June 10, 2025 • 31 mins
Ever experienced that heart-sinking moment when your carefully configured tech simply refuses to work? That overwhelming urge to launch your laptop into orbit isn't just frustration—it's your nervous system in full fight-or-flight mode.
When I recently attempted to set up a simple email address for my rebranded business, The System Seer, I found myself ready to throw something despite years of tech experience. Despite understanding domains, DNS records, and email hosting, I still hit roadblocks that triggered intense emotional responses. This happens to all of us, regardless of tech proficiency.
What's actually happening in these moments goes deeper than technical glitches. Our primitive brain interprets tech failure as personal inadequacy, triggering those intense fight, flight, or freeze responses. The frustration feels disproportionate because subconsciously, we're making these failures mean something about our worthiness as entrepreneurs. Those stories—"Maybe I'm not cut out for this" or "What if I'm not smart enough?"—resurface with each technical challenge.
The path through this emotional minefield starts with remembering that technology is purely logical. Computers follow programmed instructions; they don't harbor personal vendettas. Most "glitches" are actually missed steps in a process that become apparent when you develop systematic troubleshooting skills. Going line by line through setup processes often reveals simple oversights—like the two DNS records I forgot to configure that solved my email issue.
Equally vital is knowing when to ask for help rather than trying to DIY everything, tackling one system at a time instead of overwhelming yourself, and prioritizing nervous system regulation when emotions run high. Step away, breathe deeply, move your body—only return once you're calm enough to approach problems logically.
Ready to transform your relationship with business technology? Visit thesystemseer.com to learn more about the System Seer Playbook—your guide to building systems without the emotional rollercoaster. Share your biggest tech frustration in the comments!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's episode of Effortlessly
Productive.
Today we are going to betalking about what to do when
tech turns on you.
All of us have had those timeswhen we just literally wanna
burn it all down because we areso frustrated with the tech side
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of our business.
That's what we're gonna bechatting about today.
I'm really excited to bringthis episode to you because I've
had this highly requested byquite a number of people
recently.
But before we dive in, I justhave a little mini announcement
about the podcast.
So summer is upon us, my kidshave one more week of school and
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, with the chaos of summer andtraveling and vacations, I have
decided, in order to give me andmy family just a little bit of
extra space and capacity thissummer this is the first summer
that my kids are mostly going tobe home that I have not signed
them up for a ton of camps and Iwould like to spend a lot of
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time with them, especially asthey are getting a little bit
older.
So the episodes for thispodcast are gonna be going to
bi-weekly instead of weekly, soevery other week just for a
couple of months.
So by the end of August we willbe back to every single week.
But if you're wondering oh, didI miss an episode?
What happened?
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Is my podcast app not loading?
Is YouTube not loading?
It is not you.
It is that I have decided tojust give a little bit more
space through the summer.
So, with that being said, weare going to dive in to what to
do when your tech turns on youand you're like I am done.
We are just, we're just gonnaburn this whole thing down.
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Maybe I am not meant to havetech in my business, maybe this
is not for me, maybe I'm justkind of capped where I am, and I
wanna start off with a littlebit of a story, because I think
often somebody who would saythat you're not tech savvy they
look at somebody like me andthey are like oh, like she's so
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good with tech, like it all justcomes so easily, she must never
have any problems, and thatcould not be further from the
truth.
So I want to tell you a littlestory about a couple of weeks
ago.
So, as you know, I have beenshifting my branding from AVM
coaching, which I have used fora number of years now, and it's
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been amazing.
Those are my initials.
I love my name.
However, I knew that there wassomething waiting for me with my
branding.
I knew that my branding wasgoing to have a little bit of a
shift at some point, because Iwanted to kind of embody this,
just this other brand, thisother like alter ego, if you
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will.
However, it took me a few yearsto find her and I want to give
you a little bit of permission,because I know so many people
who are like I have to come upwith my name, my business name.
I have to know this.
I have to know who I want to be, what I want to teach before I
can get started.
And it is an evolution.
I invite you to look at it asmore of an evolution.
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As you probably know, I havebeen shifting my branding over
to the system seer, which issuper exciting.
I am so in love with my brandand it feels so right.
However, I knew I also neededthat journey over the last few
years in order to find her.
So I have been shifting mybranding.
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I bought a new domain name, so Istill have my abmcoachingcom.
I also have the systemseercomand also systemseer, just in
case people get a little bitconfused and forget the in front
of it.
So I have these new domainnames and I wanted to create an
email address for myself.
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So I am annie at avmcoachingcomand I also wanted to have an
email address that is annie atthesystemseercom.
So I go about setting up thisbrand new email address and I am
over in Google Workspace and Iam creating this.
So I have my domain actuallybought and hosted through my
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Coach OS software, but we needto get an email host set up.
So if you don't know what I'mtalking about, that is okay.
This is like the nitty grittytech stuff and I will be
perfectly honest, I can navigatemy way around domains.
I can navigate my way aroundadding DNS records.
Those are just things that tell, like the back end of the
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internet, if you type in thesystem, seercom or
avmcoachingcom, where on earththe website and all of that
stuff is.
So we are in the back endupdating all of these records
that are like more coding typeof stuff.
If you've ever done that.
We're entering IP addresses, weare entering host names.
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It's a bunch of really, reallydense techie stuff.
So I go set all this up and Isend myself a test email and it
does not come through and I'mlike, okay, well, let me try
sending from that email address.
And I can't even find thatemail address in my list of
email addresses to send from.
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I have like 2,700 emailaddresses, it feels like with
all the companies and myhusband's business and all the
things I have going on, all ofmy old email addresses that I've
used throughout the years.
So I finally get that emailaddress added to the list and I
go and try sending from thatemail address and it is not
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working.
I went and double checkedeverything.
I'm like I really think I havethis set up correctly.
And that was one of thosemoments where I was like, okay,
I am feeling my frustrationreally start to rise right now.
I've double checked everything.
I think I set this up correctly.
I've done this before.
I think I set this up correctly.
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I've done this before.
What am I missing?
Before that what am I missing?
Question came through.
It was that moment that I thinka lot of people hit, where they
literally just want to throwtheir laptop out the window.
