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September 16, 2025 35 mins

The people we know may not be who they seem. That's the haunting message at the heart of this special true crime episode featuring listener-submitted stories about encounters with murderers who walked among them.

After kicking things off with a simple vodka martini, I share my fascination with true crime content before diving into the chilling submissions you've sent in. Unlike famous cases involving strangers, these stories hit closer to home, they're about coworkers, classmates, neighbors, and romantic partners who committed horrific acts that shocked everyone around them.

A high school boyfriend now serving time for vehicular manslaughter. A coworker who murdered his bride on their honeymoon. A cocktail waitress who stabbed her boyfriend to death in a drug-fueled rage. These stories remind us that killers aren't just the strangers we fear in dark alleys, they're often people we know, interact with, and trust.

Perhaps most disturbing is the account from a listener convinced her current coworker is a murderer. She describes his unnerving behavior in vivid detail, the way he studies people with an empty gaze, speaks in a calculated manner, and creates such a sense of dread that she refuses to share an elevator with him. Her gut feeling is so strong that she's certain he'll eventually make headlines.

These stories serve as stark reminders that life is precious and unpredictable. The father who lost his wife and child to a drunk driver had no warning his world would shatter that day. The honeymoon that should have marked the beginning of a life together instead became a crime scene.

What makes us human is our capacity for connection, but these stories reveal the darker side of our nature and the uncomfortable truth that we never truly know what someone is capable of. Share your own Gremlin stories, guidance requests, or gossip at emilytogremilypod@gmail.com or connect with me on Instagram and TikTok @emilytogremilypod

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
all right, cheers, guys.
Emily, emily to gremily herewith another solo episode.
Okay, a few things I want totalk about.
Actually, I made myself a listbecause usually I end up
forgetting and then when I goback and edit I'm like damn it,
I never said that.
Okay, so we're going to go inorder.
Number one the drink of theweek is just a vodka martini.

(00:35):
I didn't feel like gettingsuper fancy with it.
I used what I had in my quoteunquote bar.
So vodka martini is what wehave today.
It's a little strong so, andI've had two sips and I feel
like my eyes are watering.
But we're going to powerthrough All right.
Number two this is episode 22.

(00:56):
And I am so bummed that I didnot have my shit together last
week to mention the fact that itwas episode 21 and I should
have done like a cute littlecelebration like she turned 21.
I completely forgot.
Honestly, I thought that thatepisode was going to be episode
20.
I had it labeled as episode 20.

(01:16):
I really just like dropped theball.
I don't know where my mind was.
It wasn't here.
So, yeah, this is episode 22.
I'm really bummed.
I didn't do anything, but youknow whatever.
Also, last week.
I had mentioned that.
I really hoped that the video ofthe episode wouldn't go viral,

(01:38):
because I didn't have a tan on,I didn't have my nails done and
I just overall felt like Ilooked like blah, for lack of a
better word.
And then it's like the universespoke to me.
I edited the entire video,uploaded it to YouTube.
I've been having real bigissues with YouTube lately.
If someone has like some greatideas for me, or maybe I mean

(02:02):
I'm I'm not a tech girly, Idon't really know what I'm doing
.
So, anyway, it takes fuckingforever to upload to YouTube and
I thought everything was likeall gravy.
I set it aside, thought it wasgoing to go through and then on
Wednesday, the day after theepisode aired and was supposed
to upload and whatnot, it showedme I went on YouTube and it

(02:25):
said that the video couldn't beprocessed.
So I decided that I would putup clips on social medias you
know TikTok, instagram but Ididn't feel like re uploading it
to YouTube.
So that episode is not onYouTube.
There's only been two otherepisodes other than last week's

(02:45):
episode that have not beenuploaded to YouTube.
The first one was I believe itwas Jay's very first episode
that her and I did together andit didn't upload.
Well, actually, it didn'trecord.
We got the first part of thevideo like recorded and then we
decided we wanted to try to befancy and use this new little

(03:07):
gadget that she had gotten.
So we used it, butunfortunately it didn't do its
job very well, I don't know.
It sucked.
Basically it sucked, and itjust stopped the recording
completely, so it only recordedhalf of the episode.
So, yeah, that episode didn'tget uploaded.
Luckily, the great parts of theepisode were filmed so I was

(03:30):
able to put up clips onInstagram and TikTok.
The other episode I did notupload was the episode I did
with Robert, and that wasbecause he didn't want to show
his beautiful face and it feltlike I don't know.
The video just felt weird, justme sitting there talking to,
like talking off camera.

