We Spent 394 Days on TikTok and All We Got Was Traumatized by Joan Steffend

Champagne flows as Emily welcomes her longtime friend Jay for a delightfully chaotic conversation that weaves through their shared history, recent accomplishments, and mutual digital obsessions. Having known each other since 2016, these friends have seen each other through what they lovingly refer to as their "degenerative years" and emerged stronger for it.

Jay shares her recent academic triumph - earning a master's degree in digital media management from USC, breaking down her expertise in the digital world and content creation. The conversation quickly shifts to their mutual TikTok dependency, with both confessing to a 394-day streak of sharing content with each other daily.

Their digital addiction has led them to a shared obsession: the 90s home decoration show "Decorating Cents," which has traumatized them both with its questionable design choices. With passionate animation, they break down how hosts Joan Steffend and her partner committed design atrocities like gluing hay to walls, hanging used nightgowns as decor, and creating hazardous furniture - all while charging homeowners for the privilege.

The friends dive into Netflix's "America's Sweethearts: Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders” expressing admiration for the cheerleaders who advocated for fair pay despite risking their coveted positions. They celebrate the 400% raise these women secured for future team members, even though many who fought for the change won't benefit personally.

In the final segment, Jay shares her teenage "gremlin story" from a trip to Italy, where at 14 she pretended to be 18, drank margaritas with her friend at a discotheque called "Gardenia," and terrified her parents who thought she'd been kidnapped. This youthful misadventure perfectly encapsulates the podcast's core theme - embracing your imperfections while recognizing their consequences.

Make sure to follow the podcast on Instagram and TikTok @emilytogremilypod. Need advice? Want to share your own gremlin story? Email us at [e-mail]

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:12):
all right, cheers.
We have jay with us today, andthis is technically, uh, take
two.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yes, because she was supposed to be I was the first
guest, you were the first guest.
That episode just never saw thelight of day.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
It was it's a lost episode because um I, we, I we
me was a mess, um we whoa, whoa,whoa well yeah, I don't know.
We were both like reallynervous to record and I'm glad
that episode didn't air.
We didn't know what to do, sowhat we did was we drank.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
And it was a gremlin moment.
I gremlin out doing a gremlinepisode.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah, we tried to talk about being gremlins, and
then she became one.
Yeah, I was going to say we,but it was me and, obviously,
like I've had my gremlin momentsthat just didn't happen to be.
I was a gremlin later in thenight because I ended up staying
out here and then I left, but Iwaited until she was safe and

(01:17):
secure and had supervisionbefore I left.
I didn't leave her unattended.
I did not leave her alone.
I couldn't leave a gremlinalone like that.
No, yeah.
So I'm glad that episode didn'tair.
One I had a huge like giantplanet on my forehead and I
couldn't stop staring at that.
So glad that didn't air and wewere super nervous and it was

(01:39):
just like awkward.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
We didn't know what to do.
We ended up drinking, like Idon't know, like three bottles
of champagne.
I feel like you.
Well, whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
I drink.
I definitely helped you finishthat bottle for sure.
I had a good buzz going, butyeah, no, it was definitely a
gremlin day.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah, so, yeah, it was a gremlin day for me and
yeah, so now you're back, I forme, and yeah, so now you're back
I'm back doing episode 13 luckynumber 13.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Tay voodoo is real.
Yep, the swifties is.
That's perfect there you go soit was meant to be that I was
episode 13, yes, and that thatdidn't see the episode.
Oh, my god, I can't talk.
That episode didn't see thelight of day.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
I'm glad, though, because, yeah, we, you got your
footing now yeah, I, I got allthe nerves out and then I
actually started the podcast andeven then, like the first, I
don't know, I feel like a coupleepisodes are like really wonky
and weird.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
No, you definitely got like so much more into it,
and it's like so much easier andlike casual and it's not like
what are we doing?
Yeah, and yeah, I was superawkward too, because I was like
I don't't know what I'm doing.
Yeah, we didn't know what wasgoing on, and I also like went
on my friend's podcast, so I gotlike my podcast nerves out.
My first time on a podcastnerves out, but this will come
out before that one, so oh yeah.

(02:55):
The hell.
That was like a couple monthsago.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
I know.
Yeah projects, yeah otherprojects.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
We're in school.
We had graduation.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
We had all that that's what I was gonna say,
like it's a good thing you're onnow, because now we can talk
about all of youraccomplishments yes, quite the
accomplishments you justgraduated did I even introduce
myself properly no, I barely did.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
I said this is jay, this is jay.
That's pretty much all you needto know.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
That's really all you need to know, it's J Rose.
We've known each other since along time 2016, 2017, I think
Something yeah.
No longer than that.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
I think it was 2016.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
That sounds about right yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Because I graduated undergrad in 2016.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
And yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Then we went into the rebellious phase.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
I was like um, what's that word?
Backpacking through europe?
I was backpacking through lifefor a couple years, finding
myself on the eat, pray, lovejourney.
Not much eating was happening.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah, we we had our um, our degenerative years
together.
Yeah, our 20s.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
It was just our 20s.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
I mean, everyone does it.
Yeah, you're 20.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Maybe not the way we do it.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
No, I mean, we did it right, we had to do it.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
If you're going to do it.
That way.
You have no regrets.
When you get to your old age,you're like I did it Like I
lived.
That's how I feel Now age.
You're like I did it, like Ilived.
That's how I feel like now.
I'm like I see like the kidsout partying and I'm like, yeah,
that looks cool, but I did thatand I did it better, and it was
more fun and yeah, so I'mretired party queen yes but I

(04:34):
hung up my party shoes.
They actually broke on a musicfestival but, that's a story for
another time.
But yeah, so we've been friendsfor quite some time long time
we've seen each other throughthe crazy.
Yeah, that's what I was gonnasay back to your like you had
your gremlin moment, but it'slike it's all good.
You've seen me at my gremlin.
Yes, gremlin like moments andyou've still stuck around so

(04:57):
you're a real one and so how canI like be like, oh, bye, bye,
you got a little too tipsy onenight.
Um ow, yeah, right, okay, thatwould be insane considering like
, yeah, hypocritical to say theleast.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Oh, my god, you drink too much, bye yeah, terrible
person, what a horrible personyou are.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
I'm writing you off because you drink three drinks.
Oh my god okay, yeah, okay, butnow you have all of your
accomplishments you justgraduated yeah, back after I
finished, after I retired frompartying, I got serious and I
got my master's degree from uscor I'm almost getting it.
I it's kind of backwards.

(05:38):
I walked and did graduation.
Yeah, we did commencement inmay and then I have one class
left.
I just got my grades for mylast, second to last class, got
a 98 and this was like thehardest professor I had and he
was that, that one that you saidwas like an asshole yeah, like
he wasn't like picky he yeah, hewas like really strict grader.
He came from stanford, very highexpectations and like wanted to

(06:01):
challenge us and very freedomriders vibe, you don't know,
you've seen that movie.
You know like wanted tochallenge us and very freedom
writers vibes, you don't know,you've seen that movie you know
like pushes to our fullestpotential.
But you know what?
He did his job and I did workharder in that class and so I
was like you know what?
Like I was, like I'm gonna showhim and I just worked harder
and like did the work and I gota good grade, I'm like I'll show
him, I'll.
I'll do the reading, I'll dothe reading.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
I'll'll ace the class .