And I will be completely honest, I messed around with it for a
while and it still wasn't quiteworking right.
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I still was not able to send orreceive emails at that email
address and I literally wantedto throw my computer across the
room.
First of all, this iscompletely normal.
It is completely normal to getfrustrated.
It's completely normal to setsomething up and it doesn't
behave the way that you quiteexpected.
Or you load up your softwarefor the first time and you're
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like, oh my goodness, I don'teven know where to begin.
That is a very normalexperience.
So it's not a situation wherethis is like you versus tech.
What is happening in this momentis we are actually hitting a
point of nervous system overload.
Our nervous system is going ohmy gosh, this isn't working
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correctly and we are havingeither a fight or flight
response, and that's usuallywhere you want to throw that
laptop across the room or outthe window, where you're like so
frustrated because our brain isinterpreting this as almost a
sign of like it's not safe,right, I tried to do this and it
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didn't work, and I'm makingthat mean something about me,
and what I'm making it meanabout me is probably that I'm
not smart enough to do this.
I am out of my element, I don'tknow what I am doing and that
part of our brain that is soprimitive that it thinks that if
we cannot fit in, if we cannotfigure things out, if we cannot
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solve this problem, that we'regoing to be ostracized, that
we're not gonna be part of thecommunity anymore.
So this is part of like thatbelonging, that not wanting to
look stupid, that not wanting tolook like we don't know what
we're doing.
That comes back to a veryprimitive part of our brain and
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very primitive conditioning thatwe do not wanna be left out of
the community Because way backin the day that was very
dangerous, right.
We could not survive if we wereon our own as a human or very
few humans could actuallysurvive that.
So we have a very stronginstinct to not want to be seen
as stupid, to not want to beseen as like I don't know what
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I'm doing, I can't carry myweight, I can't do my part.
Or we go into freeze where weare literally so overloaded that
we just get stuck and we'relike I can't move forward, I
can't do anything, I can't moveback, my workday is over, I am
just in this place of freeze,and that is also a nervous
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system response.
That is where we get into thatburnout of like oh my gosh, like
another thing.
You're so overwhelmed, you'reso stuck.
So I think, first of all, justrecognizing that when we hit
these responses of feelingoverwhelmed and stuck or like
you want to throw your laptopout the window because you're so
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frustrated and angry, that isliterally just your nervous
system in overload.
And that's a really good thingin one way, because we can.
Number one, we can work on thatand we can fix that.
Number two, it's not that youare stupid, it's not that you
are overwhelmed, it's that yournervous system is just having a
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response to an experience it hashad before and we can work
through this.
There are some other thingsgoing on as well.
So it probably is that maybe youdon't have a clear structure, a
clear structure to yourbusiness, a clear structure of
hey, this is what I'm trying toachieve.
Here's the order of things.
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A lot of the time, especiallywith that overload or that
overwhelm that we experience,it's not that one thing that
sent us into that overwhelm.
That was one of the littlepieces of the puzzle.
So maybe it's that you're likeoh my gosh, I just started using
this brand new software, or I'mtrying to get this whole system
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set up and your brain is goingoh my gosh, I have to do this
all at once, so you don't have aclear structure in place of I'm
going to start with A, once Ihave A done, then I'm going to
move to B.
You're trying to process it allat the same time.
You don't have that clear orderof operation.
And, again, the really goodthing about all of that is that
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we can fix that Number one.
It is totally normal, it iswhat we all experience and all
go through, and all of that isfixable.
All of that is stuff that wecan tackle when we have the
right strategies, when we havethe right processes, when we
know what to do in order tostart to regulate our nervous
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system.
We just need some tools in ourtool belt, and we're going to
dive into how to actually startto overcome this.
So I know that in that momentthough, like I said, it's a
really intense feeling, right,it's that feeling of either
being so angry and frustratedthat you want to throw something
or being so overwhelmed andstuck that you literally want to
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crawl up as a ball on the floorand just cry your eyes out.
Right, it is that weight, thatinvisible weight of pressure
that you are putting on yourself.
This is part of why we go intothese nervous system states is
that you are putting on yourselfthis is part of why we go into
these nervous system states isthat you are putting some kind
of pressure on yourself to getthis done.
For a certain reason, you'realso, like I said, probably
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making it mean something aboutyou that you can't figure this
out, that you hit a roadblock,that you don't know what that
next step is that you need totake.
There's some kind of pressurethere that is probably invisible
.
It's probably happening in yoursubconscious.
That is part of why we aregoing into this state.
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We also may be dealing with someperfectionism, and why I'm
bringing that up is I'vestruggled with perfectionism,
like crippling perfectionism,for so many decades of my life.
It is something that I finallyrecognized what was going on.
There were many years that Itold myself it's not
perfectionism.
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I just I have this level ofexcellence that I hold myself to
.
But when I started to reallydive into it, I realized no,
this actually is perfectionism.
It is a fear of looking acertain way to the outside.
It has nothing actually to dowith like me internally.
It's me internally wanting tobe perfect and be a certain way,
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but not because of me, becauseof what I'm afraid that is going
to look like to everybodyaround me, afraid of the
judgment of myself.
When we have this perfectionism,often what happens is we don't
even want to start to try to dosomething if we think that we
may fail.
So we hold ourselves back fromeven getting started, from even
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trying.
Because if we don't even reallytry, then we can always tell
ourselves well, that didn't gothe way that I wanted it to.
I ran into these roadblocks, Igot stuck, but you know what?
That's okay, because I didn'teven really try, I didn't even
really give it my effort.
So it's a way we can letourselves off the hook.
We also may have a fear offailure.
A lot of us have that fear ofI'm going to fail at this.
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How many of us have that storyof I wasn't cut out for this?
I don't know that, being anentrepreneur, that I was really
meant for this.
What if this isn't for me?
What if this is for everybodyelse?
What if I am gonna put in allthis work for so many years and
I'm never gonna have thatsuccess that I dream of?
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That?
I have that vision of that.
I think I deserve that.
I do deserve.
So a lot of that fear offailure starts to come up.
