November 21, 2023 • 29 mins
We all love a good find at a vintage store and have done our fair share of donating or selling stuff we no longer want. These sustainable actions fuel a booming industry called the secondary market for consumer goods. But how much do we know about the consumer resale market? How can we make good decisions about where we donate, and how can we be savvy shoppers in the resale retail world? Joining us with the inside scoop is Kathleen Colan - a seasoned writer, author, and the founder of KC Media Partners. Kathleen has reported on the resale retail industry and sells vintage goods herself. In this episode, we unlock some of the best places in town to find those pre-loved treasures, share our favorite finds, and hear some tips for savvy shopping that we hope will inspire you to shop secondhand this holiday season.
Guest:
Kathleen Colan, Founder of KC Media Partners
C'estParfait.love (Kathleen's vintage on Ebay)
Resources:
PBS feature: Buy low, sell high: commodifying commerce in the consumer goods secondary market by Kathleen Colan
Consumer brand buy-back programs
Unboxing Shein on Hulu
Shop Vintage Cleveland and More:
Great Lakes Vintage
Goodwill Bins Outlet
Worn Wear (Patagonia)
Attenson's Antiques and Books
Eclectic Eccentric
Monarch Boutique
Flower Child
Sweet Lorain
All Things for You
Schoolhouse Salvage
ROOK Modern
Main Street Modern
Beachland Ballroom
Bainbridge Antique Center
Habitat Re-Store
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
You're listening to EcoSpeak CLE, where the
EcoCurious explore the uniqueand thriving environmental
community here in Northeast Ohio.
My name is Diane Pickett and myproducer is Greg Rotuno.
Together, we bring youinspiring stories from local
sustainability leaders andinvite you to connect, learn and
live with our community andplanet in mind.
(00:25):
Hello friends, today we'regoing to talk about the
wonderful world of resale retail.
If you're like me, you love agood find at a thrift store and
you've probably done your fairshare of donating or selling
stuff you no longer want.
Facebook, marketplace Rebuilders, exchange, your favorite
consignment shop, whateveryou're, jam, you're not alone.
(00:45):
In fact, 82% of Americans buyand sell secondhand goods and
we've become very fond of ourdonation centers.
We all have stuff we don't wantand we don't want our stuff
going to a landfill, and thatcan be good for the resale
economy.
But how much do we really knowabout the consumer resale market
?
How can we make good decisionsabout where we donate our stuff
(01:05):
and how can we be savvy shoppersin the resale retail world?
Here to give us all the goodsis Kathleen Cullen.
Kathleen is a writer, author,former society reporter for the
Plain Dealer and the founder ofKC Media Partners.
She reported on the secondarymarkets for consumer goods, for
PBS idea stream and as a sellerof vintage goods herself.
(01:28):
And Kathleen knows a thing ortwo about recycling and reuse
because for years she was mycommunications consultant when I
worked for the Kauhoga CountySolid Waste District, so it's
fun to tap into her experienceand expertise once again.
So welcome Kathleen.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Thanks, tye, and you know I'm excited to talk about
this topic.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Well, I will start by saying this scarf I'm wearing
today should look familiar toyou, because I bought it from
you at the Mabridge.
Antique Center for 10 months.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Wonderful, it does look great on you.
It's a perfect match for yourcoloring and your hair.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Thank you.
So let's start by saying youknow, when did your passion for
selling secondhand goods start?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
At a very young age.
You know, at a very young age.
There was a unique thrift storeon Shore Center Drive in Euclid
, where I grew up, and I justloved it, you know, and I would
pour over vogue magazines and Icouldn't afford those clothes
and my grandma taught me how tosew, so I was buying things at
the thrift store and convertingthem into the things I saw in
(02:31):
vogue, and mixing and matchingand shopping at the mall and I
just fell in love with it at avery early age and it's just so
economical and it's beingsustainable.
You know, you don't always haveto buy new, so I just I've
loved it for a very long time.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, me too.
I remember shopping as a highschool kid.
There was a store I can'tremember it was in Cleveland
Heights on Lee Road and theyalways had cool stuff like I
could get Army Navy jackets andwool.
You know cool wool jackets andstuff.
So when we talk about what youknow thrift stores were back
(03:07):
then, versus to what this neweconomy is now, it's really kind
of blown up and you've kind ofdone some research recently and
reported that on that.
What can you tell us about whatthe resale second hand market
looks now?
Because it's not just aneighborhood thrift store or
goodwill, it's become a globalindustry.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Well, of course you know what you call the second
hand market.
We sometimes hear a larger termcalled the secondary market,
and that's defined as anythingthat you know is being sold for
a second time and most peoplecome and contact it with it now,
not at the thrift store downthe street like we're talking
(03:48):
about which may indeed be thecase with at a goodwill or a
salvation army but online, withthe invention of the Internet
and eBay as one of the firstplaces.
So you know, we all know thenames eBay and Etsy, perhaps
even Poshmark or D-Pop or thereal real where people sell
things in the secondary market.
But there are so many specialtyproviders.
(04:10):
You know there's a site to sellguitars called reverb.
You know there's local sites.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Greg's nodding, he's got you upstairs.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
There's local sites.
You know you could go to a sitecalled Great Lakes Vintage and
find a bunch of local auctionitems.
You go to estate sales dot net.
You'll find all the localestate sales happening here
online and in person, andauctions.
You could go to live auction.
This is all happening here.
It's a really vibrant secondarymarket in northeast Ohio.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
And that's.
There's an economy around thatwhich is it's good for the
environment, it's good for thepeople who are trying to get in
and sell their things.
Rebuilders, exchange refers toit as the salvage economy and
that's what they're trying togrow here.
But different organizationshave different models for what
(05:02):
they do with our things, andit's great we have more and more
places where we could donateour items or reseller items so
they don't have to go to alandfill.