Speaker 2 (06:21):
I'll do the reading.
I'll really stick it to him.
Yeah.
So his plan worked and you knowwe learned stuff and it's
college, so it's a master'sprogram.
So, yeah, they do have higherexpectations, but it's
understandable.
And then now I have my Capstoneproject class, which is our
last class, and then I'll bedone in August.
I'm also taking Illustrator oradobe illustrator certification

(06:44):
and what was your degree in?
it's in digital media management, so it's a lot.
I wrote it down.
I wrote a short version of itjust so I can, just so I can get
it all out there.
So, basically, in a nutshell,it's how to lead, create and
grow content-driven brands inthe digital world.
So it's a mix of strategy,creativity and technology, and

(07:08):
so I study how like platformslike tiktok, instagram, youtube
and streaming services work tobuild their audiences, how to
manage their content teamsanalyze data and use a bunch of
trends to grow your brand orbusiness online.
So it's basically the brainsbehind the scenes of like
marketing and digital stuff andall that in the digital world.

(07:29):
And then, yeah, that's prettymuch in a nutshell how I explain
it.
I try to explain it to myparents and they're like I don't
know.
I'm like we don't get whatyou're talking about.
It's just stuff on a screen,anything on a little screen,
anything digital.
There you go.
Yeah, so I shouldn't know howto go viral, but it's my major.
Yeah, but we're working on it.
We're gonna go viral.
This episode's gonna seemillions.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
You're gonna get so many brand deals they're gonna
roll in yeah, I'm gonna have notime for no one, because I'm
just gonna be amazing you'rejust gonna be so busy, I'm gonna
be so busy, but I will say it'shard to picture, but hard to
picture us being busy, but godforbid, we're busy peoples.
Um, I will say she is the like.

(08:12):
She did all of my art.
She did the cover, the graphics.
She did my cover art, the logo,all that stuff.
She came and she did a wholephoto shoot.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, this is technically take three of this.
Yeah, iteration, she's beenhere for a while actually.
Yeah, this is the iterate, butthat's cool because that's what
I was saying.
You gotta like things come initerations.
You gotta start and then justlike fix it as you go and like
things change.
Things happen, people come,people go yeah, a lot of people
go.
We're moving along, yeah butyou're making it happen and

(08:47):
that's was awesome, because Iwas just like yeah you're doing
the thing, yeah, and we justgotta keep going.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Exactly consistency, like they say, just be
consistent I'm trying to beconsistent, but nobody is
looking at my consistency.
I've been on instagram for 10years.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
How much more consistent can I be?
I was here when it was.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
I was here when it was invented.
Yes, I remember my very firstpost.
It looks stupid.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
I was on it before.
There was an algorithm, andthat's what's like crazy.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
We were just only following friends.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah.
Your five friends and youposted in real time with the
filters that came with Instagram.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
I was like heavy on sepia, or oh, sepia mine was
like um, what was that one?
It was a weird name yeah, theyall were like really bad and it
was like xx pro or somethinglike that like it's all like you
really?

Speaker 2 (09:37):
veranda contrasted and like fucking off insane,
yeah, but good times and then,yeah, of course, myspace days,
but I wasn't ever allowed tohave a myspace I wasn't either,
but that's you know I had tohave one right and it was cool
because we were like codingstuff, like yeah, see I.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
I feel like I missed the boat with that.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
You didn't have a myspace, nope there was nothing
better than coming home like ifyou had a fight with your friend
and you removed her from yourtop five.
Oh wait, five or eight oh, Ihad a top eight, oh, and then
yeah I would see I would putoprah's like in front of whoever
like I was.
I was mad at like.
I put oprah on my top eightjust to, really just to stick.
Yeah, I don't know why I choseoprah, I was just like you know

(10:18):
what, like fuck you bitch, she'smad oh, she's mad, oprah's
number one.
Yeah, I don't know, don't ask, Ijust love.
Oprah, but anyways, we're offtopic.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
But shocker, yeah here, cheers again, cheers again
.
Oh wait, I didn't even talkabout this we're having because
she drinks champagne.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
So we're doing champagne.
But I made a raspberry simplesyrup.
It's good To go inside of it.
It kind of came out jammy, butI mean it tastes good, it's good
.
There we go, she's.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Nara Smith over here.
I know it's a really prettycolor too.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
I know it's such a pretty pink.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Love it.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
You and I have been having this TikTok streak.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Oh yeah.
Going on because TikTok is ourlife, because we have no life.
What day are we on?
Oh sorry, I was trying to do aTikTok trend Can't do it?

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Yeah, we don't understand it.
Learn how to try it.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
We're on day 394 of our TikTok stream.
Watch out guys.
Yeah, so that's over a year.
For 394 days we've been doingnothing.
We have at least sent one OneBe real 10.
At least 10.
And lately, yeah, it's beenpretty much those two ladies.
I don't know if we want to getinto it now.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah, I'll kick us off with this.
So TikTok used to be my safespace.
I really would enjoy going onthere for like a little
serotonin boost.
Now, when I click on TikTok,the first video that pops up for
me is usually Aaron Parnasletting us know we're like on
the brink of death, Doomsday,yeah, it's like World War III is

(11:57):
about to happen.
So then I scroll away from thatbecause you know I'll like it
and share it with her, becauseyou know we share news and you
know, share the misery.
So then I scroll away from that, hoping to get like a new video
pop up.
And then I am being visuallyassaulted by these two ladies
from the fucking 90s, Joan whoare violating these people's

(12:20):
homes and rooms for under $500,by the way, it's always under
$500.
I am horrified, but I can't getoff of it.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
No.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
So I'm like oh my God , I liked one video, one video,
and I shared one video and nowit's the only thing I see and
I've looked at the comments andpeople are like this is why it's
a millennial grade.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Because we're traumatized.
Minimalism by these primarycolors that these women are
shoving down their throats.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
And they're they, it's terrible should have been
arrested.
I believe it was apsychological torture experiment
and it was a joke that theyturned into a show to see how
much bullshit it was a show.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
I looked it up.
It was on for 31 seasons.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
They let them get away with murder.
They wreaked these women werepaid to wreak havoc on people's
homes.
They destroyed these people'shomes and they were like, oh,
that looks great.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
No, it doesn't and then they would trial each other
and like hold each other yeahand be like that's great, yeah,
no that's amazing joan stafford.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
I oh my god she was in.
Like oh my god, I'm insane.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Like I want to know where she is right now I want to
know what her home looks likeright now oh, because she's
probably decoupage to the god ohmy god, I will include on
instagram stories videos of whatthese women did.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
They painted like rug , like with paint on the wood
floor.
Painted a rug on the wood floorlike a rug insane work, like it
was criminal.
It's like I don't know how theygot away with it.
I don't know Like they would.
Oh yeah, the worst one I saw.
So they wanted like an earthy,like I don't know home.
Like what was it?
Horse type of vibe.
They glued hay to their wall.

(14:05):
They glued hay all over thesepeople's walls and they made
like a crown molding type of,like a thick layer, like a thick
band at the top of hay, andthis lady's like I'm gonna be
picking this off my walls foryears.
Like what were these peoplethinking?
Oh, my god, I can't.
And they're like it'sinfiltrated my whole for you
page.

(14:25):
I get enraged with these ladiesthey're terrible no, they're
awful and they're like.
It looks great, joan.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
No, it doesn't like I'm like, like they, they had to
have been on something.
What was a drug in the 90s?
What was happening back then?

Speaker 2 (14:37):
quaaludes I feel like that was way before they were
on quaaludes they had the lastbatch decorating scent and
they're like no, I honestlythink they were like let's see
how far we can take this shitwithout people noticing.
And they made it 31 seasons ofwreaking havoc, destroying
people's homes, and no onenoticed.

