November 30, 2024 • 57 mins
Join us on a fascinating journey with Nathalie Rogers, better known as Femme Tarot, a psychic medium and spiritual coach who swapped a high-flying corporate career for a more mystical path. Hear how Nathalie went from a skeptical young woman who blocked her psychic gifts to someone who embraced her spiritual awakening and now helps others do the same. She shares insights from her transformative story, which includes eye-opening moments from her childhood, her adventures in the music industry, and the creation of her healing YouTube channel, Femme Tarot.
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Explore the intriguing world of tarot and mediumship as Nathalie guides us through her experiences with past life readings, psychic exploration, and intuitive insights into unsolved true crime cases like the Madeleine McCann disappearance. From mastering the art of tarot to navigating the emotional complexities of channeling energies, Nathalie offers a candid glimpse into being a psychic medium. The discussion also delves into the fascinating intersection of pop culture with spirituality, as Nathalie shares stories about her encounters with spirits and the challenges they present.
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We also navigate thought-provoking themes such as encounters with dark energies, the future of psychic and mediumship, and the potential of astrological events to reveal hidden truths. Nathalie provides predictions on future global shifts and highlights the role of spiritual awareness in modern education, envisioning a world where spiritual understanding is mainstream. The episode ends with an inspiring look at how younger generations could uplift humanity, and the hope for spirituality to be an integral part of daily life.
You can find Nathalie Rogers/Femme Tarot here:
https://femmetarot.com/
https://www.youtube.com/@FemmeTarot
Jamie Lynn & Nathalie US Elections Aftermath, Pluto in Aquarius & Key Predictions for 2025: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKkCYZUV_os
Instagram: @femmetarot
https://www.tiktok.com/@femmetarot
You can find the host Jamie here:
https://www.buymeacoffee.com/jamielynn12
Bob Olson Best Psychic Directory:
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Electric Spirit Podcast where we
dive into all thingsmetaphysical and fun.
Here's your host, psychicMedium, jamie Lynn.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Welcome to the Electric Spirit Podcast.
I'm your host, psychic MediumJamie Lynn.
Today we're thrilled to haveNatalie, aka Femme Tarot, an
internationally renowned psychicmedium and spiritual coach who
has touched countless lives withher intuitive and compassionate
approach.
Known for her ability toconnect with the spirit realm,
(00:40):
natalie has spent years honingher skills in tarot, astrology
and mediumship, guiding clientstoward deeper self-understanding
and spiritual growth.
In addition to her one-on-onereadings, natalie is the creator
of Femme Tarot, a popularYouTube channel where she shares
her gifts and wisdom with aglobal audience.
(01:01):
Through her channel, shecombines tarot, astrology and
spiritual guidance to helppeople navigate life's
challenges with clarity andconfidence.
Natalie's work goes beyondproviding answers she creates a
healing space that empowersindividuals to confront
struggles, heal past wounds andstep into their true potential.
(01:24):
Today, she's here to share herjourney and insights, and we
can't wait to dive into thisconversation.
Hi, natalie, I'm so glad you'rehere on the Electric Spirit
podcast.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I'm very excited, very happy and very honored to
be here.
Jamie, I love what you do andwe met I mean, for those who are
listening and don't know it,you were on my channel a couple
of weeks ago and I just lovedhaving you on.
The energy was amazing, I think, when two and we have similar
(01:59):
abilities as well.
Yeah, and I do find that whenwe come together, like the
energy around us is just I agree, and your, your YouTube channel
is called Femme Tarot, right?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, I don't know if you want to tell people about
your background and how all thisstarted, cause you did say you
were in, were in the corporatecloset, and when you named
yourself Femme Tarot, you werestill working in corporate
America.
Right, you was, I was amarketing exec for years.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Well, I started in the music industry, so I worked
at Sony, sony Music and then,yeah, I have a whole different
life before Femme Tarot, whichis a book in its own.
There's so much.
So I started off at Sony Music.
Being in, you know, I was inthe marketing department and
(02:49):
then I left Sony Music and thenI went, I did radio in England,
almost got into MTV that's adifferent story for a different
day.
Anyways, I got into fastforward.
A few years later, after Sony,I started working for tech
companies and startups that werein the tech industry, as a
(03:13):
marketing exec.
I love marketing.
I still do to this day.
I mean, we still have to do alot of marketing for our
spiritual business and it helpswhen you have the background.
But I was just feeling so wornout, you know, I was just
feeling I wasn't inspired by myjob etc.
Um, I was born with my gifts,with my abilities, but I had
(03:36):
blocked them when I was in my20s because, you know, in your
20s you're like student, you'reat college or university, you
just want to party, you justdon't want to deal with spirit
and souls that come through andother people's issues.
You're self-centered Exactly,and I was.
But you know, you cannot blockit for long, because you were
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born with these abilities for areason and I always knew that my
calling was to help people.
I knew I was a healer At somepoint when I was 28, 29,.
I'm a marketing exec and Istarted a psychology course on
the side because I thought thatwas my way of helping people.
(04:21):
And suddenly, boom, I had myspiritual awakening and my
guides came forward and they'relike what psychology?
What are you talking about,girl?
You've got to start your ownspiritual business.
You have to put yourself outthere, reach as many people as
you can and help them, becausethe world right now, the
collective, is going through amajor transformation and
(04:44):
transition and we need more ofyou Hands on deck.
So this is what happened.
So I was working, so I startedmy spiritual business, I started
giving other people readings,and this was I wasn't
advertising, so this was throughmy friends and family and
through recommendations, etcetera.
(05:05):
And I was doing that in theevening, so during the day I
would go to work you know, be a,an executive and then in the
evenings I had young kids, so Iwould put them to bed and then I
was on zoom.
You know, I was on zoom givingreadings, and then I did that
for a few years and then in theend I said this is what I should
(05:27):
be doing.
So I went to my boss, I gave mynotice.
He refused to let me go.
So that was stressful, jamie.
That was stressful because Iwas asking him.
I went there with my you know,with my.
There's a paper here in Europe.
I went there with my you know,with my.
There's a paper here in Europe.
They have to sign a paper whichsays that you know, you're
(05:49):
relieved from your position.
And he was refusing to sign it.
He was like how much money doyou want?
What do you want?
You know, I'll get you a car,I'll get you this.
I'm like it's not about themoney.
And he refused.
And then in the end he let meleave because I was like listen,
we'll compromise.
Ok, this is what we're going todo.
If you need me, I'll act as aconsultant.
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So whenever you need me, I'llact as a consultant.
And I did for a few months.
And then so, during that time,when I had already decided to
leave my job and leave thecorporate world, I decided to
start my YouTube channel and Iwas like, why am I going to name
my YouTube channel?
And I don't want peopleGoogling my name.
(06:35):
And then what if my boss seesit?
Or what someone else sees itone of my clients, whatever?
I was just worried about thatbecause back then it wasn't as
it is now.
So spiritualism is now becomingmore mainstream, it's not taboo
anymore.
So I was thinking I'm like,okay, what should I name my
(06:55):
channel?
And, having the marketingbackground, I knew that I had to
use the word tarot or psychicor intuitive or whatever it is
that you're doing on yourchannel.
Name, right, because that'seasier for the algorithm to pick
it up, because then thealgorithm is able to categorize
your channel depending on thetype of content.
(07:18):
So I was like, okay, and it wasa full moon.
It was a full moon and I wassitting there on my computer and
I looked at the moon and I'mlike the moon, the feminine.
I started working with the wordmoon and started brainstorming
and then I thought, well, it'sall about the divine feminine.
(07:39):
We're entering a time where thefeminine energy is going to
overrule.
Let's say everything else.
So that's how the name cameabout femme, and it's don't
confuse it with femme.
For people listening orwatching, it's not LGBTQ.
(08:01):
Some people get confusedbecause they call the call the
femmes.
Are, you know, women who likewomen?
Oh, okay, and then they callthemselves that, if I'm not
mistaken.
Okay, yeah, but it was out ofthe French word, because I'm
also French, my first languageis bilingual, so French English.
(08:23):
So it's femme.
It's femme is a woman.
I love that long-winded answer,but there, it is.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
No, I like it.
It's awesome.
But were you, were youinitially drawn to tarot or just
you?
You do everything you dopsychic medium like you.
Yeah, exactly so, you're justlike me.
Yes, we are the Swiss knives.
Yeah, exactly, we sure are.
That's great.
I love the name too.
It's really cool.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Yeah, yeah, I started off so how it all started with
tarot and all that was like whenI was around 10, 11, because I
was seeing, you know, spiritsand ghosts and energies and I
could read people and I couldread people's auras.
So I was just confused.
But you know, um, I was raisedin a Catholic family so my mom
(09:12):
was totally against tarot oranything of that divination
tools in general, so I wasn'tallowed to have them.
Um, so I started kind ofplaying around with playing
cards heart have card tommencywhich I learned how to read.
I started like I can do I cando fortune, like gypsy readings
as well, because that's what Ilearned back then, because I was
(09:34):
not allowed tarot.
But I also got into astrologybecause I felt that I was going
to get the answers of theknowledge that I was receiving.
I didn't even know where, what,how.
So I'm like I'm going to findthose answers in astrology.
So I have to learn astrology soI can learn my, so I can learn
(09:55):
how to read my chart andunderstand who I am, because I
didn't know who I was.
So that's how I got.
I got into astrology and then acouple of years later I was a
friend of mine invited me overto their summer house.
They had a beach house and hercousin came in, who was like 10
years older than us, and she hada tarot deck with her.
(10:15):
She's like girls, come on, sitaround the table, let's throw
the cards Back.
Then all we cared about wasboys.
What is this boy thing, or doeshe fancy me, do you think?
Those were the questions.
And she started reading me andthen she looked at me, straight
in my eyes, and she said you'vegot to learn tarot because
you've got an incredible gift,an incredible light.
(10:39):
You're very, very gifted.
And I was like, hmm, you know,but I hadn't shared with anyone
except my mom when I was littleabout everything that I was
seeing and experiencing.
Yeah, and she taught me tarotand that's how I got into it.
And then I went to boardingschool and then a boarding
school I was reading tarot forall the girls in my, in my, yeah
(11:01):
, in my house.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
So that's amazing.
Wow, that is really cool.
I really think that's awesomeyeah and yeah, and your
channel's fun too.
I love your channels.
People can check it all.
I'll have all the links in thedescription.
Yeah, and on your youtubechannel it is called femtaro,
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like you mentioned.
Um, you often do readings aboutpop culture.
I've noticed that you just didone on the Royals.
What have been your favoritetopics to explore?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
In general, I would say that's a good question.
I like pop culture because Ilike pop culture myself and
since I have this background infilm and music et cetera, you
know there's an extra layer toit.
If you will, I love the popculture ones because I do
believe that they answer a lotof our questions and I find them
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fun, except for all the youknow what the ditty stuff,
because I've done severalreadings on those and those are
heavy and dark.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
So those are not and dark so those are not enjoyable.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Um, I love those.
So that's how I got into it.
But, to be honest, I got intothe housewives before I got into
pop culture.
So I was the first, let's justsay, tarot reader, by almost six
years ago, who started readingthe housewives and what was
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going on.
Um, and because I thought itwas fun, I was like I, I love
reality tv.
I was watching a lot ofhousewives back then and I was
like, okay, so I've gotquestions, I'm gonna answer them
myself, you know, I'm gonnathrow the cards.
