September 20, 2024 • 37 mins
What if you could unlock profound physical and emotional healing just by changing the way you breathe? In our latest episode of the Electric Spirit Podcast, we welcome the distinguished Kurtis Lee Thomas, an expert in corporate mindfulness and a celebrated keynote speaker, to explore the transformative power of breathwork detox. Kurtis shares his personal journey, emphasizing the importance of deep diaphragmatic breathing as an antidote to the shallow breathing many of us fall into. With immediate and undeniable benefits, breathwork detox emerges as a more accessible practice than yoga and meditation, offering a powerful tool for stress reduction and overall well-being.
Kurtis reveals how mastering breathwork techniques has not only helped him overcome severe anxiety but also led to a career as a certified life coach, hypnotherapist, NLP practitioner, and Reiki master. His compelling success stories, including women achieving pregnancy through breathwork, highlight the profound physical and emotional healing that can occur when we release energetic blockages. These practices, outlined in Kurtis' book on anxiety relief, have touched lives worldwide, including those of notable celebrities, underscoring the significance of holistic self-care.
Additionally, Kurtis delves into the intricate relationship between breathwork, trauma healing, and gut health. He recounts his own experiences with chronic stomach issues and how a Taoist tummy massage revealed crucial insights into the body's "wind gate." Through breathwork, Kurtis found remarkable improvements in both his physical and mental health. Our conversation concludes with a celebration of our thriving podcast community and heartfelt gratitude to Kurtis for his invaluable contributions. We invite you to tune in and be inspired by Kurtis's journey and transformative insights.
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Jamie Lynn (00:01):
Welcome to the Electric Spirit Podcast where we
dive into all thingsmetaphysical and fun.
Here's your host, psychicMedium, Jamie Lynn.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (00:17):
Welcome to the Electric Spirit Podcast with
your host, psychic Medium JamieLynn.
Today, we're thrilled to haveKurtis Lee Thomas, a renowned
keynote speaker and one of theforemost corporate mindfulness
trainers in the world.
With a wealth of experienceworking with Ivy League colleges
and Fortune 500 companies likeNike, as well as prestigious
(00:39):
venues like MGM Grand.
Curtis is dedicated toawakening the best in
individuals and enhancingcreativity and productivity in
the workplace.
His mantra first you must learn, then you should earn, so
eventually you can returnreflects his commitment to
transformative growth.
A certified life coach master,breathwork teacher and energy
(01:04):
healer, curtis has developedpowerful tools to facilitate
change in people's lives.
After a profound spiritualawakening in 2011, he felt
compelled to share his insightsand abilities with the world.
Join us as we dive into theworld of breathwork, detox,
stress management and theessence of healing with Curtis.
(01:25):
You can find Curtis on hiswebsite, curtisleethomascom, or
on Instagram at manfromthestars.
Jamie Lynn (01:36):
Hi Curtis, Welcome to the Electric Spirit Podcast.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (01:39):
Hey, jamie, thank you for having me.
Jamie Lynn (01:41):
Thank you.
Can you tell the audience alittle bit about yourself?
Kurtis Lee Thomas (01:44):
Jamie, thank you for having me.
Thank you, can you tell theaudience a little bit about
yourself?
Oh gosh, okay, well, my name isCurtis Lee Thomas and I go by
manfromthestars on Instagram andmy account is it's very
diversified into spiritualawakening, helping people on
their path of spiritualawakening, which can be brutal
(02:06):
at times.
It's beautiful and brutal atthe same time.
Right, and I'm a breathworkmaster trainer, so I have a lot
of time aside training people inmy modality, breathwork detox,
and I also do corporatemindfulness.
So I brought breathwork intosome big organizations like Nike
and NASA and the Capital Group.
So you know that's fun becauseI feel brought breathwork into
some big organizations like Nikeand NASA and the Capital Group.
So that's fun because I feellike breathwork's the Trojan
(02:29):
horse to the work that we do andit's very accepted because
you're just breathing air.
Quotes.
Jamie Lynn (02:36):
Yeah, exactly.
No, that's great.
And what is breathwork detoxexactly?
And maybe walk me through theprocess of what happens during
and after?
Kurtis Lee Thomas (02:46):
Sure.
So breathwork detox is themodality that I created.
It's based upon deep,diaphragmatic breathing, so deep
down into the abdomen where alot of us we don't breathe.
So if you've got a room full ofpeople and said everyone on the
count of three, take a deepbreath, they take a deep breath.
They all breathe in their chestand their clavicles and their
shoulders and they're notbreathing in their belly and
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that's called paradoxicalbreathing.
And if you look at a fish or adog or a baby, if you watch a
baby breathe, when a baby takesa breath, their belly moves.
When we take a breath, ourbelly doesn't move and that's
because of one main reason ofsomething that happened to us
called life, and you know we geta lot of stress and things
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stuck in our diaphragm and it'sreally hard to breathe down into
that area.
But it's a very important areawhich I hope we can get into in
later times.
And this is done lying down onyour back, so you're not upright
in a seated position likemeditation, which makes it like
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there's no barrier to entry withbreathwork, and that's why I
love it.
There's a lot of barriers toentry with yoga and even
meditation that we can get into.
Well, with breathwork, you justlie down on your back, you
breathe and you're going to havean experience.
And, unlike yoga and meditation, the results of breathwork are
immediate and undeniable fromone session, and I think that's
why so many people are flockingto this modality, not just
(04:13):
because the studies are comingout.
We have breathwork searcheshave spiked over 400% and you
know the world is stressed rightnow.
So people are looking for, youknow, modality.
Harvard did a study and theysaid 60 to 90% of all doctor's
visits are stress related.
So you know they're looking forthis modality that moves the
needle right, something thatactually works.
(04:33):
And you know people are gettingresults and that's why I
dedicated, you know, my life, mycareer to bringing this to the
world my career to bringing thisto the world.
Jamie Lynn (04:48):
Wow, that's amazing, that's great.
I love it.
Thank you, yeah, and how isthis different from, let's say,
yoga or meditation?
Kurtis Lee Thomas (04:53):
Okay, great, it's a great segue into that.
You know, let's talk about thebarriers to entry.
Well, when it comes to yoga,first of all, yoga without
conscious breathing is juststretching, that's all it is.
So you have to bring the breathinto the yoga poses.
Of all, yoga without consciousbreathing is just stretching,
that's all it is.
So you have to bring the breathinto the yoga poses which
actually, you know, make themwork.
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And with yoga, man, it takes alot, a lot of time for those
results to compound right andfor you to really see the
results of yoga.
And with breathwork, it'simmediate and undeniable.
And you can be, you know, 400pounds lie down on your back,
fully clothed.
You don't have to go into ayoga room wearing a leotard and
feel comfortable.
You know bending in certainpositions in front of people.
So it's super simple and that'swhy people and even companies
(05:35):
are adopting to it.
Now, if you look at meditation,I believe meditation is more of
an advanced practice, becauseif you get somebody who's
stressed out which is the worldto sit down, sit still and don't
think a thought for the next 20minutes, they're going to get
more stressed out.
And what I've noticed is thatpeople who implement a
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breathwork practice, not only isthe meditations they do more
effective, it's actually moreenjoyable.
So I'll tell people toimplement a breathwork practice
first.
Specifically, a deep,diaphragmatic breathing
technique Doesn't have to bebreathwork detox, but that's
what we focused on, because if Iwas to give you the comparison,
it'd be like cleaning a dirtycar.
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If you're going to clean yourcar, you wouldn't clean your car
with a toothbrush, right, you'dwant to clean your car with a
power washer.
Clean your car with atoothbrush right, you'd want to
clean your car with a powerwasher.
And that's what breathwork is.
It's the deep clean for thebody and it's the power washer.
And then, once your car isclean, you can use the
toothbrush as maintenance to getin those little crevices.
(06:37):
And I think it's the comparisonbetween, you know, breathwork
and meditation.
I do yoga, I meditate, but it'snot as effective and noticeable
of the results than breathwork.
But when you put them alltogether it's beautiful.
But I'd say one is the deep andthe other is the maintenance.
Jamie Lynn (06:55):
Oh, that's great.
I love that.
And why do so many people cryduring your breathwork sessions?
Kurtis Lee Thomas (07:04):
during your breathwork sessions.
Yeah, you know, it's sointeresting because I realized
that, working with men, it's alot harder for them to cry.
And because we hold a lot ofstuff in.
We might not want to bevulnerable because it might show
our weakness.
And they actually say in theEastern civilization that the
reason why women live longer isbecause they allow themselves to
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cry.
They allow themselves toprocess their emotions.
And the thing about crying isall it is is a big energetic
release and if you keep thatstuff in, it wreaks havoc on
your nervous system and it caneven cause dis-ease.
And I think that's a big deal.
