June 24, 2025 • 14 mins
What drives someone with a seemingly perfect life to take their own life? This raw, unfiltered conversation explores the devastating impact of unaddressed mental health issues, particularly in high-pressure professional environments.
The episode opens with a deeply personal story about a friend who, despite all outward appearances of success—family, career, stability—died by suicide. This tragedy serves as a powerful launching point to examine how we often miss the warning signs in those around us, and perhaps more importantly, how we might fail to recognize them in ourselves.
Physical and mental wellbeing emerge as inseparable companions throughout the discussion. One host shares his journey of addressing hypertension through consistent exercise and lifestyle changes, losing 35 pounds while maintaining a demanding business schedule. This practical example illustrates how prioritizing physical health creates the resilience needed to withstand professional stressors—making yourself "better prepared to handle all the crap," as they candidly put it.
The conversation takes a critical turn when addressing the gender disparity in seeking help. At a recent industry mental health panel, approximately 90% of attendees were women, highlighting how men often avoid these crucial conversations due to perceived weakness. As one host confesses, "I may be one of the biggest bears in the room as far as being the tough guy, but I have problems and issues, and I need this stuff as much as the next person." This vulnerability creates space for listeners to acknowledge their own struggles.
The power of community emerges as perhaps the most actionable takeaway. From simple check-ins to physically showing up during someone's crisis, these small acts of connection can make the difference between someone spiraling or finding their way through difficulty. Have you reached out to a colleague who seems distant lately? Your call might be exactly what they need today.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good family man, hard worker, worked for the union,
all the things that line up tothis not happening.
And then he did it, and he didit in front of his wife.
And so for me there's so manythings to unpack there.
Mark, right, it's like OK timeout.
He had all these things goingwell.
(00:20):
They were talking, they wereplanning a vacation, their kids
are doing well in school.
Their daughter actually goes toschool, my, my daughter.
That's how we found out aboutit.
My daughter found out first,which was horrible.
Um, but there's so many thingsto unpack there, because for me
I always think, um, you know,first of all, how bad does it
get for you to have to do thatand just do it the act alone,
(00:43):
and then to do it in front ofyour wife.
And then you know, and thenhave you think about, like I
think about everything, I thinkabout my kids, I think about the
people around me.
Who would it affect?
I'm just that guy.
I always feel like any movethat I make, what would it do to
the people around me?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I appreciate you bringing up the, the health, the
mental and physical aspect.
We all know it's interconnectedand spiritual and that.
So there's a lot you know andas a leader of a company in this
case, you know we talked aboutentrepreneurs and running MSPs
and the demands of that.
You're right, it's not justabout feeding our own mouth but
(01:19):
those around us, right, and makesure it just it just spreads
out from there.
So we need to be healthy andstrong and mentally and
physically and I've maybe saw onsocial media recently, you know
, hit that half a century markand celebrated that out in Vegas
.
Here was that week ago or so.
Prior to that, I just starteddoing a lot of reflecting right
(01:42):
A going.
Oh my gosh, I can't believe I'mgoing to be officially old or
whatever we thought.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Hey, easy, that's the mark.
A couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Well, it's another decade, right, it's a big number
If you think about it.
And where are you at in lifeand where it's going to look at,
what's the next half going tolook like?
But I had an incident where Iwent to the doctor and and and
they're like hey, like we needto be, you're hypertensive, like
no shit.
Like do you know what to dealwith Right?
Like um, like well, let's putyou in my.
(02:14):
No, we're not putting on meanything, we're not doing that.
Let me see if I can fix itRight.
Like I know I've been slacking,so let me let me, you know,
focus on me, get that exercisein.
You know I've.
I've, since that was January16th, I've since dropped 35
pounds.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I see the difference, my friend.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Thanks, I'm making the effort and, you know, trying
to hey even at that 30 minutesession on the treadmill in the
morning getting that walk in andget the incline walk in, trying
to make that a priority, evenat that 30-minute session on the
treadmill in the morning,getting that walk-in, get the
incline walk-in, trying to makethat a priority, even if sleep
needs to be a priority too, andI think we don't give ourself
enough of that, and I don'taverage enough nearly.
But even this morning it waslike going no, you've got it.
