Everything is Dragonball Z

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I heard him from as some chicktold him he looked like David Ruffin.
So I told him to tell herthat nobody came to see you otis and
yeah, get well soon. Johnhen Rods was good. Man was popping
not much? Uh, softball seasonstarting up soon. Still debating us whether

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pain. Yeah, that's that's basicallywhat I need to decide, whether pain
is be just keep in the body, man, Come on now, come
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But I don't think anyone will be. They've listened to this podcast enough.
Hey man. People listening and theyjust see you out. They're like,
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these streets. Brother, We'll moveman. What's not the final fancy rebirth?
Man? What's new? What's popping? What's good? I might be
getting paid for a job, whichyou know, be a new thing considering
I've spent the last year doing workand not getting paid for it. Amen.
Amen, Money all money, isgood Why not? I shouldn't say
all money is good money. That'snot true. Uh well, I take

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it back. When you have themgetting paid to do something. At that
point, any money is good money, right fair? You know, you
know, so congrats on NAB.We're gonna hit the applause. I don't
have the fingers, like I said, I don't have anything written down.
I sort of have a very abruptlyended conversation that seemed to ended with aater
agreement of hey, do some workfor us, and I might be don't

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pay you? Okay I am Ifyou really want to know how big of
a nerd I am. I'm repurposingan AI for them. I am re
recoding an AI to do what theywant to do. You guys heard her
right, people, hen Roots isprogramming Sky and that it's a rist Sorry,

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guys, clear your search histories becauseit's about to get ugly out here.
The goal is for it not toend like Terminator three spoilers, but
you know, no promises. DidI? Speaking of Terminator, did I
send you that the meme I sawabout like the most realistic part of Terminator?
Yes, So for those of youwho don't know, it was a

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meme that' said the most unrealistic partof Terminator Too was when the head of
an AI company decides to do somethingthat will benefit mankind versus destroy it.
I was like, damn they notwrong. Well, to be fair,
sam Altman, I this is offthe rails already, sam sam Altman is

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a prepper, so either he knowswhat's coming with AI or he's at least
or because he's scared of the endof the world, he might be putting
safeguards in to not end up withSkynett one of the two. Like it's
entirely possible. He's just like,well, I know what my AI is
gonna end up doing. Sam Altmanis the head of Open AI, which

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runs Chat Gypt for those that don'tknow, So either he is well,
I already know that my AI isgoing to end of the world, so
I'm ready, or he's might betrying to prevent it, considering he doesn't
want that to happen and God's workafter doing the devil's work. Maybe I
guess he did unleash something onto theworld. Yeah, a lot easier,

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don't get him wrong. I betalright. Henrod as our chief Oscar correspondent.
Yep, give me the surprises ofthe Oscars, because obviously I did
not watch, because no one watchesanymore. Besides, Henry, Godzilla is
an Oscar winner. Hey, shoutoff to Gozilla. Man, there you

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go. If that's not a signfor you to keep living your dreams,
Gozilla is seventy years old, andit's been in twenty four movies, and
it's just now getting an oscar.Come on. Godzilla won Best Visual Effects
for Minus one, right, yes, which I still need to see.
I've heard it's fantastic, but Ihaven't heard I've heard it saying I feel

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like I need to watch that beforethe New Empire one because that movie looks
like a cash grab if I've everseen one. I mean, you can
kind of say that about most ofthe Godzilla movies. After the first remake,
American remake, I guess the BrianCranston was okay, and then they

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were like, well, we've alsogot this King Kong property. How do
we get them a beat? Well? Like, but none of those actually
like felt like bad movies. Theyjust felt like movies. You were like,
all right, e's some popcorn.Watch a movie like this one.
Scot Island good by the way Island, very good. Yeah, this one,
when fucking Ken Kole puts on anany gauntlet, I was like,

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Okay, well, what are wedoing, guys, what are we doing
here? Come on, I don'tthink this giant ape needed any more of
your help. Yeah, you knowwhat, we're wrong. We know apes
are smart, but he's smart enoughto say, oh, Kong put on
gauntlet, make Kong more powerful.And we know apes are smart because the

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new there's also a new Planet ofthe Apes trilogy coming that's going to be
started with this next point of theApes movie. That one looks. Yeah,
that's those Those movies are like great, not just good, those three
movies from the original to Yeah,so hopefully this two one's good. The

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I don't want to say it wasreally an Oscar surprise. Best Actress Was
Too was sort of a two horserace between Lily Gladstone and Emmstone, and
Emmistone ended up taking it for PoorThings, which is also a movie that
I need to see yet. Ikind of HARKing back to the beginning of
the conversation where I have been workingwithout getting paid for a year. It

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means that I don't really have moneyto go see movies, but I need
to see good poor things emmistone onefor that. I kill us with the
Flower Moon was what Lily Gladstone wasup for. It was shut out.
A lot of people were surprised aboutthat because that's the Martin Scorsese movie with
Leo DiCaprio and then Oppenheimer like swepteverything, which no one was really surprised

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about. Of course, I wasvery very happy. Oh, it's it's
incredible three hours, but yeah,I'll see the run time and I'm like,
ah, it's three hours and RomanReigns doesn't spear anybody. It's very
fast paced though. One of theproblems that people that don't like the movie

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have with it is how many cutsthere are. It's it's edited very like
you've got to keep up with it. It moves fast, so the three
hours kind of goes goes pretty quickly. But yeah, Killian Murphy for Best
Actor Nolan from Rest Director who wouldhad the Oscar handed to him by Spielberg,

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which is pretty awesome. And thenBest Picture Killian Murphy. Glad you
brought him up, Yes, becauseI saw a rumor about the Batman too.
Would you like to hear it,buddy, Are you about to tell
me that Killian Murphy is going toplay the Scarecrow again? No, I'm
going to tell you that the villainand a Batman to his clayface. Okay,

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and he's a serial killer that takespeople's faces after they kill him.
I've seen this movie. It's calledSilence of the Lambs yep. And the
Joker is going to be kind oflike Batman's Hannibal Lecter, okay, giving
him clues and trying to walk himthrough the mind of a serial killer.

