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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hello everybody, welcome to today's episode of
Effortlessly Productive.
I am joined today by a veryspecial guest, my dear, dear
friend, tricia.
She is literally like mybusiness ride or die, plus just
like one of my very best friends.
(00:41):
We actually live all the wayacross the country from each
other and actually in differentcountries, but we have met up in
person and also worked togetheronline for so many years now I
can't even remember how many sowe were introduced because she
went through the same life coachcertification that I did and we
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became master coaches as well.
So she is a certified masterlife performance and leadership
coach, just like me, and we havedone so much work together over
the years.
So I am so excited to have youhere, trisha, on this episode.
We have some really specialthings that we're going to be
talking about today, so I amgoing to let Trisha introduce
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herself first of all and justtell us what she does,
everything about her, and thenwe're going to dive into
Trisha's story with dealing withtechnology and in terms of,
like, the business side of allof that set up, and then we're
just going to have an amazingconversation for you here today.
So, trisha, take it away, tellus a little bit about who you
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are, what you do and just, yeah,all the things that make you so
amazing.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Yeah, it's been like three years and it's.
That's insane to me because,it's interesting how many times
we have these relationshipswhere it's like, where were you
before?
Like it doesn't feel like I'velived a life without you and
it's just, yeah, I just I lovethis and this growth and the
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conversation we get to havetoday Because you're like,
you're the base of this wholeconversation, like my whole
experience with tech is revolvedaround Annie, but I'm Trish
with a Y.
I used to feel like my parentshated me and spelling my name
different and just recently I'veowned that.
They actually knew that I wasgoing to be unique and that's
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been a really fun shift, soowning that I am the capacity
queen.
I work with people on elevatingtheir capacity, redefining what
it is going from max capacitybeing this place of like
pressure I can't take onanything else, including healing
myself, like I just havenothing left in me to operating
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from this place where we'reoperating at our highest
capacity and our highestcapacity is constantly ebbing
and flowing and it's just.
It's about finding an energeticflow in the chaos, in the times
when things are going good, sowe can stop this like high, low,
high, low and coming more tothis like baseline, which I
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think, especially asentrepreneurs, that's essential
to not be like I have all of theideas, I feel really good, and
then nobody's signing up,nobody's buying, nobody's doing
these things.
Like how can we be like I havethis idea and it's beautiful and
like maybe things aren't goingthe way that they are, but how
can I fix this and how can Ibring myself up?
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And it's just like coming intoriding the waves of business and
yourself and feeling good inyour body, doing all of it and,
of course, the subconscious sideof things, like breaking down
those patterns and identifyingwhat are the limiting beliefs we
have.
I'm not good at tech.
That was me like through andthrough when we first met in
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2022.
And we're doing, we're doingthese automations calls, like
you were teaching us how tocreate email sequences, like
things.
Now that I'm like this was themost basic stuff, like that was
foundational.
You weren't teaching us complexlike funnels and all of these
things.
Like it was.
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It was so foundational.
But for me, coming from ahospital background where we
just were given this like onecomputer system that we had to
learn and then that was it andthen doing the rest of the job,
coming into the entrepreneurworld where it's like I wear all
of the hats and I know so manypeople can relate to that in
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startup.
You don't have the money for aVA, you don't have the money for
somebody else to do yourwebsite.
Like, you are the one figuringit all out and we're getting on
these calls and you're trying to, you're trying to teach us
these things and I remember somany times just shutting my
video off and lying on the floorcrying I mean like I have to
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learn this, but like, oh my God,it's so over my head and it was
just I don't.
That was.
That was probably the most likepivotal moment for me in my
business stepping from this likeyou know that, like network
marketing, like I'm showing upbut all of the things are
provided for me into this worldwhere I had to decide like no,
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I'm going to be a CEO and itdoesn't matter that I don't like
it, that it doesn't feel good,like I have to figure this out,
but it felt like garbage in mybody for so long and it was just
yeah, you were, you did such agood job explaining everything,
but there was so much of me thatwas blocking it and I'm really
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excited to have the conversationaround that whole side of
things today, um, how weovercame that together.
Um, but yeah, also just like howdifferent it can be, even for
those in that like new startup,where they're like I don't know
what an email sequence is, whatis, what is a workflow, what is
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a funnel, like all of thesethings that are so brand new
outside of social media and evensocial media learning, like
every time it evolves into theupdates and we're like why, what
are reels?
Like, oh my God, but yeah, itdefinitely excited for today?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, me too.
Yeah, and it's funny you bringthat up because you know,
obviously everybody listening tothis podcast who has heard any
of my episodes knows that I amlike a tech expert and I have
been up on tech since, like wehad a computer in our house when
I was like nine years old,which was completely unheard of
at the time.
This was still in the 1980s.
(06:58):
I'm dating myself a little bitso like it's so familiar to me,
but there will sometimes beupdates where people are like
where, where is this?
And I so like it's so familiarto me.
But there will sometimes beupdates where people are like
where, where is this?
And I'm like I don't know, Ican't find it.
So like, no matter.
I think that's such an importantpoint like, no matter how much
of an expert you are and howmuch experience you have, there
are going to be times where youdive into something and it's
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like all those feelings rushback of, like I don't know where
this is, I can't find it.
It's like all those feelingsrush back of, like I don't know
where this is, I can't find it,it's not working the way it's
supposed to.
Like, even right before we hopon to record this.
I was helping a client and I'mlike I don't know why this
import isn't processing, butlike it's just stuck and we'll
figure it out.
Like it's that belief of likewe're going to figure it out,
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we're going to get it fixed.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
But like like I'm, we're gonna figure it out, we're
gonna get it fixed, but like,also, I don't know why it's not
working the way that it normallydoes right now.
So, yeah, I don't know why issuch a humbling?
Like, if you are the expert inyour business, you're the expert
in coaching.
You're like, put me on a call.
That was my biggest thing.
I was like I don't want to doany of this, I just want to
coach, and that was so hard.
I was like I don't know why Ican't figure this out.
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I don't know why this linkisn't working.
I don't know why people aren'tgetting reminders, like I said,
getting people that's like thecall starts in 24 hours and I'm
like, no, it starts in one hour,all those things like it's yeah
, I don't know why that's.
That's such a.
That's another good limitingbelief to unpack for sure.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Right, yeah, and so I know, like you had just said
something about like you.
You definitely had a like,almost like an identity shift.
It sounds like where you wentfrom like I'm this brand new
business person, or like I'mthis brand new business person,
or like I have my foundation andnetwork marketing, where
everything's handed to me, tothen embracing like no, I am the
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CEO and that means I need totake full ownership of
everything, even if there arethings in there that feel very
sticky and very uncomfortable,feel very sticky and very
uncomfortable, but I still amgoing to need to figure it out
and do it anyway, whether it'sme or whether it's like
eventually hiring somebody else,Like what was some of the other
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shifts that happened for you,like along the way to help that
identity shift.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Oh, that's a good question, because I feel like
sometimes it's so hard to putourselves back like like three
years.
Thinking about going back there.
I'm like I just remember cryingon the floor and telling myself
to like put on my CEO hat, pullup my big girl pants and all
these things.
But but thinking about whatshifted, I think some of it was
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I had to get okay with justexploring it.
Like I had to get okay with goto the software and just click
around, go through the things,like it's going to take time.
I think that that was thebiggest thing for me was it's
going to take time.
This is brand new, right?
Like I didn't go to school tolearn how to run a business or
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do management.
Like I'm teaching myself andeven though I have mentorship I
have people that are showing me,it is still me finding my own
flow and I think that was likeowning that piece that even if
somebody's teaching me, I stillhave to find what works for me.
I think that that's somethingthat as CEOs, as entrepreneurs,
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we always feel like we have todo it a certain way.
We have to do it the way thisperson is teaching things and
we're like I'm being taught howto do ads.
I have to do ads.
Taking that step back and alsoasking but is this what's most
important, or am I gettingdistracted with, like the next
shiny thing, when really I needto be doing this like basic
stuff first?
(10:56):
I think that One of the biggestshifts that I experienced was
coming to that place where I hadto just own what do I want?
What do I want for my clients?
Where am I at?
Like what feels good, evennewsletters.
I've tried to do a newsletterseries so many times and I do
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good for like four weeks andthen I'm like I just don't want
to do it.
So not pouring that time intothat, not because just don't
want to do it.
So not pouring that time intothat, not because I don't want
to learn it, but because,recognizing that even after I
learned it, even after Iunderstood it, it didn't feel
good, I'm like I just don't wantto be forced to do this all the
time.
And that's like that line whereI could decide am I avoiding
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this because it's hard to learn,or am I avoiding this because
it doesn't feel aligned?
And that was, that was probablythe biggest like big bang.
Now things are moving forward.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, that makes so much sense Because you know it.
It's such a tough distinctionand such kind of a blurry line
there of you know, I think,especially as more like
spiritual and creativeentrepreneurs, like we're coming
from, like that creative placeand a very intuitive place, and
we sometimes get these warningsigns in our body where it's
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like our body is saying no, butlike why is it saying no, when
are we feeling it and what isthe reason behind that?
And being able to dive in andexplore those kind of maybe
yucky feelings or difficult orchallenging situations of what
it is that's holding us back andthen being able to design our
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business how we want to do it,not just because somebody told
us to yeah, yeah, I remember myego being so hung up on how
embarrassing it was if thingsdidn't work out right like I
used to the very first programthat I ran.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Honestly, recording on zoom was too much for me at
the time and and I was like, ohmy God, I forgot to hit record.
And then I would feel soembarrassed when I'm in the
middle of a workshop and I haveto tell people like, oh no.
And then I remember I had thisclient message me and she was
like I pick up on that energy.
And she was like I know thatyou're new to this, but also
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like.
And she was like I know thatyou're new to this, but also
like nobody else knows, nobodyelse is aware of it, until you
start freaking out, until youstart panicking.
And it's funny because my egowas so concerned about like
you're going to get this wrongand people are going to know and
all of these things, and likethat's why I resisted a lot of
it.
But because of that like thatwas driving that energy that was
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then leaving me like, just like, just constantly waiting for
like the wind to blow the houseof cards down, and then it would
just like shift a little and Iwas the one that was causing it
to just collapse.
And, yeah, it's just.
It's that ego like checking inon Okay, well, what is the
problem if you put up a link andit doesn't work?
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Somebody might not register,somebody might message you.
I updated my website six monthsago and I had it on my Facebook
profile and somebody messaged me, I think two days ago, and
she's like by the way, the linkat the top of your Facebook is a
404 error and I was like, oh mygod, I didn't change it and I
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updated my website and it'd beso easy to go back and spiral
over.
Like how many people like wentto go buy from me and then
weren't able to buy from me?
And like that like scarcitymindset, when it's really like
she's probably the first personthat's clicked on it in six
months and she messaged meimmediately and then it's just
such an easy fix.
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But our ego is like, oh my god,like what if I mess up?
What are people gonna think?
What am I gonna miss out on?
Like that, like, oh, justjazzed in your body, I love?
I know we talked about likebeing you're nervous system
being hijacked.
