July 3, 2025 • 32 mins
Have you ever caught flashes of light from the corner of your eye, feeling certain someone was there, only to find nothing when you turned to look? You're not alone in this mysterious experience.
When several members of my Mediumship Mastermind group shared similar stories of peripheral flashes during their spiritual work, something fascinating emerged. After asking everyone to intuitively identify these phenomena, one group unanimously sensed fairy or elemental energies, while another group perceived them as galactic or Pleiadian communications. Same experience, completely different interpretations.
This revelation sparked profound questions about spiritual discernment. How much does it matter what we label energy if the message feels the same? And how do we grow in discernment without becoming rigid in what we think we know?
The truth is, we often get caught in the human desire for categorization – needing to identify exactly where spiritual information comes from before we trust it. But what if true discernment isn't about mental classification at all? What if it's found in your body's knowing – that gut feeling, heart resonance, or full-body awareness that signals alignment with your personal truth?
As we develop spiritually, we face a beautiful paradox: the more we learn, the more we realize how much we don't know. Discernment grows not through rigidity but through openness to possibility. Traditional mediumship provides an excellent starting foundation with its relatively objective feedback, but expanding beyond comfortable paradigms opens us to richer spiritual landscapes.
Whether you're a practicing medium or simply curious about spiritual experiences, this episode invites you to reconsider how you discern truth. Your departed loved ones, angels, guides, galactic connections, and higher self all have access to the same wisdom – you're simply tuning into different frequencies to receive it.
Ready to expand your spiritual horizons? Listen now and discover how your perspective shapes your spiritual experiences in ways you might never have considered.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello there, welcome back to empower your soul.
This is really interestingright now starting to record
this podcast episode because Ifelt called to pull a card for
the collective that's listeningto this podcast right now,
whenever right now is for you,whether it's the first time or
repeat, totally love that.
(00:21):
And I was shuffling some cardsout of the Energy and Spirit
Oracle by Sandra Ann Taylor andone card literally popped out at
me and I think it's for me, butI'm going to read it like it's
for you too, because as soon asI hit record for this podcast
episode, it felt like I wasgoing galactic again.
So if you can read energy andyou can kind of feel what my
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energy feels like right now,here we go.
I'm going to start to stutterbecause it's an outer body
experience.
Is literally what it feels like.
It feels like astral travelingwhile I'm here in the present,
talking to all of you.
So this is kind of like nextlevel channeling is the only way
that I can describe it, becauseit feels like I'm literally out
of my body channeling theinformation instead of spirit
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coming into my body.
Is that, is that weird?
It's a little weird.
Anyway, this card is numberfive, wisdom of the Magi and it
says mental clarity.
And the card says the Magibrings powerful, perhaps
life-changing, guidance for you.
My bell went off in thebackground.
I'll let you know.
It's in the other room.
I can hear it, though.
When this card appears in yourreading, it indicates an
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important project is eitheralready in works or may be
coming your way soon.
This may be something personal,or might relate to a career or
professional goal.
Either way, you have theability now to take on complex
endeavors, and you'll be guidedand inspired by this great,
eternal collective mind.
In ancient times, people soughtassistance from the Magi, the
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wise men who were alchemists andastrologers.
These masters were thought tohave access to hidden and
magical information.
So whenever you need input on adecision or plan, open your
heart and mind to the empoweringwisdom of this majestic group
of guides.
When meditating or fallingasleep, call on the Magi.
Enlightening guidance will becoming your way, and the
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affirmation that comes with thiscard is I am free to choose
positive and honoring thoughts.
My mind is open to theunlimited wisdom of the Magi
brings to my life.
Let's see if I can.
I'm going to ask these galacticpeople that are channeling
through me right now.
Could we please not have mestutter every two seconds?
That would be great, okay?
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Um, and I'll hold up for thecard for anyone that is looking
over on youtube.
It is um, looks, looks like a.
Um.
What's that movie big with thefortune teller?
You know what I'm talking about.
Looks like that guy on the card, okay?
So let's talk today all aboutyour perspective, and this is
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going to go really deep.
So so it's not just about yourperspective, but it was really,
really interesting and I've beenchurning in my mind all about
discernment for the past severalweeks to record a podcast
episode and, lo and behold, Ihave tried to write it a few
times or channel someinformation for all of you about
discernment, and I kept goingdown these rabbit holes that
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didn't make any sense.
And, lo and behold, lovelySarah pops into the Mediumship
Mastermind and asks me the exactquestions that you all need to
hear today.
And so here I am, deliveringthese amazing questions to you
and answering them, as channeledfrom spirit, in this session.
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So a few weeks back over on theMediumship Mastermind, we had
something really interestinghappen.
So Sarah had asked aboutflashing lights out of the
corner of her eyes, because shementions that while she's
sitting in her office doingreadings it feels like
somebody's driving by and shegets flashes out of the corner
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of her eye.
But when she looks there'snobody there.
She lives on a very quiet road,there's just cars don't come
down that road very often.
So I started laughing becauseshe asked this right after I had
gotten back from my vacation inthe Caribbean where every night
, like clockwork, I could sitfacing a certain direction and
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there were flashes out of thecorner of my eye every couple
minutes.
I mean, it was like clockwork.
I did it every night.
I was there because it was sowild and to let you know what it
felt like, it felt like therewas somebody to the right of me
at nighttime with a camera, witha flash, and it would be flash,
flash, flash, flash.
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And if I turned my head Icouldn't see it.
It was like your brain takesover.
Those of you that know you knowwhen you're looking at things
straight on, your brain can kindof discern it, get it out of
there.
You can't actually see it, butwhen it's in the periphery you
can recognize it and see it.
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And it was the wildest thing inthe entire world when I was
down in the Caribbean and it wasevery night like clockwork over
and over again.
For as long as I was sittingthere like hours I would sit
there and just see theseflashing lights out of the
corner of my eyes.
I loved it.