And when we have these littlebits of evidence of like, oh my
gosh, you were failing right, Itried to get my email address
set up and it's not working, oh,another check mark in the
subconscious of why I failed andwhy this was not meant for me
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and I was not meant for this.
We have lots of past experiencesof getting stuck and maybe you
had a past experience where yougot stuck and you were not able
in that moment, you didn't havethe tools to pull yourself out
of that stuckness.
And when I say the tools, thatcould be like even somebody else
who's a resource for you.
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You didn't have the support.
You didn't have the support.
You didn't have the nervoussystem, awareness and ability to
regulate that nervous systemback to the place, to start
moving again.
Whatever it is, whatever thatreason was, you got stuck in the
past and our subconscious isusing that evidence from the
past.
It's going oh, we've been herebefore when this happened.
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Before we just stayed stuck andwe weren't able to get
ourselves out of it, or we gotstuck in that moment and just
kind of gave up, we didn't eventry.
So our subconscious, our headvoice, thinks that we are going
to just be stuck in that placeagain, right.
And so that's part of why thatfeeling in that moment can be so
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intense because our past iscoming back again.
It's proving that story aboutourselves again, and that hurts,
that doesn't feel good.
We don't want to experiencethat again.
So that's why it's so intense.
And then we have all thesebeliefs of again, like I talked
about, I'm so stupid, I'm notgood at this, I'm never going to
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be able to learn this, like,what if this isn't meant for me?
What if I'm not good enough tobe an entrepreneur?
What if I'm not enough tofigure this out?
Those stories run on replay inour head and those actually
create our reality.
We actually manifest those.
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As a life coach, we could gothrough what is going on in our
subconscious.
Maybe that's for anotherepisode, but those are the
things of why this feeling is sointense in that moment, and so
I want to offer you a few littleshifts that we can make here.
So, first of all, I want toremind you this is a reminder
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for myself as well.
When I get in these moments, Iremind myself that technology is
logical.
It's not a person who'sthrowing a wrench into the way,
into the system, just to screwme over.
The computer does not thinkthat way.
Tech is totally logical.
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It is following a series ofinstructions that have been
programmed into it, and maybethere is a glitch.
Sometimes we do actually runinto glitches.
That happens.
That's more of like oh my gosh,I didn't set up this automation
correctly, or like whoeverdesigned this forgot a step in
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there, and we can reach out andsay, hey, this isn't working.
Can you just double check thateverything is set up correctly?
Usually, though, what ishappening is that we have missed
a step in the process, and thisis where I encourage you to get
really good and start topractice troubleshooting.
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Troubleshooting is a skill set,and I come from this from many
different angles from the techangle also, from my husband's
automotive shop.
There are very few techniciansleft who know how to actually
troubleshoot, because it is alogical process that we take our
brain through, but we have tolearn how to do that.
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It's not something that isnecessarily innate.
Some of us come by it morenaturally than others, but it's
something you can learn and youcan get better at
Troubleshooting is actually askill, and so I highly encourage
you, especially if you aresomebody who wants to do a lot
of your own tech stuff, or evenif you're like, hey, I don't
want to do a lot of it, but I dowant to understand, just in
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case I run into something.
I want to understand how thisworks.
When we start to develop ourtroubleshooting skills, it is
just realizing that we're goingto go through line by line and
we're just going to check Okay,we're going to start here at
ground one.
Do I have this one thing set upcorrectly?
So in the case of my emailaddress, I was like, okay, let
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me go double check that I didactually add my new domain to my
email host.
Is that new domain in there?
Okay, new domain is in there.
Next step is making sure thatthere actually is an email
address that has my name at thebeginning of it.
Okay, that is there, and soit's starting to go through the
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logical process of what could behappening, and I will tell you
when I did do this.
I finally hit a point of goingthrough, step by step and again,
all of the email DNS domainstuff.
Like it is a lot more techiewe're going to get to that in a
minute of what to do when it isliterally techie over your head,
when you're like I don'tunderstand computer programming
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and so like I don't even knowwhere to start with the
troubleshooting process, that isokay, I'm going to give you a
solution for that as well.
So we need to go line by lineuntil we find it, and I finally
realized that there were two DNSrecords that I had forgotten to
copy over.
When I went back through and Ijust checked my steps one by one
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by one, I caught where mymistake was and as soon as I
fixed those and DNS can take alittle bit of time it was about
10 minutes later I tried sendinga couple more test emails and
they were in my email box.
So the problem was fixed.
But I would not have foundthose if I hadn't started going
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through the troubleshootingsteps, looking line by line of
what happened.
And again, this might not be asituation where you're like, oh,
I understand email and DNSsettings and domain name stuff
well enough to be able totroubleshoot that, but whatever
else you are building, if youset up an automation, let's say,
and you think it should besending you an email in that
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automation and that email is notcoming through.
It's like, ok, well, let'sthink about some steps here.
Is it going to my spam folder?
That's always like a reallygood place to start when we're
looking at email.
Right, ok, it's not in the spamfolder.
It probably didn't send.
So let's go into the automationand see how is that automation
starting?
What is the trigger that isstarting that automation?
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Is that trigger actually beingtriggered by what I'm doing?
Am I filling out the correctform?
Am I purchasing the correctcourse, like whatever it is that
we're starting that off with?
And then you just go throughthe steps, right.
So I encourage you to start tobuild your troubleshooting
skills.
Again, it's all that logicalthinking and remembering that
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when we are dealing with tech,it's not like an opinion thing,
it is a very logical thing, andnine times out of 10, it's that
we've just missed a step alongthe way.
Sometimes I've had things whereI'm like it's not showing
correctly, like this web page Ibuilt, and I'm like, oh, because
I forgot to hit the publishbutton.
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Right, there was a step that Ijust forgot along the way and
that is okay.
So start to learn how to trackthings down one step at a time.
I will also say we should nottry to DIY every single piece of
our tech.
There is some stuff, like I said, that is over my head and I
reach out to support and I askfor the help because I don't
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have access to the backendcoding.
There is nothing I can do.
And if you're like that is sooverwhelming to me, the email
setup if that is overwhelming toyou, if you're like I literally
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don't have the knowledge baseto even begin to set this up or
troubleshoot, there is nothingwrong with calling in some help,
with finding somebody who is anexpert at that stuff who can
help you.
