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Welcome to the Embrace to Turn UpPodcast. Cultural commentary from two guys who
want all the smoke, all thesmoke and now your hosts A Dub and
John John. John, Ladies andgentleman, welcome back to the Embrace the
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turn Up Podcast. It's your boy, you got the pod Tribal Chief,
if you will, the pod gotIt's your boy, Yate Dub the Double
Anarchy, if you will, andjoining me for this episode. It's not
John, it is my fellow hiphop expert, hip hop historian. Of
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course. I'm talking about the homiesmiles and the motherfucking building smiles. What's
good man? Yeah, yeah,you know that it's time to talk some
good old hip hop. You know, A du b had to bring me
on. It's time. It's time. Yeah, John's doing God knows what
I think. He's like, Idon't know, in the upside down somewhere,
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I don't I don't know. Buthe said, get a sub.
So I'm like, we were talkingrap. I got I gotta call smiles.
I gotta call smile because smiles.I don't know if you know,
but last week I took off.We took off last week because I was
getting home from Mania and shout outto E Ray, you didn't show up
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to the Mania party even though youin Dallas. You fuck nigga. So
it was like, you know,you know, let's take a week off.
And the week before that, Ididn't talk about this Beech stuff either
because shout out to the homie bA, we did a pot about sports
business and what's going on in sportsgambling, the ring. So I've been
letting us cook for a while.Boy boy, your boy, so to
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put it in TV terms, whenI last left you guys, I said
we were gonna let the J Coleresponse breathe for a day. Little did
I know the motherfucker was gonna apologizeto right man. So the disk drops
seven minute drill for those of y'allwho don't know. He caught up the
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seven minute drill because Ja Cole doesthis thing where with him and his artist
where he's like, all right,you gotta write a verse in seven minutes,
which, as someone who used towrap, that sounds fucking insane,
and I thought it was a gooddis smiles. What did you think of
J Cole's response before? Yeah,like this is really good. This is
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one of his seven minutes joints like, oh, okay, he flexing that
muscle like, oh yeah, sevenminutes. Yeah, I'm showing you.
And then he realized his heart wasn'tin it, and that, to me,
that was that was a sad thing. I think. I think what
we've all noticed about Cole from thatapology is that, I mean I always
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tell people like, it's real easyto talk tough, but can you stay
can you stay tough? And bulletsstart flying? I are And in the
words of in the words of Kendrick, are you really like that? Are
you really like that? Watch it? Or is the future? But yeah,
yeah, I guess I guess that'swhy they call him future, right,
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Yes, the nigga he was reallylike that, and that nigga found
out I ain't really like that.Yeah, like, oh you said it
hurt. Yeah. I was like, as a guy who always says like,
you know, I'm like a mixtureof J. Cole and like a
wal A world, I was like, he was like, if I could
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live my life, it'd be asJ. Cole, but I'd be living
in the Walles world, you know. And I And that's to me,
that's the crazy thing with Cole.I'm like, yo, you. You've
been popping this ship for a longtime about how niggas can't see you.
I remember on track with Benny,he said, I'm gonna go to hell
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if Jesus as for a feature.All that shit sound cool, but in
the words of the niggas, eventhinking like yo is he throwing bars at
Benny on on the Benny features throwingbars at everybody sublimely for years like I'm
better than all you niggas and ifyou really want to test me, I
prove it. But Benny had tocome out and like like nah, he
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talking to like the other opposition hewould, and Kendrick told you niggas,
and this is hip hop, soyour niggas should know what time it is,
and he like nah, But youknow what, I give j Cole
this credit because he's the side ofhis heart wasn't in it. So he
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got his ass out. I don'tknow if he saw like how the rest
of this ship was gonna shape up, but he was like, nah,
this ain't for me. Because Drakecame back and who straight up told Metro
shut your whole ass up and makesome drums. Nigga, no we gotta
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fight. Did you see the mostrecent Instagram posts. Oh the deep fake
with Metro the drum line, yeahagain, we gotta fight. We gotta
fight, Like there's levels of shI'm all about the bars, but then
nah, we gotta and like that'sthe thing, like had the big creative
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bars. I'm like, all right, Metro just gonna go get some more
niggas and we're gonna you know,vol trying this ship up, you know,
Avengers and game this shut up.But nah, he just said he
used a straight disrespect. Shut yourwhole ass up, but make some drums.
Excuse me, who are whole asking? What that that? What was
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your favorite line of like in theDrake response, because that because to me,
that was I got a point tomake after that. Give me your
favorite bars from that Drake response.Mm hmm. I will say, like
the weekend bars some of like yo, sorry, excuse me. Like your
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manager was like, you know,chubs, like little like weed man.
What just did he say? Thisnigga week weekend out here buying chains and
whips and ship for uh niggas?He said, the ship we do for
bitches, y'all do for niggas.I was like, yo, yep,
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with all this Diddy ship out there. He's like, hey, yo,
what's going on going on over there? I've been listening to the Weekend for
a long time. I know theydo a lot of coke, so I
need to know what's going on overthere. I thought that was that was
a great line too. I likedI like the line when he hit Kendrick
with like, how you high steppingin some side seven men's or I was
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like, damn, that's what we'redoing now, foot jokes. That's what
we're doing now, short jokes,you know. And then that people was
like we had to find out whatsize can you? Drake? Really know
who can't you go? Size seven? I mean, I'm sure you know
they've been in the same crib,Like man, they got some small and
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shoes. He might be ready,might not, but I don't know.
But do you know you know who'sfaulted? Is that Drake really stuffed his
game up? Who's faulted? Thesame person who's faulted is that Drake is
now a better father. The sameperson's faulted is that Drake's probably not a
better friend. Of course, Iam talking about one Terrence push a tea
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Hordon. I was like, Ohmy, okay, I was because Drake
tried that. He tried that slickHe tried that slick ship when he came
back and Pushed your Tea and guesswhat, it ain't work out that well,
did it? Did it? Hehe lost that ship so bad.