I thought it was really fun andinteresting.
The other girls in the groupalso the other women sorry,
they're not girls, I will workon that had stories about their
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flashing lights as well, andit's just really funny because
we were all kind of laughingabout it.
No one really knew what it was,but it was just kind of crazy
that everybody had similarexperiences and we acknowledged
that and kind of moved on to thenext topic at hand.
A few weeks later, sarah broughtup this topic again and asked
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everyone to tune in, if theywanted to, to these flashing
lights and see what they were.
And it was more of this likecuriosity experiment, which I
loved, and so she had done itherself and she was looking to
the mastermind for validation.
Do they perceive what sheperceives these flashing lights
are?
It is so funny because I tappedin but my intuition told me do
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not respond yet, let this go.
So I let it go.
I didn't respond and I leteverybody else in the group
respond first because I wantedto see what their responses were
too, and I'm so glad that I gotthat intuitive hit and I
followed it.
Because I got that intuitivehit and I followed it, because
the mastermind ladies allindicated that they were tapping
into this energy, thisvibration of earthly beings,
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fairies, elementals.
It felt very light, it feltvery fun and buzzy, but it
didn't feel bad.
It just felt like like I'mgoing to be honest kind of like
fairy energy.
At the same time, sarah askedanother group the same exact
thing and they responded all ofthem is that they perceived it
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as galactic or Palladian energy.
Nothing mentioned about earthbeings, nothing mentioned about
fairies.
Everyone kind of went off thedeep end on the galactic realm
and I loved this.
So Sarah sent me a message.
Actually, before I go there,I'm going to say when I tapped
in, I actually felt both.
If that's if that's funny.
I thought it was really funnythat I tapped in and felt both
and she had one group that saidone thing, one group that said
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another.
So I actually, when she sent methis message, I replied back
that I was actually feeling bothand it's kind of funny that two
different groups picked up onit.
So her message that she sent me, which was lovely, it said what
struck me was how both groupstapped into the same energy but
perceived it through differentlenses.
And what's interesting is thatthe second group works regularly
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with intergalactic beings andhad a strong focus on that kind
of energy, whereas this hadn'tbeen part of Sarah's personal
experience.
She didn't disagree with them,but it wasn't a framework that
she's worked with.
So it really made Sarah reflecton how our lived experiences,
beliefs, sarah reflect on howour lived experiences, beliefs
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and even what we are open to canshape and interpret our energy.
I mean spot on, spot on, sarah,like when is your podcast
coming on?
I'll post it for you here.
But she did leave me with twoincredible questions.
Again, these are thediscernment questions that I
meant to answer for all of you.
So number one was how much doesit matter if we label the
energy, if the message orfeeling is the same?
And number two, how do we growin discernment without becoming
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too rigid in what we think weknow?
Holy shit, right, amazingquestions.
Let's start with questionnumber one questions.
Let's start with questionnumber one how much does it
matter what we label, if theenergy or message you're feeling
is the same.
And as I was tapping into thisbefore hitting record here today
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, it was like ding, ding, ding,gold star, gold star question.
Because it's such a human thing,it's that shift from the human
to the soul paradigm.
Right, because as humans wewant labels for everything, we
want everything to be black andwhite.
It makes us feel safe, it helpsour egos and our brains put
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things into these nice littletiny boxes that we can
categorize and explain, and itmakes things predictable and it
gives us some semblance ofcontrol if we know where some of
this stuff is coming from,because then we can kind of take
a look at that and almostdiscern, like, do I trust this
message or do I not?
If it's galactic, do I trust it?
A little less than if I, thanit's my angels.
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But if you think about it, somany people are asking the wrong
questions.
Right, because they want toknow what is this, where is it
coming from?
Right, they want to have thatsemblance of control by trying
to figure out where the messageis coming from and what the
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message, what the exact answerthey want is or the exact
question they want answered is,but it is like untangling
spaghetti.
Question they want answered is,but it is like untangling
spaghetti Because a lot of andthis goes back to my corporate
days a lot of what people thinkthey want or need or know is not
actually what they think orneed or know, because a lot of
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people are asking the wrongquestions.
Asking the wrong questions,they want everything to fit into
their paradigm of I'm right, Ineed this information.
If I just get the answer towhat are my three next steps
here in this space and I trustmy angels to give that to me
because they're all knowing thenI'll take those steps and
everything's going to be right.
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But isn't that so interesting?
Because a lot of people aren'talways accepting of an answer if
it doesn't come from the placethat they want it to, if it
doesn't come with appropriateevidence or information or
people that help our egos feelsafe in the information that
we've received.
And I have to tell you, it'sthe ultimate trust in spirit
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where you, when you don't knowwhere this information is coming
from, and you just receive themessage.
And this is why I am such a bigproponent of learning all the
spiritual modalities that youcan, because a lot of this is
and I've said this over and overagain this is the same
information.
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You are just tuning into adifferent frequency to get it
because you bet your butt thatyour departed loved ones, your
angels and guides, your galacticbeings, your kashik records all
have access to the sameinformation.
But what are you mostcomfortable as, maybe the medium
, as the metaphysicalpractitioner?
But what are you mostcomfortable as maybe the medium,
as the metaphysicalpractitioner, what are you most
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comfortable tapping into?
What is your client mostcomfortable in receiving the
information from?
Spirit does not care where youget this information from.
It just wants you to receivethe message, the loving guidance
, the support so that you canlive your best and highest life.
So, yeah, it's interesting,right, because it doesn't really
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matter where the energy comesfrom, what we label it, as long
as the message or feeling isreceived by the client, so that
they can get exactly what theyneed out of it, by the client,
so that they can get exactlywhat they need out of it.
So I'm going to challenge you.
I'm going to challenge youwhether you're a professional,
whether you're getting a reading, whether you're in practice
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circles.
I'm going to challenge you.
Oh shit, we're going to do thisin the Mediumship Mastermind
tonight.
