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April 14, 2025 18 mins

In today's episode, Nicole explores an intriguing energetic phenomenon where spirits arrive together as a unified ball and refuse to separate during readings, challenging conventional mediumship training that insists only one spirit communicates at a time.

• Throughout career, consistently experienced multiple spirits arriving simultaneously
• Traditional technique involves separating spirits and placing them on different sides
• Recently encountering spirits (often couples) who resist separation and remain merged
• Creates challenges in identifying which spirit is providing specific evidence
• Personal reflection on how long-term couples might naturally blend energies after death
• Questions whether reading merged spirits together is ethical or demonstrates good mediumship
• Frustrated by the inconsistency of spirit communication—sometimes crystal clear, sometimes like "energetic charades"

If you're experiencing similar mediumship challenges, reach out and share your experiences—I'd love to analyze, dissect, and perhaps offer wisdom or at least commiserate with you.


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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to empower your soul.
There is something that hasbeen happening energetically
with me in my readings latelyand I wanted to talk about it
because it's so interesting.
And actually I just I got avoice memo from another medium
today who said the same thing ishappening to her, the same

(00:21):
thing, and so let's try todeconstruct this.
I don't know about this, butI'm hoping this episode produces
a fuck you moment for me sothat I can understand it.
But here's essentially what ishappening in my readings is that
souls are coming in together.
And when I say together,normally when my client tells me

(00:43):
that hey, like aren't, aren'tBob Barb and Aunt Jo, cool, no
problem, I can tend to separatethem and read them separately.
And this is a, this is like ame problem, because I know I
can't necessarily like there'ssomething about the energy of
spirit where they show I haveconsistently gotten more than

(01:05):
one spirits.
My entire fucking developmentand like this is wild for me
because I had so many teachersnot just one many teachers who
told me only one spirit willshow up, only one spirit will
show up.
If more than one shows up,you're wrong, it's only one
spirit and I can.
I can say, without a doubt,that I have gotten two spirits

(01:27):
pretty much my entire mediumshippractice career.
And when I say that, like waybefore, like I was in my
beginner's class getting twopeople, that would be together
right.
And most of the time when I getmultiple spirits they're balled
up together and I know I get it.
There's a lot of the otherteachers and, honestly, mediums

(01:53):
I really love and look up to.
A lot of them would say that'snot true, you only have one.
And I can say without a fuckingdoubt no, I don't.
I can say it because when Ipull them apart and I see the
energy and like this evenhappens on TikTok lives, when I,
when I can't, when I'm gettingdown to two people or like two

(02:14):
people in the comments that arelike and I'm like you know what
fuck this?
I'll just read both of you andthen and then they feel them
separate and they become twodifferent fucking spirits.
So I know, without a doubt,that these spirits come in like
one and this has happened overand over again.

(02:35):
So what does it look like whenI have multiple spirits come in
and there's so many amazingclasses out there that are like
this is how you deal with it.
I haven't found a singlefucking class that can figure
out my problem at all.
I can't.
So apparently I'm supposed toteach it somehow or another.
But I have multiple spirits andthe best way I can describe it
is they come in like a ball.

(02:56):
Okay, visually, sometimes I seewhen spirits come in.
They tend to come in and I cankind of usually see them not
always or they might have anenergy and there might be a
clear cognizance, and I'll juststart talking.
So I don't always see them, anda lot of times spirits will
come in the way that they lookin the spirit world, which is

(03:16):
like this energetic ball oflight Okay, I'm working with a
ball of light, everybody.
So when these spirits come inand there's only one ball of
light, everybody.
So when these spirits come inand there's only one ball of
light.
But the information can't beplaced to one person, my client
will inevitably say it soundslike my two aunts, and at that
point I will tend to pull themapart and read the spirit

(03:38):
separately.
And what happens when I pullthem apart?
I put one on each shoulder, oneon each side of me, and then I
can feel what direction thespirits coming from and that's,
that's hunky dory, that's fineand dandy.
And then I'm able to reallykind of I'm going to say like
read them one at a time, so Iend up like pulling them apart,
and then I'll read on Joe andthen I'll read on Barb.

