October 18, 2022 • 34 mins
Join me as I interview three tween girls as they begin their journey into wearing makeup.
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(00:37):
Hello Eco Mamas.
Today's topic is all abouttweens, so if you have children,
especially girls, and they arekind of coming of age, this will
be a good topic for you.
I have a nine year old daughterand an 11 year old daughter, and
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they have been curious about mymakeup probably since they
started trying on my high heelswhen they were two years old
walking around in them.
and they would just play littledress up here and there, but I
never really let them wearmakeup quotation marks in the
air there.
And still to this day, they'renot allowed to wear it outside
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of the house, but with theirages and their curiosities, they
are starting to play more andmore with it.
They have been begging me fortheir own makeup now for six or
eight months.
Jaime (01:30):
And I was like, Why can't you just use mine?
You, you're fine with usingmine.
My rule is that they can playdress up with my things.
They may not use my mascara, butthey can play dress up with all
my other makeup as long as theyleave my bathroom better than
they found it and they returneverything where they found it.
When their friends come over,they will give each other
makeovers in my bathroom, whichis totally fine.
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It's absolutely precious.
They practice putting makeup oneach other and then they have to
wash their face either before weleave the house to get all the
makeup off or before they go tobed, and I just stress the
importance of doing that withthem.
Now that they want their ownmakeup, I had to have the
conversation with them cuz as anEco Mama, I'm very particular
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about the products that we usein our home, especially the
products that my children use onthemselves.
This is the first time wherethey're looking for something.
Outside of what I na normallyprovide for them, like I'll buy
them toothpaste that I approveof and shampoos and body washes
and soaps, and hand soaps, andactually deodorant.
(02:37):
Now they have deodorant in theirlittle arsenal of tween life.
I wanted to help them understandwhy going to the local drug
store or buying something at thegrocery store for makeup, just
because the colors are prettyand the marketing is great, and
it says it's for tweens.
It may not be this safestsolution for their makeup needs.
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And that is because of theingredients of those products.
It's not to say that everythingin those stores is bad.
By no means.
I deal with products based oneby one by one, but it's very
rare that I can find somethingthat.
Meets my stringent selectionprocess for clean ingredients at
a CVS or a Walgreens or Walmart,or sometimes even Target.
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They have these aisles that aremarketed for clean beauty or
cleaner beauty, but you stillgotta take that individual
product and turn it over andlook at the list of ingredients.
I made a proposal to mydaughters.
I shared with them that we couldstart purchasing makeup for
them.
My method of parenting is that Iwill always provide what my
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children.
What they need will be given tothem by their mother and father.
They need clothes, they needfood, they need love.
They don't need designer jeans.
They may want designer jeans,but they don't need them.
They may want name brand things,but when it comes to what I
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provide for them, what I pay fora hundred percent with our
money, it's the things that theyneed.
Now.
We'll compromise on some otherstuff.
If they really want it, maybewe'll meet'em halfway.
But they earn an allowance.
They do chores, they earn anallowance, they get birthday
money.
They're great at saving all ofthat.
When it comes to things thatthey want, that is their
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responsibility.
With makeup is something theywant.
It's not anything they need.
I will buy their shampoo, theirconditioner, their toothpaste,
I'll even do body lotion, likethese are things I see as kind
of needs, but when it comes tomakeup, that's a total wants in
my category.
And they understand that.
They understand that completely.
What I proposed to them was thatI would pay for half of the cost
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of their makeup if they chose touse the brands that I selected
for them.
They had complete discretion asto.
What colors they would purchase.
They could do their favoritecolors.
They just must use the brandsthat I approve because I want
them to use safe ingredients.
I don't want them putting muckon their face that is, has got
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stuff that's gonna cause skinproblems or any more deep seated
issues.
Just want clean beauty for mybabies.
So they agreed to it.
They now.
Mascara, which was really coolbecause I would never let them
use mine.
I learned a long time ago, andmaybe this is real, maybe this
isn't, I'm not sure, but I wastold that it's easy to transfer
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any, like eye issues.
EYE funk with mascara, and sothat's something that you should
never share with anyone.
That should be an individualuse.
I've never let them use mymasra.
I was out one day at Garners,which is a natural store where I
get some of our vitamins from,and they had a few makeup lines
there, and one of them was MadHippy.
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Mad Hippy is a brand I've heardgreat things about, but I'd
never personally used it.
I was like, Huh.
Let me try their mascara.
So I bought two of the mascara'sand I brought'em home, and I put
'em in a little gift bag for mygirls.
And when they got home fromschool, I said, I, I have a
surprise for you.
I've bought you something, butif you don't want it, we can
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easily return it because this issomething that falls under an
agreement.
They opened it.
They absolutely loved it.
They were super excited.
The price was$18.99, so$19.
So I just, I rounded.
I said, All right, now I paid 20for each.
And you, if you wanna keep it,you have to give me 10.
But there's no obligation.
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If you don't wanna pay for this,then I will return it.
It's not a big deal.
And they both were so excited.
They went, got out their littlejars of cash, gave me 10 bucks
each, and went upstairs andstarted putting mascara on and
bless their hearts.
My 11 year old got it onperfect.
The first try.
My nine year old kept likestabbing her eyeball with the
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wand So we, we took some timeand I showed them like some
proper application and.
Curling their lashes as theyapply it and how to try not to
get it into the eye, and thenher sister helped her too.
Needless to say, they now havemascara and that is their first
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item in their collection forbeauty.
Part of this tween episode is tointerview a couple tweens to
talk to them.
What good is helping themnavigate the world, makeup and
skincare, if you don't get theirfeedback, you wanna understand
their motives, you wannaunderstand what they're looking
for.
I think that's just part ofparenting too.
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You have to try and understandyour audience in life.
When it comes to parenting, youwanna see what your child wants
and needs, and then you can helpthem navigate because they're
gonna have to eventually makeall those decisions for
themselves.
I am interviewing my 11 year olddaughter about her desires and
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interest in the world of makeup.
The questions (08:09):
first one is, do you think that you are ready to
wear makeup?
Samantha (08:17):
I'm not sure, but I would like to try it.
Jaime (08:20):
Why do you want to try it?
I have no idea.
Is it beauty thing or is itbecause you've seen it on TV or
because friends at school arewearing it?
Samantha (08:32):
I have no idea.
Jaime (08:33):
So she's not really sure why, but she knows that she is
interested in it and.
Enjoys applying it.
Is that correct?
Samantha (08:40):
Yeah, like with dress up and friends and stuff.
Jaime (08:42):
So she'll spend some time in my bathroom going through my
makeup and they take turnsbeautifying each other with
colors.
So what is mom's current rulearound makeup?
Can you share that with theaudience?
Samantha (08:55):
You can use it for dress up as long as you clean it
up afterwards and never wear itto school..
Jaime (09:00):
And, I'm not really a big fan of wearing it outside the
house.
Is that correct?
Samantha (09:05):
Yes.
Jaime (09:05):
So right now at this age, she is my oldest.
She's 11 and her sister is nine,who's even more into it than she
is.
I highly discourage them wearingoutside of the house.
It's not an absolute rule.
Every now and again, if theysneak out a little lip gloss
when we're going to the store,it's fine, but definitely not to
school.
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Like not out and about, justit's something that they want to
experiment with at home, that isabsolutely fine with me.