This is being recorded inadvance.
I know this is going to happentonight.
By the time you listen to this,this will be past tense.
But try, receive a message anddon't worry where it comes from,
who it comes from, it doesn'tmatter.
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It does not matter and it feelsuncomfortable, sure, but it
doesn't matter.
So, yeah, it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter, sarah, itdoesn't matter.
Moving on to question number two, how do we grow in discernment
without becoming too rigid inwhat we know?
Lord, I want to shout this fromthe rooftops because there's
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two different parts to thisanswer, and I'm going to answer
the second half first and thefirst half second.
So I want a first answer.
So I guess this is like 2A.
How do we become less rigid inwhat we know?
Ding, I'm just going to dingwhen the bell dings in the
background and I'm just sowhenever I, whenever I'm asking
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or thinking about these things,the movie what was it?
Contact with Jodie Foster backin the day, the very end of that
movie, which is, sticks out inmy head and I can't remember her
exact words.
Maybe you can, but paraphrasedis do we really think we're the
only ones out there, right, andthat was the whole thing about
Contact, right.
But again, do we really think wehave uncovered everything there
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is to know about the spiritualworld?
Do really do we think thatmedium this is mediumship done?
Soup to nuts Was no offense,edgar Cayce?
Was Edgar Cayce as good as itgets right?
Um, good as it gets right?
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Um, qhht I can't remember hername right now delores cannon do
we think that that's the bestthere get?
There is for bashar?
Is that the best there is?
Or do we think that we havejust tapped into the very
surface level of what the spiritworld is?
And there's so much more thatwe need to learn?
And so much more that we needto learn.
It's so much more that we can'teven fathom here in these
physical bodies, with thoselimited brains of ours, that we
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have yet to learn.
So I'm going to challenge youif you agree with that, which I
hope you do I'm going tochallenge you to think about why
are you rigid in what you thinkyou know?
And I'm going to tell you tolook within first, because does
it feel again, safe to staywithin a structure or a paradigm
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?
Does it help you give controlover how you perceive the
quality of your reading.
Are you the best medium in theworld if you get name, street
address, phone number, bankaccount number, social security
number right, like, do you thinkthat's the best there is?
Do we care about, like, provingthat life exists beyond the
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physical world, or do we want tocontinue the messages?
And it's not necessarily aboutthe evidence, it's about
continuing the communication andthe loving messages and the
advice and support and healingRight?
So I'm going to challenge you.
Are you typically someone who ismore black and white, who
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follows the rules right, whowants to be the best of the best
?
I'm chuckling a little bitwithin the existing structures
that exist today.
Well, lord, I was.
Did I tell you?
I graduated sixth in my highschool class and like fourth in
my college class.
Oh man, I was so good atplaying the game, right, I was
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so good at black and white, Iwas so good at following the
rules.
Doesn't mean you're going tostay there forever.
Obviously I haven't.
And after you really do thatinternal assessment, I want you
to look around.
Actually, I want to say lookaround you, look at your
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teachers, look at yourinfluences, but then I'm
reminded of the law ofcorrespondence here.
So what is happening within usLet me say that again, apologies
what is happening around us isa direct reflection of what is
going on within us.
So as you look around yourself,or you think about looking
around yourself, because as youmight be driving in a car I
don't know, maybe you're workingout good for you you might be
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surrounding yourself with thingsthat are mirrors of yourself.
Hang on, you're not.
It's not might you are.
You are surrounding yourselveswith mirrors of yourself.
Are you following moretraditional teachers on social
media or expansive ones?
Are you taking those classesfrom the old classics or are you
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experimenting and learning whoelse is out there to learn from?
Are you just taking mediumshipclasses or one type of class, or
are you taking many differentclasses?
Are you in a community thatencourages you to think outside
the box and challenge yourself?
How about your friend group?
Are they very rigid?
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Your family, are they veryrigid, like?
Are they very black and whitetoo?
These are all things that Iwant you to think about when I
say look around you is what isin your environment.
Who is in your environment?
How do they reflect on you as aperson and your perspectives?
Because you become rigid by whatyou allow in from education,
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from your teachers, from yourpeers, from your clients, from
spirit, from yourself.
And if you want moreexpansiveness, it requires you
to get uncomfortable.
It requires you to take classesthat maybe you wouldn't
normally take, read books thatyou wouldn't normally read.
Look for inspiration in yourevery moment of every day.
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Ask spirit to bring you more inyour readings and, as it comes
in, don't think of it asdifficulty or you failed because
you didn't get it right thefirst time.
Perceive it as interesting andan opportunity to grow.
Work with it.
There's a reason that that hasshowed up in your readings, and
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it's usually to expand you andmake you think differently and
keep this in mind, like youdon't have to agree or make
sense of what you received, andespecially if you don't even
know what it is right but workwith it and see what sticks.
And so I just want to challengeyou again.
You become less rigid bysticking to what's comfortable,
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by digging in your heels, bysaying no to new people, new
opportunities, new environments,and you grow as you say yes to
things that feel uncomfortable,and it doesn't mean you have to
stay there, but try it out.
It's like what I want to tellmy kids all the time.
I don't care if you don't likethe dinner, but you have to have
one bite.
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You have to try it before youtell me that you hate it, even
if it looks disgusting.
God, except this.
One time I cooked broccoli rabe.
I'll never cook that again.
It must have been rotten,because I will never eat it
again.
It made me gag, but I tried it.
So let's go to the first half ofthe question is how do we grow
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in discernment?
And I wanted to separate thisout because to me they are two
entirely different questions.
Because discernment doesn'tnecessarily mean truth, and I
think this is what gets uscaught up with discernment.
Because we think aboutdiscernment from a mediumship
perspective or spirit guide.
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Is this right or wrong?
Right, is it black or white?
Again?
But discernment doesn'tnecessarily mean true.
It means aligning to your truthand someone else's truth might
look very different.