They did a study with Dr Suzukifrom British Columbia he's the
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head of the genetics departmentand they took the condensed
molecules from the energy ofanger for just one hour and
within just one hour thosecondensed molecules had enough
toxicity to kill 80 guinea pigs.
Jamie Lynn (08:01):
Oh, my goodness.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (08:02):
And you know that's the stuff that we keep in
and why so many people are sickand we don't realize it.
You know and I look at someonelike Steve Jobs you know he had
all the money in the world, thebest doctors, best technology,
best everything, and he stilldied.
He couldn't save himself.
Jamie Lynn (08:19):
And.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (08:19):
I tell people is you know, it doesn't matter
how many millions or billionsare in your bank account, how
many green juices you drink, ifyou are holding on to the toxic
energies of guilt, shame, regret, anger.
It's a death wish.
Jamie Lynn (08:34):
Exactly, yeah, I have his daughter wrote a book
about him and I don't think theyhad a good relationship.
I think he didn't talk to herfor a while or it was kind of
non-existent, so maybe that'ssomething he held in too.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (08:47):
Oh yeah, that's I mean as a father,
single father.
My daughter's been living withme since she was five years old.
It's the best thing that everhappened to me.
I can't imagine having arelationship with my own flesh
and blood.
Jamie Lynn (08:58):
Yeah, right.
And how important is it reallythat we manage our stress and
anxiety in the workplace and athome?
Kurtis Lee Thomas (09:07):
Oh gosh.
I think that's balance is key.
I think we're all striving forbalance and, depending on what
you do like I've been anentrepreneur my entire life my
life isn't always balanced.
This insatiable appetite forknowledge and learning something
(09:34):
new, you know, constantlyfinding balance, but then also
the act of finding balance inyour life.
You're in balance and I thinkthat's just a part of life.
Right, the pendulum swings inboth directions and you know
you'll finding knowing thyself.
I think that is the key inknowing how you operate, because
sometimes I hate to say this,but I work good under pressure
(09:56):
and I don't want to admit that,but it's what allows me to get
things done, and that doesn'tnecessarily mean balance in my
life.
It's like when I'm unbalancedis when I actually become most
productive.
Jamie Lynn (10:11):
Yeah, right, Exactly .
And you wrote a couple books,right I don't know if you want
to talk about them One calledit's called Breathwork Detox,
right?
Kurtis Lee Thomas (10:21):
Yeah.
So that book is BreathworkDetox how to Thrive in the Age
of Anxiety.
I want people to know because Ispend, you know, all of my time
certifying people in breathworkdetox and doing these breathing
events virtually every twoweeks.
I was the worst breather.
People think I'm the bestbreather.
I was the worst breather ever,holding my breath, panic attacks
(10:44):
, anxiety, and I'm like, ok, Ican't get through life like this
.
I'm never going to achieve mygoals and get to where I want to
be and just feel comfortableand confident in my own body.
So something needs to change.
And the thing is, when somethingneeds to change in your life,
that something is you.
You're the only problem you'llever have, yet you're the only
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solution that you'll ever need,and when you take care of your
mind, body and your spirit, yourlife will take care of itself.
So that was, you know, my.
You know I had to find asolution and you know I started
out as a certified life coach,certified by ISA, which is a
sports science, fitnessprofessional.
(11:27):
Then I became certifiedhypnotherapist, nlp practitioner
, reiki master so I wascollecting these certifications
right.
Andotherapist, nlp practitioner, reiki master so I was
collecting these certificationsright.
And you know, really justlearning, even like hypnotherapy
, I'm like I can't be hypnotized.
But I went and did a hundredhour training and I'm like, oh,
we're all hypnotized, at leastlike five to seven times per day
.
You know, even when we'redriving there's something called
highway hypnosis, so you'rejust driving.
(11:47):
Next thing, you know, you endup to your location, Like you
know, you stopped at the redlights, you stopped at the stop
signs, but you don't reallyrecall the driving because you
were in a trance state.
Yeah, exactly to one book, easyto read book and gives you the
(12:16):
solutions that I used where Ifelt like it saved my life.
There's a breathing technique Ishare that changed my life and
there's another technique that Ishare that that saved my life
and I put those in the book andthe book is not riddled with all
these breathing techniquesbecause I realized if you give
people too many things to do,they don't do anything.
It's just like I can juggle,throw one ball in the air, throw
two balls in the air I canactually do three balls in the
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air.
But if you throw a fourth ballat me it's all going to come
crashing down.
So I know my limits.
So I just focused on the besttechniques that you can give
someone who's struggling withanxiety.
So that's why I wrote that book.
The other book is the World isYours, the Secrets Behind the
Secret.
That is an all-encompassingbook and anyone who's on the
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journey of spiritual awakeningwhich wink, wink is everybody,
whether you realize it or not,like it or know it or not that
book, what I've gotten frompeople is that it was the
missing piece that they werelooking for.
It helped them connect all thedots of all these pieces of
information they gathered overthe years.
And I remember one lady.
(13:22):
She told me I think she put itthe best she goes.
You know, curtis, throughoutlife I feel like we're
collecting these little tinypuzzle pieces.
And we have these puzzle piecesin our hand and we don't quite
know where to put them down, sowe just kind of hold onto them.
She goes, your book was likeall the outer edges of the
puzzle board and it allowed meto take my piece of my puzzle
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and put it in the game and haveit make sense.
Jamie Lynn (13:49):
Wow, that's cool.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (13:51):
That was.
I'm like that was great, likethat was.
That was the best explanation.
And you know, that's the firstbook that I had and it became a
number one bestseller and Ithink, like four countries and
Oprah got it, tony Robbins, joeRogan, deepak there's over 150
celebrities that have that bookin their possession.
So, and that was my first one,I did it all myself and a lot of
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those people like the book.
Jamie Lynn (14:14):
Wow.
And where could people get yourbooks?
On Amazon or your website oryeah, they're all on Amazon.
Okay, cool, nice, nice, nice.
And what are some of yourgreatest success stories and
testimonials you heard from yourbreathwork clients.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (14:31):
Oh man, I'll say that most of the
testimonials the big ones, Iguess you could say seem
unbelievable.
And there's I witnessedmiracles.
Literally little miracleshappen with this technique and
the obvious is peopleimmediately feel buoyant, they
feel lighter, they feel likethey just dumped all their
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emotional baggage.
Because, you know, sometimesit's not the weight of the
baggage, it's how we carry it.
And a lot of people learn tocarry it well and I like to tell
people, you know, sometimes theweight that we need to lose
isn't on our physical body, sopeople just feel just so much
better and it cuts down theircortisol, their anxiety.
(15:13):
So that's like the given formost people.
And then there's ones where aweird one for me, that was women
kept reaching out to me sayingthat I forget the name of the
doctors, but there's a doctorwho deals with women in
fertility and they were going tothese doctors, spending all
this money, and then they didthe breathwork and then they
were able to get pregnant.
Now this happened a handful oftimes where I'm like, oh my God,
(15:37):
this is the thing and what thebreath is doing, it's removing
all energetic blockages andsuppressed emotions in the body
which, like we said, can notonly wreak havoc in your system,
but it can also block you ofyour manifestations and block
your body of the physicalhealing that it needs.
And that was the physicalhealing for me was how I even
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got into breathwork was I had astomach condition that doctors
couldn't heal me.
They couldn't even diagnose meand I was suffering.
I thought I was dying of cancerbecause I went from 185 to
about 142 and I couldn't thinkstraight and I was all messed up
and I was so desperate just topaint the picture of how bad it
was, I checked myself in the LACounty Hospital where I was
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living at the time and it was mysecond time there and I told
them cut me open, I will signthe waiver, just cut me open.
I need you to go inside and see, because I already swallowed
three pill cameras.
I took endoscopies,colonoscopies, every test under
the sun, spending tens ofthousands of dollars from the
co-payments just co-paymentsfrom the best doctors from LA to
New York, and they couldn't.
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So I was desperate and Ithought maybe I had a like a
like a new millennia typeparasite that they couldn't
detect because I was going toIndia and Thailand and some of
these places and luckily theydidn't cut me open because I
found this technique and I didone session of this technique.
One session it completelyeradicated my stomach condition
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and I was mind blown.
It took me like three days towrap my head around this and I'm
like how is this possible?
I've I've been to the junglesof Peru, I did ayahuasca 12
times, 14 times, sorry, and youknow, nothing did it.
And I had all thesecertifications and nothing could
heal me, couldn't heal myself,and then this one technique did
it for me and then I realizedyou know what?
(17:28):
The reason why these doctorscouldn't tell me what was wrong
with me is because my issuewasn't physical, it was
emotional, and they don't teachus that in school.
Jamie Lynn (17:40):
No, they don't, Definitely not yeah.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (17:44):
And I do want to mention one other thing I
touched upon, just to elaborate,but this is a big one, and the
reason why I'm bringing this upis because that whole world is
yours book, right, that was onthe laws of the universe.
