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March 26, 2024 • 52 mins
Dub & John are back and have a whole list of things to talk about.... Did they get to any of it?? No... Did they talk at length about Kendrick Lamar sending shots at Drake and J. Cole?? ABSOLUTELY
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I guess I won't go. Iwon't go. I won't go off topic
too much today. I'll behave today. I thought you're gonna tell me you
didn't get through the Future album.I didn't what a recorder? Right now?
Welcome to the Embrace to Turn Uppodcast, cultural commentary from two guys
who want all the smoke, allthe smoke and now your hosts A Dumb

(00:22):
and John John. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the podcast by the
podcast the pod Tribal Chief. Ifyou will join me, this just sucks.

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The hood of Avenger oh Man wearingall black, the darkness of dark
knights because I am in mourning.Yeah, I'm in morning. I got
a confession to make. You're nota Future fan no more? What?
What? What? What? What'sgoing on? Man? I didn't get
I didn't get to the album.Man, you didn't get to it at
all? What happened? So?Okay? So I heard the song,

(01:08):
you know the song I'm talking aboutthis song? I heard the song.
I did hear that? Yeah,and then that's the only thing I heard.
And I read that verse you sentme. Was that that was in
the intro? Right? Yeah,the version? So I read the verse
you sent me. That's all Iknow about the future album. I have
not I haven't got to it.So people that know me, I am

(01:29):
big in the future hive, andI am very disappointed myself that today I'm
putting myself in punishment. When Iget off work, I'm gonna go sit
in a room with the door closed. You don't have phones with some with
some with some pino veno what theycall it veno, you know, just

(01:49):
like the general turn for why withsome veno? And I'm gonna sit there
and listen to it. That's mypunishment for it today. I have not
heard it yet. First of all, you don't dream wine list in the
future. Speaking of Hennessy, Chili'shas a Hanni margarita, Yeah, I
had it for a long time.Well, I didn't know that. I

(02:12):
was like, oh this for theniggas, I have all this other mark.
You know what's funny is when Iwhen I went to the drink menu,
my eyes it was like the ancestorswere speaking to me. My eyes
went straight to that, all themarks they have on the MENI my eyes
saw Henny mark. That's the firstthing I saw. I didn't see anything
else in that menu shout out tothe ancestors doctor of course. I mean,

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I got that and I got there. You don't like hennessy, but
I had to do it. It'sfor the culture, for the culture.
It's for the culture. I don'tdiscuss, I don't I don't drink any
like that, but I felt likein that moment, I had to do
it for the culture. That wasgood, I said, would get off
topic much today, but I feelbad. I have not. I have
not listened to the Future album.Usually I'm a first day Future listener.

(02:57):
Like, I know, albums comeout at midnight and usually sleep, but
when I wake up in the morningin Future, this is the crazy part.
This is bad too. I didn'teven know the album was coming out
yesterday. Here's the thing. SoI sent you that tweet right of the
Kendrick Lamar verse. So I'm like, and then I started reading Twitter.
Everybody's like, you know, Futureand Dre fighting about a woman, and

(03:21):
then then they're talking about you know, Kendrick's verse. I'm like, and
I kept reading. I'm like,what the fuck is going on? So
then I thought it was Thursday,so I was. I took a shower
and graying for work. We hada call. I was on calls all
day yesterday. But during the call, one of the guy says, g

(03:42):
T I f you know it's Friday. What we got played this weekend?
I'm like, it's Friday, andI was like, oh shit. I
went during the call, I wentand grabbed my phone. I went and
grab my phone. I go toApple Music. I go to brows.
First thing on there it says futurein metro Booming Nigga. I thought a

(04:03):
single released yesterday, so I didn'teven think about it. The whole fucking
album came out. Whole album cameso I'm very disappointed myself and I will
put myself up punch it later today. I am very disappointed I should have
hurt the album. Okay, allright, well, I mean that's cool.
We can just skip ahead and I'lljust give you my quick review right
now. Okay, yeah, I'mgonna give it three and a half blocks.

(04:28):
Okay, the intro solid, theintro solid, and then that Kendrick
versus the second song. Right,no, no, no, no,
that's like the six or seven song. Oh okay. The songs after the
intro, wasn't really feeling them asmuch. But I will say this album
picks up quickly? Is it afterthe Kendrick song? And when it picks

(04:51):
up the song right before the Kendricksong? All right, let me go
to the track list, y'all.Metro was okay? I did am.
I wasn't a big fan of IceAttack or type ship but claustrophobic on on
down. Yeah. So I'm hearingthat we get another Future album on April

(05:11):
twelve, Yes, yeah, yeah. Is it Metro booming too? Yeah?
Yeah? Oh shit, I won'tmiss it this time. So so
you you heard the track who Hewas Really bad too? Okay? I
listened to the new Chief Keith album. I didn't a lot of people didn't.

