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Welcome back to another episodeof eating wild podcast, smash
malecka coming to you live fromthe studio today in guest studio
again.
Folks, I don't know what'sgoing on here.
The Eating Wild podcast studiohas turned into a shop where you
could come hang out, have adrink, have a dart, and you know
(02:19):
it's always a good time whenyou're here sitting down with
the E-Dub boys.
So I got in-house specialguests today.
I'm pleased to welcome my goodfriend.
We become friends and we comelike oh, we're going to be
fishing partners soon.
Oh, for sure, for sure, we gotMr Tim.
Tim is I got to get your titleright because you have so like
(02:39):
I'm just reading the script here, you have so many different
titles.
Brother, if, somewhere, if youhad to give yourself a title,
okay, somebody says give me thetitle for yourself, what would
it be?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I just have to say
guy's guy guy's guy.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, like so, tim's
the guy's guy.
How about entrepreneur?
How about fisherman, riverfisherman?
How about popper?
Like what's going on?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
it's been everything
right, it's like.
And then the best is when youtake that passion and you merge
it in with your work, in yourday-to-day life.
And any excuse to get on thewater, do something outdoors
well, listen, tim, it's uh, it'samazing.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
We we actually met.
The eating wild team met timover a year ago at the toronto
sportsman show and I wasintroduced to you, um, by the
fishing canada guys with youknow, ang Viola, and you've been
doing a business with FishingCanada for a while, before we
even met and before this wholepodcast network was created.
And we're talking, of course,about the company that you are a
(03:36):
part of, it's ownership as well, ownership as well, and that's
Campus Crew.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, family business
.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Family business and
you've been creating swag for F
in Canada for how many years now?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yeah, a few years now
.
So it all started at theSportsman Show.
Crazy Approached Ange and Peteand hooked them up with some
hoodies, said come check out thebooth.
And one thing led to another,and now I'm working with them,
getting all their merch online,and then got the opportunity to
meet you.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yeah, them getting
all their merch online and and
then got the opportunity to meetyou, yeah, and the boys, we, uh
, we came down to your booth andthen we were just blown away
because you know us going up tobear creek cottages for years
and I noticed the similarity insome of the shirts you were
showing us and I'm like, wait asecond, do you do bear creek
cottages as well?
And you're like, yeah, that'syou work with tara.
Yeah and uh, your stuff is allover the place and it's amazing
(04:27):
what you do.
But listen, I'm excited thatwe're working together and the
swag is coming.
We got beautiful swag we'regoing to talk about.
But let's talk about you,brother, because you have the
most interesting story.
I was reading more about you onsome of the notes and fishing.
You're a stick bro and you alsoare co-host of a tournament
(04:54):
that you do every year.
You're also the co-host of atournament that you guys have
been doing for how many yearsnow?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah, we're on year
five now.
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
This is the Blue Lime
Tournament correct.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
So it's my Uncle,
sean Dawson, and then me running
this.
It's his company's Blue LimeTechnical Services, right, so he
sponsors it.
Campus Crew.
We're starting to sponsor itnow and, you know, to start off
it's just let's start doingsomething.
You know there's a few of usand then it's starting to grow.
We've had some nice guests inthere.
We've had Chris King, daveChong, mike Reed Muskoka, mike
(05:34):
he's one of the leads whoorganizing boats and guys coming
in and out.
Yeah, the one we just did.
So it was a spring classic andthen a fall classic.
Right, I just had the pleasureof fishing with Mark Rich, mark
Rich, nipsey and Stick, yeah,and we were on Lake of Bays for
the fall one, okay, and camefirst in that, which was nice.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah, you were
mentioning.
I remember you invited me tothis tournament and I was
actually gutted because we wereso busy in June.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
And it's invitation
only, it's not like anybody from
the public can join thistournament, correct?
Yeah, we're keeping it small tostart invitation and then just
slowly building it out.
And it's bass, correct?
Yeah, always bass, bass.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
And so you came first
place this year.
Who were you fishing with?
Was it with Mark Rich?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah, me and Mark
were in the boat together.
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
What a team.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Oh yeah.
So you know, pitching liliesdocks, and we didn't even.
We're going from dock to dockand there's this little lily
patch, right eight lily pads youcould almost see under the
(06:39):
whole thing, and mark's like whynot just whips a senko at it.
I don't know where the thingwas hiding, but a five and a
half, oh my.
God Bang and we rip that in.
I get it in the bag and we lookat each other.
We're like I think that's it.
Holy smokes we won it with a15-12 bag, so small bag like.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Small bag like but 15
pounds.
I mean that's pretty decentespecially.
I guess time of year makes abit of a difference as well.
I could only imagine what lakewas that on?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
It was Lake of Bays.
Lake of Bays.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Okay, well, there are
pigs in Lake of Bays from what
I hear, but you know, the factthat you pulled out a 15-pound
bag is pretty decent attorney.
So you guys do this tournamentevery year.
Now you also said that it's notjust about the fishing, it's
the whole.
You know, the night it's like,it's almost like a party it's a
three-day event, yeah, threedays.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
So it's all best
friends, family and, like my
uncles, brothers in there, getmy old man to come down here and
there, and uh, yeah, so youknow, john will rent a place,
put us up for he'll have it forlike a week and guys come up as
early as they can.
We get some fishing in and lotsof drinking, good eating and
then the day of the tourney weget it catered.
So you know, you wake up,everybody's on the water.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Um, you come back and
we got cold beers on the dock,
we got a server, food's ready torock and it's a wicked event
imagine having a tournament likethat, where you just show up,
you got a chef, you got the icecold beers, buddy, you just need
like luke bryan there literallyliterally, you got to be at a
party of parties happening.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
We actually had a
country singer, one of the guys
in the tourney.
