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SPEAKER_01 (00:01):
All right.
We're here with another episodeof El Paso Local Area Business
Talk.
We're here with Attorney RobertNavar of the El Paso Traffic
Ticket Firm.
Attorney Robert Navar.
How are you doing, Robert?
SPEAKER_00 (00:13):
Good, good.
Thank you.
Nice to see you again, David.
Same here.
Same here.
Thanks, man.
SPEAKER_01 (00:17):
So how's the ticket
business going?
SPEAKER_00 (00:20):
It's great.
We're number one in the city,and I think that's the reason
for it is we get a lot of repeatclients and a lot of referrals.
And one of the things I strivemyself on is making sure to
provide the best legal defensethat I can for my clients.
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And we get a lot of dismissals.
So getting a lot of dismissalshelps with the referrals and
it's been going very good, verystrong.
SPEAKER_01 (00:53):
Cool.
Yeah.
When I looked you up, I noticedhow much further you guys have
gone up on the rankings and youguys are like a lot of things
they say is the best trafficticket lawyer, go to him.
I'll take care of you and stufflike that.
So you guys really have put on areally built your presence here
in El Paso.
So that's pretty cool.
SPEAKER_00 (01:10):
And I think one of
the things that helps is that
unlike a lot of attorneys whereyou'll hire them to represent
you, they often times will havesome other lawyer handle it
because they're so busy withtheir workload.
They, handle other cases.
My practice is focused 100% ontraffic tickets.
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I attend all my court hearingspersonally because I don't feel
comfortable having anotherlawyer who maybe is not as
experienced as I am, is gonnamiss things.
And so I take great pride inmaking sure that I handle
everything from the pleadings toactual appearing in court.
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I personally appear on all myclients' cases.
SPEAKER_01 (01:55):
That's nice.
That's good to know.
So this is kind of just mostlywhat you do.
So let me ask you a question.
As a ticket lawyer, I'm going tocome to your office or call you
guys or hire online.
I'm going to go ahead and hireyou guys for my citation.
What should I expect from thatpoint on after I hire your firm?
SPEAKER_00 (02:14):
Well, we do all the
paperwork.
I make the court appearances andOne of the benefits of hiring my
office is once you contact myoffice, we get all your
information.
You don't need to appear.
You don't need to worry about itanymore at that point.
Just kind of forget it.
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Trust that we're going to handleeverything from doing the
pretrial hearings to filingmotions for discovery.
Those discovery entail lookingat video, dash cam footage from
the officer, body cam footagefrom the officer, reviewing the
paperwork, the formal complaint,which is a charging instrument.
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I handle all that.
So you don't need to worry aboutthat.
Let me take care of all that foryou, getting all the discovery.
We do all that.
And normally the process takesabout a couple of months.
And that's just because thecourts are so backed up that
they have to stagger thesecases.
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And sometimes There are delays,but trust that my office will
get in touch with all theclients and keep them apprised
of what the status of their caseis.
And we will stay on top of it.
We will let you know if there isany updates.
If we need any information fromthe client, we'll contact them.
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But otherwise, just rest assuredthat I've got it handled from
the point that you contact usand officially hire us.
You don't need to worry aboutit.
You don't need to do anythingunless...
you hear from our office.
But otherwise, we will keep youupdated when something
significant happens in the case.
But of course, my clients arealways welcome to call if they
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want to get any status updates.
We're happy to provide that tothe clients.
SPEAKER_01 (04:09):
That sounds pretty
convenient.
One of the things I was going toask you, so what can I expect?
Full dismissal?
Is that guaranteed?
What are some of the outcomesthat happen once we hire you?
SPEAKER_00 (04:25):
As lawyers, we're
prohibited ethically from the
state bar from ever guaranteeingany outcome to our clients.
But having said that, theguarantee that I can make is
that I will give 100% of myattention to each and every one
of my clients' cases.
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Like I said, a lot of lawyers...
have other areas of practicethat they focus on.
That's not the case with me.
I dedicate 100% of my time to myclients cases and that I can
guarantee to my clients is thatI'm going to look at each and
every one of your cases.
I'm going to look for anyviolations of the law with
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regards to the complaintsitself, the charging
instruments, oftentimes, Youhave people that don't spend a
lot of time on them.