He lost that ship so bad hehad to go just go back in the
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album mode and make another album.And then he went on a run of
like three really bad albums. Butthat's a whole another thing for a whole
other time. So everybody out there, I want you guys to give Push
your tea his flowers, go streamhis music right now, and just thank
him for making Drake into a betterbattle rapper. Because Drake lost that one.
But yeah, he's he's got he'sgetting his punges in with this one.
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But I tell you what, somebodyI guarantee he wasn't expecting to really
really come back with something nice.Was your boy? Your boy, mister
William Roberts Rose, Because the thinkabout beef is like a lot of it's
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like it's talking ship and it's beingswaggy, as my homie Soup would say,
shout out to Soup, and don'tnobody be more swaggy than Rick Ross,
and he do it over like moviesounding beats and and like yeah,
and the ignorant shit white boy,you wanted to hang out with the niggas
white boy, Like what what's goingon here? And I forgot, like,
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oh yeah, that's that's always theinsult to a mixed megga. It's
just a white boy that he's taking. He taking it back to the playground
whenever you whenever it's a mixed kidon the playground, and like you know,
you always really going after him andjust drawing back and forth. At
some point you just called him whiteboy just to piss him off. That's
what it was. Guys. I'msorry. We We were not good people
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as children. None of you are. Anyways. I saw if someone was
at the same thing that he waslike, hey, as someone who who
had the black mom, white dad, he was like, I understand that
that hit. You hit him,all right, I'm sure you felt that
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one, but yeah, no,Ross Ross came back swinging and and how
do you how do you feel aboutthe antics, because the antics are interesting
to me because Ross is going fullfifty. My thing is just like,
hey, I don't know if itwas real or not. When he went
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your own artists, you were tryingto piece it up and now you're talking
about Yo. You did a ceasingassist on the French Montana record, So
I ain't like the way you didthat the French. So no, I'm
angry. That's why I followed youon Instagram. I just I think it's
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weird that, like we just wereunfollowing niggas on Instagram and that's beef like
a I don't know realize that typeof ship. Yeah I was. I
was raised different. I don't know, like I wouldn't just stop following a
nigga on social media if I havebe for them, I would. To
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me, the first step is thisthe nigga in music? Ship? Keep
following them so you know if hereleased something. If so, you know
you gotta get back in the lab. Follow don't mean ship like you probably
should be following the nigga to makesure you know when he puts something out
there, whether whether it's him orthe probably running to now whether it's AI
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or not. But again, Iwas raised in a different era. I
was also raised with my former guys. I was raising in the air where
you know, you punching niggas inthe face if you got to beef them.
But again, yeah, I guesswe're trying to be old, non
violent and shit. I don't know. Well even told me. He was
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like, I stopped following you,like you did, Oh, that's weird.
You didn't want He was like,I didn't want to see your stuff
and just look at the news beforethis even happened, Like who who's checking
each other's followers? Like whose jobat tm Z or Complex or whatever?
It is a just comparing followers andship like yeah, I don't know,
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I don't know. It's new mediaship. It's weird, all right,
So Drake gotta come back next right? Or do we need another shot from
Kendrick or we can't need to singa disc? No we can. No,
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I'm good with your your shots allover the fouture projects. I don't
know. I don't know, whatif what if we kend like I don't
know, maybe maybe party maybe Partynext door is Disgruntle and weekend and Party
get together that this song top ofcharts, Party have him do drop next
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week? See that's why that's whyI got my music out here exactly exactly,
so so we need another Kendred response, does Kendrick go for the jugular?
Let me ask you that, Ihope So, I mean, better
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question, better question for you?What does victory look like in this for
Drake? Because a few weeks ago, when we don't trust you dropped,
I said Drake might want to sitthis one out because he can't gain anything
from this. He can only lose. So I say that to ask you,
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what does three look like for Drake? Because win or lose, he's
still the top streaming rapper in theworld. Yeah, so what what does
a win look like for him?Uh? I guess just Kendrick not responding
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to anything and just going to nextalbum mode or next project mode, don't
even address point Kendrick and Ross andthem stop responding. Is that that what
victory looks like? Yeah? Ross, you know he ain't gonna stop.
He gonna he's gonna keep going.He'll probably do it around d J Keller
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just to spite him, Like,no, don't post that one. Yeah,
I mean, I don't know,like I feel like I feel like
Ross like prolonging this is like it'sbad for Drake because Ross gonna make some
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some real heavy hitting music that nigga'slike, damn, yeah, that's that's
cold. Like the song he didabout Birdman idols become rivals, that's a
legitimate great song in his catalog,and like, I think that's I think
that's where Drake could lose in this, is that like if the niggas on
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the other side of it have greatsongs in their catalog that are about this.
Like right now, I'm wearing myWhat's Beef? T shirt which has
like, you know, actual definition, Dictionary definition of beef, but instead
of the Dictionary definition, it's thewords from Biggie's song you Know What's Beef
because when you need to find youknow, all that stuff. Yeah,
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and that's a legitimate great song inBiggie's catalog about the beef with pop again
ether that's a legit great song inNAS's catalog takeover you know what I'm saying.
But and Blueprint too for those wholisten to that song. I hope
someone that beef. I don't careif nobody says y'all can eat a deck.
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So that I think that that's whereDrake could take an L on this,
because he took an L with Pushbecause Push is like he went for
the jugular, but these other niggashe dealing with Kendricks won't go for the
jugular. But Ross might just fuckaround make good music about you. Yeah,
And I feel like for me thatwould be more upsetting to have,
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like a song that's like a reallygood thing, Like Damn, I like
this for Funck that nigga, Man, this ship about me the same fun
you know it even make it evenbetter for me. It's featuring a Meek
verse that I'll make Tyray go Likedamn, even I can't hate on that
one. That's tire he can hatehell hay yeah helly so yeah. Like
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I just I'm excited because beef isback paused. I missed a real good
hip hop beef. I really didbecause Jaden Beans, you know, fuck
pushing Drake, you know Big inPoc just eminem and Cannabis, Cannabis and
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Llo cool J just jay Z throwingshots at the game like John ruling fifty,
even though that was pretty one sided. Like, I just I miss
a good hip hop beef because theship's like And that's what makes hip hop
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so much different than any other genreof music is that at its main core,
it's built on competition. It's builton two niggas rapping on the corner,
and it's about me talking about howI'm better than you, how I
pull more bitches than you, orhow my rhymes are better than your rhymes.