And then I, I started doingthose readings on YouTube.
Then it kind of revolved intopop culture, true crime I love
(12:51):
doing true crime yeah, truecrime is awesome.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
What's one of your favorite true crime readings?
Or even if you didn't do areading on it, what, what
fascinating?
What case is fascinating withtrue crime?
I'm just curious.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Interesting.
So I would say the MadeleineMcCann one, mccann, no, mccann,
sorry, mccann yeah, because thatwas huge and me being half
British and being raised inEngland, you know it just hit
home and like it was likebecause this was a British
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couple that went to Portugal,they, their child, was abducted,
slash question mark whathappened, and there's a lot of
speculation and a lot oftheories going around.
So that was definitely a verytouching channel that I did Very
, very touching.
(13:46):
The good news is that what Iwas told by Madeline herself was
that eventually we will have,we will get all the answers and
it's coming soon, and I dobelieve it's going to be in 2025
where, yeah, new evidence andmore concrete evidence is going
to come out regarding whathappened to Madeline.
(14:07):
So definitely that one.
Now there's another one thatI'm going to do soon because so
many people have asked for thisone.
It's the Delphi murders.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Oh, I don't know a whole lot about that.
I'll have to look into that one.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I didn't know anything about it until people
started saying you've got toread on the Delphi murders.
There's something fishy aboutit.
There's so much by this man whoseems to be guilty, but now the
(14:47):
evidence, though, shows someoneelse, so it's a little bit
confusing.
I haven't looked into it yet,but I will a little bit, I don't
want to go too into it before Ido readings.
The less I know, the better.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Exactly, that is really cool.
Yeah, I love true crime too.
I love have you done it?
True crime reading, not onyoutube, but I would like to.
I would like to do.
I did do one myself on themenendez brothers oh, yeah, that
was true I just did it myselfin private and the empress and
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emperor came up in the because Idid the celtic cross.
So that's mom and dad, right,unalived them.
And are they unalived at them?
And the way the spread went, itlooks like they're going to be
released you know it's funny.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
You say that because the first reading I did on
youtube I was like I didn't seeit.
This was three, three monthsago.
Two months ago Now I went on tosomeone else's channel because
they asked me on and they askedme about it.
So I pulled the cards again andI saw Lyle is the young one,
right, the younger one.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
He's older.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Oh sorry.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Eric.
Eric is the younger one, yeah,he has blue eyes.
I think the blue eyed guy.
Younger one, yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
He has blue eyes.
I think the blue eyed guysyounger, yeah, I don't remember.
Anyways, I saw the younger one.
The younger brother is the onewho's going to be released first
.
So, yeah, wow, so it.
It really coincides with whatyou're you're reading show you.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
So yeah, that's interesting.
I think he's a sagittarius.
I don't know what the otherbrother is, I forgot, but he
came up in the reading too asthe temperance.
Wow, yeah, I think eric isactually.
Um, I feel psychically he'snicer than Lyle.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
He has a heart.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
He feels a lot more than the older brother.
I feel he's sensitive.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
You're right about that.
I don't know.
Well, maybe the brother,because of all the PTSD and
everything that he's beenthrough, he's well-guarded, or
he's just, you know, sure, addedprotective layer.
Let's just say, um, yeah, but Ihope, I hope the best for those
.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Um, they're not boys anymore, the men, because, yeah,
it's horrific it really is, andthen the interesting thing too,
and then we'll move on tosomething else.
I don't want to say yeah, butum, there is a menudo connection
, because I used to like menudowhen I was younger, and so one
of the boys from the or guyshe's not a boy anymore, he's a
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man from menudo, the, the boysband was molested by the father,
by eric and lyle's dad.
Oh, oh, wow, this is on Netflix.
So he was actually talkingabout it, because their dad did
something in the music industryand he did something with Menudo
(17:51):
.
Oh, interesting.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I didn't know that it's terrible, it's terrible.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I don't know right, yeah, so that like yeah, so they
think that you know now that,that, uh, you know former boy
band member came out it's andsaid that their father molested
him, or I don't know if I cansay that on YouTube he
mistreated, mistreated, right,he mistreated him, and so it's
(18:22):
like you know, I think peopleare starting to believe these
brothers now.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Yeah, listen, I worked in the music industry.
I wasn't well.
I've had my fair share of stuffthat happened to me.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Oh yeah, well, I used to hang out at the house of
blues, at the private clubupstairs.
I've had somebody.
A lot of weird things happen,believe me.
I was like shocked, so I don'teven want to say who they are.
They're like people, peopleknow it's like they're famous
yeah yeah, yeah, me neither.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
No, we'll protect you for now, for now, exactly, for
now, exactly.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
For now, right, and I just was going to ask you, when
you do a reading, what are yourfavorite types of reads Like,
what is your favorite type ofreading?
Psychic mediumship, astrology,or do you combine all of them?
Or I'm just curious.
Or tarot, good question.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I don't know, I don't know about you, you but I go
through phases or I go throughlike these, like, uh, for
instance, now I'm super, I lovedoing these past life readings.
I do past life readings, I usetarot for them, I use my guides
uh, those are super fun andexciting and I you can tell that
the querent or the client gets.
(19:40):
You can see like their eyeskind of like popping out of
their head because they're likewhoa, they can really relate to
stuff that is coming throughfrom the past life, to things
that they're going through nowphobias, people, circumstances,
things like that or even likewhy they have issues with
(20:01):
relationships in this life.
For instance, it could beconnected to a past life.
So, but to answer your question, I love tarot.
I will always love tarot.
I don't need them to read, butI love using them in readings.
But I would say my favoritesare mediumship oh, interesting,
(20:22):
oh, that's good.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
How are you?
Wow, um, I like psychic, I liketarot.
Um, sometimes I've noticed thatpeople say, well, you have to
use, like they get mad if youuse tools.
But it's, I don't really see itthat way.
I've heard them.
They don't talk to me aboutthat, but I've heard, I've read
things like comments that peoplehave made about other psychics,
(20:45):
why, you know, nobody shoulduse tools.
Or other psychics say, well, Idon't use tools, I just use my
natural ability.
But it's like you know, I thinkTero can give you some, maybe
things that you might miss.
That's what I feel.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
I agree.
Yeah, I agree, it really helpsus.
I agree with what you're sayingbecause it really sort of puts,
because people don't realizethe way that we work.
It's not like we sit here andwe just hear something and then
repeat it.
We get different messages.
It's very fragmented howmessages come through and we
(21:21):
have to make sense of it.
So, depending if you'reclairvoyant, clairsentient,
whatever it is, whatever clairyou have, you get.
So Jamie and I, for instance,we both have very similar.
So we're all of it.
So we feel, we hear, we seeit's all of it.
So you have to hone everythingtogether, you have to bring
(21:42):
everything together and tarotreally helps, kind of like keeps
the reading organized.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
It does.
I believe that too.
Yeah, I usually just like to dopsychic, I like to do
mediumship.
I noticed like with mymediumship I start to feel
things that the dead person wasfeeling when they were here.
So it's like I think one ladyhad cataracts and I got a bunch
of floaters in my eyes and Ican't keep doing this.
(22:11):
It's like too much.
I enjoy doing mediumship, but Ijust sometimes I just have to
kind of pace it.
You know what I mean.
Like I do like it.
Yeah, I really like astrologyand psychic and yeah, I do like
medium, but yeah, it's adifferent it's different because
the the what we were talkingabout this on my channel the
(22:35):
other day.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
So when you have to flip from psychic to mediumship
in a reading, let's say you havea client and then you give them
a reading, a psychic reading,and then they're like okay, can
you connect me to my dad or mylate husband?
It takes a lot, it's not likeboom, it starts.
We have to change our frequencyin order for us to open the
(22:59):
curtain you know the veil andallow for spirit to come through
.
And I agree with you, it'sexhausting.
A psychic reading is not asexhausting as a spiritual
reading.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
And it also follows you after the reading.
So I don't know about you, buta lot of times you know, once
I'm done with a client and areading and then you know I
close the circle and I do all my.
You know, I cleanse my deck andcleanse my space and whatnot.
I still, sometimes I still havethat heavy feeling of that
(23:34):
reading and it can follow me fora few hours.
So it's a lot, I agree.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, I've had that happen, yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
I've had an attachment through a reading
Like this guy was so angry.
He was this narcissist who wasabusive to his wife and his wife
wanted closure.
So she came to me even thoughhe had passed and he was mean,
you know he was mean.
He came in and he was like, oh,like a bully, and I was like,
yeah, dude, you don't have abody.
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Like, don't you try tointimidate me, you stay in your
corner.
And I literally put him ontimeout, like I would, I would
bring in her grandma.
Her grandma came in other peopleand he was in there and I was
like, and I told him my clientand like, like he's here, but I
don't like the, the energy hebrings forward.
And he was, she was Jamie, shewas shaking, just the thought
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that, even like her late husband, who was abusive, was in the
room in spirit form, not eventhe same room as me, because
that was zoom.
Um, she was frightened and um,this guy, my gosh goal.
After the reading, he wasfollowing me around the house
and he was screaming in my earand he was playing and I was
(24:46):
just, I was so annoyed, oh, mygosh.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
It doesn't happen often, but it happens.
Do you have to tell him toleave?
I do.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
But this normally, as you know, they do listen
because they don't have freewill.
You can tell them.
You know you have to beassertive and say you're not
welcome here, you're done, youleave.
Yeah, but he was refusing to.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
So I had to do some right, some light work I had to
be some light work to get rid ofhim, and I did in the end,
definitely she felt lighter aswell.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
she emailed me the day after the reading and she
said that she felt lighter, andI do believe that the fact that
I did some light work on him,she she felt she started feeling
lighter about.
Maybe he was like always, Idon't know he was a bully in
life.
He was a bully in the afterlifetoo.
Wow, because he's like almostlike stalking her, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, he's weird bully in the afterlife too,
because she's like almost likestalking her, you know, yeah
that's terrible, geez.
Yeah, you never know who we'regonna have to deal with.
Huh, oh, yeah, I mean have you?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
you know I've, I want to.
I'm sorry, I'm asking you no, Ithink this is fun I, I love it
because I could talk to you allday.
As you know, we we've got yeah,we have a cool connection would
you channel or do a reading, amediumship reading, on one of
the serial killers?
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Bundy, I was just thinking about Ted Bundy.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
I would do him.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I would do a reading on him.
I'm not afraid of these people,I don't know why.
I mean in real.
If he came to me in real life Imight be afraid, but not in
spirit.
It's interesting my friend, hermother, was picked up by ted
bundy and she escaped.
Yes, oh, my god, yeah, and thisis um.
(26:39):
After she escaped and hestopped taking the door, he took
the doorknobs off the doors, soif they were in the car they
couldn't get out.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, wow, my mom's a therapist and she had a client
and he escaped Jeffrey Dahmer.
A client and he escaped JeffreyDahmer.
Wow, I didn't know that.
Yeah Well, I'm from Michiganoriginally and Dahmer was in
Indiana, so that was right nextto Michigan.
And I remember when Dahmer wason the loose I'm thinking, oh my
gosh, I hope he doesn't comeafter me.
(27:12):
And the guy I was dating at thetime, he's like, well, no, he
just goes after guys.
You know.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
I'm like, oh okay he's like well, no, he just goes
after guys.
You know, I'm like oh, okay, sothis is one time that we're
happy to be women.