We talk a lot about the law ofattraction, but I talk about the
other laws of the universe aswell, in All Encompassed.
And what I realized becauseit's not in that book is the
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biggest thing to manifest isthat we all are trying to
consciously manifest, and I'mhere to tell people you already
know how to manifest, you'realready doing it every single
day, right?
You think you want something,you visualize it, you feel the
emotions, it comes to you.
The big step is obviouslyaction, right, because
visualization without executionis hallucination, and I think
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Thomas Jefferson said that.
Jamie Lynn (18:28):
Oh, wow.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (18:30):
But what I realized is that we all want to
let things in, but really whatwe need to do is let things go,
and we need to empty our cupbefore we can fill it up.
We need to make energetic spacein our lives and even in our
bodies, which is our physicalmanifesting instrument, before
we can let all these things in.
(18:50):
And the analogy I give is likethink of an airplane.
So if you're in this airplaneand you're looking to land
somewhere in life and if there'ssomething on that runway,
you're not going to be able toland or take off.
In fact, the air trafficcontroller which let's call it
the universe if you're trying toland and there's something on
your runway, they're going totell you to keep doing what?
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Going in circles.
And a lot of people feel likethey're going in circles in life
because they haven't clearedtheir runway, they haven't made
energetic space for the thingsthat they want.
So don't focus on so much thethings that you want.
The universe knows who you want.
You think about it every day.
Focus on learning to let go ofthe things.
That's preventing you fromaccepting your blessings.
Jamie Lynn (19:33):
Wow, you have a point there, that's true.
Blessings Wow, you have a pointthere, that's true.
When people have blocks, theyneed to clear those, and I do
have clients that they come tome and they don't know what's
wrong with them, because theyare medical intuitive.
So the breath work couldprobably help them, because
sometimes it's just something adoctor can't find, like you said
, and it's just energetic orwhatever energy or yeah, and
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what does trauma?
how does that come in to whatyou do Like?
How do you deal with trauma?
I mean, how does it affect us?
Kurtis Lee Thomas (20:07):
Well, for me, I wasn't dealing with my trauma
.
I didn't even know that I hadtrauma, and I think most people
don't.
They know they've been throughsome stuff, but you don't really
know.
The trauma is there until it'sgone, which is what I found out
to be quite interesting.
The thing about trauma is so themind tends to always think into
the future and the body holdson to the past.
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So the body is a living libraryof all of our experience and
the body keeps score.
So another thing is that thesoul always wants to be present
gore.
So another thing is that thesoul always wants to be present.
So we have this fight amongstthose three elements of
ourselves and typically the mindusually wins, but the body will
accumulate all these things.
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And the issue is when we areyounger.
We have to redefine ourdefinition of trauma and pain
when we get older, because whatI consider to be traumatic now
versus when I was a child isdifferent when I was a child.
Not getting picked forvolleyball, when everyone goes
out and plays and I'm sittingthere by myself, right, or I get
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pushed off the swing by a bully, right those are traumatic
events that imprint ouremotional bodies when we're
younger and the issue is wedon't have the emotional
intelligence as children toprocess those emotions, so we
store them in the body until wedo get to a level of
consciousness and awarenesswhere we can.
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But this thing happens to us,called life and all these
traumatic events and issues thatwe had, they compound and they
build up and it doesn't releasejust on its own.
You know we need to consciouslydo things to, whether it's
shadow work, whether it's breathwork, whether it's therapy,
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coaching, whatever.
You got to do something to workwith these issues.
And then you know the traumacan cause all types of issues in
our life, but when we releaseit we feel like a new person.
Jamie Lynn (22:04):
Yeah, and then how often do you recommend people do
breath work on a daily basis?
Kurtis Lee Thomas (22:09):
Yeah, so the sessions that I do are deep work
, right?
So you know the people we have.
They do them twice a month withme, so I'll do them every new
moon and every full moon, so wejust did one for the eclipse.
And we're going to do one forthe next solar eclipse, which I
think is like October 3rd.
Jamie Lynn (22:29):
Not the podcast, but oh no, it is Right.
It's coming up, I think in thesecond or third.
You're right.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (22:35):
Yeah, and then conscious breathing is
something that you should doevery day, like we do have
something we call the BreathlessClub.
Jamie Lynn (22:43):
Oh, wow.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (22:45):
Yeah, of course I do, and I have seven
facilitators which I've trainedover the years and each one has
their own day Soulful Sundaysand Motivation Mondays,
intuition Tuesdays, wisdomWednesdays and they'll do
breathwork every single morning,6 am PT.
We do have the replays and wegive that as a free bonus to all
of our members and it's like alittle motivational session and
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then a little breathwork and itstarts your day, because our
motto is win the morning win theday.
So it's that maintenance.
But as far as the deep ones,I'd say I mean, just try one and
you'll want to do it.
Like the first time I found it,I did a deep session every
single day for close to I think.
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I fell off right around 10 or11 months.
I almost made it a full year,which is a lot, wow.
Jamie Lynn (23:33):
I thought you were going to say 10 or 11 days.
You actually went months.
That's good, that's remarkable.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (23:39):
Well, that was like my personal initiation
to teaching.
The modality is really all thewonderful things that I can do
for you.
Jamie Lynn (23:49):
Wow, and how long does a session take?
The deep breath work.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (24:00):
Yeah, so the deep breath work, the event is
about 90 minutes.
Wow, the event is 90 minutes.
The active breath work isaround 28 minutes and then we
cool off periods, we doinvocations, we do a lot, of, a
lot of cool visualizations atthe end because while they're in
this, that space right, we wantto take advantage of being in
that space and, whether that'smanifesting or whether whatever
it is, we do different things,like last one.
We did heal the inner child, soI brought them the
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visualization of healing theinner child and that was pretty
cool.
I love that one.
Jamie Lynn (24:26):
That's cool.
Yeah, that's awesome.
And you did one you said on thefull moon eclipse in Pisces
just on the 17th, I think it wasright.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (24:34):
Yeah, that was the inner child one.
Jamie Lynn (24:36):
And you host those the new moon and full moon right
Sessions.
Is it usually just you orTypically.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (24:49):
typically, if I do have somebody fill my spot
, it's a master teacher.
We have three teachers and I'mprobably going to have one for
not this next one, but thefollowing one, because I'm
planning on going to Tibet forabout three weeks a month.
Jamie Lynn (24:57):
Oh, how fun.
Yeah, that's amazing.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (25:01):
Yeah, I don't know the connection out there,
so I think I'm just going tohave someone.
Jamie Lynn (25:06):
Exactly.
Wow, that sounds great,fabulous.
And what is your definition ofa healer and do you consider
yourself a healer?
Kurtis Lee Thomas (25:14):
What a great question, so I might have
contradicting answers for you,which I apologize in advance.
Jamie Lynn (25:20):
No, that's okay.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (25:21):
Because there's a part of me that
doesn't want to claim to be ahealer.
I was trained by a shaman forfive years, but I don't call
myself a shaman.
I don't walk that particularpath that they do and holding
the sacred stones with themeverywhere they go, although I
have crystals.
But there's the certain lineageI was taught with.
I don't follow that path, but Ilearned a lot of great things
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from them and I believe I don'theal people.
I show them how to healthemselves.
That's the important part thatI feel.
Now.
I think the definition of ahealer, with that said, is that
there's a lot more healers outthere than we believe, meaning a
lot of massage therapists,right when they're putting their
hands on people.
They're working energy thereyou go right, and I think
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massage therapy for a lot ofpeople is the this isn't you,
but the unawakened healers to beconsidered a healer or even
think that they're a healer oreven have awakened to that, that
they are healers.
And they'll go into massagetherapy not knowing that they
were healers in past lives andlook at you like that's what you
(26:26):
did and you transitioned.
You're fully clairvoyant.
But for the average massagetherapist, they're healers.
Also, people don't think abouthairdressers.
There's hairdressers who areconstantly working energetically
with people.
That's why you want to tellyour hairdresser everything,
like they're your therapist,right?
Because they're a healer.
(26:46):
They have their hands on you atall times, working with your
crown, so there's a lot ofundercover healers out there.
Jamie Lynn (26:56):
Yeah, that's interesting.
I was just going to mentionthat.
I got my hair done yesterday.
He put some color in it and hewashed my hair and I just felt
like he was a healer.
I could just tell I felt reallyrevitalized or healed after he
worked on my hair.
So it's amazing you said that.
(27:17):
Yeah, that's cool.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (27:19):
So cool.
Jamie Lynn (27:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And if someone wants to becomea healer or a breath work detox
facilitator like you, whereshould they start?
Kurtis Lee Thomas (27:28):
Yeah, so well , first of all, they could go to
breathworkdetoxcom.
And when they go tobreathworkdetoxcom there's a
couple of things they can do.
One they can go to the teachertraining where we give free
consultation.
So we'll get on a call with you, we'll answer all your
questions, because we attract alot of people who obviously want
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to help people.