Uh, he's friends with, uh, mikereed.
Mike reed and uh, he broughthim in, he was in the tourney
and then he was playing with theguitar right on the dock for us
.
So we're eating, had some beersand just finished the vibe for
sure.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
That's great.
And listen, you mentioned DaveChong.
If you can finish first in anytournament that Dave Chong is a
part of, that's special.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
I would take kudos to
that, but Dave wasn't in this
one.
Oh damn it.
Yeah, you could at least lie, Iknow.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I can't lie.
Well listen, chris King, also astick.
Oh yeah, I know, chris, he'sbeen.
He fished a few tournamentsthis year.
I think he was in the what wasthe one he was?
Just, I think he was in.
If I'm not corrected, stand me,for if I'm not corrected, it
was the Tim for raw fish.
He had a tournament and I thinkChris King was in that one as
well Georgian Bay Classic.
(09:01):
And you know he's still workingwith NHLPA.
We got to meet him as well atthe Sportsman Show and he's
still doing a lot of work there.
And, buddy, he's a stick.
He's always on the water andit's not just bass he fishes.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
He fishes everything.
He's a big musky guy too, musky, right.
Yeah, me and him are alwayssharing stories when we're
together and I know he's got tobe in the war room, all that.
And we were rooting.
We were rooting for not a gameseven, because if it ended at
game six he was going to makethe spring tourney and then if
it went to game seven he wasn'tgoing to make it.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
So unfortunately it
went seven and he couldn't make
that one and it was a good game,though we got to admit watching
watching Florida win thatStanley Cup was kind of well.
You know, we're Canadian, youalways were.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
We always were a
Canadian team.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
But good for the
sport.
For a team like Florida to winthe Cup, I would say that's
Canadian boys on the team.
Yeah, you got a bunch of boysthat brought it back.
I saw Roberto Luongo.
I think he was eating spaghettiand meatballs out of the
Stanley.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Cup.
I did see that.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
That was a beauty,
well duty, well, listen, man.
Obviously the tournament um isis a five-year tradition, you
know, growing probably within.
But let's talk about the roots,man.
Let's talk about where youstarted fishing, because the
first time you and I talked wehad very, we had a lot, we had a
similar path to what got usinto the sport and you mentioned
to me, you know, fishing, thegrand you were, you know, grew
(10:22):
up sort of in, I guess southeastthe southwestern ontario, would
you say, was the grand you were, you know, grew up sort of in I
guess southeast southwesternontario, would you say, was that
where you kind of grew upbradford area bradford area and
uh, the rivers right.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Grand rivers run
right through there.
So from my house within like awalk there five minutes I'm on
the grands you're on the grandand and and, just for people
listening.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
The grand river is
not like the credit river.
It's not like Gany.
This river can have some hugestretch of water and it's wide.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
It's a very wide.
Yeah, it holds good fish.
It's a very healthy ecosystem.
I've had a bad rap for years.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yeah.
That was kind of a shitty riveryeah yeah, so many people think
it's a shit river becausethere's so many fish that
conjugate through the CreditRiver and the bowmanville creek
and even bronte at one point andwhen I was growing up river
fishing so all these fish would,would, would come in by the
thousands and it was like you'restepping on their backs.
Yeah, so you know why.
(11:15):
Would the some guy go out withhis fly rod to the grand where
you have to put work?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
in.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah, you gotta work
stepping on, you're not stepping
on them and, uh, I think, Ithink it's probably one of the
best well-kept secrets, becauseif you know what you're doing
out there, you're going to pop.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
You got to know the
holes and it's a big river Right
.
You're going from Port Maitlandall the way up Fergus Way.
So that's where it started,with my old man, tim Sr, taking
me and my little brother, zach,out and I remember he had his
dangerous spot.
He called it and he could nevertake me and Zach and that
(11:50):
almost got the itch more whenyou know he'd take us to the
irrigation ponds and you knowyou're just popping larges and
jumble, perching those things.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Oh, perch too oh
there's irrigation ponds.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Holy smokes.
My uncle has had some familyfarms and so he'd take us out
there and it was nuts.
He'd throw a jig head and halfa worm on and some of the
biggest perch I've seen comingout of this thing no way.
So he takes us there right whenwe're little, gets us hooked.
We used to do, uh, fishingtrips with all my uncles up on
nip um cappy, take us out and dothe shore lunches.
(12:21):
So that was getting experienceof that and got me on my first
big pike.
But yeah, like now to this day,you know, going to those spots,
my daddy, finally, would takeus there and just to show how
good the Grand is, like me, himand my brother, we'd have a
hundred bass days around theGrand River, no kidding.
And then what I love about ittoo is, like you know, I get
home from work.
(12:41):
I is like you know, I get homefrom work, I can just jet there.
There's a spot I go to within a400 or 500-meter stretch.
I'll start off carp fishing Pop, a couple of 20-pounders
screaming like a salmon, andthen you go into some top water.
I'm catching smallies.
You know, you got that witchinghour.
I switch over, I go to thisother spot.
I'm cranking walters and thenboom, and then it's dark and
(13:01):
then we have a couple beers.
We go throw some stinky shrimpin and you're popping catfish no
way.
All within like a 400 or 500meter stretch, they all got
their own little holes.
The bass and the walleye willkind of share a couple of the
same holes.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I got to ask you this
and this has always been my
take, and I have this argumentwith Top Dog Hookset.
Chris Showtime Johnson got alittle taste of what a salmon
feels like this fall.
Early in the fall we went outwith the champ and he hooked in.