Oh, you know, when we're aroundstrangers, oh right exactly I
would do jeffrey or not jeffreydammer?
Speaker 2 (27:28):
uh, I would do ted bunny.
Yeah, what about you?
I would do it.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
You know, if there was interest in it, I would
would do it publicly?
I guess I would too, but I knowthat can be triggering for
people.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Sure, I understand.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Right, but then again you can always add a disclaimer
because people or women havebeen, you know, abused or
experienced that these types ofreadings can be triggering Right
.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
And that's not today.
Maybe we should do a candy,maybe one.
What was that?
Speaker 3 (28:02):
oh yeah.
Or actually we can do one whereI do dommer and you do bundy.
Oh, that would be cool.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, I would love that and you know, it's not that
I think this guy is cool oranything.
I just have a bachelor's inpsychology and I have a phd
psychology.
So from that standpoint I thinkyou're right.
I think these people areinteresting.
You know, interestingpsychologically to figure them
out.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Sociologically, psychopathologically as well.
All of it, I agree with you.
I think it's let's do that.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Yeah, let's do that.
That would be reallyinteresting.
We'll really have to cleanseourself before and after.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Oh my gosh It'll be okay, you don't know what I went
through after I did the reading.
I did a reading on Diddy, oh,and I kind of like read his mom,
okay.
So I've had some dealings withhis mom in the past.
I've mentioned this on YouTubebecause, again, one of my many
(29:05):
lives and many professions,before I became a professional
reader was that.
So my brother and I and myhusband started a yacht company.
Oh yeah, which means that Ithink I mentioned this before
where what we did was so wemanaged super yachts for clients
(29:29):
, insured them, charted them out, all of it.
You know, wow, a full package.
It was like a boutique company.
So the company still exists.
It's huge now, um, and mystepbrother is just, you know,
he's got it.
We left, my husband and I leftbecause, yeah, it just wasn't
for us at the time anyways, andwe, we moved to austria
(29:52):
afterwards, soon after, butanyways, the point is that, um,
we charted one of our yachts tothe diddler, to Diddy, oh, wow,
and yeah, and his mom was incharge of everything.
She went through the chartercontract, she went through the
(30:12):
specs, because you always sendsort of like a questionnaire to
your clients, to the charterswhat are your lights, your wands
?
And then you inform the crew,right, so they can give them
top-notch service.
And, um, oh, my God, I rememberthat captain of the boat would
call me every night, every day,usually late at night,
(30:34):
complaining about them becausethey wouldn't go to sleep before
they were awake till three inthe morning, four in the morning
, parties, drugs, all of itwomen, men in and out.
It was a nightmare in thedestroyed, uh, very expensive
table in the um, yeah, on theupper deck.
(30:58):
So what?
Where I'm going with this isthat his mom, diddy's mom, is
very much a uh force behind himand she dabbles in dark arts and
, yeah, voodoo, witchcraft, darkarts, all of it.
(31:18):
And when I did that reading shecame through, her energy came
through and I could feel thatshe was trying to protect like
she had.
She had put a shield so Iwouldn't be able to read him or
her and me being I'm stubborn,so I was like I don't care, I'll
, you know, I'll keep digging.
I need to see what's going oneverything.
And I got sick, jamie, I waspsych keep digging.
I need to see what's going on.
(31:38):
Everything.
And I got sick, Jamie.
I was psychically attacked.
I was sick for three days afterthat.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Oh my goodness, Wow Is she still alive his mom.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Oh yeah, very much alive.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I figured that, I felt that.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
I just wanted to make sure.
Yeah, she's very much alive,very much in charge of his
finances right now.
Everything she's always being,uh, the one in charge.
So, and did you know aboutdiddy's?
I don't know why we're talkingabout him, but did you know that
he had tat?
he has a huge tattoo on his backof the high priestess of voodoo
no, what he's done is he oh,it's great, I have it on my
(32:19):
phone um, and what he's done ishe's taken out her face and he's
replaced the face of the highpriestess with his mom's.
That's all I'm going to say sothat's why, going back to what
you said about cleansing andprotecting, it's paramount that
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you take protective measures.
People like that.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Right, it's interesting you're saying that,
because every time I wanted tolisten about it or maybe read
about it, I felt sick about it.
So not just because of thefreak-offs, but I think it's the
dark energy that you'redescribing.
It makes sense.
Yes, I just have a question.
Do you think his mother I feellike his mother knew about the
(33:07):
freak-offs?
Do you feel that?
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
A hundred percent.
She knew of that.
She's an instigator, I mean,she's very much part of it, but
the problem is that I don't know.
The problem is she's like thepimp you know, she's the one,
you know she's the one that kindof like makes sure that her son
(33:36):
has everything that he needs oranything that he asks for,
makes sure that she protects him, that no one has access to him
unless they go through her first.
So oh yeah, oh, she knows oh,interesting.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Now I do have a question.
Um, he was friends with hesupposedly was friends with
biggie smaller.
He says he was um, I feel thatbiggie was a nice person.
Do you feel he was involved inthis?
I'm just curious.
Oh, you do?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
if did he was involved.
No, no, I'm like, yeah, he is anice person, because I
channeled him oh okay, because Idid um, I did a reading, I did
a video on Biggie and Tupac and,uh, I channeled Biggie but
Tupac I couldn't like I couldfeel his energy, but he wasn't
accessible to me.
So I feel he's getting ready toreincarnate, so oh interesting
(34:27):
my goodness it was no way for meto access him so I could get
like things, like my guides werehelping me, but I wasn't really
connecting to his Biggie thoughbig teddy bear, and all I can
say is, from what Diddy told meand showed me, was that
allegedly we have to use theseterms, unfortunately Allegedly
(34:52):
yes, diddy had very muchsomething to do with that.
He wasn't the one who did itDid he or did he?
Did he?
But there was a woman.
There was a woman.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
And now the question is was that his wife, faith
mistress, was working with Diddy, or was yeah, or helping Diddy
(35:34):
get what he wanted from, or doyou think it just was just his
karma or all this?
Speaker 3 (35:40):
It's been going on for a while, for 30 years 30
years, Right, You've beenthrough Pluto and Sag, Pluto in
Capricorn and finally, as wereach Pluto and Aquarius, it all
comes to light.
So, yeah, Aquarius is very muchabout you know better than I do
(36:03):
, actually, that you know thisis.
It's about helping thecollective.
This is a time where anythingthat was hidden in the shadows
is coming to light, and it'swhat the collective does does
about it, because Aquariusenergy is about bringing
everyone together.
It's about working together.
It's about the collective.
It's about progressive thinking,about getting rid of anything
that anchors down or weighs usdown, and darkness definitely
(36:26):
weighs us down and definitelyinfluences in a negative way our
lives before it gets better.
I'm not going to lie, but weare heading towards what I call
the golden era, where things aregoing to be massively more
light and people are going to bemore connected.
(36:50):
We're going to be more kind ofhuman beings are going to be
more connected to each other andworking each other.
So, yeah, timing is everythingand I do believe the timing is
because of these changes, thiscollective shift, energy shift
that's happening right now.
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (37:10):
I think so too, Astrologically with Pluto and
Aquarius.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Just in general.
How do you think this is going?
Speaker 2 (37:19):
to pan out.
I feel like people are going toget their comeuppances.
I feel like there's peopleright now really rich people,
billionaires trying to buy theirway into things, and I feel
like that's going to end.
I feel like people are going totake their power back.
I feel like what we're seeingnow, especially in the United
States.
It might be going one way, butI think it's going to do a
(37:40):
complete turn and I think peopleare going to be shocked the way
things go.
Yeah, that's my opinion.
I really believe that.
Yeah, I think I think all thesepeople that you know we have a
couple of people at the top thatare in charge I think that's
all going to change.
I think the structures aregoing to change.
I think the structures aregoing to change.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
I agree a hundred percent.
And what?
Um?
It is not only the structure, Ialso believe that um.
So if I'm going to quote thehousewives, for some reason, but
the real housewives, so if thisera that we're stepping into
Pluto and Aquarius had a tagline, if it was a housewife and had
(38:24):
a tagline, it would be expectthe unexpected.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
I love that.
I think that's how I see itExpect the unexpected with a
cherry on top With a cherry ontop for the community.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
True, I thought I was going to.
You said cherry on top and Iwas gonna say cherry on top is
gonna be the aliens or theextraterrestrial.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
What are your thoughts on that?
Oh my gosh, the aliens andextra ets, oh, I believe it.
I've had people on my on thepodcast that you know were taken
or whatever they were.
I forget what they they call it.
She doesn't want to say that.
She says taken because shedoesn't say cause she likes them
.
I guess they're friends.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
The one that was on my podcast Interesting you know
what I've heard, a lot of peoplewho were taken to use the
correct term right feel aconnection to them.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Yeah, that's how she was and I had preston done it on
.
He was actually on thekardashians.
That's how I knew about him andI reached out to him.
He's an author and his friendwas the one that was taken.
He wrote a book on her.
So I believe there are aliens.
I think the government's hidingthem from us for some reason.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Yeah, I believe so too.
I believe that the age ofAquarius or the Aquarius.
I do believe that we will soon,the world will see them.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Oh, I do too.
So in this era, in the next 20years, probably before 20 years,
I feel like we're gonna, we'regonna see them or have
connections with, moreconnections with them I agree
and I can't wait me beingaquarius, I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
I can't wait right, because I mean, it's, at the end
of the day, enough with all thesmoke and mirrors and the lies
and all of it.
Let's really live to our.
That's why we're here, that'swhy we're on earth.
We're here to experience lifeon this planet to the full, to
(40:37):
the maximum in a way, and wedon't because we cannibalize our
own selves.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Exactly Right, I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
And I believe, if aliens are, you know, they start
mingling and they're around us,then it's going to bring a nice
little balance and this iswhat's going to bring humanity
closer to each other.
This is what I believe is goingto bring man closer to each
other, because we what I believeis going to bring man closer to
each other, because we aregoing to be like, hey, listen,
(41:06):
we're not alone.
What have we been doing?
You know, what have we beendoing?
Why we, why, why have we beenfighting against each other or
being, you know, mistreatingeach other, instead of coming
together with those aliens oragainst them?
Whatever it is, I don't know, Icannot predict, but I think
it's, I think it's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
I can't, I do too Well, yeah, I think they're on a
higher vibration.
I don't think they're scary, Ithink they're all about love,
and it sounds like from thepeople I've interviewed that
they don't care about you knowmaterial things.
It's just about you know, likeyou said, you're living the life
on the planet and enjoyingyourself.
(41:46):
It's not about who has what orthe haves and have nots.
You know it's different.
Like I said, I think they're ona higher vibration.
I heard that they could live athousand years, like they have a
really long lifespan oh wow.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
But they do.
Here's the thing, though.
So they they have.
Like do they have organs andstuff?
Like, do they have I?
Speaker 2 (42:11):
don't know, I don't know.
Actually, it's so weird I'llhave to.
That was one question I didn'task them.
That is a very interestingquestion.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Maybe you should bring them back, I will.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Yeah, maybe I could.
As a matter of fact, I couldbring both of them back and, if
you want to come, all four of uscould have a conversation.
I would love that.
I have a ton of questions.
Okay, Because Preston questions.
Okay, because preston justwrote a book.
So, uh, I'll arrange it for thenew year if you want to come.
Awesome, that would be fun.
Thank you, I would.
Yeah that.
I mean they're really reputable.