(14:58):
And I think they just thoughtlet's see how much bullshit we
can put on these people's houses.
It was terrible, it was awful.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
The show was called Decorating Scents C-E-N-T-S and,
like everything was under $500.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
It looked like it was under a dollar.
It looked like they got it outof the dumpster.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
There was one lady who said that her decorating
style was modern garage sale.
What does that mean, moderngarage sale?
What is happening?

Speaker 2 (15:24):
It looked awful and they always throw in and the
piece de resistance, or theykeep calling they, they.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
I can't even talk because I'm so upset I get so
mad.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
I get heated, I'm getting worked up.
No, they're insane.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
They would bring in these pieces of like nice, like
reclaimed wood, like a, like a Ican't talk Like a cabinet and
then they would.
They're like going to decoupagethis with indian sacred prayers
, the indian sacred prayers, andthen they're like actually we

(15:56):
found it.
It looked too busy, so then wesanded it off and then they're
like but then we were going torepaint it, look and.
But we decided not to becauseit gave it a nice, a nice
primitive look and it's likehold on, lady, you just got lazy
, you didn't want to repaint it.
And let's be quite clear.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
And let's be real, it looks awful, it looks horrible,
I don't know how they got awaywith it.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
They ended up leaving these people either with a
kindergarten classroom or a traphouse.
There was nothing in between.
It was either one or the otherand these poor people were
subjected to torture.
That, by the way way.
I found a girl oh yeah, who shewas on tiktok and she's like I
was one of the people.

(16:37):
I was one of the little girlswhose home, whose like bedroom,
they redid.
She was really upset by it.
But then to come to find out,the ladies of the show, the
torturers they don't pay for it.
The show doesn't pay for it.
The people whose homes theydestroyed they were the ones who
paid the 500 for it to beruined I did not know that I

(16:59):
sent you a tiktok this morning.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Oh, I definitely was not looking at it in my journey
here.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
But no, they.
Yeah, she was like.
Yeah, like my mom is the onewho her they paid for them to
destroy their houses redecoratedquote-unquote for like 498
dollars and she said she wanteda pink room.
They painted her walls greenand then paper mache fucking

(17:24):
maps of france even though shenever mentioned france, she said
she wanted a pink room that shecould dance in where they got
green and France from.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
I have no idea green ever it was pea green and they
freehand everything.
And they're like let's freehandsome stripes.
How about we don't?
How about let's get somepainters tape and paint in a
straight line so it looks good?
But no, they decide to paintwith the goddamn dish towel no,
it's not a dish towel.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Hold on, wait, it's a cheesecloth.
Standby a cheesecloth.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
I'm sorry, mind you.
And then they're like let's puton some wiring on this dresser.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
It looks like a chicken coop in their living
room or there was one where theyput tool around the chandelier
and the other lady was like, isthis a danger?
And she's like, well, you'regonna want to use the least
flammable material.
What, you're gonna putflammable material around my
candles, it's gonna light onfire.
She's like, well, you're goingto want to use the least
flammable material.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
What You're going to put flammable material around my
candles.
It's going to light on fire.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
She's going to burn these people's homes down.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yeah, it's going down I think it was the same girl
with the Paris on her wall.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
They took nightgowns and strung them from the ceiling
.
They had like three nightgowns.
It was like one.
It looked so bad.
There was also another one andshe was like what are these?
And she's like they're justnightgowns.
And how lovely, oh wow, what abeautiful.
No, they're.
Take your laundry from theceiling and fold it and put it
like they're from an antiquestore and like who wants someone

(18:44):
else's worn nightgown?

Speaker 1 (18:45):
hanging from their ceiling.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
It was insane, insane work, oh my god decorating
sense.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Yeah, so I hate those .
Sorry, I got real heatedtalking about.
There was another one wherethey put literally dirty
overalls and kids clothing likeas decorations.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Oh, I'll send it to you and I'll post it.
I saw the cutout, the foamcutout um laundry room where
they made like those fake.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
It's really bad guys.
I'm gonna put it all oninstagram stories so you guys
can understand why we're soupset about this it's enraging
if it hasn't infiltrated yourfor you page yet, you're
considering yourself lucky youbut, um, I'm gonna make sure it
comes on your for you page,because you're gonna need to
look this up and understand whywe're so terrified and horrified
for these people and that's whyI mean I'm not wearing all
black, but usually I wear allblack, and that's why

(19:35):
millennials are in theirmillennial gray I mean, look at
like you've been in my housebefore.
Everything's dark and ineveryone else's defense.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
That house looks like it was designed for steve from
blue's clues like all thosehouses they paint crazy stuff on
there, they paint walls likemustard yellow, and then they
paint the walls ketchup red.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Oh, and then they're like why?
Why are we doing?

Speaker 2 (19:57):
it.
Let's add a backsplash andwe'll take a random tile and
just glue it to the wall withnothing around it.
Or my favorite was the um.
Extremely unsafe.
They took like all these platesand broke them up and then
glued them on a table andthey're like oh perfect, like
stuff won't get caught in there.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Yeah, cool, sharp edges, perfect and they just
slice your leg open and youcan't put anything down on it.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
It'll crack the glass like it was insane.
Insane work by those ladies.
I want to see where they arenow.
I want to hear from the victimsor the people's houses, the
victims houses.
They deserve compensation.
It's like, oh my gosh, we'regonna see one of those class
action lawsuits soon, if youthat's what yeah it's giving
class action lawsuit, and itshould be.
They should all get together,because I would.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
If that, I would have can you imagine if someone put
hay on your wall?

Speaker 2 (20:43):
no, I would have, I would have been in jail because,
um, it's like I'm not, maybenot in jail, okay, but I would
have lost it on nationaltelevision like screaming at
them what the hell are you doing?

Speaker 1 (20:55):
they probably just wouldn't have aired your episode
yeah, no, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
I would have beat Joan up, because what?

Speaker 1 (21:00):
are you doing?
You paid for it.
What are you doing?
Gluing hay to?

Speaker 2 (21:04):
my wall that I paid for.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
You paid for hay why did I pay for this?

Speaker 2 (21:09):
I would have been so upset.
I'm upset on their behalf.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
I'm still, I'm mad we get, like it's come to the
point where we send each otherare like the tiktoks of these
videos and I'll send them to herand she'll send it back to me
with a message, and it's filledwith such hateful language that
it's now being censored andthey're sending me messages.
Tiktok's sending me messageslike if you need, to block this

(21:33):
center, censoring me.
Because they enrage her.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
I get so heated I can't believe it.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
She's like I fucking hate these fucking women.
These stupid assholes andthey're like I'm like oh, great
yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
Let's throw that shit on there.
That looks like shit.
Good job, ladies.
That looks fucking awful.
It's really bad.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Oh, and the piece de resistance joan, that looks like
shit, um so yeah, anyways,ladies, I can go.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
I could write a dissertation on my hate for joan
and her and nancy awful.
Yeah, is that her name?