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I pity anyone who has to goplay the Joker? What are going to
keep the same kid from the lastone we didn't really see that much of.
But okay, they're going to keephim, all right. What are
your thoughts? You, what areyour thoughts if that's the plot of the
movie. My thoughts are I trustMatt Reeves a lot, okay, and

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so I'm gonna try not to prejudgeit too much. So it sounds like
an interesting direction, okay, allright, and interesting to need a lot
of things. So Ann Rodds isrunning for president. He doesn't want to,
he doesn't want to bury it.No, But like Matt Reeves has

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done a lot of great things,right, Yeah, and so so I
do have faith that he can pullthis off. Do you remember what everyone
was like when you heard Heath Ledgerwas playing the Joker? Everyone, Yeah,
tale things I hate about you.I've seen that movie. That guy's
nothing like that. So, like, I feel like that was our big

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coming of coming of age moment wherewe went, oh, maybe we shouldn't
judge casting and uh and or evenstory detailed. People were like, Kenneth
Brannow is going to direct a Marvelmovie, the guy who wrote Shakespeare in
Love and yes, two good moviesin this franchise. Yeah, you had

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to make Shakespeare Love though after Italked about Spielberg, didn't you, because
people are still salty about saving BradRyan. I mean, that's a hell
of a movie. Man, Ilost the Best Picture. Yeah, that's
a help movie to lose Best Picture. I'm surprised you didn't bring up to
homie John Cena just popping up oneof the funniest moments of the entire thing.

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I don't want to spoil it.Please go look up the John Cena
clip the Oscars. Let's go lookit up, guys, John John Cena's
commitment to just doing all the thingslike, hey, this is gonna be
funny for the sake of being funny. He does it, and I applaud

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him for it. I do.I do want to see Giant one day
gets like a dramatic role, tosee if he can really do it,
because we know he can play funny. Yep, we know he can play
action star because wrestling. Yeah.So, I mean I feel like thriller
or drama is like the next stepfor John and his acting career. I

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mean, don't get me wrong,Joe. If they want to keep giving
you all the big checks to beDom's brother, do it. Fuck it,
do it forever. If you wantto just be Peacemaker for the rest
of your life, fuck it.I love that show. It's hilarious.
Keep it going. I think thereare just some details coming out on season
two recently, but anyway that itstarts shooting in June, yes, there

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you go, that's the big detail. Really. James is gonna confirm that,
and that he wrote all the episodes, but he's not gonna have time
to direct them all because of theSuperman movie and other DC things he's working
on. Yeah, he kind ofruns the DCU. Now, yeah,
which the Batman too, which wewere talking about earlier, is not a

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part of right, which is whyyou can have you know, Clayfaces be
a guy and not be a supervillainbecause I don't know, walking around Batman
and deal with super villains. Hecan, he can deal with villains.
He can't deal with super villains.No, No, you can't walk to
the club and then go fight areal supervilla. That's like, that's like
the whole you know, if Batmanhad infinite prep time conversation, it's the

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greatest conversation in all the comic books. Goku didn't quite have infinite prep time,
but he had a lot of timeto go train on that gravity plan.
I mean, I feel like theyput Goku on the shelf every time
they instead of just giving him preptime because Goku essentially was an idiot,
they just said, oh, hehas to heal that being said rip A
Kira Tarama the goat, the goatof all anime in my opinion, Hen

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Royds, DBZ, where where dowe start? Where do we start?
I mean, it was the bigintroduction of anime into the US, right,
there's no beating around the Bush tothat fact. It is what we
were all introduced to. And whata lot of people forget about DBZ is
that Dragon Ball was not well receivedin this country, like at all.

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It was campy. No one wasreally ready for that animation style, and
it was not very well received.But so that being said, dragon Ball
Z kind of came over here inlike small spurts, like before TONI existed.
It was on like random local affiliatesof whoever had the rights in your
city. I remember Fox to Detroit. It came on six am on fucking

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Sundays. It was awful. Let'sput it. Nobody talks about Sunday morning
carshoons. It's always it was dragonBall Z. And I'm pretty sure Ronan
Warriors came on right after that,and then I would go back to sleep
until like ten am. It wasawful. And then for the longest time

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in America, dragon Ball Z stopped. It stopped in the middle of the
planet namic for the longest time.And then Cartoon Network and Fundimation and all
of their visionary glory said, let'sget the rest of this shit, and
they just have a two hour blockin the afternoon called Nami. And then

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and again. People forget again aboutTsunami is. At first the only anime
that was on there was dragon BallZ. It was Batman, Superman Adventures,
some other random show I think maybeThunderCats, dragon Ball Z. And
then when dragon ball Z exploded,and then and around the same time Pokemon

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exploded too, they were like,hey, guys, we still have all
of sailor the Moon. We canjust put that on this block. Let's
get all these other stuff too,Gundam, Wing, Outlaws, Star Big,
Oh help me out here, Rods. Uh see. I mostly remember
like Reboot Era, but Reboot isn'tanime, so Reboots a great show though

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it was such a great show.But yeah, like that was the big
start of anime here in the US. And obviously now we have you know,
we don't even I don't want tosay we don't think of it as
anime, but we have US showsbeing made in that style and big networks
fighting over them to get them.But like, but it all starts with

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dragon wall Z. Specifically, theTsunami era shout out to Tom in that
spaceship, and they just kept fuckingwith him. Every couple of months,
they just decided to attack Tom orkill him off or oh man, oh,
Cowboy Bebop? How can I forgetCowboy beh Yeah, Cowboy BEVP.
The voice of Spike was the voiceof Tom. Absolute classic. Not very

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long either. If nobody's ever watchedCowboy Vivop, go watch the original version
of it, not the Netflix actionstuff. It's like, it's not that
bad. The original is like atwenty episode run or something like that.
It's it's relatively short and just incredible. So all right, favorite Dragon Mozy

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character, and like Goku's the lovableidiot. We've already sort of established that,
right, Bauma like just hast todeal with all of it. It's
probably the most important character in theshow. Low key fair Krillin's kind of

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there. He can, He's gothis moments, but he's just kind of
there. Vegeta if you want togo with the like villain anti hero thing.
Jida just pretty great stuff. Idon't know. It's it's like a
I stop trusting women when Yam shoulddie trying to save the world and Boma

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left him for the guy who cameto blow it up. So wow,
that seven a little bit dub life. So I'm telling you, Dragon ball
Z is like a core part ofmy personality. I still remember where I
was the first time I saw FutureTrunks spice of vegeta like sushi and then