That's what our ego does inthese, in these times where
we're learning something new andand we have to learn how to
overcome that.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, and I definitely experienced that too.
I think, especially as somebodywith an identity of, like I'm
really good at tech and I'm atech expert especially when
something is broken or doesn'twork right or people are having
trouble with it, like my egogoes completely off the rails.
Like my ego goes completely offthe rails.
And then I have to remember I'mlike how many like seven, eight
figure earners have I had?
Like I'm on their email listand they've sent me an email
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where a link doesn't work andthey have to send an oopsie.
Or like they forgot to eventype the email in.
I had that happen recently.
I'm like, oh, thank you,because it's not like.
That's proof that like we canstill have that success that we
want to have and reach for thosehigher places.
And not everything is going togo perfectly all the time.
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My husband and I always talkabout it's not like with his
business, it's not the mistakethat's happened, it's how you
handle that mistake afterwards.
So the ego check of like hey,like, hey, like.
This is not a freak out moment.
This is not a like go off therails.
This is not a like I need toquit my business because I just
suck like no and out like anapology email and be like, oh my
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gosh, like I made a mistake andhere's the correct link or
whatever.
But but it, yeah, it's.
It's wild how that goes.
Our ego just goes totallyhaywire.
And you're right, like we, youdo have that huge nervous system
reaction to that as well.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah, I love even I want to kind of touch on this
for a second too, because thisis another place that ego comes
in and I've been exploring thisnot just with myself but with my
clients is when you get thatemail from the seven, eight
figure earner, that's messed up.
Are you the person that's likeannoyed because that's your ego
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again being like see how stupidthis is, see how annoying this
is.
And then when you go sit down,it's got this proof that like
somebody else is going toreceive this and feel the.
When you go sit down, it's gotthis proof that like somebody
else is going to receive thisand feel the way that you felt.
But it like it's just your egoshowing up in another area
trying to keep you safe and andit's such a powerful shift to
come into your intuition, intoyour feminine energy, that has
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this like level of compassionfor the person on the other side
and you're like, oh, my god,I've done this so many times too
.
I feel for you, like I knowwhat you're experiencing right
now and also it makes me feel alittle bit better.
Not that I'm happy you wentthrough this and I hope that
your nervous system is handlingit well, but like, oh,
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validation, that I'm not theonly one.
So even just like checking,it's a constant check with your
system on.
Like, oh, validation that I'mnot the only one.
So even just like checking,it's a constant check with your
system on.
Like, do I feel like I'm likevibrating and I'm like, oh, my
God, like I'm freaking out, oris it like no, it's not a big
deal.
Like can I learn a lesson here?
And I know we were talkingabout the creative side of
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things and how much, if we'restuck in that like masculine
energy, if I have to prove thatI can do this, I need it to be
perfect.
Like I can't mess up.
That's why so many like soulthat entrepreneurs resist the
systems.
Right, and it's like I know foryou, you talk about like the
difference between delegatingand automating, like being able
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to recognize is this a zone of apotential zone of genius, that
if I just regulate my nervoussystem, I could learn it.
And then, ooh, maybe I'mactually really good at this,
versus the person that's like no, my nervous system is regulated
and, like me with newsletters,I just hate doing it.
I don't feel good in it, Ican't find my creative flow.
Like, then we come intodelegating right and that's like
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I know you do tons of done foryou stuff and like how much
permission does that give thatperson to go, like, create their
magic in all of these otherareas?
I'd love to hear, like, what'sthat transformation you see with
the people that say, like hardline in the sand, this isn't for
me.
It's not that I can't do it, Ijust straight up don't want to
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do it yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
So I think it's that um, like what you just brought
up of number one, knowing andtrusting yourself, like getting
very clear and like also veryregulated, and it's not like I
talk a lot on here about withour nervous system.
It's not that we're never goingto be in fight or flight, it's
not that we're never going to gointo freeze mode, but do we
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have the ability to come backout of that into that zone of
safety?
So once you have come back intothat zone of safety if it is a
full body hell, no, like I amnot going there.
I think, examining what was Itrying to do with that system,
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what was the purpose of that,that it was going to serve in my
business, and is there anotherway to accomplish that?
Or again, is it do I, does itstill need to get done and I can
just find somebody else to doit for me?
And I think it's it's reallycomes back to that CEO mindset
of taking ownership foreverything, like a good CEO is
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not operating from a completelywhacked out nervous system.
Number one like they know whenthey're not regulated and they
know to take a pause and theyknow that their best work is not
going to come through.
But I think it's totally okayto own the fact that my zone of
genius is coaching people.
My zone of genius is healingpeople.
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It's not building this techstuff, and if that is you, that
is okay.
I run into so many entrepreneursthat are full on experiencing
tech fatigue because they havebeen trying to do it all
themselves.
Their nervous system is so outof whack because they're trying
to do all of this.
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They're using systems that areall over the place that are
taking huge amounts of timeevery single week, and the more
time that takes, the more it'spulling them away from their
magic, and that's part of whythey feel so out of whack,
because they are literallyspending all their time doing
something that sucks theirenergy instead of the thing
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that's their magic and theirimpact that they want to share
with the world.
So, recognizing like I am fullon in tech fatigue right now I'm
using systems that don't work.
I'm using systems I don'tunderstand, and being able to
figure out how to number one,just regulate your nervous
system down to a place where youcan make really smart decisions
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about this does have to getdone.
This doesn't have to get done.
If it does have to get done.
How do we accomplish thatwithout it being me?
Can I automate it?
Can I have somebody else do itfor me?
Or is there something else Ican do instead that's going to
accomplish that same goal?
That does feel aligned, likeyou said, with, like the email
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newsletters.
Like, if that is not feelingaligned for you and you're
showing up on social mediasharing this, all this content
all the time, like, is socialmedia enough for your business?
And if it is lean into that, ifit's not enough and you do want
to be doing email marketing,can you find somebody that can
take all of that social mediacontent and turn it into email
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newsletters and write them andsend them out for you?
How can we do this?
Can we use AI to help us withpart of that process?
There's so many different waysto solve it, but until we come
into that place of regulationand then are able to reflect on
what our goal is, why we feellike we have to do this so badly
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, that, like, have to word, orneed to, or should like all that
things right.
So like, why is that coming up?
And if it does serve a purpose,like, let's figure out how to
make this work for us, butliving in that place of our
magic and our energy and thatimpact is so important for,
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especially for more creativeentrepreneurs.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Yeah, I love that like making it work for us,
because, even looking at, weknow, we know that like I'm
supposed to have this creativeday, but oh, I have this tech
and then that blocks that energy.
So we resist it right, and weprocrastinate, procrastinate,
procrastinate.
And I always, I alwayschallenge people this and it
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doesn't matter if it's tech oryour workouts or sending in bed,
like whatever it is.
If it's the task that'sconstantly not getting done, why
are we putting it in that timeslot on that day of the week,
like I, I cannot, I, I could notcoach and do tech stuff like my
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, my budget, my checking in withmy client, like the back office
stuff.
I couldn't pivot that energylike that.
The tech for me does take mefrom green to yellow, so it is
like I don't want to bring thatto each other.
And for a while I wasprocrastinating on the tech so
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much that the day of a workshop,the day of a launch, I was like
, oh no, I don't have a funneltogether, I don't have the sign
up page, like I'm gonna pitch,I'm gonna share this thing and I
don't actually have a way forpeople to sign up.
So then I'm like doing it likethe workshop starts at 5 and at
4 45 I'm like, oh, I need tocheck my dms one more time.
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Make sure nobody wants to likesign up last minute.
That I'm like just hitting needto check my dms one more time.
Make sure nobody wants to likesign up last minute.
That I'm like just hittingpublish on my stuff and then
bringing that energy to that.
So being able to sit down andlook at how can I separate
things like can I have a ceo day?
The ceo day is the day thatlike I'm not gonna love it so
I'm gonna sandwich it with goodthings.
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Like that is the day that, nomatter what, you start the day
with your kundalini practice,like you do your kriya, even if
you're not super consistent withit, you're like I am going to
do this thing, ground myself,get into my energy, do the stuff
I don't like doing.
I love.
I had this conversation with aone-on-one client yesterday.
Actually, she was like I made adeal with myself that on
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Tuesdays and Thursdays I sit inmy office with the door closed
for eight hours like I'm at workother than your lunch break,
obviously but like sit down likeyou're at work for the eight
hours.
We don't always love beingthere right, and and I think
that that's the thing that welose as CEOs is we want freedom
so much that the second we haveto do something we don't like
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gut punch, we turn into spoiledlittle teenagers.
We're like I don't want to doit, so I'm just not going to do
it.
No, create a CEO day for you.
Don't schedule clients, don'tfill your day with creative
expectations.
Sit down, get the stuff done,regulate your system, do the
work and then go do somethingthat lights you back up.
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Like go for family night.
Who cares if you go bowling ona Monday night?
Your kids don't have activities.
Like go hit the arcade, go tothe movie theater, go do
something that's like feels likethat CEO freedom, right?
I don't know if my internet isglitching out.
Do I keep glitching out for you?
No, I think you're okay, okay,okay.
(26:29):
I was like oh, no, a coupletimes.
Good, kurt can edit this out,but being able to look for okay,
I don't like doing this thing.
I want freedom, okay, just likeyou said.
Like what is the goal?
What is the thing that you want?
I want to feel freedom, cool Onthe other side of doing the
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thing you don't want to do.
Go reward yourself in any waypossible, like if that means
that, oh, on Mondays I actuallytake myself out, I go do my work
at my favorite coffee shop andI get like the big coffee that I
don't always like spendingmoney on and I'm going to get
the treat.
Or I'm going to take myself outfor a CEO lunch date.
(27:10):
Like, find the ways to rewardyourself so that you can come
back up to that green andfinding just how it works for
you in an honest way, because Ithink sometimes we're like I'll
do it Friday.
If you leave it till Fridaywith stuff you don't like doing,
like you either have to suck itup and do it Friday anyways or
(27:32):
realize that that's why it'snever getting done, because
you're leaving it to the lastminute, leaving your essay to
the night before it's due.
Like, stop living in that likehigh school teenage.
I don't want to, so I'm notgoing to sort of attitude right,
we're empowered CEOs, we'refull grown adults.
So, yeah, just finding thatflow, I think is so important.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah, and I think also that's going to look
different for every singleperson, like I know.
For me I definitely do betterwhere I have like all day focus,
where I'm not jumping aroundand I realized for so many years
I would just kind of randomlyschedule calls and appointments
and stuff was all over the placeand I'm like such like a crazy
(28:18):
person, totally dysregulatednervous system, like totally out
of whack, because I was like Iliterally feel like I never get
anything done and yes, that wasa story.
But the way I was designing myday and my time I was jumping
around so much I never had achunk of focus and for me, even
(28:39):
with the tech stuff I reallyneed if I'm going to build
something, I really need a chunkof at least a couple hours, if
not like a half a day, to get mybrain into it and to design it
out and figure out what I'mgoing to do.
And yeah, maybe the actual techpart of it takes a lot shorter,
but just the mental processingbehind it and, like you're
(29:01):
saying, leaving space for youknow, all those things that do
regulate our nervous systembefore and probably after as
well, like doing our Kundalinipractice or breath work or you
know, whatever it is.