Do you understand why momdoesn't want you to wear it out
of the house?
No.
Part of the reason that I don'twant them to wear it out of the
house is just because it doesmake them look older than they,
than they are.
Samantha (09:45):
Mm-hmm.
Jaime (09:46):
And, I don't think that's healthy.
I don't want them to be outthere and someone treating them
like a teenager when they'restill emotionally and physically
developing as a tween.
And I definitely don't want themto be approached by someone that
might have ulterior motivesbecause they think they're
beautiful and older.
Like stranger danger.
Samantha (10:08):
That's danger.
Jaime (10:10):
What'd you say?
Samantha (10:11):
I said that's danger.
Jaime (10:12):
That's dangerous.
Yes, it is.
When will you be ready to wearmakeup out of the house?
Samantha (10:17):
Never.
Jaime (10:18):
Never?
I doubt that's true.
I'm sure there will be a timeand a place then 40.
45.
We'll transition into it.
She's also my very mature one.
This Samantha here.
Samantha (10:33):
Okay.
Jaime (10:33):
So, maybe when mom says it's okay.
Yeah, that might be a good timewhen mom says it's okay.
All right.
So why do you want your ownmakeup?
Cause I have makeup you can messwith.
You can play with what now?
Why do you want your own again?
Samantha (10:47):
I have no idea.
Jaime (10:49):
She'd previously told me that she wanted some of her own
makeup because she wanted somemore vibrant colors.
She had seen that mascara isactually made in more than just
black, and she likes some of thebrighter eyeshadows that she's
seen.
Is that true?
Samantha (11:08):
Yes.
Jaime (11:10):
What are your favorite colors for your face?
Samantha (11:13):
Blue and purple.
Jaime (11:14):
Blue and purple.
Excellent.
And green.
Now these are for your eyes.
These colors?
Samantha (11:18):
Yeah.
Jaime (11:20):
How are you learning to apply your makeup?
Samantha (11:23):
From watching you from watching me?
Jaime (11:25):
Oh, that's so sweet.
I have shown them a couple oftechniques, but I think they get
in their experiment with eachother too.
I did show them some tricks.
Mascara, which they currently doown their, their own mascara
because I, as I mentioned, Idon't like to share some of
those more intimate eyeproducts.
Now this is, this is animportant question.
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Why is it important to wash ourface every night before bed,
especially when we wear makeup?
Samantha (11:55):
Because oils can develop on your face.
Jaime (11:57):
Oils can develop on your face.
Even though it's clean makeup,you still don't wanna leave
those excess particles on yourface at night.
You want your skin to breathenaturally, and If you wake up in
the morning without washing offyour makeup, you'll also look
like a clown in the morning.
Right?
you don't wanna like clown inthe morning?
So it's important that you washyour face every night.
(12:18):
And if you haven't yet developthat habit, when you wear
makeup, you have to wash yourface before bed, correct?
Samantha (12:27):
Correct.
Jaime (12:27):
Yeah.
That's so that's a rule.
We have yet to wash your facebefore bed and they use my face
cleanser right now.
Eventually they might be gettingtheir own when they get some
makeup.
How do you feel about theagreement that we've made about
getting your own makeup?
What is our agreement?
You pay for half.
We pay for half.
Samantha (12:45):
Mm-hmm.
Jaime (12:46):
So as I mentioned, we split the cost for it.
Now, why do we split the costfor the.
Samantha (12:51):
I don't know.
Jaime (12:51):
I think she's a little camera shy, even though we're
just talking into the mic here.
But, the conversation that I hadwith them, as I mentioned
before, was that if they let mepick out the brands so that I
can trust that what they'reputting on their face is safe
for them and it's clean beauty.
then they have the freedom tochoose colors, and I will agree
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to split the cost of it withthem, because sometimes the
cleaner beauty items withoutharmful chemicals can be a
little bit more expensive.
However, it will last longer andit is quality over quantity.
So I am here with my daughterand her friends, ages nine and
10.
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Nine.
And she's 10, correct?
I mean, I'm not, I'm 10 andshe's nine.
Uncorrect.
And we're gonna talk a littlebit about the tween years and
the desire for to wear makeup.
So why do you girls wanna wearmakeup?
Remi (13:50):
Well, because one, that's, it gives them excuse to be
stylish.
Two.
Well, you can just dress up withit.
And three, it gets you like allfancy up for something.
Lilly (13:59):
I like to dress up a lot, while I'm by myself.
I really don't use makeupotherwise, but, I really, really
like, to dress, dress up cuzit's so much fun.
and it makes me feel betterabout myself in some ways.
Same.
Well, how does it make you feelbetter about yourself?
Cuz you know you're beautifulalready.
Mm-hmm.
But it makes me feel like I'm, Idon't know.
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It just, it just makes me feelbad.
I have no.
No, I'm just curious.
So what does it, does it makeyou feel more pretty when you
look in the mirror?
Or you can just feel adifference about your body when
you're wearing it without evenlooking in the mirror?
It makes me feel a difference inmy body.
So when you're wearing makeup,you know you're wearing it.
You don't forget you're wearingit.
Sometimes I forget, You forgetyou're wearing it.
I, I think I feel the differenceand I feel like I'm growing when
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I'm older, probably.
Yeah, it makes me feel like whenI put makeup on, it makes me
feel like, like I'm like gettingolder as I wear makeup more.
So Why do you wanna feel older?
Well, because lots of people sayyou are too young to do this or
like that.
And we and there's lots of stuffwe wanna do that we have to have
someone to watch us or we haveto.
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we have to be like a baby, wehave to have a babysitter or
something like that.
And we think that we're too oldfor that stuff.
So, it ma, when we make wearmakeup, it makes us feel, more
mature.
So you wanna feel more mature,but do you want the
responsibilities that come withmaturity?
I think, I think wearing makeupgets you to feel like you're
just the right age with theright amount of maturities, cuz
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it doesn't make you feel tooold, but not too young.
Yeah.
It comes with a good amount ofmaturities, but it also, you can
do a fair amount more.
So like, let's say if you are 50years or.
and I'm wear makeup and I'm 50years or above then, and it
makes me feel younger when Iwear makeup.
But if I'm like 10 or younger, Ilike, I feel older, a little bit
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older, like let's say 14 becauselike, well it's, it just makes
me more like.
Like one time when I woreearrings, it made me look like,
I think I was like seven maybe,and I wore earrings and I
looked, maybe, looked like I waslike three years later.
So is that what people tell youor that's what you see when you
look in the mirror?
That's what I see when I look inthe mirror.
Jaime (16:15):
Okay.
So are you ever concerned thatother people might see you as
being a little bit older andexpect more from you?
Lilly (16:20):
Not really.
I think I can handle a lot ofthe maturities that come with it
and the expectations.
Remi (16:27):
Wait, what was the question?
Jaime (16:28):
So I'll rephrase it and I'll just share with you, as a
mama, we set boundaries or I setboundaries as, as your mom to
not let you go beyond what Ithink you're ready for,
emotionally or physical.
So when you wear makeup as anine year old who has no
interest in boys, you mightactually make someone think that
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you're older than you really areand get the attraction of boys
for the wrong reasons.
That would make you feel reallyuncomfortable and you wouldn't
know to do with.
Sometimes women do wear makeupto get attraction from boys.
Is that why you do.
Lilly & Remi (17:03):
No.
