Episode 67: Top Dog vs. Karen

Join us on an exciting episode of the Eating Wild Podcast as we catch up on the latest fishing trips and hear about Lu's unexpected eviction from the Georgian Bay trailer park by park manager Karen. Plus, find out what happened to the salmon poachers and how CJ discovered his new love for casting spoons with the Best Fisherman in the MMA for salmon. 

 

Don't miss out on the thrilling adventures of Lou and Antonio as they reel in doubleheader chinook salmon on Lake Ontario with their good friend team Garmin Jason Neglia aka the Salmon Whisperer! 

 

 

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(02:04):
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Speaker 2 (02:09):
Well, folks, welcome back to another beautiful day
and another beautiful episode ofthe Eating Well Podcast.
Smash Muleka here, joined byLouis Top Dog Pereira and
Showtime Christopher JohnsonBoys.
What a beautiful.
I don't know.
Is it fall?
I don't know.
It feels like summer to me, lou, I don't know what to tell you.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
Yeah, it's alright, I guess, oh boy, what's your
problem?
What's your problem, man?
I've had a bad week, man, butyou know what, I'm glad I'm here
.
I'm glad I'm here because it'staken my brain off the week I've
had.
Let me tell you.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
We're here for you, lou.
We can be your therapist whereyou can lean on us.
If you have anything you wantto get off your chest, we're
here.
Man, that's what the Foreskinsdo.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
I guess we're going to open the show with hey Lou.
What's happening, brother?
What's?

Speaker 5 (02:57):
going on.
You guys really want me toshare Because it's a bit
personal.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Well, I mean, when you're in a bad mood, we always
need to hear what's going on.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
I mean Lou's a jerk, right?
Yeah, that's true.
I have a reputation to keep, Iguess.
Well, listen, I don't want thisto go on forever, but I'm going
to keep it as quick as possible.
We have our family trailer at apark out in Victoria Harbor.
I don't know if I should namethe name of the actual park, but

(03:32):
it rhymes with Smark Bridge orsomething Sounds.
Yeah, yeah, right.
And this park has changed overthe years, because when I first
got there, we were allowed toput our boats in the river Right
, and for guys like us, that's abig deal, right.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (03:50):
Well, you can't do that anymore.
Can't do it anymore.
The water levels got so lowthey pulled out the docks and
then they told us in an emailsaying you guys are not allowed
to bring your boats to the park,which is crazy.
And that was over a year ago.
And Lou being Lou, I don'tlisten too.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
well, right, oh no, oh boy, I'm excited.
Is it bad that I'm excited?

Speaker 5 (04:19):
But you know what?
There's a couple other guys inthe park that we don't abuse it.
We just bring our boats there,we launch them at the public
marina and we bring our boatsinto the river for a little bit,
for the day, and we fish.
In the morning come back, youhave a bite to eat at your
campground and you want to goback out.
You don't want to have to pullout your boat again, right,
right.

(04:39):
So the park manager came up tome last weekend and she's like
Lewis.
I told you you're not allowedto have the boat in the river.
This is probably the fifth timethat I've approached you about
this and I was in my trailer.
She knocked on my door in mytrailer.
Okay, I'm in my Mutandi havinga beer and she comes up to me.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Right, what is this?
Sorry, I'm mungicake.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Come on, siege Mutandi man your underwear.
Are you nuts?
You haven't hung around thislong enough, jeez.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
So you're tidy whiteys.
Okay, carry on.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
I was in my little shorts, okay.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Oh boy, they're beautiful.

Speaker 5 (05:16):
I was in my jorts.
And so she comes up to mytrailer and she's giving me shit
.
And I had enough, man.
I'm like listen, moody, I'm nottaking my boat out.
I paid a lot of money to behere and what are you going to
do about it?
She's like well, we're going tohave to kick you out if you

(05:37):
don't follow the rules.
And it was just a bad day.
I had a bad moment.
I'm like you know what?
I don't care.
Write up the papers, send themto me.
Ciao, close the door.
I close the door.
My wife was standing rightthere and she looked at me.
She's like you are an idiot.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Oh, man, I'm laughing my head off because when this
actually happened, Siege, Imight have called Lou right
after it happened.

Speaker 5 (06:01):
It was just I don't know if it was a freak accident
but when I called Lou, youcalled me like 20 minutes later
and I was losing it.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
I was in tears.
I was laughing because I couldpicture Lou in his moots
answering the door.
I said what do you want?
You're going to have to moveyour boats.
Send me the papers and slam inthe door on her face.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
I could actually see the whole thing happen.
I can actually see the wholething happen.
I can see it too, and so thatkind of sounds like a Karen,
first of all.
Second of all, what was so whenyou're in the river?
So there was docks there before, so they pulled out the docks
and then are the cleats stillthere to tie up your boat.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
They've been there for the last three years and
that's what we used to use.
But this year, becausearenstarted oh no, she's pretty uh,
by the book.
She even made the manager, theum, the caretaker of the park,
remove all the hooks, jesus.
So we, we were literally tyingoff to like these posts that

(07:03):
were underneath the docks.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, what is like, what's her issue with it?
Like, I mean, is it blockingthe river?
Like, what is her qualms withit?

Speaker 5 (07:16):
They told me that because there aren't any docks
there for boats, that the parkdoes not have insurance for
boats being up against theirdocks or up against their
property.
Oh my God, and a lot of peopleare pissed.
Now there's probably 15 sea-dosat our resort and everyone's

(07:39):
parked in the water because thepark doesn't own the water.
So just past the beach everyonehas these see-do lifts that
they walk out there themselves.
They park them in there.
Yeah and uh, I've talked to alot of neighbors and everyone's
pretty upset because, look, wepaid a lot of money to be out in
georgian bay, right, yeah, yeahand, and you know what's the

(08:00):
point if you can't enjoy thewater?

Speaker 2 (08:02):
I've been there, siege, just to just to paint a
picture for the listeners.
So where Louis's boat, where heactually comes into the river,
is probably I don't know maybe atwo-minute walk from the river
to his camp, but on the way,louis, obviously, louis being
Louis and his family and Jokaand all the boys, he knows
everybody.
So while you're walking to theriver you're saying, hey,

(08:29):
louisis, what are you going outfor today?
So, like the, the park, thecommunity there is amazing and I
even told hook set I'm likehook set I can see you parking a
trailer right next to luige andyour uncle and manny muskie.
You know the guys siege, wefished with these guys growing
up.
So the community, it's a greatcommunity, but for boaters.
So guys like Tony, your buddy,tony, who I went out, I got the
pleasure of going out with youfishing with If there's no boat

(08:50):
access, I can't even see a guylike that staying in the park.
You know what I mean.
Like, like, what's the point?