(02:56):
Regardless, maybe I didn't getmy full 30 in, but I got my 23
and I was like, hey, I gotta getmoving, um, but making that a
priority, or even, you know,going on vacation or traveling,
I still try to make sure I'mgetting something in.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Um, yeah, because that's the only way I'm gonna
come combat a lot of these otherthings we're faced with well,
that's the other side of it,right you're, you're gonna make
yourself better prepared tohandle all the crap that we're
talking about, right?
Instead of just being engulfedin it and getting stuck in the
weeds and not having any moments.
You're worse apt to handleeverything If you don't have the
(03:34):
rests, if you don't get themental breaks, if you don't get
the physical breaks, if youdon't do the things that you
need to do.
It's so much harder to dig outof that and you feel like you
know there's so much harder todig out of that and you feel
like you know there's so muchpressure.
I mean, in the case of you know, the thing that spun me around,
mark the, the friend that youknow I won't go too deep into it
, but the, the one friend thatgot so mentally unstable.
(03:56):
He killed himself and thisperson on the outside, like
sound old school Irishman, likegood family man, hard worker,
worked for the union, all thethings that line up to this not
happening and then he did it,and he did it in front of his
(04:17):
wife, and so for me, there's somany things to unpack there,
mark.
Right, it's like okay time out.
He had all these things goingwell.
They were planning a vacation.
Their kids are doing well inschool.
Their daughter actually goes toschool.
My daughter, that's how wefound out about it.
My daughter found out first,which was horrible.
(04:39):
But there's so many things tounpack there because for me, I
always think you know, first ofall, how bad does it get for you
to have to do that.
Just do the act alone and thento do it in front of your wife
and then have you think about it.
I think about everything.
I think about my kids, I thinkabout the people around me.
Who would it affect?
I'm just that guy.
(04:59):
I always feel like any movethat I make, what would it do to
the people around me?
Right, and sometimes Ioverthink that with things that
I'm doing.
But I couldn't unpack it, mark.
I couldn't figure out how badyour brain, what state your
brain had to be in to get tothat point and do that, knowing
that that's it.
That's the end, that's it.
(05:21):
And, by the way, I sometimessay to myself you know what a,
what a coward's way out?
right, because you know you, yougot to get out, but everybody
around you is going to beaffected for a very long time
after that but then okay, butthen that's another thing that's
going to be in going throughtheir brain, like how, what does
the human mind have to be goingthrough for that to happen?
(05:42):
Right, and guess what?
At the end the day, whateverybody said was it was his
job.
Like imagine that it was hiswork that drove him to this in
the, his job in the union, andit's like, oh my God, that
clicked for me.
Like then I was like, oh my God, I have so many friends I need
to call right now.
Like you know what I mean.
(06:03):
It's like because in ourindustry, we see it, we have so
much shit happen to us, whetherthere's a you know, there's a
security incident, or employeesleave, or employees do really
bad stuff, you know, or familyproblems, right, there's all
these things that happen.
And so what do we do as acommunity to stop to at least
(06:24):
listen?
We're not going to stop it, butmaybe we can help it and maybe
we can stop.
Maybe we could have it happenless if we're aware and we start
to talk to owners and everybodyin the business not just owners
, service managers, techs,everybody has stuff that they
have to deal with.
Like we eased into thisconversation.
(06:47):
Then, all of a sudden, here weare, we're talking about it,
Right right.
If you were at an event andthere was a room where they were
talking about mental health,how likely are you to go in
there?
Right, and that's the thingMost owners would be like oh, I
don't need that and go to thenext session.
But if they happened in thereand we were talking like this, I
think that changes thatnarrative because it's like,
yeah, shit, I do have a lot ofstuff on my plate and my brain's
(07:11):
all over the place.
So, changing that and making ithappen because, by the way this
happened, mark CompTIA had anevent, had a conversation around
mental health.
I think Desiree was on thatpanel.
They did a really great job,but I think it was like 90% of
the people in the room werewomen.
The men didn't go in, right,and I gotta be honest, it's the
(07:32):
men who need it most.
From a standpoint of the womenare more in touch with.
Hey, I'm going to check thisout and I'm going to find ways
to.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
But I'm assuming as a as a man, it's a sign of
weakness if I'm in there, or I'mstronger than that.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah, that's what I mean when I say that.
It doesn't mean that womendon't work as hard, because I
think they work harder.
What I mean is men are sostubborn and they think, well,
I'm weak if I go do that.
And to me, you know, now morethan ever, all business owners
and, for all people, humans.
So you know, my point about themen and women is that I feel
like, to me, women seem to bemore in touch.