We were casting for salmon outin Lake Ontario with Jay Duce.
Anyways, do river fish fightdifferently?
(13:34):
100% 100%.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
It's not even close
in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
You listen up Hookset
or Top Dog, you listen to Tim
right now because I got backupright now.
Tell the guys, tell peoplewhat's happening, because I'm a
big bass guy right.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
So like I catch the
lake bass and all that.
But you got a river small.
You get a four and a half fivepounder.
That's sitting there, even thesmaller ones, even the smaller
ones, but he's his whole life.
He's sitting there in thecurrent Constantly.
He's working out, he's buildingthe muscle.
He's sitting in the currenteating crayfish, minnows,
whatever.
And then when you've got thatcurrent, you're fighting with oh
, are you kidding me?
So the thing's peeling fivefeet out of the water, boom back
(14:06):
down.
He's fighting against current.
There's nothing like it.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
He.
I could only imagine so you, soall these species of fish you
were learning on the river andyou know how is the steelhead
fishing in the Grand, becauseI've never fished it before.
Back in the day we used to goup to the Cayuga racetrack when
I was a teenager and I rememberalways driving alongside the
Grand and I was like, wow, thisthing is huge and it's
intimidating because it doeslook like there's some spots
(14:33):
where it's like really reallyquick water Rap, because it does
look like there's some spotswhere it's like really really
quick, water Rapids are flying.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah, rapids go super
shallow into deeper holes.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
There's a lot of
holes.
You got to know where yourholes are Right.
So steelhead fishing, would yousay?
Steelhead fishing is up to parto some of the greatest
steelhead fishing in theSouthern Ontario area.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
I'd say so it's
awesome, it is so.
I'm like it's always circledSteelhead opener and we do it
some untraditional way.
Sometimes too.
I got a little 14 foot tenner.
We'll peel that down the sideof a ravine.
It's a nightmare getting downthere, carry the batteries,
trolling motor, we launch it in,and there's stretches where
I'll be trolling spoons, justpopping them, and there's a big
(15:12):
boat.
I'd say it's a 1500 meterstretch we run so I'll troll to
the top of it, kill the motorand just drift back with current
casting.
There's at the end there's abigger hole.
I'll anchor in and just castthat for 30 minutes and then
kind of just repeat and there'sa huge island around there and
you know we'll catch some.
We go.
We do shore lunches.
I'm like opener and go right up.
(15:33):
One of my good buddies, orlando, is a's a guide at Anderson's
Lodge, so he loves doing theshore lunches.
He does it for a living, so Ilet him take lead on the shore
lunch and, yeah, flame up, dofresh shore lunch and then back
at it.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Let's talk about the
shore lunches, because it's one
of the things that you know.
Everyone has their own storiesand how they do their shore
lunch.
You could always get yourclassics with your fried Walters
and baked beans and potatoes,but how do you guys prepare for
your shore lunches?
So, first of all, obviouslyyou're planning on catching fish
, oh yeah, and you're packing acooler with all your necessities
(16:11):
you need.
Or do you guys build a firefrom scratch?
Do you guys just kind of bringa frying pan, some oil, some
fish crisp?
What do you guys usually do?
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yeah, so we'll bring
a pan.
We got the pans.
We'll start a fire.
We have, like, the cages andeverything, so we'll get all
that, set up, the grill cratesand, yeah, we'll fry them up.
Some salt, pepper, oil, splashof lemon, fucking right.
Yeah, get the beans going.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Or the potato tots
and, um, yeah, sometimes we've
even done corn, we have cobs ofcorn going and you just kind of
get around, you just throw ahook on, you throw it out there
while you guys are eating yeah,and then I've done.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
I do salt bricks a
lot too.
We'll bring out the salt bricksoh yeah, big himalayan salt
bricks and we'll cook them righton top of that.
No way, that always tastesreally good wow.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
So what species would
you prefer doing a shore lunch,
or what species have you had asa shore lunch?
I would.
I would that just to rephrasethat question yeah, I'm still a
walter guy.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah, I love the
walleye classic walters.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yeah, you can never
go wrong, and I know that.
So so, walters, out of thegrand.
Where are those?
Like do you?
Are they darker?
Are they golden?
Because I know so, they aregolden, they're golden Because I
know some of the fish.
They are golden.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
They're golden right,
you get a bit of both Okay, but
I'd say most of the I've caughthave been more the golden Okay.
And there's some good holeswhere you go and boom, you get a
couple twos.
Just bang, bang, couple twopounders, you're like perfect.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
What's the slot size
on the Grand for Walters, or
yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:32):
there's not even a
slide in certain areas.
It depends where you are andeverything.
Because it's such a big river,right, of course, yeah.
And then it's crazy too,because there's your sanctuaries
.
You just got to know where youare.
If you are on the Grand doingthings, because there's huge
stretches of it's just troutsanctuaries Okay, so no, keeping
anything you catch in thosestretches all barbless hooks,
(17:52):
right and then you go to theother side of the bridge and
that's free game.
It's free game.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
So if you are fishing
, you just got to look at the
regulations and right no, makesure you know where you are is
it strategically done, like Iknow certain areas, that I
fished the rivers, and I'll usethe beaver river up in
collingwood or thornberry.
I should say, as you know, myreference point, because back in
the day, um, you know, my goodfriend jay and I again we up
river fishing together there wasa certain section closer to the
(18:18):
bridge of 26 where there was awire that shot across the river
and you couldn't catch, youcouldn't even cast past that
wire and it was because ofsanctuary.
But I noticed all the guyswould always, you know, if you
didn't get to your spot earlyenough, all the guys will sort
of line up right before thatwire Right on that mouth Right
on that mouth because they knowall that, that sanctuary fish
(18:40):
there.