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And then you know, as youget to know more niggas and it
gets more personal, it gets tobe how you a bitch nigga and I'm
not a bitch nigga. Let mecount the ways type shit, but again,
let me do it with these dopeass bars that I got that you
don't got because you not as goodas me. And that's what separates hip
hop from every other genre. Rand B is not a competition. I
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mean unless you count all the stinkdisc and R and B niggas do to
you know each other, and allthe dirty macking and stuff. Not really
competition. Country music not a competition, em I mean unless you go to
a club like they're having like Dueland DJ Smile As you gotta checked that
out one day. It's just dope, but technically not a competition. Pop
music not a competition. Hip Hop, Yeah, it's competition, and that's
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that's what makes hip hop better thaneverything, and that's why we still Don't
Trust You debut a number one onthe charts, Shot the Future in Metro
first artists of twenty twenty four tohave two albums. They you at number
one. I love it, Ilove it, Let's Go and you know
what I really love about, Likewhen hip hop takes over the top charts
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is that listening to the top fortystations, Like all right, you guys
got your top four and four ah, three of the top four songs in
the country Recording Billboard their all hiphop songs. She gonna play, the
guy's gonna play hmmm hmm. Iwonder, Dimmi Levada ain't got nothing new,
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Well, oh, she's gonna playthere, guys, wonder just wondering
there. I remember when Panda wasnumber one song for like ten weeks in
a row. They weren't playing iton the top forty stations as much as
you think they. You know,they give us a little more credit now
because they got us on the Grammyson TV. They still don't fuck with
us. I want to remind youall of that, these white folks still
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don't fuck with us, because likethat is the number one song in the
country according to play Guess where itwon't be on your iHeart top forty.
What do I know? What doI know? Smiles? What do I
know? With all that being said, I love rap beef. It's the
greatest shit in the world. RightLike, I didn't even know he had
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issues with Jah until the pushups joinedall hold on, Wait, huh you
got you got issues with choun Morant? What? Oh yeah, I'll tell
you what that's that's one nigga.Listen, if you asked me, could
I beat up John Ran, I'mlike, yeah, I got hands for
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that nigga. But he's shooting niggas. He just beat one case. I'm
about pulling a gun. I'm gonnabeating up at fifteen year old self defense.
So he he might feel invincible rightnow, he might feel so he
might be a little more dangerous.I watched a lot of superhero shit,
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and when the bag guy starts tofeeling like he getting away with ship,
he started doing more crazy ship.So I don't know, but smiles,
let's get let's let's get back intoit. Mike delete later. Yeah,
all right, So we we doa rating system over here. We do
it in buffs because I'm a Detroitnigga. At heart. Out of five
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buffs, how many buffs would yougive my delete later if you can just
include because there's only he only releasedtwo of them. Right. Oh,
you told like the project, throwthe whole project. Okay, I'm sorry,
anything about the whole series or whateverproject. Not thinking about what happened
afterwards, I'd have to say youa very strong four bus four bus.
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I'm right there with you. Fourbucks, yeah, yeah, I mean
before the apology, it might havegot like four point five, right.
I was after the apology that takesit takes a little bit of wind out.
But again he checked streaming and you'relike, oh, he really did
delete the song. That's fine,it's the internet. Nothing's off the internet
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forever. Yeah. I was like, it's always gonna be on YouTube.
Yeah. But you know, afterhaving some time like to reset with the
album after the apology, I'm like, you know what, it's still four
buffs ready twenty four? Oh yeah, Because he teased us with having Cam
on the last project, just doingan intro, right, but to get
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a sixteen from Cam on the I'mready beat, it warned my diplomatic heart.
Let me tell you, let metell you. I was like,
I need a small project from Camand chit cole Right now, that'll be
fire. Let me see what was? Oh the intro pricey? Who knew
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you wanted to hear Gucci Man readpoetry until until J cole say, hey,
Gucci Man needs gonna read some poetry. And who knew Young Drow wasn't
in jail still for throwing that?What was it? Played a hot grints
on that girl or something like that. Yep, that was I thought he
was still in jail for that,but apparently he's note. J Cole put
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us out to J cole Man,just giving niggas opportunities that they don't get
him no more track with me.You tell somebody you about to take J
cole I, Lennox, Young droand Gucci Man put him on a song
together like I don't know that's gonnasound like that sounds like he was just
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reaching for ship but trade the truthand the diesels. Yeah, this is
a really dope project and it's reallyover. I think col would have been
better off not so much apologizing asmuch as just like saying, hey,
I'm done with us and just bejust being done with it. We were
like all right, yeah, Iguess he just don't feel like going back
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and forth with niggas and maybe heworking on something or going on tour.
If he'd have done that, hehad been so much better off in so
many people's eyes. First of all, I want to let everybody out there
know what we're not gonna do iswe're not gonna discredit this man's whole career
because he's got he's got some somedope ass ship. He just his heart
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ain't in it. Or maybe hejust maybe he realized where they was going
with they beef and it was abouthoes, and it was about unfollowing niggas
and it was about Ross calling Drakewhite boy. He was like, you
know what, guys, I justwant to rap. This is personal.
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He like, I already know whatother stuff that might come out about this
nigga cool got on y'all. Soyeah, like he He's like, you
know, this seems personal for themost part outside of the ship with Kendrick
and Drake. Kendrick just don't likethat nigga for some reason. I like,
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I really like Kendrick. I knowyou're listening because everybody listens to embrace
to turn up, But if you'relistening. Can we just have an interview?