Are there any like nervoussystem regulation techniques
that you mentioned, kundalini,like stuff that you are like a
(29:22):
full send Like yes, that is likemy go to, especially for like a
tech struggle, if you're likebuilding something and you've
run into a roadblock, is theresomething that works really well
for you?
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Yes, and I'm so excited you brought this up
because I'm going to, likeshameless, plug, breadcrumb
fully just tell you guys that ifyou're dealing with tech
fatigue and you're burnt out,like we have to fix your system,
like your adrenals are shot,your cortisol levels are through
the roof from being in fight orflight, like if you're waking
(29:58):
up tired and like you can't fallasleep at night and you're just
like all over the place all daylike your system's shot.
So I know, like we have this,we have this five-day um
re-regulation, like rewired andregulated challenge coming at
the end of the month and we'regoing to be bringing um this
particular Kriya to you guysbecause this is what I
(30:19):
implemented in January to reallyground myself.
We moved very quickly two weeksbefore the holidays started
renovations on Christmas Day,while cooking turkey dinner,
like I was jazzed because I'm ahuman being, you guys like it's
not always perfect.
Because I'm a human being, youguys like it's not always
(30:41):
perfect, but doing thisparticular Kriya to help clear
out my adrenals, to help justlike flush my system, bring it
down, ground myself, like if youguys are into chakras and
energy and all of that, like theparticular Kriya that I did was
very root chakra and, asidefrom the fact that it regulates
your adrenals because of justthe parts of your body, that it
(31:02):
puts different pressure pointson your root chakra is the one
that's like your sense ofsurvival, your sense of safety.
So, when we look at our ego islike what if this person thinks
this thing?
And what if it all falls apart?
And like well, well, well, well, well, like what if I can't pay
my bills?
Like that scarcity.
We get to regulate, we get tobe like no, I'm safe, I'm okay,
(31:26):
I can do this tech and the worldisn't going to fall down around
me, saber-toothed tiger isn'tgoing to come out of my closet
and attack me because I put on abroken link, like um, so we're
going to be doing a lot of thatand that challenge.
But for the person that'slistening to this podcast and
they're, you know, waitingbecause this podcast is going to
(31:47):
drop two weeks before we startthe challenge, register, get in
there for that, come, do thiswith us, but you have to wait,
right.
Or the person that's listeningafter we've launched it and you
can get instant access to it.
Um, but maybe you're like onthe fly and you're in the car
and you're like but I have to dothis thing tonight.
Like, what can I do?
I love doing just like thealternate nose breathing,
(32:09):
because we have we have thisexpectation that doing tech,
doing the like, oh, I don't likedoing this.
I need to tap into my masculineenergy.
No same thing when we're in ourcreative, I need to tap into my
masculine energy.
No Same thing when we're in ourcreative flow, I need to tap
into my feminine energy.
No, we need both.
We need this harmony in ourbodies.
(32:30):
So I love with my clients whenwe are getting on and they're
like I'm just feeling so jackedon one side we take four minutes
, that's all it is is just fourminutes, which I know.
When you're at max capacity,you're like I don't have four
minutes in a day.
Yes, you do Right now, like,even if you're in the car,
(32:51):
obviously keep your eyes open,but starting with that breath
like through our left side andjust plugging the right nose and
having that like just deep,slow breathing.
And I always love to visualizelike that air just like coming
in and it like it flows througheach chakra right and it starts
to just get like every but it'sgetting the system turned on.
(33:13):
You know, like working in thelab.
I used to love walking in atlike six o'clock in the morning.
No one else is there.
I'm turning on all theanalyzers.
It goes from silence to likeeverything's just coming.
Working in the lab, I used tolove walking in at like six
o'clock in the morning.
No one else is there.
I'm turning on all theanalyzers.
It goes from silence to likeeverything's just coming on
board and I kind of tap intothat, like that peace that I
used to feel with it, and we dothat for two minutes and then we
(33:34):
switch sides and we go to ourmasculine energy.
We go to that like solar, likeI'm going to get things done,
like I am confident, and itcomes in and it just like
balances everything out and nowwe're operating from both
because they can happen right,we can sit down with this task.
That does require that likemasculine, I need to get this
(33:56):
done.
Energy but can we still touch itwith that nurturing energy?
That's like I have to sit downand do this newsletter, but it's
so that I nurture my audience,like touching it with that
nurturing energy.
Just bringing that softness toit all also helps for us to not
feel so like jacked up at theend of it.
(34:18):
So even just doing the, theadrenal set, I called it the
create capacity crea because Ithink like that's exactly what
it does.
It creates that capacity in ourbody.
Um, but then on the fly, like inthe moment, when you're sitting
down to do the work and you aredropping in and you don't have
time to do a full like half anhour kundalini practice, just
(34:42):
take four minutes.
Like put on some like zen music,put on a nice frequency I love
those youtube channels that justhave like endless frequency
music playing.
I'm like get me in the zone lawof attraction.
Today I'm creating my funnelpage and I want to bring that
attractive energy to it.
Like put that on right and dothe breath work just like left
(35:04):
side feminine energy, right sidemasculine energy.
And if you're someone that'slike I don't totally know about
this energy work, the scientificside behind it we think about
like our left brain and ourright brain.
We have a logical side and wehave a creative side and some of
us, I think, can get caught inlike I'm not creative, you are,
(35:25):
it's in there.
We just have to activate thatside of the brain.
We have to turn that side ofthe brain on.
So that's why I love thatbreathwork.
Just lets us do that.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, I love that so much and I think like, like what
you were saying, it's sointeresting because so many
people think of, like I'm eitherin my masculine energy or my
feminine energy and if I turnthe dial up on the masculine,
then the feminine is going down.
And I like to look at it morelike it's almost like a
soundboard with levels, like wecan actually turn them both up.
(35:57):
And if you're feeling like, ohmy gosh, I just am like not
bringing the energy right now,it's probably that both are
turned very low and we actuallyneed to turn both of them up
higher.
Also, just to kind of point outthat so many people think like,
oh, business systems, it's somasculine and with like all the
bro marketing that is out there,yes, it is such a masculine
(36:21):
energy.
That's why I hope creative andspiritual entrepreneurs like
part of what I do is to helpthem bring those energetics,
keep that person in mind thatwe're talking to, and helping
and infuse our systems with thatenergy.
The reason so many systems don'twork or don't feel like us or
(36:42):
feel inauthentic is because weare building only from the
masculine and we're forgettingto bring that feminine piece
into it, and that's why we lookat that page that we built or
the email sequence and we'relike the magic is missing from
it.
Well, we can turn what Trishajust talked about, like you're
turning both the masculine andthe feminine up at the same time
(37:04):
so that it isn't just thatsuper bro marketing feel or a
very like wishy-washy.
I built like half my funnel andI'm just not really gonna
finish it because I am like soin my creative flow and like
there's nothing wrong with thatfor some things, but like we
need to get stuff done andfinish things in our business as
(37:25):
well.
Again, that CEO mindset andownership so I love that so much
yeah, yeah, I love, as you weresaying, the soundboard.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
It's funny because I think as creative entrepreneurs,
we all have that little likejust intuitive connection.
And when we talk about likebeing soul sisters, like the
second before you said that itwas like it would be like
turning up the bass and turningdown the treble, like that
sounds like garbage, and maybethe bass on a certain song
(37:56):
should be higher than the treble, but the treble still has to
kind of come up with it right,like we have to find that
balance and like what is, youknow, when you sit down and do
the systems, maybe it does needa little more masculine energy
because you need that discipline, but you gotta bring the
feminine up with it becauseotherwise, yeah, then we're up
(38:17):
down, up down, instead of thislike flow where we're in and out
and it just feels good becauseit can feel good eventually.
Like the things that are hardright now that you're trying to
learn eventually.
Like for me, right now I have abusiness partner we co-run like
things.
I'm the one doing the stuff,I'm the one teaching her how to
(38:39):
do it and I'm like, well, whendid this happen?
Who am I?
And it's not triggering.
I'm like, oh, it's this andthat and this and that and this
is how this flows, and all ofthese things, and, like I know
where to find the answers when Idon't know what they are.
Like, can you just get curious?
Could you maybe Google how todo it?
(38:59):
Could you ask AI?
How would you set up a funnel?
Like, how would you create thissequence in a way that it makes
sense?
Like, pay attention to thethings that you sign up for.
Like, what are the things thatyou love that your mentor does?
Like, borrow the bits that youlove, leave the rest and then,
just like, you get to weave.
(39:20):
Like I love just thinking about.
Like pulling these strands outof the sky.
I've been reading so muchfantasy lately Pulling these
strands out of the sky and like,making your own magic.
Like, invest in yourself, getin these spaces, get curious.
But like, I wonder how they'redoing that.
Like, if you're listening to ustalking about pairing feminine
(39:41):
and masculine energy and you'relike I have no idea how to do
that, come do the five daychallenge.
Come, get curious about like,how do you do that?
How can I bring that to mybusiness?
Maybe that's what I've beenwanting to teach, but I don't
know how to teach it right, likethere's so much magic in
everything around us.
And how can we, how can webring it together to just
amplify our own magic?
(40:02):
I think it's just like that'sthe sweet spot in business, for
sure.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yeah, yeah, I love that so much, yeah, and I'll
just share so one of my go tonervous system regulation
techniques.
So I also practice Kundalini andlove it so much and also all
the breath work.
But one of my go to's is EFT, ortapping A lot of people have
heard of just because if I startto feel myself escalating, it's
(40:30):
something I can just starttapping and I'm going to
actually do in our five daychallenge, do a tapping with you
on the tech, limiting beliefsand all the scariness, but like
it's a way to just like start tobring that down right.
So you're like tapping throughthese points and saying these
things and it just like it's oneof those things that in the
(40:51):
moment you like you were sayinglike not everybody is 30 minutes
or not in that day you mightnot have 30 minutes in that
moment of the nervous systembeing hijacked, you might not
have 30 minutes in that momentof the nervous system being
hijacked, you might not haveenough for a huge long practice,
but it's one of those thingsyou can spend just a couple of
minutes tapping and immediatelyfeel that relief and feel
(41:12):
yourself kind of coming backdown into that place of
regulation and you're, you're sogood.
It's in fact like if I wake upin the middle of the night and
can't get back to sleep, I justsit there in bed and tap until
I'm like, okay, we're good,we're gonna go back to sleep,
like it's totally one of mygo-tos yeah, and I love that too
(41:32):
, because it is like everybodyhas a different go-to.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
But also, until you've tried them all, like you,
you don't know what works foryou.
And maybe one does work on thefly and one is you're like this
is like coming home.
So, even looking at like EFTbeing the one that you like
doing on the fly, like what hasbeen the thing that has helped
you, I know like your brandinglately has been on fire, like
(41:56):
your magic is radiating onsocial media and I'm like I
don't know what Annie did tounlock this.
But like what do what do we do?
Like for the person that's beenin this, like stuck, stagnant
energy and they're like I justI've lost it.
I lost the passion.
I don't know how to show up, Idon't know what I want to share.