For me it was always the huntLike I wanted.
I didn't want to go there.
Yes, there was tons of fishthere.
You know your chances werebetter of hooking into a rainbow
.
But fishing fast water, fishingdeeper holes, fishing deeper
holes.
And I never really got into flyfishing per se.
(19:00):
But you know, centerpin fishingis similar in in some sense,
but I would say that the fasterwater, the deeper holes, you
know lining your float up to getthat perfect drift just under
that wood, that's off the bank,you know, and you're just
slowing it down.
There's nothing.
There's nothing like it.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
You know what I mean
on the exact same way, like so
same thing.
There's whiteman's creek, whichis just that's where all these
steelies are running up, right,they're spawning whiteman the
nith and all that and you'll getguys are an opener and there's
50 guys and they're all lined upat the mouth and I know I could
probably catch more numbers too, right, but I'm like part of
fishing is a piece of it, ofcourse.
You know like I can be in thecity and then I go to my holes
(19:34):
and you look around, there'snothing but trees and I got like
it's real remote.
I put a little more grind in toget into these spots and I know
I might catch a few less, butit's just me and the boys On a
boat.
There's no one else around andI'm not dealing with 50 people
sitting beside me fishing too.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
And you mentioned
something to me bacon walleye.
What's the bacon walleye?
What's going on with that?
It's awesome, is it awesome?
So so would you wrap your fish?
Speaker 3 (19:59):
we just wrap it into
the bacon and tinfoil oh my god,
boom, bacon, tinfoil.
And then you just chuck it onthe side of the fire, crate, you
know, not right over the flame,and oh man, so you're.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
You're sure lunches,
you take them to a different
level sometimes.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
That's awesome
because, remember me and the
boys were sitting there, it wasactually my Uncle, sean.
Right, we pulled the bass out.
We killed it because it's theair.
Right, we pulled it out like 40feet down.
We're like this is going to bea good one because he's eating
schmeltz cold water bass.
And then so we flayed it up.
We didn't really have muchbecause it was just rented a
place, just shot up there, justseen the bacon and the bass
(20:33):
slice and we're like this isincredible.
I don't think you can go wronghere.
You had me at bacon yeah.
So we just put the bacon in thetinfoil, wrapped it, chucked it
on the fire and it's a gamechanger.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Game changer.
Well, listen, man, we're goingto take a short break, but
listen when we get back.
Ok, I got to ask.
You mentioned the story andit's an incredible story and
hope you can share with that tothe listeners On the other side
of this break.
We'll be right back with Mr TimJr.
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plenty of laughs along the way.
Meanwhile we're sitting therebobbing along trying to figure
out how to catch a bass and weboth decided one day we were
going to be on television doinga fishing show.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
My hands get sore a
little bit when I'm reeling in
all those bass in the summertime, but that might be for more
fishing than it was punching.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
So confidently you
said hey, pat, have you ever
eaten a trout?
Find Diaries of a Lodge Ownernow on Spotify, apple Podcasts
or wherever you get your podcast.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
I'm back, welcome
back, smash Malucka, here
sitting down with Mr Tim Jrno-transcript and if you can
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share that story with us,because this is a true
fisherman's proposal if I'veever heard one, and the story is
incredible.
So I'll leave the mic to youand you could even start back on
how you were prepping this inyour head, because I know there
was a lot of work that went intoit.
It was a lot.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
So, yeah, just me
being me, right, love the water
had everything to do with beingoutdoors near the water, right?
So that's one of my go-tosteelhead spots.
I'll mention you there, thatisland.
We do the shore lunches on.
I decided, yeah, I'm going topropose to her there.
So she's a very outdoorsy girltoo, and some of our first dates
were at her cottage up onStoney Lake cooking over the
(24:41):
fire.
Those are some of our earlymemories when we started dating.
So I went out to this islandit's got a kayak with a little
trolling motor on it, so I jetout there with the boys with
some tools and shovels and sawsand everything, and it was all
overgrown because I seen it inthe spring and then you know
it's fall now and I'm like, ah,shit.
So we spent like a good day.
(25:01):
We tracked out a path, clearedit out and there's a huge tree
that's fallen over.
So we had it.
So like you go under the tree,so it's almost like you kind of
don't see the backside, and thenyou pop up and and we had a
whole area cleared out.
So that day I had everythingprepped on the island.
So I couldn't have done itwithout my brother and a couple
of my best friends.
(25:22):
So I take her for just whatshe's thinking is a river walk.
We get there, we start.
I'm like let's go down this way.
So we walk down.
So there's two kayaks there.
I'm strapped together andthere's a trolling motor on the
one.
I'm like that's weird, that'sconvenient.
Yeah, I'm like that's wildschool for a rip.
So we hop on in and then wecruise up the right side of the
(25:43):
island and then my brother andthe boys they're on their kayaks
.
They launch strategically,right at the right time so we
don't see each other.
I go all the way to thebackside and that's where
there's a path and her fairflower is a sunflower, so I just
sunflower heads just as a trailleading.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
So she's like what's
going on here?
She, she must have thought ofsomething when she saw that.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
So then we follow
this little sunflower head trail
and then you go under thatlittle, big, massive fallen tree
and pop up and there's a firegoing, tablecloth, all the
drinks on ice, and then, um, abunch of her favorite foods.
So then I cooked for out there,you know, did salmon on the
salt brick, we did steak skewersand deep fried crab sticks for
(26:23):
her, and then a big thing ofnachos in a tray.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
I threw on the fire
as well oh man, sounds like a
party more than an engagementyeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
And then yeah, just
popped down on my knee and did
it jesus.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
So she, she must have
been blown away like she was,
just just like.
