May 5, 2025 • 53 mins
The Weathervane Witches come together for a candid conversation about mental health challenges during times of intense energetic shifts, sharing their personal struggles and coping mechanisms in this vulnerable episode.
• Feeling "stuck in thick mud" from collective energy and experiencing anxiety, panic, and sleep disturbances
• Working with guides during difficult times and the importance of trusting the process even when connections feel inconsistent
• How physical bodywork moves stuck energy through the body's elements (air/head, water/emotions, fire/anger, earth/grounding)
• Finding anchors through consistent practices like meditation, tapping, Kundalini, and physical movement
• The concept of feeling "untethered" and needing to recalibrate during times of uncertainty
• Approaching challenges with curiosity instead of judgment
• Recognizing that spiritual practices aren't about fixing ourselves but coming home to ourselves
The Weathervane Witches come together for a candid conversation about mental health challenges during times of intense energetic shifts, sharing their personal struggles and coping mechanisms in this vulnerable episode.
• Feeling "stuck in thick mud" from collective energy and experiencing anxiety, panic, and sleep disturbances
• Working with guides during difficult times and the importance of trusting the process even when connections feel inconsistent
• How physical bodywork moves stuck energy through the body's elements (air/head, water/emotions, fire/anger, earth/grounding)
• Finding anchors through consistent practices like meditation, tapping, Kundalini, and physical movement
• The concept of feeling "untethered" and needing to recalibrate during times of uncertainty
• Approaching challenges with curiosity instead of judgment
• Recognizing that spiritual practices aren't about fixing ourselves but coming home to ourselves
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
all right, and we are back here with the second
edition of the weathervanewitches, so happy to be as be
reconvened as this coven andtalking today about mental
health, because I think we areall going through the ringer
energetically with all of thisastrology stuff that goes on.
I am not the astrologyspecialist in the group, do not
(00:26):
defer to me about this, butthere's a lot of things
politically, economically,energetically going on right now
and I thought this would be areally great episode because we
have all been bouncing back andforth for the last month, I
would say, on mental health,personal struggles, and what has
been so interesting about allof us over this past month
(00:47):
excuse me, put my teeth back inthis past month is that we have
gone through and so unexpectedlyfound different ways for us to
either understand disconnects inour energy and also how to
address those differently, giventhe different modalities we
have.
So that is what we are going totalk about here together as a
(01:09):
group today.
Just a reminder hi, I'm Nicole.
I'll let everybody introducethemselves with their own voices
so we know who is who.
If you're just listening tothis and not watching it on
video, I want to reach out.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Oh, that's me, Me next, sir.
Like well, who goes next?
I don't know.
Hi, I'm Adriana, human designexpert and speaker.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Hi, I'm Rachel, psychic medium, ancestral healer
.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Hi, I'm Jess, a body worker, yoga worker.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I'm the body witch, the body witch, the general guru
over here and again Nicole Pope, akashic and shamanic
evidential medium here.
So I'll start, I will I willcrucify my for myself first, in
terms of my mental health overthis past month, because it has
been such a struggleenergetically and there have
(01:58):
been so many ups and downsenergetically over the past
month and as we record this,it's April 7th.
Um, those, those astrologypeople.
Keep me honest, I think.
Are we still in Venusretrograde?
Are we done?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
with that yet Until the end of the week.
Yeah, this is what's happeningto my face right now, why I keep
crying.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Okay, and then Mercury retrograde.
That ends today.
Yeah, okay, and obviously Idon't follow a lot of this stuff
, but I will tell you thatenergetically with myself I feel
more of the collective energyand I get really stuck in this
thick mud from a collectiveenergy standpoint.
So this entire month for me hasbeen rethinking and rethinking
(02:38):
and panic mode and anxiety modeand not going to bed probably
until midnight every singlenight and waking up till 6 AM
every single night.
And so for me personally, Ideal with a lot of this stuff by
pure avoidance.
It's my, it's my way, right,because if I think about things
(02:58):
I will overthink and I will getinto this mental cycle.
So for me, energetically, overthe past month it has been just
so much coming at me from somany different directions and,
by the way, my kids have beensick for probably about two
months straight at this point.
So I am literally at this pointand we are up here in eternal
winter, up here in new England.
I am literally at this pointwhere I am done.
(03:19):
I I am so far beyond the pointof being overstimulated and
burnt out.
I am literally in this nowregression mode where I am
ferment mode, and that has beenshown to me because I rely so
much on spirit.
That has been shown to mepersonally through spirit and
the fact that I don't have anybookings this week, and this is
(03:43):
what spirit does to me, becausethis is how they will show me
something's off and I will sitback and just let spirit guide
me.
And this week they're showing.
They literally took things offmy calendar so that I can
personally reset, and I lovethat about spirits.