(42:47):
That, like I said, he was onkeeping up with the kardashians.
Chloe kardashian called themwhen she was looking for ufos
with her boyfriend at the time.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
So yeah, he's really nice time.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
So, yeah, he's really nice.
Yeah, I knew what thatconnection.
Yeah, yeah, thank you, that'llbe, yeah, lovely.
Yeah, I don't know if you wantto share anything about 2025.
Are you getting any vibes aboutwhat, maybe what we can expect?
I don't know if you want toshare it or if you get any
downloads from spirit.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
I got a few, I got I haven't gotten any because I
haven't had the time to kind ofsit down and see, but I have a
few.
So one of them is not so for ifanyone's in Europe.
For instance, a big one that Igot was that things are going to
get worse in Europe when itcomes to public unrest, when it
(43:38):
comes to vandalism, anarchy.
Of course, everything is goingto the far right right now in
Europe.
I do believe I also see somekind of I I was shown some kind
of terrorist attack happening inParis.
I don't want to panic anyone,but I saw that I don't have any
more information around that.
(43:59):
I don't want to panic anyone,but I saw that I don't have any
more information around that.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
I was getting that too.
I didn't mean to interrupt, Iwas picking up on that too.
I got that a few times.
It's interesting you're sayingthat.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
Yeah, and I think this is going.
I believe that terroristincident that's going to happen
in Paris is going to trigger asnowball effect in Europe,
including immigrants andrefugees and closing of the
borders.
I do believe that 2025 is goingto mark the beginning of the
(44:34):
end of the EU.
Oh, interesting.
That's one of my predictionsyeah um, the other one is oh
there's.
There's another one that cameto me during a reading with a
client, um, regarding bitcoin,uh, cryptocurrency in generally
(44:56):
in general.
So, um, because she she's, shehad invested money in crypto.
So while I was reading, I gotsome information.
So I don't know how cryptoworks exactly, but all I can
tell you, and what I got, isthis there is going to be an
(45:16):
upward trend with crypto in thenext two or three months.
We're going to be seeing cryptogoing up.
Their stock market is going togo down, I believe January time,
end of December January that'swhat I'm getting, but then
there's going to be a crash withcrypto as well around March,
april.
(45:36):
So, for anyone who's investedor has crypto, that's another
one.
What was another one?
Yeah, I still feel this wasalso my prediction for 24.
You know weather, extremeweather patterns, floodings, a
(45:57):
lot of water.
I see water.
The water element is going tobe strong in 25, meaning I also
see some kind of ship.
I just got this download.
Now I saw a ship right, somekind of big, whether it's a oh,
it's a cruise ship, oh, wow, oh,no, yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
I saw that.
Well, you know what'sinteresting, aren't they?
Isn't the titanic coming back,is it?
Yeah, it is like it's.
I heard that they're redoingthe titanic.
When is it launching?
Speaker 1 (46:33):
well, I mean, we're the next year or two.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
I'm serious.
I hope it's not what I'm seeing, because can you imagine, my
goodness?
Well, they say um karma, mygosh.
Yeah, our history could repeatitself.
They're taking away.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
What happens?
Speaker 2 (46:48):
those that don't learn history, it's doomed to
repeat itself.
They're in the us, they'retaking all these books away, so
it's like, here we go again.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
That's true, yeah, that's true, oh, lord, and the
whole, and I'm not even, I'm noteven touching the, the
political no, I know no, I'm nottouching that.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
I'm fed up no, uh-uh, me too.
I'm tired of it too.
I'm just staying out of it metoo.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
I'm like listen, we gave our predictions.
It is as it is, we'll see whathappens.
(47:35):
What do you hope for them, forthe spiritual community?
You know what?
I hope?
That it does go even moremainstream.
And I mean, this is a I don'tknow if it's a prediction or a
thought I had recently where I Ihave sort of like a vision
where kids at school, instead oflearning religion, they will
(48:00):
have the option to havespiritual classes and learn
about the spiritual world andspirit and souls and past lives
and maybe even divination, andthat's my hope.
It's my hope because it doesmake you a better person.
You don't need to be gifted and, by the way, everyone has these
(48:21):
abilities.
It's just that you know it's amuscle that you need to train,
it's something that you need towork on.
For anyone listening andwatching, but I just, yeah,
that's my hope because I dobelieve that spirituality and
when you realize who you reallyare on a, on a higher level, you
(48:44):
are happier.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
I do believe the world will become a much happier
place, right I agree, we bringspirituality to the mainstream
and to everyone, and especiallythe kids right because, because
you know people that are likewell, they call us light workers
because we're on a highvibration and so there's a lot
of lower.
I can feel the low vibrations,like I can feel them when I go
(49:09):
out.
A lot of people don't noticethat I can feel it and, yeah, we
got to get the vibration up andthen we do need to get a break.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
Yeah, and these kids are star seeds, they're all like
these, these kids, theseyounger generation and I know
gen z gets a lot of flack, yeah,but on the other hand, gen z,
gen alpha, the next generation,which is going to be I don't
know what the next one's goingto be called after alpha,
anyways, um, they're all here,they have a mission.
(49:40):
They're all here to helphumanity, they're all here to
help the collective, because yousee, babies now I, jamie, I
notice babies now.
I saw that with my kids, buteven with kids now, like friends
, who are just having kid babies.
Now I look at those babies andI see that I can really see
their soul.
These are all souls, soulcoming back.
(50:03):
Yeah, I know.
So we need to give kids, peoplethe tools.
So that's my dream, that's myhope.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Right, and even if they don't teach it in school.
We could, you know, because inthe United States there's a lot
of like, I hate to say itevangelicals yeah sorry, I just
um and they, they want things acertain way.
But you know, we we as lightworkers want things our way too.
You know what's, what's theharm in us.
(50:34):
You know teaching people toexpand their abilities, but if
you can't find it in your school, you can find it on different
classes.
You know people offer classes.
You know you do too, don't you?
You offer classes?
I do, yeah.
Yeah, I do too.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
A lot of us do, but it's not mainstream.
Someone needs to find you,right.
Someone needs to have theinterest or they want to work on
themselves or they want tolearn in order for them to come
and find you.
I want spirituality to be likethere, right, exactly.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
You can find it, but I think it'll get there with
Pluto and Aquarius.
It might take a couple years,yeah, but I can't wait, I can't
wait, I can't either you knowhow you have like Pilates studio
in every corner or yoga studiorecord.
Speaker 3 (51:24):
why don't have a spiritual center in every corner
exactly yeah, that would besomething and normalize, and
normalize having your ownspiritual coach you know how you
have your own gp, your ownpractitioner, your own dentist
right dentist therapist your own, whatever.
Have your own spiritual coach.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
Yeah make it mainstream.
Exactly, I agree.
I think nancy reagan had apsychic in the white house, so I
mean this isn't unusual youknow right?
Speaker 3 (51:57):
no, it's not, but they just don't talk.
That's the thing.
A lot of politicians, a lot ofthese powerful people and these
world leaders do consultastrologers or readers or
whoever right, but they don'tcome out and say it.
So people don't know it.
So it's not.
You know, it's not mainstream.
What?
(52:17):
Why not come out and say it?
My astrologer advised me thatmaybe inauguration shouldn't
happen on the 20th.
Maybe we should wait two daysbecause the moon is whatever.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
You know what I mean, I do, I agree, I definitely
agree with you.
And then my last question foryou, natalie, unless you want to
add anything else before we go,I probably will.
You know me Once I start, Idon't stop.
No, that's okay.
But my last question I alwaysask every guest is our tagline
(52:46):
for the electric spirit podcastis igniting your spirit.
How do you ignite your spirit?
Good, question.
Speaker 3 (52:54):
Oh, I love that question.
How do I ignite my spirit?
I love that question.
How do I ignite my spirit?
By keeping I try to keep ascentered as possible and I
meditate as well, which helps,which really helps.
So I what ignites me is when Ifeel balanced and I feel at
(53:19):
peace, is when I feel balancedand I feel at peace.
And life is difficult.
Life is hard.
Every day is a struggle becausethere's I have kids, you have
kids, we work, we do a ton ofthings and a lot of times it's
hard.
But you know what ignites me?
It's my connection to spirit.
As weird as it sounds, you know, it's just it, it.
(53:44):
I look forward to connecting tomy guides and that keeps me in
check and that reminds me thatI'm here, I'm on a mission, this
is the journey and the paththat I chose from for myself and
I shouldn't you know, Ishouldn't sort of like focus on
the negative and I should makethe best of it so that really
ignites me and gives mehappiness and I feel more
(54:06):
centered and balanced.
I hope that answers that.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
Yeah, it does.
I think that's amazing.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (54:13):
Yeah, thank you Because you know, when we were
younger, when I was younger,material things ignited my
happiness.
Or you know my ego, my ego, butnow it's none of that.
You know, sometimes I seemyself.
I go online, I might.
I love online shop.
I hate going to the shops forthe reason that you mentioned
before.
I can't with the low vibrationsand the EMF and all that, I
(54:35):
just can't.
Speaker 2 (54:36):
Yeah, I can't.
I don't enjoy either it's hard.
Speaker 3 (54:38):
It's hard, so I online shop, and lately the last
couple of years.
I'm not going to lie, I'm not.
I have a Virgo rising, so so doI.
Yeah, me too.
Save money, okay, I cannot savemoney.
What I earn, what money I'vegot, I spend it on other people,
myself, on animals or whatever.
And the last few years I'm justthe opposite.
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I'm like okay, there's noreason to spend money on
material things, because that'snot what makes me happy.
It's my connection to thisworld and the spiritual world
that makes me happy.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
I'm glad you're doing this we do.
We're both frugal risings.
We're Gen Xers.
Speaker 3 (55:21):
We're're gen xers on the cusp, on the cusp, on the
cusp?
Speaker 2 (55:25):
yeah, right on the cusp.
Oh, what were you gonna ask me?
I'm sorry, uh, what was I gonnaask you?
Oh, my moon is, or?
Yes, I forgot your mooncapricorn, capricorn, that's
right.
That's probably why I don'tlike to spend money like I save
my daughter is a virgo and she'slike you.
Speaker 3 (55:44):
My daughter's a virgo .
She's got all this cash.
Okay, because everyone givesher money.
We're pocket money.
She does not spend like if.
If I sometimes I tell her if Idon't have cash in the house and
I'll say you know, you know, ifyou need to buy something from
the school cafeteria, buy itwith your own money, I'll give
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it to you tomorrow.
She doesn't.
She doesn't trust that I'mgoing to give her the money back
.
Let's spend to save her life,yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:12):
Wow, that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (56:15):
I just realized you're a Capricorn moon, which
means you can finally breathewith Pluto yeah, not in the rest
of the moon anymore.
Speaker 2 (56:23):
Yeah, exactly Feels good.
Thank you, it was great havingyou here, natalie.
Speaker 3 (56:28):
It was, it was a pleasure, it was amazing, it was
a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (56:31):
And I'd love to have you come back with it's Dolly.
Dolly is the one that was takenby the okay.
Okay, and preston is an authorwho's written many books.
His name is preston dennett,and so I'm going to arrange so
all four of us can have aconversation early next year.
Yeah, that would be fun, sostay tuned, listeners.
Speaker 3 (56:51):
Yeah thank you, and if you can just like send me a
link of his book, I would loveto read it before we do that,
because I would love to get oh,okay, perfect, oh for Perfect,
oh for sure.