Speaker 1 (22:05):
I don't know oh, and there's another, the cherry on
top and then I'll.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
We can wrap this up Is they both were matching
fucking overalls every episodeand a matching shirt and they're
like oh, I got this from alocal artist.
No, you didn't.
Ok those.
I saw a comment.
The local artists that they'retalking about must be the local
artists they make up in theirhead.
There's no local artists.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Anyway, they went to a garage sales.
Let's be quick.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
They went to garage sales.
Let's be quick, clear.
They went to the dumpster andthey got that shit and then
they're just pocketing the 500dollars from these people and I
swear, okay, you can dumpsterdive and find better stuff than
what they were putting in thesepeople's and they were they're
using like staplers and glueguns, like not even real, like
material.
It's just like it's gonna holdtogether for 30 seconds.
As soon as the people get home,everything falls off the walls.
Anyways, I'm enraged.
I could go on forever.
I'm gonna drink this wholedrink just talking about joan,

(22:57):
oh, my god and my shoelace she'shaving a meti bee over joan oh,
my god and joan, if I see youin the streets, you're probably.
No, I know you're not a nicelady.
I was gonna say you're probablya very lovely lady, but no,
she's a karen.
Someone who does that tosomeone is a psychological like

(23:17):
yeah, no like you're.
You're insane.
That's torture.
That's that's torture.
And you're just smiling inthese people's faces, doesn't it
look great?
No, it doesn't.
Okay, they have no qual.
I want to know their likequalifications, like where do
they find joan, why?
Why are you qualified to beputting hay on people's walls?

(23:38):
Yeah, and they're like you knowwhat.
It's time to bring thesepatients out for some arts and
crafts, and they're just.
You know what wreaks havoc onthese people's houses.
Have at it, joan.
I want to know what deal shegot.
Like what, what that contractlooked like.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Oh my god, yeah, anyway yeah, let's have a drink
for and not for joan in spite ofjoan.
We're drinking because of joan.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah, I'm not drinking for joan in spite of
joan.
What an evil lady.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Evil lady, but yeah oh man, how is she famous and
we're not that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Like, what were her credentials to get her that gig?
And the other lady, hersidekick, her fellow torture,
yeah, her partner in torture,her partner in torture.
But yeah, yeah, our tiktokstreak is going strong yeah and
oh, sorry, that's good andstrong with hate, yeah that.
And then we kind of stoppeddoing our fun facts of the day.

(24:34):
I was thinking about that theother day.
We used to do fun fact orfucked fact yeah sometimes they
were like fucked up yeah, it wasreally sad yeah, or interesting
, but like fucked up.
And then also our queenie andweenie of the week well, I stole
from.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
We were copying the toast podcast on sundays.
We would text each other whatthe Queenie and the Weenie was.
I was usually my own Queenieand Weenie though.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah, mainly me too, so I think that's why we stopped
doing it.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
We're just talking about ourselves.
We've already updated eachother every day we had two
Weenies one week.
Yes, yeah, we'll let peoplethink what they want to think.
We'll let people think whatthey want to think.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
We'll let the listeners decide who they think
the weenie and queenie would,yeah, exactly, drop it in the
comments the other thing that'sbeen infiltrating I know both of
our TikToks is that fuckingTikTok sound of all these people
having what should be a great,glorious vacation, and it's.
Nothing beats a jet to holidayand right now you can save 50

(25:36):
pounds per person, that's 200pounds off for a family of four
I used it as a sound on one ofmy videos.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
I think we need to get off the internet yeah, no,
I'm definitely like you're.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
We're chronically online and that's that's why we
have a 300 understand what wejust said look it up yeah, and
jet two is a real, like it's areal commercial, and then it's a
real commercial, it's a reallike airline and yeah, the song
is also like a real song.
Yeah it.
It's like the song is likedarling, hold my hand, there you

(26:12):
go, yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Cut that, please.
No, I'm kidding.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Cut that please, not my singing yeah.
So anyways, I made a.
Oh wait, I think I can play theTikTok sound, so can I play it
in the yeah, put it in themicrophone.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
I'll put it in the microphone.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Nothing beats a chick to you all the day, and right
now you can save £50 per person.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
That's £200 for a family of four anyway, and it's
usually people like absolutelyeating shit falling in a pool.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
I posted me falling off a paddle board in the
harbour, wasn't it at likesunset, yeah, sunset, yeah,
sunset, yeah, sunset.
Someone's just going down it'swell.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
It's a really beautiful backdrop yeah, it was,
and um it was on balboa yeah,and then she just eats shit and,
uh, we see her disappear underthe water.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Yeah, yeah that was a good times good times, good
times.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Yeah, I don't talk to any of those people, the girl
recording the video, the otherguy in the video.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Don't talk to them.
But yeah, it was.
I had to post it and I neededlike a funny falling one so I
could post it with the jet toholiday audio.
But now I just walk around.
Nothing beats a jet to holiday,it's becoming a vocal stim yeah
, no same I'm having an issue no, I have quite a few yeah, like
there was with that.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
I'm exposing myself, that taylor swift song where
she's like florida I kept sayingmind you, I'm by my, by myself
at home walking around talkingto my cats, which you know.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
That's a great look and I'm just like taylor would
be proud, taylor would be proudand yeah, and I get a lot of um
vocal stems from trixie andkatya all the time oh, they're
so funny, they're hilarious.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
They crack me up.
Yeah, what was the one that yousent me the other day?

Speaker 2 (28:04):
and oh, trixie was like I was so hungover I woke up
yelling and then she was like I.
He was like I was so mad atmyself, like, oh yo, let's go
for another drink, idiot, let me, just let me.
Oh yeah, let's have anothershot.
Good job, asshole.
But yeah, that's so like whenyou're hung over, you're hung
over.
You're like, oh yeah, good job,I do that, the same thing, yeah

(28:25):
I do.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
I'll be dumb bitch.
I usually do the thing where Ijust like haunt my house what,
what?
You haunt your house when, ifI'm so hungover, I just walk
from room to room, just likestaring into the abyss.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Staring at the blank page before you yes.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Open up the dirty window.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
I'm quoting Natasha Bunningfield why does it look?

Speaker 1 (28:56):
like I'm an alcoholic , I'll refill your cup.
All right, we're back frombreak.
We had to take a break torefill her glass and um compose
ourselves after um, joan, allright, so all right, we already
um actually like just trashedthe ever-loving shit out of Joan
.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
No, we didn't trash it.
I'm sure that her ears areringing right now.
I hope they are.
You're still so mad?
I'm not.
Yeah, I am not.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
One minute, just think about Jet 2 Holiday.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Nothing beats a Jet 2 Holiday All right, all right.
Nothing beats a jet to holiday.
All right, all right.
We gotta move on.
Yeah, um, but nothing does.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
I'm gonna take a jet to holiday and see if anything
does I feel like it may, mightbe like a spirit airline, though
don't you, don't you feel likeit might be like the european
version of spirit.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
No, because have you ever flown spirit?