But what do you want people toknow about how some of those
operations work?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Well, first thing I want to say is, if you're
planning on donating old clothesor shoes, or even any furniture
or anything, you want to makesure that it's usable by someone
down the line, because thethrift stores do just throw away
things that are not usable, soyou're kind of just passing your
work on to somebody a charitythat has to use that time to
(05:41):
figure out how to dispose of it.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
When people drop things off at a good will store,
for instance, what happens?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Well, they bring the items into intake and they
decide what's valuable.
I am not privy to everythingthey do behind the scenes at
good will.
These items are on make it tothe floor their price.
You know they've had throughthe pandemic.
They had national consultantsin to change the way they do
(06:09):
business.
They're very smart businesspeople.
They completely change the waythey do business on a regular
basis.
They have done many new things.
I mean there their prices haveup their game.
You know, with the invention ofGoogle Lens that has changed
the whole secondhand businessfrom the prices at a goodwill to
a very, you know, smallsecondhand thrift store up the
(06:31):
street to somebody who's just,you know, selling buttons on
eBay.
As more information comesonline about the prices of
things, more people can accessit and be involved.
So it's just exploding.
So but so, and I got a beeftrack.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Well, that's all right because I mean, I think we
understand, you know, somegoods are put on the floor for
sale, some things are graded andmight go into a bailer and
might be sent overseas andthat's a whole nother probably
podcast in terms of the impactof that.
But I also understand from yourreporting that goodwill will
(07:11):
call the good stuff and sell itonline itself, because they're
trying to get as much value outof these materials as possible.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
They are.
They are I did neglect tomention that stuff.
They do.
Most of the jewelry well, allof the jewelry.
You don't see jewelry ingoodwill stores anymore because
they take it all to more peoplethat are more expert than the
people they typically haveworking in their local stores
and if you go to I think it'sjust a goodwillcom it might be
(07:37):
shopgoodwillcom as well.
All of the really valuablestuff more than just jewelry is
placed there on a nationalauction site, just like how eBay
works or any other type ofonline auction.
So whereas you know, as localbuyers we would be able to go in
and have access to those reallycool, valuable things that our
(07:59):
neighbors had donated, you knowwe don't have access to that
anymore.
We have to compete for itnationally, and they also do
that with.
Sometimes they take the localdonations and pool them all from
a whole region and thenredistribute them.
So you think you're going to agoodwill in a fancy neighborhood
where there's going to be goodstuff, but they've redistributed
(08:21):
it.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
So it's equal.
It's bizarre.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I mean, I hear these things.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
And we're learning so much.
So some of my favorite.
One of my favorite thriftstores is Thriftik, and I think
it's run by the Jewish Women'sFederation or something like
that National Council of JewishWomen.
Perfect, and they have goodstuff in there.
It's at Miles and Richmond,richmond, and that money, I
(08:50):
think, is kept, maybe a littlebit more local.
But I think the model for someof these organizations is
they're selling your thingsbecause they are trying to raise
money for their programs andtheir charity organizations so
Habitat Restores Fund, habitatHomebuilding, et cetera.
(09:11):
Some of these are for-profitcompanies, though, and I think
not everyone knows that.
Some of the front face of someof these for-profit companies
might be like a veteran societyor the people that might come
pick up stuff on your porch.
So how does one kind of be moresavvy about who they're
(09:33):
donating to so they can puttheir donations to the best use?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Well, I mean you've got to take a look.
I mean look at the bins, lookat the website, ask the
management inside the store.
You've got to do a littleinvestigation.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Okay, so what happens to items that don't sell in
some of the stores you mentioned?
There are some bulk binlocations for the real deep
discounted items Goodwill withmany stores in Northeast Ohio.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Things that are not sold there and not put in bails
to go overseas are sent to acentral location in Akron and
it's called the bins theGoodwill Bins where things are
sold by the pound and it'srecommended that you wear gloves
and bring sanitizer, have you?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
been there, no, I haven't.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
It's not my thing.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
I'm just I'm not willing to go there.
They had one of those in Dayton.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Did they?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Mm-hmm, people would go for, like Halloween costumes
and stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Oh, it was chaos.
I mean I've done a lot of stuffbut I'm not ready to.
I might, if I'm in Akron in theday for something.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Well, I'm not sure I would want to or have a need to.
I mean, I like a good deal, butnot that kind of a deal, I
think.
So, when you were doing yourresearch on this industry, are
there some things you discoveredthat surprised you or would
surprise us?
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Well, I.
What's interesting is that theindustry is changing so much and
that that big brands aregetting in on the industry.
They want their piece of thepie.
You know, when big brands aregetting in on something, there's
a lot of money happening.
So let's take a brand Patagonia.
I think you guys would befamiliar with that brand.
You probably own something fromthis brand.
(11:28):
I bet Diane quote today or fromR E I probably shop there or
athletic or lululemon those aresome brands that are
participating in Buying theirold things back on online so you
could submit some old Patagoniaitems that you have.
You could go on their website,find their buy back program,
(11:49):
upload pictures of your oldPatagonia.
They'll decide if it's worthy.
You could get cash or credit atthe store and they decide if
they're gonna upcycle it,recycle it and sell it so that
there's a marketplace andthere's one company that made
the software for this, thatselling it to all these people
to do it really yes, that.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I forget the name okay, but why would I?
Why would Patagonia R E I do?
That is a greenwashing, or isthere?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
no, it's to keep.
It's to keep the mark, theirbrand, their brand, loyalty with
their people.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
It's not to get me to send my my jacket, and so I buy
a new jacket because I get adiscount, and of course that, of
course that.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Okay, of course it's that, of course it's branding.
Yeah, I mean it does help.
I mean it's really a stickyexperience for their customer.
I can't say how much it'sgreenwashing, it's just
happening.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
So maybe they prefer to get it back themselves, so
they can pick, you know, dictatewhere it goes from there versus
Another well then, they'reresold.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
They're resold and they're getting.