Speaker 5 (08:56):
It's the extra money.
It's the extra money that thathe put out last year or the year
before, actually, in paying fora slip, a slip at a different
property.
He's paying like I don't knowif it's $1,000 or $1,200 a year,
just to park his boat, butthere's no power, so charging
batteries is a pain in the ass.
He's got to pull him out of hisboat and it's far.

(09:20):
He's got to hop in his car,take all the skier to the boat.
It's not like you can just walkto your boat anymore, buddy.
That defeats the whole purpose.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
That's crazy man.
These.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Karens.
I mean, it's getting at a handsiege, like even this dock beef
thing, and I know we fished withTaro and we had a couple
experiences ourselves with theseKarens.
But, jesus man, it seems likepeople are just taking things to
another level.
I don't understand that.
River louise yes, okay, youshowed me where the water level
used to be it is.

(09:51):
It's like a three foot fourfeet even difference.
So I get it.
You know the water level.
It's really low.
It's low, but you are not.
You are not endangeringanything at all by being there,
and you still take your boat outof the water when you leave the
park and you park it at the.
So I don't even understand.
Oh, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
It doesn't even make sense.
You're not leaving.
It's not like he's leaving.
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
No.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
When you're done for the weekend.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
When you're done for the weekend, you're not leaving
in the river all week, and youknow.

Speaker 5 (10:21):
I'm paying for storage somewhere else where I
keep my boat when I'm away fromthe park.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Oh man, I think it's time to pack up.
Luis, send you the papers, ciao.

Speaker 5 (10:32):
I got no choice now Smash.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
So all your family is there as well.
So your father has a trailerthere.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
Yeah, this is the bad part, right, my dad is right
next door to me.
He's in the site right nextdoor.
Manny musky is right behind me.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Oh no, and you spent a bit of dough there.
Your place is beautiful.
I'm sure you did a bit ofconcrete around the patio stones
.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
I put in a nice shed.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Portuguese right, it's beautiful.
I'm surprised it's not made outof micro cement.
It's beautiful in there.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
So, other than that, on the gba trip, did you manage
to go fishing?
Were you popping Like, were you?
You know what I did.

Speaker 5 (11:11):
My dad and I and Manny Muskie, we went out and it
was like 34 degrees, it's puresun just blaring down and
nothing was biting until I.
I had enough and I said, let's,let's downsize, let's do a
little finesse, smart, and Istarted throwing the hair jig

(11:33):
and then it was just lights out.
Yeah, I was on fire.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
That's so good to have when they're, when they're
not chasing baits like areaction baits and everything to
have that.
That you know that nice andslow presentation.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
No, that's cool man, at least you pop and I hope and
I hope John's listening my buddyJohn, who got me into the hair
jig, um, he, he got me some fewtechniques, he, he, uh.
He does a couple of basstournaments a year stick young
guy but I learned a lot from him.
But I forgot to mention I don'tknow if I told this to you guys

(12:07):
but when I went out that sameday that moody kick basically
kicked me out of the park so Ihad left my boat out in the
river.
Obviously that's why she cameover.
So my kids and my wife and I,we went out for a little boot
for the afternoon.
Nice packed up a lunch, somedrinks, drinks and a beautiful

(12:27):
island in Georgian Bay calledBeausoleil Island.
You guys got to check this out.
All these yachts they park upagainst Beausoleil Island.
I heard about it.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
It's basically like Atlanta's paradise when you're
down at the marina and all thesebeautiful yachts and boats are
all parked there and it's like acity over there right exactly,
exactly.

Speaker 5 (12:48):
so we, we boot across the lake, we get over there, um
, we do some fishing, we hangout for a bit, uh, have lunch
and I'm like you know what, Ihaven't been this far back
around this bay.
Let let's go check it out.
So I turn around this cornerAgain, another section of a

(13:09):
beautiful calm bay and all theseyachts tied up together and a
beautiful patch of weeds, thesepines are sticking out of the
water and I'm like, okay, I gotShavi's eyes light up, my eyes
light up, and we start throwingchatterbaits and spinnerbaits.
And then, all of a sudden, thisboat starts darting towards us,

(13:30):
oh boy.
And I'm like, oh, that lookslike OPP.
Oh boy, or a ministry boat.
And I'm like, well, you know,I'm here with my kids, I'm not
doing anything wrong, I'm fine.
And then I remember, uh oh,where's my fishing license?
I start sweating.
Oh boy, where's my wallet?

(13:51):
I start sweating.
This guy pulls up hey, how, youdoing Good, are you fishing?
I'm like, yep, any fish in theboat?
Nope, he's like are you sure?
Do I need to check your livewells?
Nope, no, sir, no fish in theboat.
He's like, okay, give me yourfishing license and your boating
license please.
I'm like, okay, and I'm likeyou know what?

(14:15):
I made a huge mistake because Icame out here and I forgot my
wallet in my trailer.
I'm just out in Victoria Harbor, at the bay.
He's like, oh, that's not good.
He's like, well, a lot of guyshave their, their IDs on their
phones.
I'm like, oh, yeah, wait a sec,let me check.

(14:38):
So I'm, of course I've.
How many times we go on ourtrips up North and and.
But right before our trips alot of us do this we take
pictures of all our cards and wekeep it in our phone, because
we won't we're not walking thebush with our wallets, you know
we're not getting on the lakewith our wallets, but at least
we have it.
Well, I haven't done that in awhile, so I can't find the
pictures.
Oh no, and I'm looking throughmy emails.
I'm checking my work email, mypersonal emails.
I don't know why we all havelike four personal emails

(15:00):
anymore, but anyways, I can'tfind it.
And he's looking at me.
He's like buddy, this is takinga long time, but you should
have your stuff with you.
I'm like look man, I'm reallysorry.
You can give me a ticket.
I deserve it, but I'm tellingyou the truth.
I have my ID.
He's like what's your name?
And, as I'm still talking tohim, I finally pull up a receipt

(15:21):
on my phone of the latestlicense.
So he takes the email, he callsit in and he's verifying
everything.
This guy's no joke Comes backfrom his boat and this is don't
forget, all those yachts arethere, right, and they're all

(15:42):
staring at me and here's alittle fishing boat of all these
yachts.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
It's so cliche man.
Okay, sorry, I'm ready to getfired up, but go ahead.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
But of course I proved them right.
Right, pick up the fishermen,because they're always screwing
up.
And here's Top Dog from MeetingWild, still screwing up, right.
So whatever he pulls up my file, he sees that I have my updated
fishing license.
I'm good.
But he's like look man, wedon't have a way to check out
your boater's license.