How did you pull?
Speaker 3 (26:38):
this off Exactly Just
all the effort she knew and how
much went into that.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Of course, and the
boys did.
They show up after it was alldone, Did they come out of?
You know?
Speaker 3 (26:47):
No, they just.
They went right back down riverand then just peaced out.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Well, that was a team
effort, folks.
You know if, folks you know ifyou can get your friends
involved and something like thatyou're going to remember for
the rest of your life.
You know it's uh, needless tosay, that's special and
congratulations to you, and Iknow that tim might have set the
bar for some of the listenersout there.
You know, plan ahead if you'regonna make something special and
(27:11):
, uh, you know what man toodlesto you yeah, I had some people
go you go, you're nuts, You'renuts.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
They're like that's
not going to work.
I'm like watch me.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Oh man.
Well, that's incredible,brother.
Congratulations again.
So now you've got a weddingthat you're planning and you
know we've chatted about itbecause you know I'm, you know,
so grateful and I'm I don't evenknow how to say it, but you
asked me to be the caterer foryour wedding, which, I don't
(27:38):
care what I had booked thatweekend, we're making it happen.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
I wouldn't want
anyone else but you there.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
And it's an honor for
me to come up there and cook
for you guys on your special day.
And let's talk about that daybecause you have been planning
something where you are going toinclude it.
It's going to be sort of youroutdoorsy type of wedding, right
?
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Yeah.
So, like me and Steph, weeloped kind of during COVID
Right, we just got it done andnow this is the big one that we
wanted to redo with the familyand everything like that.
And, like I said, like from theproposal on the island to us
dating, it's like this is justhow we want to do it.
So, you know, we're doing it atForest Hills Lodge.
It's on Lovesick Lake inKawarthas.
We rented the whole lodge.
It's a small, just intimatewedding, 25 people and it's got
(28:20):
a nice chalet, seven cottages onthe property, and so obviously
I did it.
We're going to do it in thefall, right, because it's a good
musky lake.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Now who plans their
wedding around, muskies, that's
incredible man.
It's the way to do it and takenotes, people.
Okay, I don't think I'd everever be able to convince my wife
to have a wedding around thelucky guy moon when the musky
are biting.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
You know what I mean
and she's even the one that said
uh, you know, all the girls aregonna take a while to get ready
, so you guys can get the boatsand go fishing in the morning of
and just make sure you're backin time shower and don't stink
that that is awesome.
I'm like wow, I'm lucky.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
You are like so,
while the girls are getting
their hair did, nails done,sounds like a Drake song.
Yeah, and you're out there.
You guys are smashing 50s.
Oh yeah, that's the goal.
That's the goal.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
And then you can even
, like I said, if it's going to
be, we're ready to go oh man, Idon't know where's the caterer.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Where is he there?
He's on the lake smash tim, Ithink they're, they're into a
big one that's awesome man.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Best part too, is
that, like just talking the
owner.
Last week I went to check outthe venue and, uh, he's popping
musky right off the dock there.
Wow.
So I'm gonna have all my muskyrods sitting there set up for,
you know, my uncle, my dad's,the guests, whoever like.
Hey, you want to be in yoursuit and go cask knock yourself
out what a wedding video that'sgoing to be.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Somebody, somebody
landing a muskie yeah, right on
the shore as well.
You're just suiting, I'll dieyour knees deep in the water,
pulling that puppy out I'll havemy bow tie on and everything.
It'll be beautiful.
That's awesome, man.
So you know you mentionedmuskie.
Um, you know the fall is coming.
Um, you are quite a a muskyangler as well yes, I love musky
(30:02):
fishing and so, this time ofyear, you must be fired up, just
as much as I am oh, it'severything.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
You got the big musky
, the big bass, everything.
And um, yeah, last weekend Iwas up at stony, so, um, I had
one fall, that was it.
But flying out next week onTuesday going up to see my good
buddy Will Polosky yeah, he ownsNordic Point Lodge- Nordic
Point Lodge, who is also co-hostof Steve Niedzwicki's Diaries
(30:29):
of a Lodge owner.
Yeah, and now they've addedStories of the North.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Stories of the North
Diaries and people.
If you're listening, steve is,you know, being a partner with
Steve for the past year, hispodcast is fantastic and just
adding your friend to that mixthose guys there I'm sure the
stories are going to beincredible, you know, and
(30:52):
toodles to those guys.
So you're heading up there.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Yeah, Unfortunately
missed his wedding, so this was
kind of a okay, get your ass uphere at least then yeah, exactly
, you gotta put your time in flyinto winnipeg tuesday morning
early and then, you know, flyout saturday.
So get a good three and a halfdays just dialing in a muskie
with him up there so the muskieup there would you say they're.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
You know, chances of
landing a 50 are great, oh yeah,
will sent me pics of like 56s.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Wow, like just slobs
up there, wow so and what kind
of style fish you guys cast andtrolling a little bit of
everything yeah, it's gonna bemy first time up there with him,
so, um, I'm excited to see what, how he wants to dial in on it,
wow, so I'm assuming a bit ofboth will do.
I love the casting becausethere's nothing better nothing
better.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah, I agree, we got
the Muskie Brawl coming up,
which Eating Well is the 50-inchplus sponsor for, and it's
going to be hard for me to watchthese guys casting their shots
because it's a casting-onlytournament.
The brawl is a specialtournament.
Davey G and Graham.
