Ever wonder what transforms a passionate educator into an exceptional leader? Dr. Rachel Edoho-Eket's journey from kindergarten teacher to Blue Ribbon School principal offers powerful insights for anyone navigating educational leadership.
Growing up surrounded by educators—with a grandmother who served Baltimore City schools for over 30 years—Rachel developed an early love for the school environment. "I was one of those children that even when it was summer break, I was ready to come back," she recalls. This foundation laid the groundwork for her leadership philosophy centered on creating the same sense of belonging for every child she serves.
What makes Dr. Edoho-Eket's perspective particularly valuable is her ability to connect her classroom experience with administrative roles. "There's not a big difference between being a kindergarten teacher and a principal," she explains. "In both cases, we're ambassadors for the school." This insight helped her navigate the challenging transition from teaching to leadership, where she discovered the power of two simple questions: "How can I help you?" and "What can I do to improve?"
Her book, "The Principal's Journey: Navigating the Path to School Leadership," fills a unique gap in educational literature by focusing on how to become a leader rather than just functioning as one. From preparing your resume to mastering interviews and creating positive school culture, Dr. Edoho-Eket provides practical guidance for aspiring administrators. As she puts it, "You don't have to get ready if you stay ready."
Beyond the mechanics of career advancement, Dr. Edoho-Eket addresses the emotional core of educational leadership—finding joy in challenging times. Having begun her principalship during the pandemic, she understands the importance of highlighting positive achievements and maintaining perspective. Her message to fellow educators resonates deeply: "Everything we do matters. Every contribution we make has lasting impacts that we'll never know how far they extend."
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Principal JL (00:00):
I am thrilled to welcome Dr Rachel Edoho-Eket to
the show.
She is a respected principal,public speaker, author and the
2025 president of the MarylandAssociation of Elementary School
Principals.
With decades in education, sheis known for her strong
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educational leadership,mentorship and passion for
student success.
Dr Edoho-E ket leads a nationalBlue Ribbon School in Maryland
and also serves as an adjunctprofessor at McDaniel College,
helping shape the nextgeneration of school leaders.
Her work, the Principal'sJourney, offers practical
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guidance for educators steppinginto leadership roles.
Her work is grounded inbuilding meaningful
relationships and inspiringexcellence at every level.
Now let's get into theconversation with Dr Rachel
Edoho-Eket.
Hey, everybody, welcome back toanother episode of the
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Educational Leadership Podcastwith Principal JL.
I am excited to have Dr RachelEdoho-Eket in the house today
for our episode.
So welcome, Dr.
Rachel, to the show.
Dr. Rachel Edoho-Eket (01:25):
Thank you so much for having me.
Jeff, I'm ready to get into thisconversation today.
Principal JL (01:32):
All right, we're going to go ahead and we're
going to dive right into it.
It's a question I ask everybodywhat inspired you to pursue a
career in education?
Dr. Rachel Edoho-Eket (01:43):
Well, first of all, my family is a
family of educators, so I'vealways known that I wanted to be
a teacher.
It's always been a part of mylife.
My parents definitely instilledthe importance of having a good
education and my brother and Iand my grandmother was an
educator in the Baltimore Citypublic school system for over 30
(02:05):
years, so I grew up reallywatching her, helping her set up
her classrooms.
She also was a school librarian, so I would go into her
elementary school and help herset up the library and doing the
Dewey Decimal System as a youngchild and I really just loved
the school environment.
And then, as a student, I lovedbeing in school.
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I was one of those children thateven when it was summer break,
I was ready to come back.
I miss my friends, I miss myteachers.
I wanted to be around the staffmembers.
I absolutely adored myprincipal.
Shout out to Mr Slakum, who wasmy kindergarten.
He was my elementary schoolprincipal when I was growing up.
We still are in contact todayand he's someone who I really
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admire.
So in my work as a principal Ialways try to think about how I
felt as a child, how much Iloved feeling welcomed in school
and having that sense ofbelonging, and that's something
that I'm passionate aboutproviding all of the children
that I serve in school as well.
Principal JL (03:05):
Awesome.
That's really great to hearthere's a lot of educators out
there that kind of get inspiredby the generation before.
For me, I wasn't quite thatlucky.
I didn't have really anybodythat was in education.
I kind of found it throughcoaching and when I found my
passion for coaching, then Ifound my passion for education.
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So I really love to heareverybody's unique uh stories
when, how to get into, what gotthem going.
So what did you have?
Sorry to interrupt?
Oh yeah, go ahead.
Um, yeah, yeah, I've coached.
You know I was a head footballcoach, head wrestling coach.
I've coached track and thefunny thing about track I was a
throwers coach and I was not athrower in high school, I was a
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long distance runner, so it waskind of one of those I was track
as well.
Dr. Rachel Edoho-Eket (03:53):
It's a great sport.
One of my favorites.
Principal JL (03:55):
I enjoyed doing it but at the same time it was
just one of those deals wherethey just needed someone to
coach the throwers.
They didn't have anybody and Ijust kind of learned up on it
and actually it was a reallygreat experience because I got
to coach a lot of great kids inmy experience from football
wrestling into track, and sothat was really where I started
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to like, go, hey, I want tobecome an educator because I get
a coach Right.
Like, go, hey, I want to becomean educator because I get a
coach right and that kind ofbuilt my you know leadership
skills into you know, becoming aprincipal.
Today, dr Rachel, you have hada dynamic career.
You've been, you know, goingfrom a teacher into
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instructional leader, assistantprincipal and now a principal of
a national blue ribbon school.
What are some of the keymoments and lessons that help
you shape your leadership stylealong the way?
I'd love to hear kind of thattransition from teacher into
those different roles.
Dr. Rachel Edoho-Eket (04:56):
Yeah.
So I love being a teacher.
That's number one.
I was a kindergarten teacher inearly childhood kindergarten
first and second for half of mycareer, so I really enjoy the
process of teaching children.
I love working with colleagues,connecting with really strong
educators, learning from people,and that has always been a part
of my story and each role Ifound value in a different way.
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So definitely as a teacher Iloved connecting with families.
Oftentimes a kindergartenteacher is that child's first
teacher, that ambassador to theschool, and I always share with
my early childhood colleagues.