(16:10):
And I'll be honest with you,I'm a park ranger, I'm not the
opp.
The opp is on this lake today.
So if they catch you, Iguarantee you you will get a
ticket.
I I'm like say no more, I'llpack it up, I'll go straight to
shore, get all the paperwork andmake sure I have everything on

(16:31):
me.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
So he couldn't do anything without.
The OPP is for your boater'slicense.
He was only checking fishinglicense.

Speaker 5 (16:39):
No, he wanted.
He said he could have given mea ticket for not having my
boater's license.
Oh, okay, he could have givenme a ticket for not having the
boater's license and I was okayfor my fishing license because
he was able to find out that Iwas registered.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
CJ.
I don't think I've heard WasLou the jerk coming out.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
Yeah, go ahead, cj.
No, no, no, I already had mymoment with.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Moody, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
What were you saying?
I was gonna say I don't eventhink I remember the last time,
because we've got pulled overall the time on skugog and it's
always the same thing.
You know, check the live walls,checking fishing license, and
you know, they even went as faras this spring with me and dan,
uh, checking our flashlightbattery, like that's how, how it
was.
But nobody has ever asked usfor our boating license.
And I wonder if that is just anOPP thing.

(17:29):
I don't know, but you know Iwould probably say Siege, I'm
the worst out of all of us wherefinding stuff on my phone,
because I never take my walleton the boat, only because I'm
afraid that I'm going to drop itinto the lake, just like my
cell phone half of the time.
So Lou brings up a really goodpoint.
Man for people listening.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah, it's good for our listeners.
And there's another thing thatthey always started asking us
was for the serial number on theboat.
Yeah, you got to pay for that,yeah, yeah.
So it's like you're in Ontariowould be ON, and then the
numbers.
After that we had a guy askingus that to have proof of that

(18:09):
thing, and I'm like, oh, man,it's a separate paper.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
It's a separate paper .
It's called the.
It's the oh God, I can'tremember what it's called, but
it's basically your.
It's like a VIN number for theboat that they want to verify.
Yeah, and you know I don't knowif it's a money grab or what,
but you got to pay for it.
Every single year you get thispaper and you got to show it to
them when they pull you over toverify that ontario number on
the side of your boat, whichwell, you know, maybe we should

(18:33):
just get tattoos of our uh, youknow, our license number and all
that stuff.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
We're out there long enough and just be like, get
them to scan our wrist, you knowwhat I I mean, just get the ink
updated every year.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, that's good.
I shouldn't say that's awesome,but it's good for our listeners
to know.
Lou, and I'm sure your kids areprobably thinking, is dad going
to jail here?
What's happening?

Speaker 5 (18:58):
My wife was so mad at me.
She's like can you believe this?
You, of all people, you don'thave your license.
Oh, no way, oh boy.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Well, I can tell you, boys, man, I know it sounds
like Lou had quite the week, butwe did have a couple highlights
together, Lou and I and Siegeand I Listen, man, it's early
September now, coming close tomid-September should say by the
time people are listening tothis, and the weather pattern

(19:27):
has been crazy and we've beentalking to a lot of people, a
lot of guests and a lot offriends out on the water.
And I got to ask you, lou, whenyou went to Georgian Bay this
past week you mentioned it was30 degrees outside the pattern
for those smallies were youfinding them where you think
you'd find them this time ofyear, or did you feel that
they're in the same spot you?

Speaker 5 (19:49):
Oh they were.
I'll be honest, the big oneswere really shallow water.
I don't know if you and I wentto that spot where a lot of
rocks right on top of the water,man, and it was like one foot
of water.
We hit a couple islands thisweekend and all the large

(20:13):
smallies were off the rocks.
Everything else, five fishbelow five feet of water, even
my Ned Rig spots nothing,nothing, nothing.
Nothing was working.
They were just off.
But I think these largersmallies were sunbathing.
They weren't really hungry, butwhen they see that hair jig it
probably looks like a leech andboom.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Wow, yeah, you know what Hair jigs.
I was talking to a guy becauseI picked up for our listeners
that Lou's into hair jigs somuch he's got a custom Chris
Johnson rod with his name on itcoming hair jig rod and a lot of
guys are saying not just aleech.
A lot of them are saying notjust a leech.
A lot of them saying it kind ofresembles like bugs, like a

(20:56):
little bit of a bug comingthrough the water, and I can't
wait to try it myself.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Well, I'm curious to see what the weather is going to
look like in the next few weeks, because we do have a pretty
big trip coming up that we'regoing to talk about.
We're going to take a shortbreak.
On the other side of this break, folks, we're going to talk
about a little bit of somethingdifferent a first for Mr
Christopher Showtime Johnson andalso probably a first for Louis
Top Dog Pereira, and we'retalking to a totally different
species that these boys havenever been hooked up with, and

(21:30):
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Speaker 2 (23:50):
Welcome back, folks, Welcome back.
I'm joined by Louis TopdogPereira.
Showtime Johnson, Eden WildePodcast.
Last week, folks, it wasamazing because we had a
roundtable.
I don't know if everyone heardlast week's episode of the
Foreskins Hookset's back, TopDog's back.
We had a crazy summer Showtime.

(24:12):
We had a roundtable, and justpaint this picture of the studio
.
You had Moose, Cody Kovacek andthe Four Skins, Cigars, darts.
We were talking, we weregetting fired up.
Who walks in through the door?
Mr Jay Duch, King Zank walks inand we start talking salmon
fishing and Cody came down withhis boat and he came here on a

(24:34):
portion siege.
And you were here to do that wedo.
We recorded the podcast withthe four skins and he came and
he says you know, are we goingfishing or what?
This is like eight o'clock atnight and I'm like, what do you
mean?
Are we going fishing?

