What happens when an undercover FBI agent faces down hate groups, cartels, and spiritual darkness—and still holds fast to his faith?
In this gripping Part 1 interview, Scott Payne, former FBI agent and New York Times bestselling author of Codename: Pale Horse, joins Steve to share his incredible journey. From growing up in a Christian home to infiltrating America's most violent criminal networks, Scott opens up about the challenges of living for Jesus in the darkest places on earth.
🎙️ You’ll hear:
How Scott integrated faith into his high-stakes undercover work
His chilling encounter with demonic forces that changed his life forever
The wild story of how a school talent show led to his first covert mission
The emotional and spiritual cost of his work—and how God used it all for redemption
🙏 Whether you're in ministry, law enforcement, or just looking for hope in hard places, this episode will both shock and inspire you.
📚 Codename: Pale Horse – Available now on Audible, Amazon, and everywhere books are sold. https://a.co/d/86MsDlg
Chapters
00:00 Undercover Operations: A High-Stakes Job
02:43 The Journey of a Christ Follower in Law Enforcement
05:56 Challenges and Triumphs in the FBI
08:45 The Path to Becoming an Undercover Agent
11:55 Childhood Influences and Early Experiences
14:53 The Impact of Peer Pressure and Identity
18:00 Spiritual Awakening and Transformation
20:54 Navigating the World of Law Enforcement
23:37 The Role of Faith in a Dangerous Profession
26:42 First Experiences in Undercover Work
29:58 Career Decisions and Law Enforcement Aspirations
41:25 The Evolution of Undercover Work
49:32 Infiltrating the Outlaws: A Deep Dive
01:00:33 The High-Stakes Drug Deal
01:11:55 Faith and Resilience in the Face of Danger
01:23:17 Redemption Stories and Community Support
Popular Podcasts
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
24/7 News: The Latest
The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.