There's really not a bigdifference between being a
kindergarten teacher and aprincipal.
I know that that soundsridiculous, but it's true.
In both cases we're ambassadorsfor the school.
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We're welcoming families in,we're getting to know their
children, we are taking thattime that is needed to get to
know the child's interests,things that can help motivate
them.
So that's a part of this workas a principal that I was also
doing, you know, even as ateacher, and then I also really
like to be authentic in the workthat I'm doing.
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So when I transitioned from akindergarten teacher into an
assistant principal, that was areally hard transition for me.
I really missed being aroundkids, kind of that closeness, of
having a special connectionwith 25 kids.
I didn't have that anymore.
But what I learned in the roleas an assistant principal you're
everywhere, right, you'rearound the building, you have
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your hands in every single thing.
You're working with bus drivers, you're working with custodial
staff members, you're workingwith your principal, you're
working with teachers, supportstaff.
There you really get your handson everyone, and so I love that
process.
I love building newrelationships with people.
I love figuring out where Icould help.
That's my favorite question howcan I help you?
What can I do to improve, right, improve, a situation?
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So just the two questions aloneis how I built relationships as
an assistant principal.
Then I had an opportunity tocontinue to branch out a little
bit, do some more systemic work,and that really set the
foundation for the principalship.
So, addition to the work that Iwas doing in my school at the
time as an assistant principal,really that district level work
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really helped me to see evenbroader than the school.
So when I transitioned into theprincipalship another big
transition sitting in theprincipal seat is very different
than sitting in the assistantprincipal seat, but in all of
the transitions I've just foundmy way, I've connected with
great mentors.
I always ask people who havedone the role how did they find
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success?
So that I can also find successin the role and taking feedback
.
You've mentioned being a coach,jeff.
I've been coached my whole lifeas a student athlete.
I know the value of a coach, Iknow the value of a mentor, and
so I try to be a really goodlistener when people are giving
me feedback, so that I don'ttake it personally.
I'm saying someone cares aboutme enough to give me feedback
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for me to improve.
I appreciate that and I want tomake the change, so that has
helped me in each one of mylevels.
I'm still continuing to learnas I transition into president
of the Maryland Association forElementary School Principals.
That's a new role that I'mtaking on in 2025, and I'm
extremely excited, hey.
Principal JL (08:12):
I really loved listening to and just hearing
how I can, I could really relateto where, when you were a
classroom teacher, really yourworld is that classroom right?
And then when you branch outinto the leadership, you're like
going, oh, I have to thinkoutside the classroom and more
into more, like, hey, teachersand students.
I think the one thing thatreally surprised me in the role
(08:35):
of being a principal was howmuch you know, I work with the
adults in the building and Istill work with some of the
students.
It's not like I forget aboutthem, but my goal is to help the
adults become better so thestudents can get the education
they deserve and become the bestthey can be.
And then working with familiesand parents and things like that
, that's just a whole otheranimal itself.
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So then you get into theseleadership roles.
Now you're thinking morebroadly and then you're thinking
about how does these thingsaffect each other?
And more broadly, and thenyou're thinking about how does
these things affect each otherso that I really can relate to
that A lot of people can relateto, kind of that transition from
teacher throughout thesedifferent leadership roles.
One thing that stands out aboutyour work is your deep
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commitment to mentorship andprofessional development.
You kind of hit on that alittle bit.
Now you're not just a leadingin your own school, but you're
guiding, inspiring other leadersthroughout your work as an
adjunct professor at McDanielCollege.
What advice would you have forteachers who are considering to
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move into administration?
Dr. Rachel Edoho-Eket (09:41):
Yeah well , jeff, you mentioned already,
you know you really have to likepeople.
You have to understand adultlearners and you have to also
understand children, and that'swhat's unique about our role as
school leaders that we do workwith everybody.
We work with the superintendent, we work with community members
, we work with parents, we workin my school.
(10:01):
I have three year old children,so I work as children as young
as three who are in preschooltheir first experience in school
and their families, and so youreally have to be a people
person.
So that's my first advice is toreally make sure that you enjoy
working with and alongsidepeople.
That's number one, and alsojust remembering that everything
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is a process.
Nothing happens overnight, and Ireally found the value in
looking at each of the stages ofmy career and finding value in
each of them.
They're all different roles,but what I found is they were
all interconnected in many ways.
There was leadership in everyrole, no matter if, at the time,
I had a leadership title or not.
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I was leading.
I was leading my classroom.
I might have been leading myteam as a high school student
and as a as a division onecollege athlete, but all of
those things had leadershipembedded in them and so
remembering who you are as aperson authentically.
What do you believe?
You know that's anotherimportant part of advice is
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knowing what your beliefs areand staying firm in those,
because this is a type of roleyou're going to hear from a lot
of different people with a lotof different perspectives, and
if you don't, if you're notcentered in what your beliefs
are and who you are as a person,you're going to be like going
with the wind, and so it'sreally important that you stay
centered on what your principlesare and let those guide you as
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you're making decisions for yournext levels of your career.
Principal JL (11:31):
Those are all great tips of advice, and
actually those are things thatI've learned throughout, you
know, my career as a principal,because there's no, you know,
quote unquote look to be a goodadministrator all the time,
right, Especially like I startedmy role as a principal seven
years ago, and so for me, I waslooking for other ways to, not
(11:52):
just within the networking thatI've done with that the regional
and the state level here inNebraska but also, you know,
just trying to find what else isout there, and so that kind of
going to lead me into the nextthing we're going to talk about
is, let's talk about your book,the Principal's Journey
Navigating the Path to SchoolLeadership.
(12:13):
What inspired you to write itand what did you hope readers
can take away from it?
Dr. Rachel Edoho-Eket (12:20):
Thank you , I have it right here.
There you go.
This is my book, and I reallywas inspired to write it because
when I would go around mydistrict and I would talk to
aspiring leaders, they would sayyou know, rachel, I like what
you're doing and I feel like Ican do that too, but I don't
know how to get through thisprocess.
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I don't know how to get pastthe interview, this process.
I don't know how to get pastthe interview.
I don't even know how to get myrecommendation letters in order
so that I can get to aninterview.