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blow him smothering. I was like, I think this might be the greatest
day of my life because spoiler myfavorite character by far Future Trunks. Okay,
he came in ready for action andwas about to action every single chance
he got. I I think thatwould be a pretty common answer. He's

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kind of your I don't want tosay fairly typical awesome character and in a
show, but that's kind of whathe is. He's just there to that
stuff up and look good doing it. He popped the only he pops on
screen. He's already the strongest characterin the show until like, until Cell

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comes along, and like and Gohancomes out of that hyperball time chamber.
I was gonna say it eventually becomesGohan. Yeah, but like just when
he showed when he pops up,he's the strongest character on the show.
The big bad that they spent whatfelt like my entire life trying to defeat.
He uses them up in thirty seconds. He pops on the screen,

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throwing gang signs before blasting something outof his hands the most unnecessary gang signs
in the world. I don't know, I'm just a fan, just a
fan. Yeah, and hey,let's let's be honest. It's nice when
the thirty episodes of building up akamehameha actually and and something happens. Because

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that's that's the big joke about DragonBall Z. If you've never seen it,
it is fifteen episodes of prep foror a few seconds of action.
Oh yeah, I think that's whyI like the Android saga so much.
Is that so much happens, andit happens quickly, and then it's like
one or two episodes and then moreaction action, action action, because yeah,

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because the Freezer saga feels like ittakes forever one because I could it
spans over the amount of time thatit took them to get those episodes over
here for the second half of it. Yeah, So in my mind,
the Freezing saga feels like it tookseven years. And even though it is
like the longest arc, it's notseven years, but still no, it's
it's very long. I don't thinkI ever owned the Freezer Saga on on

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VHS. I'm dating myself here.I do have the entire vegeta saga on
VHS though, so I know forit. I think I have the Trunks
and the Bardock stories. I mighthave the first Cooler movie. Okay.
That was another thing that they didthat I wish like American Cartoons did.

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It was thirteen movies, yeah,like they There was one recently I watched
that. I don't remember what itis. It's uh super Burly. No
Braley was in it though, Ohwas it the New Android movie? Gosh
now I'm live checking u d DBZor no, dragon Ball super Superhero Yeah

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with the New Androids. Yeah,yeah, yep, saw that in theaters.
Brother, Yeah with the red ribbonpre entertaining Pickolo with the cell phone
hilarious, yep, hilarious. Andhow they kept it going. And I
think dbz's like influence on anime can'tbe like understated, like at all.

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Any like anime you can watch itlike, yeah, I'm overstated. I'm
sorry. Any anime you watch nowthat has like a main protagonist was just
the Forever Optimists. They're all basedon Goku. Any anime that has a
power up sequence, it's all dragonBall Z one not being said like that

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show just changed the world. Manthat was like, that was the one
time where like I can say Iknew for a fact that the nerds and
the popular kids were watching the exactsame thing at the same time. And
you knew it because everybody was watchingDragon Ball Z at four thirty. Yep,
everybody, every fucking body. Noteverybody was watching, you know,

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whatever sitcoms were on. Some peopleweren't watching sports. But if you were
a millennial at four point thirty,you were tuned in the Cartoon Network for
Dragon Ball fucking z rp of KiraTaurma, Bring Back Tu Nami, Bring
Back to Nami. I don't evencare what you put on it. I

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just want to cut scenes of Tomtalking and telling me to be a better
person. That's all I want.That's all I want, speaking of just
people just being better, getting betterand powering up. People are powering up
their bank accounts because free agency juststarted. Hen Riots. Yeah, money,

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money being thrown the fuck around.So you're Browns fan lifelong, Yeah,
I know, I know it's beena rough road, but I mean,
you guys got to the playoffs,but you know it still question that
QB. Brown's made a move.They traded a six rounder for Jerry,
Judy, how you feeling. Imean, we needed a wide receiver,

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right like we all knew that.And the the nice thing is we have
a GM who actually looks at ourneeds and goes, yeah, we'll try
to fill that spot however we can, instead of a GM who just goes,
well, let's go spend the mostmoney possible. So I have a

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lot of faith in Andrewburry. Thereare definitely some missteps along the way there
there. I am on the recordin a in a text message that I
have the date on from when wesigned Watson that I said, I don't
think even in a football sense,this works. We will see what happens
over the next two years. Butso far I've kind of been right.
You don't like man, I hateyou, but all you know, most

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other spots he goes to fill,it ends up being a good fit.
So I was happy when we wantto go get a wide receiver because it
was very evident that we needed anotherone, and we we have two draft
picks, like within ten I thinkof where we traded to get it.
We have another fifth and we haveanother sixth right in that area. So

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it was expendable capital. Jeered soWe're not eve gonna talk about the Lions
because they clearly haven't even started makingmoves yet. They've traded for one corner
and they signed the left tackle back. Clearly they haven't. They've decided we're
gonna wait till day two to getall this nonsense out of here. That'd
be a said Jerry Judy out ofDenver, Justin Simmons out of Denver,

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Russell Wilson out in Denver, Henry, how bad did it have to get
there for them to decide, oh, eighty nine million dollar cap hit,
it's fine, just get him outof here. I think it was just
two staunch people, buddy heads.I think Sean Payton walked in there with

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an idea of what he was gonnado, and Russ Wilton Wilson is like,
I'm a Super Bowl winner and MVP, I know what I'm gonna do,
and they went with the coach overWilson. Million. Yeah, but
you know, but Dubbs, youkeep saying eighty nine million, and these
owners have uh bees at the beginning. No, I mean, don't get

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me wrong, Okay, I getit. The Dimmver Broncos are not owned
by the Walmart family. They gotmore money than God. I get it,
I totally get it. But stillthey didn't get that money from my
sign and checks for shit that ain'tgonna do nothing for him. You're not
wrong. Go ask the Walden fanand when the last time they spent eight

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nine million dollars was bet I betyou I could tell you, and I
bet you I can tell you everysingle return on investment that they got out
of it. Probably, but whatthey're getting out of this is just not
a headache. Yeah. I meanas soon as as soon as Wilson was
completely undressed by Sean Payton on thesidelines earlier middle of last season, it

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was over. Oh when Sean Paytontold him to stop kissing fucking babies and
play football. Yeah, whatever wentdown in that conversation, it was a
fly on to Wallford that one.It was over from there, and I
think everyone knew it, and itwas a big open secret that no one
was talking about, like because theyneeded to fill time. They might have

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debated, oh is he gonna bethere? But I think everyone knew Russell
Wilson was gone. I mean,I feel like they probably should have just
listened to Sean Payton sooner and tradehim when you could have got something for
him. But henryets, there's onething no one's talking about in this whole
situation. So I want to askyou how upset is Sierra right now?