Speaker 5 (24:47):
He's like yeah, I was surprised to see a boat on on
the driveway of GCC.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
He just shows up with a boat and listen, man, we went
out, we went out together andwe casted in the dark glowing
spoons and boy, there's a videoof you on Instagram, If anyone
hasn't seen it yet.
I've never heard you even swearlike that in my life.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
But you were pretty mouthy in that way, you were
absolutely shocked.
Okay, first of all, this shouldbe a podcast for all ages but
not with Steve.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
I got carried away.
And when I talked to Cody andhe mentioned he wanted to go for
salmon, and I'm thinking youknow we're going to go out
really deep and we're going to,we're trolling.
I don't you know, going to,we're trolling, I don't you know

(25:41):
what I like trolling, um, um.
But when he said we're going tobe casting in about 10 feet of
water with spoons, I'm like sayless, and uh, I take back to all
of our listeners I've chirpedsalmon for years.
I've, I've, I've never gotten meand me and tone and tone, and
you and you know, we're alwaysbesides Tone, we're always, you
know, muskie, pike, largies,smallies, walters and now even

(26:02):
Crappy.
But yeah, I never apologize.
And my wife, if she's hearingthis now, she's like you're
apologizing to fishermen and notme.
You know that's a long story, adifferent podcast.
But apologizing to fishermenand not me, you know that's a
long story, a different podcast.
But uh, but yeah, man, and uh,we get out there and we're
casting and I thought these guyswere nuts tones, all excited
for me and we put on these, uh,we put on these spoons and these

(26:26):
guys fluid, they're takingflashlights to them and they
look up at me and grinning, saidif it doesn't glow, it doesn't
go.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
I'm like what's happening?

Speaker 1 (26:36):
right now.
Man, I learned that line a fewdays ago.
I never heard that line beforeand I'm like, these guys are
like bamboozling me.
You know what I mean.
It's just like we get ourflashlights out, we get them all
.
And, mind you, I haven't fishedin the dark since I was a kid.
My dad used to take me out onnorthern Ontario lakes and we

(26:56):
would.
We would fish when it's dark,but Lake Ontario is an ocean and
we're fishing eight feet ofwater and I am definitely hooked
, like I mean, when these, asTone calls them, chin dogs, is
that what you call them?

Speaker 2 (27:08):
yeah, man, they're shin dogs, chinooks.
And these shin dogs, these shindogs, remember for the people
listening, these are stagers.
So what that means is and theseshindogs, remember for the
people listening, these arestagers.
So what that means is thesefish are coming in, they're
waiting for the next rain andthey're going to be cruising
through to their, basically totheir deathbeds.
Unfortunately, they're allgoing in, they're going to spawn
, they're going to reproduce andunfortunately, they don't make
their way back to the river.

(27:29):
That's a circle of a life for asalmon.
Um, so we, these stage, yourfish are, are sieged, and again,
this is, this was the, thelearning curve that you got to
to, yes, to basically learn.
Speaking to jay, dutch, and andum, you know cody, who's been
been doing this also for years,is one.
The fish, their jaws and theirand their gums are starting to

(27:52):
reside.
Their mouths are like hard,hard wood.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yeah, what did they call that?
They called it dog mouth orsomething.
Yeah, it was like dog mouth.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
So basically, in you, lesige, you missed all five of
your fish.
You hooked in the five fish,you fought them for about five
minutes before they came off andit's nothing that you did wrong
.
Like Cody and Jay Dukes said,it's just these fish.
When they're staging, they'regoing through, they're pissed
off.
They're not eating your lurebecause they're hungry, they're
eating their lure because,they're aggressive, they're

(28:20):
pissed off, they whatever comes.
It's like bass when they're ontheir beds.
You know you can.
People you see casting in frontof these fish while they're
spawning.
They shouldn't be doing that,but they're not going to smash
your blind because they'rehungry, it's because they're
protecting their nest.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
The fight, the fight was unreal and I finally had a
really good one pinned.
And then what happens?
It gets hooked up on.
What was it?
Tony was a big, it was asailing boat.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
You, they, they anchor down and then they have
the sailboats, they, they, theyuse them for their anchor lines
and basically, when they,they'll tie up when they're
coming into 10 feet of water andthere's not many of them around
, because they've been aroundprobably for who knows how many
years.
So the fact that your fish getshooked up into one of those, it
was like it's like finding apebble on a beach.

(29:06):
It was so rare and, like youknow, cody and especially Jay,
they were so upset that youdidn't get to land that fish.
But I mean, you fought it forquite a while.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
I fought it for so long and just to be on a
spinning reel you know what Imean.
And hearing that drag go, I getsalmon.
And I never knew, like I don't.
I didn't know that they'regoing to die.
I didn't know that they'regoing their purpose.
We're used to fishing fish thatyou know.
They die from old age, they diefrom, you know, other fish or

(29:36):
something like that.
The fact that they're onlyaround like three, four years
and they're going to it boggledmy mind, and I was.
I had so much fun, I had somuch.
I may have swore a little bittoo much.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
We fast forward a couple of days and I get a call
from Jay and he's like a new potof fish just came in.
I'm like what are you talkingabout?
Because we went a week ago.
And he's like a new pot of fishcome in.
We're going to go troll.
He's like these fish are comingin.
So again, we had about 10,000fish go over the ladder that's

(30:07):
been counted at Bowmanville.
So imagine what poor credit andBronte and all these rivers
that are probably bigger riversystems than Bowmanville.
And Jay's like call Hookset,call Top Dog, get him over here,
we're going to go for a couplehours.
Call up Hookset, he was busy.
He's like I can't make it justlike that.
Call Lou.
He's like see you in nineminutes, and I'm not even

(30:29):
kidding you, nine minutes.
This guy lives away from thelaunch at Lakefront Promenade.
Lou shows up and basically wejump on the SS dutch, we
literally Siege, we come out ofthe marina and it wasn't even
more of a two-minute boat ride.
We're in 60 feet of water.
And again, this was new forLuis.
Again, trolling for me isn'tthe thing.

(30:51):
I'm more getting them in therivers with my, my center pin
reel.
So again, new for me as well.
I've done it before, but notconsistently enough to say that
I I know what I'm doing outthere, cause, frankly, Lou will
tell you, I don't even know howto net a fish out in that
fucking in the.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
There's another story .

Speaker 3 (31:06):
Oh, Jesus Christ, do Well.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
I'll tell you what happened.
We get out to six feet of water.
Jay Duce brings out his.
He calls it cardina.
If anyone knows your European,cardina means meat.
He makes his own meat rigs,okay.
So he's got these herringstrips that he cures himself,
ties them up, marinates,marinates them he's got.
He drops these down on theScotty and I'm I don't know,
within 15 minutes or so,doubleheader, boom, boom mean

(31:30):
low fish, fish we were poppingand lose fish.
You can tell was a monsterbecause it was like he fought it
for a good 15, 20 minutes andit was peeling, it was peeling,
it was peeling.