So when I heard that enoughtimes, I thought wouldn't it be
nice to have all thatinformation in one place,
because most leadership booksare written from the perspective
when someone is already in theposition.
(13:02):
Right, you're a principal.
Now what?
You're an assistant principal?
Here are some questions toconsider for you as you're in
the role.
But very few leadership bookswere written a step back, which
is how do you get to the rolethat you want?
And so that's where my bookfills an important void in the
educational field and space thatI really go through each of the
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steps in a very formulaic way.
So first I start off by talkingabout what are the benefits and
what are some of the challengesof being a school-based leader,
because I think that that'simportant to start.
It's important to know upfronthere are some things that are
going to challenge you, here aresome things that you might find
joy in, and if you finishreading chapter one and decide
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you still want to go to chaptertwo, then yes, let's talk about
the process.
So from there I talk aboutgetting a mentor, the importance
of having that mentor in yourlife.
I have absolutely amazingmentors and have had them each
leg of my life, and so my bookkind of serves as a mentor in
the absence of one.
If someone did not have someoneto tell them, here's your next
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step, try this next.
My book does that.
And so from there, I talk aboutinterview questions, cover
letters, how to create yourresume.
Keep it updated so that youdon't have to get ready.
You're already ready.
You stay ready.
That's really important.
These are things that sometimespeople say send me your resume,
are you ready?
Oh, no, I need a week or two toget things.
No, you need to be ready.
(14:29):
So I talk about that in thebook having your resume ready at
all times, because you don'tknow when the call is coming.
And then when you interview wetalk about interview questions.
What are some answers you needto know?
You know what are some thingsthat help you along that process
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.
And then, when you get the job,how do you create a positive
school culture?
Have difficult conversations,jeff, you and I talked about
this.
How do you have a work lifebalance?
This is a big job.
Being a school administrator isa big job, both APs, principals
, district leaders.
These are big jobs, and so mybook really helps to make it
plain for readers.
The feedback that I've receivedis that people like the flow of
the book.
It's easy for them.
I even have extensions from mybook.
I have a leadership course thatpeople can take with a free
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copy of my book, called theElevated Leadership Course.
It has videos and live coachingsessions, so I really try to
make it comprehensive for thosewho are ready to move into the
position within one to two years.
Principal JL (15:22):
Awesome.
Well, that's all greatinformation.
I wish this book existed when Iwas getting into it because I
would have been probably soakingup this information because it
was really.
It was really a challenge tolike, hey, you don't know what
you don't know until you don'tknow it.
In education or in leadershipat times, I went from being a
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classroom teacher in 11 yearsgoing into the principalship,
and it was really a journey tolearn through.
When I got an interview, it wasjust getting an interview was
challenging enough.
But then when I got aninterview.
How do I, you know, in a way,help people see me in that role
for them, how do I help peoplesee that I can do this job, and
(16:03):
the experiences I have canrelate and correlate to the
duties and the position you'regoing to ask me to do, and so I
think that's really importantfor people to have is this type
of a book to know how to do that, and I really like it because I
do have inspiring educationalleaders that listen to this
podcast, and if you're one ofthem I think of one right off
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the top of my head that I knowlistens to this podcast get this
book.
This will help you becauseyou're going to become a brand
new principal next year and youknow who I'm talking about, and
so really, I would encourage youto look up Dr Rachel's work,
because this will be veryhelpful for you in your journey
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as a educational leader as younavigate that.
So I want to put that plug inthere for you, because I do know
that for a fact that I do havesome people that aren't
principals yet, but they'regoing to become them, and so I'd
really like to really highlightyour work and have them maybe
give you a follow and give yourbook a read to help them become,
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you know, the best principalthey can be, because we didn't
have this, I would say, five,six, seven years ago and there's
more out there and I wantpeople to have that opportunity
to become, you know, even have abetter start than we did, and
so I think that's important andI think that's how we can grow
our educators in the future aswell.
(17:27):
So thank you for sharing.
That's really great information.
Thank you, let's talk about inaddition to being a school
leader and author, you're also akeynote speaker, right, I think
you just you did some speaking,you know, not too long ago, I
know.
So share your message with theaudience across the country.
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What are the topics you're mostpassionate about and, when
speaking to educators, what arethe things you really highlight?
Dr. Rachel Edoho-Eket (17:57):
So I really am passionate about
finding joy in this role.
This is a very, very hard timein education for teachers, for
administrators, for districtleaders, universities anyone who
is in education.
This is a tough time, and I'msaying that as someone who was a
new principal during COVID-19.
So that was six years ago.
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2019, 2020 was my first year asa principal and it almost broke
me, and so I really like tothink about how can we highlight
the wonderful things that aregoing on in our schools, because
, make note of it, every schoolhas amazing things happening
every single day.
Children are learning every day.
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Children are making connectionswith their teachers every
single day.
Families are happy that theirchildren are having great
educational experiences inschool, and we need to do a
better job of highlighting that,because I think each school
leader is in charge of, like, Iwould say, the mayor of the
school the messaging right.
So when we put out the greatthings that are happening, it's
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very hard for other people tosay, oh, that's not happening in
the schools.
Nope, here are pictures, hereare events.
Go on our school website.
So a part of my work is reallyabout spreading the joy and when
we do have the times when we'rein low morale which we all do
then what are some strategiesthat we can use to help improve
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that situation for teachers, foreducators, for leaders?
Because the main thing is weneed people to show up every day
on behalf of our children, andif everyone quits, then we don't
have anybody to do this work.
So part of my message is whatcan we do for ourselves?
How can we have a balance inour life, a perspective that
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allows us to come back to thiswork and serve children every
single day, to serve ourstudents and our staff?
So that's one thing I love totalk about is finding joy in the
role.
I also love to talk about thatbalance in our lives.
Right, as you mentioned, I do doa lot of things in addition to
being a full-time workingprincipal.
That's my first job and my mostimportant job.
But I'm also a wife, I'm also amother, I have a speaking
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career, I am an author, I amtaking on new leadership roles
under the NAESP umbrella.
So there are lots of thingsthat I'm working on, that I'm
interested in, and what I'velearned through this whole
process is that we can do manythings Well.
We don't have to be pigeonholedinto one area you can
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definitely connect with people,find out what they're doing,
figure out what you cancontribute into the work.