You know, they might buy yourPatagonia jacket for twenty
dollars and then resell it onthe site for forty.
So they're still, you know,making money on it and it's
staying and it's.
They're not making a new jacketyeah, okay and they're making
customers happy.
So it's, I think it's smartbusiness.
(13:15):
Okay, I mean it's just smartbusiness.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I see that you're, you're kind of winning me over.
Okay, you know, levi's bring usyour jeans, will quote unquote,
recycle your jeans and pay youin the store I'm gonna buy two
new pair of jeans for the pair Idropped off.
But to me it was like fuelingthe consumer cycle.
But if they are actually doingsomething good with those used
(13:43):
right.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
There's a market place on their website for the
youth stuff and a lot of thesebrands have a whole separate
website marketing plan name,like Patagonia is, is called
warn where and there's a wholewarn where dot com website of
just Patagonia.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, I'm totally down with Patagonia.
Lululemon has so much I'm notsure I would want to buy used
yoga pants for anybody they saythey clean them.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Ikea apparently does it car heart okay so well some
of those are.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
You know, brands that have good quality clothing that
that probably do stand up in aresale market for sure.
So let's talk about shopping,shopping second hand in
Cleveland.
So I was in the Bainbridgeantique center, your friend Ron
Silverman.
(14:38):
He paid me a hundred bucks forsome lot.
You know, big batch of jewelrythat.
I don't know where anymore andhe's like I'll take it off your
hands, reluctantly because theshop was filled with jewelry.
You mentioned jewelry before,but I'm curious about the
terminology, the differencebetween vintage antique stores
(14:58):
and thrift stores we're gonnaneed a Venn diagram, typically
so crossover yeah, they okay, anantique is typically a hundred
years old or more.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Okay, vintage.
Now they're saying 10 years,which I think is crazy.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Wow yeah, so now we're all vintage.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Right right, a thrift store.
You could find an antique and avintage item in a thrift store.
So a thrift store is a widecategory.
Vintage could be a widecategory.
You could find something that'sthrifted at antique in a
vintage store.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
It's the Venn diagram .
Speaker 2 (15:38):
So, but an antique is typically a strict term of a
hundred years or more, butthat's in strict circles.
I mean, not everybody that'stalking about these things is
using these strict definitions.
It goes to the definition, butin the sales community of people
that buy and sell.
These are kind of givendefinitions these days and
(16:02):
they're always changing.
This is a very changingindustry and sometimes it's not.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
So you know vintage could refer to an era like I
want a 50s leather jacket orsomething and I'll know where to
go.
Vintage might also be used tomake something that's cheap,
sound cooler.
I mean, I'm sure there's someof that going on, but what
(16:28):
unique resale stores did youdiscover here in your research?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I have a lot of neat shops that I go to.
All the time I'm not.
I'm not really buying right now.
I'm trying to divest myself.
I have a lot of stuff for saleon eBay.
There are some favorite shops.
I have always Antonsons onCoventry and they're wonderful.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
I love what type of things do they sell?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
They have everything they divest estates, so
everything that doesn't sell attheir estate sales comes to the
store.
Plus, they just always havefabulous, fabulous things from
wonderful estates and they'refrom clothing to housewares Just
beautiful things, eclectic,eccentric.
On large mirror.
Same, just beautiful style andalso on large mirror.
(17:13):
Monarch boutique.
You mentioned leather jacket.
I think that's where you go forthe leather jacket, the jean
jacket maybe, a lot eclectic,eccentric.
The fur and since Coventry, allthe and I'm an east side of
that- that's why I know youdefinitely are in a geographical
area.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
There's one right there Flower child flower child
has.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I haven't been in there in a while.
They've always had fabulousthings.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
It's a very cool store, mm hmm, what's the one we
went to?
Greg on Lorraine.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
All things for you is fabulous.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
It's very small and very definitely vintage.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
There's like a bunch of Lorraine.
There's sweet Lorraine.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
There's right around the corner from.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Oh, I know what you're talking about.
Uh, it was him and his they'renot there.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
They closed.
Oh yeah, Okay.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
They were in the old uh, but a cycle place.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
All things for you.
On Lorraine in Ohio City, um,and they just got flooded out in
the last rainstorm, but theyhad a basement with like a
couple dozen Um people showinggreat vintage collections, and
now they've brought them upwhile they're redoing, so it's a
great place to stop.
If you're in Ohio City, allthings for you is a good place.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
So if Goodwill and some other stores are calling
the good stuff and selling themin other ways than their store,
where can we still find the goodand cool treasures and kind of
beat the competition?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
It's just part of the journey, part of the fun you
might want to check outestatesalesnet or auctionsipcom,
you know, to find it's reallythe garage sales, the estate
sales, the church basements and,like I said, with the invention
of Google Lens, even all thosepeople know what they have and
(19:02):
know what you know because theinformation's available.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Okay, you mentioned Google Lens twice now and I
don't really know what that is.
Can you explain it's?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
an app on our phones and you just you can put it up
to anything or a picture ofanything, and it will tell you.
You know where this item is onthe internet, how much it costs,
what it is Cool, and so youknow it's very easy to use.
And you see, that's what peopleare doing when they're in the
Goodwill with their phonesthey're taking pictures of stuff
(19:30):
on Google Lens and looking ifit's valuable or not.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Very interesting, okay, and that'll help me know
if I'm going to pay the rightprice for something that works
on Facebook Marketplace 2 in away.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
It brings up mostly.
It doesn't bring up FacebookMarketplace.
It brings up eBay, etsy, itbrings up all kinds of other
things, but I think Facebook's awalled garden in that effect.