Jaime (17:03):
You do it because it makes you feel better about
yourself?
I think that is the reason weshould wear makeup.
Not to look good for otherpeople.
To make us feel good aboutourselves.
You just said one of the reasonsyou don't wear makeup outside of
the house is because, I don'twant attraction from other
people.
I just wanna feel better aboutmyself sometimes.
Okay.
So it's fun to play dress upand, and you feel like pretty, I
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have my next question.
You ready for it?
Yes.
How did you first learn aboutmakeup?
What made you wanna startwearing it?
Other than them looking olderMaturity thing?
Did you see mom wear it?
Did you see it on tv?
So, I don't really remember, butI think it was, one time when I
was like, Two or one.
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I went in my parents' bedrooms,and I found makeup and I was
like, I'm gonna have, And I did.
And it was all over my face.
And yeah.
So sometimes you need practicewith makeup or you won't.
I, or yoga, I think I found out,I've known about it for a long,
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long time because of just, weused to have this TV where there
was a lot of commercial, a lotof commercials, and they shared
a lot of beauty products andyeah, they do.
Awesome.
If, like, if kids, why can'tgirls wear makeup?
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Like if they want to.
So what I'm trying to ask is whydo parents not let girls like,
their child use makeup?
Just because they're too young?.
Let me try and explain it.
You may not agree because youare in a place where you're
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exploring life and trying tobranch out of your little
butterfly cocoon where moms anddads aren't in a place where
we've sprung it over cocoon.
We've gone out into the worldand now we've had babies.
God's gifted us with childrenand we wanna protect them and
keep them in their cocoon aslong as possible.
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when it comes to makeup forgirls in particular, it can
sometimes make them look olderthan they really are.
Okay?
There's, there's a few things.
Make'em look older than theyare.
Attract the wrong people for thewrong reasons, and you're
putting more products on yourbody, so you're giving yourself
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the opportunity to be exposed tomore.
So if you're not using safeproducts that don't have harmful
chemicals in'em, then you'reactually starting at a younger
age building up some negativecompounds in your body that are
gonna stay with you forever orfor a limited time.
But if you keep using them, theywill keep building before your
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body can excrete them again.
Well, can't you just use, likemakeup without any chemicals?
That is what we're talking abouttoday, to find makeup without
chemicals, and I'm glad youbrought that up because I have a
deal with my girls, as Imentioned before, and I'm gonna
remind it for the sake of thisconversation, that they're ready
for makeup.
It's something that they want, not need.
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As a mama, I provide everythingthey need, but when it comes to
a want, it's theirresponsibility.
Okay?
So they want clothes, I'll getthem clothes.
They want designer clothes.
They need to save their moneyfor those designer brands.
Okay.
I will provide them witheverything they need.
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Is make up a need or a want?
Lilly (20:40):
A want.
Remi (20:40):
A need.
Jaime (20:42):
Are you sure?
It's a need.
Yeah.
Okay.
So as a mom, I think it's awant.
All right.
So as you had a kid, me thinkit's a need.
I thought it was a want.
Okay.
Well, thank you.
So we have a little bit of abalance here.
Yeah.
And how do you feel about thatagreement?
Remi (21:02):
Well, I feel good, but he never asked me that.
And, also, it's hard cuz I wantmakeup, but I also wanna save up
for colleague so I can get, so Ican have my a dr.
Like I can have a job, I canhave like all those things.
And then when I'm done with,that I can, that I can like buy
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house, I can have like a familyand stuff.
Jaime (21:32):
Well, I love that you have so much forward thinking
and I try to encourage you to bein the moment and stay in today
at nine years old.
You don't need to worry about somuch, but I do love that you're
considering those things in thelong run.
How about you, sweetie?
Lilly (21:43):
Personally, I really do.
I really not most of, much of aspender, and so I mostly wait
until the December time, whichmy birthday and Christmas and
everything is in.
And so I, so that's whenever Iget my makeup, but I've never
really thought about checkingthe product.
(22:06):
A very good idea.
Jaime (22:07):
Have you ever thought about checking the ingredients
or what the ingredients mean?
Lilly (22:11):
Not really, but they're always, My mom lets me use them
and she probably knows best forme.
So I'm guessing they're, They'refor children and they're also
for children?
Jaime (22:22):
Mm-hmm.
Lilly (22:23):
So I'm guessing that they're fine..
All right,
Jaime (22:25):
so I think it's important to trust your mom.
You should always trust your momthat your parents are your first
go-to when it comes to life.
Okay, so ladies, if you couldpick any colors for makeup or
any specific makeup.
What is your dream makeuppalette as a tween?
Like, do you want lipstick,blush, eyeshadow, mascara?
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what colors do you like?
Like what excites you we'regonna go here first.
Lilly (22:54):
Well, I like eye shadow the most.
And I think I really like alighter paint, so it gives your
eyes a tint, but it's not likeoverpowering crazy.
Jaime (23:06):
Not too drastic.
All right, so more of a, a soft,neutral color is the what you
like.
So eyeshadows, do you like lips,lip color or anything?
Lilly (23:15):
I really.
lipstick and stuff, and I do goa little bit crazy with that,
but just the classic red andpink and stuff.
Mm-hmm.
but I do get really bright withit.
Yeah.
Well, I'll say both of you girlshave been gifted with beautiful
full lips, so no matter what youwear, I imagine it's gorgeous.
(23:36):
For sure.
Jaime (23:37):
Colors, particular parts of the face that you'd like to
highlight?
Is it blush?
Is it lipstick?
Is it eyeshadow?
Is it mascara?
Remi (23:43):
So the color I would use is all colors.
All the colors like the blacksand the grays, or the rainbow
colors, like the rainbow colors.
Jaime (23:53):
So the soft rainbow colors and the bright rainbow
colors?
Remi (23:56):
More like bright.
But I also, But let's say likeif it was, I, no, what's it
called again?
There's eyeshadow and there'seyeliner.
And there's mascara.
Mascara, Okay.
so if it, let's say if it wasmascara, I usually go with
black.
Jaime (24:13):
You think so?
Yeah.
But all the other things I'd usefor the other guys and then the
makeup, I'd probably choose allof them because I love to put.
Except for blush, because Ialready look like I have so much
blush on.
Yeah, you've got a beautifulnatural hue to your cheeks.
(24:35):
I don't think you need it yet.
So I don't think I would needblush.
So a little bit of eyes shadowblack mascara.
Remi (24:43):
And then, and then I would do lipstick, eyeliner.
I wanna try eyeliner.
Jaime (24:49):
Well, you kinda need to get your own eyeliner for that,
so it's something.
We can work on, we can decide ona brand that works, and then a
color.
Now lipstick.
Do you like bright or neutral?
Neutral's, like natural innature.
Bright is, colors in a rainbow.
And I would say that, what wouldbe the word for the lighter
colors?
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Pastel soft.
So it's pastel, which is like asoft bright, and there's
rainbow, which is like a bright,bright.
Remi (25:15):
So it depends if I'm like, let's say if I was dressing up
as like a rock star or somethinglike that.
Mm-hmm.
I would probably do a darkcolor.
Jaime (25:25):
So on stage you want dark colors,
Remi (25:27):
but like only I was like a rock star.
Right.
But if I was.
A happy pop star or something.
I probably do bright colors.
Okay, well see.
Jaime (25:36):
Oh, a mad rock star has dark and a happy pop.