Even just starting there, whatcan I contribute into the work?
You'd be surprised how muchmore work and opportunities come
to you.
And so that's what I've learnedis really through that process
of meeting people and addingvalue, that I've had more
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opportunities to do that more,and I love that.
That has actually reinvigoratedme and given me more energy to
come back to do the work everysingle day.
Principal JL (20:58):
Oh man, you hit a lot of great things there.
I love how you talk aboutfinding the joy in the work.
I know for me, I just love it.
Like I wasn't someone that saidI'm going to become an educator
.
I took the tenure out to finishmy undergrad because of being
in the military and, you know,working in a factory I learned
through this one.
I don't know if I want to dothis.
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This wasn't my passion.
But once I found coaching andfound my passion in education,
finding that joy is reallyimportant to think about.
Even, I'll be honest, just thispast week I had to sit there
and think about why am I doingwhat?
I'm doing great things that arehappening in the role, because
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there's times where you just getbeat down by.
You know just outsidecircumstances that come into
your building, that you have totake care of, and you know
talking about having thosedifficult conversations and
having to work with adults, notjust the students.
That can be stressful, that canbe strenuous, that could be
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hard because you're going tohave to have those difficult
conversations with those staffmembers and that sometimes gets
you defeated.
So I love how you help peoplefind the joy and keep staying
invigorated and wanting tocontinue the mission, because I
think that's really importantpiece.
With people stepping away fromeducation, how can you help them
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find the joy in what they do?
Because people that get intoeducation do it because they
enjoy it.
They want to help people.
There's this common thread thatI hear from each guest is I
just enjoy it, I just love it.
And being able to remind themof their, in a way, their why,
but to remind them of their in away, their why, but to remind
them of that is really important.
(22:43):
I think that's awesome thatyou're helping those people do
that, because sometimes we needthose reminders.
So I appreciate the workthey're doing on that and thank
you for that.
And I love the fact that youcould talk about the different
roles that you do helps you stayinvigorated and passionate
about what you do, because, I'llbe honest, I've learned a lot
(23:05):
by having guests on my show towhere it's helped me stay, you
know, engaged in, like you knowwhat.
There's some great things outthere and I'm learning from
these people and I'm bringingthem back to my building and
implementing some things thatI've learned, and so that is the
cool part about being able tobranch out and work with people
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and connect at a different level.
So, you know, thank you forthat information.
And you kind of touched on somethings on that work-life
balance.
I think that's really importantto have that understand that
you have different hats andthere's times to turn them off
and turn them on and know whathat you're wearing at the time,
so you can, you know, maintainbeing present with your family
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as well as present in your work.
So thank you for sharing thatinformation.
You've had really an impressivecareer.
You know you're clearlypassionate about making a
difference in education at alllevels is what I'm hearing.
You know you talk clearlypassionate about making a
difference in education at alllevels is what I'm hearing.
You know you talk aboutleadership, not just education
leadership, but in the classroomand all different levels.
(24:09):
You know, as we wrap up, what'sone piece of advice you would
like to leave for educationalleaders out there that are
listening to this episode.
Dr. Rachel Edoho-Eket (24:21):
I would say keep doing the work.
I know that that's a very basicmessage, but it's an important
one.
Everything that we do matters.
You may not get an award, youmay not have, you know, the news
stations coming to your schoolevery day and talking about
these great things, but thatdoesn't make it any less
important.
Every contribution that we maketo a teacher, every
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contribution we make to a staffmember, anything that we can
contribute to our families andto our students, has lasting
impacts that we will never knowhow far they extend and that is
what excites me about this workWe'll never quite know.
Every now and then we might havesomeone say thank you.
We might have someone from ourpast to say you meant something
(25:03):
to me.
Every now and then we get those, which is beautiful, but
ultimately we're here to serve,and so my advice is just to
continue to do the work, nomatter what is going on around
you.
Make sure that you are hyperfocused on children, that you
are hyper focused on your staff,that you are hyper-focused on
your staff, that you're alsofocused on yourself, right, that
(25:25):
you are doing thatself-improvement, so that you
can come back to this work everyday and have a level of
satisfaction in what you'redoing, so I also just want to
say thank you.
I know that's not advice, but Ido want to express my gratitude
.
This work is hard.
This work is not easy.
There are some days that youdon do want to express my
gratitude.
This work is hard.
This work is not easy.
There are some days that youdon't want to come back to work.
That's the truth of the matter.
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But showing up makes adifference for everyone that we
serve, and so just keep showingup.
Principal JL (25:53):
Awesome.
Hey, you know what?
I find that a very impactful,you know, advice really is just
showing up, being present andjust knowing that your work does
matter.
Even in the moment it doesn'tfeel that way.
We all have had experiences ifyou've been in this field long
enough of someone coming backand saying this impacted me and
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this is how it impacted me,thank you, and that's something
to remember.
It will happen in this, andthose are the moments you're
like going oh, that makes youfeel like, yes, I want to keep
doing this because I know what Ido matters and it impacts
people and I really appreciateyou know you coming on the
podcast and sharing youreducational journey and the
(26:38):
great things that you're doingto help educational leaders and
teachers and inspiring leadersfor our future.
So, dr Rachel, I reallyappreciate you and thank you for
being on the podcast today.
As we go, is there any finalthings you'd like to say?
Dr. Rachel Edoho-Eket (26:57):
Yes, I'd like to say thank you.
Thank you, jeff, for having me.
This is important to me.
I'm really honored to have hadthe opportunity to talk with
your audience today and I'd loveto stay connected with anyone
in the audience.
I'm on Twitter at RachelEdoho-Eket.
I'm on Instagram at thePrincipal's Journey.
I'm also on LinkedIn, Dr RachelEdoho-Eket and I have a website
(27:22):
, racheledohoeket.
com, with lots of free resourcesand things that people might
find helpful along theirleadership journeys.
So thank you for stayingconnected
Principal JL (27:28):
Awesome.
And just so people know, I'lltake that information and put it
in the show notes so it makesit real easy for them to find
you and they can just go down tothe show notes and click on the
links that you just provided.
So thank you for that.
Well, we're going to go ahead.
We're going to ride off intothe sunset on this episode.