What they've put together isincredible and it's one of those
(31:56):
things where you don't reallysee a casting only for musky
tournament, like it doesn'texist.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Trolling yeah, it's
always trolling, and I've got
planer boards out there coveringground.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
And I don't blame
them because chances are, you
know, especially if you're aguide and you want to get that
person on a fish of a lifetime.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
You got some pain.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yeah, hundreds of
dollars, hundreds of dollars.
And you want to make sure thatthey get that picture because
that's what it's about, right?
And it's not like back in theday where guys were going out
there and trying to get a 50 tostuff and put them on their wall
.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
you can do that now
artificially take a picture your
measurements, boom, it's donethat's it and that's what I did
with mine.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
The one I got with
hook set was a 52 with dan.
I think that was 2016.
Maybe I could be wrong, but umtook the picture, took 100
pictures, I was pumped and nowit's stuffed in my cottage at
the school and I got theShadzilla hanging from its mouth
.
Still, retired bait, retiredbait.
I got the wall of those.
Oh man, so you got your muskyfishing fix coming up soon.
(32:56):
What about business?
So how do you find time,Because Campus Crew has been
around since the 80s am.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
I right.
So my uncle, nick Rizzo, hestarted the whole franchise, the
retail stores and all that in88.
In 88.
And then we were just a majorretailer.
My old man got involved early2000s and then, yeah, about 16
years ago, we started dippinginto the wholesale market and it
kind of just took off for us,right, where a lot of people
(33:26):
thought we went bankrupt becausewe just liquidated like 60, 70
stores all at once.
Wow, you know.
But after you know, doing ayear of wholesale and you're
running numbers and stockingstaffing, dealing with the
bullshit of 70 stores Right, ittook all your time.
You're making more money on thewholesale side.
Right, your time, you're makingmore money on the wholesale
side.
So we just put all our eggsinto that one basket and now
it's one large building.
We stock all the inventoryblank, got embroidered machines
(33:47):
chugging 24 7, and that's where,yeah, I'm out there hustling
Getting custom orders and it'sbeen awesome for me working with
family.
So now it's me, my dad, and thenNick Rizzo Jr, my cousin, so
the three of us are runningeverything now and being able to
merge my passion into the workside.
So, you know, before we werevery, you know, we were doing
(34:08):
universities and all big sportsteams, which is awesome too.
And then I'm like there's sucha, there's so much money in the
fishing world too, of course,and that's my passion.
It's a bunch of meat.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah, it's, it's,
it's you.
Bunch of meats yeah, you saidit right there.
When you can combine yourpassion with your everyday job
or career.
I love cooking.
I'm blessed because I get tocook every day, but if I can
somehow incorporate fishing orhunting with the cooking ie
shore lunches, cooking differenttypes of meats, learning how to
(34:39):
butcher different things andwe're learning every day and
anybody listening to our podcastknows that the Foreskins, we
are not pros when it comes toshore lunches or shooting bears
and field dressing them andmaking jalapeno bear poppers on
the spot.
That's not us.
That's not the picture thatwe're painting here for people.
(35:00):
We are just passionate dudesthat have all different types of
careers like yourself.
Picture that we're paintinghere for people.
We are just passionate dudesthat you know have all different
types of careers, like yourself, but we merge the outdoors and
our passions into the careersomehow, and the fact that you
get to do that is amazing everyday.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
It's a blessing.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
I'm here because of that.
We met because of a work thingand now we're boys.
I'm going up to Will's placebecause I started doing product
for him and now we're goodbuddies Incredible.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
It's crazy how the
outdoors just brings people
together, no matter what yourcareer is, and I find that you
know, ever since we starteddoing this podcast together and
you know this goes for again,I'm always speaking for the
foreskins here we are meetingdifferent people constantly and
with social media now Siege hasbeen running our social media.
(35:45):
He's getting DMs from peopletalking about different lures
and different lines and knivesand spices.
And did you guys try this?
Have you guys tried that?
And then we're putting outrecipes and stuff like that.
And it all comes down to beingoutside and being in the
outdoors.
Whether you're fishing, hunting, camping or you're just going
out for a walk with your dog, nomatter what it is, it brings us
(36:07):
together.
It's crazy.
And you know how do you findthe time, tim, like, how do you
manage now your life whereyou're engaged?
You know you guys have beentogether for a while.
Sorry, you're married already,but you're you know, technically
you're married, you beentogether for a while.
Or you're sorry you're marriedalready, but you're you know
technically you're married.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Um, you have a little
man.
You're a little guy.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
You got a year, year
and a half boy and and you still
find time to to get out thereand do what you love to do, but
manage work as well, right?
Speaker 3 (36:33):
uh, but still, if you
find balance not as much right
now as I used to, obviously, but, like I said, my wife's awesome
.
She lets me do these trips,those tournaments, and fly and
fly up and see Will and get awayin November with you when we go
dial in on some skis.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Oh, we're going to
pop.
We are going to find time topop and through work.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Right, that's an
excuse.
So it's like I got bigcorporate accounts where you
walk in they're in a suit andtie.
Next thing we know it's been anhour and we're talking outdoors
and, and we're talking outdoorsand we haven't even talked
about what hoodies you want,what hats you want.
And next thing, you know, ournext meeting I'm taking a
Thursday with that guy and I'mtaking my client out fishing.
Wow, like I take them out.
(37:11):
I do a lot of steelhead fishingRight With my clients.
I'll let them know like hey, wecan get out.
I got a tenner.
It's an old bushwhack.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
We bush rack, we
launch it and I'll put you out
on there and I'll get you on acouple nice 10 pound steelhead
and they're like no shit is itone of those guys that show up
tim where you invite themfishing, and they show up
wearing like designer jeans andlike expensive nike shocks and
you know, because this happenedto top once I've had it once,
yeah yeah, if you hear top dogstory on what happened with him
(37:40):
when he lost the pike of hislife, when he brought his buddy
out with him, who was just yourhey, you're gonna the same thing
, you're gonna come fishing withme, I'm gonna take you fishing
and he shows up wearing designerjeans and glasses, looks like a
model, and he ends up throwingthe cradle at the fish.