I just want to sit down.I just want to ask you a
few questions, and one of themain ones being why don't you like that
nigga? What did that nigga doto you? Right? Like, I
really I need to know, Likeis it just a personality? Is is
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he fake? I mean he's neverstruck me as like a fake individual?
He struck me? Is he canbe corny sometimes? And I maybe,
I don't know, maybe if whenyou're from the war torn streets of Compton,
corny is just something you avoid atall times, and like that might
just irk his soul. But likewhat that nigga do to you? Like
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I need to know. Like withFuture, it's obvious them niggas is pill
talking to the same beaches. Yep. I'm still not sure why Metro don't
like Drake Ros seems to be justkind of holding the line with his boy.
French didn't like that season desist allright whatever, which is also funny.
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What I bet French is probably likenig I did not want that news
coming out. I don't know,I don't know. I mean, I
don't wonder French gets involved, Yeah, because he said he was working on
a documentary that was supposed to belike co produced by him and Drake.
So that's why I'm like, ugh, he probably like Nigga. I was
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trying to, you know, forgetthat. I'm trying to work on some
other business. Yeah I don't,I don't know. Yeah, this this
shit crazy, but moving right alongsmiles. We had the second album from
Future in Metro Blooming, which Ijust talked about, debut at number one
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We Still Don't Trust You, whichis a double desk smile, give me
your boss rating on we Still Don'tTrust You? Okay, right now you're
talking about the whole like twenty fivething or just the real main like eighteen.
I don't give me, give methe whole twenty five. I can't.
I'm not forget that because it's likeat the water, it got to
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be going too long, and Iwas just like going too far. I
was like, what are the songsthat people were talking about that got the
features on it? Damn smiles.So I was like, if you if
it will say like the main eighteenbecause I probably got through about twelve thirteen
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of them. I don't say astrong four of us, Okay, I
would say three point seventy five becauseit's not as good as We Don't Trust
You, but it's still a damngood album. The track with Cole's fire
Love It Gracious with ty Dallads,Sidne ty Donalds in the Future is like
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a mixture of singing niggas that Ididn't know it was gonna sound as great
as it did, and I waslike, I think I need more of
this. It's kind of great obviously. The song with Rocky is great.
I think Rocky, I'll say ituntil I'm blue in the face asap.
Rocky is one of the most underratedrappers to ever pick up a microphone too
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great, Like, Yeah, allRocky's albums are great, Yeah, the
first one probably being a classic andfor being honest, I think it enough
time I can say yeah, whichone of the long lived a SAP?
Yeah, at long Last a SAP? Great testing great Rocky, He's just
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good man and he's in this beaftoo, had Nick and Drake. No,
he hit first ray J Voice,you know that's a while if he
also touched Drake's baby Mama, likedamn, I got your baby Mama and
I got the woman of your dreams. Yeah, they're talking about Drake got
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guy's baby mom is pregnant during runningthe train, which is nuts nuts.
Yeah, I don't if that's true, and that came out from that,
I don't know how you come backfrom that. Like you you you survived
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the Drake outing your baby mama's isa porn star. But the figure biggas
confirmed Rocky or some other niggas thatHey, a bunch of niggas running a
train on her and you got herpregnant? Then yeah, yeah, yeah,
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you know, I mean said II'm just glad we got future.
I'm glad we got future. Musicis heating up. So like when I
decide to embrace my inner toxicity,it's all there. And yeah, I
want the beef to continue. Iwant I want more niggas to get involved.
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Yeah, I just I want babyKeen to get involved because if anything,
he's entertaining as fuck, and like, I just get a good laugh
when anytime he decides to rap,who else wraps on ovo aboudy it's a
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bunch of singing niggas over there.Yeah, thank it up. Yeah,
because four Basses Sings. Belly issigned to the Weekend, so he gonna
take the weekendside By next Door sings. Yeah, everybody sings. I did
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not know of any rapper that's actuallysigned to overal. So if you so,
I'm gonna put you in Drake's shoes. Yeah, I'm lightening your skin
up a lot right now. I'msorry, man, sorry, If you
was Drake's mouse, who would youenlist to help you against the avengers of
niggas that don't like you or trustyou? I should say, Oh,
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that's a that's a good aspect.Who would not just mm hmmm mmmm,
because I feel like he would.He would stay out of it and not
say anything. I would say Wayne, Oh, Wayne, Wayne's a good
one because Wayne's cool with Ross.Wayne's cool future. That's a good one.
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Yeah, see Wayne gets involved.Yeah, because I can see it's
like business wise, he'd be like, nah, business wise, I still
make good music with these, withthese two gentlemen right here. What about
call him fifty mm hmm. Imean already get to the djho kid.
Uh, That's what I'm saying.Release And don't nobody on this world outside
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of tare hate Rick Ross more thanfifty cent dude, Like I think I
would. I think I would callfifty up, like you, what,
what's going on? What's going on? You need somebody to help you finance?
Bemof season three? Got you?I got you. I wouldn't even
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ask to be in it. Iwant to hit every every other rapper from
the South. Shot shot to Sweetiewho's in the latest episode? Right,
I saw her in it? Iwas like, is that Sweetie? I
think that's Sweetie, But I've neverseen her without rapper rapper makeup on,
so I'm not sure. Saw crasMichael of course, it was Oh,
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please, don't make her character likea thing. It's like I just wanted
to be a one off episode.Was like, nope, he sucked her.
He That means she's gonna be backat some point. She's part of
the Saint Louis crew. That's thething now. Yeah. Yeah, speaking
of being math the nigga, soyou got to check with guys, right,
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yeah, what's the what's the manwith the braids? What's his name?