Speaker 5 (31:42):
It felt like we were fishing back in Florida.
Exactly it felt like to me.
We're in t-shirts and and thedrag is just going.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Just popping oh, it was popping, it was awesome.
And he brings in this male.
So the female I brought in,let's say it was maybe 10 or 15
pounds.
His male was in the 20s forsure, and the fish are dark.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
These are staging fish.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
They look gnarly, I noticed they smell really bad
too they stink their gums arereciting you see their teeth
look like their barracudas, youknow, because salmon got some
chompers, man, they're dogs,yeah.
So you know they're not thebest looking fish, but man, they
put up a fight because, yeah,they're pissed off, man, they're
ready to go.
So we got a call from, we got atext from Jay today, lewis and

(32:37):
I hey, another bunch of fish iscoming in.
So what's happening in again?
I'm not a marine biologist butI'm thinking this weather
pattern Again we haven't seenrain.
In what?
Two weeks, three weeks, wehaven't seen rain.
But when we did have rain, itwas insane.
We had 50, I think it was like50 millimeters in like two hours
.
At one point People were havingfloods and this and that.
So I'm thinking the wholesystem is all screwed up,
because 10,000 fish have alreadygone through Bowmanville,
probably double that goingthrough Credit River.
And you know, bronte, we'repopping siege.

(32:59):
That night we were casting.
Everywhere you look, there wasfish rolling everywhere Splash,
splash, splash.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Cody landed a nice one, it was a hen right.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Tone yeah, he got a nice hen.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Yeah, probably about 15, 20 pounds at least, and then
Jay had a good one on and itcleared water.
I lost two.
I lost two.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
They were everywhere.
And then you know, lewis and Iwere going out.
Jay has the panoptics.
Holy smokes, there was puddlesand puddles of fish.
We were traveling and everyminute you would look and there
was fish coming in on thispanoptics it was crazy.

Speaker 5 (33:28):
Jay knows his electronics.
I mean, there's a reason whyGarmin has him sponsored, right,
like this guy knows how to usehis machines.
And he was showing us how, whenthe fish come through the
screen, like what it means fromthe bow to the stern and the
depth and everything from thespeed, temperature, depth and

(33:53):
presentation.
Oh, this guy's got it lockeddown like a scientist.
He's a scientist.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
He had that little thing that looked like a probe
that he would hook up to hisrigger.

Speaker 5 (34:04):
That actually gave you real temperature down below
the way your ball is actuallycruising, because our
transducers are up so high onour boats right, and he's
fishing 50 feet down, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 feet down and that
temperature down there is goingto be different than the
temperature up here.
Yeah, so he's dialed it in somuch that he needs to know what

(34:27):
that temperature and water speedis down there, not up high.
Not up high Because it'sdifferent.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
And Siege we're talking tournament fishing Like
Jay and those boys him and hisbuddy Anthony and his brother
Brian.
Those guys like the stories hewas telling us from raccoons
taking over his boat anddamaging his electronic.

Speaker 5 (34:45):
Oh, that was hilarious man.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
You should hear it.
Like we got to get Jay on,because that's a pod in itself.
We'll let him share that story.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
I want to hear the net story.
I'm curious about the net story.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Another doubleheader goes off and Jay was controlling
the boat at one point becauseme and Luis were fighting the
fish.
You know Jay's like, hey, youguys, you wanted us to catch the
fish and I ended up losing myfish.
Luis is still hooked up, soJay's on the wheel.
I said, don't worry, I'm goingto net the fish, so I bring the
net over to Lou.

(35:17):
And you got to remember onething that Jay does, that nobody
else does when they're fishingand this is his own technique is
he runs an eight foot lead.
So because he has an eight footlead, by the time your line
comes up and Jay will tell youhe's the only guy that does this
, because most people don't likerunning these leagues.

Speaker 5 (35:36):
They think he's crazy .
I don't know if this segment isgoing to be cut out.
No, no, no.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Jay is the one that told me that people think he's
crazy.
He tells everybody what he doesand they think he's crazy.
No, no, and listen if Jay, ifwe have a problem with this,
I'll ask Jay we cut it out.

Speaker 5 (35:52):
We'll ask him before.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
I remember him telling me that he runs an
eight-foot lead duringtournaments because he's a
scientist.
The guy's a mad scientist.
People think he's crazy Evenwith his meat rigs, Luigi, like
people think he's crazy in theway he runs these rigs.

Speaker 5 (36:06):
Do you remember why he runs an eight-foot lead, do
you I?

Speaker 2 (36:09):
think it was the circular.

Speaker 5 (36:11):
There was a circular motion so that bait will roll
slower.
The further it is from the line, the further the lead is that
bait will turn much slower thanif it's tight, and he also
mentioned Simon Berth, rememberhe mentioned that's a Simon
thing as well.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Simon runs these massive leads when he's fishing
Walters that nobody else usuallydoes, and it's because of the
presentation of that bait whileit's cruising.
So picture this Luis has thisfish on.
He's already.

Speaker 5 (36:41):
I got tired of Sorry to interrupt.
Tony, I got tired of fightingthat fish.
I got noodle arms and Icouldn't do this for 20 minutes
again.
I was tired.
I go, jay, you haven't felt therod all day, all night here
take this.
So he's fighting the fish, he'sbringing it in, and then Tone
grabs the net and Jay's got thiscool setup that I've never seen

(37:04):
before, where he has this clipon I don't even see.
This is terrible, because Idon't know what it's called.
What's the clip the.
Dipsy, it was on the Dipsy, theDipsy clip, right, it's what
ties your fishing line to thewhat the cannonball?
Yeah, right, yeah, basically,yeah, okay.

(37:26):
So he's got that on his net.
So that way the mesh will getsnagged onto the pole with that
clip, so that when you'rereaching out overboard, that
mesh is not going to touchanything on your boat.
Oh man, it's not going to getsnagged with the motor, it's not
going to get snagged withanything else.
It's nice and tight to the poleas you're putting it in the

(37:48):
water.
And then what happens is, oncethe fish gets into that mesh,
the weight of the fish justpulls it off the clip.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
It's a really smart device.
How many times I'll let youfinish your story, but how many
times when we're musky fishing?
And a lot of times you'll holdthe bag, the mesh part, in your
left hand, and you'll havethat's what we've all been
trained to do, right.
And then and then with a mesh,especially with a musky net, you
get it hooked up on like boatcleats on the side and all that

(38:17):
stuff.
That's really smart, man.
That is really smart, yeah.