Speaker 1 (29:49):
no, I have I did with my, with my high school
boyfriend, we were going totwirl.
They've been around that long.
Yeah, no offense, hold on, holdon.
That was the rudest thingyou've ever said to me.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
You're older than me also wow, they've been around
that long.
You're like a rude bitch.
I'm not trying to age you, Ijust meant they've been around
that long.
You're like oh, I was a bitch,I'm not trying to age you, I
just meant they've been aroundthat long.
We're the same age.
We're not the same age, you'reolder, shut up.
Yeah, exactly, they've beenaround since, like I was in
college or high school no, okay,yes, they've been around that

(30:25):
long.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
You terrible person.
I didn't mean it like that,because I remember I went with
my high school boyfriend.
We went to tour a college.
We went up to washington to gobecause we were going to go to
washington state university.
That's a whole thing foranother day anyway.
Um, but yeah, we flew spiritone of the times and, um, we
flew spirit up there and then weflew, united it was like night

(30:50):
and day difference.
I thought we might have been inlike first class, the way United
felt it was the most luxuriousflight compared to what happened
on Spirit.
Nothing bad happened, it wasjust rickety.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
That's enough to like .
That's all you need to say.
You don't want an airplane.
That's rickety, no.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Yeah, Sturdy period.
I was hoping to make it there.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
We did I just picture like chickens in the overhead
compartments and like livestockin the aisles.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Yeah, primitive.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Very primitive See we can't get out of like Joan has
infiltrated our lives.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
She's in our heads.
She's with us forever.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
It's terrible not by choice either.
Anyways, yeah, so I've.
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
I've never flown spirit, but I've heard horrible
things about it I feel like youand I should take a flight on
spirit just for the plot for theplot and the content yeah, I'm
down and just like see where arewe gonna go that's another
florida florida.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Florida, florida, oh man, yeah, no, definitely you
can go to, yeah, I don't think Iwant to take that long of a
flight, though.
Like let's just go to Florida.
Yeah, I'm not worried about thelength of the flight.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
I don't want to go to fucking Florida.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yeah, I don't think any.
I have any business in Florida,not going to Walt Disney World
or Epcot.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
You know what, though , I do kind of want to do that
thing where they do the drinkingaround the world.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Epcot.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
I want to do that.
I went to Epcot, not meexposing my alcoholism.
No, I mean, it sounds fun, Iwant to do that, but I feel like
there's not like that manydrinks for like all the
different countries.
I could be wrong.
It sounds super stupid, rightnow I mean, I feel like it's
like germany, we'd have to likedrink a beer, that's fine no, I
don't like that, but I don'tknow what I'd rather do is like

(32:43):
my bucket list is to go to alllike the epic parties around the
world, like actual october festin germany and then like actual
, like I don't really want to goto watch the ball drop in New
York, but like that's likesomething in Times Square.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
I'm not doing all that.
People wear diapers.
I know that I also.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
I don't like people no, yeah, exactly, and I'm not
standing for that long in thecold what am I doing?
Like sardines?
Oh, and now it's sponsored byPlanet Fitness and they give you
that weird Planet Fitness hat,so I'm not wearing that either
either.
It's sponsored by PlanetFitness, yeah, and so it's
purple.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
That's like the weirdest gym in the world.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Have you seen?

Speaker 1 (33:15):
those videos of like people like exercising.
So creepy.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Like what are they training for?
Yeah, like, what are you guysdoing?
It's like it's a guy.
He has like the pull-up barhere, but it's like up his ass,
like what are we doing, jumpingfrom side to side?

Speaker 1 (33:34):
yeah, I've seen those , yeah now I know what you're
talking about.
Yeah, so it is sponsored byplanet fitness I don't know,
yeah, but I don't know how wegot here.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
It was this year and last year because, like magnus
stallion wore like a purpleplanet fitness themed color, not
themed, but it was like thesame color as their branding and
like that's.
When I noticed I was like whyis everyone everything purple?
And then I saw sponsored byplanet fitness and anyways, it's
a fun fact for everyone, funfact of the day fun fact of the
day.
There we go with our fun fact.

(34:04):
We're back at it.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
We're waiting for actually the fucked fact we
already did, which was, uh, joanstefan I don't know if that's a
fucked fact, that's just no,her existences that's yeah,
that's just a truth, anunfortunate truth.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
It's true, yeah, but, joan, I've got beef with you.
You've taken over my tiktok.
We're gonna get a cease anddesist from joan.
Restraining not a restrainingorder, but a cease and desist.
Yeah, oh no, I want arestraining order, but a cease
and desist.
Yeah, I want a restrainingorder against Joan on behalf of
those people in their homes yeah, okay, we don't need to go back

(34:37):
to Joan, we're gonna get all.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
We're gonna get all riled up again.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
So, other than TikTok being our, you know, basic
fucking life our news and our goto content yes, we also love
reality TV and our newestobsession is dallas cowboy
cheerleaders america'ssweethearts, one on netflix yeah
well, I mean, we both watchedlike growing up.

(35:02):
We both watched the making theteam dallas cowboy cheerleaders
which really fucked my head up.
Like to be quite honest I justthought I could make it for sure
I was like I know I was like.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
I mean, I always wanted to be one because in my
mind.
I was like, if I wanted to try,I'd make it like but one like
back, like when they used tomake, it like when it was on,
like what, was it cmt orsomething like that yeah, cmt I
first of all.
I know I would be too short I'monly five feet tall and I know
that they like cut one girlbecause she was like five, five.

(35:33):
So I was like well, there goesthat dream also.
I remember them talking aboutthis one girl.
They were like she looks reallycurvy, the girl the way they
weighed like 115 pounds and I'mlike all right, well, um, there
goes that yeah, the way theylike describe girl.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
They've gotten better , but it used to be unhinged
back in the like 2000s.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
Yeah, back in the 2000s, when you know tabloids
were calling, you know jessicasimpson fat, yeah, even though
you know she had like an amazingbanging body yeah, no, it was
insane times.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Oh yeah, it was like, yeah, yeah, an america's next
top model was the same era likea tv, when they were insane like
I.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
I really feel like that's why all millennials now
have extreme body dysmorphia,because we were told that If you
had like a very slightcurvature to your body, Ew
you're disgusting You're so fatGet the fuck out of here.
Like ew, you fatty Get out.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
It's like, oh my God, that was considered not, but
now it's different, which iscool.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Now it's different, which is great, but in my head
I'm like ew, you fatty, get outof here Like ugh.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
And that sucks.
And that sucks because that'swhat the that's literally what
was portrayed on TV all through,like us growing up as like
girls next door, which was likeI wanted, yeah, and then I watch
.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
I'm trying to be her too.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yeah, I was like watching like well, that bubble
kind of got burst when I learnedlike the reality of it.
And I watched, like thisdocumentary on Hulu about like
the Playboy mysteries, which wasinteresting, and then Holly and
Bridget and all theirexperiences and coming out and
talking about it.
So I'm like oh damn.
But you know, I mean likelooking at it when you're
younger.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
you're like oh that was so glamorous.
It's like you aspire to be that, yeah.
And then I put the piecestogether.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
I'm like wait, they were like in their 20s and this
man is old as hell, and theywere all with like then you
realize what old men, but notnot old like, not geriatric,
honest, like I'm sorry I'm notpushing your wheelchair and
holding your oxygen tank.
I'm sorry, I don't care howrich, he was a millionaire, I
don't care how rich you are.
I can't.
Billionaire, don't care, Icouldn't do it, I'd pull the

(37:36):
plug oh my god and pull the plug.
Bye-bye, nice meeting you.
Bye-bye, bye-bye, nice meetingyou.

(37:57):
Sir, I'd make sure I was in thewill and then I'd be like uh-oh
, oops, I unplugged it.
I need to charge my phone.
My laptop's dead.
Sorry, I'm trying to makecontent.
Well, he's a perv.
What are you doing with me?
You're old as hell.
Get someone your own age.
They're dead, not my problem.

(38:20):
Exactly.
Go be with your girl in heaven,like what is called the
yearning for the yearn for theearn.
Do you that one old lady she'slike I yearn for the earn, do
you remember?