Remember the timelines commentI made in the galactic episode?
People are living in multipletimelines with multiple truths.
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Your truth doesn't mean it'swrong for some, like wrong for
somebody else right, it could betrue for both of you, but it's.
But it could be also true foryou and only you.
Discernment again is a strugglewith the ego, the black white,
the right wrong.
But instead of going down thatrabbit hole, I wanted to offer
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and like time out.
You don't want to hear me go tothat, go there again.
I want to offer a differentperspective, because what if
discernment wasn't establishedin the brain?
What if it's established inyour body?
What if you could feeldiscernment, your inner truth,
with your gut, your heart, yourbody?
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Because we all know whensomething is true to us and I
want you to reflect back onsomething you know to be true,
something that you feel is trueDo you know that your departed
loved ones are with you?
How do you know that?
Do you get a warm tinglingbuzzing in your body?
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Can you feel it in your heart?
Can you feel the goosebumps onyour skin?
How do you know when you get anintuitive hit?
Because I'll tell you, what ifyou try to discern that with
your brain, it's going to rationits way out of it.
You just know it in the moment.
How do you know that sometimesthis is the right thing to do?
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I mean, I'll give you anexample.
I always knew I would never gofor my MBA.
I always knew that I wouldnever go for my MBA.
I always knew that Once Igraduated from my bachelor's
degree in business, I knew Iwould never go back to school
for an MBA Like walking out ofcollege.
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I knew I would never be back.
Why, I have no idea.
I had companies that paid forit for free.
Should I have taken it?
Yeah, probably, but I knew Iwould never go back.
And now here I am talking to youabout discernment in your gut.
Okay, so when you knowsomething is true, you just know
it to be true, and your logicand your brain should not be
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able to convince you otherwise.
So I just want you to know thatyour body will indicate
discernment for you, and itmight not happen right away.
Maybe discernment for you andit might not happen right away,
maybe discernment means, aswe're talking about these
flashes being galactic.
And it's not galactic, it's notin your wheelhouse.
Maybe there's an interest there, maybe there's curiosity there,
maybe it's not a knowing yet,but it's a hmm, it's not a hard
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no, and that is also discernment, right?
Because now you can take timeto think about this, to learn,
gather facts, ask spirit, tobring you things, and you might
change your perspective, or itmight evolve over time into a
deep knowing, whether it's aheck yes or a heck no, but just
that curiosity of not shuttingthe door.
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That's also discernment.
And so this more traditionalidea of discernment, and so this
more traditional idea ofdiscernment, whether it's right
or wrong, I want you tochallenge your whole basis of
that and say, like, who is thatfor?
Because that's for somebodyelse.
That's to prove your validity,your trustworthiness, your
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integrity to somebody else.
And I'm going to tell you,discernment should come from
within instead of outside.
And again, I want to bring thisback to mediumship for a moment
here, because I think this iswhy it is such a lovely modality
.
To start with, I think psychicis great too.
Psychic can be subjective,whereas mediumship, to me, is
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more objective, which is why Ilike mediumship a little bit
better, because it's black orwhite, right.
It's clear and agreed upon whatthe discernment of mediumship
is, both for you as the readerand the sitter as well.
You both have to agree thatyour uncle is departed, right?
You have to agree that he diedof lung cancer.
You have to agree that it'slike he had two left feet.
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I don't know why that one cameup, that he tripped all over
himself, couldn't dance oranything like that.
Right Like this is black orwhite information.
The answers are right or wrong.
There is clear and agreed upondiscernment between you and the
sitter, and so, for me,mediumship is such a wonderful
foundation for the spiritualwork If you want to work in this
space.
When I say the space, I meanspiritual communication, spirit
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communication.
That's how I kind of define itall.
It is such a great way for youto understand the basis and the
foundation of communicating withspirit and how you learn over
time whether it's your brainmaking it up or if it's spirit
coming in.
And because, once you'regrounded in that very clear
black and white discernment ofmediumship, then you can start
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to explore other modalities withthat same foundational trust.
Because how you know somethingis true in mediumship can be
literally like lifted and loadedfor those of you in the
corporate world.
For everyone else, you can copypaste it into the other
modalities.
You can copy and paste your,your discernment into spirit
guides, your higher selfchanneling, akashic records,
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galactic readings, because howyou know something to be true in
mediumship will show up theexact same way in the other
readings.
It may not necessarily feelexactly the same, it might not
look exactly the same working inthese different modalities, but
again, that core communicationfoundation, those components are
consistent across themodalities and you can trust
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them like one at a time, asyou're working in these other
modalities, by validating themessages, because sometimes they
come with evidence, even thoughit's Akashic Records and Higher
Self, and sometimes they comewith that feeling of just
knowing and that will resonatefor you and you'll be able to
learn discernment through thatspace again in your body, space
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again in your body.
And so I guess, to bring it homeand to answer your question,
sarah, I'm being reminded ofSchitt's Creek.
God, I hope they bring thatquote to me in a second.
The label doesn't matter.
Someone is saying it out loud.
I'm sorry I can't channel youright now.
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Um, but it's like the.
It's the wine quote fromSchitt's Creek.
Like it's I, I just like wine.
The label doesn't really matterto me, right, like that's it.
Realistically, it only mattersif the I'm just like reeling
back for a second, becauserealistically, no, the label
doesn't matter at all, butrealistically, if you have a
sitter, it it does matter alittle bit if it helps the
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message be received by thesitter, because our egos are
always going to get in the waythey.
We're human.
I wish we could throw that outthe window, but but it does.
But we can't.
So if it helps the sitter toresonate, that's kind of
essentially how I pick whatmodality I go in at this point.
By whatever, however, themessage will be best received by
the sitter.
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There you go, and then to answeryour other question, sarah, as
you grow in your abilities andmodalities, your discernment
grows with it.
And I'm going to end this withan Albert Einstein quote,
because I'm so lame God, I'msuch a nerd Because he said the
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more I learn, the more I realizehow much I don't know.