But also therapists, we have afew nurses, quite a few psychics
believe it or not not andsports rehabilitation people.
All these are like the types ofgroups of people that we've
been certifying lately, so theycan get a free consultation.
But there's also a link to goto the virtual event.
Now, if they go to the virtualevent and if they got curious
(28:10):
throughout this you know podcastand they want to try that we
created a code for you calledpodcast 50, so they can put in
that code and they'll get 50%off their first event.
Jamie Lynn (28:20):
Oh, that's cool.
And if someone goes to yourwebsite, your website is
curtisleethomascom Curtis with aK, and what can they find on
your website?
Kurtis Lee Thomas (28:32):
Yeah, so I don't know.
I probably got to update mywebsite, to be honest with you,
because I was I love it.
Jamie Lynn (28:36):
Oh, is it good?
Yeah, I love't know.
I probably got to update mywebsite, to be honest with you,
because I was I was a good.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (28:39):
I love your website.
Yeah, I actually haven't beenin a while.
I just went on today and I sawit had an old bio and I was like
, all right, guys, we need torevamp this website.
It's it's, it's all there.
I would say if people want toget in touch with me would be to
probably go to my Instagram manfrom thears and if they send me
a DM I try to be pretty goodwith reaching, like getting back
(29:01):
to people within 48 hours, andbecause so many people have
questions, they'll go throughthe breathwork and they'll be
like oh my God, like thishappened, that happened and it's
pretty interesting.
We have a community for that,but I still like to get back to
people.
Jamie Lynn (29:14):
Oh, that's amazing.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (29:18):
Oh, that's amazing Also you do have a
community where people can talkabout their experiences with
this right.
Oh, that's amazing.
Brothwork buddies.
Jamie Lynn (29:23):
Oh, wow.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (29:24):
And.
Jamie Lynn (29:25):
I also noticed on your website you offer three
free chapters of your new book,right?
Kurtis Lee Thomas (29:31):
Oh yeah, that should be on there too.
Jamie Lynn (29:32):
Download that I can put the link in the bio Perfect
here on YouTube and on we on allthe major podcasting platforms.
Excellent, you'll.
You have a lot of opportunitiesfor people too, like if they
wanted to do certain things,like business opportunities,
right yeah.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (29:50):
So you know I try to give away.
You know some things for themand you know, know the purpose
of this podcast, right, it's notto sell my books or sell
anything Like.
The purpose of this, of me evendeciding to start going on
podcasts, is, if I can getpeople curious, then to me that
was a win, because curiosity, inmy eyes, it didn't kill the cat
(30:15):
, ignorance did.
So we don't know what we don'tknow and what I noticed is that
even myself, a decade intocollecting those certifications
and finding myself and mymission purpose, when I found
Breathwork, I'm like I was inthis for a decade and I didn't
even know this existed and itwas like the secret sauce.
(30:35):
So I'm like man, I got to makesure that people at least know
about this.
So you know, getting peoplecurious first of all, curiosity
is just consciousness at work.
So if I got them curious tomaybe go on YouTube or maybe to
try a virtual event or even seekout somebody else, it doesn't
matter.
That's a W to me.
Jamie Lynn (30:54):
Right, yeah, definitely, it's good that
you're bringing this out there.
And I just had a question.
You mentioned you had stomachissues and then you kind of
found breath work and it workedfor you and after that it
sounded like maybe your stomachissues weren't as bad or
whatever.
How long after you starteddoing the breath work did your
(31:14):
physical symptoms seem to goaway?
I'm just curious.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (31:18):
Yeah, so I'd say almost immediately.
So what happened was I washaving a Taoist tummy massager
massage.
It's called CNT Amazing lady.
Her name's Janica, she's in LA,if you can look her up.
She's the one that put me onand told me hey, you should try
(31:39):
out this breathing techniqueBecause, if you think about it,
your stomach is where 80% ofyour immune system is produced.
It's where 80% of your serotoninis produced.
Now, that's the two things thatmake you healthy and happy.
So 80% of your health and yourhappiness is in your gut.
And what this lady told me whenI was on her table, she goes
Curtis, your wind gate isblocked.
Now that's terminology for Idon't know Taoist Tao, whatever
(32:07):
her modality.
And your wind gate is the mostimportant energetic center in
your body.
It's where all the energyenters, all the new energy, and
where all the old energyreleases is through that main
wind gate.
And mine was blocked.
So it was like a sewage of oldenergy in my system and just
like water, like if water'sgoing down right or just flowing
and let's say, something comesin front of it like a dam.
Well, what happens?
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That water gets blocked.
It has to go in anotherdirection, and energy is the
same way.
Energy travels through our bodythrough something called nadis.
Anatomically, you can't cutyourself open and see all these
nadis, but there's 72,000energetic highways and energetic
channels that run through ourbody.
There's one place in the bodywhere they all intersect the
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belly, the stomach, where I callit the time square of your
energy system, also 80% of yourhealth and your happiness.
So if you're not breathing deepinto your belly, you are
missing out on life.
There's just so much magicthere.
So that was my issue.
I was breathing in my belly.
I was actually holding mybreath and it was trauma.
It was emotions that I wasstoring in my belly that was
(33:14):
trapped there and I couldn't getthem to, to release.
Even after 14 ayahuascaceremonies still couldn't.
And that's because the breathis the only thing that's
connected to all 72,000 nattiesand that's what blew my mind.
Jamie Lynn (33:26):
Wow, that's amazing, but people need to be
consistent with that.
They can't just do it once ortwice and think it's going to go
away.
It sounds like you have to beconsistent with this.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (33:38):
I did gonna go away.
It sounds like you have to beconsistent with this.
You know to how I did it.
Normally I'd say yes foranything, but I did it one time,
because you only get to removethe blockage once.
Jamie Lynn (33:45):
Then it starts flowing oh, I see, yeah, yeah
that that's what happened.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (33:50):
The blockage is gone and then I like started
to like come back to me and Ibecame actually more smarter.
I didn't know how good I was,because Wow, you seem smart.
Jamie Lynn (34:00):
Well, no, but I was dumb, then I'm not dumb.
No, I get it.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (34:04):
What I mean is there is even in our Western
science.
There's a clear connectionbetween gut brain.
The gut is the second brain andmy brain was foggy.
I couldn't even think straight,like.
And when all that started towork, get work again, I was like
, oh my God, I can, I can see, Ican, I can, like, think better,
and so many things changed.
(34:25):
And then from there, I feellike it was more of a cascading
of clearings and healings that Islowly became, got stronger.
I got physically stronger,mentally stronger, but
immediately that started andthen within months I was a
completely different person.
Jamie Lynn (34:42):
Wow, that's amazing and I'd love to have you come
back and maybe do a breathworksession on my YouTube channel.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (34:49):
Yeah, that'd be cool, do it live.
Jamie Lynn (34:51):
Yeah, that'd be fun.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just so everybody else outthere knows that yeah, we could
do that.
But our tagline for theElectric Spirit Podcast is
igniting your spirit.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (35:04):
How do you ignite your spirit, curtis?
Ignite your spirit, well, Ithink for me, the obvious that
comes to my mind is doing whatyou love.
Right, because stress doesn'tcome from doing a bunch of
things.
It comes from doing a bunch ofthings that don't bring you joy
and passion.
And when you find yourselfgetting excited about anything,
(35:26):
you have to follow that joy,follow that excitement as if
it's your internal compass onthis planet.
That is your North Star, andfinding things that light you up
.
And I realized, the more you'rein a higher vibration and
frequency, your reality changes,which means like new people
come into your life, newopportunities come into your
life.
You think differently aboutyourself.
(35:48):
So the key to it is reallyfollowing that joy, wherever it
may be and however small ortrivial.
You may think that that is.
Follow that.
Jamie Lynn (35:59):
Oh, that's wonderful .
And before we close out, do youwant to leave the audience with
anything?
Or before we go?
Kurtis Lee Thomas (36:07):
You know I don't want to depart any wisdom
on them from what they didn'talready grab from this, but I'd
like to probably take the timeto congratulate them, you know,
for making it this far on thishard earth journey they call
Harvard of the universe.
It's not easy and you know, wedon't have to pretend that life
is easy, it's not, it's, it'shard.
(36:29):
And you know, everyone's goingthrough something that they're
not talking about and it'd bereally nice if you had, you know
, not just compassion for thosepeople but compassion for
yourself.
And you know, and and just beproud of yourself, you know, for
listening to podcasts like this.
You know it's not an ordinarypodcast, you're not an ordinary
person, you know, and you, youhave to be at a certain level of
(36:53):
awareness and consciousness andhonest your spiritual journey
to be able to, you know, to behere today making it this this
far.
So, yeah, I mean, pat yourselfon the back.
Jamie Lynn (37:05):
Oh, I love that and I hope you, I, you can come back
, curtis, I'll come back, yeahthat would be great and thank
you so much, and they can findyou on your website,
curtisleethomascom.