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And I didn't hear the Future album. How many buffs are you getting?
That album? It was? Itwas Chief Keith and Michael made it
so it was like a clap clapalbum. It was. It was good.
I'll give it three buffs. Uh. And then I listened to the
Just and Temple album, which Igive before, but I didn't listen to
the Future album. I want likeI am his biggest fan. That's biggest
fan. But I want to rightnow if you ask me, who's the

(05:57):
I'm just talking about the best artistsout in my Like, who am I
gonna listen to? When they releasedit's Future Juicy J and Drake in that
order. Upset. You heard thetrack with Kendrick right, I did?
Did your ears perk up a littlebit when you heard that? When I
heard the sample, I'm like,yeah, Like I was talking to the

(06:18):
homie Khalil. Shout to Khalil,and I said, yo, that that
song. It's different for niggas whowas around, Yeah, Weezy. Yeah,
I was like, is that isthat the I Can't feel my face
sample from Drop three? It is? And I had to go look up,
like what actual song that was?The original song is called ever Lasting
Bass from like the mid eighties,because that's my first song, Like,

(06:41):
oh ship, this is just asample. It wasn't like a random beat
that Weezy had more mixtape and Iwas like oh, and then I was
like and then I then I lockedin and I was like, ain't no
top three niggas just topped me.I was like, so that's rewind us
a little bit. Let's remind usa little bit because they are now.

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I also talk about this too,and I did hear this the big Sean
freestyle. Oh the way did thishouse? Yeah, that was dope.
That was dope. I mean,but it wasn't. I mean, it
was okay. When I first heardit, I was like, Yo,
this is fire. And then Iheard the Kendrick first, and I'm like,
see, there's there's just there's justSean was dising him. He was

(07:24):
just saying, I don't have theenergy to keep her happen with these and
I was like, I get it, but but and I've told you this,
there's levels, right, It's justthere's just levels. And I've for
years, I for years told youKendricks the best rapper out of out of
all of them, like out ofthat group we're talking about Sean Wallea,

(07:45):
Drake Cole and then this Kendrick Court. I always said Kendrick was the best.
U. I said that, andI like you you yeah, you
point yourself. You. I likeyou taught me into believing J Cole was
the best lyricist out here right now, which and if you look at it
in totality, J Cole's been killingit lately. I haven't. I haven't
heard from That's what we heard fromKendrick was Mister Morales in the Steppers,

(08:09):
which was a phenomenal album. ButCole has been everywhere outside of that album,
we haven't heard from Kendrick. Soit's just like, but when Kendrick,
when Kendrick wants to be outside,bro no man, Yeah, well
he wants to be outside, likehe's outside outside. He's like us in

(08:30):
the summertime, like he is outside. He's out here. He's like I'm
out here. But the thing Ihate about Kendrick is he'll step outside and
is a recluse, like won't hearanything from him? Like em like to
me, what like why they gotwhy they got along so well while they
probably did songs together on the MarshallMathers upy is because they get in the
booth and like there's so meticulous abouttheir music. But then when they've done,

(08:52):
they just go home like they they'reso such a recluse, they're like
outside, ain't really from me?Who will be like, all right,
I'm gonna do my album and ohyou want a feature, Sure about that,
because I'm gonna kill you on yourown record. But I ain't gonna
say no either. I ain't gonnasay no to nobody everybody don't want to

(09:13):
feature cool. You really want thiswork cold. You think that space,
Well that's great, but do youthink that sweets to tell how great Kendrick
is though, Like when he stepsoutside, he'll lay one fire as verse
that have people talking, like peopleare talking about this and it just disappeared.
No, yeah, I mean no, it's great. And the same
thing with three stacks, like whenthey around, they're great. But me

(09:37):
personally, I give more credit tothe niggas who like the consistency, Like
I want a bigger body of work. You know what I'm saying, Well,
we had this conversation. So everyalbum Kendricks release has been, there
hasn't been no min in his discoveryright now, But I'm saying, I
want a bigger but I want moreguests verses. I wanta tarantinover Spielberg type

(10:00):
discussion. You know what I'm saying. Tarantino has like one eleven movies,
Spilder Supert has like forty. Yeah, Like I need keep keep going.
I keep going, Like if youthat good, just keep going and keep
going and keep going and keep goingbecause to me, if you have such
a small body of work, itmakes me wonder like are you are you
just good for you know, theforty minutes you're on the court, Like,

(10:22):
can you can you run an eightytwo game season right now? That's
but absolutely not I could, Butright now, could you be the best
nigga out of YMCA? And that'smy point, that's my point, Like
I give more credit to the niggasthat run the full lady too. Like

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and like we talked about in basketball, John Stockton played every single game twenty
years. He did Mike, Mikeplay just the whole season because he got
hurt, and after that he playedeighty two games every single year like that.
That's that's that's kind of what Ivalue, like be out to be
really out here doing it, takeit, take a year off, cool,

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but when you come back, Ineed I need a year. So
banger, banger, banger. Iwas gonna say something, Oh, this
is one thing that I noticed though, When Kendrick comes outside and does this,
I feel like niggas took their tails. You think you think we're gonna

(11:24):
get a response from Okay, itdon't it. Don't behoove him to respond.
Who Drake or Cole Drake, Ohcold, definitely respond respond to this
Cold competitive and Cold Colzman popping hisship about being the best yeah for four
years now, So you think youwill get something from Cold, but not
Drake. They don't behoove Drake becausewhy do you think about who's Drake?