And I can tell you as Icontinue to evolve in this
metaphysical space, as now I'mgoing galactic and I'm learning
other modalities.
Honest to God, the more I learn, the more I realize I don't
know.
And so your discernment to meis almost like inverse to what
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you learn.
The more you learn, the lessdiscernment you have, because
you're just open to all of it.
You're like well, what's next?
What modality do I not knowabout?
Now, Give me more, I want tolearn more.
So there you go that hopefullythis was super interesting and
super helpful Philosophical alittle bit today.
I loved that so much andhopefully you're calling on your
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wisdom of the magi If you haveany questions or concerns about
this podcast.
But you can also email mepodcast at medium, nicolecom.
And I just want to thank youfor being here so much.
I appreciate you more than youknow.
So, from my soul to yours, Ihope you have a wonderful day.
Take care.
Hello there, welcome back to empower your soul.
This is really interestingright now starting to record
this podcast episode because Ifelt called to pull a card for
the collective that's listeningto this podcast right now,
whenever right now is for you,whether it's the first time or
repeat, totally love that.
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And I was shuffling some cardsout of the Energy and Spirit
Oracle by Sandra Ann Taylor andone card literally popped out at
me and I think it's for me, butI'm going to read it like it's
for you too, because as soon asI hit record for this podcast
episode, it felt like I wasgoing galactic again.
So if you can read energy andyou can kind of feel what my
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energy feels like right now,here we go.
I'm going to start to stutterbecause it's an outer body
experience.
Is literally what it feels like.
It feels like astral travelingwhile I'm here in the present,
talking to all of you.
So this is kind of like nextlevel channeling is the only way
that I can describe it, becauseit feels like I'm literally out
of my body channeling theinformation instead of spirit
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coming into my body.
Is that, is that weird?
It's a little weird.
Anyway, this card is numberfive, wisdom of the Magi and it
says mental clarity.
And the card says the Magibrings powerful, perhaps
life-changing, guidance for you.
My bell went off in thebackground.
I'll let you know.
It's in the other room.
I can hear it, though.
When this card appears in yourreading, it indicates an
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important project is eitheralready in works or may be
coming your way soon.
This may be something personal,or might relate to a career or
professional goal.
Either way, you have theability now to take on complex
endeavors, and you'll be guidedand inspired by this great,
eternal collective mind.
In ancient times, people soughtassistance from the Magi, the
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wise men who were alchemists andastrologers.
These masters were thought tohave access to hidden and
magical information.
So whenever you need input on adecision or plan, open your
heart and mind to the empoweringwisdom of this majestic group
of guides.
When meditating or fallingasleep, call on the Magi.
Enlightening guidance will becoming your way, and the
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affirmation that comes with thiscard is I am free to choose
positive and honoring thoughts.
My mind is open to theunlimited wisdom of the Magi
brings to my life.
Let's see if I can.
I'm going to ask these galacticpeople that are channeling
through me right now.
Could we please not have mestutter every two seconds?
That would be great, okay?
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Um, and I'll hold up for thecard for anyone that is looking
over on youtube.
It is um, looks, looks like a.
Um.
What's that movie big with thefortune teller?
You know what I'm talking about.
Looks like that guy on the card, okay?
So let's talk today all aboutyour perspective, and this is
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going to go really deep.
So so it's not just about yourperspective, but it was really,
really interesting and I've beenchurning in my mind all about
discernment for the past severalweeks to record a podcast
episode and, lo and behold, Ihave tried to write it a few
times or channel someinformation for all of you about
discernment, and I kept goingdown these rabbit holes that
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didn't make any sense.
And, lo and behold, lovelySarah pops into the Mediumship
Mastermind and asks me the exactquestions that you all need to
hear today.
And so here I am, deliveringthese amazing questions to you
and answering them, as channeledfrom spirit, in this session.
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So a few weeks back over on theMediumship Mastermind, we had
something really interestinghappen.
So Sarah had asked aboutflashing lights out of the
corner of her eyes, because shementions that while she's
sitting in her office doingreadings it feels like
somebody's driving by and shegets flashes out of the corner
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of her eye.
But when she looks there'snobody there.
She lives on a very quiet road,there's just cars don't come
down that road very often.
So I started laughing becauseshe asked this right after I had
gotten back from my vacation inthe Caribbean where every night
, like clockwork, I could sitfacing a certain direction and
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there were flashes out of thecorner of my eye every couple
minutes.
I mean, it was like clockwork.
I did it every night.
I was there because it was sowild and to let you know what it
felt like, it felt like therewas somebody to the right of me
at nighttime with a camera, witha flash, and it would be flash,
flash, flash, flash.
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And if I turned my head Icouldn't see it.
It was like your brain takesover.
Those of you that know you knowwhen you're looking at things
straight on, your brain can kindof discern it, get it out of
there.
You can't actually see it, butwhen it's in the periphery you
can recognize it and see it.
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And it was the wildest thing inthe entire world when I was
down in the Caribbean and it wasevery night like clockwork over
and over again.
For as long as I was sittingthere like hours I would sit
there and just see theseflashing lights out of the
corner of my eyes.
I loved it.
I thought it was really fun andinteresting.
The other girls in the groupalso the other women sorry,
they're not girls, I will workon that had stories about their
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flashing lights as well, andit's just really funny because
we were all kind of laughingabout it.
No one really knew what it was,but it was just kind of crazy
that everybody had similarexperiences and we acknowledged
that and kind of moved on to thenext topic at hand.
A few weeks later, sarah broughtup this topic again and asked
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everyone to tune in, if theywanted to, to these flashing
lights and see what they were.
And it was more of this likecuriosity experiment, which I
loved, and so she had done itherself and she was looking to
the mastermind for validation.
Do they perceive what sheperceives these flashing lights
are?
It is so funny because I tappedin but my intuition told me do
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not respond yet, let this go.