(03:51):
I just felt like it lookedweird and a little narcissistic,
so I just decided not to uploadit.
So, yes, three episodes out ofthe 22 or out of the 21 weren't
uploaded.
Yeah, so this one will be.
Unless something terribly ishappening behind the scenes
right now and it's not filming,it's going to be uploaded, even

(04:13):
if I look like poo, because I'veuploaded episodes before and
I'm like, oh my God, I hate theway I look, but you know it's
it's my own fault, what can wedo?
Ok, and the last thing I wantedto talk about was last week I
kicked it off to you guys sayingif you guys have any crime
gossip that you wanted to sendin, to send it in, and I was

(04:34):
afraid of what I was gonna get.
But you guys delivered it.
You sent in some great gossip.
So for this episode I have twogremlin stories and then one,
two, three, four, five, sixpieces of gossip.
This entire episode is justgoing to be the crime episode.
So with that, I need to includea trigger warning at the

(04:58):
beginning of this that thisepisode is going to talk about
death and murder.
Basically, that's sometimes asensitive subject for people.
But yeah, this episode is goingto be just nothing but true
crime Stuff that you guys havesent me the two gremlin, one of
the gremlin stories I had gottenbefore I put out that call to

(05:20):
action, but I picked it becauseit involved some crime, um, and
then the rest you guys recentlyjust sent in this past week.
So thank you so much fordelivering that and yeah, this
is just like the true crimeepisode very excited.
Um, yeah, like I said, myboyfriend and I, all we watch is

(05:42):
just like true crime.
Um, we just binged watch thisshow.
It's crazy how quickly we cango through a show, especially
like on the ID channel.
It's not like they do likethousands of episodes of a
series.
It's kind of annoying becausethey like get you hooked on a
series and then they only putout like 20 episodes of it and
you're like God damn it and theepisodes are only like a half

(06:03):
hour long but whatever of it.
And you're like God damn it andthe episodes are only like a
half hour long, but whatever.
We just finished watching thisshow called your Worst Nightmare
.
That was a really good one.
So if anyone needsrecommendations, that one's
really good.
Other ones that we have watchedwere like Fear Thy Neighbor,
fear Thy Roommate.
I think they were like kind ofgoing together like hand in hand
.
There have been others I willput out like a recommendation

(06:25):
list for like people who areinterested.
Also, last night we just watchedit was on Netflix that new
documentary Unknown Number.
I don't want to give it away,but what it's about is this girl
, this high school girl and herboyfriend.
I think they're like 14, 15years old.
They are being cyber stalkedand cyber bullied through these

(06:50):
text messages through an unknownnumber hence the title and it
becomes so much that you knowit's a very small town in
Michigan that they live in.
So then they start becomingsuspicious of everyone in the
town.
It really weighs on them and,at 14 and 15 years old, you have
enough to worry about.
You don't need to worry aboutsomeone you know cyber stalking

(07:13):
you and bullying you.
And this person who's sendingthese text messages are telling
the girl like you need to killyourself.
You know you're ugly, you'rethis, this, you're that just
like really hateful language.
And the documentary exploreswhat happened during it, how the
FBI got involved and how theFBI figured out who was sending

(07:37):
the messages, which is, um, it'sa doozy of one, because I knew
it had.
I knew it was going to happenbecause of TikTok, because you
know I live on TikTok, but myboyfriend did not know and when
he saw it he was like what thefuck?
Like it was, it was wild.
So I recommend that it was agreat one.

(07:57):
It's on Netflix Unknown numberI think it just came out, maybe
like last week.
So, so, as as you guys arelistening to this, I guess two
weeks ago, but I would recommendthat.
Um, but yeah, if you guys areinterested in like true crime
recommendations and whatnot, letme know I'll put those out.
I we always just watch it onHBO max and you could like go

(08:17):
through channel and we go to theID channel and then just like
find something.
There's some good shows onthere, so yeah, so if you're
interested in those, check itout.
And with that we're gonna startwith the two Gremlin stories
that were submitted and thenwe're gonna go into Gremlin
gossip.
No Gremlin guidance today,because it felt weird to throw

(08:39):
that in in the middle of suchdarkness of this episode.
So maybe next time, but thisone it's all crime and let's
start with Gremlin Stories.
Actually, I'm gonna have adrink first, because we're about
to get into it.
Okay, the first one comes to usfrom Roxanne.
Roxanne says I was partyingdown in Miami for a friend's