They understand it and I, likeI say it all the time the reason
why we need more women in theindustry is because, quite
frankly, they're just betterthan us.
Mark, they are, you know, I meanevery, every female tech that
(08:29):
I've ever had has blown out,blown the men away.
They just, they just, they getit, they move, they do their
thing.
Sure, they have differentissues, like men have different
issues.
We all have issues.
Yes, I still feel like they'rebetter, they're more in tune and
they click and they work andthey go.
But of course, like all of us,we have things we have to deal
with in the mental side of ourbrain, so this helps all of us.
(08:51):
We have things we have to dealwith in the mental side of our
brain, so this helps all of us.
But yeah, I sometimes have tobe careful, mark, because I have
my friends, my female friends,who are like, hey, be careful
there.
That's not true, we need it too.
I'm like, no, you're notgetting what I'm saying.
I don't mean it that way.
What I mean is we're justdumber about this stuff.
We just don't need that.
(09:15):
I don't need to be in that roomand, honestly, this whole entire
community needs to be in thatroom.
We all need to hear it, we allneed to discuss it, we need to
be open about it, um, and wedon't need to be made fun of for
being vulnerable on on crapthat's affecting us, cause.
Um, you know, I'll tell youright now, I may be one of the
biggest bears in the room as faras, like you know, hey, I can
be the tough guy, but I haveproblems and issues and I need
(09:36):
this stuff as much as the nextperson.
I'm willing to admit that andyou know, I I got to walk into
more rooms where people aretalking about this stuff and
ways to handle the stress thathits you and when you hit a wall
, you know what are your nextsteps, cause I've I've been in
situations where I felt likeholy crap, I have nowhere to
turn, I have nowhere to go.
You know what's my next stepand you know.
(09:57):
Luckily I had good supportsystem around me and I and I
clawed my way out.
But I think if I was betterprepared for those moments and I
had better ideas of how to fixthat and get my mental state
right, I probably would havedealt with them even better.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I could imagine that and being obviously educated in
that right, Like so we talkabout.
You know, we're all people andpeople have problems, right,
we're all facing problems.
So I, as part of thatreflection I mentioned earlier,
you know, two years ago I lostone of my best friends, and you
know that is just one individual.
(10:32):
You know they stood at hisbedside with my hand on his
shoulder as he passed over,Right, Knowing that his
lifestyle put him there.
Yep, Right, If I look backfurther, you know, when you
start losing family members aswe age, you start losing family
members, start hitting a littlebit closer to you or a little
(10:53):
bit harder.
You're losing classmates, right, you know, some of my best
friends that I had in highschool have committed suicide
over the past five years and youstart really there's got to
start thinking about some ofthis and how it's impacting.
And we talk about understandingand even if it's like I said,
(11:14):
we're all going through stuff,we all have problems and even
reaching out to those people,right, Just checking in
Especially, you know, obviously,you know I'm part of a peer
group.
We have peers, we have peoplefriends with.
We know they're going throughsomething.
Sometimes it's hard from atiming aspect, because we're
being pulled in so manydifferent directions.
But stop yourself and justreach out, check in on them, Yep
(11:36):
, Because that could be all thedifferences that they need in
their world.
It's just knowing that, hey,you're there.
I've used this example before.
You know.
We've had, as you talk aboutcommunity and coming together as
peers to helping one anotherout, right, Showing up at the
doorstep and lending a hand, orI remember me being coaxed to
say hey, come to Arizona.
(11:56):
If anything you need to come,you need to let us surround you
so we can work this out, theseproblems you're having right,
Because I was going through ahuge thing at the time.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Yeah, I had.
You're right, and as we getolder we have more and more of
that, right, the classmates, thefriends, the people who are,
you know, I had that going alongwas a crazy thing.
Right, lifestyle, you said thatyou know, I had a friend who
rode motorcycles like a completelunatic and that caught up with
(12:28):
him.
It wasn't his fault, but itdoesn't matter, because he was
always speeding and runningaround and a truck pulled out in
front of him and boom.
So, you know, it's like what dowe, what do we do when that
stuff, when that happens, andhow do we deal with our own
emotions about it?
Right, you know, my wife, mywife, knew him very well too,
(12:49):
and my wife would just keepsaying you're so stupid, he's
stupid, you know, and she's madat him because you know it's
like look what you did, you leftus in this, you left us in this
state, and you know how did youdo that.