Thank you for having me, jamie.
This was oh you're welcome.
Anytime, I'll be back.
You're coming back to mychannel for sure.
Speaker 2 (57:06):
Oh, I'd love to.
Everyone would love to as well.
Oh, I loved being on.
It was an honor and I lookforward to the future with you
because, soul sisters, there'ssome kind of connection here
that we have.
Speaker 3 (57:23):
Yeah, there is yeah and girl power, so this is
awesome 100%.
Speaker 2 (57:25):
Yeah, thank you.
Thank you, we'll see you nextyear.
Speaker 1 (57:28):
Thank you for listening to the Electric Spirit
Podcast with your host, psychicmedium Jamie Lynn.
Find us on Instagram atElectric Spirit Podcast.
Be sure to join us next time,recharging your energy,
recharging your magic,recharging your spirit.
Until then, ciao.
Welcome to the Electric Spirit Podcast where we
dive into all thingsmetaphysical and fun.
Here's your host, psychicMedium, jamie Lynn.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Welcome to the Electric Spirit Podcast.
I'm your host, psychic MediumJamie Lynn.
Today we're thrilled to haveNatalie, aka Femme Tarot, an
internationally renowned psychicmedium and spiritual coach who
has touched countless lives withher intuitive and compassionate
approach.
Known for her ability toconnect with the spirit realm,
(00:40):
natalie has spent years honingher skills in tarot, astrology
and mediumship, guiding clientstoward deeper self-understanding
and spiritual growth.
In addition to her one-on-onereadings, natalie is the creator
of Femme Tarot, a popularYouTube channel where she shares
her gifts and wisdom with aglobal audience.
(01:01):
Through her channel, shecombines tarot, astrology and
spiritual guidance to helppeople navigate life's
challenges with clarity andconfidence.
Natalie's work goes beyondproviding answers she creates a
healing space that empowersindividuals to confront
struggles, heal past wounds andstep into their true potential.
(01:24):
Today, she's here to share herjourney and insights, and we
can't wait to dive into thisconversation.
Hi, natalie, I'm so glad you'rehere on the Electric Spirit
podcast.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I'm very excited, very happy and very honored to
be here.
Jamie, I love what you do andwe met I mean, for those who are
listening and don't know it,you were on my channel a couple
of weeks ago and I just lovedhaving you on.
The energy was amazing, I think, when two and we have similar
(01:59):
abilities as well.
Yeah, and I do find that whenwe come together, like the
energy around us is just I agree, and your, your YouTube channel
is called Femme Tarot, right?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, I don't know if you want to tell people about
your background and how all thisstarted, cause you did say you
were in, were in the corporatecloset, and when you named
yourself Femme Tarot, you werestill working in corporate
America.
Right, you was, I was amarketing exec for years.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Well, I started in the music industry, so I worked
at Sony, sony Music and then,yeah, I have a whole different
life before Femme Tarot, whichis a book in its own.
There's so much.
So I started off at Sony Music.
Being in, you know, I was inthe marketing department and
(02:49):
then I left Sony Music and thenI went, I did radio in England,
almost got into MTV that's adifferent story for a different
day.
Anyways, I got into fastforward.
A few years later, after Sony,I started working for tech
companies and startups that werein the tech industry, as a
(03:13):
marketing exec.
I love marketing.
I still do to this day.
I mean, we still have to do alot of marketing for our
spiritual business and it helpswhen you have the background.
But I was just feeling so wornout, you know, I was just
feeling I wasn't inspired by myjob etc.
Um, I was born with my gifts,with my abilities, but I had
(03:36):
blocked them when I was in my20s because, you know, in your
20s you're like student, you'reat college or university, you
just want to party, you justdon't want to deal with spirit
and souls that come through andother people's issues.
You're self-centered Exactly,and I was.
But you know, you cannot blockit for long, because you were
(03:58):
born with these abilities for areason and I always knew that my
calling was to help people.
I knew I was a healer At somepoint when I was 28, 29,.
I'm a marketing exec and Istarted a psychology course on
the side because I thought thatwas my way of helping people.
(04:21):
And suddenly, boom, I had myspiritual awakening and my
guides came forward and they'relike what psychology?
What are you talking about,girl?
You've got to start your ownspiritual business.
You have to put yourself outthere, reach as many people as
you can and help them, becausethe world right now, the
collective, is going through amajor transformation and
(04:44):
transition and we need more ofyou Hands on deck.
So this is what happened.
So I was working, so I startedmy spiritual business, I started
giving other people readings,and this was I wasn't
advertising, so this was throughmy friends and family and
through recommendations, etcetera.
(05:05):
And I was doing that in theevening, so during the day I
would go to work you know, be a,an executive and then in the
evenings I had young kids, so Iwould put them to bed and then I
was on zoom.
You know, I was on zoom givingreadings, and then I did that
for a few years and then in theend I said this is what I should
(05:27):
be doing.
So I went to my boss, I gave mynotice.
He refused to let me go.
So that was stressful, jamie.
That was stressful because Iwas asking him.
I went there with my you know,with my.
There's a paper here in Europe.
I went there with my you know,with my.
There's a paper here in Europe.
They have to sign a paper whichsays that you know, you're
(05:49):
relieved from your position.
And he was refusing to sign it.
He was like how much money doyou want?
What do you want?
You know, I'll get you a car,I'll get you this.
I'm like it's not about themoney.
And he refused.
And then in the end he let meleave because I was like listen,
we'll compromise.
Ok, this is what we're going todo.
If you need me, I'll act as aconsultant.
(06:12):
So whenever you need me, I'llact as a consultant.
And I did for a few months.
And then so, during that time,when I had already decided to
leave my job and leave thecorporate world, I decided to
start my YouTube channel and Iwas like, why am I going to name
my YouTube channel?
And I don't want peopleGoogling my name.
(06:35):
And then what if my boss seesit?
Or what someone else sees itone of my clients, whatever?
I was just worried about thatbecause back then it wasn't as
it is now.
So spiritualism is now becomingmore mainstream, it's not taboo
anymore.
So I was thinking I'm like,okay, what should I name my
(06:55):
channel?
And, having the marketingbackground, I knew that I had to
use the word tarot or psychicor intuitive or whatever it is
that you're doing on yourchannel.
Name, right, because that'seasier for the algorithm to pick
it up, because then thealgorithm is able to categorize
your channel depending on thetype of content.
(07:18):
So I was like, okay, and it wasa full moon.
It was a full moon and I wassitting there on my computer and
I looked at the moon and I'mlike the moon, the feminine.
I started working with the wordmoon and started brainstorming
and then I thought, well, it'sall about the divine feminine.
(07:39):
We're entering a time where thefeminine energy is going to
overrule.
Let's say everything else.
So that's how the name cameabout femme, and it's don't
confuse it with femme.
For people listening orwatching, it's not LGBTQ.
(08:01):
Some people get confusedbecause they call the call the
femmes.
Are, you know, women who likewomen?
Oh, okay, and then they callthemselves that, if I'm not
mistaken.
Okay, yeah, but it was out ofthe French word, because I'm
also French, my first languageis bilingual, so French English.
(08:23):
So it's femme.
It's femme is a woman.
I love that long-winded answer,but there, it is.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
No, I like it.
It's awesome.
But were you, were youinitially drawn to tarot or just
you?
You do everything you dopsychic medium like you.
Yeah, exactly so, you're justlike me.
Yes, we are the Swiss knives.
Yeah, exactly, we sure are.
That's great.
I love the name too.
It's really cool.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Yeah, yeah, I started off so how it all started with
tarot and all that was like whenI was around 10, 11, because I
was seeing, you know, spiritsand ghosts and energies and I
could read people and I couldread people's auras.
So I was just confused.
But you know, um, I was raisedin a Catholic family so my mom
(09:12):
was totally against tarot oranything of that divination
tools in general, so I wasn'tallowed to have them.
Um, so I started kind ofplaying around with playing
cards heart have card tommencywhich I learned how to read.
I started like I can do I cando fortune, like gypsy readings
as well, because that's what Ilearned back then, because I was
(09:34):
not allowed tarot.
But I also got into astrologybecause I felt that I was going
to get the answers of theknowledge that I was receiving.
I didn't even know where, what,how.
So I'm like I'm going to findthose answers in astrology.
So I have to learn astrology soI can learn my, so I can learn
(09:55):
how to read my chart andunderstand who I am, because I
didn't know who I was.
So that's how I got.
I got into astrology and then acouple of years later I was a
friend of mine invited me overto their summer house.
They had a beach house and hercousin came in, who was like 10
years older than us, and she hada tarot deck with her.
(10:15):
She's like girls, come on, sitaround the table, let's throw
the cards Back.
Then all we cared about wasboys.
What is this boy thing, or doeshe fancy me, do you think?
Those were the questions.
And she started reading me andthen she looked at me, straight
in my eyes, and she said you'vegot to learn tarot because
you've got an incredible gift,an incredible light.
(10:39):
You're very, very gifted.
And I was like, hmm, you know,but I hadn't shared with anyone
except my mom when I was littleabout everything that I was
seeing and experiencing.
Yeah, and she taught me tarotand that's how I got into it.
And then I went to boardingschool and then a boarding
school I was reading tarot forall the girls in my, in my, yeah
(11:01):
, in my house.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
So that's amazing.
Wow, that is really cool.
I really think that's awesomeyeah and yeah, and your
channel's fun too.
I love your channels.
People can check it all.
I'll have all the links in thedescription.
Yeah, and on your youtubechannel it is called femtaro,
(11:22):
like you mentioned.
Um, you often do readings aboutpop culture.
I've noticed that you just didone on the Royals.
What have been your favoritetopics to explore?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
In general, I would say that's a good question.
I like pop culture because Ilike pop culture myself and
since I have this background infilm and music et cetera, you
know there's an extra layer toit.
If you will, I love the popculture ones because I do
believe that they answer a lotof our questions and I find them
(11:57):
fun, except for all the youknow what the ditty stuff,
because I've done severalreadings on those and those are
heavy and dark.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
So those are not and dark so those are not enjoyable.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Um, I love those.
So that's how I got into it.
But, to be honest, I got intothe housewives before I got into
pop culture.
So I was the first, let's justsay, tarot reader, by almost six
years ago, who started readingthe housewives and what was
(12:27):
going on.
Um, and because I thought itwas fun, I was like I, I love
reality tv.
I was watching a lot ofhousewives back then and I was
like, okay, so I've gotquestions, I'm gonna answer them
myself, you know, I'm gonnathrow the cards.
And then I, I started doingthose readings on YouTube.
Then it kind of revolved intopop culture, true crime I love
(12:51):
doing true crime yeah, truecrime is awesome.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
What's one of your favorite true crime readings?
Or even if you didn't do areading on it, what, what
fascinating?
What case is fascinating withtrue crime?
I'm just curious.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Interesting.
So I would say the MadeleineMcCann one, mccann, no, mccann,
sorry, mccann yeah, because thatwas huge and me being half
British and being raised inEngland, you know it just hit
home and like it was likebecause this was a British
(13:26):
couple that went to Portugal,they, their child, was abducted,
slash question mark whathappened, and there's a lot of
speculation and a lot oftheories going around.
So that was definitely a verytouching channel that I did Very
, very touching.
(13:46):
The good news is that what Iwas told by Madeline herself was
that eventually we will have,we will get all the answers and
it's coming soon, and I dobelieve it's going to be in 2025
where, yeah, new evidence andmore concrete evidence is going
to come out regarding whathappened to Madeline.