(09:03):
birthday and we, of course, allgot super drunk.
After a long night we decided tocall it quits and head back to
the hotel.
My friend calls an Uber for agroup of four and we were all
swaying on the sidewalk waiting.
Finally he pulls up and we allsmush into the van.
It was one of those party Ubersthat are decked out in disco

(09:25):
lights and playing loud music.
And the car wasn't the onlything that was partying.
Our driver was high, in allcapital letters, and not just a
couple bumps down the road, high, I mean.
He had been partying for days.
His eyes are as wild as hishair, his teeth are chattering a

(09:45):
mile a minute and his fingersare nervously tapping the wheel.
Our hotel was about two milesaway from the club, but this guy
drove at the speed of light andwas bouncing in between cars
and lanes like a madman.
We were scared to death.
The ride took less than fiveminutes, but by the time we made
it we had all sobered up out offear from our experience.

(10:08):
I told my friend who ordered theUber to report him, but she's
such a relentless people pleaserand gave him a five star rating
.
So we almost died, gremlins,but luckily I'm alive and able
to write about it.
Roxanne, oh my God, I'm aliveand able to write about it.
Roxanne, oh my God, roxanne,roxanne's friend, you need to
give him a no star.

(10:30):
Can you do no stars on Uber?
I don't know One star, becauseif you do lower than like a four
star, they ask you why, girl,you need to report that.
I get it, it's Miami and youknow Miami has that reputation.
But, girl, like safety first.
He could have killed you guys,he could kill someone else, he

(10:50):
could get into an accident.
He could hit a pedestrian.
He could.
Anything could have happened.
And it's safety first.
Yeah, I'm sure this guy is usedto it because he does it all
the time, but that doesn't makeit OK.
Like the point of ordering anUber is to know that you're in
safe.
You're putting your safety insomeone else's hands.
You don't want to be out, youknow, drinking and having a good

(11:12):
time and celebrating,celebrating your friend's
birthday, and then you get intoan Uber and the guy's, you know,
worse off than you are.
That's terrifying.
Luckily, I've never had anexperience like this.
I have been in some unsafeUbers, just like we're, not like
because the guy was high ordrunk.
He just like drove reallyrecklessly and it's scary and I

(11:35):
have, you know, I did feel likea Karen at the time when I
reported it, but the way he tooklike at first I was like maybe
I'm just being a little dramatic.
So I got out of the car.
The way he pulled away from the.
At first I was like maybe I'mjust being a little dramatic.
So I got out of the car.
The way he pulled away from thesidewalk I was like, oh my God,
like this, this man needs tonot be driving for Uber.
So always report a bad Uberexperience.

(11:58):
Yeah, because we call Uber sothat you know we're putting our
safety in other people's hands,which is a hard enough job as it
is being.
You know young women, you knowthere's a lot of scary people
out there.
We don't need our Uber driversto fucking add to the fear.
Please and thank you.
All right, and the next one.

(12:18):
Oh, considering what I justsaid, the next one is from Viv.
What I just said, the next oneis from Viv.
Viv said this happened a fewweeks ago while out celebrating
my birthday.
Leo twins, my boyfriend and Iwere out drinking in the
downtown Chicago area.
I was starting to get sloppydrunk so he decided it was time
for us to go home.
We're outside waiting for ourUber when right in front of us,

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we witness a hit and run.
This car comes zooming over andhits these two girls walking
across the street and then takesoff.
The police were called and theambulance takes the two girls
away.
And because we were witnesses toa crime, we were interviewed by
the police.
My boyfriend gave a much betterstatement than I did, but it
shocked me so much that myadrenaline kind of woke me up.

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We later found out it was adrunk driver who was later
caught and arrested.
Thank God, not a very happyending to my gremlin birthday
night, viv.
Like I just said, drunk driving, whether you're high or drunk,
it needs to stop.
Hopefully this guy wasn't anUber driver and had passengers

(13:26):
in his vehicle.
And she never said whathappened to the two girls.
Let's hope it was just I don'tknow some bumps and bruises.
I would hate to think thatsomething worse happened to them
.
Yeah, as of right now I don'tknow.
Knock on wood that I've neverbeen hit by a car hit.