Speaker 1 (38:39):
do you remember that video I don't know what it was.
It had to have been like somekind of dating show and they
asked this girl what her likeage requirement was and she said
21 to coffin 21 to coffin.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
I did not do that.
But I mean, some people settheir age range on like dating
apps.
To that, but to coffin no, Imean like like it's like 80 plus
or something.
I don't think those people knowhow to work a phone, but what
would your age range on thedating app be?
What would mind me?
Yeah, like I've beenconsidering like thinking of
like starting one up again.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Yeah, yeah, crazy, I know okay, so what would you put
as your age range of a man youwant to find?
The oldest probably like 45 see, I think I would start at 45.
I'm going down to like 24.
Oh no, no, no, I don't wantanyone younger than me, not, so
not no like.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Are we talking serious relationships or like?
Yeah oh, okay also.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
I really don't.
I wouldn't want to hook up.
This is all hypothetical.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Yeah, this is hypothetical, I really don't, I
wouldn't want to hook up.
This is all hypothetical.
Yeah, this is hypothetical.
Anyways, I don't even know whatwe're talking about.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
We started talking about Dallas Cowboy Chili's, oh
yeah.
And then we ended up talkingabout old men, old men.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
I don't know how we got here, but yeah, dallas
Cowboy Chili's.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Yeah, we should probably get back to the topic,
the og one was cool but it just,you know, scarred me for life.
But that's cool.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
A lot of things scarred me well, and I think it
scars them too because, like mybiggest takeaway from watching
the show was I felt like theyall had so many insecurities in
themselves and I'm like you guysare the baddest bitches on the
planet like own it and I feltbad for them.
It's understandable becauseit's like the job it comes with

(40:25):
it.
It's the lifestyle, yeah butstill, it's just like damn.
Yeah, like they you all shouldbe owning it like and to think
like.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
they all have insecurities yeah they all like
kind of hate not hate themselves, but it's like they just
they're not happy.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Yeah, like they could be better and it's like girl,
like so many people want to be.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Yeah, you want to know what I would give to look
like them no, seriously, or liketo dance like them.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
What was cool, though , is that the other biggest
takeaway was that it was badass.
They advocated for more moneyand they got money, and they got
a 400 increase.
So and I it sucks that theydon't get to benefit from it,
but the fact that it showed that, like how they're such like
real ones for like advocatingthat's a girl's girl and they're
like they wanted to come in andmake the team better than when

(41:09):
they left it or when whatever,you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
So like just like a quick recap of it in case you
haven't watched it.
So it's america's sweetheartson netflix we it was only seven
episodes for this season, so wewere like able to binge it
really quick because we wantedto talk about it today.
Yeah, but they, they became sopopular.
I mean, the dallas cowboycheerleaders have always been
popular, but they became evenmore popular last year off of

(41:36):
the success of the netflixdocumentary.
Yeah, so they thought in theupcoming season that they were
going to get a pay raise becausethey were so relevant.
Basically, like everyone waslike people were coming to see
the cheerleaders.
There were shirts made sayingI'm just here for the
cheerleaders?

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Well, their value went up, their name, image and
likeness went up.
They have about everything theyadded.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
They gave.
So they made the Dallas Cowboysso much more money off of them
just being them.
So when they came in theythought their contracts were
going to be much better than theprevious year Because they
advocated for that a little bitit was the exact same.
They got no pay raise, no,nothing.
And they went to HR and HRreally gave them the cold

(42:20):
shoulder and made these girlsfeel very worthless.
They said they didn't feelvalued.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
This is a billion dollar organization.
This is Dallas Cowboys thecontracts for the players are
insane, but it's like peoplealso are coming now to see the
cheerleaders.
The cheerleaders are also anaspect and the team sucks.
Now I don't watch football.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Dallas Cowboys haven't really been anything for
a while.
Since the last time JoanSteffen fucking decorated the
room, they haven't been relevantfor a long time.
But people are very excited forthe cheerleaders so they
thought they were going to getat least compensated to have a
livable wage.
They're not even asking formillions or hundreds of
thousands.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
They're asking to be able to pay rent off of their
salary Without having to workanother job, and also be a
Dallas Cowboys cheerleader.
Yeah, because it's a full-timejob.
They said they work 40 hours aweek.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
They work 40 hours a week there, but then they also
usually have at least one otherjob Some of them have two or
three, and some of them go tocollege and have boyfriends.
Yeah, have husbands, boyfriends, this, that it's just like.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
I was tired listening to their schedule.
You and.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
I are not busy people .

Speaker 2 (43:27):
I know it's hard to picture, but after listening to
them talk about how busy theywere, I was like, damn, maybe it
is hard to picture because Icannot picture being that busy,
but I realized you get tiredscrolling.
Yeah, no, but half of them werebusy.
I feel like, for reasons I havemy own theories they were busy
avoiding going home yeah, likethey just wanted to be able to

(43:50):
pay bills, pay rent and theywant.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
They said like we want to give our all to this
organization and we are, but wecould give you so much more if
we weren't bogged down withhaving responsibilities, yeah,
yeah, having you know, two otherjobs just to you know make rent
.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Yeah, so that was cool.
They went in, they advocatedthey couldn't get the deal for
that season.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Yeah, for that past year.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
For the 2024 season Now it's going into the 2025
season, but on the last episode,spoiler alert.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
If you're going to watch it, whatever.
We already spoiled it, butthat's not really a spoiler.
But they got a 400 increase inpay, which yeah is amazing.
And then the girls who went andadvocated for them.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
They it was their.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Last year it was their yeah like they, they could
have, like some could say oneof them could have but yeah, but
they all retired yeah, theywere just like kind of like.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
One girl said one girl had to because, like I
think you can only be in therefor six, six seasons, so one of
them just like eight aged outtechnically.
One girl said that she wasn'tcoming back because she didn't
feel valued.
Yeah, that was weird, I mean Iget it though, like if I had
some hr guy like kind of scoffin my face, like I would have

(45:08):
been like you know, fuck you tooyeah, I'm coming back.
And then the other girl she wasjust kind of tired, like she was
just like you know what, likeyeah I'm, I'm done like, I'm
ready for, like, the next partof my life.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Yeah, she seemed like the only one.
Jada seemed like the only onethat wasn't like.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Well, she was the one that aged out, yeah, and she
doesn't, or she was only fifthyear, I think.
No, she was a sixth.
Sixth, oh, I don't know, Ithink.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Sharni was sixth and Jada was five.
I could be wrong, but I thinkhappy and like in her life and
like yeah, but I mean I thinkshe had to grow into that
confidence.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
Yeah, like she didn't start that way, she didn't have
it.
In the beginning she just kindof was like all right, you know
what, like I'm gonna own it,this is me, I mean, yeah, this
is me exactly but yeah, they'reall like it's crazy to me
because I'm just like you guys,I would kill to be there, but it
seems so glamorous so whenthey're like that's.
The other problem is, like itseems so glamorous but who knows
what goes on behind closeddoors where they're like I don't

(46:08):
feel valued or like whateverand the other thing I thought
was crazy was that all thesegirls like it might not be every
single one, but they're gettingbooked for appearances outside
of the games, oh yeah so it'slike they're getting.
They're getting paid penniesfor the games specifically.
For the appearances, but thenalso, they have to do all these