Right.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (37:22):
Yes.
Jamie Lynn (37:22):
Okay, cool, all right, thank you so much.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (37:25):
Thank you for having me Thanks.
Jamie Lynn (37:27):
Thank you for listening to the Electric Spirit
Podcast with your host, psychicmedium Jamie Lynn.
Find us on Instagram atElectric electric spirit podcast
.
Be sure to join us next time,recharging your energy,
recharging your magic,recharging your spirit.
(37:47):
Until then, ciao.
Welcome to the Electric Spirit Podcast where we
dive into all thingsmetaphysical and fun.
Here's your host, psychicMedium, Jamie Lynn.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (00:17):
Welcome to the Electric Spirit Podcast with
your host, psychic Medium JamieLynn.
Today, we're thrilled to haveKurtis Lee Thomas, a renowned
keynote speaker and one of theforemost corporate mindfulness
trainers in the world.
With a wealth of experienceworking with Ivy League colleges
and Fortune 500 companies likeNike, as well as prestigious
(00:39):
venues like MGM Grand.
Curtis is dedicated toawakening the best in
individuals and enhancingcreativity and productivity in
the workplace.
His mantra first you must learn, then you should earn, so
eventually you can returnreflects his commitment to
transformative growth.
A certified life coach master,breathwork teacher and energy
(01:04):
healer, curtis has developedpowerful tools to facilitate
change in people's lives.
After a profound spiritualawakening in 2011, he felt
compelled to share his insightsand abilities with the world.
Join us as we dive into theworld of breathwork, detox,
stress management and theessence of healing with Curtis.
(01:25):
You can find Curtis on hiswebsite, curtisleethomascom, or
on Instagram at manfromthestars.
Jamie Lynn (01:36):
Hi Curtis, Welcome to the Electric Spirit Podcast.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (01:39):
Hey, jamie, thank you for having me.
Jamie Lynn (01:41):
Thank you.
Can you tell the audience alittle bit about yourself?
Kurtis Lee Thomas (01:44):
Jamie, thank you for having me.
Thank you, can you tell theaudience a little bit about
yourself?
Oh gosh, okay, well, my name isCurtis Lee Thomas and I go by
manfromthestars on Instagram andmy account is it's very
diversified into spiritualawakening, helping people on
their path of spiritualawakening, which can be brutal
(02:06):
at times.
It's beautiful and brutal atthe same time.
Right, and I'm a breathworkmaster trainer, so I have a lot
of time aside training people inmy modality, breathwork detox,
and I also do corporatemindfulness.
So I brought breathwork intosome big organizations like Nike
and NASA and the Capital Group.
So you know that's fun becauseI feel brought breathwork into
some big organizations like Nikeand NASA and the Capital Group.
So that's fun because I feellike breathwork's the Trojan
(02:29):
horse to the work that we do andit's very accepted because
you're just breathing air.
Quotes.
Jamie Lynn (02:36):
Yeah, exactly.
No, that's great.
And what is breathwork detoxexactly?
And maybe walk me through theprocess of what happens during
and after?
Kurtis Lee Thomas (02:46):
Sure.
So breathwork detox is themodality that I created.
It's based upon deep,diaphragmatic breathing, so deep
down into the abdomen where alot of us we don't breathe.
So if you've got a room full ofpeople and said everyone on the
count of three, take a deepbreath, they take a deep breath.
They all breathe in their chestand their clavicles and their
shoulders and they're notbreathing in their belly and
(03:08):
that's called paradoxicalbreathing.
And if you look at a fish or adog or a baby, if you watch a
baby breathe, when a baby takesa breath, their belly moves.
When we take a breath, ourbelly doesn't move and that's
because of one main reason ofsomething that happened to us
called life, and you know we geta lot of stress and things
(03:28):
stuck in our diaphragm and it'sreally hard to breathe down into
that area.
But it's a very important areawhich I hope we can get into in
later times.
And this is done lying down onyour back, so you're not upright
in a seated position likemeditation, which makes it like
(03:49):
there's no barrier to entry withbreathwork, and that's why I
love it.
There's a lot of barriers toentry with yoga and even
meditation that we can get into.
Well, with breathwork, you justlie down on your back, you
breathe and you're going to havean experience.
And, unlike yoga and meditation, the results of breathwork are
immediate and undeniable fromone session, and I think that's
why so many people are flockingto this modality, not just
(04:13):
because the studies are comingout.
We have breathwork searcheshave spiked over 400% and you
know the world is stressed rightnow.
So people are looking for, youknow, modality.
Harvard did a study and theysaid 60 to 90% of all doctor's
visits are stress related.
So you know they're looking forthis modality that moves the
needle right, something thatactually works.
(04:33):
And you know people are gettingresults and that's why I
dedicated, you know, my life, mycareer to bringing this to the
world my career to bringing thisto the world.
Jamie Lynn (04:48):
Wow, that's amazing, that's great.
I love it.
Thank you, yeah, and how isthis different from, let's say,
yoga or meditation?
Kurtis Lee Thomas (04:53):
Okay, great, it's a great segue into that.
You know, let's talk about thebarriers to entry.
Well, when it comes to yoga,first of all, yoga without
conscious breathing is juststretching, that's all it is.
So you have to bring the breathinto the yoga poses.
Of all, yoga without consciousbreathing is just stretching,
that's all it is.
So you have to bring the breathinto the yoga poses which
actually, you know, make themwork.
(05:13):
And with yoga, man, it takes alot, a lot of time for those
results to compound right andfor you to really see the
results of yoga.
And with breathwork, it'simmediate and undeniable.
And you can be, you know, 400pounds lie down on your back,
fully clothed.
You don't have to go into ayoga room wearing a leotard and
feel comfortable.
You know bending in certainpositions in front of people.
So it's super simple and that'swhy people and even companies
(05:35):
are adopting to it.
Now, if you look at meditation,I believe meditation is more of
an advanced practice, becauseif you get somebody who's
stressed out which is the worldto sit down, sit still and don't
think a thought for the next 20minutes, they're going to get
more stressed out.
And what I've noticed is thatpeople who implement a
(05:56):
breathwork practice, not only isthe meditations they do more
effective, it's actually moreenjoyable.
So I'll tell people toimplement a breathwork practice
first.
Specifically, a deep,diaphragmatic breathing
technique Doesn't have to bebreathwork detox, but that's
what we focused on, because if Iwas to give you the comparison,
it'd be like cleaning a dirtycar.
(06:17):
If you're going to clean yourcar, you wouldn't clean your car
with a toothbrush, right, you'dwant to clean your car with a
power washer.
Clean your car with atoothbrush right, you'd want to
clean your car with a powerwasher.
And that's what breathwork is.
It's the deep clean for thebody and it's the power washer.
And then, once your car isclean, you can use the
toothbrush as maintenance to getin those little crevices.
(06:37):
And I think it's the comparisonbetween, you know, breathwork
and meditation.
I do yoga, I meditate, but it'snot as effective and noticeable
of the results than breathwork.
But when you put them alltogether it's beautiful.
But I'd say one is the deep andthe other is the maintenance.
Jamie Lynn (06:55):
Oh, that's great.
I love that.
And why do so many people cryduring your breathwork sessions?
Kurtis Lee Thomas (07:04):
during your breathwork sessions.
Yeah, you know, it's sointeresting because I realized
that, working with men, it's alot harder for them to cry.
And because we hold a lot ofstuff in.
We might not want to bevulnerable because it might show
our weakness.
And they actually say in theEastern civilization that the
reason why women live longer isbecause they allow themselves to
(07:26):
cry.
They allow themselves toprocess their emotions.
And the thing about crying isall it is is a big energetic
release and if you keep thatstuff in, it wreaks havoc on
your nervous system and it caneven cause dis-ease.
And I think that's a big deal.
They did a study with Dr Suzukifrom British Columbia he's the
(07:48):
head of the genetics departmentand they took the condensed
molecules from the energy ofanger for just one hour and
within just one hour thosecondensed molecules had enough
toxicity to kill 80 guinea pigs.
Jamie Lynn (08:01):
Oh, my goodness.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (08:02):
And you know that's the stuff that we keep in
and why so many people are sickand we don't realize it.
You know and I look at someonelike Steve Jobs you know he had
all the money in the world, thebest doctors, best technology,
best everything, and he stilldied.
He couldn't save himself.
Jamie Lynn (08:19):
And.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (08:19):
I tell people is you know, it doesn't matter
how many millions or billionsare in your bank account, how
many green juices you drink, ifyou are holding on to the toxic
energies of guilt, shame, regret, anger.
It's a death wish.
Jamie Lynn (08:34):
Exactly, yeah, I have his daughter wrote a book
about him and I don't think theyhad a good relationship.
I think he didn't talk to herfor a while or it was kind of
non-existent, so maybe that'ssomething he held in too.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (08:47):
Oh yeah, that's I mean as a father,
single father.
