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August 7, 2025 50 mins

When Philip Hoover and his wife Lauren Hill-Hoover tested positive for COVID-19 three years ago, they thought they knew what to expect. But then Philip’s symptoms persisted, morphed and intensified. They talk to Anita about how an illness that’s affected tens of millions of Americans upended their life and forced them to confront big, existential questions, like: What does caring for each other in sickness and in health *really* mean?

Meet the guests:

- Philip Hoover is a writer who has long COVID

- Lauren Hill-Hoover is Philip's wife

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