(14:07):
So definitely that one.
Now there's another one thatI'm going to do soon because so
many people have asked for thisone.
It's the Delphi murders.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Oh, I don't know a whole lot about that.
I'll have to look into that one.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I didn't know anything about it until people
started saying you've got toread on the Delphi murders.
There's something fishy aboutit.
There's so much by this man whoseems to be guilty, but now the
(14:47):
evidence, though, shows someoneelse, so it's a little bit
confusing.
I haven't looked into it yet,but I will a little bit, I don't
want to go too into it before Ido readings.
The less I know, the better.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Exactly, that is really cool.
Yeah, I love true crime too.
I love have you done it?
True crime reading, not onyoutube, but I would like to.
I would like to do.
I did do one myself on themenendez brothers oh, yeah, that
was true I just did it myselfin private and the empress and
(15:20):
emperor came up in the because Idid the celtic cross.
So that's mom and dad, right,unalived them.
And are they unalived at them?
And the way the spread went, itlooks like they're going to be
released you know it's funny.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
You say that because the first reading I did on
youtube I was like I didn't seeit.
This was three, three monthsago.
Two months ago Now I went on tosomeone else's channel because
they asked me on and they askedme about it.
So I pulled the cards again andI saw Lyle is the young one,
right, the younger one.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
He's older.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Oh sorry.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Eric.
Eric is the younger one, yeah,he has blue eyes.
I think the blue eyed guy.
Younger one, yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
He has blue eyes.
I think the blue eyed guysyounger, yeah, I don't remember.
Anyways, I saw the younger one.
The younger brother is the onewho's going to be released first
.
So, yeah, wow, so it.
It really coincides with whatyou're you're reading show you.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
So yeah, that's interesting.
I think he's a sagittarius.
I don't know what the otherbrother is, I forgot, but he
came up in the reading too asthe temperance.
Wow, yeah, I think eric isactually.
Um, I feel psychically he'snicer than Lyle.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
He has a heart.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
He feels a lot more than the older brother.
I feel he's sensitive.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
You're right about that.
I don't know.
Well, maybe the brother,because of all the PTSD and
everything that he's beenthrough, he's well-guarded, or
he's just, you know, sure, addedprotective layer.
Let's just say, um, yeah, but Ihope, I hope the best for those
.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Um, they're not boys anymore, the men, because, yeah,
it's horrific it really is, andthen the interesting thing too,
and then we'll move on tosomething else.
I don't want to say yeah, butum, there is a menudo connection
, because I used to like menudowhen I was younger, and so one
of the boys from the or guyshe's not a boy anymore, he's a
(17:28):
man from menudo, the, the boysband was molested by the father,
by eric and lyle's dad.
Oh, oh, wow, this is on Netflix.
So he was actually talkingabout it, because their dad did
something in the music industryand he did something with Menudo
(17:51):
.
Oh, interesting.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I didn't know that it's terrible, it's terrible.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I don't know right, yeah, so that like yeah, so they
think that you know now that,that, uh, you know former boy
band member came out it's andsaid that their father molested
him, or I don't know if I cansay that on YouTube he
mistreated, mistreated, right,he mistreated him, and so it's
(18:22):
like you know, I think peopleare starting to believe these
brothers now.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Yeah, listen, I worked in the music industry.
I wasn't well.
I've had my fair share of stuffthat happened to me.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Oh yeah, well, I used to hang out at the house of
blues, at the private clubupstairs.
I've had somebody.
A lot of weird things happen,believe me.
I was like shocked, so I don'teven want to say who they are.
They're like people, peopleknow it's like they're famous
yeah yeah, yeah, me neither.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
No, we'll protect you for now, for now, exactly, for
now, exactly.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
For now, right, and I just was going to ask you, when
you do a reading, what are yourfavorite types of reads Like,
what is your favorite type ofreading?
Psychic mediumship, astrology,or do you combine all of them?
Or I'm just curious.
Or tarot, good question.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I don't know, I don't know about you, you but I go
through phases or I go throughlike these, like, uh, for
instance, now I'm super, I lovedoing these past life readings.
I do past life readings, I usetarot for them, I use my guides
uh, those are super fun andexciting and I you can tell that
the querent or the client gets.
(19:40):
You can see like their eyeskind of like popping out of
their head because they're likewhoa, they can really relate to
stuff that is coming throughfrom the past life, to things
that they're going through nowphobias, people, circumstances,
things like that or even likewhy they have issues with
(20:01):
relationships in this life.
For instance, it could beconnected to a past life.
So, but to answer your question, I love tarot.
I will always love tarot.
I don't need them to read, butI love using them in readings.
But I would say my favoritesare mediumship oh, interesting,
(20:22):
oh, that's good.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
How are you?
Wow, um, I like psychic, I liketarot.
Um, sometimes I've noticed thatpeople say, well, you have to
use, like they get mad if youuse tools.
But it's, I don't really see itthat way.
I've heard them.
They don't talk to me aboutthat, but I've heard, I've read
things like comments that peoplehave made about other psychics,
(20:45):
why, you know, nobody shoulduse tools.
Or other psychics say, well, Idon't use tools, I just use my
natural ability.
But it's like you know, I thinkTero can give you some, maybe
things that you might miss.
That's what I feel.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
I agree.
Yeah, I agree, it really helpsus.
I agree with what you're sayingbecause it really sort of puts,
because people don't realizethe way that we work.
It's not like we sit here andwe just hear something and then
repeat it.
We get different messages.
It's very fragmented howmessages come through and we
(21:21):
have to make sense of it.
So, depending if you'reclairvoyant, clairsentient,
whatever it is, whatever clairyou have, you get.
So Jamie and I, for instance,we both have very similar.
So we're all of it.
So we feel, we hear, we seeit's all of it.
So you have to hone everythingtogether, you have to bring
(21:42):
everything together and tarotreally helps, kind of like keeps
the reading organized.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
It does.
I believe that too.
Yeah, I usually just like to dopsychic, I like to do
mediumship.
I noticed like with mymediumship I start to feel
things that the dead person wasfeeling when they were here.
So it's like I think one ladyhad cataracts and I got a bunch
of floaters in my eyes and Ican't keep doing this.
(22:11):
It's like too much.
I enjoy doing mediumship, but Ijust sometimes I just have to
kind of pace it.
You know what I mean.
Like I do like it.
Yeah, I really like astrologyand psychic and yeah, I do like
medium, but yeah, it's adifferent it's different because
the the what we were talkingabout this on my channel the
(22:35):
other day.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
So when you have to flip from psychic to mediumship
in a reading, let's say you havea client and then you give them
a reading, a psychic reading,and then they're like okay, can
you connect me to my dad or mylate husband?
It takes a lot, it's not likeboom, it starts.
We have to change our frequencyin order for us to open the
(22:59):
curtain you know the veil andallow for spirit to come through
.
And I agree with you, it'sexhausting.
A psychic reading is not asexhausting as a spiritual
reading.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
And it also follows you after the reading.
So I don't know about you, buta lot of times you know, once
I'm done with a client and areading and then you know I
close the circle and I do all my.
You know, I cleanse my deck andcleanse my space and whatnot.
I still, sometimes I still havethat heavy feeling of that
(23:34):
reading and it can follow me fora few hours.
So it's a lot, I agree.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, I've had that happen, yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
I've had an attachment through a reading
Like this guy was so angry.
He was this narcissist who wasabusive to his wife and his wife
wanted closure.
So she came to me even thoughhe had passed and he was mean,
you know he was mean.
He came in and he was like, oh,like a bully, and I was like,
yeah, dude, you don't have abody.
(24:04):
Like, don't you try tointimidate me, you stay in your
corner.
And I literally put him ontimeout, like I would, I would
bring in her grandma.
Her grandma came in other peopleand he was in there and I was
like, and I told him my clientand like, like he's here, but I
don't like the, the energy hebrings forward.
And he was, she was Jamie, shewas shaking, just the thought
(24:26):
that, even like her late husband, who was abusive, was in the
room in spirit form, not eventhe same room as me, because
that was zoom.
Um, she was frightened and um,this guy, my gosh goal.
After the reading, he wasfollowing me around the house
and he was screaming in my earand he was playing and I was
(24:46):
just, I was so annoyed, oh, mygosh.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
It doesn't happen often, but it happens.
Do you have to tell him toleave?
I do.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
But this normally, as you know, they do listen
because they don't have freewill.
You can tell them.
You know you have to beassertive and say you're not
welcome here, you're done, youleave.
Yeah, but he was refusing to.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
So I had to do some right, some light work I had to
be some light work to get rid ofhim, and I did in the end,
definitely she felt lighter aswell.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
she emailed me the day after the reading and she
said that she felt lighter, andI do believe that the fact that
I did some light work on him,she she felt she started feeling
lighter about.
Maybe he was like always, Idon't know he was a bully in
life.
He was a bully in the afterlifetoo.
Wow, because he's like almostlike stalking her, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, he's weird bully in the afterlife too,
because she's like almost likestalking her, you know, yeah
that's terrible, geez.
Yeah, you never know who we'regonna have to deal with.
Huh, oh, yeah, I mean have you?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
you know I've, I want to.
I'm sorry, I'm asking you no, Ithink this is fun I, I love it
because I could talk to you allday.
As you know, we we've got yeah,we have a cool connection would
you channel or do a reading, amediumship reading, on one of
the serial killers?
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Bundy, I was just thinking about Ted Bundy.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
I would do him.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I would do a reading on him.
I'm not afraid of these people,I don't know why.
I mean in real.
If he came to me in real life Imight be afraid, but not in
spirit.
It's interesting my friend, hermother, was picked up by ted
bundy and she escaped.
Yes, oh, my god, yeah, and thisis um.
(26:39):
After she escaped and hestopped taking the door, he took
the doorknobs off the doors, soif they were in the car they
couldn't get out.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, wow, my mom's a therapist and she had a client
and he escaped Jeffrey Dahmer.
A client and he escaped JeffreyDahmer.
Wow, I didn't know that.
Yeah Well, I'm from Michiganoriginally and Dahmer was in
Indiana, so that was right nextto Michigan.
And I remember when Dahmer wason the loose I'm thinking, oh my
gosh, I hope he doesn't comeafter me.
(27:12):
And the guy I was dating at thetime, he's like, well, no, he
just goes after guys.
You know.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
I'm like, oh okay he's like well, no, he just goes
after guys.
You know, I'm like oh, okay, sothis is one time that we're
happy to be women.
Oh, you know, when we're aroundstrangers, oh right exactly I
would do jeffrey or not jeffreydammer?
Speaker 2 (27:28):
uh, I would do ted bunny.
Yeah, what about you?
I would do it.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
You know, if there was interest in it, I would
would do it publicly?
I guess I would too, but I knowthat can be triggering for
people.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Sure, I understand.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Right, but then again you can always add a disclaimer
because people or women havebeen, you know, abused or
experienced that these types ofreadings can be triggering Right
.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
And that's not today.
Maybe we should do a candy,maybe one.
What was that?
Speaker 3 (28:02):
oh yeah.
Or actually we can do one whereI do dommer and you do bundy.
Oh, that would be cool.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, I would love that and you know, it's not that
I think this guy is cool oranything.
I just have a bachelor's inpsychology and I have a phd
psychology.
So from that standpoint I thinkyou're right.
I think these people areinteresting.