Gotcha.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
So what was your all-time favorite second hand
buy?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
You know there have been so many, but I have one on
my rack right now and I'mdebating selling it because I
only wore it once in the pastyear and I got it at a church
basement store and it's a fulllength black, velvet, very satin
lined cape with a hood and itbelongs and it's embroidered
with the Society Lady's name.
(20:21):
This is a yeah in shaker.
I'm not telling you what it isand I think you need to keep
that yeah.
Anyway, it's beautiful and I'mthinking about selling it
because I only wore it once.
And how often do you need that?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yeah, so tell us about how you sell your.
Mostly what you sell is vintageclothing right.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Really all kinds of stuff clothing and accessories
for women, just unique stuffthat I find that comes to me Do
you have a shop somewhere online.
Just on eBay, just on eBay.
So yeah, I just sell thingsjust as a hobby or job.
You know, half job, half hobby.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Well, I imagine, since you were a former society
reporter for the plain dealer,you have lots of like evening
wear because you had to coverall these events right.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
You know, yes, yes and so that's.
And I always pulled from thesecond hand stories.
You know, for my stuff Icertainly couldn't afford to go
buying all this.
You know, fancy clothes forthese parties.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
So they didn't have clothing rental, they didn't
have rent the runway back then.
My favorite second hand buy wasthe find of a lifetime.
It was the Chagrin Fallssidewalk sale years ago and this
guy was moving from a house onCoddard Street which was like a
Victorian house to a loftdowntown.
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He's like well, this our housedining set won't work down there
.
So I got a steal for, you know,six tables and a beautiful
refactory our house table forlike 600 bucks.
It was great, I know I was veryexcited about that.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
That was just a great one.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
And then my second favorite was this mid mod style
porch furniture that set that Igot from Habitat and I just
recovered the cushions and it'sbeen sitting on my porch for the
last 10 years.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Which habitats you go to.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
This set I got at the Lorraine 130, at the original
restorer up here, and then myother favorite one was in Jogga
County, but they closed thatstore.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
They did.
I know I was out in Newberry.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
I was a little bummed about that.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
So how about Peace Unique out by you?
Do you go to that one?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I sell a lot of stuff at Peace Unique.
That's a consignment store, sohot tip If you just want to get
a few dollars for your itemsthey're too good to give away,
They'll give you 50 cents on thedollar for that.
So I have pretty good luckthere.
Yeah, they're good.
And then Rebuilder's Exchange,getting away from the clothing
stuff.
I just got a check for 87 bucksfrom them.
(23:09):
I took an old light fixture anda couple old chairs Wow, and
they paid me for that.
There's a new documentary outon Hulu that I just saw
yesterday about the fast fashioncompany She-In.
Have you watched it yet?
Is it coming out?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yes, unboxing She-In, and it's short, just about 45
minutes, I think.
But so enlightening about thatwe don't even know the name of
the owner of the company becausehe hides Wow and they can't get
any information about.
Are these people in sweatshops?
(23:45):
When any American person owns afactory in China, our people
are in there shutting theseplaces down if they're
exploiting anybody, but thiscompany has been able to avoid
all that somehow.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
They're like the it thing on TikTok right now.
So all the high school kids canyou buy stuff for like $5, like
a shirt or blouse for like $5.
And then the trend goes awaytwo weeks later and you buy
something else.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Oh, that's sick.
We can do better.
We could go into Black Fridayand go to a resale store.
Support these organizations whoare selling donated goods to
support their work.
We could buy cool items from avintage store as a gift.
(24:36):
I brought you something,kathleen.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
That's over here.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Right, we can visit the secondary market on any
platform.
I love the paper.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I got this for you today, Edda.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Should I open now?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah, it's a store around the corner for me
Schoolhouse Salvage and ShredFalls.
I haven't been in there yet,but I know some people involved
that I love the paper.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Was this their paper?
Speaker 4 (25:00):
It's some it's a dressmaker pattern.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah just cute little felt bird and postcard Fabulous
and your Eco Speaks Kleestickers.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
That's right.
Well, those are Eco Speaks Kleeis that those will be vintage
in 10 years.
This is beautiful nine years.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Yeah, I thought that reminded me of you, just because
you have such style.
And now I know why you're likethe most put together person
I've ever met, because while weworked together all those years,
you always came into the officeand you were always just so
well dressed.
Aw, thank you.
Always very well put togetherso this is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, thanks so much.
I'm gonna put this somewherespecial, very nice so wrap up
with some tip time here.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
So how about we do like a round robin?
I say the best place to findblank, and you tell me what
store you would recommend I'lltry.
I may not be good, all righthere we go Best place to find a
vintage Jean Jack.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I'll say Eclectic, eccentric on Large Mirror.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Okay, best place to find Mid-Mod furniture.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Mm.
Well, there's three places.
The one is in Canton and thename is escaping me, but it'll
come back.
Sweet Lorraine has a lot, andwhat's the place in Tremont?
The names are escaping me.
I'm trying to do this, it hasall and it begins with an R, but
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it'll come back to me.
Sorry, I am putting you on thespot.
You are, you are.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
You're gonna hate me for that, Okay best place to
shop for vinyl records.
Vinyl records you know theyhave a shop in the basement of
the Beachland Ballroom.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
that has a lot of records down there, so I'd start
there and then they can directyou.
There's a whole room at FlowerChild.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Flower Child the downstairs of Flower Child.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
That's a whole record room.
Where's Flower Child?
You've mentioned that twice,it's on.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Clifton, right up the street, right next to the
Lucky's.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Best place to find a vintage wedding dress.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Mm vintage wedding dress.
I know I've seen a bunchsomewhere.
You know sometimes you can findthose in the.
They're in the Goodwill all thetime.
And I remember the name of themid-century modern furniture
store in Tremont is Rook Modernand the one in Canton is Main
Street Modern.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Miranda's Vintage Bridal.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
What's it?
Speaker 3 (27:37):
called Miranda's Vintage Bridal.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah.