(11:46):
Who's Drake? Gonna like, Okay, no, here's what for you before
you continue. So there's been speculationobviously there's some beef there between metro Booming
and Drake, right, and thenthere's been speculation that there's girl issues between
Future and Drake, which Futures spoketo you on the record, you send
me so so you so this isthis is ship does a dude? If

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you was metro Boom and you'd belike, huh, I got this fire
sample. What's another nigga that alllike Drake? Oh, I will get
Kendrick Lamar on this song and thenwe're gonna just talk ship. Absolutely,
we're gonna we're gonna Infinny gattlet thisship. That's what we're gonna do.
The enemy of my enemy is myfriend. So I was going somewhere with

(12:31):
that. So that's what's going on. So you said Drake's not responding,
but you think don't behoove him.You think him looking at Metro Boom and
producing it futures on the track andthey win't got Kendrick lamar, You don't
think it's his best interest to respond? No, because who's he gonna convince

(12:52):
that he's a better rapper than Kendrick. No, but what if he turned
that nigga into a club song likehe did Meet Mill? Listen? Do
you really want the candy man comingafter you? Oh, Kendrick, you
know this is this is this iswhat I think why Kendrick though? I
think Kendrick comes outside and throws thesejabs right and he just goes away because

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I think he, in his hearthe believes Drake is not gonna respond.
But I do think if Drake didrespond, I think Kendrick would come outside
more often. So I think Ithink I think Kendrick will say something and
be like that. They ain't gonnasay nothing. I'm just gonna leave right
now. Kendrick's the boogeyman. Youopen your closet, he's scaring the shit
out of you, but you canclose your closet again. He goes away.
Do you think that's why Drake's willstay quiet? You say the candy

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Man's name three times in the mirror, and they said, you know he's
standing on that corner looking at you. He everywhere like that's just okay,
hold on a second, so asmenytimes, as Kendrick has responded or said
sid shots at Drake, right,Drake's never responded. Push a T sent
shots, said Drake. Drake responded, do you think, well, do

(14:01):
you think that's there? You thinkyou think Drake knows that he can't because
obviously, for instance, I giveI give you, I give you a
situation. Right, let's say it'salmost like what I'm getting at is,

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I know Drake doesn't think lyrically he'sbetter than push a T. But Drake
is like, all right, whenit comes to push, maybe I can
get a few jabs in and getout right, which it went. It
went bad for him either way.But when Kendrick comes along, Drake has
from what I called, Drake hasn'treally and like he wanted that wants to

(14:43):
fight. I think it's it's amatter of like positioning too. Like Drake
looks at push you and he's like, I think I'm kind of on part
of this guy, and he's notas successful as me. He shouldn't be
saying my next okay. And thenand then also Putcher got like really disrespectful.
He did like Kendrick's like going tothe thing on some rap shit,

(15:05):
Drake not Drake push him with personalso that that's the other thing, and
like and the same thing with withMeek and with Button, like Drake looks
at them like he probably like,I'm better than me, and he shouldn't
be saying my name because I'll behanging out with his betch all the time.
And then the Button thing, hejust felt like Buden was just a
you know, retired, angry oldnigga. He's not wrong, but again

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he didn't want those Drake. Heresponded to Button earlier in the year,
remember, because Buden was critiquing hisalbum and Drake was like, I'm tired
of these even playing a song.I'm tired of these retired rappers, so
like, and that's why it's mypositioning. But you look at Kendrick one,
I think if he's really honest withhim with himself in times where he's
not at parties and you know,doesn't want to talk about it out loud,

(15:54):
he know he can't do fucking Kendricklyrically. And also Kendrick has a
status in the game right now ofright there, well, popularity as far
as just straight rappers go. Nowas a pop stars, Drake's hormone pockets.
Yeah, but if you just someoneon the hip hop community, you
name, you know, the topfive most popular rappers right now, them
two is up there. So it'sabout that status too. So that's why

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I saying he won't what's about hedoesn't gain anything in status because no one,
no matter how good this is,gonna think that Drake is better than
Kendrick. And also it's gonna becomea distraction from whatever else he's trying to
do. Because again, you yousay his name three times, he on
your neck, all right. Soi'mna be honest with you. I think
if Cole responds, Kendrick doesn't comeout for that. I think it depends

(16:41):
on the severity of the response.Okay, it's like you gotta like,
you gotta really, you gotta reallyget me, yeah, because you know,
sometimes you throw that jab and you'relike, I'm good, this fight's
over. Ye see that nigga's face. Yeah he got he got like forty
five more bikes I said, butyou see that nigga face. Well okay,
so let me ask you this then, So, I mean Cole took

(17:06):
slight jabs, he didn't really getthe full brut that that that record,
like it was mostly Drake. Doyou think Cole should respond, Yeah,
I missed us are just for yourown personal reason, you won't colder response.
I missed. I missed like rapbeef over rap, I really do.

(17:29):
Okay. I have fun with likethe more personal shit, like you
know, this ship like clearly goingon between Future and Drake. I think
that'll be entertaining on the Internet fora while. The push and shit was
entertaining, But like, I justmissed the niggas rapping against each other,
Like, yeah, nigga, youcan't fucking rap like this ship with with
Benny and fred Like Freddie, grantedthat's going on with Benny, got his

(17:52):
girl, yeah, putting chains onher and everything. Yeah, but like
but it started kind of basis ofa disagreement. Then niggas kind of a
barred each other and then they said, you know, Freddie getting jumped and
so at a restaurant, at arestaurant in Miami, you're taking this bitchure
putting chains on it like I'm cooland pretty Gibbs too. That's crazy.