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If you thought there wasn't shit forher to do in Denver, I guarantee
you there ain't shift for her todo in Pittsburgh. Hey, now,
Pittsburgh. But is that a placefor an actress slash singer to like further
their career? Absolutely not. Uh, it is we got to move where.

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It is well known that that Pennsylvaniais two states. It is Philadelphia
and then everything else it is.Philadelphia is the East coast and very much
in East coast city. And thenyou've got penns Tucky in the middle,
and you've got Pittsburgh as a Midwestcity, a heart of the Midwest city

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which is on like the edge ofthe Midwest somehow it's where weird. Yes,
yeah, and you know, havinglived there for a year, I
feel like I have maybe not anauthority, but at least some information.
And no, there's some there's somecool stuff to do there, but I
wouldn't assume so for like an actressto push their career forward and to be

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making the trip across the state afew times. Yeah, yeah, shot
the Sierra, shot shot to Pittsburghfor like yeah one point five million.
Yeah, come on, Russ.Yeah, I mean, you're better than
what we got. I mean,I mean Kenny Pickett was a local hero
in college, but he you know, went across the river and hasn't looked

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great, played in that same stadium. And Mason Rudolph, Oh h yeah
it was. It was tough sleddingat QB for Pittsburgh for a while.
So they were like, you knowwhat, it can't get too much worse
than this. As a Browns fan, I was fine with that. And

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as a Browns fan, you cantell them, oh, it can get
worse at quarterback. Let me tellyou. We have twenty some oddiars years
of evidence that. And as alionsman, I can tell you it can
get worse at a quarterback. Ilived through the Joint Harrington years. I
lived through two seasons of John Kittinger. It can get worse. It can

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get worse. Do you think Russhas a bounce back season or is it
or is it close to over forI don't know, it's last season it's
such a wash. It's hard toget any sort of idea as to,
you know, what, what's gonnahappen this season. I feel like whatever,

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I'll be interested in seeing whether lastseason was an outlier, But my
thoughts going into this season are thatit was. Now do I think he's
gonna return to Seattle for no.The only reason I think last season was
an outlier, though, was isnot because of deteriorating performance. It was
I don't want to be here,and Champagne was like, yeah, and

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I don't want you here? Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean good
for them. They can get awayfrom each other, and now Denver can
draft a quarterback. I mean theydone some great at drafting quarterbacks, right,
Tim Tebow, Paxton Lynch. Yeah. Yeah. It really makes me
wonder how does John Elway still havea job. Well, do you see

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the statue outside of that stadium?But you bring John Elway in because you
assume he knows quarterbacks. Yeah,and the Bobcats brought Michael Jordan and assuming
he knew basketball, well, Imean he sold his investment into Bobcats and
turn that in a couple billion dollars. So he does business. I mean

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he still knows basketball. I'm justsaying, like, that's the comparable thing,
right, you bring John Elway into pick quarterbacks and not as different
because no, Michael Jordan brought inas an owner. He still got in
that practice court and beat them guysin practice every day. I thought he
had some sort of operational control whilehe was there. A little bit,

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okay, a little bit, butI mean NBA is difficult, man,
because one person can make so muchmore of a difference. On the other
hand, we are talking about thequarterback, right, And that's what that's
my thing with with John Elway,Like he's gotten it wrong at just about

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every He's gotten it wrong one hundredpercent of the time. Peyton Manning went
there because Peyton Manning wanted to gothere. Yeah, I was about to
bring up was man Yeah, No, that was all Peyton, That was
all Peyton. Theyve drafted Paxton Lynch, Drew Lock what was that one tall
ass quarterback they drafted that ended upon you guys, Rock Oswiler. I

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could not have gained that off thetop of my head by the way they
brought it. I am not oneof those people that can name every single
Browns quarterback, because holy crap,have there been a lot of fens out
of them. They brought in TeddyBridgewater, that didn't work. Joe Flacco.
Is that before or after Bridgewater?You know, his leg or whatever
the injury was almost he died.I feel like he got hurt. I

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want to say that was I thinkthat was in Minnesota. Okay, I
just can't remember who was before,Like was Denver before or after that injury?
I think that was after Okay,that was in Minnesota. Who's speaking
of quarterbacks? Decided to let KirkCousins walk away for Nahing? Yeah,
and the Falcons who balked at theidea of paying Lamar Jackson who weren't a

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million dollars guarantee. Just pay KirkCousins one hundred and eighty million dollars guarantee.
Make it make sense, Andrew?That one doesn't it never will.
I feel like they get everything theydeserve next season. They really do.
They really do. And you know, and if they're right on Kurt and

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he takes them back to the playoffs, cool, they deserve it because they
made a good bet. But ifthey're wrong, like I think they're wrong,
and Kirk was on his last legsin Minnesota and not gonna be able
to get you much more. Theydeserve everything that happens to him. All
right, well we need to getthe You like that, but for the

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sounding board for this, because ifthey make the playoffs, I'm just gonna
hit it over and over and over. You like that? Yeah? I
do like it, Kurt, becauseyou're not my division anymore. Cool,
You're not in my division. Andit's looking like justin Fields is gone.
So that means there's two rookie quarterbacksin the NFC North. Hopefully Jordan Love
goes through a second year starter slumpand we can have that division wrapped up

(34:52):
before Thanksgiving. Fingers crossed, Baby, fingers crossed. We still need to
drive a cornerback. Quenya Mitchell fromToledo is looking like that, dude,
so hopefully we get him. That'sbeing sad. Quarterbacks, quarterbacks, quarterbacks,

(35:14):
hen Riots, Yep, you're runningthe Bears. Okay, what do
you do at number one? Ikeep hearing that, like this isn't hearing
about draft stuff, but just theBears in general. I keep hearing people
say that they see something in fields, they see something in fields, and

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that he just has a bad teamaround it. I feel like I haven't
seen that from him, So Ithink I go QB at one. Which
one? I don't know because I'mnot as high on Caleb Williams as other
people are. Are you as highon Jayden Daniels or My biggest fear is

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we've seen one year quarterbacks pop up, right, and how many of them
really can you think of that hadthat one great year and then we're great
in the NFL? Cam Newton allright, that's it. That's it.