Speaker 5 (38:21):
So he's got this cool setup and Tone grabs the net.
Oh boy, and Tone didn'tremember what.
I guess he just didn't realizewhat that was for.
He's like oh, why is this meshlike hooked up on the pole here?
So he just, you know, he rippedthe mesh off the pole because
it's got to be loose to catchthe fish.

(38:41):
Of course, man it makes senseright.
It makes sense.
So Jay's pulling in this fish.
Yeah, long lead, right.
So he's got to go all the wayto the back of the boat.
Super long lead.
Jay's chirping him already.
He's like Tone, watch thecorner of the boat, the net's
going to get hooked up.
And Tone's like don't worryabout it, man, I got it.
Watch the bikes.
All right, I got it.

(39:02):
Tone goes in for the dip.
Doesn't the rim of the net getthe hook Stuck in the face of
the fish?
So right now there's a fish,there's a salmon, a beautiful,
huge salmon, hooked onto thebait and the bait's hooked onto
the rim of the net and the fish.

(39:23):
It's impossible to get in thenet.
Jay's losing his mind.
I'm laughing my ass off, I'mjust glad it wasn't a tournament
.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
I'm just glad it wasn't a tournament, because Jay
would have killed me.

Speaker 5 (39:33):
Best part was like don't worry, man, I'll just lift
it.
Oh, he lifted it lifted.
He's about to heave it in.
Jay starts.
He's like you're gonna breakeverything, man, no, don't I was
excited, man.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
The fish was just dangling there.
But I will tell you this, I'mgonna tell you this right now
that was having that super longlead.
That fish was literally goingunderneath the boat siege.
Literally it was coming in andjay was like you got to keep the
head up, keep the head up, keepthat up.
Anyways, lew came, grabbed thenet out of my hands, did a
little bit of maneuvering andnext thing, you know, it was

(40:06):
landed beautifully.
We got a picture and away we go.
But I just got to defend myselfhere for a second.

Speaker 5 (40:12):
Hold on.
No, no, you know what?
No one's judging you man, I'mnot judging you because I had no
idea what that was until afterthat.
I had no idea, man.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
I looked at it.
I'm like what's this clip doinghere?
We'll take this off.
Perfect, and little did I knowthat.
I thought that was just astoring mechanism Maybe you know
Jay's very clean in his boatand this and that.
So I'm like what's that?
We don't need this.
Take that off.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Next thing, you know, that's part of the rig and
there's nothing worse than Iwent to net a muskie for Lou and
it's not a big.
It wasn't a big muskie, but thesame thing.
It was on LSC and I dipped thenet.
I dipped the net, I see him,and it was well.
First of all it was chocolatemilk, so you couldn't really see
the fish.
And then I took a stab at it.
I went to get it and next thingyou know, same thing, tone.
Next thing, you know, samething, tone the back treble hook
of his Shadzilla got on the rimof the net and it wouldn't get

(41:04):
in.
So I hand-bombed it.
I hand-bombed it and I broughtit in like it was a large G.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
I lost a 50-inch muskie for you.
Remember that story.
That was the hardest thing I'veever done in my life.
You know, being a net man islisten man being a net man is a
stressful job for Smash right itis, man it is.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
I'd rather be on the rod end than the net man,
because we all have had thosestories and I'm sure our
listeners.

Speaker 5 (41:29):
It's not as bad as Andrew Singh is throwing the
cradle in the lake.
Yeah, that's a good story too.
So, you landed that fish.
I still can't get over that,but anyway, yeah, you landed
that fish.
I still can't get over that,but anyway, yeah, if you guys
want to hear about that, checkout one of our previous podcasts
.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Oh, what a story.
That's when Lou's tantrum wasat its peak.
I think that's the time that,if anybody was on the boat with
that moment, get out of the way,because I'll tell you right now
somebody's swimming, 100% yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
He sat at the back of the boat for a while yeah, well
, buddy, you brought a guy outwearing designer jeans on the
fishing boat.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
So like I mean designer jeans and uh, well,
listen, siege, I'm glad youbrought that up, because jay and
jay and lou came up with a namefor people like that.
So we were talking, we weretalking and jay was talking
about his tournament fishing,and you know it's about bringing
on guys into the boat fortournaments, right?

(42:27):
That just want to come in forthe sake of I got nothing to do.
I'll go fishing with these guys.
How hard could it be?
What do you call those guys?
Lou, lou, you guys had a namefor it.
I was dying.
We were going to make t-shirts.
You said, what was it?
You you remember?
Do you remember the name?
I don't remember.
That's why I'm asking you.
We're going to have to ask Jay,but there's a name, so there's
a name for these.

(42:48):
I don't know if they'restragglers or whatever it is.

Speaker 5 (42:54):
But there's a.
All I remember is when we needto put this on hats and shirts.
I'm going to get this.
I'm going to text Jay right now?

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Oh, we got to text, jay.

Speaker 5 (43:02):
So we'll get back to that later.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Oh, buddy, but listen .

Speaker 1 (43:05):
We need that.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
I got to tell you guys something, man, now that
we're on the topic of salmon,and you know people that are
fishermen, people that are intothe outdoors, I am almost
positive.
They came across a certainsocial media post that has been
up in the airwaves and siege.
I am teched because this issomething I've wanted to talk

(43:28):
about for years and years and Igot a platform now and I would
love to hear your guys' opinionon this.
But listen, there's somethinggoing around on social media
right now.
I grew up river fishing.
This is what made me, this wasthe hook.
This was what got me hookedinto fishing.
And you say the tug is the drug, right?

(43:51):
My first fish I ever caught bymyself with a center pin reel,
was incredible, and I pay for mylicense every year.
I helped out with the CreditRiver Angling Association for
years, bringing fish up to theladder, helping with the
reproduction of salmon.
A lot of rainbow trout comethrough our systems as well.
They're programmed differently,but I really, really respected

(44:13):
and fell in love with riverfishing.
What's happening out there andthere are a lot of social media
posts going around are peopleare taking advantage of these
thousands and thousands ofsalmon that are coming up
through these rivers and they'renetting them.
They're netting them just totake them home for for food.
And it's bothering me becausethis has not just happened now.

(44:35):
I think social media is um now.
It gives people a platform tosay, hey, look, look what these
people are doing because ofSiege and Lou.
This has been around for years.
It's been around since I was akid.
I've seen people poaching fishout of the Credit River ever
since I was 16 years old andit's bothering me now more than

(44:57):
ever.
And there's been this postthat's been shared.
People in our industry, siegethey've been sharing it with us
on our yeah, tell them a littlebit what's going on on the post.
So basically, it's a family,immigrants and they're here and
listen, these people might noteven know the rules, siege, it's
just you know, who knows whatthe situation is, but they're on
the river, river, and they'reliterally scooping fish with a

(45:19):
massive musky net or whatevernet they're using, and they're
literally putting them onto theshore and putting them in black
garbage bags.
There's a fellow who took thevideo and he says excuse me, you
know that this is illegal, youshouldn't be doing this.
And they literally looked athim and just ignored him.
Don't care, and they just keptgoing about their business.