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I've never hit something elsewith my vehicle.
Yeah, I've luckily neverwitnessed this kind of thing.
It's, that's scary.
I wouldn't wish to see that.
I like true crime but, like Isaid last week, I don't want to
be a part of it.
So, yes, so thank you, roxanneand Viv, for those two gremlin

(14:07):
stories.
And now we're getting into themeat of the episode, the gremlin
gossip.
Like I said, you guys deliveredon it.
This is just some of what Ireceived.
There is more, but yeah, Idon't want to go through all of
it.
And then what if I don'treceive anything else for, like
gremlin gossip crime?
If I can turn this into likekind of like a little mini

(14:28):
series, I'd like to.
So I picked the ones that camethrough first.
I did make all of theseanonymous.
As a matter of fact, I believeall of them were, with the
exception of one, and I justdecided to omit the name given
the gravity of what was talkedabout and discussed.

(14:50):
So, yes, again, trigger warningthis does deal with death
murder.
Yeah, let's hope no one'ssensitive to that.
I'm going to take another drinkbecause we got some crazy
submissions today.

(15:10):
Okay, so the first gremlingossip from Anonymous says so.
Do we all work with murderers?
I have some gossip that isn'treally gossip because it made
the news.
A male co-er of mine marriedhis high school sweetheart and,
while on their honeymoon,murdered her.
It shocked us all.

(15:31):
I wouldn't have pegged him asthe murdering type, but I guess
you never know.
Anonymous, yeah, that's crazy.
She didn't say the age of themale coworker who murdered his
high school sweetheart.
I'm assuming he did it for likelife insurance, because why

(15:52):
would you go through an entirewedding?
Like planning a wedding isfrustrating.
There's no way he wasfrustrated with her throughout
the whole thing and then decidedto kill her on the honeymoon.
There has to be like a lifeinsurance reason behind it.
So I assume I don't know.
Maybe I shouldn't assume withthese kind of things.
I don't know.
Okay, I'll keep my mouth shut,all right.

(16:13):
The next one, anonymous says Iwent to high school with a guy
who is now serving life inprison for murder.
He was always in trouble atschool and I know his home life
was really shitty.
But several years aftergraduation he went on a string
of robberies and in his last onehe was caught by the homeowner

(16:34):
and stabbed her to death andfled.
This happened back beforesocial media was everywhere, so
I ended up finding out at my10-year high school reunion.
Anonymous, I feel like I'mgoing to gonna keep saying
throughout this whole episodeyou know it's crazy because,
like you said, social media nowis everywhere.

(16:55):
So I feel like I have likesomewhat of a decent grasp on
like the people I went to highschool with what they're doing,
what they're up to.
You know, like anytime you seelike a post, it's usually them
posting like that.
They just, you know, arethey're moving, what they're up
to.
You know, like anytime you seelike a post, it's usually them
posting like that.
They just, you know, arethey're moving.
They just got engaged, they'remarried, they had a baby,
they're starting a business.
You know all that.

(17:16):
I obviously you're not going tobe posting if you did something
bad and committed a crime.
But I was thinking about it whenI read that and I was like, did
I go to high school with anyonewho, like I thought, would end
up like that?
And I couldn't think of anyone,I don't know.
I like to think that my highschool was like special because,

(17:37):
you know, we didn't have likethe typical, like mean girl
clicks and whatnot.
At least in my head.
We didn't.
Don't come for me, you know,class of 2011.
If we did, I guess I was justoblivious to it.
But yeah, I would like to thinkI didn't have go to high school

(17:57):
.
I would like to think I didn'tgo to high school with anyone
capable of that.
There were some like, I guessoddballs, you could say, but
they didn't give off likesinister vibes is what I'm going
at.
So, um, yeah, that's a terriblestory, as are the rest of these
, so we'll move on the next one,again, anonymous.

(18:22):
Anonymous says when I was a kid, I lived down the street from a
mass murderer.
Anonymous says, of murderingall of these women.
It's creepy to look back on andthink that the women I saw arm

(18:48):
in arm with him ended up as hisvictims.
Anonymous, that's terrifyingtoo.
You know, I usually like to pickstories that I have something
to say with.
Like I can like, I guess,banter with myself about you
know, or at least give like afollow-up story or how this

(19:11):
could tie into you know myself,even though that sounds really
narcissistic too.
Um, but yeah, just like the way, like something I can just like
talk about, and I don't reallyhave anything to say about any
of these.
That's terrifying.
And, yeah, I have nothing tosay.