(46:29):
appearances and they're justgoing to schedule you at a whim.
And also hey, you might workChristmas.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
Oh, hey, also, we're going to pull you for like a
week to go here and there andit's just like your time isn't
your own and also I can't payrent.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Yeah, that was.
Another critique that I had wasof just the season, was that
they didn't show the Christmasor the Thanksgiving games like
they did last season.
Like the performances, theydidn't show any performances,
which was like a critique, and Ijust wanted one.
They were focused more on thegirls.
Yeah, I wanted one full outperformance of Thunderstruck, at
least.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
They did show that, didn't they full out.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Performance of Thunderstruck at least they did
show that, didn't they?
Not really, they just showedthem kind of like doing it
without the actual music,without the full out performance
, just like one time.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
I just want to see Thunderstruck.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
I just love Thunderstruck.
I think after a couple ofchampagne bottles I could do
Thunderstruck, yeah right.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
I don't know.
We'll see if later we make avideo.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
I was on high school cheer for three years okay never
danced before, I don't, and I'm32 now I don't.
There's no way I would everwent in my head.
I'm like, oh, we're gonna gohome and be like what happened
to you, be like I've done ourstruck, I'm fucked up my hip dcc
.
Yeah, that's the other thing.
That's crazy, though, is thatthey all have hip issues because

(47:45):
of the jump split.
Yeah, I'm like damn, but it wasa good season and I thought it
was really cool that they hadArmani like go and perform
without her wig on.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Like for alopecia.
That was cool and just like hada theory that, like Kelly,
might be liberal.
I saw that on tiktok.
Okay, so I.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
When she said the kamala harris pantsuits and she
said kamala, yeah, she didn'tlike butcher it the way.
And then she talked aboutsaturn return?
Yes, and I was like, oh,interesting so I think I had
this thought where judy thechoreographer.
So there's two main ladies,kelly and judy.
Judy's the choreographer, kellyis like basically running the
whole thing underneath they'reboth the bad bitches.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
Yeah, underneath charlotte jones yeah, so that is
jerry jones.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
So so I think so they were both former cheerleaders.
I think kelly really advocatesfor the girls because she said
back when she was a cheerleaderthat they didn't have the
services and the opportunitiesbefore.
So she in knowing theorganization from the inside out

(48:56):
.
I think she knew that thesegirls were never going to get
the pay that they deserved soshe did all those brand deals,
so she got them brand deals.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
She got them you know , free services for teeth
whitening hair yeah when I heardall that stuff I was like what
do you need money for?
No, not really, obviously.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
But like you know, she got them all these services
so that they weren't paying outof their own pocket, whereas
judy, who is the choreographerand a former cheerleader as well
, I think she's of the mindsetof well, I didn't get that, so
why should you?

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
I think she's living back in the 80s, when she was,
or I don't know when she was acheerleader.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
They're just like this is how it is you pay your
dues.
Yeah, she's like this is whatit is.
This is how the sacrifice youmake to be on this team and it
it's a privilege.
You're lucky to be here.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
So take what you're given and basically shut up.
That's what I feel like she isabout.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
I don't know Whereas.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
Kelly's more of an advocate for the girls.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
I think Kelly's more of an advocate, only because
she's the one where I likeoutspoken.
I think Judy's just quiet, butI don't think she's more like.
This is how it was.
I think she's just kind of like.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
I don't want to say anything which means that she's
not being a girl.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
Yeah, exactly but the girls who like really stepped
up because that's like a crazything to do, not crazy, but in
like in a good way.
It's like a really bold thingto do to go and advocate for
yourself because they could haveeasily been like every girl
wants to be on the dallascowboys cheerleaders yeah, and
that's why it's been an issuefor so long.
but it's awesome to see thatthey got the pay raise they so

(50:24):
well deserved.
Yeah, but it was a good seasonand then I was.
I have like a few notes aboutit.
I just thought it was weirdthat they showed Victoria so
much.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
I know, yeah, I thought, like they showed
Victoria, who was very prominentin the last season and then she
quit DCC, that they showed hermoving to york and becoming or
auditioning or wanting to.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
She still hasn't made it to be a rockette and check
tiktok a lot, which I was likewhy are we showing victoria?

Speaker 1 (50:51):
because also she wasn't not to be mean, she
wasn't really my favorite lastseason no, but she was kind of
again, we don't know what thecircumstances are and I don't
want to like be a bitch, but shewas in my head kind of a cry
baby.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Yeah, she was a victim, which sounds bad, but I
don't know her experience, butshe's like she said something
like if I went to practice and Ididn't put in an effort to say
hi to people, no one would havesaid hi to me and I could have
left without anyone saying hi.
I was like, well, maybe that'syour fault, but like I don't
know who knows yeah but at thesame time, yeah, she, it was for
a reason, but I just was likewe're and then she was like

(51:31):
we're gonna get a spin off ofvictoria yeah, and so I had
heard, like last season, thatthere was like issues with
production and her mom and thembeing like really pushy, like
trying to get on the show andlike make it about them, and so
I was, but I think they likeproduction really liked them and
they like felt bad for her sothey put her on this season

(51:51):
because, like the show is bynetflix, it's not by yeah, the
cowboys so they can cast whoeverthey want.
So it's like they follow thestories of whoever was on last
season and follow up.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Maybe they thought she, the fans, adored her.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
I mean, maybe people do, I don't know some people do,
I think, like her, some peoplelike understand or like relate
to her.
But yeah, she also was like Iwant to move past it and she has
like kind of negative things tosay about it, about her
experience, but then all shewears is dcc merch and like I'm
like okay, so do you want toforget it?

(52:24):
And you don't like them?
Or like all your wholepersonality and your whole room
and everything was all dcc andyeah, so I think I don't.
Also like I don't know, I feellike it's hard when your mom
used to be a dcc because her momdid and like same with the
other girl, dayton, like it'slike yeah, I felt I felt bad for
her I feel bad for them, boththem.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
I feel like it was just like pushed upon you.
Like you, this is what you needto be.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
I don't feel like she had the fire or the passion for
it.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
It was just like an obligation.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Yeah, exactly.
So, yeah, I felt bad for them,but I was really happy when
Kelly and Charlie made the teamBecause they were on the season
last year they didn't make it.
And then they made it, so I washappy for them and I love Reese
.
I don't know what's with all ofthese girls and their
boyfriends.
I love Reese's husband.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Yeah, he's sweet and he's cute with his cooking
videos and I love that.
But yeah, it's interesting tosee some of the boyfriends
because, like you know thatTikTok trend, again we're're
gonna take it back to tiktok.
You know that tiktok trendwhere?
It's like the me and the guywho traumatized me and it's like
a fucking dude from like it's abratz doll.

(53:32):
And then the dude from likewallace and gromit, not to say I
haven't had my share of oh no,I definitely.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
But it's like, okay, I could participate in that
trend multiple times.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
When your frontal lobe cortex isn't fully
developed, you're just kind of,you know, winging it, still
don't know if I have it.
Still don't know if I have it.
You're like, yeah, still mighthave chose after that.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Anyways you know what ?
That's not my fault, that wasnot my problem.
Yeah, no, definitely it wasinteresting to see, but it was
overall a good show.
I liked it.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
And I wish there was more.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
I wish there was more than seven episodes for sure.
I mean, I feel like we shouldget like a.
I feel like, yeah, I think thenext season should be like 10
episodes, yeah definitely.
I feel like last season theyfocused a lot on the
performances like the Dollyparton performance and like the
thanksgiving game, but yeah,yeah this time it was just more
about the girls yeah, theirteammanship and, you know,