Oh? Same anyways, Yeah thatnigga. Fuck it, the nigga
who's supposed to be his right handman that plays Claude. Yeah, that's
the worst acting I've ever seen,like ever. I'm like, yo,
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I can open my phone right nowand find five niggas that act better than
that. He's like, but comeon, like you're supposed to You're supposed
to do this. I'm like,Yo, this, this is so terrible.
What we're gonna do now? BecauseI gotta get from under my brother's
thumb. It's like he always lookedout for me. It's like he reading
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the words off a que card,but like he's sounding them out in his
head first. It's literally the worstacting I've ever seen in my entire life.
I really hope that character does notmake it through season two so I
don't have to deal with this shitno more, because that shit is terrible
and I'm not and I'm not evenbeing facetious, I'm not na. That's
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just awful. God off on whathas been a very good season two of
Being Math. And I'm not justsaying that because I'm from Detroit and that
shiit appeals to my soul. Heyh to go uh slightly left real quick,
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you know, shout out to youknow, frat life and all that.
The one that plays the sister shejust pledged Delta down at I think
it was Howard. Oh okay,shout to her at regular article about how
she was one like it helps thatbeing math shoots when she's not in school.
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Yeah, sure, I mean shootingin Atlanta's warm all the time,
so you don't really worry about it. And the Detroit winners, let me
tell you, it's not a lotof moving around the city, so you
know, all the stuff that happensamongst the family, it would have been
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a lot of so and so's here, but he is caught in the snow
somewhere. He's not actually in thisscene doing whatever they were supposed to do.
Yeah, Like it's real boring inthe d because niggas be caught in
the snow so much like, man, fuck this ship. Just stay my
ass home, going around the cornerand get some conies, you know what,
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you know what, you know what. That's the one thing they haven't
done enough in to show for me. They haven't eat enough coney out.
If I had to have one bigcomplaint, because let me tell you something,
smiles, when you grow up poorin Detroit, you eat coney out
and all the fucking time you justdo. In the nineties, Cony's were
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probably like, I don't know,less than a dollar loaded up chili onions.
Man. Yeah, Lowe was tellingme because the song he got on
his new new project, shadow WorkDemos, it's called Coney Run, And
each verse starts off with him comparinglike two different Cony's, And I was
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like, shit, that's a lotof coney that's six conies, just like
he's He's like, yeah, that'sjust in my neighborhood. Oh like you're
saying like that, that's a lotof Coney Islands smiles. There's a Coney
Island every three blocks in Detroit andespecially all the boarding suburbs. Now,
the further out you go in thesuburbs, like when you're getting de Troy,
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Farmington Hills and stuff, aren't thatmany conies. White people got money,
But Detroit, Oh Park, Southfield, Man, Coney's everywhere. Like,
whenever I go home, that's thefirst thing I do is I go
to Coney Island. I don't matterit like I might get a Coney dog
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if I'm not feeling a Coney dog. Chicken to there's wing ding meal Like
oh the euro Okay, I needto go home now. But yeah,
man, like that's the only thingthey haven't done nothing in the show is
to eat some county, Like Ifeel like anytime you always want to be
eating in y'all spot all the time. Yeah, I feel like I feel
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like anytime t is just with hisniggas, if they're not at his restaurant,
they's probably be eating coney because that'swhat that's what we did, and
they were, and back in backin the day. Not all of them
are. Not all of them arelike this anymore. You know, cover
and shut a lot of that shipdown. But Coney's was an open twenty
four hours smiles twenty. So you'retalking about like seven hundred restaurants in the
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city open twenty four hours a day. It was great. It was phenomenal.
I miss it so much. Nownowadays a lot of them not open
twenty four no more. But thatwas the only thing in Detroit I always
loved, like you could alway getyou some good food late night, end
of the night, right before thesunrise. It didn't matter. A cony.
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There's a cony near you that wasopen. And again back in the
day, this is before everybody hada GPS and Google in their pocket.
You just had a nigga that waswith you, knew around you where you
were. If you didn't know there'sa cone down here that I know is
open right now, and we wouldjust go matter of fact, shout out
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to the homies and let me bookpot. I took them to their very
first Coney Island experience last year theSummer Slam. It was this phenomenal.
How do we get talking about conneout? Damn it s mom be a
mess? Yes, being no fuckingwith you. I knew, yeah,
I wasn no big, big coneyguy when you come up, when you
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come up for K's wedding, Ifeel like we should all get some coney
at some point, maybe after we'reall really drunk. CON's great drunk food.
So smiles. You live in Dallas, now, yep? How far
are you taking the maps to go? In the playoffs? I actually had
(40:15):
to check out what the scene isreally looking like and hitting for it.
Also was at the Lakers made aspot and they got a chance to they
got up to time to win.I'm just I was like, oh,
thank you. I mean, Lebron'sin the playoffs again, go Lebron,
But past I really you're getting bouncedoff the first round. I just want
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to let you know that now becauseif they win, they win their seven
to eight matchup, then they'll goagainst Dipper. That's right. And again,
I don't know if you've been watchingthis season, but they're just as
good as they were before, justas good. And again when Joker going,
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that team look unstoppable to me.But they lose their matchup, then
they got to play in that loserbracket against either Sacramento or Golden State.
Golden State is I mean Golden Stateis Golden State. You know, we
still know what they can do.And Sacramento Sabonis has been cooking Anthony Davis
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all year. They say, likehe's also all four matchups or whatever,
Samonsen putting them thirty on that manlike it's nothing. He see Anthony Davis
out there, He's like, oohfood, food, It's time to feast,
boys. I'm about to cook him. So they gonna have to sink
off help to try to help him. And guess what open shots for everybody?
(41:52):
He like Oprah out here. Youget open shot, and you get
an open shot, and you getopen shot, and I'm gonna take one
because I'm not open, but becausethis niggas guarded me, I'm open.