Star has light.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
What is, what do you have?
What you're aspiring to be a popstar or a rock star?
Probably, I mean, like, itdepends if I'm dressed, if I,
what I'm going to be like if I'mdressing up as anyone.
Well, let's just say you're athome and you're with your
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girlfriends and you're puttingon your favorite outfit
probably, and putting on mommy'shigh heels, what color of lips
shade would you choose?
Probably like between, dark.
You know, Well that's, that'spretty vague, but we'll take it.
I really agree with her on theblack mascara cuz it really
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highlights what color theyactually are.
And I also think that, a littlebit of what Wena was trying to
say was, that, emotions reallyaffect your palette and your
color choices.
Yeah.
I love that.
So the emotions about whatyou're portraying when you're on
(26:38):
stage?
Yeah.
Like when the music and theemotions all tie together and
that's, you want to equate theemotions you're portraying with
the colors you're wearing.
That's so insightful for both ofyou.
Such wisdom at a young age.
I love it.
And I'm inspir.
I thank you both for taking thetime today, to be honest with
(26:58):
me.
Did you have fun?
Mm-hmm.
Remi (27:01):
Yes, but it would be more fun if I got, if I got tween
makeup for free.
Gotcha.
Okay.
So by the way, if you out therewhy don't you get every girl can
that's under, that's 10 or undermakeup.
Yeah.
So they can enjoy it and pretendto be someone else, and, about
(27:26):
yourself.
And this eco Mama will take thatone step further and say that it
needs to be clean tween makeupwith clean ingredients.
Fun, bright colors, but no badingredients.
Oh, one last question.
I'm so sorry.
One last question.
The most important thing in myopinion, aside from not wearing
it outside of the house, iswashing your face.
(27:49):
What is the rule of washing yourface and how do you feel about
that?
So I don't, one thing, if I dolike, eyeshadow on my eyes, and
I'm like, I don't, I wanna getthat off.
And I do, like, there's this, Iuse a wrap and then there's this
place clean.
I put it, I put like one dot onthe rag and then rub it with my
(28:12):
eyes, and then it just gets inmy eye.
So I don't really write likethat.
Roll.
But then my mommy got me, my momgot me a, like soft rag that can
you just put water on it?
But with your eyes, and it won'tget, and it won't get in your
eyes.
Jaime (28:32):
Have you tried using that yet?
No.
Now, do you think it's importantto wash your face before bed?
Remi (28:37):
Yes, because if you don't wash your makeup on off your
face before you go to sleep,then in the morning you'll
probably get pimples andpimples.
They're kind of fun.
Jaime (28:51):
They're what?
They're kind of fun.
You get to pop'em but when doyou pop?
It's not that good.
Okay.
And for you.
I think I always use a rag andthen water and I read really
good.
Lilly (29:06):
And sometimes I'll even get one of my little contact
mirrors and when I get showerthat night, wash it off and I
will make sure I get all of itoff before bed and before
school, because you're notallowed to wear makeup in.
So do you wash your makeup offbecause you're not allowed to
wear it in school the next day,or because you think it's
(29:26):
important to do it before you goto bed?
Definitely both.
Same.
You shouldn't, you shouldn't doit.
Even though, even if you put itin the morning, then you still
wanna wash it off before school.
Yeah.
And how do you feel about that?
Remi (29:40):
Except for middle school?
If you're going to middleschool, you can wear.
Lilly (29:43):
I really don't have many thoughts about it.
I think it's a good rule and itreally helps to make sure that
it doesn't smear and you get,you don't get in pimples and,
and you make sure you don't getin trouble.
Jaime (29:58):
Yeah.
from, from mom for sure, right?
Both.
Both, Yeah.
And then you said, So Remi hadsaid sometimes pimples are fun
cause you get to pop'em, butthey're not so fun because it
can be gross.
Lilly (30:12):
And then you said also when you have pimples, if you
pop'em something else, it'sgross about'em.
They bleed,
Remi (30:18):
they can bleed?
They can bleed into also, theycan immediate, if you don't wash
them well after that, they'lljust keep, yes they can go back.
And then also another negativeside effect of pimples if you're
popping them, which is never.
You could get sepsis.
So what happens is the oils thatcause the pimples and you pop
it, that dirt can actually goback into the open wound and get
(30:40):
into your bloodstream and makeyou sick.
That can happen.
So you don't wanna pop pimples.
Do you just wait drasticallysick, or is it drastic?
I've never been sick from it,and I've popped a few pimples in
my.
Some people have been even asadults, and they pop.
I still get pimples as an adult.
I get one a month.
(31:01):
Yeah, but how bad do you thinkthe sickness is?
So it's different for everyindividual.
I think the best thing is not topop them.
Definitely it's most importantto keep your skin clean.
All right?
So keep your skin clean.
It's not just your skin though.
Your hormones are gonna change.
You're gonna get pim.
No matter what, you can minimizethe pimples by cleaning your
(31:22):
face and by eating a healthydiet and drinking lots of water.
So let's say if you got pimplesyes.
And you didn't pop, would theyjust, and you wait like.
Jaime (31:33):
Thank you ladies so much for your time today.
I hope you had fun with thisinterview cause I know I did and
I hope you've helped other mamasand other girls navigate this
tween transition with makeup..
Lilly (31:45):
We really hopely help them make better choices when
we're, when they get to the agewhere they wear makeup.
Remi (31:53):
So I think you should be grateful for what you have, and
it's okay if you don't have anymakeup.
It's just as long as you haveclean products to keep you safe
there, awesome.
And we hope you enjoyed ourvideo today,
Lilly (32:11):
And we hope you, we hope to pick out clean products and
have you use them.
Remi (32:17):
Yes.
And remember it don't use makeupbecause, you think you'll, you
think people will like youbetter cuz that.
It matters about how you feeland not let, and not how other
people feel about you.
Jaime (32:33):
Oh, it was so fun talking to these girls.
Their personalities are sodifferent too.
I'm really excited for them forthis next chapter of their life.
I cringe a little bit at all theinsecurity I had at that age,
and I pray they never feel thosefeelings.
They're pretty confident girls,but I know that puberty's gonna
(32:56):
hit really soon and things aregonna change.
I just pray that I developrelationships with them strong
enough that they can come to mewhen they're struggling.
And that I'm wise enough tolisten and not so quick to jump
on giving advice or telling themwhat they need to do.
I tell you my best friends thathave had the biggest impact in
(33:20):
my life are those that just knowhow to ask me the right
questions, so, so that I cansearch for the answers myself,
and I pray that I can evolveinto that wise parent as well.
Thank you so much for tuning intoday.
This was a great episode.
I hope you have something totake away.
(33:40):
I wish you the best of luck ifyou're on the same leg of your
journey in parenthood as I amright now, and if you are,
goodness, reach out to me.
Let's compare notes and see howwe can better the circumstances
for the years we have ahead ofus.
This Friday.
I'm gonna do a deep dive onballets.
(34:02):
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But I will go through whatphthalates are, what they're
commonly found in, why we striveto avoid them in ingredients we
use in our own family and whyyou should consider avoiding
them too.
Thank you so much.
I hope you have a wonderful weekand I look forward to connecting
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with me.
Hello Eco Mamas.
Today's topic is all abouttweens, so if you have children,
especially girls, and they arekind of coming of age, this will
be a good topic for you.
