'm like,
you have to be a sick person to write anything like.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
True true, but I think it's more so with supernatural.
I don't know. Maybe I just I read a lot
of thriller, but I don't read a lot of horror,
and maybe that's very true.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
It just feels weird that I enjoy reading about that
sort of thing. But there's obviously lots of other people
enjoy reading horror. I enjoyed watching horror as well, so.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
New genre that people just love to be scared shitless.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
Not me anyway, Key resells, you have got a bassinetch. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
I wanted to talk about this because I mentioned earlier
that Suki came out and she immediately I just knew
that she was going to be a clingy baby, that
she was gonna want me a lot. And I never
really heard much about co sleepers when I was pregnant
with Rue. And I think we've got a bit of
a culture when we have our kids that they've been
(46:42):
inside of us for nine ten months, and then it's
like we want them to sleep independently away from us, right,
But it's not actually realistic. We Kelly and I have
talked a lot about the fact that we have co
slept safely in the safe way in which you can
do so.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
I also co slept very unsafely before I educated myself
on it because I had no one to talk to
about it or no one to say hey, exactly.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
And I famously wrote in a girl's chat, who's co sleft?
And no one answered me, and I was like, I'm
the worst mother in the world.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
I'm me And I was like, oh, of course we
all do. Here's some information so you can do.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
It properly exactly.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
So.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
I had heard from a girlfriend of mine about a
co sleeping basin at and I thought when Suki wasn't
vibing the snoop, I also found that my anxiety with her,
for some reason was quite high. I think it was
because my whole brain was consumed by a toddler that
I didn't feel like maybe there was enough room for
me to, like, I don't know, keep my baby safe
(47:39):
or something. I just wanted to see her at all times.
And so I actually reached out to our friends at Aultuto,
who you know, at the start of the year we
did the sponsorship with for their lovely nursing chair that
I'm sitting in now, which is just.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
You have become ash one with that chair.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
If you see me, I'm with the chair. We are one.
And I reached out to our friends all because I
had heard that their close sleeping bacinet, the Cozy Breeze Plus,
was amazing, and I just said to them, hey, guys,
like in the depths of my newborn state, would you
be interested in me trialing this out and seeing if
I like it or not. They were really lovely and
they sent it to me. And I cannot tell you
(48:19):
how good this crow sleeper has been. You can change
it from just a normal bacinet on wheels to one
that rocks. There is an attachment on it that you
kind of put underneath your mattress so that the co
sleeper does not move. There isn't like any way it
can move. And it has a little side that you
unzip that falls down so that you can basically your
(48:40):
baby is level with you, so they can really sleep
next to you, but separately in a bacinet. It's really
good if you want to breastfeed sidelining.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
So the side comes off. I'm having a look at
a photo of it.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
I'm here, Yeah, the side comes off, so it's mesh yeah,
and the side zips down and then your baby you
can just basically move your baby from your boob, you know,
into her back over, Yeah, roll her back over. And
for me, it meant that Suki, I just knew straight
away she could sense me anywhere. So putting her into
a basinet just wasn't working. It was too far away
(49:15):
and it was disturbing her sleep. So being able to
just pass her into the co sleeping bacinet, which is
attached to the bed, was so good. And then I
found that during the day I could wheel that bacinet
into the lound room and have her next to me.
Like That's how I was able to work in the
early days, or even just like watch TV without having
(49:35):
to hold her. The bacinet was really handy for that.
So it's a little bit larger than your average like bassinet,
which is good, so you get a bit more use
out of it. And it's chic. It's a lovely color
that looks good. It looked good in the room. But
I can't recommend it enough. It's just an option to
have that maybe you haven't thought of, because for some
reason people don't want to speak about co sleeping in
(49:55):
ways that they have been able to do that, and
I just think it's the most genius way to be
able to co sleep with your baby, have them next
to you, have them in sight. It was really good
for my anxiety with her. And yeah, we'll put a
link in the show notes.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
And with that we will love you and leave you.
She is. We'll be back next week with a truly
great rant from key Oh where she shares exactly how
she's found life lately navigating a toddler and newborn, so
she will really go into the fresh hell and all
of the feelings that poor Strudle has had. And I
say poor Strudle, but I should say poor Key Yeah, us.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
Or both of us really our last reminder to please
rate and review us wherever you listen, and make sure
that you are subscribed, and share us with a friend.
I think that's the easiest way to get the word
out about the pod. If you love it, share it
with someone else that might love it too. This podcast
was produced by us Key Researls and Kelly McCarran, with
audio production and general awesomeness by Maddie joannau See. And
(50:48):
It's which it is.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
Bye, good to be back.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
Woo
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