So Hailey had her wedding dressaltered at Miranda's Vintage
Bridal.
It's right on West.
What is it 41st?
Speaker 3 (27:50):
It goes into Tremont, off of that 41st goes into the
West, so you sixth is sixth goesinto the Tremont or night West
night, oh god you can have somefun editing this podcast.
We just got to stop namingplaces and speculating on the
14th Miranda's Vintage.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Bridal in Tremont.
So what's next for you?
Are you going to continue tocover this topic or are you
going to continue to writenovels based in Lakeview
Cemetery?
Speaker 2 (28:22):
I will always be writing about something.
It's just.
I mean it's just what I do andwho I am.
And I think I'll always beselling on the secondary market,
because that is so interestingtoo.
And I mean I just like toimagine the lives these items
have had before and make upstories about them.
So I mean, both suit me.
So, yeah, just continue doingwhat I do.
And my eBay store is at, say,parfaitlove, which means it's
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perfect love in French.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Okay, we will put a link in our show notes.
Thank you, Diane.
Thank you, Kathleen.
This has been fun.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
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Hello friends, today we'regoing to talk about the
wonderful world of resale retail.
If you're like me, you love agood find at a thrift store and
you've probably done your fairshare of donating or selling
stuff you no longer want.
Facebook, marketplace Rebuilders, exchange, your favorite
consignment shop, whateveryou're, jam, you're not alone.
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In fact, 82% of Americans buyand sell secondhand goods and
we've become very fond of ourdonation centers.
We all have stuff we don't wantand we don't want our stuff
going to a landfill, and thatcan be good for the resale
economy.
But how much do we really knowabout the consumer resale market
?
How can we make good decisionsabout where we donate our stuff
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and how can we be savvy shoppersin the resale retail world?
Here to give us all the goodsis Kathleen Cullen.
Kathleen is a writer, author,former society reporter for the
Plain Dealer and the founder ofKC Media Partners.
She reported on the secondarymarkets for consumer goods, for
PBS idea stream and as a sellerof vintage goods herself.
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And Kathleen knows a thing ortwo about recycling and reuse
because for years she was mycommunications consultant when I
worked for the Kauhoga CountySolid Waste District, so it's
fun to tap into her experienceand expertise once again.
So welcome Kathleen.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Thanks, tye, and you know I'm excited to talk about
this topic.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Well, I will start by saying this scarf I'm wearing
today should look familiar toyou, because I bought it from
you at the Mabridge.
Antique Center for 10 months.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Wonderful, it does look great on you.
It's a perfect match for yourcoloring and your hair.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Thank you.
So let's start by saying youknow, when did your passion for
selling secondhand goods start?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
At a very young age.
You know, at a very young age.
There was a unique thrift storeon Shore Center Drive in Euclid
, where I grew up, and I justloved it, you know, and I would
pour over vogue magazines and Icouldn't afford those clothes
and my grandma taught me how tosew, so I was buying things at
the thrift store and convertingthem into the things I saw in
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vogue, and mixing and matchingand shopping at the mall and I
just fell in love with it at avery early age and it's just so
economical and it's beingsustainable.
You know, you don't always haveto buy new, so I just I've
loved it for a very long time.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, me too.
I remember shopping as a highschool kid.
There was a store I can'tremember it was in Cleveland
Heights on Lee Road and theyalways had cool stuff like I
could get Army Navy jackets andwool.
You know cool wool jackets andstuff.
So when we talk about what youknow thrift stores were back
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then, versus to what this neweconomy is now, it's really kind
of blown up and you've kind ofdone some research recently and
reported that on that.
What can you tell us about whatthe resale second hand market
looks now?
Because it's not just aneighborhood thrift store or
goodwill, it's become a globalindustry.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Well, of course you know what you call the second
hand market.
We sometimes hear a larger termcalled the secondary market,
and that's defined as anythingthat you know is being sold for
a second time and most peoplecome and contact it with it now,
not at the thrift store downthe street like we're talking
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about which may indeed be thecase with at a goodwill or a
salvation army but online, withthe invention of the Internet
and eBay as one of the firstplaces.
So you know, we all know thenames eBay and Etsy, perhaps
even Poshmark or D-Pop or thereal real where people sell
things in the secondary market.
But there are so many specialtyproviders.
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You know there's a site to sellguitars called reverb.
You know there's local sites.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Greg's nodding, he's got you upstairs.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
There's local sites.
You know you could go to a sitecalled Great Lakes Vintage and
find a bunch of local auctionitems.
You go to estate sales dot net.
You'll find all the localestate sales happening here
online and in person, andauctions.
You could go to live auction.
This is all happening here.
It's a really vibrant secondarymarket in northeast Ohio.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
And that's.
There's an economy around thatwhich is it's good for the
environment, it's good for thepeople who are trying to get in
and sell their things.
Rebuilders, exchange refers toit as the salvage economy and
that's what they're trying togrow here.
But different organizationshave different models for what
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they do with our things, andit's great we have more and more
places where we could donateour items or reseller items so
they don't have to go to alandfill.
But what do you want people toknow about how some of those
operations work?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Well, first thing I want to say is, if you're
planning on donating old clothesor shoes, or even any furniture
or anything, you want to makesure that it's usable by someone
down the line, because thethrift stores do just throw away
things that are not usable, soyou're kind of just passing your
work on to somebody a charitythat has to use that time to
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figure out how to dispose of it.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
When people drop things off at a good will store,
for instance, what happens?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Well, they bring the items into intake and they
decide what's valuable.
I am not privy to everythingthey do behind the scenes at
good will.
These items are on make it tothe floor their price.
You know they've had throughthe pandemic.
They had national consultantsin to change the way they do
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business.
They're very smart businesspeople.
They completely change the waythey do business on a regular
basis.
They have done many new things.
I mean there their prices haveup their game.