You know, Dr Rachel, I reallyappreciate you being on the
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podcast.
Until next time, always be 1%better.
Wow, what an incredibleconversation with Dr Rachel
Edoho-Eket.
Her journey is such aninspiration and I love the way
she leads with passion, purposeand mentorship.
If you haven't already, be sureto check out her book, the
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Principal's Journey, and followher work.
You won't regret it.
Thank you for tuning in to theEducational Leadership Podcast.
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it.
Until next time, remember to be1% better.
I am thrilled to welcome Dr Rachel Edoho-Eket to
the show.
She is a respected principal,public speaker, author and the
2025 president of the MarylandAssociation of Elementary School
Principals.
With decades in education, sheis known for her strong
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educational leadership,mentorship and passion for
student success.
Dr Edoho-E ket leads a nationalBlue Ribbon School in Maryland
and also serves as an adjunctprofessor at McDaniel College,
helping shape the nextgeneration of school leaders.
Her work, the Principal'sJourney, offers practical
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guidance for educators steppinginto leadership roles.
Her work is grounded inbuilding meaningful
relationships and inspiringexcellence at every level.
Now let's get into theconversation with Dr Rachel
Edoho-Eket.
Hey, everybody, welcome back toanother episode of the
(01:10):
Educational Leadership Podcastwith Principal JL.
I am excited to have Dr RachelEdoho-Eket in the house today
for our episode.
So welcome, Dr.
Rachel, to the show.
Dr. Rachel Edoho-Eket (01:25):
Thank you so much for having me.
Jeff, I'm ready to get into thisconversation today.
Principal JL (01:32):
All right, we're going to go ahead and we're
going to dive right into it.
It's a question I ask everybodywhat inspired you to pursue a
career in education?
Dr. Rachel Edoho-Eket (01:43):
Well, first of all, my family is a
family of educators, so I'vealways known that I wanted to be
a teacher.
It's always been a part of mylife.
My parents definitely instilledthe importance of having a good
education and my brother and Iand my grandmother was an
educator in the Baltimore Citypublic school system for over 30
(02:05):
years, so I grew up reallywatching her, helping her set up
her classrooms.
She also was a school librarian, so I would go into her
elementary school and help herset up the library and doing the
Dewey Decimal System as a youngchild and I really just loved
the school environment.
And then, as a student, I lovedbeing in school.
(02:26):
I was one of those children thateven when it was summer break,
I was ready to come back.
I miss my friends, I miss myteachers.
I wanted to be around the staffmembers.
I absolutely adored myprincipal.
Shout out to Mr Slakum, who wasmy kindergarten.
He was my elementary schoolprincipal when I was growing up.
We still are in contact todayand he's someone who I really
(02:49):
admire.
So in my work as a principal Ialways try to think about how I
felt as a child, how much Iloved feeling welcomed in school
and having that sense ofbelonging, and that's something
that I'm passionate aboutproviding all of the children
that I serve in school as well.
Principal JL (03:05):
Awesome.
That's really great to hearthere's a lot of educators out
there that kind of get inspiredby the generation before.
For me, I wasn't quite thatlucky.
I didn't have really anybodythat was in education.
I kind of found it throughcoaching and when I found my
passion for coaching, then Ifound my passion for education.
(03:25):
So I really love to heareverybody's unique uh stories
when, how to get into, what gotthem going.
So what did you have?
Sorry to interrupt?
Oh yeah, go ahead.
Um, yeah, yeah, I've coached.
You know I was a head footballcoach, head wrestling coach.
I've coached track and thefunny thing about track I was a
throwers coach and I was not athrower in high school, I was a
(03:46):
long distance runner, so it waskind of one of those I was track
as well.
Dr. Rachel Edoho-Eket (03:53):
It's a great sport.
One of my favorites.
Principal JL (03:55):
I enjoyed doing it but at the same time it was
just one of those deals wherethey just needed someone to
coach the throwers.
They didn't have anybody and Ijust kind of learned up on it
and actually it was a reallygreat experience because I got
to coach a lot of great kids inmy experience from football
wrestling into track, and sothat was really where I started
(04:18):
to like, go, hey, I want tobecome an educator because I get
a coach Right.
Like, go, hey, I want to becomean educator because I get a
coach right and that kind ofbuilt my you know leadership
skills into you know, becoming aprincipal.
Today, dr Rachel, you have hada dynamic career.
You've been, you know, goingfrom a teacher into
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instructional leader, assistantprincipal and now a principal of
a national blue ribbon school.
What are some of the keymoments and lessons that help
you shape your leadership stylealong the way?
I'd love to hear kind of thattransition from teacher into
those different roles.
Dr. Rachel Edoho-Eket (04:56):
Yeah.
So I love being a teacher.
That's number one.
I was a kindergarten teacher inearly childhood kindergarten
first and second for half of mycareer, so I really enjoy the
process of teaching children.
I love working with colleagues,connecting with really strong
educators, learning from people,and that has always been a part
of my story and each role Ifound value in a different way.
(05:19):
So definitely as a teacher Iloved connecting with families.
Oftentimes a kindergartenteacher is that child's first
teacher, that ambassador to theschool, and I always share with
my early childhood colleagues.
There's really not a bigdifference between being a
kindergarten teacher and aprincipal.
I know that that soundsridiculous, but it's true.
In both cases we're ambassadorsfor the school.
(05:42):
We're welcoming families in,we're getting to know their
children, we are taking thattime that is needed to get to
know the child's interests,things that can help motivate
them.
So that's a part of this workas a principal that I was also
doing, you know, even as ateacher, and then I also really
like to be authentic in the workthat I'm doing.
(06:04):
So when I transitioned from akindergarten teacher into an
assistant principal, that was areally hard transition for me.
I really missed being aroundkids, kind of that closeness, of
having a special connectionwith 25 kids.
I didn't have that anymore.
But what I learned in the roleas an assistant principal you're
everywhere, right, you'rearound the building, you have
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your hands in every single thing.
You're working with bus drivers, you're working with custodial
staff members, you're workingwith your principal, you're
working with teachers, supportstaff.
There you really get your handson everyone, and so I love that
process.
I love building newrelationships with people.
I love figuring out where Icould help.
That's my favorite question howcan I help you?