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Cam Newton had probably the greatest oneseason of college football of all time with
no other that's it. And theywon a national championship. Mm hmm.
So you're saying you would draft JJMcCarthy number one overall? No, I
love it, Henry, I loveit, Henry uts you fucking Homer,

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I love it. That is notat all what I said, Oh man.
I mean JJ is such a hardread because like he never threw the
ball. We didn't we didn't haveto throw the ball, We just ran
the ball. Ask Pad State.Yeah, that was nothing on. People
were talking bad about Jaul like hedidn't throw the boat on the second half
of a Penn State yeah, westill beat him by three touchdown. That

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says more about Fenn State than that'sabout us. Okay, real here,
So yeah, in all honesty,I don't I don't view a quarterback in
this draft as like a surefire thing. Right. There is no Andrew Luck
walking walking through there, So Idon't know who I take. I don't

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know if I trade out of itand try to get a quarterback lower right,
hope someone falls in love with CalebWilliams and I'm sitting there like,
yeah, I'm good picking up.Jade Daniels said, five sure, trading
out of number one and trading JustinFields would be the riskiest move, and
like in football history, because theypassed on a number one overall quarterback last

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year. Fields clearly isn't the guy. Yeah, they got out the trade
Fields, and then can you imagineif you trade out of that number one
pick down and get a different quarterbackand that quarterback isn't it and you trade
Justin Fields somewhere and he becomes theguy, You wouldn't you lose again?
You would never get a job again. At that point, it'd be here
like Ryan Poles would never get ajob. He would be working at Walmart.

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But okay, So here's the thing. If the team around Fields is
that bad, if everyone can ifpeople can look at it and say,
Fields isn't the problem, everything elseis. Then you draft a guy at
number one, you stick him withthe same team. Well, no,
that's the why. That's why youtrade Field for a king's ransom, and

(38:37):
you you build a completely You builda team of diaper dandy shout out to
dig Ytel. So that's what you'redoing. So what do you think you
can get for Fields? Well,I mean depends on who the buyer is,
right, because I mean Atlanta justgave Kirk Cousins one hundred and eighty

(38:57):
million, So they're all Tennessee stickingwith the will Leffis experiment. Buck.
Let me see Pittsburgh. They justthey got their guy for less investment.
Real cheap, Yeah, real cheap. I'm trying to think who else out
there probably needs a quarterback. Buccaneersgave Baker a hundred million dollars. They're

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good. Dolphins are trusting Tua,which again, good luck if he can
stay out of concussion protocol? Doyou trade him in division? Did you
trade him to Minnesota? Is thatwhat you're thinking, Yeah, if I'm
Minnesota, I'm at least picking upthe phone. Yeah, like, hey,

(39:45):
let's let's talk. Let's talk.Let's be real. If he's bad
here and like and you know,your situation doesn't improve and we just we
both lose our jobs. But yeah, but if he's good here and you
know your guys are good, andonly you lose your job. But if

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he's bad here and your guy's good, I probably lose my job. One
of us is getting fired in thissituation. So let's be real here.
Let's let's do something before we bothlose our jobs. Because if we broke
bringing rookies and they're both bad andwe both lose our jobs's let's save one
of us. About the giants.What the giants were looking at somebody in

(40:30):
free agency? Were they? Imean, because I've heard they are one
done with Daniel Jones. I believethat buyer's remorse, which forty eight million
dollars for buyers remorse, is somethingI can't really begin to fathom. But
I don't have a billion in thebank, right, Oh, never mind,
that was Wilson, but he obviouslywent to Pittsburgh. They were looking

(40:52):
at Wilson, So he call upthe Giants maybe, I mean, unless
you think the Giants are in afull rebuild. I mean they can't be.
They just gave a defensive end onehundred and fifty million. Oh okay,
no, then yeah, I guessthey want to win now. Yep,

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I was a half an hour agodefensive end from Carolina. Who's Washington's
quarterback now, Brian Burns? AfterBrian Burns getting the bag, Sam Howell,
Yeah, yeah, I'm picking upthe phone. If I'm Chicago,

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I'm calling Washington, like, doyou really want to ride with Sam Hull?
Y'all? Sure? Yeah? Sure? Wait, come on, guys,
new ownership group. You're you're youreally want to ride with that guy?
Yeah? That's what do you thinkabout this here? Yeah? So
yeah, the Fields thing becomes reallyinteresting going forward. So you would pick

(41:57):
J. J. McCarthy. Goodto know Doub's putting words in my mouth.
I mean, hey, everybody's sayingthat JJ might go top half of
the first round now, which tome is insane, not because I don't
think JJ is good, but becausethere's not enough tape on him to say
top half of the first round.No, not at all that's that's nuts

(42:22):
to me, that site, that'sreally risking your job, Like based on
how much we didn't see him throwthe ball, now when we saw it,
when called upon to do it,he can do it. He was
not called upon that much. No, so to call upon him for a
seventeen game schedule on a bad teamworrisome to say the absolute least, hen

(42:47):
Rose, who do you want?What positions do you want the Browns to
go after in free agency? Well, I don't know how chubbs knee is
gonna hold up. I think that'ssort of our biggest question coming into this
next year. But Amon Jones isout there now. But I don't think

(43:10):
we're gonna spend a lot on arunning back if our corners stay healthy.
But I would like to pick upa corner because I think Ward is great
and Emerson is great. And thenno, I think Newsom showed a ton

(43:34):
of holes in his game last season, and I don't know if I can
trust him to fix him. Ithink like he he had some busted coverages
in in very key spots. Youknow, it's funny, my buddy Tri
keeps saying the Lions should trade forhim. Lions didn't, you know,

(43:54):
getting discussions about him. But I'mlike, yeah, oh, if he's
like if he's showing a bus ofcoverages, that's the last thing the Lions
need on their team. Yeah,the last thing. But again, if
if you just want death, ifyou guys want to take a twenty twenty
five third rounder, sure, sure, but I'm so hoping that you know,

(44:21):
we can trade it. Maybe atooth this year and a three next
year, A three, no,yeah, two this year, maybe a
three this year for snee. Thatthat's what I really want the Lions to
do. Yeah, like put himout there, because imagine if Lions had
one good corner Henry. I meanthat that's that's sort of greedy for me.