Like how, how does somebodycome back to that magic?
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Yeah.
So I think number one allowingyourself to take a pause there
were so many years in mybusiness that I was like I have
to make again.
We're going back to the halftwos and shoulds.
I have to make the social mediapost and I don't know what to
say, so I'm just gonna throwsome garbage up there.
And it's not me, I'm just goingto copy and paste what somebody
(42:41):
else did, which is definitelynot me.
And I felt so unaligned, likeeverything I was putting out it
wasn't my voice, it wasn't mymagic, and I honestly, looking
back, I'm like I don't even knowthat I really knew who I was or
what my magic was, and so,first of all, it's okay to take
(43:01):
a little bit of a pause Ifyou're feeling like you don't
know what you do to help peopleor who that person is that you
help and, as you guys know, I amnot super big on the whole
niche thing, but like we alsohave to sometimes have somebody.
We can't be like I'm going tohelp everybody on the planet,
right, like we have to bespeaking to a certain general
(43:24):
type of person in general withour messaging, and so it was
just I was just throwing stuffout for so long that it wasn't
me.
I wasn't speaking to anybody, Iwas just kind of putting stuff
up to go through the motions andcheck the boxes and I was
honestly so burnt out that I waslike I don't even care anymore,
(43:48):
like I'm just doing it, and soI took a very long pause there.
I actually on social media ifyou scroll back through my stuff
it was a couple of years that Ireally was not very present on
there and I was doing a ton ofwork in the background.
I was doing the life coachcertification and then I was
(44:08):
doing like going through aneurosomatic certification that
I've talked about Trish is doingthat with me in the same class,
which is so much fun.
But just going through thesehealing modalities and learning,
looking at all the trauma I had, so much trauma, response to
(44:29):
all kinds of things.
And so taking that quiet pauseand starting to ask myself, what
do I love doing?
And I realized that a lot ofthe client work I was doing I
did not love.
I dreaded it.
It was sucking my soul andbeing okay with shutting that
off, which was terrifying.
(44:49):
To just shut my business offand giving myself.
I gave myself a good like threeor four months, just be like
what do I wanna do?
Let me explore, let me play.
Going back to having fun in mybusiness again.
I'll be honest, I don't think Ieven knew what fun was Like.
I, you know, I was like I don'teven know how to have fun, and
(45:12):
especially not in business.
Business never really was likefun.
Fun I was just driven to do itbecause I wanted to help people
so badly but it wasn't fun.
And so, adding that element inand I think the more I explored
and got in touch with my higherself and I'm still figuring all
(45:33):
of that out but just starting toallow myself to explore and
play and have the quiet when Ineeded it and not force myself
to put things out just becausethat's what I was supposed to do
in my head.
And, yeah, embrace the person.
I think deep down, I alwaysknew who I was supposed to do in
my head.
And yeah, like, embrace theperson.
Like I think, deep down, Ialways knew who I was.
(45:53):
She was always in there.
It's just I had so many layerson top of it.
I had lost her for a while, andso uncovering and finding her
and being like ooh, like thatfeels so magical and so amazing.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
And when I have like look at this branding, I'm like,
yes, like that is a leatherpants, or like yes, I love that,
just like like spherical dress,and all of the things was like
this is Annie Like, this isAnnie like yeah, you get to be
(46:33):
both you can be like spicy andand like, oh my gosh, even like
a year ago, I bought thoseleather pants.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Like well, over a year ago, I literally had never
worn them and I was like put,finally, put them on, like, yeah
, like this is me, like this isa side of me.
Yes, I am like light and airyand all of that stuff, but I am
also like there's that dark sideand I get to be both so, but
part of I mean again part of it.
(47:00):
My nervous system was sohijacked for so many years and
so allowing myself to do thosethings that were taking care of
me was such an important pieceof that and, kind of going back
to the challenge, like to sharea little bit more.
So it is going to be about yes,let's rewire some business
(47:23):
systems and also rewire ournervous system right, because
you can't.
If your nervous system is so offthe charts, hijacked, you're
not going to sit down and beable to build like the full tech
systems that you need, or evenget to that place where you've
been trashed, where you're like,okay, like this doesn't feel
(47:45):
good and it's because, like,this isn't meant for me, but
this does feel good, I just needsome help like getting to that
place of being able to do it.
If you're just flying blind andin that heightened state of
nervous system dysregulationlike you're, you're just going
to wallow, wallow in the mud andgo nowhere, just kind of be
(48:07):
stuck wallow, wallow in the mudand and go nowhere, just kind of
be stuck.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
Yeah, I love too.
So, as you were sharing thelike, take a step back.
I want to ask, like the peoplethat are listening to this right
now, take a second and pauseand be like how did my body
react to that idea of takingthree or four months off, three
or four weeks?
How does your body feel abouttaking three or four days off of
this?
Because, like, we're coming upon summer vacation and this is
why we want to do this, becausethere's so many people that
(48:36):
they're like okay, if I do thesystems, I'm gonna have free
time.
What am I gonna do with thatfree time?
Because every time I have freetime, I'm constantly thinking
about like, oh my god, I shouldbe doing something else, right,
like calming your nervous systemin this place, that it doesn't
have a trauma response to youhanging out on the couch for the
afternoon or leave your phoneat home.
(48:58):
Oh my God, how many times haveyou like maybe been like I don't
even know where my phone is,like it's laws that were like
triggered, like we need to cometo a place where it is scary and
uncomfortable, butuncomfortable to be like who am
I?
Like I could take that time,but oh that's scary work.
Like just validating that thatit's okay, that it feels that
(49:21):
way, but also it's not going tochange unless we implement these
systems.
Because even like when I loveyou're talking about, like the
leather pants, like you boughtthem but then you don't wear
them.
And when we went to the higherself party and as she rises in
Montreal, I borrowed yourclothes because I was like I
don't know what my higher selfwears, like I guess my higher
(49:41):
self is okay with borrowingclothes from friends and like
this, like dress that kind ofgets a little too short when we
start, when we start dancing.
But like I'll say, be okay withthat little bit of like
scandalous energy tonight, likeexploring and playing.
You don't know until you try.
And I guess, like at the end ofthe day, if we think about that
like five-day challenge, canyou come in with that?
(50:04):
Like I don't know until I try,nothing else has worked.
I've paid for all the things,I've tried all of the things.
Nothing's clicking like I justdon't know.
Come give it a try.
Tell my kids all the time youhave to at least have two bites
where you tell me you don't likesomething right and like, and
then after that, if you trulydon't like it, like I'm not
(50:25):
gonna make you eat it again.
And so so, coming in and beinglike, can I come in and explore
this?
Can I come get curious whatit's like to sit down and do
tech and not jack my system?
Can I feel what it's like whenI have the systems in place and
I can actually take a downtime?
Can I, can I create this likesafety in my body so that when I
(50:48):
say I am going to close thedoors for two weeks because
that's what I did in January, wemoved and like all those things
, I was like I need to reset mysystem and I had to accept that
in the month of the year that weare like as coaches, we're like
this should be my highestincome month.
Last year it was for me it wasmy first $10,000 month.
I cried in sport check when Iwas like I just had this pay in
(51:11):
full come through, like, oh mygod.
It was really hard for me todetach from that like pressure
on myself in January to be likethis is supposed to be your
biggest month.
You want to have thissix-figure year.
You can't start off being likeI'm actually not promoting
anything.
I'm actually not launchinganything.
I don't want new one-on beinglike I'm actually not promoting
anything, I'm actually notlaunching anything.
I don't want new one-on-oneclients.
I'm having a bit of an identitycrisis and I need to keep my
(51:35):
business safe.
So I'm going to go work on mysense of safety and it was rocky
.
Like I had to have those supportsystems and you and our
sisterhood and our certificationand our mentor.
Like you have to have people inyour corner to do that and feel
good about it.
It's the safety net when youwalk out on the tight wire.
Like I guess, like the.
(51:56):
The last thing that I kind ofwant to just touch on for people
is like you don't have to do italone.
There's that stigma that's likeit's lonely at the top.
No, it's lonely at the top whenyour system's fried and you're
burnt out.
But like at the top we're goingon a yacht in October.
Like that's not lonely andeverybody there is wildly
(52:19):
successful.
Like get in rooms with peoplethat can support you in
different ways and and justexplore until you do find those
pieces of you, because a lot ofus have been so lost in
motherhood and in our businessand in the hustle that we don't
know who we are.
So let's, let's take that fivedays in april and find who you
(52:42):
are and build that safety andand do some business work,
because you can do both at thesame time.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
So if you've been listening andyou're like, yes, I am ready to
join, I want to explore this,or I am a full send, yes, I am
all in.
The challenge is called rewiredand regulated and we're going
to drop the link in the shownotes so that you can get
registered.
It's totally free.
(53:10):
So no cost.
No cost to just our gift to you.
So I'm super excited tocollaborate with you on this.
Trish.
We've done I feel like we'vedone so many little tiny things
together and coach together andrun workshops together, but
never publicly really launchedanything together, and I'm so
(53:32):
excited to teach this with you.
Speaker 3 (53:34):
Yeah, full send collaboration.
It's going to be so fun.
And I think the other thing is,like the free that's we want to
take out that, like our nervoussystem has a reaction when
we're jacked and we have todecide if we want to invest like
sometimes, if we are totallyed,and we have to decide if we
want to invest, like sometimes,if we are totally hijacked.
Choosing to make an investmentis like that's a triggering
thing.
So we wanted to remove that.
(53:55):
The purpose of this is to helpregulate you.
That's why it's free, becausefull send you can just be like
yes, sign me up right now.
Like, while you're listening tothis, you can be going through
the form Right.
Like, while you're listening tothis, you can be going through
the form right.
Speaker 2 (54:13):
So, yeah, just invitation to come explore and
play and build that sense ofsafety.
Yes, 100%.
It's going to be so good.
I'm so excited for all thebeautiful people we're going to
have in there with us.
Well, before we wrap up, isthere anything else?
I feel like we've had such anamazing conversation.
Is there anything else that youhave to share and wrap up?
Speaker 3 (54:38):
I don't know.
I feel like, I feel complete.
I think that's somethingsometimes, that we're like, we
feel like we have to saysomething, but really it's okay
to just say I feel good, like wefeel like we have to say
something, but really it's okayto just say I feel good.
Speaker 2 (54:54):
Yeah, well, me too.
So I just wanted to do a littlecheck-in with you, but, yeah, I
am also feeling like this wassuch a beautiful complete
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hello everybody, welcome to today's episode of
Effortlessly Productive.
I am joined today by a veryspecial guest, my dear, dear
friend, tricia.
She is literally like mybusiness ride or die, plus just
like one of my very best friends.
(00:41):
We actually live all the wayacross the country from each
other and actually in differentcountries, but we have met up in
person and also worked togetheronline for so many years now I
can't even remember how many sowe were introduced because she
went through the same life coachcertification that I did and we
(01:06):
became master coaches as well.
So she is a certified masterlife performance and leadership
coach, just like me, and we havedone so much work together over
the years.
So I am so excited to have youhere, trisha, on this episode.