What can I do to improve, right, improve, a situation?
(06:48):
So just the two questions aloneis how I built relationships as
an assistant principal.
Then I had an opportunity tocontinue to branch out a little
bit, do some more systemic work,and that really set the
foundation for the principalship.
So, addition to the work that Iwas doing in my school at the
time as an assistant principal,really that district level work
(07:09):
really helped me to see evenbroader than the school.
So when I transitioned into theprincipalship another big
transition sitting in theprincipal seat is very different
than sitting in the assistantprincipal seat, but in all of
the transitions I've just foundmy way, I've connected with
great mentors.
I always ask people who havedone the role how did they find
(07:31):
success?
So that I can also find successin the role and taking feedback
.
You've mentioned being a coach,jeff.
I've been coached my whole lifeas a student athlete.
I know the value of a coach, Iknow the value of a mentor, and
so I try to be a really goodlistener when people are giving
me feedback, so that I don'ttake it personally.
I'm saying someone cares aboutme enough to give me feedback
(07:53):
for me to improve.
I appreciate that and I want tomake the change, so that has
helped me in each one of mylevels.
I'm still continuing to learnas I transition into president
of the Maryland Association forElementary School Principals.
That's a new role that I'mtaking on in 2025, and I'm
extremely excited, hey.
Principal JL (08:12):
I really loved listening to and just hearing
how I can, I could really relateto where, when you were a
classroom teacher, really yourworld is that classroom right?
And then when you branch outinto the leadership, you're like
going, oh, I have to thinkoutside the classroom and more
into more, like, hey, teachersand students.
I think the one thing thatreally surprised me in the role
(08:35):
of being a principal was howmuch you know, I work with the
adults in the building and Istill work with some of the
students.
It's not like I forget aboutthem, but my goal is to help the
adults become better so thestudents can get the education
they deserve and become the bestthey can be.
And then working with familiesand parents and things like that
, that's just a whole otheranimal itself.
(08:56):
So then you get into theseleadership roles.
Now you're thinking morebroadly and then you're thinking
about how does these thingsaffect each other?
And more broadly, and thenyou're thinking about how does
these things affect each otherso that I really can relate to
that A lot of people can relateto, kind of that transition from
teacher throughout thesedifferent leadership roles.
One thing that stands out aboutyour work is your deep
(09:17):
commitment to mentorship andprofessional development.
You kind of hit on that alittle bit.
Now you're not just a leadingin your own school, but you're
guiding, inspiring other leadersthroughout your work as an
adjunct professor at McDanielCollege.
What advice would you have forteachers who are considering to
(09:38):
move into administration?
Dr. Rachel Edoho-Eket (09:41):
Yeah well , jeff, you mentioned already,
you know you really have to likepeople.
You have to understand adultlearners and you have to also
understand children, and that'swhat's unique about our role as
school leaders that we do workwith everybody.
We work with the superintendent, we work with community members
, we work with parents, we workin my school.
(10:01):
I have three year old children,so I work as children as young
as three who are in preschooltheir first experience in school
and their families, and so youreally have to be a people
person.
So that's my first advice is toreally make sure that you enjoy
working with and alongsidepeople.
That's number one, and alsojust remembering that everything
(10:23):
is a process.
Nothing happens overnight, and Ireally found the value in
looking at each of the stages ofmy career and finding value in
each of them.
They're all different roles,but what I found is they were
all interconnected in many ways.
There was leadership in everyrole, no matter if, at the time,
I had a leadership title or not.
(10:44):
I was leading.
I was leading my classroom.
I might have been leading myteam as a high school student
and as a as a division onecollege athlete, but all of
those things had leadershipembedded in them and so
remembering who you are as aperson authentically.
What do you believe?
You know that's anotherimportant part of advice is
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knowing what your beliefs areand staying firm in those,
because this is a type of roleyou're going to hear from a lot
of different people with a lotof different perspectives, and
if you don't, if you're notcentered in what your beliefs
are and who you are as a person,you're going to be like going
with the wind, and so it'sreally important that you stay
centered on what your principlesare and let those guide you as
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you're making decisions for yournext levels of your career.
Principal JL (11:31):
Those are all great tips of advice, and
actually those are things thatI've learned throughout, you
know, my career as a principal,because there's no, you know,
quote unquote look to be a goodadministrator all the time,
right, Especially like I startedmy role as a principal seven
years ago, and so for me, I waslooking for other ways to, not
(11:52):
just within the networking thatI've done with that the regional
and the state level here inNebraska but also, you know,
just trying to find what else isout there, and so that kind of
going to lead me into the nextthing we're going to talk about
is, let's talk about your book,the Principal's Journey
Navigating the Path to SchoolLeadership.
(12:13):
What inspired you to write itand what did you hope readers
can take away from it?
Dr. Rachel Edoho-Eket (12:20):
Thank you , I have it right here.
There you go.
This is my book, and I reallywas inspired to write it because
when I would go around mydistrict and I would talk to
aspiring leaders, they would sayyou know, rachel, I like what
you're doing and I feel like Ican do that too, but I don't
know how to get through thisprocess.
(12:41):
I don't know how to get pastthe interview, this process.
I don't know how to get pastthe interview.
I don't even know how to get myrecommendation letters in order
so that I can get to aninterview.
So when I heard that enoughtimes, I thought wouldn't it be
nice to have all thatinformation in one place,
because most leadership booksare written from the perspective
when someone is already in theposition.
(13:02):
Right, you're a principal.
Now what?
You're an assistant principal?
Here are some questions toconsider for you as you're in
the role.
But very few leadership bookswere written a step back, which
is how do you get to the rolethat you want?
And so that's where my bookfills an important void in the
educational field and space thatI really go through each of the
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steps in a very formulaic way.
So first I start off by talkingabout what are the benefits and
what are some of the challengesof being a school-based leader,
because I think that that'simportant to start.
It's important to know upfronthere are some things that are
going to challenge you, here aresome things that you might find
joy in, and if you finishreading chapter one and decide
(13:45):
you still want to go to chaptertwo, then yes, let's talk about
the process.
So from there I talk aboutgetting a mentor, the importance
of having that mentor in yourlife.