Watch this HM. So that beingsaid again, how far are you taking
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your new hometown average to go inthe playoffs? They got the Clippers in
the first round. Ooh, that'sa good matchup Clippers. Oh dude,
I'll say finals, Western Conference Finalsagainst mm hmmm. Who's who's number one
(42:38):
right now? Okay, see theyoung boys, the young Boys. Oh
well, yeah, they're definitely loseagainst them. They somehow got them in
the finals. Mm hmmm. Yeahyeah. I was like, yeah,
yeah, they'll lose to the Thunderin the finals. It's something game came
that way. I'm pretty sure.No, yeah, they would they were
(43:01):
playing the Thunder in the second round. Oh mm hmm, oh no,
I think they would win win thesecond round, just because it's like,
hey, we we still got alittle bit of that uh veteran veteran mindset.
We're gonna let you know, like, hey, welcome to the big
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leagues. So you're taking the Mavericksto go to the Western Conference finals.
Who are they playing against? Denver? Minnesota Phoenix? Because that's we were
Whoever ends up playing Denver in thefirst round is gonna lose Denver. That
doesn't matter who it is. BecauseI was I was like, yeah,
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Denver. They automatically lose, solike Phoenix would be interesting. Yeah,
lose to Denver in the Western ConferenceFinals. All right, so Smiles is
picking Dallas in Denver Western Conference Finals. I mean, the East is a
crap shoot, honestly, just andI'm honestly in the West, I'm going
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Chalk, I'm going Denver and okaysee, I want I need to see
it happen. Okay see, gotsome young boys, but Denver is a
well oil machine in the East.The East is much more interesting than me
because we got Boston at the top. But they fold like bad poker hands
(44:28):
the heater playing the Sixers in theplan, and the only reason the Sixers
are in the plan is because JoeanBee was hurt. But Joan bid is
back now, so you wonder,like, are the Sisters just gonna like
steamroll through the everybody else? TheKnicks. The Knicks play like they not
scared of nobody, but they're down. The man Julius Randall the Bucks.
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I mean, Doc is Doc isDoc. He's gonna lose in this and
probably get fired, and then he'llprobably get an the job next year because
doctor is good at talking to whitepeople. Yep, the magic. Keep
it real with you outside of Poloand friends. Wagoner, I don't know
(45:12):
ship about the magic. Shout outto my guy Nick Male. He's been
telling me the magic going the wayfor a while now, and clearly they
here now the Calves Calves best playerdon't want to be there no more,
so he might he might pack itin. He he got sick of leaving
in Cleveland too. He's calling Lebronlike, bro, how do you do
(45:35):
two studs here? I gotta go. He talke out of here and I
came from Utah. I gotta go. Still gotta go, Hey, I
gotta get the out of here.Man is bullshit. He like, I
should have went to Miami, toMiami. I should have listened to everybody
(45:57):
and just waited it out. Isit away and get to l A somehow.
He's like, man, I shouldhave just played the good soldier in
Utah and then free agency went toNew York or Miami, like I wanted
to h He want to get thefuck up out of there so bad so
(46:17):
so I think they're gonna lose inthe first round to the Magic because he
can be like, man, Ican't deal with this ship I can't just
give me the exit interview and man, I can't spend another summer living in
Cleveland. Man I gotta go toocool for this. He's like, man,
I can't. They want me toplay defense in Cleveland too. They
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know I don't do that. Theyknow they know that's not my bag.
Why do they want me to dothat? I gotta go, man,
I think that's what it is.He realized they want him to play defense
in Cleveland. He's like, Idon't, hm, Spider, don't do
that. Spide don't play don't knowif he if he's that he doesn't play
d or he just can't, becauseto me, it looks like he just
(47:06):
can't. Like he just he justlooks like a liability out there. Some
niggas you like, they try,but they're just not good at it,
like Carmelo Anthony is the one alwayscomes to my mind, like Carmelo Will
always tried. He always tried themdefense. He just wasn't really good at
it. That's why he won thatchampionship in Syracuse because when you do a
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two three zone, you can hidea lot of defensive efficient in efficiency and
then you can just let Mello,who was the best player in college basketball
is Cook and that's what he did. But in the East, I don't
know, man, I don't know. I mean, fuck it, Boston,
Boston's coming out of the East tolose to Denver again. It'll go
(47:52):
six games, but it'll really beover in two because I say that because
like when you see Denver rattle offtheir to their first two wins, you're
gonna be like, oh, Bostoncan't beat this team. But then,
like you know, Tatum and Brown, there's superior athletes. They're just they're
(48:14):
gonna pull off some lucky ship intofour quarters. But you're gonna be like,
oh, yeah, no, itcan't consistently beat this team, so
it'll go six. I'm putting itout of clean six. What are you?
What are you thinking? What's yourfinals prediction? I like that.
I like that Denver and six overBoston. You're welcome. You're welcome.
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I will tell you guys to beton it, but don't take my advice.
But what did you ell say?Don't watch me watch TV? Watch
me to watch TV? All right? What else we got out here?
Smiles? What else? Mm hmm, oh smiles m You got Amazon Prime
(49:01):
right, because everybody got Amazon.Yeah, I need you to start watching
Fallout. Do you ever play thegame? Loop me? Neither, But
that show it's fucking spectacular. Like, I don't know if it's true to
the game. I will say,costume wise, it looks pretty pre damn
(49:22):
true to the game. But thestory they're telling about this post apocalyptic world,
Uh, it's so good. It'sso good. I got two episodes
left. It's so good. Ithought I was tripping. I'm like maybe,
I'm like maybe I want this tobe good so bad that I'm tripping,
And I you know, I checkedall the review sites, glowing reviews
(49:45):
if you will. Yeah, Iwas like, because I saw a number
of good reviews. We got thatthat Borderlands movie that as Kevin Hart in
it, that looks pretty good.Yeah, I'll just see the trailers for
that one. Last of Us hadthe whole world in a choke hold.
I still haven't finished watching Last ofUs. Yeah, that ship was heavy.