We have some really specialthings that we're going to be
talking about today, so I amgoing to let Trisha introduce
(01:30):
herself first of all and justtell us what she does,
everything about her, and thenwe're going to dive into
Trisha's story with dealing withtechnology and in terms of,
like, the business side of allof that set up, and then we're
just going to have an amazingconversation for you here today.
So, trisha, take it away, tellus a little bit about who you
(01:54):
are, what you do and just, yeah,all the things that make you so
amazing.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Yeah, it's been like three years and it's.
That's insane to me because,it's interesting how many times
we have these relationshipswhere it's like, where were you
before?
Like it doesn't feel like I'velived a life without you and
it's just, yeah, I just I lovethis and this growth and the
(02:20):
conversation we get to havetoday Because you're like,
you're the base of this wholeconversation, like my whole
experience with tech is revolvedaround Annie, but I'm Trish
with a Y.
I used to feel like my parentshated me and spelling my name
different and just recently I'veowned that.
They actually knew that I wasgoing to be unique and that's
(02:43):
been a really fun shift, soowning that I am the capacity
queen.
I work with people on elevatingtheir capacity, redefining what
it is going from max capacitybeing this place of like
pressure I can't take onanything else, including healing
myself, like I just havenothing left in me to operating
(03:07):
from this place where we'reoperating at our highest
capacity and our highestcapacity is constantly ebbing
and flowing and it's just.
It's about finding an energeticflow in the chaos, in the times
when things are going good, sowe can stop this like high, low,
high, low and coming more tothis like baseline, which I
(03:28):
think, especially asentrepreneurs, that's essential
to not be like I have all of theideas, I feel really good, and
then nobody's signing up,nobody's buying, nobody's doing
these things.
Like how can we be like I havethis idea and it's beautiful and
like maybe things aren't goingthe way that they are, but how
can I fix this and how can Ibring myself up?
(03:49):
And it's just like coming intoriding the waves of business and
yourself and feeling good inyour body, doing all of it and,
of course, the subconscious sideof things, like breaking down
those patterns and identifyingwhat are the limiting beliefs we
have.
I'm not good at tech.
That was me like through andthrough when we first met in
(04:12):
2022.
And we're doing, we're doingthese automations calls, like
you were teaching us how tocreate email sequences, like
things.
Now that I'm like this was themost basic stuff, like that was
foundational.
You weren't teaching us complexlike funnels and all of these
things.
Like it was.
(04:32):
It was so foundational.
But for me, coming from ahospital background where we
just were given this like onecomputer system that we had to
learn and then that was it andthen doing the rest of the job,
coming into the entrepreneurworld where it's like I wear all
of the hats and I know so manypeople can relate to that in
(04:53):
startup.
You don't have the money for aVA, you don't have the money for
somebody else to do yourwebsite.
Like, you are the one figuringit all out and we're getting on
these calls and you're trying to, you're trying to teach us
these things and I remember somany times just shutting my
video off and lying on the floorcrying I mean like I have to
(05:15):
learn this, but like, oh my God,it's so over my head and it was
just I don't.
That was.
That was probably the most likepivotal moment for me in my
business stepping from this likeyou know that, like network
marketing, like I'm showing upbut all of the things are
provided for me into this worldwhere I had to decide like no,
(05:37):
I'm going to be a CEO and itdoesn't matter that I don't like
it, that it doesn't feel good,like I have to figure this out,
but it felt like garbage in mybody for so long and it was just
yeah, you were, you did such agood job explaining everything,
but there was so much of me thatwas blocking it and I'm really
(06:00):
excited to have the conversationaround that whole side of
things today, um, how weovercame that together.
Um, but yeah, also just like howdifferent it can be, even for
those in that like new startup,where they're like I don't know
what an email sequence is, whatis, what is a workflow, what is
(06:20):
a funnel, like all of thesethings that are so brand new
outside of social media and evensocial media learning, like
every time it evolves into theupdates and we're like why, what
are reels?
Like, oh my God, but yeah, itdefinitely excited for today?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, me too.
Yeah, and it's funny you bringthat up because you know,
obviously everybody listening tothis podcast who has heard any
of my episodes knows that I amlike a tech expert and I have
been up on tech since, like wehad a computer in our house when
I was like nine years old,which was completely unheard of
at the time.
This was still in the 1980s.
(06:58):
I'm dating myself a little bitso like it's so familiar to me,
but there will sometimes beupdates where people are like
where, where is this?
And I so like it's so familiarto me.
But there will sometimes beupdates where people are like
where, where is this?
And I'm like I don't know, Ican't find it.
So like, no matter.
I think that's such an importantpoint like, no matter how much
of an expert you are and howmuch experience you have, there
are going to be times where youdive into something and it's
(07:20):
like all those feelings rushback of, like I don't know where
this is, I can't find it.
It's like all those feelingsrush back of, like I don't know
where this is, I can't find it,it's not working the way it's
supposed to.
Like, even right before we hopon to record this.
I was helping a client and I'mlike I don't know why this
import isn't processing, butlike it's just stuck and we'll
figure it out.
Like it's that belief of likewe're going to figure it out,
(07:43):
we're going to get it fixed.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
But like like I'm, we're gonna figure it out, we're
gonna get it fixed, but like,also, I don't know why it's not
working the way that it normallydoes right now.
So, yeah, I don't know why issuch a humbling?
Like, if you are the expert inyour business, you're the expert
in coaching.
You're like, put me on a call.
That was my biggest thing.
I was like I don't want to doany of this, I just want to
coach, and that was so hard.
I was like I don't know why Ican't figure this out.
(08:11):
I don't know why this linkisn't working.
I don't know why people aren'tgetting reminders, like I said,
getting people that's like thecall starts in 24 hours and I'm
like, no, it starts in one hour,all those things like it's yeah
, I don't know why that's.
That's such a.
That's another good limitingbelief to unpack for sure.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Right, yeah, and so I know, like you had just said
something about like you.
You definitely had a like,almost like an identity shift.
It sounds like where you wentfrom like I'm this brand new
business person, or like I'mthis brand new business person,
or like I have my foundation andnetwork marketing, where
everything's handed to me, tothen embracing like no, I am the
(08:53):
CEO and that means I need totake full ownership of
everything, even if there arethings in there that feel very
sticky and very uncomfortable,feel very sticky and very
uncomfortable, but I still amgoing to need to figure it out
and do it anyway, whether it'sme or whether it's like
eventually hiring somebody else,Like what was some of the other
(09:16):
shifts that happened for you,like along the way to help that
identity shift.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Oh, that's a good question, because I feel like
sometimes it's so hard to putourselves back like like three
years.
Thinking about going back there.
I'm like I just remember cryingon the floor and telling myself
to like put on my CEO hat, pullup my big girl pants and all
these things.
But but thinking about whatshifted, I think some of it was
(09:46):
I had to get okay with justexploring it.
Like I had to get okay with goto the software and just click
around, go through the things,like it's going to take time.
I think that that was thebiggest thing for me was it's
going to take time.
This is brand new, right?
Like I didn't go to school tolearn how to run a business or
(10:07):
do management.
Like I'm teaching myself andeven though I have mentorship I
have people that are showing me,it is still me finding my own
flow and I think that was likeowning that piece that even if
somebody's teaching me, I stillhave to find what works for me.
I think that that's somethingthat as CEOs, as entrepreneurs,
(10:32):
we always feel like we have todo it a certain way.
We have to do it the way thisperson is teaching things and
we're like I'm being taught howto do ads.
I have to do ads.
Taking that step back and alsoasking but is this what's most
important, or am I gettingdistracted with, like the next
shiny thing, when really I needto be doing this like basic
stuff first?
(10:56):
I think that One of the biggestshifts that I experienced was
coming to that place where I hadto just own what do I want?
What do I want for my clients?
Where am I at?
Like what feels good, evennewsletters.
I've tried to do a newsletterseries so many times and I do
(11:16):
good for like four weeks andthen I'm like I just don't want
to do it.
So not pouring that time intothat, not because just don't
want to do it.
So not pouring that time intothat, not because I don't want
to learn it, but because,recognizing that even after I
learned it, even after Iunderstood it, it didn't feel
good, I'm like I just don't wantto be forced to do this all the
time.
And that's like that line whereI could decide am I avoiding
(11:40):
this because it's hard to learn,or am I avoiding this because
it doesn't feel aligned?
And that was, that was probablythe biggest like big bang.
Now things are moving forward.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, that makes so much sense Because you know it.
It's such a tough distinctionand such kind of a blurry line
there of you know, I think,especially as more like
spiritual and creativeentrepreneurs, like we're coming
from, like that creative placeand a very intuitive place, and
we sometimes get these warningsigns in our body where it's
(12:17):
like our body is saying no, butlike why is it saying no, when
are we feeling it and what isthe reason behind that?
And being able to dive in andexplore those kind of maybe
yucky feelings or difficult orchallenging situations of what
it is that's holding us back andthen being able to design our
(12:39):
business how we want to do it,not just because somebody told
us to yeah, yeah, I remember myego being so hung up on how
embarrassing it was if thingsdidn't work out right like I
used to the very first programthat I ran.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Honestly, recording on zoom was too much for me at
the time and and I was like, ohmy God, I forgot to hit record.
And then I would feel soembarrassed when I'm in the
middle of a workshop and I haveto tell people like, oh no.
And then I remember I had thisclient message me and she was
like I pick up on that energy.
And she was like I know thatyou're new to this, but also
(13:19):
like.
And she was like I know thatyou're new to this, but also
like nobody else knows, nobodyelse is aware of it, until you
start freaking out, until youstart panicking.
And it's funny because my egowas so concerned about like
you're going to get this wrongand people are going to know and
all of these things, and likethat's why I resisted a lot of
it.
But because of that like thatwas driving that energy that was
(13:39):
then leaving me like, just like, just constantly waiting for
like the wind to blow the houseof cards down, and then it would
just like shift a little and Iwas the one that was causing it
to just collapse.
And, yeah, it's just.
It's that ego like checking inon Okay, well, what is the
problem if you put up a link andit doesn't work?
(14:01):
Somebody might not register,somebody might message you.
I updated my website six monthsago and I had it on my Facebook
profile and somebody messaged me, I think two days ago, and
she's like by the way, the linkat the top of your Facebook is a
404 error and I was like, oh mygod, I didn't change it and I
(14:21):
updated my website and it'd beso easy to go back and spiral
over.
Like how many people like wentto go buy from me and then
weren't able to buy from me?
And like that like scarcitymindset, when it's really like
she's probably the first personthat's clicked on it in six
months and she messaged meimmediately and then it's just
such an easy fix.
(14:42):
But our ego is like, oh my god,like what if I mess up?
What are people gonna think?
What am I gonna miss out on?
Like that, like, oh, justjazzed in your body, I love?
I know we talked about likebeing you're nervous system
being hijacked.
That's what our ego does inthese, in these times where
we're learning something new andand we have to learn how to
overcome that.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, and I definitely experienced that too.
I think, especially as somebodywith an identity of, like I'm
really good at tech and I'm atech expert especially when
something is broken or doesn'twork right or people are having
trouble with it, like my egogoes completely off the rails.