And then there's the other side,where I had a friend who
basically, now, this probablywas mental that led to physical,
he basically drank himself todeath and we didn't realize the
(13:11):
kid was leaving work, going tothe liquor store, buying a
bottle and drinking the wholething every night and that was
his routine.
He would go home from work, buya bottle, come home, blah, blah
, blah and nobody really caughtit.
You know what I mean?
No one caught this happening,so you just don't know what was
(13:32):
going through his mind, what washappening.
He went through a divorce, butdidn't you know.
Maybe if you had theconversation with him we could
have said, hey, but you got yourkids, you know, you don't want
to leave them and you don't andyou still want to love them.
Right, but maybe thatconversation just never got had
because no one knew that he wascompletely miserable.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
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(14:24):
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Good family man, hard worker, worked for the union,
all the things that line up tothis not happening.
And then he did it, and he didit in front of his wife.
And so for me there's so manythings to unpack there.
Mark, right, it's like OK timeout.
He had all these things goingwell.
(00:20):
They were talking, they wereplanning a vacation, their kids
are doing well in school.
Their daughter actually goes toschool, my, my daughter.
That's how we found out aboutit.
My daughter found out first,which was horrible.
Um, but there's so many thingsto unpack there, because for me
I always think, um, you know,first of all, how bad does it
get for you to have to do thatand just do it the act alone,
(00:43):
and then to do it in front ofyour wife.
And then you know, and thenhave you think about, like I
think about everything, I thinkabout my kids, I think about the
people around me.
Who would it affect?
I'm just that guy.
I always feel like any movethat I make, what would it do to
the people around me?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I appreciate you bringing up the, the health, the
mental and physical aspect.
We all know it's interconnectedand spiritual and that.
So there's a lot you know andas a leader of a company in this
case, you know we talked aboutentrepreneurs and running MSPs
and the demands of that.
You're right, it's not justabout feeding our own mouth but
(01:19):
those around us, right, and makesure it just it just spreads
out from there.
So we need to be healthy andstrong and mentally and
physically and I've maybe saw onsocial media recently, you know
, hit that half a century markand celebrated that out in Vegas
.
Here was that week ago or so.
Prior to that, I just starteddoing a lot of reflecting right
(01:42):
A going.
Oh my gosh, I can't believe I'mgoing to be officially old or
whatever we thought.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Hey, easy, that's the mark.
A couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Well, it's another decade, right, it's a big number
If you think about it.
And where are you at in lifeand where it's going to look at,
what's the next half going tolook like?
But I had an incident where Iwent to the doctor and and and
they're like hey, like we needto be, you're hypertensive, like
no shit.
Like do you know what to dealwith Right?
Like um, like well, let's putyou in my.
(02:14):
No, we're not putting on meanything, we're not doing that.
Let me see if I can fix itRight.
Like I know I've been slacking,so let me let me, you know,
focus on me, get that exercisein.
You know I've.
I've, since that was January16th, I've since dropped 35
pounds.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I see the difference, my friend.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Thanks, I'm making the effort and, you know, trying
to hey even at that 30 minutesession on the treadmill in the
morning getting that walk in andget the incline walk in, trying
to make that a priority, evenat that 30-minute session on the
treadmill in the morning,getting that walk-in, get the
incline walk-in, trying to makethat a priority, even if sleep
needs to be a priority too, andI think we don't give ourself
enough of that, and I don'taverage enough nearly.
But even this morning it waslike going no, you've got it.
(02:56):
Regardless, maybe I didn't getmy full 30 in, but I got my 23
and I was like, hey, I gotta getmoving, um, but making that a
priority, or even, you know,going on vacation or traveling,
I still try to make sure I'mgetting something in.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Um, yeah, because that's the only way I'm gonna
come combat a lot of these otherthings we're faced with well,
that's the other side of it,right you're, you're gonna make
yourself better prepared tohandle all the crap that we're
talking about, right?
Instead of just being engulfedin it and getting stuck in the
weeds and not having any moments.
You're worse apt to handleeverything If you don't have the
(03:34):
rests, if you don't get themental breaks, if you don't get
the physical breaks, if youdon't do the things that you
need to do.
It's so much harder to dig outof that and you feel like you
know there's so much harder todig out of that and you feel
like you know there's so muchpressure.
I mean, in the case of you know, the thing that spun me around,
mark the, the friend that youknow I won't go too deep into it
, but the, the one friend thatgot so mentally unstable.