You know, with the invention ofGoogle Lens that has changed
the whole secondhand businessfrom the prices at a goodwill to
a very, you know, smallsecondhand thrift store up the
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street to somebody who's just,you know, selling buttons on
eBay.
As more information comesonline about the prices of
things, more people can accessit and be involved.
So it's just exploding.
So but so, and I got a beeftrack.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Well, that's all right because I mean, I think we
understand, you know, somegoods are put on the floor for
sale, some things are graded andmight go into a bailer and
might be sent overseas andthat's a whole nother probably
podcast in terms of the impactof that.
But I also understand from yourreporting that goodwill will
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call the good stuff and sell itonline itself, because they're
trying to get as much value outof these materials as possible.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
They are.
They are I did neglect tomention that stuff.
They do.
Most of the jewelry well, allof the jewelry.
You don't see jewelry ingoodwill stores anymore because
they take it all to more peoplethat are more expert than the
people they typically haveworking in their local stores
and if you go to I think it'sjust a goodwillcom it might be
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shopgoodwillcom as well.
All of the really valuablestuff more than just jewelry is
placed there on a nationalauction site, just like how eBay
works or any other type ofonline auction.
So whereas you know, as localbuyers we would be able to go in
and have access to those reallycool, valuable things that our
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neighbors had donated, you knowwe don't have access to that
anymore.
We have to compete for itnationally, and they also do
that with.
Sometimes they take the localdonations and pool them all from
a whole region and thenredistribute them.
So you think you're going to agoodwill in a fancy neighborhood
where there's going to be goodstuff, but they've redistributed
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it.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
So it's equal.
It's bizarre.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I mean, I hear these things.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
And we're learning so much.
So some of my favorite.
One of my favorite thriftstores is Thriftik, and I think
it's run by the Jewish Women'sFederation or something like
that National Council of JewishWomen.
Perfect, and they have goodstuff in there.
It's at Miles and Richmond,richmond, and that money, I
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think, is kept, maybe a littlebit more local.
But I think the model for someof these organizations is
they're selling your thingsbecause they are trying to raise
money for their programs andtheir charity organizations so
Habitat Restores Fund, habitatHomebuilding, et cetera.
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Some of these are for-profitcompanies, though, and I think
not everyone knows that.
Some of the front face of someof these for-profit companies
might be like a veteran societyor the people that might come
pick up stuff on your porch.
So how does one kind of be moresavvy about who they're
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donating to so they can puttheir donations to the best use?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Well, I mean you've got to take a look.
I mean look at the bins, lookat the website, ask the
management inside the store.
You've got to do a littleinvestigation.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Okay, so what happens to items that don't sell in
some of the stores you mentioned?
There are some bulk binlocations for the real deep
discounted items Goodwill withmany stores in Northeast Ohio.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Things that are not sold there and not put in bails
to go overseas are sent to acentral location in Akron and
it's called the bins theGoodwill Bins where things are
sold by the pound and it'srecommended that you wear gloves
and bring sanitizer, have you?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
been there, no, I haven't.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
It's not my thing.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
I'm just I'm not willing to go there.
They had one of those in Dayton.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Did they?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Mm-hmm, people would go for, like Halloween costumes
and stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Oh, it was chaos.
I mean I've done a lot of stuffbut I'm not ready to.
I might, if I'm in Akron in theday for something.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Well, I'm not sure I would want to or have a need to.
I mean, I like a good deal, butnot that kind of a deal, I
think.
So, when you were doing yourresearch on this industry, are
there some things you discoveredthat surprised you or would
surprise us?
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Well, I.
What's interesting is that theindustry is changing so much and
that that big brands aregetting in on the industry.
They want their piece of thepie.
You know, when big brands aregetting in on something, there's
a lot of money happening.
So let's take a brand Patagonia.
I think you guys would befamiliar with that brand.
You probably own something fromthis brand.
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I bet Diane quote today or fromR E I probably shop there or
athletic or lululemon those aresome brands that are
participating in Buying theirold things back on online so you
could submit some old Patagoniaitems that you have.
You could go on their website,find their buy back program,
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upload pictures of your oldPatagonia.
They'll decide if it's worthy.
You could get cash or credit atthe store and they decide if
they're gonna upcycle it,recycle it and sell it so that
there's a marketplace andthere's one company that made
the software for this, thatselling it to all these people
to do it really yes, that.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I forget the name okay, but why would I?
Why would Patagonia R E I do?
That is a greenwashing, or isthere?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
no, it's to keep.
It's to keep the mark, theirbrand, their brand, loyalty with
their people.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
It's not to get me to send my my jacket, and so I buy
a new jacket because I get adiscount, and of course that, of
course that.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Okay, of course it's that, of course it's branding.
Yeah, I mean it does help.
I mean it's really a stickyexperience for their customer.
I can't say how much it'sgreenwashing, it's just
happening.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
So maybe they prefer to get it back themselves, so
they can pick, you know, dictatewhere it goes from there versus
Another well then, they'reresold.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
They're resold and they're getting.
You know, they might buy yourPatagonia jacket for twenty
dollars and then resell it onthe site for forty.
So they're still, you know,making money on it and it's
staying and it's.
They're not making a new jacketyeah, okay and they're making
customers happy.
So it's, I think it's smartbusiness.
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Okay, I mean it's just smartbusiness.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I see that you're, you're kind of winning me over.
Okay, you know, levi's bring usyour jeans, will quote unquote,
recycle your jeans and pay youin the store I'm gonna buy two
new pair of jeans for the pair Idropped off.
But to me it was like fuelingthe consumer cycle.
But if they are actually doingsomething good with those used
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right.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
There's a market place on their website for the
youth stuff and a lot of thesebrands have a whole separate
website marketing plan name,like Patagonia is, is called
warn where and there's a wholewarn where dot com website of
just Patagonia.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, I'm totally down with Patagonia.