(18:15):
That's your man's listen so so separately. Was that was an album? Man?
So what would you say if Drakerespoted the future? Because I feel
like it's more personal. If I'mif I'm talking to Drake, listen,
remember how you made make it toa club record Future Future do the same

(18:36):
to you, brother, So youwould if you if you out records last
year, if you was, ifyou was Drake's counselor or advisor, yeah,
you advised him not to. Iwas telling me to go finish this
album, leading them niggas alone.The thing I don't hate about Future though,

(18:57):
it's not that Future is lyrical oranything. But if you this future
that nigga will talk about I sleptwith your bitch none in her mouth and
then I flew her to you andshe kissed you like future would say some
ship like that and it be trueand yeah, and that's you know,
you gotta get the strap because youcan't be talking like that. Leave them

(19:19):
niggas alone. That's on point,Jake, And don't go who you lead
them niggas alone. Go be apop star. Yea, go sell out
this amazing world to your own congratulations. Go do another album. Lead them
niggas alone, not for problems nomore. Yeah, what's the sony that
I love? Bad bitches? That'smy fucking problem. Yeah, Let bad

(19:41):
bitches be your fucking problem. Notthese niggas. Future and Metro. Then
they even squashed whatever beef they socalled half back in the past. They
shaking hands like bloods and crips,like you said, enemy of my enemy.
What's the name of the album?What was it called? We don't
trust you, We don't trust you? And so I'm coming together? Man,

(20:03):
So I guess, I guess uhby the words of the great a
up. Leave them niggas alone,all three of them, niggas phone man
telling you you don't want it,you don't how you also saw other areas
that are inet niggas saying the Kendrickversus mid. How do you think about
them niggas? You think they youthink they couldn't understand because some of the

(20:30):
lyrics were like a double n tandrato like some of the stuff he was
saying. It may sound mid,but if you know the meaning behind the
words, like that's That's why Idon't get about Niggas talking about his mid
and ship. I was giving niggaspasses for being stupid. I'm totally done
with that. We've done it withCole, We've done with Kendrick, We've
done with Walle, We used todo it with like with most death back

(20:51):
in it. You Niggas is juststupid. It's fine to be stupid.
I mean reading now, That's whatI'm saying. It's fine to be stupid.
Now you have you can you canaccess all of human information with the
fucking phone in your hand. Yeah, including literary devices of how things break

(21:12):
down, history, lessons of howthings would correlate to one another. There
are fucking websites called genius dot comthat will break down lyrics for your stupid
ass. You're right, so I'mnot giving niggas passes anymore. If you
thought it was meant, guess what, you're a fucking idiot and it's that

(21:33):
simple. Okay, all right,Well, so the words of the great
ad gonna play your socials in theresaying no where to find you. I
got locked out on my Twitter.Oh okay, well never mind and brace
up on Twitter. I'm just therefull time now. All right, So
I don't know why niggas thought thatmy Twitter was something to steal, but
they did. All right, solet's see you send me the lyrics to
the first signs. Won't go overa little bit here we're talking about.

(21:56):
This is the reason why we said, well, people has been talking about
Future and Drake having a previous beefbecause did you see Future did an interview
and he said, what a timeto be alive doesn't exist? He said
the album doesn't exist town, soI know it does. You have to
say it. But everybody was onederlike what's going on with with with those

(22:17):
guys because they give us hiss right, they give us joints. So uh,
this is on the intro. Thisis what Future says. He says,
you and niggas number one fan dog. That's crazy, right, See
yeah, don't do that, Bro, don't do that. You and niggas
don't want fan dog sneak thisss.And I don't understand dog pill talking acting

(22:40):
like a fed dog. I don'tneed another I don't need another fake friend.
Dog can't be about a whole becausewe sharing dogs. Bro in your
feelings, nigga, you why youplaying dog. Give her backshots while she
laying down. Keep the glock cock. I don't trust host top shot.

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Are going for the gusto like areal dog. I don't muck holes.
Get the low. You a JohnDoe bubble eye binds on a whole rapping.
So pretend you a hole. Now, I figured nigga tag a nigga,
tagging nigga though, ain't no tappingin better blow tired of popping pills.

(23:25):
But he blessed, Yeah, uh, you're I don't like to enter
this into the records. Why youdon't leave that nigga alone? Man?
It's alone? Man, Anything anything, anything stand out to you with the
with the that's that's a crazy that'sa crazy verse. Any stand out to

(23:48):
you on that verse? Besides it, give you a bit back shot,
keep it, keep it blocked,keep it block cocked. Though, Yeah,
call nigga you are a number onefan. Nah, you can't.
You can't say I'm number one fan, he said, Pillow, talking like
a fed, called him a fakefriend. Can't be about a hole because

(24:15):
we're sharing. You can't call mea number one fan. So so if
he says, can't be about ahole because we're sharing. Is it really
about a girl then? Because tome when I read that, it's like
because to me, futures like whatis this about? This can't be about
no chick because we're sharing. SoI think even future is confused about what's
going on. But you know DrakeIs, he's a light skinned nigga.

(24:37):
He's emotional, so maybe so maybefor him it's like it's about the girl.
But futures like a nigga from future, like from Atlanta like that.
Yeah, sharing, you're not rocking, It's like nah, noah in your
feelings, nigga, why are youplaying give her backshots while she laying down?
Keep the glock cock? I don'ttrust hos yo yo, I need

(25:02):
made to put this in my LinkedInbio. Hey, you know how you
get please? You know how youget your You get a few lines for
your bio. That might be mybio. Man, this nigga, Hey,
y'all thiggas maybe a future do spending? Maybe because he does it in
like a like a a it's adifferent type of flow. So like when

(25:22):
he rap it on song, it'slike the lyrics is mad. But Yo,
when you read that ship like,come on, man, he has
no inflection to his voice beside.Correct, that's what it is. It's
more of a melody. Yeah,he's more concerned with how it sounds melodic.
Yeah, melodic. Yeah, butI mean it's so bar It's like
it's so hard so uh no,I might get the strap now actually just

