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SPEAKER_01 (00:00):
Okay, we're here
with another episode of El Paso
Local Area Business Talk.
We're with Mr.
Navar, the one and only trafficticket attorney here in El Paso,
Texas.
Robert, how are you?
Good.
Thank you, David.
Nice to see you again.
Same here, man.
Thank you.
So, you know, I noticed that youstarted doing occupational
licenses since the last time wetalked.
Can you just give us a littlebit of information about what it
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is that you do?
What kind of client comes toyou?
First, kind of describe what anoccupational driver's license
is.
And then what kind of peopleneed something like that?
SPEAKER_00 (00:33):
Okay, well, what an
occupational license is, is it's
a, essentially, it's like atemporary driver's license that
allows you to drive for a periodof up to eight hours per day for
purposes of work or school or,you know, to carry any essential
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needs like getting groceries ortaking somebody who's sick to
the hospital or for medicalcare, any kind of thing that
would be deemed essential.
And it happens, unfortunately,quite often because people get
their license suspended forvarious reasons.
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Very commonly here in El Paso,unfortunately, if you get
charged with driving whileintoxicated, it's an automatic
one-year suspension.
and or if let's say you have alot of surcharges the state has
your license suspended becauseyou owe a lot of fees and you
can't afford it and or let's sayyou moved from another state
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where they have your licensesuspended for maybe some of the
other reasons and so the stateof Texas won't let you get your
license reinstated until youfigure out what's going on with
your other home state and howyou can get your license active
again.
Or if you just rack up a bunchof tickets, or let's say you get
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charged and were found guiltyfor operating a motor vehicle
without financialresponsibility, that'll trigger
a suspension.
And so what happens is once youget your license suspended, then
legally you're not allowed todrive.
And that can create a lot ofproblems for you if you get
pulled over for a trafficviolation.
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The officer will ask you foryour driver's license.
And you'll have to say, I don'thave one.
And he'll ask you for your name,date of birth.
He'll run it in his computersystem.
And he'll come back and showthat it's been suspended.
And he'll give you a citationfor that more times than not.
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If the officer wants to, hecould technically arrest you for
driving the vehicle with asuspended license, or he could
require you to have somebody whohas a valid license come and
pick up the vehicle.
He'll prevent you from leavingthe scene driving, and so that
could create a lot of problemsfor you.
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If you don't have anybody, thatcan immediately come by and take
your vehicle and drive you towherever you need to go.
You'll be stuck stranded there.
The officer is not going to letyou leave.
Or you'll have to call a towtruck.
So you're looking at a lot ofexpense and burden on somebody
else to help you out.
So it's not recommended to bedriving if your license has been
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suspended.
Gotcha.
Okay, cool.
SPEAKER_01 (03:36):
So how long does an
occupational driver's license
last?
SPEAKER_00 (03:40):
So the according to
the law it's uh it's for a
period of two years because thestate of texas figures that two
years is enough for you to getwhatever you need worked out uh
but sometimes you can't uh andso if you're approaching let's
say i got you an occupationallicense and the two-year is
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coming up call our office and ican get it extended for an extra
year And then let's say youstill have that problem after
three years, call our office.
I can get it extended foranother year.
I can essentially get itextended because of my working
relationships with the judges.
I know who all the judges are.
I can talk to them and explainthe situation.
I can keep getting you a yearafter that extension.
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You just need to make sure andkeep in contact with my office
and let us know what the reasonis.
If you still need it, we'll getit extended for you.
So I can potentially get itextended indefinitely if
necessary
SPEAKER_01 (04:38):
yeah and so you guys
um really your bread and butter
is doing basically traffictickets and warrants right
occupational license issomething
SPEAKER_00 (04:47):
yeah that's that our
100 of our focus is on uh
fighting traffic tickets uh orfighting any type of classy
misdemeanor that you'll get andum a part of that I dedicated,
started doing research andinvestigating the occupational
license aspect of it becauseoftentimes traffic tickets will
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lead to license suspensions oryou may have already had your
license suspended.
And so we dedicated a portion ofour practice to focus on
occupational licenses becausethat's something that our
clients are continually havingthat problem affecting them.
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And so we focus on that as well.