Please lean on the supportsystems that you have.
So that is a huge shift that,rather than believing I have to
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do this all myself, I have tofigure this out myself.
I am totally alone in thisprocess and if I get stuck, I'm
just stuck because I don't knowwhat I'm doing.
We can have a huge shift thereto leaning on the support
systems that we have, asking forhelp.
That's why I have so manyclients who come to me and
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they're like okay, I couldtotally go build a funnel, but
I'm trying to move stuff overfrom another platform and right
now it's feeling reallyoverwhelming even just to like
move my images and videos toyour CoachOS software.
Can you help me with that onestep, because once those are in
there, I'm totally good to gorunning with the funnels.
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It's just the actual moving ofall of my image and video files
that has me stuck.
Or I want to start emailmarketing and I know how to go
in and compose an email, but Ihave this email list and I'm
having a really hard timegetting it imported.
Can you help me get my emaillist imported?
Sometimes it's a really smallpiece and, yes, we probably
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could figure that piece out.
But just having somebody takecare of that one little tiny
thing can be that thing thatlaunches us off and suddenly
we're not stuck anymore.
So lean on that Ask for help.
Also, I highly encourage you,like I said, do not try to build
10 different systems at once.
That is a recipe for eitherhitting that overwhelm, crying
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on the floor or throwing yourlaptop out the window.
Even me, I do not try to build10 different things at a time.
I pick one system and I breakthat system down into all its
little tiny pieces and I buildthem one at a time.
It's a very similar thoughtprocess to that troubleshooting
as well.
Right, because it's a verylogical thing.
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And this is part of why, as avisual person, I draw all this
out.
I'm like, okay, here's the onesystem I am building.
I pick that one thing and thenI literally draw out on a piece
of paper all the differentthings that I need to build, all
the pieces of that system, howthey're connected, so that I can
make sure that things arehooked up correctly.
Then I test everything at theend to make sure it's working
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right.
So I catch the mistakes that Ihave made and inevitably, almost
every single thing I build.
When I go back through to checkif it's working, I'm like, oops
, I forgot, I forgot to makethat button go to the right
place, right, so it's just thatlogical process.
So again, building that skillof getting really good at those
logical steps that we need totake to walk ourselves through
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is huge.
Take one action at a time tomove the needle.
We don't have to have a fullyautomated business tomorrow.
In fact, you will not have afully automated business
tomorrow.
Even if you hire an expert andhire a team, they probably
cannot build a fully automatedsystem, a fully done business,
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in 24 hours.
So don't you try to do thateither.
You don't need to do that.
Take one little thing to movethat needle forward today.
Maybe that is something likeyou're like okay, I want to get
started with email marketing,but there's all these things,
all these things I have to learnand have to do and all of that.
Let's just start with importingthat contact list.
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Pick one little thing thatyou're going to get done and
take action from there, ratherthan trying to complete an
entire system all at the sametime.
Those are some really bigshifts.
Those alone will help yournervous system.
I promise if you implement thatand have those shifts of how
you're thinking about buildingand how you're thinking about
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your tech, that will help yournervous system.
However, if you find yourself inthat place of wanting to throw
the laptop or crawl on the floorand cry, it is okay.
We can do some nervous systemregulation.
We can take some deep breathseven just standing up from your
laptop.
So if you're in like I want tocurl up and cry on the floor
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mode, go get some physicalactivity Not saying you have to
do a full workout.
Go, walk around your house forfive minutes.
Just shake it out, dance it out, put on your favorite song and
sing.
Just get moving again, get yourbody moving again.
And if you're in that placewhere you're like I am literally
throwing this thing across theroom, let's get up.
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Let's remove ourself from thesituation.
Maybe you walk outside withsome bare feet on the grass to
help ground yourself, take somedeep breaths, bring it down
right.
We're going to bring thatnervous system level down and
then, when we're calm again andwe're not in that fight or
flight mode, we can go back andsit at our computer.
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But it's really important toget back into our body before we
do that.
So I definitely suggest justtrying those things.
If you enjoyed this episode andyou want some more.
If you're like I would love toknow how to break these systems
down.
I would love to know even whatsystems to start with.
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I would love to have somebodyin my corner walking me through
all of this, and I woulddefinitely love to know some
things to do when my nervoussystem is totally hijacked and
out of whack, in addition tobecause there's a million more
things we can do to regulate ournervous system.
Besides going and getting alittle bit of motion, or like
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going outside taking some deepbreaths, we have a whole host of
things that we can do.
I just don't have time in thisepisode to dive into every
single one of them.
If you are curious, if you arewanting that skill set, that
toolbox to use for bothregulating your nervous system
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and for helping you organizeyour builds and figure out what
systems to build, in what order,what the pieces may be, I am so
excited that my System Seerplaybook is going to be ready
very soon and it is actually inpre-sale right now.
If you're listening to thisepisode when it is released, you
can go pre-order it right nowhave a huge savings, by the way
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so run and do that.
Or if you're listening to thisepisode later, about a month
after it's released, theplaybook is ready and you can go
get your hands on it right now.
It literally has a checklistfor you to pinpoint where you
need to focus or want to focusin your business.
It then has a 30-day blueprintthat will help you customize
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what systems to focus on, inwhat order, and how to go about
making sure that you arebuilding them, setting aside the
time, but not hitting thatoverwhelm.
It has all the nervous systemregulation to go along with that
.
So when you do get into thosebuilds and you notice maybe your
heart rate's coming up, maybethat frustration is building,
maybe you are going catatonic onthe floor.
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It will have all the tools thatyou need to help bring yourself
back so that you can be makingforward progress in your
business.
So you can use this by usingthe 30 day blueprint, which is
customized to you, or you canalso go through it front to back
so it is fully digital.
Don't have to like buy anythingand wait for it to come in the
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mail.
I'm super, super excited forthis for you.
So if you're wanting a littlebit of extra support, definitely
go check that out.
You can go to my website and,as you know, it is now the
system.
Seercom.
Avmcoachingcom will also worktoo.
I did not turn that off, so goto whichever one you want and
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check it out.