So I let it go.
I didn't respond and I leteverybody else in the group
respond first because I wantedto see what their responses were
too, and I'm so glad that I gotthat intuitive hit and I
followed it.
Because I got that intuitivehit and I followed it, because
the mastermind ladies allindicated that they were tapping
into this energy, thisvibration of earthly beings,
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fairies, elementals.
It felt very light, it feltvery fun and buzzy, but it
didn't feel bad.
It just felt like like I'mgoing to be honest kind of like
fairy energy.
At the same time, sarah askedanother group the same exact
thing and they responded all ofthem is that they perceived it
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as galactic or Palladian energy.
Nothing mentioned about earthbeings, nothing mentioned about
fairies.
Everyone kind of went off thedeep end on the galactic realm
and I loved this.
So Sarah sent me a message.
Actually, before I go there,I'm going to say when I tapped
in, I actually felt both.
If that's if that's funny.
I thought it was really funnythat I tapped in and felt both
and she had one group that saidone thing, one group that said
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another.
So I actually, when she sent methis message, I replied back
that I was actually feeling bothand it's kind of funny that two
different groups picked up onit.
So her message that she sent me, which was lovely, it said what
struck me was how both groupstapped into the same energy but
perceived it through differentlenses.
And what's interesting is thatthe second group works regularly
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with intergalactic beings andhad a strong focus on that kind
of energy, whereas this hadn'tbeen part of Sarah's personal
experience.
She didn't disagree with them,but it wasn't a framework that
she's worked with.
So it really made Sarah reflecton how our lived experiences,
beliefs, sarah reflect on howour lived experiences, beliefs
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and even what we are open to canshape and interpret our energy.
I mean spot on, spot on, sarah,like when is your podcast
coming on?
I'll post it for you here.
But she did leave me with twoincredible questions.
Again, these are thediscernment questions that I
meant to answer for all of you.
So number one was how much doesit matter if we label the
energy, if the message orfeeling is the same?
And number two, how do we growin discernment without becoming
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too rigid in what we think weknow?
Holy shit, right, amazingquestions.
Let's start with questionnumber one questions.
Let's start with questionnumber one how much does it
matter what we label, if theenergy or message you're feeling
is the same.
And as I was tapping into thisbefore hitting record here today
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, it was like ding, ding, ding,gold star, gold star question.
Because it's such a human thing,it's that shift from the human
to the soul paradigm.
Right, because as humans wewant labels for everything, we
want everything to be black andwhite.
It makes us feel safe, it helpsour egos and our brains put
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things into these nice littletiny boxes that we can
categorize and explain, and itmakes things predictable and it
gives us some semblance ofcontrol if we know where some of
this stuff is coming from,because then we can kind of take
a look at that and almostdiscern, like, do I trust this
message or do I not?
If it's galactic, do I trust it?
A little less than if I, thanit's my angels.
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But if you think about it, somany people are asking the wrong
questions.
Right, because they want toknow what is this, where is it
coming from?
Right, they want to have thatsemblance of control by trying
to figure out where the messageis coming from and what the
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message, what the exact answerthey want is or the exact
question they want answered is,but it is like untangling
spaghetti.
Question they want answered is,but it is like untangling
spaghetti Because a lot of andthis goes back to my corporate
days a lot of what people thinkthey want or need or know is not
actually what they think orneed or know, because a lot of
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people are asking the wrongquestions.
Asking the wrong questions,they want everything to fit into
their paradigm of I'm right, Ineed this information.
If I just get the answer towhat are my three next steps
here in this space and I trustmy angels to give that to me
because they're all knowing thenI'll take those steps and
everything's going to be right.
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But isn't that so interesting?
Because a lot of people aren'talways accepting of an answer if
it doesn't come from the placethat they want it to, if it
doesn't come with appropriateevidence or information or
people that help our egos feelsafe in the information that
we've received.
And I have to tell you, it'sthe ultimate trust in spirit
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where you, when you don't knowwhere this information is coming
from, and you just receive themessage.
And this is why I am such a bigproponent of learning all the
spiritual modalities that youcan, because a lot of this is
and I've said this over and overagain this is the same
information.
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You are just tuning into adifferent frequency to get it
because you bet your butt thatyour departed loved ones, your
angels and guides, your galacticbeings, your kashik records all
have access to the sameinformation.
But what are you mostcomfortable as, maybe the medium
, as the metaphysicalpractitioner?
But what are you mostcomfortable as maybe the medium,
as the metaphysicalpractitioner, what are you most
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comfortable tapping into?
What is your client mostcomfortable in receiving the
information from?
Spirit does not care where youget this information from.
It just wants you to receivethe message, the loving guidance
, the support so that you canlive your best and highest life.
So, yeah, it's interesting,right, because it doesn't really
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matter where the energy comesfrom, what we label it, as long
as the message or feeling isreceived by the client, so that
they can get exactly what theyneed out of it, by the client,
so that they can get exactlywhat they need out of it.
So I'm going to challenge you.
I'm going to challenge youwhether you're a professional,
whether you're getting a reading, whether you're in practice
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circles.
I'm going to challenge you.
Oh shit, we're going to do thisin the Mediumship Mastermind
tonight.
This is being recorded inadvance.
I know this is going to happentonight.
By the time you listen to this,this will be past tense.
But try, receive a message anddon't worry where it comes from,
who it comes from, it doesn'tmatter.
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It does not matter and it feelsuncomfortable, sure, but it
doesn't matter.
So, yeah, it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter, sarah, itdoesn't matter.
Moving on to question number two, how do we grow in discernment
without becoming too rigid inwhat we know?
Lord, I want to shout this fromthe rooftops because there's
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two different parts to thisanswer, and I'm going to answer
the second half first and thefirst half second.
So I want a first answer.
So I guess this is like 2A.
How do we become less rigid inwhat we know?