Like my ego goes completely offthe rails.
And then I have to remember I'mlike how many like seven, eight
figure earners have I had?
Like I'm on their email listand they've sent me an email
(15:29):
where a link doesn't work andthey have to send an oopsie.
Or like they forgot to eventype the email in.
I had that happen recently.
I'm like, oh, thank you,because it's not like.
That's proof that like we canstill have that success that we
want to have and reach for thosehigher places.
And not everything is going togo perfectly all the time.
(15:50):
My husband and I always talkabout it's not like with his
business, it's not the mistakethat's happened, it's how you
handle that mistake afterwards.
So the ego check of like hey,like, hey, like.
This is not a freak out moment.
This is not a like go off therails.
This is not a like I need toquit my business because I just
suck like no and out like anapology email and be like, oh my
(16:15):
gosh, like I made a mistake andhere's the correct link or
whatever.
But but it, yeah, it's.
It's wild how that goes.
Our ego just goes totallyhaywire.
And you're right, like we, youdo have that huge nervous system
reaction to that as well.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah, I love even I want to kind of touch on this
for a second too, because thisis another place that ego comes
in and I've been exploring thisnot just with myself but with my
clients is when you get thatemail from the seven, eight
figure earner, that's messed up.
Are you the person that's likeannoyed because that's your ego
(16:54):
again being like see how stupidthis is, see how annoying this
is.
And then when you go sit down,it's got this proof that like
somebody else is going toreceive this and feel the.
When you go sit down, it's gotthis proof that like somebody
else is going to receive thisand feel the way that you felt.
But it like it's just your egoshowing up in another area
trying to keep you safe and andit's such a powerful shift to
come into your intuition, intoyour feminine energy, that has
(17:17):
this like level of compassionfor the person on the other side
and you're like, oh, my god,I've done this so many times too
.
I feel for you, like I knowwhat you're experiencing right
now and also it makes me feel alittle bit better.
Not that I'm happy you wentthrough this and I hope that
your nervous system is handlingit well, but like, oh,
(17:38):
validation, that I'm not theonly one.
So even just like checking,it's a constant check with your
system on.
Like, oh, validation that I'mnot the only one.
So even just like checking,it's a constant check with your
system on.
Like, do I feel like I'm likevibrating and I'm like, oh, my
God, like I'm freaking out, oris it like no, it's not a big
deal.
Like can I learn a lesson here?
And I know we were talkingabout the creative side of
(18:00):
things and how much, if we'restuck in that like masculine
energy, if I have to prove thatI can do this, I need it to be
perfect.
Like I can't mess up.
That's why so many like soulthat entrepreneurs resist the
systems.
Right, and it's like I know foryou, you talk about like the
difference between delegatingand automating, like being able
(18:23):
to recognize is this a zone of apotential zone of genius, that
if I just regulate my nervoussystem, I could learn it.
And then, ooh, maybe I'mactually really good at this,
versus the person that's like no, my nervous system is regulated
and, like me with newsletters,I just hate doing it.
I don't feel good in it, Ican't find my creative flow.
Like, then we come intodelegating right and that's like
(18:45):
I know you do tons of done foryou stuff and like how much
permission does that give thatperson to go, like, create their
magic in all of these otherareas?
I'd love to hear, like, what'sthat transformation you see with
the people that say, like hardline in the sand, this isn't for
me.
It's not that I can't do it, Ijust straight up don't want to
(19:06):
do it yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
So I think it's that um, like what you just brought
up of number one, knowing andtrusting yourself, like getting
very clear and like also veryregulated, and it's not like I
talk a lot on here about withour nervous system.
It's not that we're never goingto be in fight or flight, it's
not that we're never going to gointo freeze mode, but do we
(19:29):
have the ability to come backout of that into that zone of
safety?
So once you have come back intothat zone of safety if it is a
full body hell, no, like I amnot going there.
I think, examining what was Itrying to do with that system,
(19:49):
what was the purpose of that,that it was going to serve in my
business, and is there anotherway to accomplish that?
Or again, is it do I, does itstill need to get done and I can
just find somebody else to doit for me?
And I think it's it's reallycomes back to that CEO mindset
of taking ownership foreverything, like a good CEO is
(20:14):
not operating from a completelywhacked out nervous system.
Number one like they know whenthey're not regulated and they
know to take a pause and theyknow that their best work is not
going to come through.
But I think it's totally okayto own the fact that my zone of
genius is coaching people.
My zone of genius is healingpeople.
(20:36):
It's not building this techstuff, and if that is you, that
is okay.
I run into so many entrepreneursthat are full on experiencing
tech fatigue because they havebeen trying to do it all
themselves.
Their nervous system is so outof whack because they're trying
to do all of this.
(20:56):
They're using systems that areall over the place that are
taking huge amounts of timeevery single week, and the more
time that takes, the more it'spulling them away from their
magic, and that's part of whythey feel so out of whack,
because they are literallyspending all their time doing
something that sucks theirenergy instead of the thing
(21:19):
that's their magic and theirimpact that they want to share
with the world.
So, recognizing like I am fullon in tech fatigue right now I'm
using systems that don't work.
I'm using systems I don'tunderstand, and being able to
figure out how to number one,just regulate your nervous
system down to a place where youcan make really smart decisions
(21:43):
about this does have to getdone.
This doesn't have to get done.
If it does have to get done.
How do we accomplish thatwithout it being me?
Can I automate it?
Can I have somebody else do itfor me?
Or is there something else Ican do instead that's going to
accomplish that same goal?
That does feel aligned, likeyou said, with, like the email
(22:05):
newsletters.
Like, if that is not feelingaligned for you and you're
showing up on social mediasharing this, all this content
all the time, like, is socialmedia enough for your business?
And if it is lean into that, ifit's not enough and you do want
to be doing email marketing,can you find somebody that can
take all of that social mediacontent and turn it into email
(22:28):
newsletters and write them andsend them out for you?
How can we do this?
Can we use AI to help us withpart of that process?
There's so many different waysto solve it, but until we come
into that place of regulationand then are able to reflect on
what our goal is, why we feellike we have to do this so badly
(22:51):
, that, like, have to word, orneed to, or should like all that
things right.
So like, why is that coming up?
And if it does serve a purpose,like, let's figure out how to
make this work for us, butliving in that place of our
magic and our energy and thatimpact is so important for,
(23:13):
especially for more creativeentrepreneurs.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Yeah, I love that like making it work for us,
because, even looking at, weknow, we know that like I'm
supposed to have this creativeday, but oh, I have this tech
and then that blocks that energy.
So we resist it right, and weprocrastinate, procrastinate,
procrastinate.
And I always, I alwayschallenge people this and it
(23:38):
doesn't matter if it's tech oryour workouts or sending in bed,
like whatever it is.
If it's the task that'sconstantly not getting done, why
are we putting it in that timeslot on that day of the week,
like I, I cannot, I, I could notcoach and do tech stuff like my
(23:59):
, my budget, my checking in withmy client, like the back office
stuff.
I couldn't pivot that energylike that.
The tech for me does take mefrom green to yellow, so it is
like I don't want to bring thatto each other.
And for a while I wasprocrastinating on the tech so
(24:19):
much that the day of a workshop,the day of a launch, I was like
, oh no, I don't have a funneltogether, I don't have the sign
up page, like I'm gonna pitch,I'm gonna share this thing and I
don't actually have a way forpeople to sign up.
So then I'm like doing it likethe workshop starts at 5 and at
4 45 I'm like, oh, I need tocheck my dms one more time.
(24:39):
Make sure nobody wants to likesign up last minute.
That I'm like just hitting needto check my dms one more time.
Make sure nobody wants to likesign up last minute.
That I'm like just hittingpublish on my stuff and then
bringing that energy to that.
So being able to sit down andlook at how can I separate
things like can I have a ceo day?
The ceo day is the day thatlike I'm not gonna love it so
I'm gonna sandwich it with goodthings.
(25:00):
Like that is the day that, nomatter what, you start the day
with your kundalini practice,like you do your kriya, even if
you're not super consistent withit, you're like I am going to
do this thing, ground myself,get into my energy, do the stuff
I don't like doing.
I love.
I had this conversation with aone-on-one client yesterday.
Actually, she was like I made adeal with myself that on
(25:22):
Tuesdays and Thursdays I sit inmy office with the door closed
for eight hours like I'm at workother than your lunch break,
obviously but like sit down likeyou're at work for the eight
hours.
We don't always love beingthere right, and and I think
that that's the thing that welose as CEOs is we want freedom
so much that the second we haveto do something we don't like
(25:45):
gut punch, we turn into spoiledlittle teenagers.
We're like I don't want to doit, so I'm just not going to do
it.
No, create a CEO day for you.
Don't schedule clients, don'tfill your day with creative
expectations.
Sit down, get the stuff done,regulate your system, do the
work and then go do somethingthat lights you back up.
(26:07):
Like go for family night.
Who cares if you go bowling ona Monday night?
Your kids don't have activities.
Like go hit the arcade, go tothe movie theater, go do
something that's like feels likethat CEO freedom, right?
I don't know if my internet isglitching out.
Do I keep glitching out for you?
No, I think you're okay, okay,okay.
(26:29):
I was like oh, no, a coupletimes.
Good, kurt can edit this out,but being able to look for okay,
I don't like doing this thing.
I want freedom, okay, just likeyou said.
Like what is the goal?
What is the thing that you want?
I want to feel freedom, cool Onthe other side of doing the
(26:49):
thing you don't want to do.
Go reward yourself in any waypossible, like if that means
that, oh, on Mondays I actuallytake myself out, I go do my work
at my favorite coffee shop andI get like the big coffee that I
don't always like spendingmoney on and I'm going to get
the treat.
Or I'm going to take myself outfor a CEO lunch date.
(27:10):
Like, find the ways to rewardyourself so that you can come
back up to that green andfinding just how it works for
you in an honest way, because Ithink sometimes we're like I'll
do it Friday.
If you leave it till Fridaywith stuff you don't like doing,
like you either have to suck itup and do it Friday anyways or
(27:32):
realize that that's why it'snever getting done, because
you're leaving it to the lastminute, leaving your essay to
the night before it's due.
Like, stop living in that likehigh school teenage.
I don't want to, so I'm notgoing to sort of attitude right,
we're empowered CEOs, we'refull grown adults.
So, yeah, just finding thatflow, I think is so important.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah, and I think also that's going to look
different for every singleperson, like I know.
For me I definitely do betterwhere I have like all day focus,
where I'm not jumping aroundand I realized for so many years
I would just kind of randomlyschedule calls and appointments
and stuff was all over the placeand I'm like such like a crazy
(28:18):
person, totally dysregulatednervous system, like totally out
of whack, because I was like Iliterally feel like I never get
anything done and yes, that wasa story.
But the way I was designing myday and my time I was jumping
around so much I never had achunk of focus and for me, even
(28:39):
with the tech stuff I reallyneed if I'm going to build
something, I really need a chunkof at least a couple hours, if
not like a half a day, to get mybrain into it and to design it
out and figure out what I'mgoing to do.