(25:48):
reading this like that's crazy. Yeah. No, at the time, it's
Jesus. Uh was it was itprison Prison Blessings that it was called.
Yeah, President of Dolens is touh Drake to Drake, Yeah, man,

(26:08):
whatever chick they're talking about, I'mgonna say, why would you ever
want to start a beef put thenigga over a chick when you know said
nigga, you didn't get an autographof Scottie Pippen and yeah, smash his
bitch. Twenty years later, Ithink we talked about this, then we

(26:29):
talk about this Drake in future.Look at their music. They're kind of
same person. It's just that futurefutures honest about who he is, Yes,
Drake, Yes, that's the difference. And you can tell in the
music too, Drake, Drake,you're telling hose he love him and everything,

(26:52):
and then the next record be dissinghim. Yeah, future ain't never
hold even like even on like eventhough I'm gonna show you off like a
trophy, he necessarily say he lovedher. He's like, you're bad.
I want to show you off atrophy. They just they just them niggas.
Bro, Like you know what itis a future. So I respect

(27:17):
him so much. He's him onehundred percent of the time, and like
I know that nigga, I canrelate. I'm here one hundred percent of
the time. Drake is four differentniggas. So if you get a photo
or we get a photo on socialmedia that says six am in Belize,

(27:41):
oh, we want to listen tothat as a family. Okay, all
right, I might like if thatcome out, I might ask you to
not listen to it so we canlisten to it pre pod and then have
the lyrics up and just's do afull breakdown and then speculate about what's gonna
happen. Yeah, I mean,because times Sam Dragon is a motherfucker.

(28:03):
But again, you know, reallysome bullshit if you do some ship like
seven am in l A or somethingthat you know who he's talking about,
or five am in Atlanta, thisbox Atlanta in Atlanta, yeah. So

(28:26):
if he do five am in Atlanta, the only thing I'm listening to that
to that day is Atlanta radio station. That's it I need to I need
to hear the voices of the peoplein Atlanta tell me what they think.
So did you go back to listento the first person Shooter? No,
I've heard that song like a milliontimes. Was there a sneak diss in
there towards Kendrick? No? No, what's this and Kendrick he's just like

(28:52):
he just hates thinkers. H Onlything that could come close to the disc
is when Jacob said, who's thebest army Kendrick for me and Ken just
like, what you mean, who'sthe best? I'm the best nigga talking
about it. Yeah, that's whathe'd be saying in his quiet house alone

(29:15):
or whatever, because if you're listeningaround just around the big staffers, it
don't sound he wouldn't chicken no more. It's not after that record. They
was fighting, man, he usedto be. He'd be getting angry.
You're like, fuck these niggas,man, I'm the best. Fun Um,
go back outside, tell these niggason the best. Well. The
reason why I asked, I'm tryingto pull the lyrics up. Can you

(29:37):
just hate these light skinned niggas?Man, That's all it is. It
is that song saying that song firstperson should know the metro boom that like
that? Like that? Yeah,he just what the fuck doing do one?
He hates one. He hates lightskinned niggas. That's what. He
hates light skinned niggas too. HeDrake even more, and Drake's his light

(30:02):
skinned that's crazy. Three. Ithink he dislikes Cole what it was we'll
do an album together? Yeah again, I think he did. I don't
think he hates him. I thinkhe just kind of dislikes him. And
I also think that he hates anynigga that says they're the best. Oh,
this is why I asked that hesays it right here so and that

(30:22):
nigga adds be killing me. Thatshit had me in tears. But how
you gonna do that in the middleof a verse? That's Kendrick. Though
he said fuck sneak dissing First personShooter. I hope they came with three
switches. That's why I asked,like, was there a line in First
person Shooting that we missed? Itjust came down to Cole saying, who's

(30:45):
the big three, Aubrey, Kendrickor me something like that, Sorry the
league. That was the line.That was a dis though, no,
no one does by Kendrick. SoKendrick thought that was a sneak disc Okay,
all right. Kendrick got voices inhis head like Randy Orton, Man,
well they actually come out on track. If you then them different voices

(31:07):
he'd be doing. Yeah, he'sjust angry. Shout out the Kendrick and
Drake and not dream Sorry, shotthe Kendrick future metro booming, we don't
trust you and praise cond I wantyou to hear if you listen to the
album, if you think for sureeverybody involved. You know, Sean put
out a single yesterday too. Iknow there was a lot going on.

(31:30):
Wait, big Sean put out asingle? Yeah, that was That was
another thing on on Twitter two peoplewere talking about it was like why every
time Big Sean gets some Sean Kendrickgot a step on it. No,
that's true though, that's fact.So it's how like NAS released something.
I didn't know Big Sean released somethingyesterday? Uh is it a single?

(31:52):
Yeah? It's fire like the besttwo verses of yesterday it was number one
the Kendrick and number two Sean thatprecision fire. He's not even on the
Oh there is precision Okay. Isaw that. I saw the cover and
I was like, like, isthat a Frank Ocean re release came or
what's going on? I'm like,oh, ship showing Yeah, I like

(32:14):
this roll out. Sean's going rightnow with the videos in the crib,
him just rapping the single. Youthink you think you think he should after
what happened yesterday? Do you thinkhe should slow down the momentum of his
like the way he like For instance, obviously he had momentum he released that

(32:38):
freestyle he had at his house,and I bet he thought, all right,
I got some men at the endof their talking, I'm gonna joint.
I'm gonna drop this single tomorrow,not knowing that that's gonna do.
So it's just like you think youthink Sean should chill. I think keep.
You can't predict what Drake and Coolergonna do. Like you'd be like,