You know, interestingpsychologically to figure them
out.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Sociologically, psychopathologically as well.
All of it, I agree with you.
I think it's let's do that.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Yeah, let's do that.
That would be reallyinteresting.
We'll really have to cleanseourself before and after.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Oh my gosh It'll be okay, you don't know what I went
through after I did the reading.
I did a reading on Diddy, oh,and I kind of like read his mom,
okay.
So I've had some dealings withhis mom in the past.
I've mentioned this on YouTubebecause, again, one of my many
(29:05):
lives and many professions,before I became a professional
reader was that.
So my brother and I and myhusband started a yacht company.
Oh yeah, which means that Ithink I mentioned this before
where what we did was so wemanaged super yachts for clients
(29:29):
, insured them, charted them out, all of it.
You know, wow, a full package.
It was like a boutique company.
So the company still exists.
It's huge now, um, and mystepbrother is just, you know,
he's got it.
We left, my husband and I leftbecause, yeah, it just wasn't
for us at the time anyways, andwe, we moved to austria
(29:52):
afterwards, soon after, butanyways, the point is that, um,
we charted one of our yachts tothe diddler, to Diddy, oh, wow,
and yeah, and his mom was incharge of everything.
She went through the chartercontract, she went through the
(30:12):
specs, because you always sendsort of like a questionnaire to
your clients, to the charterswhat are your lights, your wands
?
And then you inform the crew,right, so they can give them
top-notch service.
And, um, oh, my God, I rememberthat captain of the boat would
call me every night, every day,usually late at night,
(30:34):
complaining about them becausethey wouldn't go to sleep before
they were awake till three inthe morning, four in the morning
, parties, drugs, all of itwomen, men in and out.
It was a nightmare in thedestroyed, uh, very expensive
table in the um, yeah, on theupper deck.
(30:58):
So what?
Where I'm going with this isthat his mom, diddy's mom, is
very much a uh force behind himand she dabbles in dark arts and
, yeah, voodoo, witchcraft, darkarts, all of it.
(31:18):
And when I did that reading shecame through, her energy came
through and I could feel thatshe was trying to protect like
she had.
She had put a shield so Iwouldn't be able to read him or
her and me being I'm stubborn,so I was like I don't care, I'll
, you know, I'll keep digging.
I need to see what's going oneverything.
And I got sick, jamie, I waspsych keep digging.
I need to see what's going on.
(31:38):
Everything.
And I got sick, Jamie.
I was psychically attacked.
I was sick for three days afterthat.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Oh my goodness, Wow Is she still alive his mom.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Oh yeah, very much alive.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I figured that, I felt that.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
I just wanted to make sure.
Yeah, she's very much alive,very much in charge of his
finances right now.
Everything she's always being,uh, the one in charge.
So, and did you know aboutdiddy's?
I don't know why we're talkingabout him, but did you know that
he had tat?
he has a huge tattoo on his backof the high priestess of voodoo
no, what he's done is he oh,it's great, I have it on my
(32:19):
phone um, and what he's done ishe's taken out her face and he's
replaced the face of the highpriestess with his mom's.
That's all I'm going to say sothat's why, going back to what
you said about cleansing andprotecting, it's paramount that
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you take protective measures.
People like that.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Right, it's interesting you're saying that,
because every time I wanted tolisten about it or maybe read
about it, I felt sick about it.
So not just because of thefreak-offs, but I think it's the
dark energy that you'redescribing.
It makes sense.
Yes, I just have a question.
Do you think his mother I feellike his mother knew about the
(33:07):
freak-offs?
Do you feel that?
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
A hundred percent.
She knew of that.
She's an instigator, I mean,she's very much part of it, but
the problem is that I don't know.
The problem is she's like thepimp you know, she's the one,
you know she's the one that kindof like makes sure that her son
(33:36):
has everything that he needs oranything that he asks for,
makes sure that she protects him, that no one has access to him
unless they go through her first.
So oh yeah, oh, she knows oh,interesting.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Now I do have a question.
Um, he was friends with hesupposedly was friends with
biggie smaller.
He says he was um, I feel thatbiggie was a nice person.
Do you feel he was involved inthis?
I'm just curious.
Oh, you do?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
if did he was involved.
No, no, I'm like, yeah, he is anice person, because I
channeled him oh okay, because Idid um, I did a reading, I did
a video on Biggie and Tupac and,uh, I channeled Biggie but
Tupac I couldn't like I couldfeel his energy, but he wasn't
accessible to me.
So I feel he's getting ready toreincarnate, so oh interesting
(34:27):
my goodness it was no way for meto access him so I could get
like things, like my guides werehelping me, but I wasn't really
connecting to his Biggie thoughbig teddy bear, and all I can
say is, from what Diddy told meand showed me, was that
allegedly we have to use theseterms, unfortunately Allegedly
(34:52):
yes, diddy had very muchsomething to do with that.
He wasn't the one who did itDid he or did he?
Did he?
But there was a woman.
There was a woman.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
And now the question is was that his wife, faith
mistress, was working with Diddy, or was yeah, or helping Diddy
(35:34):
get what he wanted from, or doyou think it just was just his
karma or all this?
Speaker 3 (35:40):
It's been going on for a while, for 30 years 30
years, Right, You've beenthrough Pluto and Sag, Pluto in
Capricorn and finally, as wereach Pluto and Aquarius, it all
comes to light.
So, yeah, Aquarius is very muchabout you know better than I do
(36:03):
, actually, that you know thisis.
It's about helping thecollective.
This is a time where anythingthat was hidden in the shadows
is coming to light, and it'swhat the collective does does
about it, because Aquariusenergy is about bringing
everyone together.
It's about working together.
It's about the collective.
It's about progressive thinking,about getting rid of anything
that anchors down or weighs usdown, and darkness definitely
(36:26):
weighs us down and definitelyinfluences in a negative way our
lives before it gets better.
I'm not going to lie, but weare heading towards what I call
the golden era, where things aregoing to be massively more
light and people are going to bemore connected.
(36:50):
We're going to be more kind ofhuman beings are going to be
more connected to each other andworking each other.
So, yeah, timing is everythingand I do believe the timing is
because of these changes, thiscollective shift, energy shift
that's happening right now.
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (37:10):
I think so too, Astrologically with Pluto and
Aquarius.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Just in general.
How do you think this is going?
Speaker 2 (37:19):
to pan out.
I feel like people are going toget their comeuppances.
I feel like there's peopleright now really rich people,
billionaires trying to buy theirway into things, and I feel
like that's going to end.
I feel like people are going totake their power back.
I feel like what we're seeingnow, especially in the United
States.
It might be going one way, butI think it's going to do a
(37:40):
complete turn and I think peopleare going to be shocked the way
things go.
Yeah, that's my opinion.
I really believe that.
Yeah, I think I think all thesepeople that you know we have a
couple of people at the top thatare in charge I think that's
all going to change.
I think the structures aregoing to change.
I think the structures aregoing to change.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
I agree a hundred percent.
And what?
Um?
It is not only the structure, Ialso believe that um.
So if I'm going to quote thehousewives, for some reason, but
the real housewives, so if thisera that we're stepping into
Pluto and Aquarius had a tagline, if it was a housewife and had
(38:24):
a tagline, it would be expectthe unexpected.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
I love that.
I think that's how I see itExpect the unexpected with a
cherry on top With a cherry ontop for the community.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
True, I thought I was going to.
You said cherry on top and Iwas gonna say cherry on top is
gonna be the aliens or theextraterrestrial.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
What are your thoughts on that?
Oh my gosh, the aliens andextra ets, oh, I believe it.
I've had people on my on thepodcast that you know were taken
or whatever they were.
I forget what they they call it.
She doesn't want to say that.
She says taken because shedoesn't say cause she likes them
.
I guess they're friends.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
The one that was on my podcast Interesting you know
what I've heard, a lot of peoplewho were taken to use the
correct term right feel aconnection to them.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Yeah, that's how she was and I had preston done it on
.
He was actually on thekardashians.
That's how I knew about him andI reached out to him.
He's an author and his friendwas the one that was taken.
He wrote a book on her.
So I believe there are aliens.
I think the government's hidingthem from us for some reason.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Yeah, I believe so too.
I believe that the age ofAquarius or the Aquarius.
I do believe that we will soon,the world will see them.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Oh, I do too.
So in this era, in the next 20years, probably before 20 years,
I feel like we're gonna, we'regonna see them or have
connections with, moreconnections with them I agree
and I can't wait me beingaquarius, I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
I can't wait right, because I mean, it's, at the end
of the day, enough with all thesmoke and mirrors and the lies
and all of it.
Let's really live to our.
That's why we're here, that'swhy we're on earth.
We're here to experience lifeon this planet to the full, to
(40:37):
the maximum in a way, and wedon't because we cannibalize our
own selves.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Exactly Right, I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
And I believe, if aliens are, you know, they start
mingling and they're around us,then it's going to bring a nice
little balance and this iswhat's going to bring humanity
closer to each other.
This is what I believe is goingto bring man closer to each
other, because we what I believeis going to bring man closer to
each other, because we aregoing to be like, hey, listen,
(41:06):
we're not alone.
What have we been doing?
You know, what have we beendoing?
Why we, why, why have we beenfighting against each other or
being, you know, mistreatingeach other, instead of coming
together with those aliens oragainst them?
Whatever it is, I don't know, Icannot predict, but I think
it's, I think it's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
I can't, I do too Well, yeah, I think they're on a
higher vibration.
I don't think they're scary, Ithink they're all about love,
and it sounds like from thepeople I've interviewed that
they don't care about you knowmaterial things.
It's just about you know, likeyou said, you're living the life
on the planet and enjoyingyourself.
(41:46):
It's not about who has what orthe haves and have nots.
You know it's different.
Like I said, I think they're ona higher vibration.
I heard that they could live athousand years, like they have a
really long lifespan oh wow.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
But they do.
Here's the thing, though.
So they they have.
Like do they have organs andstuff?
Like, do they have I?
Speaker 2 (42:11):
don't know, I don't know.
Actually, it's so weird I'llhave to.
That was one question I didn'task them.
That is a very interestingquestion.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Maybe you should bring them back, I will.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Yeah, maybe I could.
As a matter of fact, I couldbring both of them back and, if
you want to come, all four of uscould have a conversation.
I would love that.
I have a ton of questions.
Okay, Because Preston questions.
Okay, because preston justwrote a book.
So, uh, I'll arrange it for thenew year if you want to come.
Awesome, that would be fun.
Thank you, I would.
Yeah that.
I mean they're really reputable.
(42:47):
That, like I said, he was onkeeping up with the kardashians.
Chloe kardashian called themwhen she was looking for ufos
with her boyfriend at the time.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
So yeah, he's really nice time.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
So, yeah, he's really nice.
Yeah, I knew what thatconnection.
Yeah, yeah, thank you, that'llbe, yeah, lovely.
Yeah, I don't know if you wantto share anything about 2025.
Are you getting any vibes aboutwhat, maybe what we can expect?
I don't know if you want toshare it or if you get any
downloads from spirit.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
I got a few, I got I haven't gotten any because I
haven't had the time to kind ofsit down and see, but I have a
few.
So one of them is not so for ifanyone's in Europe.
For instance, a big one that Igot was that things are going to
get worse in Europe when itcomes to public unrest, when it
(43:38):
comes to vandalism, anarchy.
Of course, everything is goingto the far right right now in
Europe.