Ding, I'm just going to dingwhen the bell dings in the
background and I'm just sowhenever I, whenever I'm asking
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or thinking about these things,the movie what was it?
Contact with Jodie Foster backin the day, the very end of that
movie, which is, sticks out inmy head and I can't remember her
exact words.
Maybe you can, but paraphrasedis do we really think we're the
only ones out there, right, andthat was the whole thing about
Contact, right.
But again, do we really think wehave uncovered everything there
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is to know about the spiritualworld?
Do really do we think thatmedium this is mediumship done?
Soup to nuts Was no offense,edgar Cayce?
Was Edgar Cayce as good as itgets right?
Um, good as it gets right?
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Um, qhht I can't remember hername right now delores cannon do
we think that that's the bestthere get?
There is for bashar?
Is that the best there is?
Or do we think that we havejust tapped into the very
surface level of what the spiritworld is?
And there's so much more thatwe need to learn?
And so much more that we needto learn.
It's so much more that we can'teven fathom here in these
physical bodies, with thoselimited brains of ours, that we
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have yet to learn.
So I'm going to challenge youif you agree with that, which I
hope you do I'm going tochallenge you to think about why
are you rigid in what you thinkyou know?
And I'm going to tell you tolook within first, because does
it feel again, safe to staywithin a structure or a paradigm
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?
Does it help you give controlover how you perceive the
quality of your reading.
Are you the best medium in theworld if you get name, street
address, phone number, bankaccount number, social security
number right, like, do you thinkthat's the best there is?
Do we care about, like, provingthat life exists beyond the
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physical world, or do we want tocontinue the messages?
And it's not necessarily aboutthe evidence, it's about
continuing the communication andthe loving messages and the
advice and support and healingRight?
So I'm going to challenge you.
Are you typically someone who ismore black and white, who
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follows the rules right, whowants to be the best of the best
?
I'm chuckling a little bitwithin the existing structures
that exist today.
Well, lord, I was.
Did I tell you?
I graduated sixth in my highschool class and like fourth in
my college class.
Oh man, I was so good atplaying the game, right, I was
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so good at black and white, Iwas so good at following the
rules.
Doesn't mean you're going tostay there forever.
Obviously I haven't.
And after you really do thatinternal assessment, I want you
to look around.
Actually, I want to say lookaround you, look at your
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teachers, look at yourinfluences, but then I'm
reminded of the law ofcorrespondence here.
So what is happening within usLet me say that again, apologies
what is happening around us isa direct reflection of what is
going on within us.
So as you look around yourself,or you think about looking
around yourself, because as youmight be driving in a car I
don't know, maybe you're workingout good for you you might be
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surrounding yourself with thingsthat are mirrors of yourself.
Hang on, you're not.
It's not might you are.
You are surrounding yourselveswith mirrors of yourself.
Are you following moretraditional teachers on social
media or expansive ones?
Are you taking those classesfrom the old classics or are you
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experimenting and learning whoelse is out there to learn from?
Are you just taking mediumshipclasses or one type of class, or
are you taking many differentclasses?
Are you in a community thatencourages you to think outside
the box and challenge yourself?
How about your friend group?
Are they very rigid?
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Your family, are they veryrigid, like?
Are they very black and whitetoo?
These are all things that Iwant you to think about when I
say look around you is what isin your environment.
Who is in your environment?
How do they reflect on you as aperson and your perspectives?
Because you become rigid by whatyou allow in from education,
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from your teachers, from yourpeers, from your clients, from
spirit, from yourself.
And if you want moreexpansiveness, it requires you
to get uncomfortable.
It requires you to take classesthat maybe you wouldn't
normally take, read books thatyou wouldn't normally read.
Look for inspiration in yourevery moment of every day.
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Ask spirit to bring you more inyour readings and, as it comes
in, don't think of it asdifficulty or you failed because
you didn't get it right thefirst time.
Perceive it as interesting andan opportunity to grow.
Work with it.
There's a reason that that hasshowed up in your readings, and
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it's usually to expand you andmake you think differently and
keep this in mind, like youdon't have to agree or make
sense of what you received, andespecially if you don't even
know what it is right but workwith it and see what sticks.
And so I just want to challengeyou again.
You become less rigid bysticking to what's comfortable,
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by digging in your heels, bysaying no to new people, new
opportunities, new environments,and you grow as you say yes to
things that feel uncomfortable,and it doesn't mean you have to
stay there, but try it out.
It's like what I want to tellmy kids all the time.
I don't care if you don't likethe dinner, but you have to have
one bite.
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You have to try it before youtell me that you hate it, even
if it looks disgusting.
God, except this.
One time I cooked broccoli rabe.
I'll never cook that again.
It must have been rotten,because I will never eat it
again.
It made me gag, but I tried it.
So let's go to the first half ofthe question is how do we grow
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in discernment?
And I wanted to separate thisout because to me they are two
entirely different questions.
Because discernment doesn'tnecessarily mean truth, and I
think this is what gets uscaught up with discernment.
Because we think aboutdiscernment from a mediumship
perspective or spirit guide.
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Is this right or wrong?
Right, is it black or white?
Again?
But discernment doesn'tnecessarily mean true.
It means aligning to your truthand someone else's truth might
look very different.
Remember the timelines commentI made in the galactic episode?
People are living in multipletimelines with multiple truths.
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Your truth doesn't mean it'swrong for some, like wrong for
somebody else right, it could betrue for both of you, but it's.
But it could be also true foryou and only you.
Discernment again is a strugglewith the ego, the black white,
the right wrong.
But instead of going down thatrabbit hole, I wanted to offer
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and like time out.
You don't want to hear me go tothat, go there again.
I want to offer a differentperspective, because what if
discernment wasn't establishedin the brain?
What if it's established inyour body?
What if you could feeldiscernment, your inner truth,
with your gut, your heart, yourbody?
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Because we all know whensomething is true to us and I
want you to reflect back onsomething you know to be true,
something that you feel is trueDo you know that your departed
loved ones are with you?