(33:02):
all right, let me slow downbecause Dreke probably gonna drop a record
next week and so it's cold.But what if they don't then you sold
out for nothing? You think't Seanshit entered himself in the conversation. No,
I don't. I don't think hewants to Sean. He's a happily
married man and yeah, you heardthe freestyle he's all about just his peace

(33:22):
and tranquility. Yeah, and therecord. Well he also addressed some of
that stuff too though, Like hesaid, I don't have the energy to
keep up with your big three andkeep rapping with him. Okay that was
the line. Yeah, Like he'slike, I'm clol over here, man,
I'm good. I got houses,trying trying to build a school,

(33:43):
like yeah, like he got allthe things he's trying to do. He
a father and ship a new father. Yeah. Are you saying that Cole
Dre's got a whole family? Well, he doesn't really live with them,
but you look at me, likedoes he like does he have a whole

(34:04):
family? I think Kendrick does allright, Kendrick got kids, Yeah he's
got don't you got wife too?I mean I heard mister Morland the Big
Steppers. I don't know, Idon't know. He he did a whole
song confessing that he less over awhite woman. And yeah, I don't
know, But I don't know ifthese niggas have families. And I know
Shan does. I know Sean does. So that's my point. Like he's

(34:28):
a newer father, he's a newerfather. Yeah, so like he's trying
to do that. You know,he's got other things going on in his
life and he's he's just trying tofind you think Sean. You think Sean
could if he wanted to keep upwith them with Cole, Kendrick and Drake.
Yes you think so, yes,yes, all right, yes,

(34:50):
of course you believe that. Ofcourse you believe that. Of course that
don't mean nothing. How long Howlong have you been a Lions fan?
Yeah so you're thirty five? Thirty? Okay, so for thirty five years
you've been You've been kicked, stompedon, spin on curve, stomps being

(35:15):
a Lions fan. Did you enjoythat? Okay? All right, that's
there's the reason why I bring thatup. Maybe strong thought strong though,
speaking of home teams, that's funny, John, tell me why in your
bracket you had Oakland meeting Kentucky OaklandUniversity in Rochester Hill's message, He's done

(35:39):
a lot on your bracket you hadthat happen. Wait, did I really
no? No one did? Oh? Okay, I was looking around like,
hold on, I was like,did I really no one? Did
you see that? You see thatwhite dude though, you know, talking
abou dude shooting the threes that hewas shooting could test it. He was

(35:59):
called off screens. My man,was he shot ten threes or he shot
word than ten, but he madeten threes. Bro, you're not beating
thathing. This season he is attemptedthree and fifty five field goals, three
hundred and forty seven of them overthree threes. Bro, handing his face,
everything didn't matter. My man wason. That is insane. They

(36:22):
said somebody on Oapens team was runningdown court all game like Kentucky ain't seen
no killers yet. That's what wasthat youth? That's y'all ain't seen no
killers yet. That's not so youwould say Trey Niggas is different. Man.
I don't even know if anybody fromthat team is from the city.

(36:44):
They've been there long enough. Youjust get so close to the proximity you
get to Detroit arrogance. I'm saying, y'all, y'all got Jared off wearing
buffs. He's an LA kid,so it makes sense you get this Detroit
arrogance about you, Like I ain'tseen no killers. So so I got
a notification saying Oakland be Kentucky.And at first I was like, okay,

(37:05):
I think it was that big ofa deal. I was like,
okay. So then I was onTwitter and then somebody posted the highlights just
of that dude, the white dude, and I'm like, you know,
he's scorching them. It didn't matterwhat they did. I got an alert
that it was close. And sowhen I cut off Love is Blind,
I've been to all Love Is Blindseason six phenomenal anyway, and I put

(37:30):
that game on and then they showedthose highlights and I was like, I
only know that dude's name, butit's something about about white players when they
do the Jordan's shrug. It's overfor you. You ain't winning that game,
It's over. He shot some ofthem, things like falling, falling
away, leaning back, he wasdo you see the one where he caught

(37:51):
his momentum was going to the left. He caught it. He's still leaning
to the left, fading to theleft, and shot it. I'm like
what I was like, Oh,it's different. That's different. Kid had
no offers coming out of high school, spent two years at Hillsdale lead to
college. He's a six year senior. He's a six year singier. There's

(38:15):
a lot of those in college spardsright now because of the COVID year.
Oh okay, that makes sense.Yeah, So how do you feel about
niggas calling saying John Calipari is theDoc Rivers of college basketball. He's had
some of the best players in collegebasketball and as barely any title. I
forget. So he had Anthony Davis, DeMarcus Cousins, John Wall, Uh,

(38:38):
Aaron Fox, Darren Fox book,I said, did I say that's
it? Darren Rose already in Memphis? No title there, Tyler Hero.
Yeah, No, he's not winningrings. Any want he won? He

(39:02):
won that one title? Anthony Davis? Right, did he win the time?
Anth Davis? I think, Ithink that's what we want the title
with, all right, But yeah, like he's not he's not winning rings.
And he also needs to like changehis approach, like because this whole

(39:23):
freshman thing it ain't working. Thesenineteen year olds can't hang with these twenty
two year olds. So the lastKentucky championship was twenty twelve. Oh no,
definitely was man that was on thatasked him. Oh yeah it was.