I do believe I also see somekind of I I was shown some kind
of terrorist attack happening inParis.
I don't want to panic anyone,but I saw that I don't have any
more information around that.
(43:59):
I don't want to panic anyone,but I saw that I don't have any
more information around that.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
I was getting that too.
I didn't mean to interrupt, Iwas picking up on that too.
I got that a few times.
It's interesting you're sayingthat.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
Yeah, and I think this is going.
I believe that terroristincident that's going to happen
in Paris is going to trigger asnowball effect in Europe,
including immigrants andrefugees and closing of the
borders.
I do believe that 2025 is goingto mark the beginning of the
(44:34):
end of the EU.
Oh, interesting.
That's one of my predictionsyeah um, the other one is oh
there's.
There's another one that cameto me during a reading with a
client, um, regarding bitcoin,uh, cryptocurrency in generally
(44:56):
in general.
So, um, because she she's, shehad invested money in crypto.
So while I was reading, I gotsome information.
So I don't know how cryptoworks exactly, but all I can
tell you, and what I got, isthis there is going to be an
(45:16):
upward trend with crypto in thenext two or three months.
We're going to be seeing cryptogoing up.
Their stock market is going togo down, I believe January time,
end of December January that'swhat I'm getting, but then
there's going to be a crash withcrypto as well around March,
april.
(45:36):
So, for anyone who's investedor has crypto, that's another
one.
What was another one?
Yeah, I still feel this wasalso my prediction for 24.
You know weather, extremeweather patterns, floodings, a
(45:57):
lot of water.
I see water.
The water element is going tobe strong in 25, meaning I also
see some kind of ship.
I just got this download.
Now I saw a ship right, somekind of big, whether it's a oh,
it's a cruise ship, oh, wow, oh,no, yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
I saw that.
Well, you know what'sinteresting, aren't they?
Isn't the titanic coming back,is it?
Yeah, it is like it's.
I heard that they're redoingthe titanic.
When is it launching?
Speaker 1 (46:33):
well, I mean, we're the next year or two.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
I'm serious.
I hope it's not what I'm seeing, because can you imagine, my
goodness?
Well, they say um karma, mygosh.
Yeah, our history could repeatitself.
They're taking away.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
What happens?
Speaker 2 (46:48):
those that don't learn history, it's doomed to
repeat itself.
They're in the us, they'retaking all these books away, so
it's like, here we go again.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
That's true, yeah, that's true, oh, lord, and the
whole, and I'm not even, I'm noteven touching the, the
political no, I know no, I'm nottouching that.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
I'm fed up no, uh-uh, me too.
I'm tired of it too.
I'm just staying out of it metoo.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
I'm like listen, we gave our predictions.
It is as it is, we'll see whathappens.
(47:35):
What do you hope for them, forthe spiritual community?
You know what?
I hope?
That it does go even moremainstream.
And I mean, this is a I don'tknow if it's a prediction or a
thought I had recently where I Ihave sort of like a vision
where kids at school, instead oflearning religion, they will
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have the option to havespiritual classes and learn
about the spiritual world andspirit and souls and past lives
and maybe even divination, andthat's my hope.
It's my hope because it doesmake you a better person.
You don't need to be gifted and, by the way, everyone has these
(48:21):
abilities.
It's just that you know it's amuscle that you need to train,
it's something that you need towork on.
For anyone listening andwatching, but I just, yeah,
that's my hope because I dobelieve that spirituality and
when you realize who you reallyare on a, on a higher level, you
(48:44):
are happier.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
I do believe the world will become a much happier
place, right I agree, we bringspirituality to the mainstream
and to everyone, and especiallythe kids right because, because
you know people that are likewell, they call us light workers
because we're on a highvibration and so there's a lot
of lower.
I can feel the low vibrations,like I can feel them when I go
(49:09):
out.
A lot of people don't noticethat I can feel it and, yeah, we
got to get the vibration up andthen we do need to get a break.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
Yeah, and these kids are star seeds, they're all like
these, these kids, theseyounger generation and I know
gen z gets a lot of flack, yeah,but on the other hand, gen z,
gen alpha, the next generation,which is going to be I don't
know what the next one's goingto be called after alpha,
anyways, um, they're all here,they have a mission.
(49:40):
They're all here to helphumanity, they're all here to
help the collective, because yousee, babies now I, jamie, I
notice babies now.
I saw that with my kids, buteven with kids now, like friends
, who are just having kid babies.
Now I look at those babies andI see that I can really see
their soul.
These are all souls, soulcoming back.
(50:03):
Yeah, I know.
So we need to give kids, peoplethe tools.
So that's my dream, that's myhope.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Right, and even if they don't teach it in school.
We could, you know, because inthe United States there's a lot
of like, I hate to say itevangelicals yeah sorry, I just
um and they, they want things acertain way.
But you know, we we as lightworkers want things our way too.
You know what's, what's theharm in us.
(50:34):
You know teaching people toexpand their abilities, but if
you can't find it in your school, you can find it on different
classes.
You know people offer classes.
You know you do too, don't you?
You offer classes?
I do, yeah.
Yeah, I do too.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
A lot of us do, but it's not mainstream.
Someone needs to find you,right.
Someone needs to have theinterest or they want to work on
themselves or they want tolearn in order for them to come
and find you.
I want spirituality to be likethere, right, exactly.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
You can find it, but I think it'll get there with
Pluto and Aquarius.
It might take a couple years,yeah, but I can't wait, I can't
wait, I can't either you knowhow you have like Pilates studio
in every corner or yoga studiorecord.
Speaker 3 (51:24):
why don't have a spiritual center in every corner
exactly yeah, that would besomething and normalize, and
normalize having your ownspiritual coach you know how you
have your own gp, your ownpractitioner, your own dentist
right dentist therapist your own, whatever.
Have your own spiritual coach.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
Yeah make it mainstream.
Exactly, I agree.
I think nancy reagan had apsychic in the white house, so I
mean this isn't unusual youknow right?
Speaker 3 (51:57):
no, it's not, but they just don't talk.
That's the thing.
A lot of politicians, a lot ofthese powerful people and these
world leaders do consultastrologers or readers or
whoever right, but they don'tcome out and say it.
So people don't know it.
So it's not.
You know, it's not mainstream.
What?
(52:17):
Why not come out and say it?
My astrologer advised me thatmaybe inauguration shouldn't
happen on the 20th.
Maybe we should wait two daysbecause the moon is whatever.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
You know what I mean, I do, I agree, I definitely
agree with you.
And then my last question foryou, natalie, unless you want to
add anything else before we go,I probably will.
You know me Once I start, Idon't stop.
No, that's okay.
But my last question I alwaysask every guest is our tagline
(52:46):
for the electric spirit podcastis igniting your spirit.
How do you ignite your spirit?
Good, question.
Speaker 3 (52:54):
Oh, I love that question.
How do I ignite my spirit?
I love that question.
How do I ignite my spirit?
By keeping I try to keep ascentered as possible and I
meditate as well, which helps,which really helps.
So I what ignites me is when Ifeel balanced and I feel at
(53:19):
peace, is when I feel balancedand I feel at peace.
And life is difficult.
Life is hard.
Every day is a struggle becausethere's I have kids, you have
kids, we work, we do a ton ofthings and a lot of times it's
hard.
But you know what ignites me?
It's my connection to spirit.
As weird as it sounds, you know, it's just it, it.
(53:44):
I look forward to connecting tomy guides and that keeps me in
check and that reminds me thatI'm here, I'm on a mission, this
is the journey and the paththat I chose from for myself and
I shouldn't you know, Ishouldn't sort of like focus on
the negative and I should makethe best of it so that really
ignites me and gives mehappiness and I feel more
(54:06):
centered and balanced.
I hope that answers that.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
Yeah, it does.
I think that's amazing.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (54:13):
Yeah, thank you Because you know, when we were
younger, when I was younger,material things ignited my
happiness.
Or you know my ego, my ego, butnow it's none of that.
You know, sometimes I seemyself.
I go online, I might.
I love online shop.
I hate going to the shops forthe reason that you mentioned
before.
I can't with the low vibrationsand the EMF and all that, I
(54:35):
just can't.
Speaker 2 (54:36):
Yeah, I can't.
I don't enjoy either it's hard.
Speaker 3 (54:38):
It's hard, so I online shop, and lately the last
couple of years.
I'm not going to lie, I'm not.
I have a Virgo rising, so so doI.
Yeah, me too.
Save money, okay, I cannot savemoney.
What I earn, what money I'vegot, I spend it on other people,
myself, on animals or whatever.
And the last few years I'm justthe opposite.
(54:59):
I'm like okay, there's noreason to spend money on
material things, because that'snot what makes me happy.
It's my connection to thisworld and the spiritual world
that makes me happy.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
I'm glad you're doing this we do.
We're both frugal risings.
We're Gen Xers.
Speaker 3 (55:21):
We're're gen xers on the cusp, on the cusp, on the
cusp?
Speaker 2 (55:25):
yeah, right on the cusp.
Oh, what were you gonna ask me?
I'm sorry, uh, what was I gonnaask you?
Oh, my moon is, or?
Yes, I forgot your mooncapricorn, capricorn, that's
right.
That's probably why I don'tlike to spend money like I save
my daughter is a virgo and she'slike you.
Speaker 3 (55:44):
My daughter's a virgo .
She's got all this cash.
Okay, because everyone givesher money.
We're pocket money.
She does not spend like if.
If I sometimes I tell her if Idon't have cash in the house and
I'll say you know, you know, ifyou need to buy something from
the school cafeteria, buy itwith your own money, I'll give
(56:05):
it to you tomorrow.
She doesn't.
She doesn't trust that I'mgoing to give her the money back
.
Let's spend to save her life,yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:12):
Wow, that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (56:15):
I just realized you're a Capricorn moon, which
means you can finally breathewith Pluto yeah, not in the rest
of the moon anymore.
Speaker 2 (56:23):
Yeah, exactly Feels good.
Thank you, it was great havingyou here, natalie.
Speaker 3 (56:28):
It was, it was a pleasure, it was amazing, it was
a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (56:31):
And I'd love to have you come back with it's Dolly.
Dolly is the one that was takenby the okay.
Okay, and preston is an authorwho's written many books.
His name is preston dennett,and so I'm going to arrange so
all four of us can have aconversation early next year.
Yeah, that would be fun, sostay tuned, listeners.
Speaker 3 (56:51):
Yeah thank you, and if you can just like send me a
link of his book, I would loveto read it before we do that,
because I would love to get oh,okay, perfect, oh for Perfect,
oh for sure.
Thank you for having me, jamie.
This was oh you're welcome.
Anytime, I'll be back.
You're coming back to mychannel for sure.
Speaker 2 (57:06):
Oh, I'd love to.
Everyone would love to as well.
Oh, I loved being on.
It was an honor and I lookforward to the future with you
because, soul sisters, there'ssome kind of connection here
that we have.
Speaker 3 (57:23):
Yeah, there is yeah and girl power, so this is
awesome 100%.
Speaker 2 (57:25):
Yeah, thank you.
Thank you, we'll see you nextyear.
Speaker 1 (57:28):
Thank you for listening to the Electric Spirit
Podcast with your host, psychicmedium Jamie Lynn.
Find us on Instagram atElectric Spirit Podcast.
Be sure to join us next time,recharging your energy,
recharging your magic,recharging your spirit.
Until then, ciao.
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