What if your soul has been trained not to experience God?
In this profound and timely conversation, Steve Adams sits down with bestselling author John Eldredge to explore the themes of his new book, Experience Jesus—Really. Together, they confront one of the most overlooked realities of modern spiritual life: we’ve been discipled by distraction, noise, and digital overload—and it’s making it harder to connect with God.
From reclaiming ancient practices to becoming “ordinary mystics,” John and Steve guide listeners into a deeper, more intimate daily encounter with Jesus. You’ll discover the path back to healing, peace, and joy—through union with Christ.
🎧 Topics covered:
Why you can’t focus in prayer (and it’s not your fault)
What it really means to be a disciple of the internet
How to become an “ordinary mystic” and live like David, Paul, and Mary Magdalene
Simple practices to experience Jesus daily
Healing through presence—not performance
📲 Mentioned Resources:
Experience Jesus—Really (book + study guide) https://a.co/d/64HLow3
Wild at Heart Ministries — https://wildatheart.org/
The Pause App – new “Experiencing Jesus” module https://wildatheart.org/apps/one-minute-pause/
When Laid to Rest (Wild at Heart Pause App Music)
By Patrick Rundblad
⏱️ Chapters
00:00 – You’ve Been Discipled by the Internet
01:17 – Welcome to the Embracing Brokenness Podcast
03:03 – Why We Pause: A Prayer for Presence
06:00 – How’s Your Heart? Life, Ministry & Sabbath Rhythms
10:01 – Discipled by the Internet (Expanded)
14:18 – What Is an Ordinary Mystic?
17:39 – Is God's Love Really Better Than Life?
20:27 – Trauma, Anxiety & the Healing Union
24:29 – Why the Goal Is Union, Not Performance
28:04 – Why Experiencing God Feels So Hard (And What to Do About It)
29:56 – Examples of Ordinary Mystics
36:17 – Dwelling Within: The Indwelling Christ
39:00 – Practicing Union: Sacred Daily Rhythms
43:03 – One Thing You Can Do Today
44:31 – What Writing This Book Changed for John
45:56 – Closing
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