I have a nine year old daughterand an 11 year old daughter, and
(00:57):
they have been curious about mymakeup probably since they
started trying on my high heelswhen they were two years old
walking around in them.
and they would just play littledress up here and there, but I
never really let them wearmakeup quotation marks in the
air there.
And still to this day, they'renot allowed to wear it outside
(01:17):
of the house, but with theirages and their curiosities, they
are starting to play more andmore with it.
They have been begging me fortheir own makeup now for six or
eight months.
Jaime (01:30):
And I was like, Why can't you just use mine?
You, you're fine with usingmine.
My rule is that they can playdress up with my things.
They may not use my mascara, butthey can play dress up with all
my other makeup as long as theyleave my bathroom better than
they found it and they returneverything where they found it.
When their friends come over,they will give each other
makeovers in my bathroom, whichis totally fine.
(01:53):
It's absolutely precious.
They practice putting makeup oneach other and then they have to
wash their face either before weleave the house to get all the
makeup off or before they go tobed, and I just stress the
importance of doing that withthem.
Now that they want their ownmakeup, I had to have the
conversation with them cuz as anEco Mama, I'm very particular
(02:16):
about the products that we usein our home, especially the
products that my children use onthemselves.
This is the first time wherethey're looking for something.
Outside of what I na normallyprovide for them, like I'll buy
them toothpaste that I approveof and shampoos and body washes
and soaps, and hand soaps, andactually deodorant.
(02:37):
Now they have deodorant in theirlittle arsenal of tween life.
I wanted to help them understandwhy going to the local drug
store or buying something at thegrocery store for makeup, just
because the colors are prettyand the marketing is great, and
it says it's for tweens.
It may not be this safestsolution for their makeup needs.
(03:00):
And that is because of theingredients of those products.
It's not to say that everythingin those stores is bad.
By no means.
I deal with products based oneby one by one, but it's very
rare that I can find somethingthat.
Meets my stringent selectionprocess for clean ingredients at
a CVS or a Walgreens or Walmart,or sometimes even Target.
(03:22):
They have these aisles that aremarketed for clean beauty or
cleaner beauty, but you stillgotta take that individual
product and turn it over andlook at the list of ingredients.
I made a proposal to mydaughters.
I shared with them that we couldstart purchasing makeup for
them.
My method of parenting is that Iwill always provide what my
(03:47):
children.
What they need will be given tothem by their mother and father.
They need clothes, they needfood, they need love.
They don't need designer jeans.
They may want designer jeans,but they don't need them.
They may want name brand things,but when it comes to what I
(04:09):
provide for them, what I pay fora hundred percent with our
money, it's the things that theyneed.
Now.
We'll compromise on some otherstuff.
If they really want it, maybewe'll meet'em halfway.
But they earn an allowance.
They do chores, they earn anallowance, they get birthday
money.
They're great at saving all ofthat.
When it comes to things thatthey want, that is their
(04:30):
responsibility.
With makeup is something theywant.
It's not anything they need.
I will buy their shampoo, theirconditioner, their toothpaste,
I'll even do body lotion, likethese are things I see as kind
of needs, but when it comes tomakeup, that's a total wants in
my category.
And they understand that.
They understand that completely.
What I proposed to them was thatI would pay for half of the cost
(04:55):
of their makeup if they chose touse the brands that I selected
for them.
They had complete discretion asto.
What colors they would purchase.
They could do their favoritecolors.
They just must use the brandsthat I approve because I want
them to use safe ingredients.
I don't want them putting muckon their face that is, has got
(05:16):
stuff that's gonna cause skinproblems or any more deep seated
issues.
Just want clean beauty for mybabies.
So they agreed to it.
They now.
Mascara, which was really coolbecause I would never let them
use mine.
I learned a long time ago, andmaybe this is real, maybe this
isn't, I'm not sure, but I wastold that it's easy to transfer
(05:40):
any, like eye issues.
EYE funk with mascara, and sothat's something that you should
never share with anyone.
That should be an individualuse.
I've never let them use mymasra.
I was out one day at Garners,which is a natural store where I
get some of our vitamins from,and they had a few makeup lines
there, and one of them was MadHippy.
(06:01):
Mad Hippy is a brand I've heardgreat things about, but I'd
never personally used it.
I was like, Huh.
Let me try their mascara.
So I bought two of the mascara'sand I brought'em home, and I put
'em in a little gift bag for mygirls.
And when they got home fromschool, I said, I, I have a
surprise for you.
I've bought you something, butif you don't want it, we can
(06:22):
easily return it because this issomething that falls under an
agreement.
They opened it.
They absolutely loved it.
They were super excited.
The price was$18.99, so$19.
So I just, I rounded.
I said, All right, now I paid 20for each.
And you, if you wanna keep it,you have to give me 10.
But there's no obligation.
(06:43):
If you don't wanna pay for this,then I will return it.
It's not a big deal.
And they both were so excited.
They went, got out their littlejars of cash, gave me 10 bucks
each, and went upstairs andstarted putting mascara on and
bless their hearts.
My 11 year old got it onperfect.
The first try.
My nine year old kept likestabbing her eyeball with the
(07:04):
wand So we, we took some timeand I showed them like some
proper application and.
Curling their lashes as theyapply it and how to try not to
get it into the eye, and thenher sister helped her too.
Needless to say, they now havemascara and that is their first
(07:24):
item in their collection forbeauty.
Part of this tween episode is tointerview a couple tweens to
talk to them.
What good is helping themnavigate the world, makeup and
skincare, if you don't get theirfeedback, you wanna understand
their motives, you wannaunderstand what they're looking
for.
I think that's just part ofparenting too.
(07:46):
You have to try and understandyour audience in life.
When it comes to parenting, youwanna see what your child wants
and needs, and then you can helpthem navigate because they're
gonna have to eventually makeall those decisions for
themselves.
I am interviewing my 11 year olddaughter about her desires and
(08:07):
interest in the world of makeup.
The questions (08:09):
first one is, do you think that you are ready to
wear makeup?
Samantha (08:17):
I'm not sure, but I would like to try it.
Jaime (08:20):
Why do you want to try it?
I have no idea.
Is it beauty thing or is itbecause you've seen it on TV or
because friends at school arewearing it?
Samantha (08:32):
I have no idea.
Jaime (08:33):
So she's not really sure why, but she knows that she is
interested in it and.
Enjoys applying it.
Is that correct?
Samantha (08:40):
Yeah, like with dress up and friends and stuff.
Jaime (08:42):
So she'll spend some time in my bathroom going through my
makeup and they take turnsbeautifying each other with
colors.
So what is mom's current rulearound makeup?
Can you share that with theaudience?
Samantha (08:55):
You can use it for dress up as long as you clean it
up afterwards and never wear itto school..
Jaime (09:00):
And, I'm not really a big fan of wearing it outside the
house.
Is that correct?
Samantha (09:05):
Yes.
Jaime (09:05):
So right now at this age, she is my oldest.
She's 11 and her sister is nine,who's even more into it than she
is.
I highly discourage them wearingoutside of the house.
It's not an absolute rule.
Every now and again, if theysneak out a little lip gloss
when we're going to the store,it's fine, but definitely not to
school.
(09:27):
Like not out and about, justit's something that they want to
experiment with at home, that isabsolutely fine with me.
Do you understand why momdoesn't want you to wear it out
of the house?