I have absolutely amazingmentors and have had them each
leg of my life, and so my bookkind of serves as a mentor in
the absence of one.
If someone did not have someoneto tell them, here's your next
(14:07):
step, try this next.
My book does that.
And so from there, I talk aboutinterview questions, cover
letters, how to create yourresume.
Keep it updated so that youdon't have to get ready.
You're already ready.
You stay ready.
That's really important.
These are things that sometimespeople say send me your resume,
are you ready?
Oh, no, I need a week or two toget things.
No, you need to be ready.
(14:29):
So I talk about that in thebook having your resume ready at
all times, because you don'tknow when the call is coming.
And then when you interview wetalk about interview questions.
What are some answers you needto know?
You know what are some thingsthat help you along that process
(14:50):
.
And then, when you get the job,how do you create a positive
school culture?
Have difficult conversations,jeff, you and I talked about
this.
How do you have a work lifebalance?
This is a big job.
Being a school administrator isa big job, both APs, principals
, district leaders.
These are big jobs, and so mybook really helps to make it
plain for readers.
The feedback that I've receivedis that people like the flow of
the book.
It's easy for them.
I even have extensions from mybook.
I have a leadership course thatpeople can take with a free
(15:11):
copy of my book, called theElevated Leadership Course.
It has videos and live coachingsessions, so I really try to
make it comprehensive for thosewho are ready to move into the
position within one to two years.
Principal JL (15:22):
Awesome.
Well, that's all greatinformation.
I wish this book existed when Iwas getting into it because I
would have been probably soakingup this information because it
was really.
It was really a challenge tolike, hey, you don't know what
you don't know until you don'tknow it.
In education or in leadershipat times, I went from being a
(15:43):
classroom teacher in 11 yearsgoing into the principalship,
and it was really a journey tolearn through.
When I got an interview, it wasjust getting an interview was
challenging enough.
But then when I got aninterview.
How do I, you know, in a way,help people see me in that role
for them, how do I help peoplesee that I can do this job, and
(16:03):
the experiences I have canrelate and correlate to the
duties and the position you'regoing to ask me to do, and so I
think that's really importantfor people to have is this type
of a book to know how to do that, and I really like it because I
do have inspiring educationalleaders that listen to this
podcast, and if you're one ofthem I think of one right off
(16:24):
the top of my head that I knowlistens to this podcast get this
book.
This will help you becauseyou're going to become a brand
new principal next year and youknow who I'm talking about, and
so really, I would encourage youto look up Dr Rachel's work,
because this will be veryhelpful for you in your journey
(16:45):
as a educational leader as younavigate that.
So I want to put that plug inthere for you, because I do know
that for a fact that I do havesome people that aren't
principals yet, but they'regoing to become them, and so I'd
really like to really highlightyour work and have them maybe
give you a follow and give yourbook a read to help them become,
(17:05):
you know, the best principalthey can be, because we didn't
have this, I would say, five,six, seven years ago and there's
more out there and I wantpeople to have that opportunity
to become, you know, even have abetter start than we did, and
so I think that's important andI think that's how we can grow
our educators in the future aswell.
(17:27):
So thank you for sharing.
That's really great information.
Thank you, let's talk about inaddition to being a school
leader and author, you're also akeynote speaker, right, I think
you just you did some speaking,you know, not too long ago, I
know.
So share your message with theaudience across the country.
(17:48):
What are the topics you're mostpassionate about and, when
speaking to educators, what arethe things you really highlight?
Dr. Rachel Edoho-Eket (17:57):
So I really am passionate about
finding joy in this role.
This is a very, very hard timein education for teachers, for
administrators, for districtleaders, universities anyone who
is in education.
This is a tough time, and I'msaying that as someone who was a
new principal during COVID-19.
So that was six years ago.
(18:18):
2019, 2020 was my first year asa principal and it almost broke
me, and so I really like tothink about how can we highlight
the wonderful things that aregoing on in our schools, because
, make note of it, every schoolhas amazing things happening
every single day.
Children are learning every day.
(18:39):
Children are making connectionswith their teachers every
single day.
Families are happy that theirchildren are having great
educational experiences inschool, and we need to do a
better job of highlighting that,because I think each school
leader is in charge of, like, Iwould say, the mayor of the
school the messaging right.
So when we put out the greatthings that are happening, it's
(19:02):
very hard for other people tosay, oh, that's not happening in
the schools.
Nope, here are pictures, hereare events.
Go on our school website.
So a part of my work is reallyabout spreading the joy and when
we do have the times when we'rein low morale which we all do
then what are some strategiesthat we can use to help improve
(19:22):
that situation for teachers, foreducators, for leaders?
Because the main thing is weneed people to show up every day
on behalf of our children, andif everyone quits, then we don't
have anybody to do this work.
So part of my message is whatcan we do for ourselves?
How can we have a balance inour life, a perspective that
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allows us to come back to thiswork and serve children every
single day, to serve ourstudents and our staff?
So that's one thing I love totalk about is finding joy in the
role.
I also love to talk about thatbalance in our lives.
Right, as you mentioned, I do doa lot of things in addition to
being a full-time workingprincipal.
That's my first job and my mostimportant job.
But I'm also a wife, I'm also amother, I have a speaking
(20:08):
career, I am an author, I amtaking on new leadership roles
under the NAESP umbrella.
So there are lots of thingsthat I'm working on, that I'm
interested in, and what I'velearned through this whole
process is that we can do manythings Well.
We don't have to be pigeonholedinto one area you can
(20:30):
definitely connect with people,find out what they're doing,
figure out what you cancontribute into the work.
Even just starting there, whatcan I contribute into the work?
You'd be surprised how muchmore work and opportunities come
to you.
And so that's what I've learnedis really through that process
of meeting people and addingvalue, that I've had more
(20:51):
opportunities to do that more,and I love that.
That has actually reinvigoratedme and given me more energy to
come back to do the work everysingle day.
Principal JL (20:58):
Oh man, you hit a lot of great things there.
I love how you talk aboutfinding the joy in the work.
I know for me, I just love it.
Like I wasn't someone that saidI'm going to become an educator
.
I took the tenure out to finishmy undergrad because of being
in the military and, you know,working in a factory I learned
through this one.
I don't know if I want to dothis.