(39:44):
It was Anthony Davis, Michael Kick, Gil Chris Wow. Oh wow,
I haven't heard Yeah, me either, Anthony Davis, Dorian. I
remember Terrence Jones, he was onthat team, Michael Ki, Gil Chris
Jones. Sigh, get a goodNBA career, Markqueize Teague. Wow,

(40:05):
is that the youngest team, that'sthe youngest tea brother? Yeah, I
forgot about him. Darius Miller.Uh, these dudes are not even Jon
Hood. He's just not even theleague. The only ones in the league
now is Anthony Davis. Yah.So twenty twelve is last time we win
a title. Look how young helooks. You know, eighteen Bill,

(40:30):
The whole New proper eighteen year oldsevery year was stressed me out too,
well, I think what So whathelp Calipari is he was known as yo,
you come play from me one forone year, I'll get you to
the league. That don't matter nomore. With the nil, it doesn't
matter no more. These guys getpaid anywhere they go. So Calipari,
he's gonna to find a different way. Of he's he's in the same boats,

(40:51):
Nick Saban. Nick Saban said,fuck, I can't do it no
more. That may happen to CaliParti too. He may just be like,
yo, I just I can't keepup. He's not the you know,
the right thing to get these topfreshmen in. But he needs to
sit him for a little bit,like have him actually developed, and he
needs to hit that transfer portal hardand get get some older niggas. Yeah,

(41:13):
like, imagine this talented that freshmanclass he has. Now, imagine
if they stay for two years,them niggas as juniors and then still recruiting
high quality freshmen and bringing some transferportal in niggas in to keep the standard
going up. Were going to thetournament every year, so you guys get
real deep basketball experience. Like hejust needs to like get older niggas on

(41:39):
his team and convince somebod these youngniggas to stick around for a little bit
and he'd be all right. Sowe didn't talk about this or get your
quick thoughts, Michigan. Let gowith Juwan Howard. How you feel it
was time you got Howard punching niggas. I mean, here's the thing,
like, hey, Joe Horrod almostgot with the trainer. They had to

(42:00):
let the trainer go. Yeah,like the punching nigga thing was one fan
you know whatever, right ride forthe home team. Yeah, but the
problem was he had that medical scareand the team just kind of cratered and
he couldn't bring him back. Andat that point, like it was historically
bad and you like, you knowin this era of how these kids moved,

(42:23):
they you weren't keeping Doug McDaniel andthey lost the recruit and then it
was it was just time to go. It was promising. At first,
it was very promising. I thoughthe's gonna be like the hardball for us
on the team to the tournament thathad no business going there. Yeah,
we went to the Sweet sixteen year. Yeah, yeah, it was looking

(42:45):
good. And then like you lookat the Big Ten, Like the Big
ten's always real good basketball, fuckingProdue is always good, but it's always
pretty open. Outside of Purdue beingthe standard, you could always be the
number two team. Yeah, we'rehaving the Michigan State this year. I
mean they in the tournament. Yeah, but like but again, the Illinois,

(43:09):
Michigan State and everybody else isn't goodenough to worry. You can't say
I ain't gonna put the team togetherto beat them Perdue. They got every
year. That's a train. That'sa little roal train. They got that
thing rolling. And that's my thing. Like if you look at that and
you're like, well, if wecan't put together anything to be number two

(43:30):
in the Big ten with this guyanymore, we gotta move on. I
want him to go. Get JohnLee lost that. Where's he at now?
I know he left Cleveland. Headvising, Now he's coaching somewhere.
He's coaching. Okay, all right, I didn't know that. Google,

(43:52):
Google, Well, you know whatBline going to Cleveland. You know,
it's not like we let him go. He went to Clevel when and he
and the team was in good hands. And then Juwan Howard out here fighting
niggas on the court, beating uphis own train, not coaching right now,
that's what I thought. I thoughthe was advising or something. The
senior advisors to the NBA. Ohoh no, yeah, we gotta get

(44:15):
him. Come on home, Comeon home, guy, noah, fuck
that advisor ship. Now you needto be on the court. Yeah,
because is there any alumni you thinkwe should get you think you think that
that train sale after what Jordan Howarddid. I mean, I don't.

(44:36):
I don't know if any of ouralumni like want to coach. That's the
thing. I mean obviously, likeyou know, your mind go straight to
Jayen Rowse. You're like, I'venever seen him coach. I don't know
if he wants to coach. Like, if he's coaching, he has a
whole school to coach. Juwan Howard, Jalen Roads bring some swags to our
team. He would probably bringing backto Black Sox. I think he'd be

(45:00):
good at it. But then whenyou think of other alumni, I don't
think Chris Webber would be a goodcoach. I think he was. He's
one of those guys, like youknow, some guys are just so good
that you're like, why can't youjust do it like this, like Jordan's
Yeah, Jordan's yeah magic. Ithink, Well, Larry Larry Bird was
pretty good because Larry Bird to thatPacers team, but they kept running to

(45:23):
kept running to Jordan. Yeah,you're right, yeah so but Larry,
but that team was good in theEastern Conference. They cant run to Jordan.
Yeah, but again Larry got frustratedon some point. He's like he
just not It's a Jordan effect,man. Yeah, yeah, you're looking
to see Web in College's like justbe just be me. I don't know,
I was just that good in college. I don't think he could do

(45:44):
it. I don't know if JimmyJackson's coach. I don't know what Jimmy
Jackson is though, but he's commentating. Yeah. Yeah, So again I
mean BELI and be good to bringhim back because he he knows the program,
he knows all that stuff, andMichigan we got a big alumni,
so just give him the bag tocome back. Jamal Crawford is a hoopers
hooper. Yeah, but he Ithink I think he still has a hoopye