I am so excited to help youstart to get some of these
systems built in a way that isnot taking you into that
overwhelm, where tech is notturning on you, where you don't
just want to burn it all down,where you're excited to actually
go implement and go get thesesystems built for you so that
you can support yourself, sothat you can have more capacity,
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so that you can literallymagnify your energy and your
time.
You're gonna get so much energyand time back by having these
business systems built and thatstructure in place.
Things are gonna feel a lotless chaotic and you're going to
be able to focus on the thingsthat you love doing the most in
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your business, like actuallyhelping our clients right.
So I hope you enjoyed thisepisode.
I would love to hear what partof it spoke the most to you.
Drop it in the comments and Iwill see you on the next episode
of Effortlessly Productive.
Have a beautiful rest of yourday.
Welcome to today's episode of Effortlessly
Productive.
Today we are going to betalking about what to do when
tech turns on you.
All of us have had those timeswhen we just literally wanna
burn it all down because we areso frustrated with the tech side
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of our business.
That's what we're gonna bechatting about today.
I'm really excited to bringthis episode to you because I've
had this highly requested byquite a number of people
recently.
But before we dive in, I justhave a little mini announcement
about the podcast.
So summer is upon us, my kidshave one more week of school and
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, with the chaos of summer andtraveling and vacations, I have
decided, in order to give me andmy family just a little bit of
extra space and capacity thissummer this is the first summer
that my kids are mostly going tobe home that I have not signed
them up for a ton of camps and Iwould like to spend a lot of
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time with them, especially asthey are getting a little bit
older.
So the episodes for thispodcast are gonna be going to
bi-weekly instead of weekly, soevery other week just for a
couple of months.
So by the end of August we willbe back to every single week.
But if you're wondering oh, didI miss an episode?
What happened?
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Is my podcast app not loading?
Is YouTube not loading?
It is not you.
It is that I have decided tojust give a little bit more
space through the summer.
So, with that being said, weare going to dive in to what to
do when your tech turns on youand you're like I am done.
We are just, we're just gonnaburn this whole thing down.
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Maybe I am not meant to havetech in my business, maybe this
is not for me, maybe I'm justkind of capped where I am, and I
wanna start off with a littlebit of a story, because I think
often somebody who would saythat you're not tech savvy they
look at somebody like me andthey are like oh, like she's so
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good with tech, like it all justcomes so easily, she must never
have any problems, and thatcould not be further from the
truth.
So I want to tell you a littlestory about a couple of weeks
ago.
So, as you know, I have beenshifting my branding from AVM
coaching, which I have used fora number of years now, and it's
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been amazing.
Those are my initials.
I love my name.
However, I knew that there wassomething waiting for me with my
branding.
I knew that my branding wasgoing to have a little bit of a
shift at some point, because Iwanted to kind of embody this,
just this other brand, thisother like alter ego, if you
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will.
However, it took me a few yearsto find her and I want to give
you a little bit of permission,because I know so many people
who are like I have to come upwith my name, my business name.
I have to know this.
I have to know who I want to be, what I want to teach before I
can get started.
And it is an evolution.
I invite you to look at it asmore of an evolution.
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As you probably know, I havebeen shifting my branding over
to the system seer, which issuper exciting.
I am so in love with my brandand it feels so right.
However, I knew I also neededthat journey over the last few
years in order to find her.
So I have been shifting mybranding.
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I bought a new domain name, so Istill have my abmcoachingcom.
I also have the systemseercomand also systemseer, just in
case people get a little bitconfused and forget the in front
of it.
So I have these new domainnames and I wanted to create an
email address for myself.
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So I am annie at avmcoachingcomand I also wanted to have an
email address that is annie atthesystemseercom.
So I go about setting up thisbrand new email address and I am
over in Google Workspace and Iam creating this.
So I have my domain actuallybought and hosted through my
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Coach OS software, but we needto get an email host set up.
So if you don't know what I'mtalking about, that is okay.
This is like the nitty grittytech stuff and I will be
perfectly honest, I can navigatemy way around domains.
I can navigate my way aroundadding DNS records.
Those are just things that tell, like the back end of the
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internet, if you type in thesystem, seercom or
avmcoachingcom, where on earththe website and all of that
stuff is.
So we are in the back endupdating all of these records
that are like more coding typeof stuff.
If you've ever done that.
We're entering IP addresses, weare entering host names.
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It's a bunch of really, reallydense techie stuff.
So I go set all this up and Isend myself a test email and it
does not come through and I'mlike, okay, well, let me try
sending from that email address.
And I can't even find thatemail address in my list of
email addresses to send from.
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I have like 2,700 emailaddresses, it feels like with
all the companies and myhusband's business and all the
things I have going on, all ofmy old email addresses that I've
used throughout the years.
So I finally get that emailaddress added to the list and I
go and try sending from thatemail address and it is not
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working.
I went and double checkedeverything.
I'm like I really think I havethis set up correctly.
And that was one of thosemoments where I was like, okay,
I am feeling my frustrationreally start to rise right now.
I've double checked everything.
I think I set this up correctly.
I've done this before.
I think I set this up correctly.
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I've done this before.
What am I missing?
Before that what am I missing?
Question came through.
It was that moment that I thinka lot of people hit, where they
literally just want to throwtheir laptop out the window.
And I will be completely honest, I messed around with it for a
while and it still wasn't quiteworking right.
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I still was not able to send orreceive emails at that email
address and I literally wantedto throw my computer across the
room.
First of all, this iscompletely normal.
It is completely normal to getfrustrated.
It's completely normal to setsomething up and it doesn't
behave the way that you quiteexpected.
Or you load up your softwarefor the first time and you're
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like, oh my goodness, I don'teven know where to begin.
That is a very normalexperience.
So it's not a situation wherethis is like you versus tech.
What is happening in this momentis we are actually hitting a
point of nervous system overload.
Our nervous system is going ohmy gosh, this isn't working
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correctly and we are havingeither a fight or flight
response, and that's usuallywhere you want to throw that
laptop across the room or outthe window, where you're like so
frustrated because our brain isinterpreting this as almost a
sign of like it's not safe,right, I tried to do this and it
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didn't work, and I'm makingthat mean something about me,
and what I'm making it meanabout me is probably that I'm
not smart enough to do this.