(50:06):
Yeah, I have watched that.Two is such good. Ship,
the Mario Brothers movie. I thinkthe I think the run of bad video
game properties is over. So letme ask you this question, what do
(50:27):
you want? What video game doyou want to see? The TV side
film producers grab out and make itto a movie. Oh no, really
think about it, like it isa really good run of like vir game
quality stuff. Yeah, and youcan't say Pokemon, No, Pokemon is
your ship. We got like fortyfive Pokemon movies, so you can't say
(50:49):
that, right, the char thattakes the Pikachu bullshit. It was a
good movie. It was. Itwas overall, it was good, but
it was just like, I thinkit's too too far apart for another one.
But I still think they can comeup with another one. Whatever,
But that's another Oh, street can'tsay Resident Evil. We got seven of
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those already and most of them arebad. About another Street Fighter? Ooh,
okay, I mean the last onewas terrible. It was one of
the worst movies I've ever seen inmy entire life. But you know what,
let me ask you this because Ifeel like that the world is pretty
(51:37):
split on this one. How didyou feel about the last one of combat
movie? Because I ray hates Ohyeah, it was. It was bad,
but I'm also one that likes badmovies. I'll like acknowledge that I
know it's bad, but it's enjoyableto me. Okay, because I didn't
(51:57):
think it was that bad, likeit like not to have a sequel.
Well, I want them to havea sequel so they can like look at
everything they did wrong and get itright. Because they got some things right.
Costume design, the fights were prettygood. I didn't like the explanation
(52:22):
of how like they got powers andstuff. Yeah, I was like,
you know, like I don't knowwhat pimp said at once upon time,
But everything that's understood don't need tobe explained. I'm watching a Mortal Kombat
movie. I fully expect for somebodyto shoot a fucking fireball out of their
hands. I don't need an explanationof why they're able to do it.
(52:44):
They're just able to fucking do it. Yeah, Like I don't care about
why this guy can like freeze things, he just does it. Everything understood
don't always need to be explained,I think, And that's my big thing.
Like I want to see Kano getthe thing on his eye and then
(53:05):
that's why he shoots the eye lasers, not because he got a new tattoo.
Nah. But I mean, butfuck it, we're here now with
that. But I you know whatI want to see. I want to
see them like doing Mortal Kombat movieand I want to see an actual tournament,
yes, because like in the original, the tournament made no sense,
(53:31):
and I would see. In MoralKombat Annihilation, which is probably the worst
movie of all time, but fuckingI love it, it was just how
many characters can we fit in thismovie under this budget? And they went
for gold. But in this one, it felt like they told the story
of sub Zero Scorpion right when theykilled some zero, they nodded to the
(53:57):
fact that, yeah, he's gonnabecome Nopes I bought, which was Allays
my favorite character in the Newdio gamethe same with him as a Yes,
I don't, I don't know.I think I think they got a lot
of things right in that movie,even if the story wasn't that great.
And again fingers crossed, hopefully themis plays Johnny Cage in the sequel,
(54:17):
because that's just a role that wasmade for the miss because, as you
know, Smiles, everything is wrestling. I've one that's so much, especially
the last couple of years. ButI mean, it's not just something we
say, man, you see,it's it's truth, right, It's truth.
Yeah, another street Fighter would begood, but I'm with you on
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liking bad movies thing, because that'sstreet far in the movie. I love
that movie and all of this terribleness. I love that movie. Nothing about
that movie makes sense. It's notgood at all. Like, yes,
it's objectively a very bad movie.What the funny part about that is it's
(55:07):
not the worst video game movie thatcame out in the nineties. I took
kids all the time and say,yo, y'all know how good y'all got
it with that Super Mario Brothers movie. Super Mario Brothers movie I had growing
up. Yeah, that that's trash. That's bad cinema right there. Let
me tell you something, brother,the Double Dragon movie. Ooh ooh,
(55:31):
rough, rough, go of it. I'm trying to think of the movie.
I wouldn't mind them turn into agame on mind. Oh, give
me My Gears a war movie already. Okay, yep, by the time
I spent playing that in the dormrooms, give me that movie already.
Come on. Oh, which totallykind of random off subject. Have you
(55:58):
heard the news about teenage Mutant NinjaTurtles? Are you referring to the last
Roman movie they're working on, orI guess, or like the in the
comic books, there's like a wholeanother generation of Ninja Turtles. No,
I guess it's started this year orsomething of that. In the comic books,
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they are led by Casey Marie Jones, who's the daughter of Abrin Casey,
who's not sure about being a sensebut she's tasked with being there.
Since it's four different turtles, liketwo boys, two girls. They all
like look different, but they're alwaysthe same. And their names all mean
(56:44):
one in like Spanish, Swahili,German and some other language. I mean
one. Okay, that's that's interesting. I'm not I'm not mad at it.
I like the idea of like givingkids their own characters to latch onto
(57:07):
and like in an existing universe.Like I like that idea, hmm okay,
and like and I'm cool with themkind of getting away from like the
Renaissance painter thing because that was specificto Splinter. He named them that because
he, if I recall, hismaster was like big in the Renaissance painters,
(57:29):
and they had those books out there. But if you have a you
know, a whole new group ofkids, maybe you know who's ever raising
them was big into linguistics. Idon't know, yeah, because I was
reading about that. They said itwas basically the whole drive, the whole
fact that this that there's still ateam, even though they're each one individually
(57:52):
like great or whatever, there's stilla whole team. Like you are one,
but you're also part of a team. Okay, not mad at it,
not mad at it. But Ialso saw there developing the teenage Neatrol's
comic Last Ronan into a live actionmovie. And for those who don't know
(58:14):
least Ronan is, I believe Ralphis the last surviving turtle and he kind
of he gets busy. Essentially,he goes at it. He goes at
it with the foot Clan and everybody. But he always has the headbands of
like all his brothers and stuff.But and now he has all the weapons.