No.
Part of the reason that I don'twant them to wear it out of the
house is just because it doesmake them look older than they,
than they are.
Samantha (09:45):
Mm-hmm.
Jaime (09:46):
And, I don't think that's healthy.
I don't want them to be outthere and someone treating them
like a teenager when they'restill emotionally and physically
developing as a tween.
And I definitely don't want themto be approached by someone that
might have ulterior motivesbecause they think they're
beautiful and older.
Like stranger danger.
Samantha (10:08):
That's danger.
Jaime (10:10):
What'd you say?
Samantha (10:11):
I said that's danger.
Jaime (10:12):
That's dangerous.
Yes, it is.
When will you be ready to wearmakeup out of the house?
Samantha (10:17):
Never.
Jaime (10:18):
Never?
I doubt that's true.
I'm sure there will be a timeand a place then 40.
45.
We'll transition into it.
She's also my very mature one.
This Samantha here.
Samantha (10:33):
Okay.
Jaime (10:33):
So, maybe when mom says it's okay.
Yeah, that might be a good timewhen mom says it's okay.
All right.
So why do you want your ownmakeup?
Cause I have makeup you can messwith.
You can play with what now?
Why do you want your own again?
Samantha (10:47):
I have no idea.
Jaime (10:49):
She'd previously told me that she wanted some of her own
makeup because she wanted somemore vibrant colors.
She had seen that mascara isactually made in more than just
black, and she likes some of thebrighter eyeshadows that she's
seen.
Is that true?
Samantha (11:08):
Yes.
Jaime (11:10):
What are your favorite colors for your face?
Samantha (11:13):
Blue and purple.
Jaime (11:14):
Blue and purple.
Excellent.
And green.
Now these are for your eyes.
These colors?
Samantha (11:18):
Yeah.
Jaime (11:20):
How are you learning to apply your makeup?
Samantha (11:23):
From watching you from watching me?
Jaime (11:25):
Oh, that's so sweet.
I have shown them a couple oftechniques, but I think they get
in their experiment with eachother too.
I did show them some tricks.
Mascara, which they currently doown their, their own mascara
because I, as I mentioned, Idon't like to share some of
those more intimate eyeproducts.
Now this is, this is animportant question.
(11:48):
Why is it important to wash ourface every night before bed,
especially when we wear makeup?
Samantha (11:55):
Because oils can develop on your face.
Jaime (11:57):
Oils can develop on your face.
Even though it's clean makeup,you still don't wanna leave
those excess particles on yourface at night.
You want your skin to breathenaturally, and If you wake up in
the morning without washing offyour makeup, you'll also look
like a clown in the morning.
Right?
you don't wanna like clown inthe morning?
So it's important that you washyour face every night.
(12:18):
And if you haven't yet developthat habit, when you wear
makeup, you have to wash yourface before bed, correct?
Samantha (12:27):
Correct.
Jaime (12:27):
Yeah.
That's so that's a rule.
We have yet to wash your facebefore bed and they use my face
cleanser right now.
Eventually they might be gettingtheir own when they get some
makeup.
How do you feel about theagreement that we've made about
getting your own makeup?
What is our agreement?
You pay for half.
We pay for half.
Samantha (12:45):
Mm-hmm.
Jaime (12:46):
So as I mentioned, we split the cost for it.
Now, why do we split the costfor the.
Samantha (12:51):
I don't know.
Jaime (12:51):
I think she's a little camera shy, even though we're
just talking into the mic here.
But, the conversation that I hadwith them, as I mentioned
before, was that if they let mepick out the brands so that I
can trust that what they'reputting on their face is safe
for them and it's clean beauty.
then they have the freedom tochoose colors, and I will agree
(13:14):
to split the cost of it withthem, because sometimes the
cleaner beauty items withoutharmful chemicals can be a
little bit more expensive.
However, it will last longer andit is quality over quantity.
So I am here with my daughterand her friends, ages nine and
10.
(13:34):
Nine.
And she's 10, correct?
I mean, I'm not, I'm 10 andshe's nine.
Uncorrect.
And we're gonna talk a littlebit about the tween years and
the desire for to wear makeup.
So why do you girls wanna wearmakeup?
Remi (13:50):
Well, because one, that's, it gives them excuse to be
stylish.
Two.
Well, you can just dress up withit.
And three, it gets you like allfancy up for something.
Lilly (13:59):
I like to dress up a lot, while I'm by myself.
I really don't use makeupotherwise, but, I really, really
like, to dress, dress up cuzit's so much fun.
and it makes me feel betterabout myself in some ways.
Same.
Well, how does it make you feelbetter about yourself?
Cuz you know you're beautifulalready.
Mm-hmm.
But it makes me feel like I'm, Idon't know.
(14:22):
It just, it just makes me feelbad.
I have no.
No, I'm just curious.
So what does it, does it makeyou feel more pretty when you
look in the mirror?
Or you can just feel adifference about your body when
you're wearing it without evenlooking in the mirror?
It makes me feel a difference inmy body.
So when you're wearing makeup,you know you're wearing it.
You don't forget you're wearingit.
Sometimes I forget, You forgetyou're wearing it.
I, I think I feel the differenceand I feel like I'm growing when
(14:45):
I'm older, probably.
Yeah, it makes me feel like whenI put makeup on, it makes me
feel like, like I'm like gettingolder as I wear makeup more.
So Why do you wanna feel older?
Well, because lots of people sayyou are too young to do this or
like that.
And we and there's lots of stuffwe wanna do that we have to have
someone to watch us or we haveto.
(15:07):
we have to be like a baby, wehave to have a babysitter or
something like that.
And we think that we're too oldfor that stuff.
So, it ma, when we make wearmakeup, it makes us feel, more
mature.
So you wanna feel more mature,but do you want the
responsibilities that come withmaturity?
I think, I think wearing makeupgets you to feel like you're
just the right age with theright amount of maturities, cuz
(15:31):
it doesn't make you feel tooold, but not too young.
Yeah.
It comes with a good amount ofmaturities, but it also, you can
do a fair amount more.
So like, let's say if you are 50years or.
and I'm wear makeup and I'm 50years or above then, and it
makes me feel younger when Iwear makeup.
But if I'm like 10 or younger, Ilike, I feel older, a little bit
(15:54):
older, like let's say 14 becauselike, well it's, it just makes
me more like.
Like one time when I woreearrings, it made me look like,
I think I was like seven maybe,and I wore earrings and I
looked, maybe, looked like I waslike three years later.
So is that what people tell youor that's what you see when you
look in the mirror?
That's what I see when I look inthe mirror.
Jaime (16:15):
Okay.
So are you ever concerned thatother people might see you as
being a little bit older andexpect more from you?
Lilly (16:20):
Not really.
I think I can handle a lot ofthe maturities that come with it
and the expectations.
Remi (16:27):
Wait, what was the question?
Jaime (16:28):
So I'll rephrase it and I'll just share with you, as a
mama, we set boundaries or I setboundaries as, as your mom to
not let you go beyond what Ithink you're ready for,
emotionally or physical.
So when you wear makeup as anine year old who has no
interest in boys, you mightactually make someone think that
(16:50):
you're older than you really areand get the attraction of boys
for the wrong reasons.
That would make you feel reallyuncomfortable and you wouldn't
know to do with.
Sometimes women do wear makeupto get attraction from boys.