If you didn't listen to thatepisode, I gotta.
I don't know.
I'm not sure what episode it is, but luise tells us the story.
It was the fish that got awayand I'll tell you, man, you can
(38:03):
get those guys where you invitethem out and they're just not
built for the outdoors.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
No, just got a super
green, super green, right, and
oh man I now bring a bag everytime I go with rain gear,
because I had guys show up tooand just wearing like a hoodie
and the forecast is calling forpissing rain the whole day.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
That's me, though.
I have a problem.
Yeah, I always.
I and dan will always chirp me.
He's always like did you notlook at the forecast?
And I look at him.
Yeah, I'm fine, don't worryabout it.
Next thing you know, I'mshivering in the corner and
they're like do you want to wearmy jacket smash.
So, speaking of jackets,speaking of jackets, buddy, you
showed up here with a gift forthe foreskins.
(38:41):
I can't wait for these guys tosee.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
How to hook you boys
up.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
He hooked us up.
Boys, if you're listening, well, by the time they're listening
to this, they'll already have itin hand, but you made something
for us that we can't wait torep.
We're going to show pictures ofthese on social media.
Now, if people wanted to getyour product, tim, do they have
to be some sort of?
Can the average person say, hey, I don't own a business, but I
(39:07):
love Campus Crew?
100%, 100%.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
So I have I do like
24-piece minimums.
So I have a lot of guys thatit's a group of boys and they go
up to their hunt camp everyfall and I designed them up,
stupid hoodies.
It's like a deer.
It says fast food or whateverthey want or their you know
their groups inside Stupid nameor like no way Dirty joke.
Like I got lots of those guys.
They're like yo, I got a boytrip coming up.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Can you make me this
like just gong show hoodie, and
I'm like I can put that togetherfor you Funny story is, for the
first 10, I'd say even 12 yearsof us doing our fall trip, the
Foreskins, we actually did that.
We made.
Just we made five or six ofthem Actually it was six,
because it was Sean, coach me,lou, dan and CJ we made shirts
(39:56):
and we had them littered withsponsors, but not your average
sponsors, like the sponsors thatyou would probably not see on
tv because they'd have to bebleeped out.
Yeah, and you know, we havepictures of ourselves and I'll
never forget there's I thinkit's a picture of dan holding a
massive pike or a muskie andunderneath he's wearing a
(40:18):
t-shirt and underneath it yousee Vagisil.
And I think somebody might havecommented and said are you guys
sponsored by Vagisil?
Because you see the big.
Vagisil it was on the bottom.
And then, you know, one year wehad the Big fish loop, oh my
god.
One year we had all of ourcompanies on there.
We had Colors in Space or Loon,and we had Scandinavian Tobacco
(40:39):
Group, and we had all thesedifferent names Gourmet Craft
and Catering, bear CreekCottages and we all just
littered these shirts with allthe sponsors and I'm pretty sure
that's illegal to do.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
But we were younger
and we didn't really care.
Take the logo 5%.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Yeah, nobody was
really looking anyways, and it
was cool man.
So the fact that you do thatfor guys still and you custom
make stuff for guys is prettycool.
So how can, like, can peoplereach you?
Like?
Can they just go on the CampusCrew website?
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Just go on the Campus
Crew website, go to contact us
and then you'll see Tim Dawsonlike contact info, email, cell
phone number and, yeah, reachout.
That's amazing.
I come right to you, I'll popin, I'll show you the samples
and we'll have a good time inthe process.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
That's beautiful man.
Now, a couple of things beforewe go, because you know there's
so much to talk about with youthat this could, we could
literally be here all day.
You know, we, you.
You quickly talked to meyesterday.
It was a quick story, but youtalked to me about your
aquaculture, and aquaculture issomething that was a passion of
yours.
(41:39):
Yes, and you were into breedingcertain species of fish and to
this day, are you still doing it?
I'm still breeding koi.
You're still breeding koi.
That's incredible.
What's the process like?
How does somebody even how doesthat happen?
How do you get involved inbreeding koi fish?
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Again.
It started with my old man, sohe was really into aquariums, so
it's just my whole love of fishfrom fishing to aquariums in
the house and started in thereand then to grabbing a shovel
like dad, let's dig a pond.
So we dug a massive like 12,000gallon pond, filled it with koi
, and then in the spring theystarted spawning.
(42:17):
And then there's hundreds ofthousands of eggs just littered
in the ponds and then the spermsall on top.
And then, you know, juststarted like, hey, let's see if
I can make these, like dosomething with these, like make
the eggs hatch and survive.
And then just one thing led toanother and it's just been going
on for like 15 years now.
So at my place I built big likethe grow out ponds, right, so
(42:40):
there's no pump systems, it'sjust all air stones so the
babies can't get sucked up, sothey'll spawn in the big ponds
and then I go in there, goggleson, I'm swimming in there, oh my
.
God, harvesting eggs like rockscovered in eggs, gently putting
them in totes little air stonesin there and skimming the sperm
off the top, putting it in thetotes and transporting them over
(43:02):
to the other grow out ponds.
And, yeah, there'll bethousands and thousands at times
and um, and then, yeah, growthem out and I just kind of sell
them on Kijiji.
Some a lot of people know menow so they'll just text me hey,
tim, when's your next cropavailable?
Speaker 2 (43:14):
And that's incredible
, and and and you wanted to do.