I am out of my element, I don'tknow what I am doing and that
part of our brain that is soprimitive that it thinks that if
we cannot fit in, if we cannotfigure things out, if we cannot
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solve this problem, that we'regoing to be ostracized, that
we're not gonna be part of thecommunity anymore.
So this is part of like thatbelonging, that not wanting to
look stupid, that not wanting tolook like we don't know what
we're doing.
That comes back to a veryprimitive part of our brain and
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very primitive conditioning thatwe do not wanna be left out of
the community Because way backin the day that was very
dangerous, right.
We could not survive if we wereon our own as a human or very
few humans could actuallysurvive that.
So we have a very stronginstinct to not want to be seen
as stupid, to not want to beseen as like I don't know what
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I'm doing, I can't carry myweight, I can't do my part.
Or we go into freeze where weare literally so overloaded that
we just get stuck and we'relike I can't move forward, I
can't do anything, I can't moveback, my workday is over, I am
just in this place of freeze,and that is also a nervous
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system response.
That is where we get into thatburnout of like oh my gosh, like
another thing.
You're so overwhelmed, you'reso stuck.
So I think, first of all, justrecognizing that when we hit
these responses of feelingoverwhelmed and stuck or like
you want to throw your laptopout the window because you're so
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frustrated and angry, that isliterally just your nervous
system in overload.
And that's a really good thingin one way, because we can.
Number one, we can work on thatand we can fix that.
Number two, it's not that youare stupid, it's not that you
are overwhelmed, it's that yournervous system is just having a
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response to an experience it hashad before and we can work
through this.
There are some other thingsgoing on as well.
So it probably is that maybe youdon't have a clear structure, a
clear structure to yourbusiness, a clear structure of
hey, this is what I'm trying toachieve.
Here's the order of things.
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A lot of the time, especiallywith that overload or that
overwhelm that we experience,it's not that one thing that
sent us into that overwhelm.
That was one of the littlepieces of the puzzle.
So maybe it's that you're likeoh my gosh, I just started using
this brand new software, or I'mtrying to get this whole system
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set up and your brain is goingoh my gosh, I have to do this
all at once, so you don't have aclear structure in place of I'm
going to start with A, once Ihave A done, then I'm going to
move to B.
You're trying to process it allat the same time.
You don't have that clear orderof operation.
And, again, the really goodthing about all of that is that
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we can fix that Number one.
It is totally normal, it iswhat we all experience and all
go through, and all of that isfixable.
All of that is stuff that wecan tackle when we have the
right strategies, when we havethe right processes, when we
know what to do in order tostart to regulate our nervous
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system.
We just need some tools in ourtool belt, and we're going to
dive into how to actually startto overcome this.
So I know that in that momentthough, like I said, it's a
really intense feeling, right,it's that feeling of either
being so angry and frustratedthat you want to throw something
or being so overwhelmed andstuck that you literally want to
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crawl up as a ball on the floorand just cry your eyes out.
Right, it is that weight, thatinvisible weight of pressure
that you are putting on yourself.
This is part of why we go intothese nervous system states is
that you are putting on yourselfthis is part of why we go into
these nervous system states isthat you are putting some kind
of pressure on yourself to getthis done.
For a certain reason, you'realso, like I said, probably
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making it mean something aboutyou that you can't figure this
out, that you hit a roadblock,that you don't know what that
next step is that you need totake.
There's some kind of pressurethere that is probably invisible
.
It's probably happening in yoursubconscious.
That is part of why we aregoing into this state.
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We also may be dealing with someperfectionism, and why I'm
bringing that up is I'vestruggled with perfectionism,
like crippling perfectionism,for so many decades of my life.
It is something that I finallyrecognized what was going on.
There were many years that Itold myself it's not
perfectionism.
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I just I have this level ofexcellence that I hold myself to
.
But when I started to reallydive into it, I realized no,
this actually is perfectionism.
It is a fear of looking acertain way to the outside.
It has nothing actually to dowith like me internally.
It's me internally wanting tobe perfect and be a certain way,
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but not because of me, becauseof what I'm afraid that is going
to look like to everybodyaround me, afraid of the
judgment of myself.
When we have this perfectionism,often what happens is we don't
even want to start to try to dosomething if we think that we
may fail.
So we hold ourselves back fromeven getting started, from even
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trying.
Because if we don't even reallytry, then we can always tell
ourselves well, that didn't gothe way that I wanted it to.
I ran into these roadblocks, Igot stuck, but you know what?
That's okay, because I didn'teven really try, I didn't even
really give it my effort.
So it's a way we can letourselves off the hook.
We also may have a fear offailure.
A lot of us have that fear ofI'm going to fail at this.
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How many of us have that storyof I wasn't cut out for this?
I don't know that, being anentrepreneur, that I was really
meant for this.
What if this isn't for me?
What if this is for everybodyelse?
What if I am gonna put in allthis work for so many years and
I'm never gonna have thatsuccess that I dream of?
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That?
I have that vision of that.
I think I deserve that.
I do deserve.
So a lot of that fear offailure starts to come up.
And when we have these littlebits of evidence of like, oh my
gosh, you were failing right, Itried to get my email address
set up and it's not working, oh,another check mark in the
subconscious of why I failed andwhy this was not meant for me
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and I was not meant for this.
We have lots of past experiencesof getting stuck and maybe you
had a past experience where yougot stuck and you were not able
in that moment, you didn't havethe tools to pull yourself out
of that stuckness.
And when I say the tools, thatcould be like even somebody else
who's a resource for you.
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You didn't have the support.
You didn't have the support.
You didn't have the nervoussystem, awareness and ability to
regulate that nervous systemback to the place, to start
moving again.
Whatever it is, whatever thatreason was, you got stuck in the
past and our subconscious isusing that evidence from the
past.
It's going oh, we've been herebefore when this happened.
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Before we just stayed stuck andwe weren't able to get
ourselves out of it, or we gotstuck in that moment and just
kind of gave up, we didn't eventry.
So our subconscious, our headvoice, thinks that we are going
to just be stuck in that placeagain, right.