My daughter's been living withme since she was five years old.
It's the best thing that everhappened to me.
I can't imagine having arelationship with my own flesh
and blood.
Jamie Lynn (08:58):
Yeah, right.
And how important is it reallythat we manage our stress and
anxiety in the workplace and athome?
Kurtis Lee Thomas (09:07):
Oh gosh.
I think that's balance is key.
I think we're all striving forbalance and, depending on what
you do like I've been anentrepreneur my entire life my
life isn't always balanced.
This insatiable appetite forknowledge and learning something
(09:34):
new, you know, constantlyfinding balance, but then also
the act of finding balance inyour life.
You're in balance and I thinkthat's just a part of life.
Right, the pendulum swings inboth directions and you know
you'll finding knowing thyself.
I think that is the key inknowing how you operate, because
sometimes I hate to say this,but I work good under pressure
(09:56):
and I don't want to admit that,but it's what allows me to get
things done, and that doesn'tnecessarily mean balance in my
life.
It's like when I'm unbalancedis when I actually become most
productive.
Jamie Lynn (10:11):
Yeah, right, Exactly .
And you wrote a couple books,right I don't know if you want
to talk about them One calledit's called Breathwork Detox,
right?
Kurtis Lee Thomas (10:21):
Yeah.
So that book is BreathworkDetox how to Thrive in the Age
of Anxiety.
I want people to know because Ispend, you know, all of my time
certifying people in breathworkdetox and doing these breathing
events virtually every twoweeks.
I was the worst breather.
People think I'm the bestbreather.
I was the worst breather ever,holding my breath, panic attacks
(10:44):
, anxiety, and I'm like, ok, Ican't get through life like this
.
I'm never going to achieve mygoals and get to where I want to
be and just feel comfortableand confident in my own body.
So something needs to change.
And the thing is, when somethingneeds to change in your life,
that something is you.
You're the only problem you'llever have, yet you're the only
(11:06):
solution that you'll ever need,and when you take care of your
mind, body and your spirit, yourlife will take care of itself.
So that was, you know, my.
You know I had to find asolution and you know I started
out as a certified life coach,certified by ISA, which is a
sports science, fitnessprofessional.
(11:27):
Then I became certifiedhypnotherapist, nlp practitioner
, reiki master so I wascollecting these certifications
right.
Andotherapist, nlp practitioner, reiki master so I was
collecting these certificationsright.
And you know, really justlearning, even like hypnotherapy
, I'm like I can't be hypnotized.
But I went and did a hundredhour training and I'm like, oh,
we're all hypnotized, at leastlike five to seven times per day
.
You know, even when we'redriving there's something called
highway hypnosis, so you'rejust driving.
(11:47):
Next thing, you know, you endup to your location, Like you
know, you stopped at the redlights, you stopped at the stop
signs, but you don't reallyrecall the driving because you
were in a trance state.
Yeah, exactly to one book, easyto read book and gives you the
(12:16):
solutions that I used where Ifelt like it saved my life.
There's a breathing technique Ishare that changed my life and
there's another technique that Ishare that that saved my life
and I put those in the book andthe book is not riddled with all
these breathing techniquesbecause I realized if you give
people too many things to do,they don't do anything.
It's just like I can juggle,throw one ball in the air, throw
two balls in the air I canactually do three balls in the
(12:37):
air.
But if you throw a fourth ballat me it's all going to come
crashing down.
So I know my limits.
So I just focused on the besttechniques that you can give
someone who's struggling withanxiety.
So that's why I wrote that book.
The other book is the World isYours, the Secrets Behind the
Secret.
That is an all-encompassingbook and anyone who's on the
(13:01):
journey of spiritual awakeningwhich wink, wink is everybody,
whether you realize it or not,like it or know it or not that
book, what I've gotten frompeople is that it was the
missing piece that they werelooking for.
It helped them connect all thedots of all these pieces of
information they gathered overthe years.
And I remember one lady.
(13:22):
She told me I think she put itthe best she goes.
You know, curtis, throughoutlife I feel like we're
collecting these little tinypuzzle pieces.
And we have these puzzle piecesin our hand and we don't quite
know where to put them down, sowe just kind of hold onto them.
She goes, your book was likeall the outer edges of the
puzzle board and it allowed meto take my piece of my puzzle
(13:45):
and put it in the game and haveit make sense.
Jamie Lynn (13:49):
Wow, that's cool.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (13:51):
That was.
I'm like that was great, likethat was.
That was the best explanation.
And you know, that's the firstbook that I had and it became a
number one bestseller and Ithink, like four countries and
Oprah got it, tony Robbins, joeRogan, deepak there's over 150
celebrities that have that bookin their possession.
So, and that was my first one,I did it all myself and a lot of
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those people like the book.
Jamie Lynn (14:14):
Wow.
And where could people get yourbooks?
On Amazon or your website oryeah, they're all on Amazon.
Okay, cool, nice, nice, nice.
And what are some of yourgreatest success stories and
testimonials you heard from yourbreathwork clients.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (14:31):
Oh man, I'll say that most of the
testimonials the big ones, Iguess you could say seem
unbelievable.
And there's I witnessedmiracles.
Literally little miracleshappen with this technique and
the obvious is peopleimmediately feel buoyant, they
feel lighter, they feel likethey just dumped all their
(14:52):
emotional baggage.
Because, you know, sometimesit's not the weight of the
baggage, it's how we carry it.
And a lot of people learn tocarry it well and I like to tell
people, you know, sometimes theweight that we need to lose
isn't on our physical body, sopeople just feel just so much
better and it cuts down theircortisol, their anxiety.
(15:13):
So that's like the given formost people.
And then there's ones where aweird one for me, that was women
kept reaching out to me sayingthat I forget the name of the
doctors, but there's a doctorwho deals with women in
fertility and they were going tothese doctors, spending all
this money, and then they didthe breathwork and then they
were able to get pregnant.
Now this happened a handful oftimes where I'm like, oh my God,
(15:37):
this is the thing and what thebreath is doing, it's removing
all energetic blockages andsuppressed emotions in the body
which, like we said, can notonly wreak havoc in your system,
but it can also block you ofyour manifestations and block
your body of the physicalhealing that it needs.
And that was the physicalhealing for me was how I even
(15:59):
got into breathwork was I had astomach condition that doctors
couldn't heal me.
They couldn't even diagnose meand I was suffering.
I thought I was dying of cancerbecause I went from 185 to
about 142 and I couldn't thinkstraight and I was all messed up
and I was so desperate just topaint the picture of how bad it
was, I checked myself in the LACounty Hospital where I was
(16:22):
living at the time and it was mysecond time there and I told
them cut me open, I will signthe waiver, just cut me open.
I need you to go inside and see, because I already swallowed
three pill cameras.
I took endoscopies,colonoscopies, every test under
the sun, spending tens ofthousands of dollars from the
co-payments just co-paymentsfrom the best doctors from LA to
New York, and they couldn't.
(16:44):
So I was desperate and Ithought maybe I had a like a
like a new millennia typeparasite that they couldn't
detect because I was going toIndia and Thailand and some of
these places and luckily theydidn't cut me open because I
found this technique and I didone session of this technique.
One session it completelyeradicated my stomach condition
(17:07):
and I was mind blown.
It took me like three days towrap my head around this and I'm
like how is this possible?
I've I've been to the junglesof Peru, I did ayahuasca 12
times, 14 times, sorry, and youknow, nothing did it.
And I had all thesecertifications and nothing could
heal me, couldn't heal myself,and then this one technique did
it for me and then I realizedyou know what?
(17:28):
The reason why these doctorscouldn't tell me what was wrong
with me is because my issuewasn't physical, it was
emotional, and they don't teachus that in school.
Jamie Lynn (17:40):
No, they don't, Definitely not yeah.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (17:44):
And I do want to mention one other thing I
touched upon, just to elaborate,but this is a big one, and the
reason why I'm bringing this upis because that whole world is
yours book, right, that was onthe laws of the universe.
We talk a lot about the law ofattraction, but I talk about the
other laws of the universe aswell, in All Encompassed.
And what I realized becauseit's not in that book is the
(18:04):
biggest thing to manifest isthat we all are trying to
consciously manifest, and I'mhere to tell people you already
know how to manifest, you'realready doing it every single
day, right?
You think you want something,you visualize it, you feel the
emotions, it comes to you.
The big step is obviouslyaction, right, because
visualization without executionis hallucination, and I think
(18:27):
Thomas Jefferson said that.
Jamie Lynn (18:28):
Oh, wow.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (18:30):
But what I realized is that we all want to
let things in, but really whatwe need to do is let things go,
and we need to empty our cupbefore we can fill it up.
We need to make energetic spacein our lives and even in our
bodies, which is our physicalmanifesting instrument, before
we can let all these things in.