The courts, the officers, theydon't dedicate their time to it.
I dedicate 100% of my timemaking sure that everything is
accurate and complete.
And if it's not, we're going tochallenge them in court.
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So that guarantee I can give tomy clients is that I will give
100% of my focus to each andevery one of their cases.
And we get a lot of dismissalsbecause of my attention to every
detail.
SPEAKER_01 (05:42):
Okay.
So dismissal is very likely, butnot guaranteed.
What would it be another outcomelike?
SPEAKER_00 (05:49):
Well, another
outcome is in the alternative,
if I can't get your casedismissed, I'm going to make
sure that it doesn't go on yourpermanent record.
That's very important to me isthat I don't want a misdemeanor
offense to prevent one of myclients from obtaining lawful
employment.
A lot of times, especially ifyou want to work for the
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government, you wanna make surethat you have a clean, perfect
record.
I can guarantee you that I willmake sure that if I can't win
the case in court, the worstcase scenario is that it'll be a
situation to where the clientmay have to pay some court fees,
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may have to take a class, butit's not gonna be on the record.
The case will get dismissed.
Awesome.
SPEAKER_01 (06:39):
Well, that's pretty
good.
So you guys do traffic tickets.
Do you do like all classymisdemeanors or just traffic
tickets?
SPEAKER_00 (06:44):
We do all kinds of
classy misdemeanors.
Just the other day, I had a caseinvolving a disorderly conduct
case.
That's basically where you getinto possibly a physical
altercation with somebody else.
Oftentimes, police officers willjust issue it as a classy
misdemeanor, disorderly conduct.
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or let's say you cause damage,minor damage to somebody's
property.
They'll charge you with what'scalled criminal mischief.
Or let's say you're at a bar andan altercation happens.
You get into a physical fightwith somebody there.
A lot of times you'll see getcharged Class C public
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intoxication.
Now, Class C intoxication a lotof people think, okay, it's not
that serious if I just go to thecourt, handle it myself, just
pay a fine.
Yeah, you can do that, but Idon't recommend that because you
don't want those types ofoffenses to be on your record.
And if you hire my office, Iwill make sure that at the very
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worst case scenario, assuming Ican't fight the case in court.
I can't get it dismissed becauseof a technicality or because a
witness recants or there's alack of cooperation by other
witnesses.
If I can't get it dismissed atthe trial, I will at the very
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least get it to where theclients, it's not going to be on
their permanent record.
Because like I said, if youapply for a job, especially with
a government They are not goingto, it's likely that they won't
want to hire somebody who has arecord for disorderly conduct or
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let's say a public intox.
They might unfairly assume,okay, this person may be a
drinker.
We may have problems withliability down the road if they
get into a fight with somebodyelse.
They could sue the company,especially if they're on duty
for us.
They may not want to take thatchance.
And so it's highly recommendedthat you contact my office so
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that those types of offenseswon't be on your record.
SPEAKER_01 (09:05):
Interesting.
Yeah, that's pretty cool.
So that's good to know because Iremember I got an animal
vaccination.
You covered things like that aswell.
Sure,
SPEAKER_00 (09:14):
sure.
We do those all the time.
Or if you don't confine youranimal, let's say, One of your
neighbor calls because your dogis jumping over the fence and
going to the neighbor'sproperty.
Oftentimes they'll call thepolice.
They'll send their specializedunit that handles with strictly
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dogs, cats.
They'll find out who the owneris.
And a lot of times they'll citethe owner.
They'll check.
They have microchip readers.
They'll see if the animaldoesn't have a microchip.
which is also a city ordinancethat you have to have all your
animals microchipped.
Oftentimes, unfortunately, a lotof people don't have that, the
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means or financial means to dothat.
And so they'll get a citationfor that.
And so we get those all the timeand I fight them as well.
I look for technicalities in thecase.
I look for inconsistencies byany of the witnesses.
I demand strict proof from theofficers.
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I'm going to ask for discovery.
I'm going to ask for videocamera footage.
These officers have what'scalled body cameras.
Actually, they wear them ontheir suits.
I'm going to ask for that.
I'm going to ask for audio aswell.
They have recording devices thatall the officers wear.