Is that why you do.
Lilly & Remi (17:03):
No.
Jaime (17:03):
You do it because it makes you feel better about
yourself?
I think that is the reason weshould wear makeup.
Not to look good for otherpeople.
To make us feel good aboutourselves.
You just said one of the reasonsyou don't wear makeup outside of
the house is because, I don'twant attraction from other
people.
I just wanna feel better aboutmyself sometimes.
Okay.
So it's fun to play dress upand, and you feel like pretty, I
(17:25):
have my next question.
You ready for it?
Yes.
How did you first learn aboutmakeup?
What made you wanna startwearing it?
Other than them looking olderMaturity thing?
Did you see mom wear it?
Did you see it on tv?
So, I don't really remember, butI think it was, one time when I
was like, Two or one.
(17:48):
I went in my parents' bedrooms,and I found makeup and I was
like, I'm gonna have, And I did.
And it was all over my face.
And yeah.
So sometimes you need practicewith makeup or you won't.
I, or yoga, I think I found out,I've known about it for a long,
(18:11):
long time because of just, weused to have this TV where there
was a lot of commercial, a lotof commercials, and they shared
a lot of beauty products andyeah, they do.
Awesome.
If, like, if kids, why can'tgirls wear makeup?
(18:32):
Like if they want to.
So what I'm trying to ask is whydo parents not let girls like,
their child use makeup?
Just because they're too young?.
Let me try and explain it.
You may not agree because youare in a place where you're
(18:52):
exploring life and trying tobranch out of your little
butterfly cocoon where moms anddads aren't in a place where
we've sprung it over cocoon.
We've gone out into the worldand now we've had babies.
God's gifted us with childrenand we wanna protect them and
keep them in their cocoon aslong as possible.
(19:12):
when it comes to makeup forgirls in particular, it can
sometimes make them look olderthan they really are.
Okay?
There's, there's a few things.
Make'em look older than theyare.
Attract the wrong people for thewrong reasons, and you're
putting more products on yourbody, so you're giving yourself
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the opportunity to be exposed tomore.
So if you're not using safeproducts that don't have harmful
chemicals in'em, then you'reactually starting at a younger
age building up some negativecompounds in your body that are
gonna stay with you forever orfor a limited time.
But if you keep using them, theywill keep building before your
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body can excrete them again.
Well, can't you just use, likemakeup without any chemicals?
That is what we're talking abouttoday, to find makeup without
chemicals, and I'm glad youbrought that up because I have a
deal with my girls, as Imentioned before, and I'm gonna
remind it for the sake of thisconversation, that they're ready
for makeup.
It's something that they want, not need.
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As a mama, I provide everythingthey need, but when it comes to
a want, it's theirresponsibility.
Okay?
So they want clothes, I'll getthem clothes.
They want designer clothes.
They need to save their moneyfor those designer brands.
Okay.
I will provide them witheverything they need.
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Is make up a need or a want?
Lilly (20:40):
A want.
Remi (20:40):
A need.
Jaime (20:42):
Are you sure?
It's a need.
Yeah.
Okay.
So as a mom, I think it's awant.
All right.
So as you had a kid, me thinkit's a need.
I thought it was a want.
Okay.
Well, thank you.
So we have a little bit of abalance here.
Yeah.
And how do you feel about thatagreement?
Remi (21:02):
Well, I feel good, but he never asked me that.
And, also, it's hard cuz I wantmakeup, but I also wanna save up
for colleague so I can get, so Ican have my a dr.
Like I can have a job, I canhave like all those things.
And then when I'm done with,that I can, that I can like buy
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house, I can have like a familyand stuff.
Jaime (21:32):
Well, I love that you have so much forward thinking
and I try to encourage you to bein the moment and stay in today
at nine years old.
You don't need to worry about somuch, but I do love that you're
considering those things in thelong run.
How about you, sweetie?
Lilly (21:43):
Personally, I really do.
I really not most of, much of aspender, and so I mostly wait
until the December time, whichmy birthday and Christmas and
everything is in.
And so I, so that's whenever Iget my makeup, but I've never
really thought about checkingthe product.
(22:06):
A very good idea.
Jaime (22:07):
Have you ever thought about checking the ingredients
or what the ingredients mean?
Lilly (22:11):
Not really, but they're always, My mom lets me use them
and she probably knows best forme.
So I'm guessing they're, They'refor children and they're also
for children?
Jaime (22:22):
Mm-hmm.
Lilly (22:23):
So I'm guessing that they're fine..
All right,
Jaime (22:25):
so I think it's important to trust your mom.
You should always trust your momthat your parents are your first
go-to when it comes to life.
Okay, so ladies, if you couldpick any colors for makeup or
any specific makeup.
What is your dream makeuppalette as a tween?
Like, do you want lipstick,blush, eyeshadow, mascara?
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what colors do you like?
Like what excites you we'regonna go here first.
Lilly (22:54):
Well, I like eye shadow the most.
And I think I really like alighter paint, so it gives your
eyes a tint, but it's not likeoverpowering crazy.
Jaime (23:06):
Not too drastic.
All right, so more of a, a soft,neutral color is the what you
like.
So eyeshadows, do you like lips,lip color or anything?
Lilly (23:15):
I really.
lipstick and stuff, and I do goa little bit crazy with that,
but just the classic red andpink and stuff.
Mm-hmm.
but I do get really bright withit.
Yeah.
Well, I'll say both of you girlshave been gifted with beautiful
full lips, so no matter what youwear, I imagine it's gorgeous.
(23:36):
For sure.
Jaime (23:37):
Colors, particular parts of the face that you'd like to
highlight?
Is it blush?
Is it lipstick?
Is it eyeshadow?
Is it mascara?
Remi (23:43):
So the color I would use is all colors.
All the colors like the blacksand the grays, or the rainbow
colors, like the rainbow colors.
Jaime (23:53):
So the soft rainbow colors and the bright rainbow
colors?
Remi (23:56):
More like bright.
But I also, But let's say likeif it was, I, no, what's it
called again?
There's eyeshadow and there'seyeliner.
And there's mascara.
Mascara, Okay.
so if it, let's say if it wasmascara, I usually go with
black.
Jaime (24:13):
You think so?
Yeah.
But all the other things I'd usefor the other guys and then the
makeup, I'd probably choose allof them because I love to put.
Except for blush, because Ialready look like I have so much
blush on.
Yeah, you've got a beautifulnatural hue to your cheeks.
(24:35):
I don't think you need it yet.
So I don't think I would needblush.
So a little bit of eyes shadowblack mascara.
Remi (24:43):
And then, and then I would do lipstick, eyeliner.
I wanna try eyeliner.
Jaime (24:49):
Well, you kinda need to get your own eyeliner for that,
so it's something.
We can work on, we can decide ona brand that works, and then a
color.
Now lipstick.
Do you like bright or neutral?
Neutral's, like natural innature.
Bright is, colors in a rainbow.
And I would say that, what wouldbe the word for the lighter
colors?
(25:09):
Pastel soft.
So it's pastel, which is like asoft bright, and there's
rainbow, which is like a bright,bright.
Remi (25:15):
So it depends if I'm like, let's say if I was dressing up
as like a rock star or somethinglike that.
Mm-hmm.
I would probably do a darkcolor.
Jaime (25:25):
So on stage you want dark colors,
Remi (25:27):
but like only I was like a rock star.