SPEAKER_01 (05:36):
Okay, cool.
So let's just talk about traffictickets.
People just get tickets here allthe time for stop sign
violations, speeding, noinsurance, registration.
I see it all the time when I'mjust driving on the west side or
375 on the loop.
I see people being pulled overall the time.
So let's say I get a trafficticket.
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Officer gives me a ticket.
I drive home.
uh what would you recommend i donext
SPEAKER_00 (06:07):
okay if if uh you
got a ticket and uh normally on
the citation i'll give you aperiod between 10 to 10 to 20
days to go down to the court andentering a plea uh you know and
uh it's very time constrainedand so if you don't do it within
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that certain period of time thecourt will issue a warrant for
your arrest and you certainlydon't want that to happen.
What I recommend you do is youcall my office right after you
got your citation.
We will charge you a verynominal amount or represent you.
We've dedicated our servers, ourprocess to where you don't even
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have to physically go into myoffice.
You can do everything by thephone.
We have apps that you can goonto that you can put in all
your information.
Somebody from my office willcontact you.
We can take care of everythingover the phone so you don't have
to burden yourself by travelingto an office or you can do it
all at the comfort of your homeor your office, wherever you're
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at.
And we'll file all thepaperwork.
We'll do everything that needsto be done.
Normally what we file is what'scalled an entry of appearance.
I'll let the court know that...
I'm now representing you.
You're my client.
To cease any and all furthercommunication with my client, I
will send in some pretrialdiscovery motions because I
want, whenever I get a clientthat's entrusting their ticket
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to me, I want to make sure Ihave all the information that I
need to adequately representthem.
So I'll take care of all thatprocess.
I'll attend all the courthearings.
I don't need my clients to worryabout showing up to court.
In fact, it's better if theydon't show up to court.
because I don't want the officerto remember them or say, oh
yeah, I remember you.
It's better that they just don'tshow up and let me handle it and
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trust that I can take care ofit.
From the moment you hire myoffice, we take care of
everything.
If we need any information fromour clients, we'll contact them.
My clients are always welcome tocall our office with any case
updates.
This process, unfortunately, cantake several months to get it
resolved.
Right.
that doesn't mean that's a badthing.
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It just means that the courtsare backed up.
And generally as a general ruleis the longer the citation is
pending, also the greaterlikelihood is that I can also
get it dismissed that way aswell because the officer's mind
isn't as fresh, those sorts ofthings.
And one of the easiest ways toget it is if the officer doesn't
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recall because it's been a year,that your case has been pending.
So
SPEAKER_01 (08:49):
that's one of the
tactics you use, right?
You kind of drag it out.
So the longer it takes, thebetter.
SPEAKER_00 (08:53):
Yeah, sometimes we
will.
And so oftentimes what willhappen is we'll have what's
called the initial pretrialhearing before the court, the
judge, the prosecutor, theofficer.
And if the officer rememberseverything and it looks like all
the paperwork is correct,there's no deficiencies, There's
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certain requirements that thelaw requires that the paperwork
have.
I look for those errors, thosetechnicalities, so I can get it
dismissed.
If everything, assumingeverything is correct, the
officer adequately recalls afterI question him, I've looked at
some of the evidence in the caseto corroborate what the officer
is claiming, I will go ahead andask for a reset.
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And the reason why I do that isbecause I want to delay the
process.
Sometimes it's beneficial todelay it.
because there's a chance thatthe next time around, next time
we have court, the officer maynot show up or he may not
remember because it gets pushedback several months out.
And so that's an added benefitto the client by delaying it.
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Now, there are some certainsituations where maybe you don't
want it to be delayed.
And so call our office andexplain to us that you want to
try to get resolution on thiscase as quickly as possible.
And we can do that as well.
SPEAKER_01 (10:15):
Yeah, so something,
for example, maybe like a Fort
Bliss soldier is going to go getdeployed.
They want to take care of it asquickly
SPEAKER_00 (10:22):
as possible.
Right, right.
If you're active military orlet's say you're active
government and you don't wantyour employer to maybe do a
routine background check becausegovernment employees sometimes
are a little more scrutinized.
And so if they have this ontheir record, it could create
problems.