How do you know that?
Do you get a warm tinglingbuzzing in your body?
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Can you feel it in your heart?
Can you feel the goosebumps onyour skin?
How do you know when you get anintuitive hit?
Because I'll tell you, what ifyou try to discern that with
your brain, it's going to rationits way out of it.
You just know it in the moment.
How do you know that sometimesthis is the right thing to do?
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I mean, I'll give you anexample.
I always knew I would never gofor my MBA.
I always knew that I wouldnever go for my MBA.
I always knew that Once Igraduated from my bachelor's
degree in business, I knew Iwould never go back to school
for an MBA Like walking out ofcollege.
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I knew I would never be back.
Why, I have no idea.
I had companies that paid forit for free.
Should I have taken it?
Yeah, probably, but I knew Iwould never go back.
And now here I am talking to youabout discernment in your gut.
Okay, so when you knowsomething is true, you just know
it to be true, and your logicand your brain should not be
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able to convince you otherwise.
So I just want you to know thatyour body will indicate
discernment for you, and itmight not happen right away.
Maybe discernment for you andit might not happen right away,
maybe discernment means, aswe're talking about these
flashes being galactic.
And it's not galactic, it's notin your wheelhouse.
Maybe there's an interest there, maybe there's curiosity there,
maybe it's not a knowing yet,but it's a hmm, it's not a hard
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no, and that is also discernment, right?
Because now you can take timeto think about this, to learn,
gather facts, ask spirit, tobring you things, and you might
change your perspective, or itmight evolve over time into a
deep knowing, whether it's aheck yes or a heck no, but just
that curiosity of not shuttingthe door.
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That's also discernment.
And so this more traditionalidea of discernment, and so this
more traditional idea ofdiscernment, whether it's right
or wrong, I want you tochallenge your whole basis of
that and say, like, who is thatfor?
Because that's for somebodyelse.
That's to prove your validity,your trustworthiness, your
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integrity to somebody else.
And I'm going to tell you,discernment should come from
within instead of outside.
And again, I want to bring thisback to mediumship for a moment
here, because I think this iswhy it is such a lovely modality
.
To start with, I think psychicis great too.
Psychic can be subjective,whereas mediumship, to me, is
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more objective, which is why Ilike mediumship a little bit
better, because it's black orwhite, right.
It's clear and agreed upon whatthe discernment of mediumship
is, both for you as the readerand the sitter as well.
You both have to agree thatyour uncle is departed, right?
You have to agree that he diedof lung cancer.
You have to agree that it'slike he had two left feet.
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I don't know why that one cameup, that he tripped all over
himself, couldn't dance oranything like that.
Right Like this is black orwhite information.
The answers are right or wrong.
There is clear and agreed upondiscernment between you and the
sitter, and so, for me,mediumship is such a wonderful
foundation for the spiritualwork If you want to work in this
space.
When I say the space, I meanspiritual communication, spirit
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communication.
That's how I kind of define itall.
It is such a great way for youto understand the basis and the
foundation of communicating withspirit and how you learn over
time whether it's your brainmaking it up or if it's spirit
coming in.
And because, once you'regrounded in that very clear
black and white discernment ofmediumship, then you can start
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to explore other modalities withthat same foundational trust.
Because how you know somethingis true in mediumship can be
literally like lifted and loadedfor those of you in the
corporate world.
For everyone else, you can copypaste it into the other
modalities.
You can copy and paste your,your discernment into spirit
guides, your higher selfchanneling, akashic records,
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galactic readings, because howyou know something to be true in
mediumship will show up theexact same way in the other
readings.
It may not necessarily feelexactly the same, it might not
look exactly the same working inthese different modalities, but
again, that core communicationfoundation, those components are
consistent across themodalities and you can trust
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them like one at a time, asyou're working in these other
modalities, by validating themessages, because sometimes they
come with evidence, even thoughit's Akashic Records and Higher
Self, and sometimes they comewith that feeling of just
knowing and that will resonatefor you and you'll be able to
learn discernment through thatspace again in your body, space
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again in your body.
And so I guess, to bring it homeand to answer your question,
sarah, I'm being reminded ofSchitt's Creek.
God, I hope they bring thatquote to me in a second.
The label doesn't matter.
Someone is saying it out loud.
I'm sorry I can't channel youright now.
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Um, but it's like the.
It's the wine quote fromSchitt's Creek.
Like it's I, I just like wine.
The label doesn't really matterto me, right, like that's it.
Realistically, it only mattersif the I'm just like reeling
back for a second, becauserealistically, no, the label
doesn't matter at all, butrealistically, if you have a
sitter, it it does matter alittle bit if it helps the
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message be received by thesitter, because our egos are
always going to get in the waythey.
We're human.
I wish we could throw that outthe window, but but it does.
But we can't.
So if it helps the sitter toresonate, that's kind of
essentially how I pick whatmodality I go in at this point.
By whatever, however, themessage will be best received by
the sitter.
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There you go, and then to answeryour other question, sarah, as
you grow in your abilities andmodalities, your discernment
grows with it.
And I'm going to end this withan Albert Einstein quote,
because I'm so lame God, I'msuch a nerd Because he said the
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more I learn, the more I realizehow much I don't know.
And I can tell you as Icontinue to evolve in this
metaphysical space, as now I'mgoing galactic and I'm learning
other modalities.
Honest to God, the more I learn, the more I realize I don't
know.
And so your discernment to meis almost like inverse to what
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you learn.
The more you learn, the lessdiscernment you have, because
you're just open to all of it.
You're like well, what's next?
What modality do I not knowabout?
Now, Give me more, I want tolearn more.
So there you go that hopefullythis was super interesting and
super helpful Philosophical alittle bit today.
I loved that so much andhopefully you're calling on your
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And I just want to thank youfor being here so much.
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So, from my soul to yours, Ihope you have a wonderful day.
Take care.
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