(44:44):
Right, we had the number oneoverall defense in the league last year.
We you know, there's a keyweek spot on the defense that I
saw, and that was Dosome.Like I said, a lot of staying
healthy will help. And then Idon't know about the and then on offense,
like I said, Chubb is abig question mark, but I want

(45:07):
to hang on to him. Ithink he could be a lifer here even
with the knee injury, if hisproduction stays at least a sizeable percentage of
what it was, even if it'snot one hundred percent, because I am
on the record of saying I thinkhe's the best running back in the league
as a pure runner when when healthy, I think he's even better than Oh

(45:31):
my gosh, why I'm not drawingto blank on the guy from San Francisco.
Yeah, McCaffrey. As a purerunner, I think Chub is better.
So anyway, we had tons ofinjuries on the offensive line last year.
It's somehow held up decently regardless,but obviously depth there would be nice.

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We already picked up a receiver.There's nothing we can do about the
quarterback situation, and it's two hundredsomewhadd million guaranteed. So I mean,
make our offense as good as wecan and hope the defense stays somewhat consistent.
I know that's sort of a nonanswer, but I was just wondering,

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like, as you know, Idon't keep up with the Browns as
much as you do. I just, you know, I want to see,
you know, it's nice to beplayoff teams trying to you know,
raise our stock as playoff teams insteadof where we have been as Browns and
Lions fans, right, I believewe have both suffered sixteen bro been tough

(46:37):
sledding since tough sledating. That's kindof why I like watching the Patriots fans
swarm a little bit. Yeah,it's just great. Yeah, it's just
great. But speaking of people intheir current glory versus people in their former
glory, Henry, did you hearthat? Jake? So I have heard
this and that didn't go and digfor any details because I I can't,

(47:00):
I just can't. I is JakePaul still an influencer? Is he strictly
is an MMA? Is it boxing? I don't even know? Okay,
this is boxing, all right?Do you remember when Pakiao faced against Mayweather

(47:22):
and everyone was pissed because it wasn'tthat great of a fight even though it
was two great fighters, and itwas sort of just all for money because,
uh, you know, Mayweather spentseven rounds doing exactly what he always
does, which is dance around andnot get hit, or always did.
If you believe Mayweather's gonna win afight, you're not expecting to watch a

(47:45):
good fight. Yeah. Yeah,pretty much. He does ship like Goku,
pop it out of the hyper allthe time. Jane, it's it's
for the money. It very clearlyis for the money. I don't know
if I can point to anything elsethat is more for the money than what
this is, and I don't havethe slightest bit of interest in it.
I have hated Jake Paul since Iwas working in schools and had to deal

(48:07):
with kids talking about him incessantly,and then I go watch what he is
and was, and was like,oh, great, so this is what
I'm contending, hen Ruts, howbig would the check have to be for
you to step in a ring withMike Tyson? It would start with to
be like, I'm sorry, Likeand I know you kids out there like

(48:34):
he's fifty seven, He's look listen, listen. Mike Tyson bill different man,
he built different. We all seenthem clips of him sparring at fifty
seven looks terrifying. We all sawthe clip of him just showing some random
fans some moves in a Starbucks looksterrifying, looks fucking terrifying. Could Mike

(49:00):
Tyson beat an elite heavyweight right now? No? Absolutely not no. But
Jake Paul, Howayne never been hitthe way Mike Tyson hit people. Yeah,
go watch Tyson at his prime.Yeah, just Kimber. That was

(49:20):
boxing. That was like Golden ageboxing. We had plenty of video of
those fights, and a lot ofpeople watch that. Mike Tyson is a
bad man. Mike Tyson is likethe best puncher of people I've ever seen.
He's not the best boxer I've everseen. He's the best puncher of

(49:42):
human beings I've ever seen. Yeah, all of Mike Tyson's highlights look like
attempted murder one thousand percent. Idon't know if there was a number high
enough. You can pay me tome step into a ring with Mike Tyson
and to know he's gonna to hitme. Yep, here not just hit

(50:04):
you. He's there to win afight. He is there to do as
much damage as physically possible with thoseclubs. Like what's that phrase. I'm
not as good as I once was, but I'm as good once as I
ever was. Listen, Mike Tysondon't need to He don't need to get
ready for the next fight. Hewon't have a fight before this, Like

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he's not. He just got tobe ready. He needs forty five minutes
of ready. Yep. And ifyou tell me I'm getting Mike Tyson just
getting ready for this one thing.He probably never have the box again because
this check is that good. I'mnot taking this fight, not a chance.
I don't even know if, like, even if we weren't fighting,

(50:45):
I don't know if i'd want tostep into a boxing room with Mike Tyson.
No, that's a chessboard in themiddle, And you're like, wait,
it's in the boxing right now.No, No, that's that's too
No, that's too close. No, no, not not gonna be able
to do it. Bustle memories justgonna come back when when I go to
move my queen, he's gonna punchme yep. And I'm gonna have this

(51:07):
great plan on how to beat MikeTyson in chess. But everybody got a
plan until they get punched in themouth. Yep. And what I'm not
that happen to me every of mylife is Mike Tyson punched me in the
mouth. That's singing that scene inthe Hangover where Allen gets punched by Mike
Tyson. Boy, they would havehad to pay me a lot of money

(51:28):
to even fake have Mike Tyson swingin my direction. It's a lot of
hazard pay a lot of hazard pay. I ain't doing this for I ain't
doing this for the laughs. Fuckthat not a chance. No, No,
that being said, definitely watching this, I definitely want I honestly,

(51:49):
I was about to say I probablywill, but honestly, I'm inviting you
over to watch this. This isthis is your personal invite right now,
hen Rods. When is it,I don't know, doesn't even matter.
Whenever it is. Whenever it is, we'll bind you over, order food,
we'll talk nerd shit, and wewill watch Jake Paul likely die.