You wanted to be a fish farm,sort of as a career.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
Before.
Yeah, I was going to do like,obviously I joined the family
business Before that.
I had big plans on I want to bea fish farmer, you know, for do
fish to eat, tilapia, and allthat and then wanted to work
with, like, the government aswell and the ministry for
stocking programs and, you know,raising all that salmon, musky,
(43:41):
bass, anything that neededstocking, and, yeah, almost went
for it.
I was going to go to the fishand wildlife program and do the
aquaculture program over atFleming, but then, yeah, just
ended up joining the familybusiness.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Nothing wrong with
that.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
And I wouldn't look
back.
I love it.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Yeah, you still get
to do, you know.
You're still breeding koi andyou're still having fun doing it
.
And you're still breeding koiand you're still having fun
doing it.
And you're in the familybusiness.
You're making dough, yeah, andyou can still enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
I got busy during
COVID too because I was really
pumped in the koi breeding.
I was doing a dozen aquariumsin the basement.
I was breeding discus fish.
I was selling them to a localfish shop.
I was doing like tropicalspecies as well.
That's great.
You had the giant puffer fish.
I had a huge five 300 gallonaquarium with a giant maboo
puffer in there and then hadanother giant aquarium with
(44:28):
peacock bass and red tail catfish.
I was right into it.
Anything fishing, fish, fishing, raising them you got it.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
I love it so listen,
man, you're a man, you're a man
of the outdoors, you're a man ofthe outdoors, you're a man of
family business, and we're sohappy to meet you and to be a
part of what you do,business-wise and also
friendship-wise.
We're going to fish together.
We're going to come up withtons of stories, and I think
that's the best part abouthaving these relationships with
(44:58):
people you meet in our industry,because it's a small industry
but yet it's a.
It's a big industry in thesense where everyone's connected
.
Somehow Somebody knows somebodyand this person knows this
person.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
It's amazing once you
start getting into it and it
all circles back.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
I would say that and
so so what's in the future for
you, brother?
Like, obviously, the campuscrew, you, you are growing, you
are, you're out there, you'rehustling every day, but once you
get, once these guys settledown, you have the one and a
half year old.
What's the goal for Tim?
What's your mindset when itcomes to business and pleasure?
Speaker 3 (45:35):
Yeah, the biggest
thing right now is just
continuing to grow, grow thatbusiness, get it to a point
where I will have another kidcoming up and then so that would
be my main focus.
You know, raise, grow my family, grow on the company and then
get it to a point where, youknow, I do have the luxuries of,
you know, getting a better boat, getting a cottage on the water
and having more free time andto travel than with my kids.
(45:58):
Yeah Right, take both my, youknow, both my kids up north
travel all around and, like mydad did for me, like we used to
travel all over and and it wasalways fishing involved as well,
like I remember times she'dtake me out to, we'd go to nova
scotia, yeah, and flew in there.
It's a 10-day trip.
We only had one night rented.
The first night we had a hotelbooked in halifax.
(46:19):
When we landed we went, renteda big suv, went to the Walmart,
bought rods, a bunch of spoonsand Blue Fox, and then we would
just drive, go up Cape BretonCabot Trail and my dad would
just pull over and be like allright, boys, go cast, pop a
mackerel in the ocean and thenhe'd drive up another 1,500
meters, find a creek, catch somebrowns on the left side of the
road and finding you know, andfinding little lodges and cabins
(46:44):
, little places right on theocean.
We'd stay and eat the bestseafood and I was lucky growing
up.
My dad did a lot of wickedthings like that for us, which
then created the fish guy I amtoday and I want to just be able
to supply that for my family.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Exactly.
If you can only do half of thatfor your kids and I know times
are different now with kids andsocial media and everyone's
glued to their iPads and to yourcell phones and stuff but get
rid of those for a weekend.
Take them fishing, take yourkids out there and do a short
lunch, try it.
If you fail, who cares?
It's a story.
And if you don't catch anything, you know what it's still a
(47:17):
good day because you'reexperiencing something outside
and you know it's.
It's cool that you, you know.
Now do what your father did foryou and implement that with
your own family and grow Likeyou said.
You know.
I think we're all in this toshare our knowledge and
hopefully, our kids take it youknow, it was you know if they
don't want to fish they don'twant to fish.
Yeah, you know.
(47:38):
But if you can show them theroots and you can tell them
stories about you, know whatyour father used to do for you.
I think that's what it's allabout, brother.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
And I already started
.
Right last weekend had a littleman out in Stoney and he just
loves it.
Doesn't matter the size youbring in a fish and he just
quick feet screaming.
And every time I bring in mymusky bait thought I was a fish
as well.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
That's awesome, man.
Well, listen, brother, I wantto thank you for taking the time
to come in studio with me today.
Um, you know, talking aboutfishing, love and hunting,
whatever the hell it is that youdo in the outdoors, whatever
floats your boat, and, uh, youknow, I can't wait to get on the
water with you, brother I can'twait this is smash malecca.
We have tim dawson jr with uslive in studio.
(48:25):
Please follow him.
Check him out online atcampuscrewcom, I would say is
that, is that sound correct?
Yeah and uh, you know, checkout the swag, check out their
gear.
And uh, you know, tim,hopefully we get on the water
soon and later brother.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
Yeah, hoping this
year we'll get out in the fall
we're doing it, smash malecca.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
We're checking out of
here, uh, eating wild podcast
ciao on the big old blue todaywe've got the stars lined up.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
They're coming out
ready to play.
It won't be long.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
They'll be pulling
our fish and we'll be serving
them their favorite dish.
All the feeling screaming reelson fishing fire.