(03:56):
He killed himself and thisperson on the outside, like
sound old school Irishman, likegood family man, hard worker,
worked for the union, all thethings that line up to this not
happening and then he did it,and he did it in front of his
(04:17):
wife, and so for me, there's somany things to unpack there,
mark.
Right, it's like okay time out.
He had all these things goingwell.
They were planning a vacation.
Their kids are doing well inschool.
Their daughter actually goes toschool.
My daughter, that's how wefound out about it.
My daughter found out first,which was horrible.
(04:39):
But there's so many things tounpack there because for me, I
always think you know, first ofall, how bad does it get for you
to have to do that.
Just do the act alone and thento do it in front of your wife
and then have you think about it.
I think about everything.
I think about my kids, I thinkabout the people around me.
Who would it affect?
I'm just that guy.
(04:59):
I always feel like any movethat I make, what would it do to
the people around me?
Right, and sometimes Ioverthink that with things that
I'm doing.
But I couldn't unpack it, mark.
I couldn't figure out how badyour brain, what state your
brain had to be in to get tothat point and do that, knowing
that that's it.
That's the end, that's it.
(05:21):
And, by the way, I sometimessay to myself you know what a,
what a coward's way out?
right, because you know you, yougot to get out, but everybody
around you is going to beaffected for a very long time
after that but then okay, butthen that's another thing that's
going to be in going throughtheir brain, like how, what does
the human mind have to be goingthrough for that to happen?
(05:42):
Right, and guess what?
At the end the day, whateverybody said was it was his
job.
Like imagine that it was hiswork that drove him to this in
the, his job in the union, andit's like, oh my God, that
clicked for me.
Like then I was like, oh my God, I have so many friends I need
to call right now.
Like you know what I mean.
(06:03):
It's like because in ourindustry, we see it, we have so
much shit happen to us, whetherthere's a you know, there's a
security incident, or employeesleave, or employees do really
bad stuff, you know, or familyproblems, right, there's all
these things that happen.
And so what do we do as acommunity to stop to at least
(06:24):
listen?
We're not going to stop it, butmaybe we can help it and maybe
we can stop.
Maybe we could have it happenless if we're aware and we start
to talk to owners and everybodyin the business not just owners
, service managers, techs,everybody has stuff that they
have to deal with.
Like we eased into thisconversation.
(06:47):
Then, all of a sudden, here weare, we're talking about it,
Right right.
If you were at an event andthere was a room where they were
talking about mental health,how likely are you to go in
there?
Right, and that's the thingMost owners would be like oh, I
don't need that and go to thenext session.
But if they happened in thereand we were talking like this, I
think that changes thatnarrative because it's like,
yeah, shit, I do have a lot ofstuff on my plate and my brain's
(07:11):
all over the place.
So, changing that and making ithappen because, by the way this
happened, mark CompTIA had anevent, had a conversation around
mental health.
I think Desiree was on thatpanel.
They did a really great job,but I think it was like 90% of
the people in the room werewomen.
The men didn't go in, right,and I gotta be honest, it's the
(07:32):
men who need it most.
From a standpoint of the womenare more in touch with.
Hey, I'm going to check thisout and I'm going to find ways
to.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
But I'm assuming as a as a man, it's a sign of
weakness if I'm in there, or I'mstronger than that.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah, that's what I mean when I say that.
It doesn't mean that womendon't work as hard, because I
think they work harder.
What I mean is men are sostubborn and they think, well,
I'm weak if I go do that.
And to me, you know, now morethan ever, all business owners
and, for all people, humans.
So you know, my point about themen and women is that I feel
like, to me, women seem to bemore in touch.
They understand it and I, likeI say it all the time the reason
why we need more women in theindustry is because, quite
frankly, they're just betterthan us.
Mark, they are, you know, I meanevery, every female tech that
(08:29):
I've ever had has blown out,blown the men away.
They just, they just, they getit, they move, they do their
thing.
Sure, they have differentissues, like men have different
issues.
We all have issues.
Yes, I still feel like they'rebetter, they're more in tune and
they click and they work andthey go.
But of course, like all of us,we have things we have to deal
with in the mental side of ourbrain, so this helps all of us.
(08:51):
We have things we have to dealwith in the mental side of our
brain, so this helps all of us.
But yeah, I sometimes have tobe careful, mark, because I have
my friends, my female friends,who are like, hey, be careful
there.