(45:40):
And it doesn't go further thanthat.
It's been shared across socialmedia for people obviously
fishermen and outdoor people andit made me sick to my stomach
because all these years thatI've been witnessing this and
listen, man, we're anglers, wepay for our fishing license
every single year.
We respect, we catch, werelease.

(46:00):
If we're going to consume, it'sin the slot or we get our
numbers.
And this has to stop.
Man and Siege, you're the onethat told me that these people
you followed up might have beencaught.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Yeah, they ended up catching them.
So a lot of people called it in.
And if anyone sees anythinglike this, there is a Ministry
of Natural Resources, there's atip line and it's 1-877-847-7667
.
And luckily, this gentlemanreported it and these guys and

(46:35):
girls they're facing federal andprovincial charges are laid
against them and then when Ilooked it up in September,
following year 2023, a lot ofpeople were spearing them as
well.
Yeah, yeah, so there wascharges.
So this is I'm new to this wholesalmon thing and I didn't know

(46:56):
this was happening and it reallydisrupts the fishing or the
population of the salmon.
I didn't know any of this, butyeah, um, every year there's
tons of charges being laid in,but these guys didn't really
care.
And then you know, they put ingarbage bags and I don't know if
they're playing dumb tone, like, like, but like I mean saying

(47:16):
they don't have to have licensesand all that stuff.
But yeah, so they're facingsome some, uh some, fines.
They didn't have to havelicenses and all that stuff, but
yeah, so they're facing somefines.
They didn't get into exactlythe amount, but who knows, man,
but I would just call that tipline, as much as people say
you're being a Karen calling ita tip line.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
You got to do it, you got to do it.

Speaker 5 (47:36):
You got to report those nuns.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
That's what they are, nuns, that's what the word is
siege.
By the way, jay, do nuns.
The nuns don't bring any nunson my boat.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
So what do you mean like non, not nuns?

Speaker 5 (47:47):
right, non, non, like n-o-n, so that you're said
they're not non-angler, is that?

Speaker 2 (47:53):
what bring any of these nuns on my boat?
They're not fishermen, they'renon-anglers.

Speaker 5 (47:57):
They're, they're, they're people trying to come
out for, uh, a little hurrah andsay they're, they're fishing,
but they don't really care, they, they're probably trying to go
out for the boys before they get.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
You gotta get a picture of andrew singus on a
t-shirt and just wrote nunsright on the top of that the
nuns.
So they're.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
They're like the instagram guys, where you know
they'll.
They just want that picture andthen they're good, right,
they'll put it on their Tinderprofile.
Oh man, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (48:28):
Not one fish.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
I'm going to tell you something, siege, just going
back on this whole tip linestuff.
We witnessed this with Muskieas well, and this goes back
years.
You guys all remember the wordshit fish.
We all talk shit fish.
We say it all the time.
Because going back to when wesaw that video footage of that
guy out in the was it detroitriver back in the day taking a

(48:50):
baseball bat to a beautifulmuskie's face, you remember that
?

Speaker 1 (48:53):
well, it was a walleye fisherman and his excuse
was, um, that the muskie eathis walleye and their shit fish
and he wants to eliminate them.
And then that guy reported it.
This guy had to move out ofthat town because he got jerks
so much and he lost his fishinglicense for I don't know how

(49:15):
many years, but he was gettingdeath threats.
But, man, he was very verbal ofhis hate and and all that stuff
.
So us as anglers, yeah, take apicture of this stuff, man, like
I mean in a video, and reportit, because this is our future.
This is like you know, this iswhat we're really.
You know our kids can becatching these fish and in the

(49:37):
future.
So, as much as you don't wantto be a rat, there comes a time
when you have to be right.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Yeah, I agree, man, and listen, hunting has got to
be in the same sort ofconversation, because there's
probably a lot of crap thathappens out there that we don't
see.
And listen, the game wardencan't be in every bush across
Ontario, but I will tell youthis hunting they are very and

(50:04):
this is just from stories that Ihear.
There's a story of Hookset'sneighbor when they went moose
hunting they actually showed upat his house, you know, just to
verify the catch Like they takeit very, very seriously.
And if you see something or youhear of people that aren't
doing it properly, listen, man,we all pay our dough.
We took our courses.
We respect the animals, werespect the base.

(50:25):
We love what we do.
If somebody is going to be, youknow, doing something that's
going to misrepresent us, well,listen, I'm going to be a Karen.
I don't care, I'm going to takethe picture, I'm going to
report.

Speaker 5 (50:42):
I might punch him in the face.
I don know figure it out.

Speaker 4 (50:43):
Yeah, yeah, you heard it.
Man, that's right, I mightpunch you in the face, man.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
If I was on that river, I wouldn't have pulled
out my camera.
I would have started a fight.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Don't care oh boy, tony dukes oh man.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
Well, listen, man, we gotta.
We got some stuff to talk about, um.
You know, just just to cleaningup siege, social media has been
popping obviously.
We had cory uh johnson on umnot too long ago.
We had a great response, greatstory.
I know the?
Uh, the tournament rules arechanging soon in the elite world
.
We're gonna hopefully have acouple guests on to chat about

(51:11):
that.
But uh, edub, what's happening?
What's coming up?
Siege?
I know it's the fall.
We got a big tournament comingup as well, future guests coming
on to talk about it.
Uh, ed-dub, what's cracking?

Speaker 1 (51:22):
So E-Dub right now.
We're going to be doing agiveaway coming up soon.
It's going to be Instagram only.
It's going to be with KakushinKnives, and so we're going to
wait for some news on that.
We're going to pair up.
We're going to have an EchoFilet giveaway with a chef's
knife, and we got the muskybrawl coming up.
We're one of the top sponsorson that.

(51:44):
So Antonio Maleca will behanding out food to all the
anglers, and Luis Topdod Pereira, when Antonio's handing him the
food, he's probably going tosteal your Shadzillas when
you're not looking.
Okay, short Ninja Lou, yep,short Ninja Lou.
And other than that, we have alot of trips coming up and a lot

(52:05):
of food to be eaten.
So a lot of people, ourlisteners.
We haven't forgot about food.
We are eating wild and we havesome good recipes coming up.
I have lined up with Antoniosome really good chefs coming up
.