Right.
But if I was.
A happy pop star or something.
I probably do bright colors.
Okay, well see.
Jaime (25:36):
Oh, a mad rock star has dark and a happy pop.
Star has light.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
What is, what do you have?
What you're aspiring to be a popstar or a rock star?
Probably, I mean, like, itdepends if I'm dressed, if I,
what I'm going to be like if I'mdressing up as anyone.
Well, let's just say you're athome and you're with your
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girlfriends and you're puttingon your favorite outfit
probably, and putting on mommy'shigh heels, what color of lips
shade would you choose?
Probably like between, dark.
You know, Well that's, that'spretty vague, but we'll take it.
I really agree with her on theblack mascara cuz it really
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highlights what color theyactually are.
And I also think that, a littlebit of what Wena was trying to
say was, that, emotions reallyaffect your palette and your
color choices.
Yeah.
I love that.
So the emotions about whatyou're portraying when you're on
(26:38):
stage?
Yeah.
Like when the music and theemotions all tie together and
that's, you want to equate theemotions you're portraying with
the colors you're wearing.
That's so insightful for both ofyou.
Such wisdom at a young age.
I love it.
And I'm inspir.
I thank you both for taking thetime today, to be honest with
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me.
Did you have fun?
Mm-hmm.
Remi (27:01):
Yes, but it would be more fun if I got, if I got tween
makeup for free.
Gotcha.
Okay.
So by the way, if you out therewhy don't you get every girl can
that's under, that's 10 or undermakeup.
Yeah.
So they can enjoy it and pretendto be someone else, and, about
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yourself.
And this eco Mama will take thatone step further and say that it
needs to be clean tween makeupwith clean ingredients.
Fun, bright colors, but no badingredients.
Oh, one last question.
I'm so sorry.
One last question.
The most important thing in myopinion, aside from not wearing
it outside of the house, iswashing your face.
(27:49):
What is the rule of washing yourface and how do you feel about
that?
So I don't, one thing, if I dolike, eyeshadow on my eyes, and
I'm like, I don't, I wanna getthat off.
And I do, like, there's this, Iuse a wrap and then there's this
place clean.
I put it, I put like one dot onthe rag and then rub it with my
(28:12):
eyes, and then it just gets inmy eye.
So I don't really write likethat.
Roll.
But then my mommy got me, my momgot me a, like soft rag that can
you just put water on it?
But with your eyes, and it won'tget, and it won't get in your
eyes.
Jaime (28:32):
Have you tried using that yet?
No.
Now, do you think it's importantto wash your face before bed?
Remi (28:37):
Yes, because if you don't wash your makeup on off your
face before you go to sleep,then in the morning you'll
probably get pimples andpimples.
They're kind of fun.
Jaime (28:51):
They're what?
They're kind of fun.
You get to pop'em but when doyou pop?
It's not that good.
Okay.
And for you.
I think I always use a rag andthen water and I read really
good.
Lilly (29:06):
And sometimes I'll even get one of my little contact
mirrors and when I get showerthat night, wash it off and I
will make sure I get all of itoff before bed and before
school, because you're notallowed to wear makeup in.
So do you wash your makeup offbecause you're not allowed to
wear it in school the next day,or because you think it's
(29:26):
important to do it before you goto bed?
Definitely both.
Same.
You shouldn't, you shouldn't doit.
Even though, even if you put itin the morning, then you still
wanna wash it off before school.
Yeah.
And how do you feel about that?
Remi (29:40):
Except for middle school?
If you're going to middleschool, you can wear.
Lilly (29:43):
I really don't have many thoughts about it.
I think it's a good rule and itreally helps to make sure that
it doesn't smear and you get,you don't get in pimples and,
and you make sure you don't getin trouble.
Jaime (29:58):
Yeah.
from, from mom for sure, right?
Both.
Both, Yeah.
And then you said, So Remi hadsaid sometimes pimples are fun
cause you get to pop'em, butthey're not so fun because it
can be gross.
Lilly (30:12):
And then you said also when you have pimples, if you
pop'em something else, it'sgross about'em.
They bleed,
Remi (30:18):
they can bleed?
They can bleed into also, theycan immediate, if you don't wash
them well after that, they'lljust keep, yes they can go back.
And then also another negativeside effect of pimples if you're
popping them, which is never.
You could get sepsis.
So what happens is the oils thatcause the pimples and you pop
it, that dirt can actually goback into the open wound and get
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into your bloodstream and makeyou sick.
That can happen.
So you don't wanna pop pimples.
Do you just wait drasticallysick, or is it drastic?
I've never been sick from it,and I've popped a few pimples in
my.
Some people have been even asadults, and they pop.
I still get pimples as an adult.
I get one a month.
(31:01):
Yeah, but how bad do you thinkthe sickness is?
So it's different for everyindividual.
I think the best thing is not topop them.
Definitely it's most importantto keep your skin clean.
All right?
So keep your skin clean.
It's not just your skin though.
Your hormones are gonna change.
You're gonna get pim.
No matter what, you can minimizethe pimples by cleaning your
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face and by eating a healthydiet and drinking lots of water.
So let's say if you got pimplesyes.
And you didn't pop, would theyjust, and you wait like.
Jaime (31:33):
Thank you ladies so much for your time today.
I hope you had fun with thisinterview cause I know I did and
I hope you've helped other mamasand other girls navigate this
tween transition with makeup..
Lilly (31:45):
We really hopely help them make better choices when
we're, when they get to the agewhere they wear makeup.
Remi (31:53):
So I think you should be grateful for what you have, and
it's okay if you don't have anymakeup.
It's just as long as you haveclean products to keep you safe
there, awesome.
And we hope you enjoyed ourvideo today,
Lilly (32:11):
And we hope you, we hope to pick out clean products and
have you use them.
Remi (32:17):
Yes.
And remember it don't use makeupbecause, you think you'll, you
think people will like youbetter cuz that.
It matters about how you feeland not let, and not how other
people feel about you.
Jaime (32:33):
Oh, it was so fun talking to these girls.
Their personalities are sodifferent too.
I'm really excited for them forthis next chapter of their life.
I cringe a little bit at all theinsecurity I had at that age,
and I pray they never feel thosefeelings.
They're pretty confident girls,but I know that puberty's gonna
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hit really soon and things aregonna change.
I just pray that I developrelationships with them strong
enough that they can come to mewhen they're struggling.
And that I'm wise enough tolisten and not so quick to jump
on giving advice or telling themwhat they need to do.
I tell you my best friends thathave had the biggest impact in
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my life are those that just knowhow to ask me the right
questions, so, so that I cansearch for the answers myself,
and I pray that I can evolveinto that wise parent as well.
Thank you so much for tuning intoday.
This was a great episode.
I hope you have something totake away.
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I wish you the best of luck ifyou're on the same leg of your
journey in parenthood as I amright now, and if you are,
goodness, reach out to me.
Let's compare notes and see howwe can better the circumstances
for the years we have ahead ofus.
This Friday.
I'm gonna do a deep dive onballets.
(34:02):
It's even harder to spell thanit is to pronounce, I promise.
But I will go through whatphthalates are, what they're
commonly found in, why we striveto avoid them in ingredients we
use in our own family and whyyou should consider avoiding
them too.
Thank you so much.
I hope you have a wonderful weekand I look forward to connecting
with you again soon.
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