(19:34):
I wish I did, actually, no, Idon't.
I wish I don't have anything tosay about it, because this is
all terrible.
And again, I laugh when I'mnervous, and I'm making myself
nervous right now.
So, yeah, it's not funny, butthat's scary.
Yeah, that's like when it'slike looking, it's like watching

(19:54):
a movie.
You know you see somethinghappening and then you find out
the real plot of it and you'relike, oh my God, it's something
like that.
Okay, this episode's heavy ashell.
Okay, next one.
Okay, this episode's heavy ashell.
Um, okay, next one Anonymous.
She says my high schoolboyfriend is now serving time in

(20:15):
prison for vehicularmanslaughter.
He was drunk driving andslammed into a car, killing a
mother and daughter andseriously injuring the father.
Back in high school he was anice guy but he definitely did
drink at house parties,sometimes way too much, but
luckily did not have a car.
Back then, I think after highschool, he spiraled into his

(20:37):
alcohol addiction and these werethe unfortunate consequences.
His mom was a sweet,hardworking, single woman who I
know was devastated by hisactions.
But I still think about thatpoor man who lost his wife and
child in the blink of an eye.
It makes you realize life isprecious and to savor the moment
and the people you are with.

(20:58):
Anonymous, okay, this one, likeI don't know.
It made me like teary almostBecause, yeah, you think about,
I mean, I'm one of those peoplewho and anyone who's listening
to this.
Who, like, knows me personally,knows that I overthink a
situation.
If I don't hear from someoneI'm like, oh my God, something
happened to them.
But it's true, like anythingcould happen at any moment,

(21:21):
we're not promised the nextminute, the next hour, the next
day.
So, yeah, to think that thatguy, that the father and husband
, he was just, you know, goingdriving somewhere with his wife
and kid, and this happenedbecause this guy, could you know
, got behind the wheel of a carwhen he shouldn't have, that's

(21:41):
terrifying.
So, yeah, again, I feel likethis message of this episode is
don't drink and drive, becausewe've had one, two, three
stories where, yeah, three, yeah, three stories where, you know,
getting behind the wheel of acar when you're inebriated is um

(22:01):
scary.
And this specific story endedin death of two people who, you
know, were just probably tryingto go home that day.
So, don't drink and drive,don't?
You know?
That's what Ubers are there forand hopefully your Uber driver
is OK, but, yes, also, savor themoment and the people you are

(22:22):
with, ok.
Next, anonymous.
Actually, this was the one whosigned her name, but I left you
anonymous.
I hope you're not mad, but I'lladdress you.
At the end.
She says my friend turned me onto this podcast and when you
asked for true crime gossip, Iknew I had to write in.
This insane girl I worked withat a club ended up killing her

(22:45):
boyfriend in a coke-fueled rage.
We worked together as cocktailwaitresses and bottle girls at
this prominent club and I don'tthink I had ever seen her sober.
She was nice but definitely onthe wild side.
But she missed her shift onenight.
And then we find out it'sbecause she was arrested for

(23:05):
beating her boyfriend with abottle and then using the broken
edge to stab him multiple times.
It was all over the news and Istayed up to date on her trial
out of pure morbid curiosity.
I have some gremlin stories towrite in next, so hopefully
you'll read this and my upcomingsubmissions Anonymous.

(23:25):
Okay, I kept you anonymous, butyes, please send me in your
gremlin stories.
I will say your name then.
Um, like I said, I just feltlike I should keep everyone
anonymous, given, like thegravity of the situation.
But this was this is probablythe only one I have something to
say with like I have like a, astory with.

(23:48):
I guess, like so to say um,okay, I've been a cocktail
waitress, I have like a storywith, I guess, like so to say,
okay, I've been a cocktailwaitress, I've been a bottle
girl, so I know what that's likeand of course drugs are going
through the place.
You know that's how the girlsstay, hit like all peppy and
whatnot.
But you know that's besides thepoint.
Not to out myself.
I have done the nose candy andit never made me want to, um,

(24:14):
stab anyone or murder anyone.
It made me want to, you know,just like shake my ass a little
bit.
Not that I'm promoting peopledoing that, I don't need people
coming for me for that but, um,yeah, that's that's what made me
, that's what made me thinkmaybe this wasn't just cocaine.
Not that I'm saying cocaine isgood, I'm just saying I don't

(24:36):
think it was just that like I'mprobably thinking that it was
laced with something else.
Um, I did know someone I wasn'tobviously present for this, but
I did know someone who was doingthat.
I'm trying to like find mywords here, but I guess it
doesn't matter.
I did know someone who was highoff of coke and but it was

(25:00):
laced with like PCP and thisperson ended up flipping out at
another person's home.
Was like smashing.
Like at another person's homewas like smashing like bottles
and glasses and tables and likescreaming, and ran outside like
he was in a tizzy.
Anyway, the police came.
He's now in jail.