(18:50):
And the analogy I give is likethink of an airplane.
So if you're in this airplaneand you're looking to land
somewhere in life and if there'ssomething on that runway,
you're not going to be able toland or take off.
In fact, the air trafficcontroller which let's call it
the universe if you're trying toland and there's something on
your runway, they're going totell you to keep doing what?
(19:12):
Going in circles.
And a lot of people feel likethey're going in circles in life
because they haven't clearedtheir runway, they haven't made
energetic space for the thingsthat they want.
So don't focus on so much thethings that you want.
The universe knows who you want.
You think about it every day.
Focus on learning to let go ofthe things.
That's preventing you fromaccepting your blessings.
Jamie Lynn (19:33):
Wow, you have a point there, that's true.
Blessings Wow, you have a pointthere, that's true.
When people have blocks, theyneed to clear those, and I do
have clients that they come tome and they don't know what's
wrong with them, because theyare medical intuitive.
So the breath work couldprobably help them, because
sometimes it's just something adoctor can't find, like you said
, and it's just energetic orwhatever energy or yeah, and
(19:58):
what does trauma?
how does that come in to whatyou do Like?
How do you deal with trauma?
I mean, how does it affect us?
Kurtis Lee Thomas (20:07):
Well, for me, I wasn't dealing with my trauma
.
I didn't even know that I hadtrauma, and I think most people
don't.
They know they've been throughsome stuff, but you don't really
know.
The trauma is there until it'sgone, which is what I found out
to be quite interesting.
The thing about trauma is so themind tends to always think into
the future and the body holdson to the past.
(20:28):
So the body is a living libraryof all of our experience and
the body keeps score.
So another thing is that thesoul always wants to be present
gore.
So another thing is that thesoul always wants to be present.
So we have this fight amongstthose three elements of
ourselves and typically the mindusually wins, but the body will
accumulate all these things.
(20:48):
And the issue is when we areyounger.
We have to redefine ourdefinition of trauma and pain
when we get older, because whatI consider to be traumatic now
versus when I was a child isdifferent when I was a child.
Not getting picked forvolleyball, when everyone goes
out and plays and I'm sittingthere by myself, right, or I get
(21:08):
pushed off the swing by a bully, right those are traumatic
events that imprint ouremotional bodies when we're
younger and the issue is wedon't have the emotional
intelligence as children toprocess those emotions, so we
store them in the body until wedo get to a level of
consciousness and awarenesswhere we can.
(21:29):
But this thing happens to us,called life and all these
traumatic events and issues thatwe had, they compound and they
build up and it doesn't releasejust on its own.
You know we need to consciouslydo things to, whether it's
shadow work, whether it's breathwork, whether it's therapy,
(21:51):
coaching, whatever.
You got to do something to workwith these issues.
And then you know the traumacan cause all types of issues in
our life, but when we releaseit we feel like a new person.
Jamie Lynn (22:04):
Yeah, and then how often do you recommend people do
breath work on a daily basis?
Kurtis Lee Thomas (22:09):
Yeah, so the sessions that I do are deep work
, right?
So you know the people we have.
They do them twice a month withme, so I'll do them every new
moon and every full moon, so wejust did one for the eclipse.
And we're going to do one forthe next solar eclipse, which I
think is like October 3rd.
Jamie Lynn (22:29):
Not the podcast, but oh no, it is Right.
It's coming up, I think in thesecond or third.
You're right.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (22:35):
Yeah, and then conscious breathing is
something that you should doevery day, like we do have
something we call the BreathlessClub.
Jamie Lynn (22:43):
Oh, wow.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (22:45):
Yeah, of course I do, and I have seven
facilitators which I've trainedover the years and each one has
their own day Soulful Sundaysand Motivation Mondays,
intuition Tuesdays, wisdomWednesdays and they'll do
breathwork every single morning,6 am PT.
We do have the replays and wegive that as a free bonus to all
of our members and it's like alittle motivational session and
(23:06):
then a little breathwork and itstarts your day, because our
motto is win the morning win theday.
So it's that maintenance.
But as far as the deep ones,I'd say I mean, just try one and
you'll want to do it.
Like the first time I found it,I did a deep session every
single day for close to I think.
(23:27):
I fell off right around 10 or11 months.
I almost made it a full year,which is a lot, wow.
Jamie Lynn (23:33):
I thought you were going to say 10 or 11 days.
You actually went months.
That's good, that's remarkable.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (23:39):
Well, that was like my personal initiation
to teaching.
The modality is really all thewonderful things that I can do
for you.
Jamie Lynn (23:49):
Wow, and how long does a session take?
The deep breath work.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (24:00):
Yeah, so the deep breath work, the event is
about 90 minutes.
Wow, the event is 90 minutes.
The active breath work isaround 28 minutes and then we
cool off periods, we doinvocations, we do a lot, of, a
lot of cool visualizations atthe end because while they're in
this, that space right, we wantto take advantage of being in
that space and, whether that'smanifesting or whether whatever
it is, we do different things,like last one.
We did heal the inner child, soI brought them the
(24:22):
visualization of healing theinner child and that was pretty
cool.
I love that one.
Jamie Lynn (24:26):
That's cool.
Yeah, that's awesome.
And you did one you said on thefull moon eclipse in Pisces
just on the 17th, I think it wasright.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (24:34):
Yeah, that was the inner child one.
Jamie Lynn (24:36):
And you host those the new moon and full moon right
Sessions.
Is it usually just you orTypically.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (24:49):
typically, if I do have somebody fill my spot
, it's a master teacher.
We have three teachers and I'mprobably going to have one for
not this next one, but thefollowing one, because I'm
planning on going to Tibet forabout three weeks a month.
Jamie Lynn (24:57):
Oh, how fun.
Yeah, that's amazing.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (25:01):
Yeah, I don't know the connection out there,
so I think I'm just going tohave someone.
Jamie Lynn (25:06):
Exactly.
Wow, that sounds great,fabulous.
And what is your definition ofa healer and do you consider
yourself a healer?
Kurtis Lee Thomas (25:14):
What a great question, so I might have
contradicting answers for you,which I apologize in advance.
Jamie Lynn (25:20):
No, that's okay.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (25:21):
Because there's a part of me that
doesn't want to claim to be ahealer.
I was trained by a shaman forfive years, but I don't call
myself a shaman.
I don't walk that particularpath that they do and holding
the sacred stones with themeverywhere they go, although I
have crystals.
But there's the certain lineageI was taught with.
I don't follow that path, but Ilearned a lot of great things
(25:42):
from them and I believe I don'theal people.
I show them how to healthemselves.
That's the important part thatI feel.
Now.
I think the definition of ahealer, with that said, is that
there's a lot more healers outthere than we believe, meaning a
lot of massage therapists,right when they're putting their
hands on people.
They're working energy thereyou go right, and I think
(26:05):
massage therapy for a lot ofpeople is the this isn't you,
but the unawakened healers to beconsidered a healer or even
think that they're a healer oreven have awakened to that, that
they are healers.
And they'll go into massagetherapy not knowing that they
were healers in past lives andlook at you like that's what you
(26:26):
did and you transitioned.
You're fully clairvoyant.
But for the average massagetherapist, they're healers.
Also, people don't think abouthairdressers.
There's hairdressers who areconstantly working energetically
with people.
That's why you want to tellyour hairdresser everything,
like they're your therapist,right?
Because they're a healer.
(26:46):
They have their hands on you atall times, working with your
crown, so there's a lot ofundercover healers out there.
Jamie Lynn (26:56):
Yeah, that's interesting.
I was just going to mentionthat.
I got my hair done yesterday.
He put some color in it and hewashed my hair and I just felt
like he was a healer.
I could just tell I felt reallyrevitalized or healed after he
worked on my hair.
So it's amazing you said that.
(27:17):
Yeah, that's cool.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (27:19):
So cool.
Jamie Lynn (27:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And if someone wants to becomea healer or a breath work detox
facilitator like you, whereshould they start?
Kurtis Lee Thomas (27:28):
Yeah, so well , first of all, they could go to
breathworkdetoxcom.
And when they go tobreathworkdetoxcom there's a
couple of things they can do.
One they can go to the teachertraining where we give free
consultation.
So we'll get on a call with you, we'll answer all your
questions, because we attract alot of people who obviously want
(27:49):
to help people.
But also therapists, we have afew nurses, quite a few psychics
believe it or not not andsports rehabilitation people.
All these are like the types ofgroups of people that we've
been certifying lately, so theycan get a free consultation.
But there's also a link to goto the virtual event.
Now, if they go to the virtualevent and if they got curious
(28:10):
throughout this you know podcastand they want to try that we
created a code for you calledpodcast 50, so they can put in
that code and they'll get 50%off their first event.
Jamie Lynn (28:20):
Oh, that's cool.
And if someone goes to yourwebsite, your website is
curtisleethomascom Curtis with aK, and what can they find on
your website?