I'm going to listen to thosebecause I want to see if what
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the officer puts in his reportis the same as what actually
happened at the time of theincident.
If there's inconsistencies inthat, I can question the
officers and challenge them onthat.
So we do those quite often,David.
SPEAKER_01 (10:53):
It's nice to know.
You know, I also notice, itlooks like, I think you've been
doing this before, but I noticedyou kind of updated your
website.
You do occupational licenses,right?
SPEAKER_00 (11:03):
Yes, we do.
And...
Those are actually prettycommon, even though the state of
Texas stopped applyingsurcharges.
They used to have a point systemwhere people were getting their
licenses automatically suspendedafter a certain amount of
tickets.
The state of Texas is stillsuspending licenses, however.
Let's say you get a citation andyou're found guilty for not
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having motor vehicle insurance.
The DPS will automaticallysuspend your license for that.
And What happens is if you tryto get a job with an employer,
they're going to want to makesure and verify that you have
the ability to drive.
You may be employed in asituation where you don't
actually have to drive for yourcompany that you may be working
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for, but at the very least,they're going to expect you to
have some sort of valid licensethat allows you to drive to
their place of business.
And so you've got to make surethat you have at the very least
what's called an occupationallicense, which lets whoever owns
an occupational license, itgives them the ability to drive
legally for purposes of work,for school, if you're attending
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an undergraduate program orgraduate program for whatever
reasons, or if you need to drivea car to take somebody who's
sick for medical treatment, Theoccupational license allows you
to do that legally becauseotherwise if you get pulled over
and let's say you're drivingwith a suspended license, the
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officer can technically arrestyou.
Sometimes what I've seen them dois they will prohibit you from
driving the vehicle at thatpoint.
So they'll either make you callsomebody who's a valid licensed
driver to come and retrieve yourvehicle for you or you'll have
to call a tow truck and you'relooking at hundreds of dollars
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in expense having to maybepossibly bother a loved one uh
and you'll be basically strandedon the street the officer won't
let you drive anymore at thatpoint so uh it's it's essential
that you have some ability toprove to the officer that you're
legally entitled to drive
SPEAKER_01 (13:17):
well that's pretty
interesting so do you get a lot
of those here in el paso as anoccupational driver as
occupational drivers Licensedlawyer, do you see a pretty high
number?
Yeah, we do.
What are the reasons for theirlicense of it?
What's the most common reasonfor a license suspension that
you see?
SPEAKER_00 (13:34):
Well, the two most
common reasons that I see is
here in El Paso, unfortunately,there's a lot of people who
drive while intoxicated.
And so what happens is if let'ssay you decide to blow a
breathalyzer, you fail what'scalled a standard field sobriety
test, and you're charged withdriving while intoxicated, the
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DPS will automatically suspendyour license for a year.
Even though you haven't actuallybeen convicted of the driving
while intoxicated, your licenseautomatically gets suspended.
And so what I can do for you isI can get you an occupational
license in the meantime whileyour case is still pending, so
that uh you're allowed to stilllegally drive to work um you
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know take care of whateveressential needs you need to do
and be legal on the street whileyou're fighting this driving
while intoxicated charge gotchaokay and the other reason uh
that we see a lot of people gettheir licenses suspended for is
uh they still have surchargesthat they owe to the state and
so what the state does in orderto recoup any monies that are
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still owed, they will go aheadand also suspend your license.
They'll suspend your license ifyou have multiple citations.
They'll suspend your license ifyou get convicted for driving
without insurance on your car.
It can trigger a licensesuspension.
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And I can get you anoccupational license for those
offenses as well.
We can get them for you prettyquickly.
I would say on average, from thetime that you contact and hire
my office, we can get you anoccupational license within two
to three business days.
SPEAKER_01 (15:24):
That's pretty good.
Well, Robert, thank you so much.
This has been very informative.
This is El Paso Traffic TicketFirm, attorney Robert Navar,
located at 11860 Vista del Sol,El Paso, Texas, 79936.
The phone number is915-503-1600.
And the website isElPasoTrafficTicket.com.
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Give them a visit if you needhelp with a traffic ticket, a
warrant, or an occupationaldriver's license.
Robert, thank you.
Thank you very much.
Appreciate it.
Thank you.