Lululemon has so much I'm notsure I would want to buy used
yoga pants for anybody they saythey clean them.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Ikea apparently does it car heart okay so well some
of those are.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
You know, brands that have good quality clothing that
that probably do stand up in aresale market for sure.
So let's talk about shopping,shopping second hand in
Cleveland.
So I was in the Bainbridgeantique center, your friend Ron
Silverman.
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He paid me a hundred bucks forsome lot.
You know, big batch of jewelrythat.
I don't know where anymore andhe's like I'll take it off your
hands, reluctantly because theshop was filled with jewelry.
You mentioned jewelry before,but I'm curious about the
terminology, the differencebetween vintage antique stores
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and thrift stores we're gonnaneed a Venn diagram, typically
so crossover yeah, they okay, anantique is typically a hundred
years old or more.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Okay, vintage.
Now they're saying 10 years,which I think is crazy.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Wow yeah, so now we're all vintage.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Right right, a thrift store.
You could find an antique and avintage item in a thrift store.
So a thrift store is a widecategory.
Vintage could be a widecategory.
You could find something that'sthrifted at antique in a
vintage store.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
It's the Venn diagram .
Speaker 2 (15:38):
So, but an antique is typically a strict term of a
hundred years or more, butthat's in strict circles.
I mean, not everybody that'stalking about these things is
using these strict definitions.
It goes to the definition, butin the sales community of people
that buy and sell.
These are kind of givendefinitions these days and
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they're always changing.
This is a very changingindustry and sometimes it's not.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
So you know vintage could refer to an era like I
want a 50s leather jacket orsomething and I'll know where to
go.
Vintage might also be used tomake something that's cheap,
sound cooler.
I mean, I'm sure there's someof that going on, but what
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unique resale stores did youdiscover here in your research?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I have a lot of neat shops that I go to.
All the time I'm not.
I'm not really buying right now.
I'm trying to divest myself.
I have a lot of stuff for saleon eBay.
There are some favorite shops.
I have always Antonsons onCoventry and they're wonderful.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
I love what type of things do they sell?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
They have everything they divest estates, so
everything that doesn't sell attheir estate sales comes to the
store.
Plus, they just always havefabulous, fabulous things from
wonderful estates and they'refrom clothing to housewares Just
beautiful things, eclectic,eccentric.
On large mirror.
Same, just beautiful style andalso on large mirror.
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Monarch boutique.
You mentioned leather jacket.
I think that's where you go forthe leather jacket, the jean
jacket maybe, a lot eclectic,eccentric.
The fur and since Coventry, allthe and I'm an east side of
that- that's why I know youdefinitely are in a geographical
area.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
There's one right there Flower child flower child
has.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I haven't been in there in a while.
They've always had fabulousthings.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
It's a very cool store, mm hmm, what's the one we
went to?
Greg on Lorraine.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
All things for you is fabulous.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
It's very small and very definitely vintage.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
There's like a bunch of Lorraine.
There's sweet Lorraine.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
There's right around the corner from.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Oh, I know what you're talking about.
Uh, it was him and his they'renot there.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
They closed.
Oh yeah, Okay.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
They were in the old uh, but a cycle place.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
All things for you.
On Lorraine in Ohio City, um,and they just got flooded out in
the last rainstorm, but theyhad a basement with like a
couple dozen Um people showinggreat vintage collections, and
now they've brought them upwhile they're redoing, so it's a
great place to stop.
If you're in Ohio City, allthings for you is a good place.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
So if Goodwill and some other stores are calling
the good stuff and selling themin other ways than their store,
where can we still find the goodand cool treasures and kind of
beat the competition?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
It's just part of the journey, part of the fun you
might want to check outestatesalesnet or auctionsipcom,
you know, to find it's reallythe garage sales, the estate
sales, the church basements and,like I said, with the invention
of Google Lens, even all thosepeople know what they have and
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know what you know because theinformation's available.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Okay, you mentioned Google Lens twice now and I
don't really know what that is.
Can you explain it's?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
an app on our phones and you just you can put it up
to anything or a picture ofanything, and it will tell you.
You know where this item is onthe internet, how much it costs,
what it is Cool, and so youknow it's very easy to use.
And you see, that's what peopleare doing when they're in the
Goodwill with their phonesthey're taking pictures of stuff
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on Google Lens and looking ifit's valuable or not.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Very interesting, okay, and that'll help me know
if I'm going to pay the rightprice for something that works
on Facebook Marketplace 2 in away.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
It brings up mostly.
It doesn't bring up FacebookMarketplace.
It brings up eBay, etsy, itbrings up all kinds of other
things, but I think Facebook's awalled garden in that effect.
Gotcha.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
So what was your all-time favorite second hand
buy?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
You know there have been so many, but I have one on
my rack right now and I'mdebating selling it because I
only wore it once in the pastyear and I got it at a church
basement store and it's a fulllength black, velvet, very satin
lined cape with a hood and itbelongs and it's embroidered
with the Society Lady's name.
(20:21):
This is a yeah in shaker.
I'm not telling you what it isand I think you need to keep
that yeah.
Anyway, it's beautiful and I'mthinking about selling it
because I only wore it once.
And how often do you need that?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yeah, so tell us about how you sell your.
Mostly what you sell is vintageclothing right.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Really all kinds of stuff clothing and accessories
for women, just unique stuffthat I find that comes to me Do
you have a shop somewhere online.
Just on eBay, just on eBay.
So yeah, I just sell thingsjust as a hobby or job.
You know, half job, half hobby.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Well, I imagine, since you were a former society
reporter for the plain dealer,you have lots of like evening
wear because you had to coverall these events right.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
You know, yes, yes and so that's.
And I always pulled from thesecond hand stories.
You know, for my stuff Icertainly couldn't afford to go
buying all this.