(46:07):
hooper mindset though he's still out heretrying to play. So yeah, no
way, anyway we get he's outhere with bucket buckets. Yeah, yeah,
he he could probably play on ourteam today, you mean truthfully,
like I wouldn't mind him as anassistant, Okay, yeah, like Mike
Hart learned learning the tricks of thetrade, and then I mean, because

(46:28):
who who better to teach you howto cross the nigg up and go get
a bucket. Jamal Crawford like that'sthe one guy I think, Uh,
but yeah, no, we wegot some rebuilding. Still get John b.
Lion, just bring him back,Just bring him back, teach him.
N I l teaching trans with Johnb. Lion. We went to
two national title games, lost bothVilla Villanova. No one was Villanova,

(46:53):
one was Louisville. Oh Louisville.Okay, yeah, oh that's right,
because wait Devins with who he's aVillanova? White Dante my Man came off
the bench and put thirty on us, scorched us, scorched. I was,
I was like, who is thisdude? Scorched us. I've been
watching Villanova that season, so Iknew I was not it was about.

(47:15):
I was like, I think wecan beat him, but like, if
they get going, didn't that teamthey have Josh Harton Brunson, Yes,
and they didn't even kill us.It was a dude off the bench,
White Dante. I don't I don'tever want White Dante on the Pistons because
I don't want her root for himever. I respect hum, I don't

(47:35):
ever want to root for him.That's insane. It hurts my soul.
All right, we gotta get upout of here. It was fun.
Yeah, quick pod we got Wegot a lot of stuff we didn't get
to that we'll get to next week. Star Wars Acolyte Marvel nineteen is Star
Wars Acolyte June right, I sawthe trailer. Yeah, and then so

(47:57):
how is let me ask you,how is the X Men thing? So
they're they're doing a character repair onside. Class like a motherfucker. Okay.
Other than that, it's great.It reminds you when you were a
kid. No, it's better,okay, I said, I check it
out. If you rewatches like theoriginal, it feels like a kid starts
and there's some there's some issues there, like you watch this one like now,

(48:20):
they're playing very close attention to everydetail and storytelling and making it it
is it all launched that once onDisney Plus or this is the first two
episodes out right now? Oh sothey're doing it okay? And what day
they drop? What day did theydrop? I'm not sure. I'm know
the first to drop on Tuesday.I'm not sure if they're keeping that going.
And I will say one very notablenoticable change about this show. They

(48:43):
increase more powers like a motherfucker.Okay, now with more changes into you,
he has your abilities, got it? Like it makes sense though he
should have your ability. In thefirst episode he changes into Colossus and then
niggas came king thing. So Iappreciate that that they're doing that with more
if. I was like, Oh, it's pretty cool. So I want

(49:06):
to I still haven't seen that yet, so I still gotta watch. I'm
glad. I'm glad you told methat it's all not launched, so that
way I can at least catch up. And then I want to see that
Nickelodeon doc too. I've been seeingit on Twitter about that, like just
like little clips. I'm like,I watched the first Well, we'll talk
about that one next week. Ohis that on who on HBO Max?
Okay, I watched the first episodeand I was like, I think I

(49:28):
watched part of the second episode before, like money and I Row or something,
and I was like, that's well. When we were kids, it
was like, oh, that's funny, you know what I mean, Like
we didn't we didn't put two andtwo together. But it makes me wonder
because my parents will watch stuff becauseI'm a kid. Parents watched that with
you too on on what parents wasthinking, the town they was watching this
stuff. Like, So the thingabout it is most of the stuff that

(49:49):
they talked about in the dock,it is like when we were kind of
aging out of Nickelodeon. Okay,so like now some of the stuff from
all that, you were like,oh yeah, just thinking how the foot
fetish them weird and he had areal obsession with money shots on kids and
weird, like you know, likethey were he always start chalking in people's

(50:14):
faces and slim and stuff like that. The money shots. It was weird.
It was very weird. But yeah, but everything else they started talking
about later on, like with likeTedophiles actually being in Nickelodeon and the more
creepier stuff that's like that's post us, that's like Drake and Josh Nickelodeon,

(50:38):
Amanda Biden show Nickelodeon. And sheain't been right since bro going going through
it. So people were like,I wish they would have got a Manda
Vines. I'm like, I don'tthink she wanted to relive any parts of
that in her life like that.Like you know, there's a story about
Frankie Yunas from you know, theshow. It's called God damn. The

(51:00):
sounds familiar. Frank is he theheavy set Mexican? No? No,
no, no, you don't whitekid. Hold on, Frankie, mute.
He was in I forgot he wasMalcolm in the Middle. So he
got in a car accident and afterit totally fine. Has no memory of

(51:24):
anything that Malcolm in the Middle atall. I wonder why something It is
a brain injury. Oh yeah,brain injury. Okay. I bet a
man of busy to have a braininjury absorbing in amount of money to just
be able to erase that whole partof her life. Yeah, that's crazy,
all right, I gotta see it. It's only what is it?

(51:46):
So? I usually talked about youand your shirts, but I give credit
today. It's like you knew thatwe were talking about the Kendrick confusion,
that you were to eat their shirtthis morning. That's fire way to be
on topic. That can find meTwitter, Bilbo's Wagons, s W A
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can hit me on Embrace up forthe embrace to turn up. I'll be

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Other than that, guys, don'tworry, We'll get our Saint Patrick's Day
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from that, Oh you beat that, I forgot you, man, And
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