So if you let our office knowthat, Time is of the essence.
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You need to get this resolvedfairly quickly.
What I can do is I can file amotion with the court to set it
for a quicker hearing.
SPEAKER_02 (10:52):
And
SPEAKER_00 (10:54):
then I will do
everything I can to get the case
dismissed because of atechnicality or if I'm
cross-examining the officer,making sure that he adequately
recalls and can identify myclient, can identify where it
happened, can verify that whatthe speed that he's alleging is
accurate and true and correct,all those things.
The worst case scenario is,David is that we will, I will
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work out a deal with aprosecutor to where I will get
the fine reduced to almostnothing.
And I will get it to where theclient's not going to be
affected.
It's not going to go on theirpermanent record.
So if you're worried about anemployer, especially the
government doing a backgroundcheck, I will make sure that the
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case gets dismissed.
Once you comply with whateverdeal that I'm able to work out
with prosecutor.
SPEAKER_01 (11:45):
Nice.
That's awesome, man.
That's awesome.
Okay.
So I do know people don't, theyforget about their tickets.
They just put in the glove boxand just get distracted or
whatever.
And they get warrants.
And so, you know, if you get awarrant, say from the El Paso
municipal court or some of theseCounty courts, we call you, what
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are you going to do?
What can you do for your client?
SPEAKER_00 (12:12):
Well, yeah, if they
have an active warrant and a lot
of times they'll know thatbecause they'll get notices.
What the city's done is they'vehired an outside attorney firm
to start collecting on thesewarrant fees.
And these warrant fees can beanywhere from$250 to$500.
And they can be much more.
They can be in the thousands ofdollars, especially at multiple
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tickets, multiple warrants.
Right.
What you do is, The mostimportant thing is call my
office.
A lot of times people think, ohmy gosh, I've got to pay this.
And so they'll go down andthey'll scrounge for the money.
They'll take out of theirsavings.
They'll borrow money becausethey don't want to get arrested.
And we certainly don't wantthat.
But I strongly urge them to notdo that because I can get your
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warrants lifted without youhaving to pay a single dime.
You call my office, tell us whatwe have.
We'll pull up your record, findout how many active warrants you
have.
I can file motions to recallthose warrants.
And what I do is I post a suretybond on my behalf.
Basically, it's a guarantee tothe court that I'm now
representing you and I'm goingto appear on your behalf.
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Because essentially what thecourt wants to ensure is that
you're going to be present atyour next court hearing.
And normally they guarantee thatby what's called a cash bond.
Well, I post a form of that bondin what's called an attorney
surety bond.
We will post those for you soyou don't have to pay it.
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And I will get those warrantsrecalled, and I can usually get
them recalled pretty quickly.
Especially at warrants, time isimportant because you don't want
to run the risk that you'regoing to get pulled over again
the next day and the cop canpotentially arrest you because
you have an active warrant.
So we move on those prettyquickly.
So my suggestion is call ouroffice as soon as possible and
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we'll work with you so that Ican file the necessary paperwork
so that you have the peace ofmind that the next time if it
occurs that you get pulled over,you're not gonna run the risk of
having an arrest.
or having what oftentimes whatthe city's doing to generate
monies is they'll do what'scalled warrant roundup.
They'll send officers to yourwork, your place of employment,
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your home, knocking on yourdoor, threatening to arrest you.
Nobody wants that.
Nobody wants to see an officershowing up at their place of
business.
And then you have everybodyquestioning, well, what's going
on?
Looking at you, you don't wantthat.
So call my office so that we canavoid that from happening.
SPEAKER_01 (14:46):
Okay, well, that's
good to know.
Well, Robert, thank you so much.
This is Robert Navarro, the lawoffice of Robert Andrew Navarro
Esquire.
He's located at 1-2-3-2-4,Tierra Arroyo, El Paso, Texas,
79938.
The phone number is going to be915-613-3993.
And the website is going to betrafficticketlawyerelpaso.com.
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So if you're a student at UTEPor a community college or you
get into any kind of...
driving trouble, give thisoffice a call.
They'll be happy to help youout.
I've met the staff.
They're super friendly, supernice.
Robert, thank you so much, man.
Appreciate it.
Have a good day.
You too.