(52:13):
All right, I don't want togo that far. Okay, maybe not
die, maybe be debilitated for avery long time. Might have to be
eating through a straw for a bit. Should you imagine a kidney shot from
Mike Tyson? No, I can'timagine any punch for Mike Tyson. I
don't want to imagine any Mike Tyson. It might start hurting just thinking about

(52:35):
it. I mean, you know, kudos to Jake Paul for, you
know, thinking thinking he got itbecause he beat a couple of you know,
old boxers and knocked out Nate NateRobinson. Like I guess, I
mean, I guess that was whatgets you to think that you can find
and expecting it to be in afight, like it's for money, like

(52:59):
that's the only reason they're doing it. Well, I'm expecting to be a
fight because Mike Tyson's a crazy person. Mike Tyson is a crazy person.
That is the one variable in here, and you don't fight crazy. I
don't like how anyone ever stepped intoa ring against Mike Tyson after holy Field
was beyond me. How anybody steppedin the ring with Mike Tyson after his

(53:22):
first year in boxing is beyond me. Yeah, but there's a difference between
like he was that guy twice amonth because he was knocking people out so
quickly. Henry, I understand that, but there's a there's a leap from
man he's he's really good at boxing. He's knocking you out. Did this
dude bit that guy's ear off?Nope? Nope. I watched him in

(53:45):
a press conference say I'll rape youtill you love me. You don't you
don't fight people like that? No? Yeah, you know you don't.
Go watch some of Mike Tyson pressconferences and the thing see would say,
you don't fight people like that they'renot all the way there. I mean,

(54:07):
his brain has to be riddled withCTE evidence. I mean you think
so, I'm not a doctor thatis just hit that much. He can
get hit that much. He gotknocked out Buster Douglas. That's fair.
He didn't get hit that much.So maybe not. So Who's who's on

(54:27):
the more pressure to win that fight? Jake Paul or Mike Tyson. So
Mike Tyson is like doing it forlike for all the boxing to pool his
guys in the boxer? Oh isthat his reasoning? Well, no,
but that that's the reasoning we're puttingon him. We're putting that's the reasoning.
Mike Tyson might actually walk in therelike all right, I'm ready to
win, and in that case,Jake Paul doesn't have a chance, and

(54:52):
therefore there's no pressure. All right, all right, next pressure question.
Who's under more pressure to win anational title? Caitlin Clark L s U
or South Carolina? South Carolina becausethey're in a second undefeated season. Yeah,

(55:13):
okay, not mad at that?Were you were you surprised that at
the fight that almost broke out inthe L s U South Carolina? Gain?
Yes? Like what was the surprisingpart of the put the pushdown or
was it flow Jay's cousin brother hoppingover the sea. I mean, we've

(55:36):
had plenty. There's there's history ofpeople jumping over Scorer's tables one way or
another. He did one leap.I was like, oh oh he he
really bought that action. So anyway, yeah, yeah, I was surprised,
right, Like we all know there'sheat between those two. But I

(56:05):
thought the shove was completely unnecessary andnot surprised at all of what followed.
I guess I was most surprised bythe shove than the fight. But why
shove there? Like the play isover, You've already got a teammate like
in another one's face? Why whywalk up and shove them? Hey?
I mean, khudos did everybody onboth teams for not throwing hands, because

(56:28):
oh yeah, that could have gotI'm throwing hands, just some one that
you know bred and my push isyou know, I'm just gonna throw some
hands. I've already told you Iwon't start a fight for you. For
you, we'll figure it out later. Yeah, so hands hands are being
thrown, Yeah, I I wasthat that surprised me as well, Like

(56:51):
I figured after the shove and theway it was, you know, put
out there in the media because Isaw it after the fact that it was
more a fight than that. Butuh, I don't know. I think
I think that was very much aheat of the moment thing and pent up
anger between the two teams. It'sbeef, Yes, it's conference beef.

(57:15):
Yeah, it's a real conference beef. The thing that we're losing with all
this conference expansions. Let me getmy soapbox real quick. Is this real
like regional beef between people who wererecruited by the same people who played it
a travel au against each other wholegitimately don't like each other. Yeah,

(57:35):
that's the recipe we're really losing withall this conference expansion. Like the kids
who go to USC, they haveno real beef with the kids from Michigan
or Ohio State or Penn State.You never even met each other. But
kids who were getting recruited by SouthCarolina and LSU and them saying backyards because
flow J is from Savannah, Georgia. I'm pretty sure Angel Reese is from

(57:58):
New Orleans. Of memories directly,they they right there. They they in
the sec born and bred literally,so they've been seeing each other for a
long time, and that and then, like you know, the the laundry
kind of creates loyalty and just andhis hatred and I I love it.

(58:20):
I fucking love it. I loveconference tournaments. I'm a huge Big East
Tournament guy from back in the day. Those are always the best something about
n SG. You knew them.Teams didn't like each other, and it
was happening in the fucking mecca ofbasketball. Yeah, like Georgetown, Syracuse,
Yukon all going out ith yep uhbringing back the old Big East.

(58:45):
Please, I beg of you.I beg of you speaking of that,
Speaking of Big East, Georgetown,they won the Big East outright in women's
basketball after losing their coach to breastcancer in October, So shout out to
those young ladies. Yeah, absolutely, Henry. Do you think the past

(59:06):
couple of years have just kind ofbeen an aberration or is something new happening
where women's college basketball is gonna goingforward be more popular than men's. I've
sort of been thinking about this questionall day since you sent me the the
Rundown, and I think my answeris this is very much so proof of

(59:27):
concept that it can happen, andthat sort of a reflection of society.
We are driven by personalities. Wehave great personalities in women's basketball right now,
Angel Reese, flo j obviously,Caitlyn Clark, Juju Watkins yep out

(59:52):
at USC. In men's basketball,we don't have that right now, correct.
We have a lot of I'm justgoing to put my head down and
go play. We won't have anybig personalities that are out, you know,
and we don't have a star men'splayer right now. And so I

(01:00:13):
think it's a proof of concept thatwhen you give more exposure to women's sports,
as ESPN has been doing and sometimesmuch beligned for it by segments of
society, when you give them exposureand give them a platform and they get
to show that, hey, we'regood at our sport and we've got personality
too, people will pay attention.Do I think it's always going to be

(01:00:38):
like this where the women's sport isgoing to be bigger than the men's moving
forward, Absolutely not. Do Ithink it's going to ebb and flow and
if they keep getting equal exposure someyears it's going to be like this,
where you know, the women's gameis the college women's basketball is much more

(01:00:59):
interesting than men's colle basketball right now. Yeah, I think it can evan
flow back and forth like that.So I sort of view this year as
a proof of concept that it worksand that it can happen. So here's
why I say, like, Ithink you're closer what's gonna happen with an
evan flow. But I think what'sgonna like change in the men's game and