And yeah, maybe the actual techpart of it takes a lot shorter,
but just the mental processingbehind it and, like you're
(29:01):
saying, leaving space for youknow, all those things that do
regulate our nervous systembefore and probably after as
well, like doing our Kundalinipractice or breath work or you
know, whatever it is.
Are there any like nervoussystem regulation techniques
that you mentioned, kundalini,like stuff that you are like a
(29:22):
full send Like yes, that is likemy go to, especially for like a
tech struggle, if you're likebuilding something and you've
run into a roadblock, is theresomething that works really well
for you?
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Yes, and I'm so excited you brought this up
because I'm going to, likeshameless, plug, breadcrumb
fully just tell you guys that ifyou're dealing with tech
fatigue and you're burnt out,like we have to fix your system,
like your adrenals are shot,your cortisol levels are through
the roof from being in fight orflight, like if you're waking
(29:58):
up tired and like you can't fallasleep at night and you're just
like all over the place all daylike your system's shot.
So I know, like we have this,we have this five-day um
re-regulation, like rewired andregulated challenge coming at
the end of the month and we'regoing to be bringing um this
particular Kriya to you guysbecause this is what I
(30:19):
implemented in January to reallyground myself.
We moved very quickly two weeksbefore the holidays started
renovations on Christmas Day,while cooking turkey dinner,
like I was jazzed because I'm ahuman being, you guys like it's
not always perfect.
Because I'm a human being, youguys like it's not always
(30:41):
perfect, but doing thisparticular Kriya to help clear
out my adrenals, to help justlike flush my system, bring it
down, ground myself, like if youguys are into chakras and
energy and all of that, like theparticular Kriya that I did was
very root chakra and, asidefrom the fact that it regulates
your adrenals because of justthe parts of your body, that it
(31:02):
puts different pressure pointson your root chakra is the one
that's like your sense ofsurvival, your sense of safety.
So, when we look at our ego islike what if this person thinks
this thing?
And what if it all falls apart?
And like well, well, well, well, well, like what if I can't pay
my bills?
Like that scarcity.
We get to regulate, we get tobe like no, I'm safe, I'm okay,
(31:26):
I can do this tech and the worldisn't going to fall down around
me, saber-toothed tiger isn'tgoing to come out of my closet
and attack me because I put on abroken link, like um, so we're
going to be doing a lot of thatand that challenge.
But for the person that'slistening to this podcast and
they're, you know, waitingbecause this podcast is going to
(31:47):
drop two weeks before we startthe challenge, register, get in
there for that, come, do thiswith us, but you have to wait,
right.
Or the person that's listeningafter we've launched it and you
can get instant access to it.
Um, but maybe you're like onthe fly and you're in the car
and you're like but I have to dothis thing tonight.
Like, what can I do?
I love doing just like thealternate nose breathing,
(32:09):
because we have we have thisexpectation that doing tech,
doing the like, oh, I don't likedoing this.
I need to tap into my masculineenergy.
No same thing when we're in ourcreative, I need to tap into my
masculine energy.
No Same thing when we're in ourcreative flow, I need to tap
into my feminine energy.
No, we need both.
We need this harmony in ourbodies.
(32:30):
So I love with my clients whenwe are getting on and they're
like I'm just feeling so jackedon one side we take four minutes
, that's all it is is just fourminutes, which I know.
When you're at max capacity,you're like I don't have four
minutes in a day.
Yes, you do Right now, like,even if you're in the car,
(32:51):
obviously keep your eyes open,but starting with that breath
like through our left side andjust plugging the right nose and
having that like just deep,slow breathing.
And I always love to visualizelike that air just like coming
in and it like it flows througheach chakra right and it starts
to just get like every but it'sgetting the system turned on.
(33:13):
You know, like working in thelab.
I used to love walking in atlike six o'clock in the morning.
No one else is there.
I'm turning on all theanalyzers.
It goes from silence to likeeverything's just coming.
Working in the lab, I used tolove walking in at like six
o'clock in the morning.
No one else is there.
I'm turning on all theanalyzers.
It goes from silence to likeeverything's just coming on
board and I kind of tap intothat, like that peace that I
used to feel with it, and we dothat for two minutes and then we
(33:34):
switch sides and we go to ourmasculine energy.
We go to that like solar, likeI'm going to get things done,
like I am confident, and itcomes in and it just like
balances everything out and nowwe're operating from both
because they can happen right,we can sit down with this task.
That does require that likemasculine, I need to get this
(33:56):
done.
Energy but can we still touch itwith that nurturing energy?
That's like I have to sit downand do this newsletter, but it's
so that I nurture my audience,like touching it with that
nurturing energy.
Just bringing that softness toit all also helps for us to not
feel so like jacked up at theend of it.
(34:18):
So even just doing the, theadrenal set, I called it the
create capacity crea because Ithink like that's exactly what
it does.
It creates that capacity in ourbody.
Um, but then on the fly, like inthe moment, when you're sitting
down to do the work and you aredropping in and you don't have
time to do a full like half anhour kundalini practice, just
(34:42):
take four minutes.
Like put on some like zen music,put on a nice frequency I love
those youtube channels that justhave like endless frequency
music playing.
I'm like get me in the zone lawof attraction.
Today I'm creating my funnelpage and I want to bring that
attractive energy to it.
Like put that on right and dothe breath work just like left
(35:04):
side feminine energy, right sidemasculine energy.
And if you're someone that'slike I don't totally know about
this energy work, the scientificside behind it we think about
like our left brain and ourright brain.
We have a logical side and wehave a creative side and some of
us, I think, can get caught inlike I'm not creative, you are,
(35:25):
it's in there.
We just have to activate thatside of the brain.
We have to turn that side ofthe brain on.
So that's why I love thatbreathwork.
Just lets us do that.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, I love that so much and I think like, like what
you were saying, it's sointeresting because so many
people think of, like I'm eitherin my masculine energy or my
feminine energy and if I turnthe dial up on the masculine,
then the feminine is going down.
And I like to look at it morelike it's almost like a
soundboard with levels, like wecan actually turn them both up.
(35:57):
And if you're feeling like, ohmy gosh, I just am like not
bringing the energy right now,it's probably that both are
turned very low and we actuallyneed to turn both of them up
higher.
Also, just to kind of point outthat so many people think like,
oh, business systems, it's somasculine and with like all the
bro marketing that is out there,yes, it is such a masculine
(36:21):
energy.
That's why I hope creative andspiritual entrepreneurs like
part of what I do is to helpthem bring those energetics,
keep that person in mind thatwe're talking to, and helping
and infuse our systems with thatenergy.
The reason so many systems don'twork or don't feel like us or
(36:42):
feel inauthentic is because weare building only from the
masculine and we're forgettingto bring that feminine piece
into it, and that's why we lookat that page that we built or
the email sequence and we'relike the magic is missing from
it.
Well, we can turn what Trishajust talked about, like you're
turning both the masculine andthe feminine up at the same time
(37:04):
so that it isn't just thatsuper bro marketing feel or a
very like wishy-washy.
I built like half my funnel andI'm just not really gonna
finish it because I am like soin my creative flow and like
there's nothing wrong with thatfor some things, but like we
need to get stuff done andfinish things in our business as
(37:25):
well.
Again, that CEO mindset andownership so I love that so much
yeah, yeah, I love, as you weresaying, the soundboard.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
It's funny because I think as creative entrepreneurs,
we all have that little likejust intuitive connection.
And when we talk about likebeing soul sisters, like the
second before you said that itwas like it would be like
turning up the bass and turningdown the treble, like that
sounds like garbage, and maybethe bass on a certain song
(37:56):
should be higher than the treble, but the treble still has to
kind of come up with it right,like we have to find that
balance and like what is, youknow, when you sit down and do
the systems, maybe it does needa little more masculine energy
because you need that discipline, but you gotta bring the
feminine up with it becauseotherwise, yeah, then we're up
(38:17):
down, up down, instead of thislike flow where we're in and out
and it just feels good becauseit can feel good eventually.
Like the things that are hardright now that you're trying to
learn eventually.
Like for me, right now I have abusiness partner we co-run like
things.
I'm the one doing the stuff,I'm the one teaching her how to
(38:39):
do it and I'm like, well, whendid this happen?
Who am I?
And it's not triggering.
I'm like, oh, it's this andthat and this and that and this
is how this flows, and all ofthese things, and, like I know
where to find the answers when Idon't know what they are.
Like, can you just get curious?
Could you maybe Google how todo it?
(38:59):
Could you ask AI?
How would you set up a funnel?
Like, how would you create thissequence in a way that it makes
sense?
Like, pay attention to thethings that you sign up for.
Like, what are the things thatyou love that your mentor does?
Like, borrow the bits that youlove, leave the rest and then,
just like, you get to weave.
(39:20):
Like I love just thinking about.
Like pulling these strands outof the sky.
I've been reading so muchfantasy lately Pulling these
strands out of the sky and like,making your own magic.
Like, invest in yourself, getin these spaces, get curious.
But like, I wonder how they'redoing that.
Like, if you're listening to ustalking about pairing feminine
(39:41):
and masculine energy and you'relike I have no idea how to do
that, come do the five daychallenge.
Come, get curious about like,how do you do that?
How can I bring that to mybusiness?
Maybe that's what I've beenwanting to teach, but I don't
know how to teach it right, likethere's so much magic in
everything around us.
And how can we, how can webring it together to just
amplify our own magic?
(40:02):
I think it's just like that'sthe sweet spot in business, for
sure.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yeah, yeah, I love that so much, yeah, and I'll
just share so one of my go tonervous system regulation
techniques.
So I also practice Kundalini andlove it so much and also all
the breath work.
But one of my go to's is EFT, ortapping A lot of people have
heard of just because if I startto feel myself escalating, it's
(40:30):
something I can just starttapping and I'm going to
actually do in our five daychallenge, do a tapping with you
on the tech, limiting beliefsand all the scariness, but like
it's a way to just like start tobring that down right.
So you're like tapping throughthese points and saying these
things and it just like it's oneof those things that in the
(40:51):
moment you like you were sayinglike not everybody is 30 minutes
or not in that day you mightnot have 30 minutes in that
moment of the nervous systembeing hijacked, you might not
have 30 minutes in that momentof the nervous system being
hijacked, you might not haveenough for a huge long practice,
but it's one of those thingsyou can spend just a couple of
minutes tapping and immediatelyfeel that relief and feel
(41:12):
yourself kind of coming backdown into that place of
regulation and you're, you're sogood.
It's in fact like if I wake upin the middle of the night and
can't get back to sleep, I justsit there in bed and tap until
I'm like, okay, we're good,we're gonna go back to sleep,
like it's totally one of mygo-tos yeah, and I love that too
(41:32):
, because it is like everybodyhas a different go-to.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
But also, until you've tried them all, like you,
you don't know what works foryou.
And maybe one does work on thefly and one is you're like this
is like coming home.
So, even looking at like EFTbeing the one that you like
doing on the fly, like what hasbeen the thing that has helped
you, I know like your brandinglately has been on fire, like
(41:56):
your magic is radiating onsocial media and I'm like I
don't know what Annie did tounlock this.
But like what do what do we do?