(25:21):
Um, actually, I don't knowwhere he is now, but he was
taken to jail at that time.
So that's why it made that'swhat makes me think this has
it's like more than just likethat was laced with something
else.
But yeah, and then you said thatit was all over the news.
So I stayed up to date on hertrial out of pure morbid
curiosity.
So I do know someone who wasarrested.

(25:42):
It made the news.
It was like on TMZ and this andthat.
And I understand the morbidcuriosity.
Like I stayed up to date on whatwas happening on that case, on
that trial, and I was likeGoogling the person's name and
the other people who wereinvolved in the case because I

(26:02):
wanted to see like thedevelopments and what was
happening and was it going totrial?
Was it being pled out?
Like I was just like it was,just like you said, a morb pled
out.
Like I was just like it was,just like you said, a morbid
curiosity.
I was just curious and we'vealready established I'm the
nosiest person to have everlived.
So of course, I was googlingand whatnot, um.
So I understand that it is amorbid curiosity.

(26:24):
I had no connection to it.
I had no stake the game.
I was just wanting to know whatwas happening.
So I understand it and also sendin your Gremlin stories.
I will absolutely happily readthem and discuss them and say
your name on future episodes.
Hopefully you're not mad at mebecause I didn't say your name

(26:45):
on this one, but thank you foryour submission.
I very much appreciate it andsend in those stories.
Okay, and the last one is Isaved it for last.
Like I said before, I don'treally have a formula for how I
deliver the gossips or thestories or anything like that,
but I saved this one for lastbecause this one bothered me.

(27:07):
It left me feeling like I'mtrying to think of the right
word, not sick, but just like,like I had to like kind of catch
my breath after I read it, likeI felt what you were feeling at
that time.
So, with that, this is our verylast gossip and it's it's yeah.

(27:33):
I guess I'll just read it rightnow.
She says so I have a coworker Ihave worked with since 2021.
I have no basis for this or anyevidence, but I'm 100% convinced
he is a killer or has killed atleast one person in his
lifetime.

(27:54):
I have just never gotten a goodfeeling from him, and the
longer I know him, the more Iconvince myself.
When I started at the company,I was just an intern, so I would
interact with him every now andthen, but now, in my current
position, we work in the samedepartment.
He always gave off bad energy,but now that I have to spend

(28:16):
time with him, I see how dark hereally is.
And it's not just a creepy vibe, it's a pit in my stomach,
gut-wrenching feeling that he isbad, is bad.
He is good at his job, but hedoes not have any friends in the
office.
When he does interact, it isstrange, almost inhuman-like.
He stares at you as if he isstudying you and speaks in a

(28:40):
very perfectionist, thought-out,very slow way.
I shared the elevator with himonce and he stood next to me and
slowly turned his head andlooked me up and down, as if
taking me in.
I said hello and he simply saidhello, completely
expressionless.
Now I refuse to take theelevator with him, always making

(29:03):
an excuse to take the next one.
Others think he's strange too,but you can't be fired for being
weird.
But mark my words, we will endup seeing him in the news,
signed Afraid.
Yeah, it was just the way shewrote it and the description she

(29:24):
gave it's reading serial killer, I don't know.
That's how you picture, likethe Jeffrey Dahmers and the Ted
Bundy.
Actually I heard or not heard.
I'm acting like people havetold me specific, like
personally.
Um, I've read that Ted Bundywas very like personable, but
it's like how you would imaginesomeone to be.

(29:44):
I I'm at a loss of words, whichis not good if I'm trying to
run a goddamn podcast.
But yeah, it's what you wouldpicture.
It's the way they would.
If you were writing a movie andyou want it to be very clear,
cut who the bad guy is, that'show you would write him.
Just the office scary man whoyou know does something terrible

(30:11):
.
This one bothered me.
I felt your fear.
I felt like it resonated withme.
That's why I saved it for last,because I was like this one was
the one that made me scared.
You know, like you said, maybewe'll see him.
I mean, I hope we don't see himin the news.
I really hope he's just somereally weird guy who is maybe

(30:34):
just very antisocial and not anabsolute sociopath who, like,
tortures people.
Yeah, signed, afraid, dittobaby, I wouldn't want to work
with this person.
He scares me.
I don't work with him.
I don't know him.
I'm dying to know what he lookslike.