You know, fancy clothes forthese parties.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
So they didn't have clothing rental, they didn't
have rent the runway back then.
My favorite second hand buy wasthe find of a lifetime.
It was the Chagrin Fallssidewalk sale years ago and this
guy was moving from a house onCoddard Street which was like a
Victorian house to a loftdowntown.
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He's like well, this our housedining set won't work down there
.
So I got a steal for, you know,six tables and a beautiful
refactory our house table forlike 600 bucks.
It was great, I know I was veryexcited about that.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
That was just a great one.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
And then my second favorite was this mid mod style
porch furniture that set that Igot from Habitat and I just
recovered the cushions and it'sbeen sitting on my porch for the
last 10 years.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Which habitats you go to.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
This set I got at the Lorraine 130, at the original
restorer up here, and then myother favorite one was in Jogga
County, but they closed thatstore.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
They did.
I know I was out in Newberry.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
I was a little bummed about that.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
So how about Peace Unique out by you?
Do you go to that one?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I sell a lot of stuff at Peace Unique.
That's a consignment store, sohot tip If you just want to get
a few dollars for your itemsthey're too good to give away,
They'll give you 50 cents on thedollar for that.
So I have pretty good luckthere.
Yeah, they're good.
And then Rebuilder's Exchange,getting away from the clothing
stuff.
I just got a check for 87 bucksfrom them.
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I took an old light fixture anda couple old chairs Wow, and
they paid me for that.
There's a new documentary outon Hulu that I just saw
yesterday about the fast fashioncompany She-In.
Have you watched it yet?
Is it coming out?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yes, unboxing She-In, and it's short, just about 45
minutes, I think.
But so enlightening about thatwe don't even know the name of
the owner of the company becausehe hides Wow and they can't get
any information about.
Are these people in sweatshops?
(23:45):
When any American person owns afactory in China, our people
are in there shutting theseplaces down if they're
exploiting anybody, but thiscompany has been able to avoid
all that somehow.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
They're like the it thing on TikTok right now.
So all the high school kids canyou buy stuff for like $5, like
a shirt or blouse for like $5.
And then the trend goes awaytwo weeks later and you buy
something else.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Oh, that's sick.
We can do better.
We could go into Black Fridayand go to a resale store.
Support these organizations whoare selling donated goods to
support their work.
We could buy cool items from avintage store as a gift.
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I brought you something,kathleen.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
That's over here.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Right, we can visit the secondary market on any
platform.
I love the paper.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I got this for you today, Edda.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Should I open now?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah, it's a store around the corner for me
Schoolhouse Salvage and ShredFalls.
I haven't been in there yet,but I know some people involved
that I love the paper.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Was this their paper?
Speaker 4 (25:00):
It's some it's a dressmaker pattern.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah just cute little felt bird and postcard Fabulous
and your Eco Speaks Kleestickers.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
That's right.
Well, those are Eco Speaks Kleeis that those will be vintage
in 10 years.
This is beautiful nine years.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Yeah, I thought that reminded me of you, just because
you have such style.
And now I know why you're likethe most put together person
I've ever met, because while weworked together all those years,
you always came into the officeand you were always just so
well dressed.
Aw, thank you.
Always very well put togetherso this is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, thanks so much.
I'm gonna put this somewherespecial, very nice so wrap up
with some tip time here.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
So how about we do like a round robin?
I say the best place to findblank, and you tell me what
store you would recommend I'lltry.
I may not be good, all righthere we go Best place to find a
vintage Jean Jack.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I'll say Eclectic, eccentric on Large Mirror.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Okay, best place to find Mid-Mod furniture.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Mm.
Well, there's three places.
The one is in Canton and thename is escaping me, but it'll
come back.
Sweet Lorraine has a lot, andwhat's the place in Tremont?
The names are escaping me.
I'm trying to do this, it hasall and it begins with an R, but
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it'll come back to me.
Sorry, I am putting you on thespot.
You are, you are.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
You're gonna hate me for that, Okay best place to
shop for vinyl records.
Vinyl records you know theyhave a shop in the basement of
the Beachland Ballroom.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
that has a lot of records down there, so I'd start
there and then they can directyou.
There's a whole room at FlowerChild.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Flower Child the downstairs of Flower Child.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
That's a whole record room.
Where's Flower Child?
You've mentioned that twice,it's on.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Clifton, right up the street, right next to the
Lucky's.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Best place to find a vintage wedding dress.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Mm vintage wedding dress.
I know I've seen a bunchsomewhere.
You know sometimes you can findthose in the.
They're in the Goodwill all thetime.
And I remember the name of themid-century modern furniture
store in Tremont is Rook Modernand the one in Canton is Main
Street Modern.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Miranda's Vintage Bridal.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
What's it?
Speaker 3 (27:37):
called Miranda's Vintage Bridal.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah.
So Hailey had her wedding dressaltered at Miranda's Vintage
Bridal.
It's right on West.
What is it 41st?
Speaker 3 (27:50):
It goes into Tremont, off of that 41st goes into the
West, so you sixth is sixth goesinto the Tremont or night West
night, oh god you can have somefun editing this podcast.
We just got to stop namingplaces and speculating on the
14th Miranda's Vintage.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Bridal in Tremont.
So what's next for you?
Are you going to continue tocover this topic or are you
going to continue to writenovels based in Lakeview
Cemetery?
Speaker 2 (28:22):
I will always be writing about something.
It's just.
I mean it's just what I do andwho I am.
And I think I'll always beselling on the secondary market,
because that is so interestingtoo.
And I mean I just like toimagine the lives these items
have had before and make upstories about them.
So I mean, both suit me.
So, yeah, just continue doingwhat I do.
And my eBay store is at, say,parfaitlove, which means it's
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perfect love in French.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Okay, we will put a link in our show notes.
Thank you, Diane.
Thank you, Kathleen.
This has been fun.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
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