That's not true, we need it too.
I'm like, no, you're notgetting what I'm saying.
I don't mean it that way.
What I mean is we're justdumber about this stuff.
We just don't need that.
(09:15):
I don't need to be in that roomand, honestly, this whole entire
community needs to be in thatroom.
We all need to hear it, we allneed to discuss it, we need to
be open about it, um, and wedon't need to be made fun of for
being vulnerable on on crapthat's affecting us, cause.
Um, you know, I'll tell youright now, I may be one of the
biggest bears in the room as faras, like you know, hey, I can
be the tough guy, but I haveproblems and issues and I need
(09:36):
this stuff as much as the nextperson.
I'm willing to admit that andyou know, I I got to walk into
more rooms where people aretalking about this stuff and
ways to handle the stress thathits you and when you hit a wall
, you know what are your nextsteps, cause I've I've been in
situations where I felt likeholy crap, I have nowhere to
turn, I have nowhere to go.
You know what's my next stepand you know.
(09:57):
Luckily I had good supportsystem around me and I and I
clawed my way out.
But I think if I was betterprepared for those moments and I
had better ideas of how to fixthat and get my mental state
right, I probably would havedealt with them even better.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I could imagine that and being obviously educated in
that right, Like so we talkabout.
You know, we're all people andpeople have problems, right,
we're all facing problems.
So I, as part of thatreflection I mentioned earlier,
you know, two years ago I lostone of my best friends, and you
know that is just one individual.
(10:32):
You know they stood at hisbedside with my hand on his
shoulder as he passed over,Right, Knowing that his
lifestyle put him there.
Yep, Right, If I look backfurther, you know, when you
start losing family members aswe age, you start losing family
members, start hitting a littlebit closer to you or a little
(10:53):
bit harder.
You're losing classmates, right, you know, some of my best
friends that I had in highschool have committed suicide
over the past five years and youstart really there's got to
start thinking about some ofthis and how it's impacting.
And we talk about understandingand even if it's like I said,
(11:14):
we're all going through stuff,we all have problems and even
reaching out to those people,right, Just checking in
Especially, you know, obviously,you know I'm part of a peer
group.
We have peers, we have peoplefriends with.
We know they're going throughsomething.
Sometimes it's hard from atiming aspect, because we're
being pulled in so manydifferent directions.
But stop yourself and justreach out, check in on them, Yep
(11:36):
, Because that could be all thedifferences that they need in
their world.
It's just knowing that, hey,you're there.
I've used this example before.
You know.
We've had, as you talk aboutcommunity and coming together as
peers to helping one anotherout, right, Showing up at the
doorstep and lending a hand, orI remember me being coaxed to
say hey, come to Arizona.
(11:56):
If anything you need to come,you need to let us surround you
so we can work this out, theseproblems you're having right,
Because I was going through ahuge thing at the time.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Yeah, I had.
You're right, and as we getolder we have more and more of
that, right, the classmates, thefriends, the people who are,
you know, I had that going alongwas a crazy thing.
Right, lifestyle, you said thatyou know, I had a friend who
rode motorcycles like a completelunatic and that caught up with
(12:28):
him.
It wasn't his fault, but itdoesn't matter, because he was
always speeding and runningaround and a truck pulled out in
front of him and boom.
So, you know, it's like what dowe, what do we do when that
stuff, when that happens, andhow do we deal with our own
emotions about it?
Right, you know, my wife, mywife, knew him very well too,
(12:49):
and my wife would just keepsaying you're so stupid, he's
stupid, you know, and she's madat him because you know it's
like look what you did, you leftus in this, you left us in this
state, and you know how did youdo that.
And then there's the other side,where I had a friend who
basically, now, this probablywas mental that led to physical,
he basically drank himself todeath and we didn't realize the
(13:11):
kid was leaving work, going tothe liquor store, buying a
bottle and drinking the wholething every night and that was
his routine.
He would go home from work, buya bottle, come home, blah, blah
, blah and nobody really caughtit.
You know what I mean?
No one caught this happening,so you just don't know what was
(13:32):
going through his mind, what washappening.
He went through a divorce, butdidn't you know.
Maybe if you had theconversation with him we could
have said, hey, but you got yourkids, you know, you don't want
to leave them and you don't andyou still want to love them.
Right, but maybe thatconversation just never got had
because no one knew that he wascompletely miserable.
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