(58:35):
And they say it's a lot darker, which the original Teenagement and Natrol
comics were very dark. A lotof motherfuckers died, which is why the
first movie is really dark, whichpeople don't really remember. But yeah,
no, that sounds dope. Thatsounds dope. And in other movie news,
Keanu reeves shout out to that guyjust taking every side mission and that
(59:00):
he wants decided he wants to bethe voice of Shadow and the third signed
the Hedgehog movie, Right, whatdo you think about that? So I
was gonna get versus Idris Elba atsome point. Yeah, I was just
excited just because the characters that Keanuhas been playing lately anyways, because I'm
(59:22):
like, oh, he's perfect fora Shadow role are always already makes sense.
I'm already excited with the Isses Elbowuh Sonic Sonic Knuckles TV show.
So yeah, that that looks likea hopefully paramount puts all the episodes out
(59:42):
at the same time. That's likea fun Saturday morning you know, looks
to be funny at Knuckles with hisdead pan not trying to be funny funnness
and the actor playing old dude.I forget his name, but he was
in the short lived sitcom Happy Endings, which if you never see that smiles.
It's a perfect television show. WhyABC decided to end it after three
(01:00:07):
seasons beyond me. But when Itell you it's a perfect television show.
Perfect. It's a three minute comedysitcom. You'll love it. Let me
know when you start watching it.It's a perfect show. Perfect. What
else we got just run down?Oh? Oh, I was gonna say.
(01:00:29):
Also with the Shadow thing, theysaid one scene that that was shown,
like I said, for the trailerwas and it was like another another
Hedgehog because that last one that Ibattled was didn't even give me like a
run for my money. And Sonic, which is like, you know,
(01:00:49):
I'm staying like right next to you, right, yeah, I can't wait.
That's gonna be good. It's gonnabe good. Those those Sonic movies.
They're just enjoying. I'm not here. I'm not gonna sit here and
tell you they're good movies. They'rethey're just enjoyable, have fun watching them.
Last up on this rundown, youknow, we got to talk comic
(01:01:10):
book movies. So Joker trailer,Joker Too, Joker Squad whatever, I
don't know, I don't speak French. Yeah, Joker too. Yeah,
lady guy got playing Harley Quinn.They they took some they took some ventures
(01:01:32):
away from the comic book. HarleyQuinn is also a mental patient along with
Joker. What do you think?What do you think? What are you
thinking? And it's a musical,Yeah, I was like, just some
it already be in the musicals already, just total departure from the first movie.
(01:01:52):
But then again, hey, thefirst movie was the whole functions he
hold on, wait, hold on, excuse me, but he hallucinated that
whole thing, hey with her heOh, So I don't know what to
expect from this movie now. I'mjust ready to see, hopefully an enjoyable
(01:02:15):
movie. Well, I mean,if you're a culture man like myself,
you know, the musicals can beawesome. You know what you call it,
Hamilton. Obviously, I actually sawcats when I was a kid.
I think it was good. Idon't really remember. I think it was
(01:02:36):
and cat costumes, putting Connie Spelland be your man. Your man's knows
his musicals, is what I'm saying. My house and not not the ones
on the Chilling Circuit is, andNottham Tyler Perry. One's the real one.
So I'm interested. I'm interested inthis one. I've always liked the
concept of, like when you're watchingthings or stories being told from the Joker's
(01:02:57):
point of view, he's the unreliablenarrator, which is like, it's a
it's a very interesting like storytelling deviceof having the protagonists and who's like point
of figure seeing of it, notreally being what's really going on, you
know, always says like there's threetides to a story, your side,
(01:03:17):
my side, and the truth.With the Joker being a legitimate crazy person,
his side is not only not necessarilythe truth, but it's distorted by
his mental illness. So that tome, that's an interesting like storytelling device,
because that's why the story in DarkKnight about how he got the scars
(01:03:40):
was always different no matter who hetold it to. Unreliable narrator. It's
a very interesting, like I said, this is a very interesting device of
how they tell stories. So thinkabout unreliable narrator like, but it's still
their truth at the end of theday's act. It's their truth, but
it's not the truth. So whenyou combine that with like psychosis, it
(01:04:08):
becomes very unreliable. So so truthfully, Harley could still be the doctor in
this, but Joker Caesar as hisequal as someone who is also you know,
in this mental institution because she's crazy. So you know, it's gonna
be interesting to see how they tellthat story. I saw another thing come
(01:04:30):
out in Comebook News is the nameof the Thunderbolts movie is Thunderbolts with an
asterisk that can, and they saidthey're not gonna explain an asterisk until after
the movie comes out. So nowin my content brain, like I need
to know it's an asterisk because likethe government wanted to call them the Dark
(01:04:55):
Avengers, but Tony had Avengers copywritten, so they call them Thunderbolt. So
I don't know. I have somany questions that I can't ask anyone without
like the Disney Assassin's coming to killme, and lord knows, I don't
want like a Mickey Mouse Ninja atmy door stop, so I'm leading out
alone. That's how one person sayit's an allusion to some character they're supposed
(01:05:19):
to be in their century. Woooh. Century is supposed to be the
main villain in that one. I'veheard that. And the Century is like
a Marvel offshoot of Superman. Okay, yeah, yeah, so that's interesting.
(01:05:44):
That's interesting. And then also theygot a lot of heavy lifting to
do, especially after Deadpool drops ining July. You gotta gotta introduce these
mutants. M got a lot ofheavy lifting to do. Yeah. I
was like, yeah, I gotto tease it long enough. They're saying
they want the first UNS movie tocome out in twenty seven, three years
(01:06:10):
away. You got all right halfwaythrough twenty four, so you got you
got what a Thunderbolts movie coming up? You got a cat movie that's pretty
much done. And after that yougot your your Vendors movie, which may
have Kang, may not have Kang, I don't know, could have Doctor
(01:06:33):
Doom, I don't know. Theygot a lot of heavy lifting to do.
I would not want to be onthat writing staff right now. It
seems like an impossible task. I'llsmiles. You got anything else to hit
the people with? Oh? Justyou know, make sure y'all listen to
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