And so that's part of why thatfeeling in that moment can be so
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intense because our past iscoming back again.
It's proving that story aboutourselves again, and that hurts,
that doesn't feel good.
We don't want to experiencethat again.
So that's why it's so intense.
And then we have all thesebeliefs of again, like I talked
about, I'm so stupid, I'm notgood at this, I'm never going to
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be able to learn this, like,what if this isn't meant for me?
What if I'm not good enough tobe an entrepreneur?
What if I'm not enough tofigure this out?
Those stories run on replay inour head and those actually
create our reality.
We actually manifest those.
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As a life coach, we could gothrough what is going on in our
subconscious.
Maybe that's for anotherepisode, but those are the
things of why this feeling is sointense in that moment, and so
I want to offer you a few littleshifts that we can make here.
So, first of all, I want toremind you this is a reminder
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for myself as well.
When I get in these moments, Iremind myself that technology is
logical.
It's not a person who'sthrowing a wrench into the way,
into the system, just to screwme over.
The computer does not thinkthat way.
Tech is totally logical.
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It is following a series ofinstructions that have been
programmed into it, and maybethere is a glitch.
Sometimes we do actually runinto glitches.
That happens.
That's more of like oh my gosh,I didn't set up this automation
correctly, or like whoeverdesigned this forgot a step in
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there, and we can reach out andsay, hey, this isn't working.
Can you just double check thateverything is set up correctly?
Usually, though, what ishappening is that we have missed
a step in the process, and thisis where I encourage you to get
really good and start topractice troubleshooting.
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Troubleshooting is a skill set,and I come from this from many
different angles from the techangle also, from my husband's
automotive shop.
There are very few techniciansleft who know how to actually
troubleshoot, because it is alogical process that we take our
brain through, but we have tolearn how to do that.
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It's not something that isnecessarily innate.
Some of us come by it morenaturally than others, but it's
something you can learn and youcan get better at
Troubleshooting is actually askill, and so I highly encourage
you, especially if you aresomebody who wants to do a lot
of your own tech stuff, or evenif you're like, hey, I don't
want to do a lot of it, but I dowant to understand, just in
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case I run into something.
I want to understand how thisworks.
When we start to develop ourtroubleshooting skills, it is
just realizing that we're goingto go through line by line and
we're just going to check Okay,we're going to start here at
ground one.
Do I have this one thing set upcorrectly?
So in the case of my emailaddress, I was like, okay, let
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me go double check that I didactually add my new domain to my
email host.
Is that new domain in there?
Okay, new domain is in there.
Next step is making sure thatthere actually is an email
address that has my name at thebeginning of it.
Okay, that is there, and soit's starting to go through the
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logical process of what could behappening, and I will tell you
when I did do this.
I finally hit a point of goingthrough, step by step and again,
all of the email DNS domainstuff.
Like it is a lot more techiewe're going to get to that in a
minute of what to do when it isliterally techie over your head,
when you're like I don'tunderstand computer programming
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and so like I don't even knowwhere to start with the
troubleshooting process, that isokay, I'm going to give you a
solution for that as well.
So we need to go line by lineuntil we find it, and I finally
realized that there were two DNSrecords that I had forgotten to
copy over.
When I went back through and Ijust checked my steps one by one
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by one, I caught where mymistake was and as soon as I
fixed those and DNS can take alittle bit of time it was about
10 minutes later I tried sendinga couple more test emails and
they were in my email box.
So the problem was fixed.
But I would not have foundthose if I hadn't started going
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through the troubleshootingsteps, looking line by line of
what happened.
And again, this might not be asituation where you're like, oh,
I understand email and DNSsettings and domain name stuff
well enough to be able totroubleshoot that, but whatever
else you are building, if youset up an automation, let's say,
and you think it should besending you an email in that
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automation and that email is notcoming through.
It's like, ok, well, let'sthink about some steps here.
Is it going to my spam folder?
That's always like a reallygood place to start when we're
looking at email.
Right, ok, it's not in the spamfolder.
It probably didn't send.
So let's go into the automationand see how is that automation
starting?
What is the trigger that isstarting that automation?
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Is that trigger actually beingtriggered by what I'm doing?
Am I filling out the correctform?
Am I purchasing the correctcourse, like whatever it is that
we're starting that off with?
And then you just go throughthe steps, right.
So I encourage you to start tobuild your troubleshooting
skills.
Again, it's all that logicalthinking and remembering that
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when we are dealing with tech,it's not like an opinion thing,
it is a very logical thing, andnine times out of 10, it's that
we've just missed a step alongthe way.
Sometimes I've had things whereI'm like it's not showing
correctly, like this web page Ibuilt, and I'm like, oh, because
I forgot to hit the publishbutton.
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Right, there was a step that Ijust forgot along the way and
that is okay.
So start to learn how to trackthings down one step at a time.
I will also say we should nottry to DIY every single piece of
our tech.
There is some stuff, like I said, that is over my head and I
reach out to support and I askfor the help because I don't
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have access to the backendcoding.
There is nothing I can do.
And if you're like that is sooverwhelming to me, the email
setup if that is overwhelming toyou, if you're like I literally
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don't have the knowledge baseto even begin to set this up or
troubleshoot, there is nothingwrong with calling in some help,
with finding somebody who is anexpert at that stuff who can
help you.
Please lean on the supportsystems that you have.
So that is a huge shift that,rather than believing I have to
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do this all myself, I have tofigure this out myself.
I am totally alone in thisprocess and if I get stuck, I'm
just stuck because I don't knowwhat I'm doing.
We can have a huge shift thereto leaning on the support
systems that we have, asking forhelp.
That's why I have so manyclients who come to me and
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they're like okay, I couldtotally go build a funnel, but
I'm trying to move stuff overfrom another platform and right
now it's feeling reallyoverwhelming even just to like
move my images and videos toyour CoachOS software.
Can you help me with that onestep, because once those are in
there, I'm totally good to gorunning with the funnels.
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It's just the actual moving ofall of my image and video files
that has me stuck.
Or I want to start emailmarketing and I know how to go
in and compose an email, but Ihave this email list and I'm
having a really hard timegetting it imported.