Like for the person that's beenin this, like stuck, stagnant
energy and they're like I justI've lost it.
I lost the passion.
I don't know how to show up, Idon't know what I want to share.
Like how, how does somebodycome back to that magic?
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Yeah.
So I think number one allowingyourself to take a pause there
were so many years in mybusiness that I was like I have
to make again.
We're going back to the halftwos and shoulds.
I have to make the social mediapost and I don't know what to
say, so I'm just gonna throwsome garbage up there.
And it's not me, I'm just goingto copy and paste what somebody
(42:41):
else did, which is definitelynot me.
And I felt so unaligned, likeeverything I was putting out it
wasn't my voice, it wasn't mymagic, and I honestly, looking
back, I'm like I don't even knowthat I really knew who I was or
what my magic was, and so,first of all, it's okay to take
(43:01):
a little bit of a pause Ifyou're feeling like you don't
know what you do to help peopleor who that person is that you
help and, as you guys know, I amnot super big on the whole
niche thing, but like we alsohave to sometimes have somebody.
We can't be like I'm going tohelp everybody on the planet,
right, like we have to bespeaking to a certain general
(43:24):
type of person in general withour messaging, and so it was
just I was just throwing stuffout for so long that it wasn't
me.
I wasn't speaking to anybody, Iwas just kind of putting stuff
up to go through the motions andcheck the boxes and I was
honestly so burnt out that I waslike I don't even care anymore,
(43:48):
like I'm just doing it, and soI took a very long pause there.
I actually on social media ifyou scroll back through my stuff
it was a couple of years that Ireally was not very present on
there and I was doing a ton ofwork in the background.
I was doing the life coachcertification and then I was
(44:08):
doing like going through aneurosomatic certification that
I've talked about Trish is doingthat with me in the same class,
which is so much fun.
But just going through thesehealing modalities and learning,
looking at all the trauma I had, so much trauma, response to
(44:29):
all kinds of things.
And so taking that quiet pauseand starting to ask myself, what
do I love doing?
And I realized that a lot ofthe client work I was doing I
did not love.
I dreaded it.
It was sucking my soul andbeing okay with shutting that
off, which was terrifying.
(44:49):
To just shut my business offand giving myself.
I gave myself a good like threeor four months, just be like
what do I wanna do?
Let me explore, let me play.
Going back to having fun in mybusiness again.
I'll be honest, I don't think Ieven knew what fun was Like.
I, you know, I was like I don'teven know how to have fun, and
(45:12):
especially not in business.
Business never really was likefun.
Fun I was just driven to do itbecause I wanted to help people
so badly but it wasn't fun.
And so, adding that element inand I think the more I explored
and got in touch with my higherself and I'm still figuring all
(45:33):
of that out but just starting toallow myself to explore and
play and have the quiet when Ineeded it and not force myself
to put things out just becausethat's what I was supposed to do
in my head.
And, yeah, embrace the person.
I think deep down, I alwaysknew who I was supposed to do in
my head.
And yeah, like, embrace theperson.
Like I think, deep down, Ialways knew who I was.
(45:53):
She was always in there.
It's just I had so many layerson top of it.
I had lost her for a while, andso uncovering and finding her
and being like ooh, like thatfeels so magical and so amazing.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
And when I have like look at this branding, I'm like,
yes, like that is a leatherpants, or like yes, I love that,
just like like spherical dress,and all of the things was like
this is Annie Like, this isAnnie like yeah, you get to be
(46:33):
both you can be like spicy andand like, oh my gosh, even like
a year ago, I bought thoseleather pants.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Like well, over a year ago, I literally had never
worn them and I was like put,finally, put them on, like, yeah
, like this is me, like this isa side of me.
Yes, I am like light and airyand all of that stuff, but I am
also like there's that dark sideand I get to be both so, but
part of I mean again part of it.
(47:00):
My nervous system was sohijacked for so many years and
so allowing myself to do thosethings that were taking care of
me was such an important pieceof that and, kind of going back
to the challenge, like to sharea little bit more.
So it is going to be about yes,let's rewire some business
(47:23):
systems and also rewire ournervous system right, because
you can't.
If your nervous system is so offthe charts, hijacked, you're
not going to sit down and beable to build like the full tech
systems that you need, or evenget to that place where you've
been trashed, where you're like,okay, like this doesn't feel
(47:45):
good and it's because, like,this isn't meant for me, but
this does feel good, I just needsome help like getting to that
place of being able to do it.
If you're just flying blind andin that heightened state of
nervous system dysregulationlike you're, you're just going
to wallow, wallow in the mud andgo nowhere, just kind of be
(48:07):
stuck wallow, wallow in the mudand and go nowhere, just kind of
be stuck.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
Yeah, I love too.
So, as you were sharing thelike, take a step back.
I want to ask, like the peoplethat are listening to this right
now, take a second and pauseand be like how did my body
react to that idea of takingthree or four months off, three
or four weeks?
How does your body feel abouttaking three or four days off of
this?
Because, like, we're coming upon summer vacation and this is
why we want to do this, becausethere's so many people that
(48:36):
they're like okay, if I do thesystems, I'm gonna have free
time.
What am I gonna do with thatfree time?
Because every time I have freetime, I'm constantly thinking
about like, oh my god, I shouldbe doing something else, right,
like calming your nervous systemin this place, that it doesn't
have a trauma response to youhanging out on the couch for the
afternoon or leave your phoneat home.
(48:58):
Oh my God, how many times haveyou like maybe been like I don't
even know where my phone is,like it's laws that were like
triggered, like we need to cometo a place where it is scary and
uncomfortable, butuncomfortable to be like who am
I?
Like I could take that time,but oh that's scary work.
Like just validating that thatit's okay, that it feels that
(49:21):
way, but also it's not going tochange unless we implement these
systems.
Because even like when I loveyou're talking about, like the
leather pants, like you boughtthem but then you don't wear
them.
And when we went to the higherself party and as she rises in
Montreal, I borrowed yourclothes because I was like I
don't know what my higher selfwears, like I guess my higher
(49:41):
self is okay with borrowingclothes from friends and like
this, like dress that kind ofgets a little too short when we
start, when we start dancing.
But like I'll say, be okay withthat little bit of like
scandalous energy tonight, likeexploring and playing.
You don't know until you try.
And I guess, like at the end ofthe day, if we think about that
like five-day challenge, canyou come in with that?
(50:04):
Like I don't know until I try,nothing else has worked.
I've paid for all the things,I've tried all of the things.
Nothing's clicking like I justdon't know.
Come give it a try.
Tell my kids all the time youhave to at least have two bites
where you tell me you don't likesomething right and like, and
then after that, if you trulydon't like it, like I'm not
(50:25):
gonna make you eat it again.
And so so, coming in and beinglike, can I come in and explore
this?
Can I come get curious whatit's like to sit down and do
tech and not jack my system?
Can I feel what it's like whenI have the systems in place and
I can actually take a downtime?
Can I, can I create this likesafety in my body so that when I
(50:48):
say I am going to close thedoors for two weeks because
that's what I did in January, wemoved and like all those things
, I was like I need to reset mysystem and I had to accept that
in the month of the year that weare like as coaches, we're like
this should be my highestincome month.
Last year it was for me it wasmy first $10,000 month.
I cried in sport check when Iwas like I just had this pay in
(51:11):
full come through, like, oh mygod.
It was really hard for me todetach from that like pressure
on myself in January to be likethis is supposed to be your
biggest month.
You want to have thissix-figure year.
You can't start off being likeI'm actually not promoting
anything.
I'm actually not launchinganything.
I don't want new one-on beinglike I'm actually not promoting
anything, I'm actually notlaunching anything.
I don't want new one-on-oneclients.
I'm having a bit of an identitycrisis and I need to keep my
(51:35):
business safe.
So I'm going to go work on mysense of safety and it was rocky
.
Like I had to have those supportsystems and you and our
sisterhood and our certificationand our mentor.
Like you have to have people inyour corner to do that and feel
good about it.
It's the safety net when youwalk out on the tight wire.
Like I guess, like the.
(51:56):
The last thing that I kind ofwant to just touch on for people
is like you don't have to do italone.
There's that stigma that's likeit's lonely at the top.
No, it's lonely at the top whenyour system's fried and you're
burnt out.
But like at the top we're goingon a yacht in October.
Like that's not lonely andeverybody there is wildly
(52:19):
successful.
Like get in rooms with peoplethat can support you in
different ways and and justexplore until you do find those
pieces of you, because a lot ofus have been so lost in
motherhood and in our businessand in the hustle that we don't
know who we are.
So let's, let's take that fivedays in april and find who you
(52:42):
are and build that safety andand do some business work,
because you can do both at thesame time.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
So if you've been listening andyou're like, yes, I am ready to
join, I want to explore this,or I am a full send, yes, I am
all in.
The challenge is called rewiredand regulated and we're going
to drop the link in the shownotes so that you can get
registered.
It's totally free.
(53:10):
So no cost.
No cost to just our gift to you.
So I'm super excited tocollaborate with you on this.
Trish.
We've done I feel like we'vedone so many little tiny things
together and coach together andrun workshops together, but
never publicly really launchedanything together, and I'm so
(53:32):
excited to teach this with you.
Speaker 3 (53:34):
Yeah, full send collaboration.
It's going to be so fun.
And I think the other thing is,like the free that's we want to
take out that, like our nervoussystem has a reaction when
we're jacked and we have todecide if we want to invest like
sometimes, if we are totallyed,and we have to decide if we
want to invest, like sometimes,if we are totally hijacked.
Choosing to make an investmentis like that's a triggering
thing.
So we wanted to remove that.
(53:55):
The purpose of this is to helpregulate you.
That's why it's free, becausefull send you can just be like
yes, sign me up right now.
Like, while you're listening tothis, you can be going through
the form Right.
Like, while you're listening tothis, you can be going through
the form right.
Speaker 2 (54:13):
So, yeah, just invitation to come explore and
play and build that sense ofsafety.
Yes, 100%.
It's going to be so good.
I'm so excited for all thebeautiful people we're going to
have in there with us.
Well, before we wrap up, isthere anything else?
I feel like we've had such anamazing conversation.
Is there anything else that youhave to share and wrap up?
Speaker 3 (54:38):
I don't know.
I feel like, I feel complete.
I think that's somethingsometimes, that we're like, we
feel like we have to saysomething, but really it's okay
to just say I feel good, like wefeel like we have to say
something, but really it's okayto just say I feel good.
Speaker 2 (54:54):
Yeah, well, me too.
So I just wanted to do a littlecheck-in with you, but, yeah, I
am also feeling like this wassuch a beautiful complete
conversation so we can go aheadand sign off then.
We are so excited to see awhole bunch of you in the
challenge at the end of themonth, or to hop in if the
challenge live is over.
We will make sure that you canregister for replays and still
(55:16):
go through it.
Even if you're not doing itlive with us, you'll still be
able to get all that magic andenergy.
So thank you so much forlistening to this episode of
Effortlessly Productive.
I hope you have a beautiful dayand I'll catch you next time.
Thanks, everybody.
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The World's Most Dangerous Morning Show, The Breakfast Club, With DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, And Charlamagne Tha God!