(54:33):
camaraderie.
Yeah, I'm like I want to seethat you're like I don't give a
fuck about your friendship.
I want to see your performance.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Oops, I should be clapping.
Sorry, that was a loud clap.
Yeah, I want to see the seathunderstruck just once full out
, so I can pretend that I ampart of the team.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
Yeah, exactly, I can do high kicks, but I don't know
how they do that jump split Iused to be able to I mean not
jump I used to be able to dosplits.
I haven't tried to do it in along time.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
I can still do this once, but not a jump split.
Yeah, I don't think I couldever do a jump split.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
I used yeah, I used to be able to.
I used to be like superflexible, not to suit my own
horror, but I used to beflexible.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
I I low-key want to try to do a split after we
record this just to see we canmake a tiktok that way you're
here to call me in case it goesterribly wrong.
Well, oh, my gosh yes.
All right Well we're going tocheers.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
One last.
Well, actually not one lasttime.
We got to do an outro later,but she has to tell her gremlin
story, which she did attempt totell on the last time we
recorded.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
I think I did tell it , I don't know.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
We don't remember.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
I don't want to know if that happened, I couldn't
tell you.
I definitely remember, but Idon't.
I'm blocking it out like itever happened.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
That wasn't me, that was Mary.
I hope you deleted thatrecording.
Oh no, it doesn't exist ever.
Okay, cool, no.
Yeah, cool, cool, cool.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
She gone.
Cool, cool, cool, cool.
Yeah, so my Gremlin story goesback to when I was.
How old was I?
Underage 14.
That's for sure, and I was inItaly with my parents.
Fancy and their friends have adaughter who was 18 at the time.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
So the drinking age in Italy is 18.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
So they went off.
Our parents went off to dinnerand me and her were like let's
go shopping or something.
I don't know what happened.
And then we saw these cuteitalian guys outside of some
restaurant and they were likecome to the garden with us and
we're like, okay.
Or they said gardenia, I don'tknow.
And they're like thediscotheque.

(56:41):
So we're like, all right, let'sgo.
Mind you, I have braces, okay.
Oh my.
They were like how oldotheques?
They're like all right, let'sgo.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Mind you, I have braces, OK, oh my God.
And they were like how?

Speaker 2 (56:46):
old are you and I was like 18.
And I have like a full, likebrace face, like I don't know.
I looked a mess.
I had like a poof in my hairand a Juicy Couture shirt on
Like Abercrombie, like.
Yes, very like Laguna Beach2008.
Like, oh my God, but I was 18in Italy, according to them.

(57:07):
But no, I was 14.
And it happened to be like 4thof July, but they don't
celebrate 4th of.
July there.
But me and my friend were likelet's celebrate.
So we went to this randomdiscotheque with these guys and
I ordered margaritas for somereason, because yeah, 4th of
July in Italy, get a margarita.
That makes so much sense.
Where are you?

(57:27):
I was 14.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
It was the only drink you knew.
It was the only drink.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
I knew what the heck it was.
Yeah, it was the only drink Iknew I was 14.
I didn't know what else toorder, so like a margarita.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
Did they?

Speaker 2 (57:38):
make it properly?
I don't know, I drank it, youwere 14.
I was 14, yeah, like a tough guy, probably the second margarita
I had in my life, like I have noidea.
So, yeah, we're at thediscotheque just doing
discotheque things when you'rein Italy.
And then I kind of lost myfriend.
I don't know what happened toher.
And then it was she wasprobably hooking up with one of

(58:05):
the dudes.
No, she definitely was.
So I went to go find her andlike there was this garden area
and she was definitely hookingup with one of the guys.
But oh yeah, I forgot tomention these guys were like in
their 30s and 20s.
I was 14.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
What are you me?
What is this?

Speaker 2 (58:15):
I wasn't into any of them, I was just there along for
the ride, I was just likewhatever.
And so we in our in this atthis point.
We drank a couple of margaritasand I found her and she was
done like whatever kissing thatguy she came back so I was like
hey, should we go?
And it's getting kind of late,and like we didn't have cell
phones and we couldn't callbecause this was in, I'm not

(58:36):
going to age myself, I don'tknow what year this was.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
You already said you're 32.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
yeah, so I don't know what year that was.
Do the math, I mean figure itout, yeah, so I don't want to do
it um, it was probably like2007, and so I had a like.
I had that orange phone, thatlike flipped up and it was a
keyboard, a sidekick like no, Iwish I had.
I had a sidekick later on, butthis was like that verizon one.
It was like an orange thing, Idon't know.

(59:00):
It didn't have a name I think Iknow what you're talking about,
but it had a keyboard, and thenit also was like a phone and you
could talk this way and thenyou could like flip it and yeah.
So I had that phone and, um, wedidn't have iphones and our
phones didn't work over there,so our parents couldn't call us,
so like they didn't know wherewe were.
And our gremlin minds is wherewe turned into gremlins because
we had a couple margaritas andit was.

(59:20):
We were celebrating and then wedid not know what time it was
or where our parents were, andso we were just like they're
probably still on appetizers,like they're probably still on
like salad, like we, because weknow how long our parents take
at dinner, or we thought, and sowe're like they're probably
still drinking dessert, like no,it was like hours had passed

(59:42):
and our parents were likelooking for us everywhere.
They were like asking peoplewhere we were they thought we
got taken and so they were likecalling the polizia and like
looking for us, and they wereasking like, have you seen any
girl?
Like where could they be?
And so everyone was tellingthem the gardenia, the gardenia.

(01:00:03):
So they were thinking like thegarden.
But the discotheque we were atwas called gardenia, that was
the name of it, but they werelooking for like a garden
because they were liketranslating it into english and
whatever.
So it was a whole thing.
And then we just come strollingup at like whatever time and
we're like probably like 2 amand they're like where have you
been?
And we were just like, oh,buzzkill, like and yeah, they

(01:00:25):
almost sent us back home on ourown plane, and not on our own
plane, but like our like yeah,not on a private jet, no, no no,
sent us home like on our ownplane.
Yeah, with like um, they were somad at us, but we were just
little gremlin I was 14, so whathappened the day after?
Like um, I mean, I was hungover right, oh yeah because I

(01:00:49):
was 14, no.
And then, um yeah, we were justkind of like in trouble you
guys like, weren't allowed to doanything after that, basically
yeah, we couldn't hang out likeby ourselves alone so we had to
like stay with our parents thewhole rest of the trip.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
With Buzzkill.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Yeah, but I mean it was an interesting time.
But yeah, I definitely feel badfor my parents because they
thought, like their 14-year-olddaughter got taken and we were
in like a small town in Tuscany,like in a little village, right
.
So it's like God only knowswhat could have happened to us,
like about, like I don't knowwhat.
I'm not a parent, but I'm surethey were terrified, but I was
celebrating the 4th of July inItaly with margaritas.

(01:01:28):
Sue me, I'm sorry, sorry forbeing patriotic.
Oh my god, and that's my littlemini gremlin story.
That's a good one, I like italright well, I guess that's the
episode that's the episode.
That's the episode.
Cheers, we're going to cheersout.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
We made it through and we barely talked about Joan.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Yeah, we didn't even touch on Joan.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Barely Okay.
Socials.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Oh, socials, it's four underscores, j Rose.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
J jrose j-a-y-r-o-s-e .
On instagram, tiktok, that'spretty much it, and then make
sure to go follow the podcastand myself at emily to gremlin
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But yeah, go follow instagram, tInstagram, tiktok Emily to
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(01:02:30):
any advice on anything happeningin your life, you can email me
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But yeah, that's pretty muchthe episode.
Make sure to like, follow,share, subscribe, all the things
.
I feel a little drunk.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Let's cheers, and that was a successful episode.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Holla Cheersies, bye, cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers,
cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers,cheers.