(30:54):
Obviously, do not take a pictureof him to send to me.
It's really not that important.
But yeah, I in my head I feellike I can picture him like he's
very tall and slender and likehas like a horseshoe hair
because he's balding on top andhe wears like those very thin
wire frame glasses and he haslike little beady eyes.

(31:15):
That's the way I'm picturinghim.
Yeah, and he brings a lunchevery day and it's the same
thing every single day, like hedoesn't vary from what he's
eating because he has a verystrict schedule and he has to do
this and this and this.
Actually it sounds like mebecause I have OCD, but but I
promise you I'm not a murderer,but yeah, so afraid, signed,

(31:36):
afraid.
I hope that this person is not ascary person and you have no
terrible interactions with himand you don't see him on the
news and you find out he's justa weirdo.
You know some people are justweird.
That's okay, all right, I'mgonna have a drink of this

(31:57):
because I kind of worked myselfup.
Oh, that's cool, I spilled alittle bit.
Well, whatever, all right.
So that's the end of ourepisode.
Normally I end these episodeson a really jovial note.
This one, I feel like it's hardto do because we just talked
about something so heavy andscary, to be quite honest.
But that's OK.

(32:18):
Hopefully you guys reallyenjoyed this episode.
I enjoyed it.
I enjoyed reading all of thestories and the gossips that
came in.
Like I said, these aren't theonly ones that came in.
There are more, but I didn'twant to run through all of them
and then have nothing.
So I can like make this like alittle series.
So if you have any more, itdoesn't here.

(32:39):
How about?
This doesn't have to be crime.
It's just great.
If you have gremlin stories, ifyou need gremlin guidance, if
you have gremlin gossip, it caninvolve crime.
It can involve just reallynormal things.
It can involve your stories,can just be about crazy
debauchery, the way we've alwaysdone it for the past 22
episodes, or 21, technically.
Yeah, send all your stories,all your gossip and any guidance

(33:04):
that you need.
Send those in.
You can email the podcastemilytogremlypod at gmailcom.
You can also watch thisemilytogramilypod at gmailcom.
You can also watch this podcastminus three episodes, but you
can watch this episode and allpast episodes on YouTube
emilytogramilypod on YouTube.
And make sure to follow us onsocial media myself and the

(33:29):
podcast emilytogramilypod onInstagram and TikTok.
And yes, so hopefully I didn'tbum you guys out.
Hopefully you guys enjoyed this.
I love true crime.
Hopefully I get better abouttalking about it.
I love watching it.
I guess I didn't know how todeliver this properly.
I feel it feels like almostlike I'm doing my very first
episode.
It feels a little bit clunky.
Hopefully I'm not absolutelyruining this and myself and the

(33:52):
podcast with it, but I don'tthink I am.
I really enjoyed readingeverything you guys sent in and
I'm very excited to do moresubmissions.
I do have some episodes linedup involved because we're
heading into October sooninvolving Halloween aspects, so
I will be excited about that.

(34:13):
Maybe I'll save those crimegossips for one of my Halloween
episodes.
I mean Halloween's like mysecond favorite holiday,
actually.
Second, I don't know.
I love Christmas, I love mybirthday because I'm a Leo and I
love Halloween.
I guess in no particular order.
But yeah, so I love Halloween.
We're gonna make Halloween abig deal here on the podcast.

(34:36):
And yes, send in all yourgremlin stories, your gremlin
gossips crime or not, crimedoesn't matter.
Just send it all to me.
I'll filter through it and ifyou have any g guidance, make
sure to send those in as well.
I have some upcoming gueststhat I'm very excited to share
the guidance with and get theirtake and their perspective on it

(34:57):
, so it should be exciting Again.
Gremlin stories, gremlinguidance, gremlin gossip Email
me emilytogremlypod at gmailcom.
And yeah, that's the episode.
Hopefully I didn't bum you guysout.
Cheers.
This is like the first episodeI've drank this much of a drink.
I'm going to chug it, finish itand go about my day.

(35:20):
Love you guys, cheersies, bye.
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