(03:59):
You know, I'll politely ask whowants to go first.
Sometimes they still fight, buteither way I'll kind of read
them one at a time and give theevidence and the message from
each of them.
Occasionally they'll startyelling at each other, talking
to me at the same time, so I'lljump in back and forth between
the two.
It's usually a hilarious antics, especially if you're doing
this, live in a demonstration,and it's generally a good time.
So I can see why spirit wantsto send me multiple spirits at a

(04:20):
time.
It's entertaining.
It's great to see your medium,fucking, failing, flailing,
foradian slip right there.
Not really, um, but I, but yousee, like for me, I'm like I'm
failing, right there's, there'smy spirit mic drop right there.
That's the fuck you moment.
Um, I feel like I'm failing andflailing and they're having a

(04:40):
grand old time.
They're like well, look at her,how I could?
And like I, I don't know, myasshole self says like they
can't do it.
So why am I judging me?
But you know, this is, theseare the, this is my verbiage,
these, these are theconversations I have in my own
head and I don't know why, but Ifeel like really just rubbing
my eyebrows today.
Welcome to my weird worldeverybody.

(05:01):
So there is.
When I pull them apart, it tendsto go fine, right Again.
There might be some fun antics,scenarios jumping back and
forth between the two, butgenerally I'm very successful
once I'm able to pull them apart.
What has been interesting as oflate is that they won't pull

(05:25):
apart, and I don't know what thefuck to do about this, because
I will have.
For example, I will pull in amom and dad and then what will
like?
Just if someone has experiencesand knows what the fuck is
happening, that would be great.
But I'll pull in mom and dad.
They'll come in together, andhow I know they come in together

(05:47):
is that I'll say things andshe's like well, that's really
mom and that's really dad,because I'll get lung cancer,
I'll get smoker and dad died oflung cancer and mom was the
smoker, right.
So it's things that are veryblack and white.
I can't fuck this up, um, soI'll try to separate them and
I'll seemingly separate them andthen they look like fucking
jelly taffy, whatever stickything that ends up back together

(06:11):
.
My kids have a lot of slime andstuff like that, but they'll
end up scooping back togetherafter I pulled them apart and
I'm like what the fuck are youdoing?
Stay separate.
And they were like no.
And I'm just like at that pointI should kick them out.
I don't, I'm not a big fan ofkicking out spirits, but at that
point I should have been likeget lost, I'm not playing this
fucking game, do it my way ordon't.
But there's some reason.

(06:31):
And and my girl raelle, youhaven't met her yet.
She's amazing.
She's gonna be on this thingeventually.
Um, she's amazing.
And and when I talked to herabout this, she's like why don't
?
Maybe you're supposed to readthem together?
And I'm like fucking goes inthe face of everything.
That is not mediumship.
I get it real.
I love your perspective becauseshe just god, I love her so

(06:53):
much because the you think Ihave trust in spirit.
Hers is 10 times more than me.
She trusts everything.
I aspire to the level of rail,let's be honest here.
But she's just like maybeyou're supposed to read them
together and I'm like I don'twant to.
So I've experimented with that.
But there are still a lot ofsouls, a lot of spirits that

(07:13):
will come through gelatinoustogether.
It's like twin snakes.
You can't fucking separate them.
They go better together.
No accident, my son ate all mytwin snakes today and I can't
separate them for the life of me.
And so I've gotten to the pointwhere I'm just like, okay, I'm
just gonna say it then and we'lljust, you have to place it,
whether it's mom or dad, and I'mcan't do that for you, you're

(07:35):
gonna have to do that.
So and I've only done this onone or two readings and I've
caveat this shit out of it and Idon't spend a lot of time there
because I don't feel likethat's what the client wants.
I don't feel like it's ademonstration of good mediumship
, I don't think it's quality.
I like I question whether it'sethical, like, am I reading
spirit?
Absolutely, but but if I can'tplace who is giving the evidence

(07:58):
and the messages, I don't likethat.
It makes me feel uncomfortableas a medium.
I don't feel like I'm doing myjob well and, as I say that, I'm
like I really want to givespirit the stink eye there,
because now they know myperspective or where I'm coming
from and I understand it'sprobably easier.
And maybe there's dynamics thatare going in the spirit world
that I don't fucking understand.

(08:18):
Maybe, you know, maybe mom'sreincarnated and if she comes in
alone, of like and I don'tbelieve any of this stuff, but
I'm just going to toss it outthere Maybe she's reincarnated
and she doesn't have all herenergy, so dad wants to come and
supplement it.
I have no fucking idea, buteither way they're coming in
together and they're refusing toget separated.
So what ends up happening isthis mishmash of fucking
evidence one for mom, one fordad, one for dad, one for mom

(08:40):
and like I can't figure outwho's who in my, my client has
to figure it out.
It's so fucking frustrating.
So it's happened twice now, um,one on a very important
connection, one on a not greatlike on a not great connection
or not.
I'm, I'm, I'm not a superimportant it was.