Can you help me get my emaillist imported?
Sometimes it's a really smallpiece and, yes, we probably
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could figure that piece out.
But just having somebody takecare of that one little tiny
thing can be that thing thatlaunches us off and suddenly
we're not stuck anymore.
So lean on that Ask for help.
Also, I highly encourage you,like I said, do not try to build
10 different systems at once.
That is a recipe for eitherhitting that overwhelm, crying
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on the floor or throwing yourlaptop out the window.
Even me, I do not try to build10 different things at a time.
I pick one system and I breakthat system down into all its
little tiny pieces and I buildthem one at a time.
It's a very similar thoughtprocess to that troubleshooting
as well.
Right, because it's a verylogical thing.
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And this is part of why, as avisual person, I draw all this
out.
I'm like, okay, here's the onesystem I am building.
I pick that one thing and thenI literally draw out on a piece
of paper all the differentthings that I need to build, all
the pieces of that system, howthey're connected, so that I can
make sure that things arehooked up correctly.
Then I test everything at theend to make sure it's working
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right.
So I catch the mistakes that Ihave made and inevitably, almost
every single thing I build.
When I go back through to checkif it's working, I'm like, oops
, I forgot, I forgot to makethat button go to the right
place, right, so it's just thatlogical process.
So again, building that skillof getting really good at those
logical steps that we need totake to walk ourselves through
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is huge.
Take one action at a time tomove the needle.
We don't have to have a fullyautomated business tomorrow.
In fact, you will not have afully automated business
tomorrow.
Even if you hire an expert andhire a team, they probably
cannot build a fully automatedsystem, a fully done business,
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in 24 hours.
So don't you try to do thateither.
You don't need to do that.
Take one little thing to movethat needle forward today.
Maybe that is something likeyou're like okay, I want to get
started with email marketing,but there's all these things,
all these things I have to learnand have to do and all of that.
Let's just start with importingthat contact list.
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Pick one little thing thatyou're going to get done and
take action from there, ratherthan trying to complete an
entire system all at the sametime.
Those are some really bigshifts.
Those alone will help yournervous system.
I promise if you implement thatand have those shifts of how
you're thinking about buildingand how you're thinking about
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your tech, that will help yournervous system.
However, if you find yourself inthat place of wanting to throw
the laptop or crawl on the floorand cry, it is okay.
We can do some nervous systemregulation.
We can take some deep breathseven just standing up from your
laptop.
So if you're in like I want tocurl up and cry on the floor
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mode, go get some physicalactivity Not saying you have to
do a full workout.
Go, walk around your house forfive minutes.
Just shake it out, dance it out, put on your favorite song and
sing.
Just get moving again, get yourbody moving again.
And if you're in that placewhere you're like I am literally
throwing this thing across theroom, let's get up.
(27:15):
Let's remove ourself from thesituation.
Maybe you walk outside withsome bare feet on the grass to
help ground yourself, take somedeep breaths, bring it down
right.
We're going to bring thatnervous system level down and
then, when we're calm again andwe're not in that fight or
flight mode, we can go back andsit at our computer.
(27:37):
But it's really important toget back into our body before we
do that.
So I definitely suggest justtrying those things.
If you enjoyed this episode andyou want some more.
If you're like I would love toknow how to break these systems
down.
I would love to know even whatsystems to start with.
(27:59):
I would love to have somebodyin my corner walking me through
all of this, and I woulddefinitely love to know some
things to do when my nervoussystem is totally hijacked and
out of whack, in addition tobecause there's a million more
things we can do to regulate ournervous system.
Besides going and getting alittle bit of motion, or like
(28:19):
going outside taking some deepbreaths, we have a whole host of
things that we can do.
I just don't have time in thisepisode to dive into every
single one of them.
If you are curious, if you arewanting that skill set, that
toolbox to use for bothregulating your nervous system
(28:39):
and for helping you organizeyour builds and figure out what
systems to build, in what order,what the pieces may be, I am so
excited that my System Seerplaybook is going to be ready
very soon and it is actually inpre-sale right now.
If you're listening to thisepisode when it is released, you
can go pre-order it right nowhave a huge savings, by the way
(29:04):
so run and do that.
Or if you're listening to thisepisode later, about a month
after it's released, theplaybook is ready and you can go
get your hands on it right now.
It literally has a checklistfor you to pinpoint where you
need to focus or want to focusin your business.
It then has a 30-day blueprintthat will help you customize
(29:26):
what systems to focus on, inwhat order, and how to go about
making sure that you arebuilding them, setting aside the
time, but not hitting thatoverwhelm.
It has all the nervous systemregulation to go along with that
.
So when you do get into thosebuilds and you notice maybe your
heart rate's coming up, maybethat frustration is building,
maybe you are going catatonic onthe floor.
(29:48):
It will have all the tools thatyou need to help bring yourself
back so that you can be makingforward progress in your
business.
So you can use this by usingthe 30 day blueprint, which is
customized to you, or you canalso go through it front to back
so it is fully digital.
Don't have to like buy anythingand wait for it to come in the
(30:09):
mail.
I'm super, super excited forthis for you.
So if you're wanting a littlebit of extra support, definitely
go check that out.
You can go to my website and,as you know, it is now the
system.
Seercom.
Avmcoachingcom will also worktoo.
I did not turn that off, so goto whichever one you want and
(30:32):
check it out.
I am so excited to help youstart to get some of these
systems built in a way that isnot taking you into that
overwhelm, where tech is notturning on you, where you don't
just want to burn it all down,where you're excited to actually
go implement and go get thesesystems built for you so that
you can support yourself, sothat you can have more capacity,
(30:54):
so that you can literallymagnify your energy and your
time.
You're gonna get so much energyand time back by having these
business systems built and thatstructure in place.
Things are gonna feel a lotless chaotic and you're going to
be able to focus on the thingsthat you love doing the most in
(31:14):
your business, like actuallyhelping our clients right.
So I hope you enjoyed thisepisode.
I would love to hear what partof it spoke the most to you.
Drop it in the comments and Iwill see you on the next episode
of Effortlessly Productive.
Have a beautiful rest of yourday.
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