Kurtis Lee Thomas (28:32):
Yeah, so I don't know.
I probably got to update mywebsite, to be honest with you,
because I was I love it.
Jamie Lynn (28:36):
Oh, is it good?
Yeah, I love't know.
I probably got to update mywebsite, to be honest with you,
because I was I was a good.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (28:39):
I love your website.
Yeah, I actually haven't beenin a while.
I just went on today and I sawit had an old bio and I was like
, all right, guys, we need torevamp this website.
It's it's, it's all there.
I would say if people want toget in touch with me would be to
probably go to my Instagram manfrom thears and if they send me
a DM I try to be pretty goodwith reaching, like getting back
(29:01):
to people within 48 hours, andbecause so many people have
questions, they'll go throughthe breathwork and they'll be
like oh my God, like thishappened, that happened and it's
pretty interesting.
We have a community for that,but I still like to get back to
people.
Jamie Lynn (29:14):
Oh, that's amazing.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (29:18):
Oh, that's amazing Also you do have a
community where people can talkabout their experiences with
this right.
Oh, that's amazing.
Brothwork buddies.
Jamie Lynn (29:23):
Oh, wow.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (29:24):
And.
Jamie Lynn (29:25):
I also noticed on your website you offer three
free chapters of your new book,right?
Kurtis Lee Thomas (29:31):
Oh yeah, that should be on there too.
Jamie Lynn (29:32):
Download that I can put the link in the bio Perfect
here on YouTube and on we on allthe major podcasting platforms.
Excellent, you'll.
You have a lot of opportunitiesfor people too, like if they
wanted to do certain things,like business opportunities,
right yeah.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (29:50):
So you know I try to give away.
You know some things for themand you know, know the purpose
of this podcast, right, it's notto sell my books or sell
anything Like.
The purpose of this, of me evendeciding to start going on
podcasts, is, if I can getpeople curious, then to me that
was a win, because curiosity, inmy eyes, it didn't kill the cat
(30:15):
, ignorance did.
So we don't know what we don'tknow and what I noticed is that
even myself, a decade intocollecting those certifications
and finding myself and mymission purpose, when I found
Breathwork, I'm like I was inthis for a decade and I didn't
even know this existed and itwas like the secret sauce.
(30:35):
So I'm like man, I got to makesure that people at least know
about this.
So you know, getting peoplecurious first of all, curiosity
is just consciousness at work.
So if I got them curious tomaybe go on YouTube or maybe to
try a virtual event or even seekout somebody else, it doesn't
matter.
That's a W to me.
Jamie Lynn (30:54):
Right, yeah, definitely, it's good that
you're bringing this out there.
And I just had a question.
You mentioned you had stomachissues and then you kind of
found breath work and it workedfor you and after that it
sounded like maybe your stomachissues weren't as bad or
whatever.
How long after you starteddoing the breath work did your
(31:14):
physical symptoms seem to goaway?
I'm just curious.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (31:18):
Yeah, so I'd say almost immediately.
So what happened was I washaving a Taoist tummy massager
massage.
It's called CNT Amazing lady.
Her name's Janica, she's in LA,if you can look her up.
She's the one that put me onand told me hey, you should try
(31:39):
out this breathing techniqueBecause, if you think about it,
your stomach is where 80% ofyour immune system is produced.
It's where 80% of your serotoninis produced.
Now, that's the two things thatmake you healthy and happy.
So 80% of your health and yourhappiness is in your gut.
And what this lady told me whenI was on her table, she goes
Curtis, your wind gate isblocked.
Now that's terminology for Idon't know Taoist Tao, whatever
(32:07):
her modality.
And your wind gate is the mostimportant energetic center in
your body.
It's where all the energyenters, all the new energy, and
where all the old energyreleases is through that main
wind gate.
And mine was blocked.
So it was like a sewage of oldenergy in my system and just
like water, like if water'sgoing down right or just flowing
and let's say, something comesin front of it like a dam.
Well, what happens?
(32:28):
That water gets blocked.
It has to go in anotherdirection, and energy is the
same way.
Energy travels through our bodythrough something called nadis.
Anatomically, you can't cutyourself open and see all these
nadis, but there's 72,000energetic highways and energetic
channels that run through ourbody.
There's one place in the bodywhere they all intersect the
(32:51):
belly, the stomach, where I callit the time square of your
energy system, also 80% of yourhealth and your happiness.
So if you're not breathing deepinto your belly, you are
missing out on life.
There's just so much magicthere.
So that was my issue.
I was breathing in my belly.
I was actually holding mybreath and it was trauma.
It was emotions that I wasstoring in my belly that was
(33:14):
trapped there and I couldn't getthem to, to release.
Even after 14 ayahuascaceremonies still couldn't.
And that's because the breathis the only thing that's
connected to all 72,000 nattiesand that's what blew my mind.
Jamie Lynn (33:26):
Wow, that's amazing, but people need to be
consistent with that.
They can't just do it once ortwice and think it's going to go
away.
It sounds like you have to beconsistent with this.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (33:38):
I did gonna go away.
It sounds like you have to beconsistent with this.
You know to how I did it.
Normally I'd say yes foranything, but I did it one time,
because you only get to removethe blockage once.
Jamie Lynn (33:45):
Then it starts flowing oh, I see, yeah, yeah
that that's what happened.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (33:50):
The blockage is gone and then I like started
to like come back to me and Ibecame actually more smarter.
I didn't know how good I was,because Wow, you seem smart.
Jamie Lynn (34:00):
Well, no, but I was dumb, then I'm not dumb.
No, I get it.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (34:04):
What I mean is there is even in our Western
science.
There's a clear connectionbetween gut brain.
The gut is the second brain andmy brain was foggy.
I couldn't even think straight,like.
And when all that started towork, get work again, I was like
, oh my God, I can, I can see, Ican, I can, like, think better,
and so many things changed.
(34:25):
And then from there, I feellike it was more of a cascading
of clearings and healings that Islowly became, got stronger.
I got physically stronger,mentally stronger, but
immediately that started andthen within months I was a
completely different person.
Jamie Lynn (34:42):
Wow, that's amazing and I'd love to have you come
back and maybe do a breathworksession on my YouTube channel.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (34:49):
Yeah, that'd be cool, do it live.
Jamie Lynn (34:51):
Yeah, that'd be fun.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just so everybody else outthere knows that yeah, we could
do that.
But our tagline for theElectric Spirit Podcast is
igniting your spirit.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (35:04):
How do you ignite your spirit, curtis?
Ignite your spirit, well, Ithink for me, the obvious that
comes to my mind is doing whatyou love.
Right, because stress doesn'tcome from doing a bunch of
things.
It comes from doing a bunch ofthings that don't bring you joy
and passion.
And when you find yourselfgetting excited about anything,
(35:26):
you have to follow that joy,follow that excitement as if
it's your internal compass onthis planet.
That is your North Star, andfinding things that light you up
.
And I realized, the more you'rein a higher vibration and
frequency, your reality changes,which means like new people
come into your life, newopportunities come into your
life.
You think differently aboutyourself.
(35:48):
So the key to it is reallyfollowing that joy, wherever it
may be and however small ortrivial.
You may think that that is.
Follow that.
Jamie Lynn (35:59):
Oh, that's wonderful .
And before we close out, do youwant to leave the audience with
anything?
Or before we go?
Kurtis Lee Thomas (36:07):
You know I don't want to depart any wisdom
on them from what they didn'talready grab from this, but I'd
like to probably take the timeto congratulate them, you know,
for making it this far on thishard earth journey they call
Harvard of the universe.
It's not easy and you know, wedon't have to pretend that life
is easy, it's not, it's, it'shard.
(36:29):
And you know, everyone's goingthrough something that they're
not talking about and it'd bereally nice if you had, you know
, not just compassion for thosepeople but compassion for
yourself.
And you know, and and just beproud of yourself, you know, for
listening to podcasts like this.
You know it's not an ordinarypodcast, you're not an ordinary
person, you know, and you, youhave to be at a certain level of
(36:53):
awareness and consciousness andhonest your spiritual journey
to be able to, you know, to behere today making it this this
far.
So, yeah, I mean, pat yourselfon the back.
Jamie Lynn (37:05):
Oh, I love that and I hope you, I, you can come back
, curtis, I'll come back, yeahthat would be great and thank
you so much, and they can findyou on your website,
curtisleethomascom.
Right.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (37:22):
Yes.
Jamie Lynn (37:22):
Okay, cool, all right, thank you so much.
Kurtis Lee Thomas (37:25):
Thank you for having me Thanks.
Jamie Lynn (37:27):
Thank you for listening to the Electric Spirit
Podcast with your host, psychicmedium Jamie Lynn.
Find us on Instagram atElectric electric spirit podcast
.
Be sure to join us next time,recharging your energy,
recharging your magic,recharging your spirit.
(37:47):
Until then, ciao.
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