(21:19):
This wasn't my passion.
But once I found coaching andfound my passion in education,
finding that joy is reallyimportant to think about.
Even, I'll be honest, just thispast week I had to sit there
and think about why am I doingwhat?
I'm doing great things that arehappening in the role, because
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there's times where you just getbeat down by.
You know just outsidecircumstances that come into
your building, that you have totake care of, and you know
talking about having thosedifficult conversations and
having to work with adults, notjust the students.
That can be stressful, that canbe strenuous, that could be
(22:01):
hard because you're going tohave to have those difficult
conversations with those staffmembers and that sometimes gets
you defeated.
So I love how you help peoplefind the joy and keep staying
invigorated and wanting tocontinue the mission, because I
think that's really importantpiece.
With people stepping away fromeducation, how can you help them
(22:22):
find the joy in what they do?
Because people that get intoeducation do it because they
enjoy it.
They want to help people.
There's this common thread thatI hear from each guest is I
just enjoy it, I just love it.
And being able to remind themof their, in a way, their why,
but to remind them of their in away, their why, but to remind
them of that is really important.
(22:43):
I think that's awesome thatyou're helping those people do
that, because sometimes we needthose reminders.
So I appreciate the workthey're doing on that and thank
you for that.
And I love the fact that youcould talk about the different
roles that you do helps you stayinvigorated and passionate
about what you do, because, I'llbe honest, I've learned a lot
(23:05):
by having guests on my show towhere it's helped me stay, you
know, engaged in, like you knowwhat.
There's some great things outthere and I'm learning from
these people and I'm bringingthem back to my building and
implementing some things thatI've learned, and so that is the
cool part about being able tobranch out and work with people
(23:26):
and connect at a different level.
So, you know, thank you forthat information.
And you kind of touched on somethings on that work-life
balance.
I think that's really importantto have that understand that
you have different hats andthere's times to turn them off
and turn them on and know whathat you're wearing at the time,
so you can, you know, maintainbeing present with your family
(23:48):
as well as present in your work.
So thank you for sharing thatinformation.
You've had really an impressivecareer.
You know you're clearlypassionate about making a
difference in education at alllevels is what I'm hearing.
You know you talk clearlypassionate about making a
difference in education at alllevels is what I'm hearing.
You know you talk aboutleadership, not just education
leadership, but in the classroomand all different levels.
(24:09):
You know, as we wrap up, what'sone piece of advice you would
like to leave for educationalleaders out there that are
listening to this episode.
Dr. Rachel Edoho-Eket (24:21):
I would say keep doing the work.
I know that that's a very basicmessage, but it's an important
one.
Everything that we do matters.
You may not get an award, youmay not have, you know, the news
stations coming to your schoolevery day and talking about
these great things, but thatdoesn't make it any less
important.
Every contribution that we maketo a teacher, every
(24:43):
contribution we make to a staffmember, anything that we can
contribute to our families andto our students, has lasting
impacts that we will never knowhow far they extend and that is
what excites me about this workWe'll never quite know.
Every now and then we might havesomeone say thank you.
We might have someone from ourpast to say you meant something
(25:03):
to me.
Every now and then we get those, which is beautiful, but
ultimately we're here to serve,and so my advice is just to
continue to do the work, nomatter what is going on around
you.
Make sure that you are hyperfocused on children, that you
are hyper focused on your staff,that you are hyper-focused on
your staff, that you're alsofocused on yourself, right, that
(25:25):
you are doing thatself-improvement, so that you
can come back to this work everyday and have a level of
satisfaction in what you'redoing, so I also just want to
say thank you.
I know that's not advice, but Ido want to express my gratitude
.
This work is hard.
This work is not easy.
There are some days that youdon do want to express my
gratitude.
This work is hard.
This work is not easy.
There are some days that youdon't want to come back to work.
That's the truth of the matter.
(25:47):
But showing up makes adifference for everyone that we
serve, and so just keep showingup.
Principal JL (25:53):
Awesome.
Hey, you know what?
I find that a very impactful,you know, advice really is just
showing up, being present andjust knowing that your work does
matter.
Even in the moment it doesn'tfeel that way.
We all have had experiences ifyou've been in this field long
enough of someone coming backand saying this impacted me and
(26:15):
this is how it impacted me,thank you, and that's something
to remember.
It will happen in this, andthose are the moments you're
like going oh, that makes youfeel like, yes, I want to keep
doing this because I know what Ido matters and it impacts
people and I really appreciateyou know you coming on the
podcast and sharing youreducational journey and the
(26:38):
great things that you're doingto help educational leaders and
teachers and inspiring leadersfor our future.
So, dr Rachel, I reallyappreciate you and thank you for
being on the podcast today.
As we go, is there any finalthings you'd like to say?
Dr. Rachel Edoho-Eket (26:57):
Yes, I'd like to say thank you.
Thank you, jeff, for having me.
This is important to me.
I'm really honored to have hadthe opportunity to talk with
your audience today and I'd loveto stay connected with anyone
in the audience.
I'm on Twitter at RachelEdoho-Eket.
I'm on Instagram at thePrincipal's Journey.
I'm also on LinkedIn, Dr RachelEdoho-Eket and I have a website
(27:22):
, racheledohoeket.
com, with lots of free resourcesand things that people might
find helpful along theirleadership journeys.
So thank you for stayingconnected
Principal JL (27:28):
Awesome.
And just so people know, I'lltake that information and put it
in the show notes so it makesit real easy for them to find
you and they can just go down tothe show notes and click on the
links that you just provided.
So thank you for that.
Well, we're going to go ahead.
We're going to ride off intothe sunset on this episode.
You know, Dr Rachel, I reallyappreciate you being on the
(27:48):
podcast.
Until next time, always be 1%better.
Wow, what an incredibleconversation with Dr Rachel
Edoho-Eket.
Her journey is such aninspiration and I love the way
she leads with passion, purposeand mentorship.
If you haven't already, be sureto check out her book, the
(28:10):
Principal's Journey, and followher work.
You won't regret it.
Thank you for tuning in to theEducational Leadership Podcast.
If you enjoyed this episode,don't forget to subscribe, leave
a review and share it withothers who would find value in
it.
Until next time, remember to be1% better.
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