(09:00):
It was like.
It was like when I started,like two aunts or two uncles,
that.
So it wasn't necessarily themain contact of the reading, but
at the same time I don't knowhow or why they're doing that
and it's driving me crazy and Ithink I need to really like sit
with that and I was hoping, asI'm talking through this, that

(09:21):
they were going to give me alittle download.
I did hear them say they'resorry and they wouldn't do it
again.
So I hope this is the end of it.
I'll keep you posted, butthere's just.
I'm okay with them coming inand wanting to be read at the
same time, and maybe that's thecompromise I need to get to,
because if you so let's just sayI'm just going to put it out

(09:42):
there.
If I died and my husband diedand, like my daughter went to go
get a mediumship reading, wewould come in together.
Like my husband and I have beendating since I was 15.
Yeah, I was a baby.
Everybody, I was a baby.
He's my ride or die.
I met him.
I knew if he was a.

(10:04):
It's been him all along, right,I don't really have a life
before him, you know, for themost part because I started
dating him at 15.
So I mean, I've spent 35 yearswith this guy so far, right,
I've been married to him for, ohmy god, almost 20 years.
I think we're going on 17 yearsthis year.
Wouldn't look at me, becausegenetics did me well with.

(10:25):
With the crow's feet, nowrinkles.
But man, do I have bunions,everybody.
But.
But like, if someone, if, if my, my daughter went for a reading
, yeah, you couldn't fuckingseparate me from my husband.
We're the same fucking person,right?
Like the only difference, youmight say, because let's go
through the similarities, shallwe Like, yeah, my husband's

(10:46):
taller, he's got dark hair andhazel eyes.
I have blue right, but like weboth love, we both love Hondas,
right?
Like we both wear camo.
I wear leopard, I like leopardprint, my husband not a fan,
right, but we both wear camo,right.
Like we both like to exercise,we both like to golf.
Like we have a lot of thesimilar, like we fucking grew up

(11:07):
together.
So we have a lot of the similarthings that we've just learned
to do together and celebrate andenjoy together.
So I could completelyunderstand.
So spirit's literally puttingme in my the spirit shoes right
now.
Spirit's literally putting mein the spirit shoes right now.
So a spirit could complete.
Like I can completely understandhow difficult it would be to
discern is it me or is myhusband?

(11:30):
Besides, just like I'm a femalethat's a little shorter, right,
and we have different,obviously, family lineages and
like he's.
He's of different descent thanI am, from Europe and other
places, right, but otherwise Ithink, like, in terms of most of

(11:52):
the things, very similar.
So I guess maybe that's the MOof this is that some people that
have been together for a for alifetime.
But here's the thing, we'revery different personalities,
right, like I'm kind of anasshole, he's he's an asshole,
but he's quiet.
Sorry, I love him.
He's my ride or die, but butrealistically, you know he's he.

(12:16):
We have a lot of the samestrong opinions on things.
I'm much more likely to run mymouth about it and he's much
more likely to keep his mouthshut and do what he wants anyway
, right, so there's so manyparallels in terms of like our
personalities, but like one isit's funny because I'm the Libra
and he's a Leo, so like we'reboth supposed to be outgoing
people and he is in rightcircumstances and I'm in the

(12:39):
right circumstances and it'slike flip flop there.
So it's just, it's justinteresting because there would
be way more similarities thanthere would be differences.
But I could completelyunderstand if they say my
husband bought a leather couchand I'm like no, I bought the
leather couch, right, like, andall they're seeing is a leather

(12:59):
couch.
But we bought it, but I boughtit, but he's you know.
So it was just it's weird.
It's just weird.
Where am I going to go with this?
Hang on a second, let me seewhere spirit wants me to go.
Just give up.
I will give up then, um so?

(13:21):
So I'm going to put myspiritual team on notice.
Can we not do that if peoplewant to be read?
And what's so interesting isthat for some readings I will
fucking see the spirits.
I'll be like aunt, grandmother,brother, sister, like I will
see them, like they're standingin my room and there's four of

(13:41):
them.
Can we do more of that, becausethat would be great?
So those readings are so easy,but everything seems to be much
more spirit, spirit based, a lotmore of the stupid meme that's
going on the internet with likethe sounding of like the kids
with the microphone where it'slike I mean, that's what it's

(14:01):
like working with spirit.
It's energetic charades.
You never know what you'regoing to get, and some days it's
really fucking clear, and othertimes they come in as a ball
and I can't separate them andthey don't want to be separated.
So I have to, like read themtogether and it's complete
horseshit.
So this is welcome to mediumship, everybody.
Welcome to fucking mediumship.
If you have something you'regoing through mediumistically,
something new, give me a shoutout.

(14:23):
I'd love to analyze and dissectit for you and hopefully maybe
give you words of wisdom or, ifnot, fucking commiserate with
you.
That's all I have for today.
Take care, everybody.
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