(01:01:22):
kind of bring it back a littlebit, is kids sticking around nil has
made it possible for Kiss to nothave to go chase that NBA money right
away. So you're gonna so becauseit's so new, we're not seeing the
full grasp of it yet. Ithink what you're gonna start seeing is that

(01:01:45):
kids are gonna stick around longer andthese real robberies are gonna start to develop
redeveloped back in the men's game theway they happened in this women's game.
Because Kayln Clark's a senior, AngelReese is a senior, I'm pretty sure
Flow Jay's junior. You know,Juju Watkins, I'm prety sure she's a
freshman. But yeah, you seewhat she's doing, and you know she's

(01:02:07):
gonna be there for the next threeyears. You look at, like,
you know, the top guys inthe men's program, You're like, truthfully,
it's to the point now because ofthe one and done thing that like
if guys stick around for three fouryears and they're like supposed to be top
tier guys, you're like, well, what's wrong with them? Reese is

(01:02:28):
a junior, flow Ja's a sophomore. Okay, I know something like that.
But yeah, like you you lookat guys in the men's game,
if they stick around the full fouryou're like, what's wrong with them?
Like, go get the money?And but I think part of that is
like in the women's game, themoney wasn't there, so like there was

(01:02:50):
no like real things like go getthe money. It was like, hey,
stay, just stay play as longas you can. And then truthfully,
the past couple years like stay untilyou know a lot of these contracts
are building WNBA, so that way, you know, why time you come
out you can really get yours.I think in the Men's game, what
you're gonna see is that kids stickingaround, and especially when these new TV

(01:03:12):
deals come up, of the billionsand billions of those that they're gonna be
like all right, Well, weneed kids to stick around longer, and
TV partners are gonna be like,hey, collectives, kind of do your
thing, get your kids stick aroundbecause we're paying you a lot of money.
So I think that's what's gonna kindof bring things back around to kind

(01:03:32):
of, you know, the men'sgame kind of hopefully getting back on par
with the women's game. But I'mmy hope, my real hope is that
it's equal. They finally get onequal footing as far as like coverage and
like interest and like just quality ofthe game. I think that I think
that's when we get to the bestplace for basketball as a whole. Yeah,

(01:03:58):
I forget my next point. No, you're good to piggyback on that
though. Do you think the movement, the freedom of movement that is given
to these players will sort of dampenthat effect? Though? Right, Kitlin
Clark hasn't transferred, injuries hasn't transferred. Do you think that if if these

(01:04:23):
great players start transferring around all thetime and it's harder to keep track of
them, then it becomes less interestingwatching them? Well, you can make
that same argument for the men andthe women, like as the women the
game, you know, gains popularity, the same type of movement's gonna start
happening. So it's it's gonna kindof be like the same thing. The

(01:04:49):
thing is it's happening in the Men'snow. I'm seeing it firsthand that like
you know, the Men's players aremoving around. I think think, I
think what you're gonna see is thatlike the movement's gonna like slow down a
little bit because like investors and thesecollectives are gonna kind of I don't want

(01:05:12):
to say buyers remorse, but asmuch of like all right, let's not
do this as much. Let's justkeep the kids we got and support our
program and build it from the groundup, versus like let's just go get
the best right now, like it'shappening right now, because it's just gonna
keep happening until people realize that youcan't always plug and play. Like not
everybody's Mark Cuban in Dallas Mavericks whocan just say, oh, you were

(01:05:36):
an all star last season, comeon, come on, come on,
come on. Yeah, like thatthat doesn't always work. And like what
you're gonna see is you're gonna seeprograms they're gonna have solid nil foundations and
really build up from the ground upand then really invest in their kids enough
that the kids are like, yeah, I can I can transfer, but

(01:05:59):
I got a good thing going righthere. And that's one of the things
you see, Like you look ata Michigan who was really really making some
steps to like turn their NIL programinto a powerhouse. I've been keeping track
of it. They're doing it mostlyfor football, but you know what they
say, A rise and tide liftsall ships. Yeah, So like that's

(01:06:24):
what you're gonna kind of see.Programs are gonna start building more robust in
IL operations to kind of keep kidsin. And now with the NCAA having
their teeth pulled out of enforcement andthey can't enforce the role of you can't
you know, offer deals for kidsto you know, sign there, it's

(01:06:45):
gonna start getting really interested. Letme tell you, high school is gonna
be coming in with lambos and saying, you know, i'most so if I
transfer, I can't keep this lambo. I like this lambo up. That's
I mean, it's wild to thinkabout, but yeah, it's it's certainly
possible if that's where we're going.So I don't know, it was just

(01:07:08):
a question that popped up in myhead. Well, it was a good
question. Like I think with theexplosion of the women's game, you're gonna
start seeing more of this movement.There was a there was a rumor,
not a rumor, but a reportout that Fox kind of sat down in

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a room and said, Hey,can we kind of like get together with
the Iowa Collective to offer Kaitlyn Clarka package to keep her in college another
year so that they can keep showingyour games because they get good ratings.
Yeah, because they get the bestratings of anything we've got going right now.

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The conversation never went too much furtherthan that, and obviously there's huge,
huge conflicts of interest, yes,but like that's where these conversations are
starting to get to. That eventhough that that conversation happened and like it
it got reported, I guarantee youat some point this conversations are gonna start

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happening, and it's gonna be throughback channels, and these offers are gonna
start really amounting for these kids tostay places. And I think you're gonna
see that happen more in the men'sgame, especially because like you, like,
if you're a Fox you need Bigtim basketball to be good, and
you need Big East basketball to begood. So if you can back channel

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for your executives and people you know, as you know at these places to
make an offer for well, ZachEats back example, he's Canadian, but
you know one of the kids onPurdue to just stick around for a couple
more years, a kid two hundredand fifty k. You go sign some
autographs here and here and here andhere, and you just kind of stick

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around from this collective I'm telling you, And I mean, that's it's gonna
be like, it's gonna be anissue because and the only way to really
solve it is to make collective things, collective donations and payments public m hm,

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because then you can kind of scrutinizeHenry Ridg you get one hundred fifty
thousand dollars from you've been working inthe year, We'll see I know this
guy named Pounter Stallions. Oh,shout out to the Stallions. So you
get what I'm saying. Like that, that's kind of where we're heading with
all of this stuff, which makesmy job so much fun. That's so

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