Speaker 5 (52:20):
Sorry to interrupt, but we haven't done a recipe on
the show in a long time, man, noyeah, we have big news with
that, lou, and I'm glad youbrought that up.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
Uh, we are very, very close into teaming up with a.
A lot of people been asking usSiege, where do you guys get
your meat?
Where do you get your game meat?
Where do you get, where do youbuy?
And we've been mentioning thebutcher shop for a long time.
We are very close to havingsomething, lou, concrete with
the butcher shop and we aregoing to be featuring a new cut

(52:49):
of meat weekly and the recipeswill be coming in.
So you're going to have, listen, we haven't done a recipe.
We also haven't done a pairingin probably over a month.
So, I'm going to put you to thetest very shortly, my friend,
because, siege, we don't evenknow what cuts they're going to
throw at us.
It could be anything from aJapanese Wagyu steak to bison

(53:11):
ribs, short ribs or elk burgers,or it could be just a New York
strip loin steak aged 60 days.
So we had a really goodconversation with them a few
days ago and, lou, we're veryclose to locking that down and
I'm going to tell you this rightnow.
They're going to.
They're going to throw it at uspretty hard.
So, for our listeners, I hopeyou like the meat because we're
going to have new recipes andwine pairings, booze pairings

(53:33):
very shortly.
Could be as soon as next week,next episode.
So, yeah, look out for that.
One more thing before we go wedo.
You mentioned we have a huntingtrip coming up.
Luis, you went and purchasedsome ammo Again, ammo.
Right now, it's still hard tofind certain types of ammo, but
are you all ready to go?

(53:54):
Are you all locked up?

Speaker 5 (53:56):
Honey, last week I took my gun apart.
I put a towel on my coffeetable Love it.
I think Monica was watching theBachelor.
She's like you want to watchthis with me?
I'm like, yeah, yeah, so shedidn't enjoy hearing the chamber
every now and then, but it wasgreat.
Man, I just took everythingapart.

(54:17):
I haven't done that in a year.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
So cleaned it all out , lubed it all up and I'm
excited, I'm pumped man andthat's so cool that you took it
apart, because now you know ifsomething goes wrong in the
field.
You know how to take apart thatgun and I tell any of our
listeners, or any of that stufflike, take apart your gun.

(54:41):
There's so many videos onYouTube.
If you put the type of gun youown, there's so many videos with
the breakdown and all that, themore you know your gun and if
you have problems you can fix itin two seconds and you know
what.

Speaker 5 (54:54):
There's a couple of tools that I need to pack with
me on our trip in case somethinggoes wrong with my gun.
Yes, because, because if I'm,if we're at the hunt camp and I
don't have a little tiny punch,I can't pull that trigger out.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
If I don't have pliers, I can't pull that casing
out.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
That's awesome.
You know about the punch withthe trigger, so I really know
you're taking apart your gunbecause that can be a little
little, that can be a little uhtricky to do.
The triggers a lot of peopledon't.
They skip that part and so no,that's cool yeah, I'm excited
one thing.

Speaker 5 (55:29):
One thing I'm excited to to do tone with with all of
us is to um, shit, I forget theterm when we cite, cite out guns
.
Oh yes, the pattern.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
Pattern your shotgun.

Speaker 5 (55:42):
Pattern the shotgun right.
So we're going to bring up somepaper, we're going to put some
bullseyes up there and we'regoing to see how each of our
guns shoot, and I think that'sgoing to be really cool to see
how we're all doing.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Yeah, and for the people listening to Eating Wild
podcast listen, we're weekendwarriors when it comes to
hunting and fishing.
So all the stuff that you'rehearing is all stuff that we're
learning and bringing you alongwith us, because we're not pros
by any means.
But I'll tell you, I purchasedprobably something this year
that I cannot wait to use.
We talked about it on previouspodcasts Siege of Benelli the

(56:17):
Cardoba.
It's called the Best B-E-S-T.
I can't wait to get that in myhands and pattern it as well.
And another question I had foryou, siege, before we wrap this
up I know you're a super BlackEagle guy.
You were talking to me like youwanted to buy this gun for
yourself.
For a guy that's been shootinga super Black Eagle 3, okay,

(56:41):
what makes you think that youneed to change shotguns?
I got to ask you that.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
I have no reason to change shotguns.
This Super Black Eagle 3 willoutlive me.
You always get caught.
You want stuff you know fishingrods, fishing lures, all that
stuff but you don't have to havea Benelli.
You can get any reasonablesemi-auto that are out there.

(57:08):
And what Lou was talking aboutpatterning guns that is the most
important thing to do, becauseall guns shoot differently and
if you're using different chokesand if you're using different
ammo, you got to see what shootsbest for you.
So when you paper a shotgun,you really see your spread and

(57:29):
all that stuff.
And that's something like yousaid, tone, we're weekend
warriors, but you really have todo that.
All these guns come with shimkit.
There's a reason, becauseeveryone's different, so it can
drop a little bit lower, drop alittle bit higher.
But I tell everyone you got todo these steps because you could
be missing out what that guncan do for you.

(57:51):
If you take these steps and goon YouTube, it'll help you.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
All right.
Well, those are all great tips.
Boys Appreciate it, lookingforward to it.
We do have a couple of greatepisodes coming up next week,
some featured guests that we'regoing to talk to Getting you
ready for the hunting season,big fish season.
We got tournament season comingup in November.
I'm just excited, boys, andjust to see Lewis's face again
makes me very happy and it makesme smile.

(58:16):
And listen, he's nuts.
You got to admit the guy's nutsand and I feel sorry for that,
karen, but you know what, whenhe's on the edub podcast, we
love him and look at thatbeautiful smile listen, if
there's any parks out there thatuh have a nice little boat
launch.

Speaker 5 (58:33):
You know, got a trailer, nice trailer.
We're a nice family.
I'd do a nice barbecue.
There you go, george and Bay,call me up.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Call them up.
Eating well podcast.
Listen boys.
I want to take time say thankyou for joining me and everyone
listening.
Thanks for taking the time onyour commute to work or whether
you're cutting the grass oryou're having a shower.
This is a smash.
Maleka, checking out of youreating well.
Podcast for top dog prayer.
I show time Johnson Eden Wild.

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Get that beautiful tune started.
We're out of here.
Ciao, get the net, don't be anonce.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
We've got the stars lined up and they're coming out
ready to play.
We'll be right back.