I'm going to pause to see ifthere's any reactions from the
group so far, cause I see Rachelvigorously writing notes.
Yes, I have questions.
(04:09):
What shirt are you wearing?
Oh, I'm saying we're save.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Ferris.
Okay, so all I could see was asave and I was like how funny it
is that like you're, you'relike you know, I'm really
relying on spirits like guide me, and it's like save.
I'm just like what the bottomof that is.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Me, can you save me?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
right now Help, so no , I just, I so agree about like
being guided during this time?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, so how is everybody else feeling right now
in terms of energetically thispast month or so?
Caked in the teeth.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, it's not great.
I've cried at least five timessince just last night Like
bawling, crying in the teeth.
Yes, Not great.
I've cried at least five timessince just last night like
bawling, crying in the tub.
Yeah, so it's not great.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
You're kind of runs in cancer, right.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, yeah, I feel like.
Yep, yeah, I got in the tub,jess.
What about you?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Yeah, ups and downs.
I feel like it's like even andthen drop and then back to even
and then drop, but there's no,like I'm like really pushing for
that joy, you know, and likethose kind of like higher States
, and I'm just like, oh, we'reback at even, okay.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, I resonate with that too.
That's what it feels like.
Yep, like spa day last week wasgood, not great.
And then I met with Nicole andshe delivered some messages that
were really good and I thoughtI was like I was like, okay, I'm
moving out of this.
The next day was good, and thenit was like back down again.
What is this?
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I agree with that about, especially about, like
the pushing for joy, likebecause I do, like I've been
around the block long enough andlike because what I'm going
through is so specific to likemy line of work.
It is I've it's quite anout-of-body experience and I
feel like I'm getting humbled inways I wasn't anticipating.
Um, that's what it is, yes, I'mjust, I'm getting leveled.
(05:56):
Is what it feels likedemolished?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I didn't even think about that, though, because you
were getting kicked in the teethwith your line of work.
Yeah, I'm getting were gettingkicked in the teeth with your
line of work.
Yeah, I'm getting in the kickedin the teeth with my line of
work.
Adriana, you too, yep, do youdo you mind?
And Jess, I would love to hearyour perspective too.
Is that coming, coming at youas well?
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Yeah, I think I think collectively, um, and anyone
that I'm like coming into, likecommunity with everyone, is
feeling untethered.
Basically, I think, and I thinkit's like you know, it's like
physically, emotionally,energetically, and I think it's
(06:40):
really like like our innerdirection is sort of feeling
like out of sync and it's reallyan invitation to recalibrate,
right, like with everythingthat's going on, these big
shifts like in astrology, andlike politics, our economy, like
so many things, feel uncertain,that it's like, oh, this plan,
this path that I had for my life, like maybe it's not going to
(07:02):
look like that anymore and likeI, we don't like change as human
beings, right, but like if wejust pause and trust and like
sit with spirit and like do ourthings, like our, our individual
things and things that we docollectively that help us to
like reconnect with source, it'sjust like oh, like maybe we're
moving in a radically differentdirection.
(07:24):
But I think it's, if you reframeit like that, it can be like
actually pretty, pretty exciting, right, like it's just
unfamiliar, and unfamiliar isscary, and it's like depressing
and upsetting when things aren'tgoing like we were thinking
they were going to like with our, you know, january 1st, like
(07:44):
what's our plan for the year.
Like oh, fuck, like not anymore.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I just feel like you're so much more versed in
that, just just because, likebecause you are in that space
where you, you, you see physicaltransformations of people,
right, so I think there's justsomething that's so amazing in
in your line of work.
But I think I mean I love whatyou said people feel untethered
and they need to recalibrate.
I think that's the perfect wayto describe this.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Yeah, I think it's a clear invitation for us to just
come back to what anchors usright and, like a lot of us,
like in our group chat and likethings that you mentioned at the
start of this recording, it'slike the physical body is like a
compass that's going to guideus where, where we're meant to
be next, like these symptoms oflike insomnia or like you know
(08:35):
we've been talking about gettinglike intense, like drives, like
do, do, do, do, do, right, likegetting a lot of things done at
once and then feelingcompletely drained, kind of like
this polarity at play.
I think like the energy justfeels like really dramatic right
now.
Right, like the pendulum islike just swinging so far in
(08:55):
either direction.
Cause it's the same thing forme.
I either feel like I'm in likenervous system flight mode, like
I'm going to get oh my God, Igot like 50 things done.
I feel great, what's next?
I'm on it to like crash andburn, like like that's how I was
feeling this morning.
I was just like holy shit, likeI you know, I had like a
vacation, like a week off torest, didn't really do that much
(09:16):
, and then came right back andI'm like I haven't had a day off
since and I'm like you know, Ihad like yoga teacher training
this weekend holding space forpeople, lots of things going on.
Even the students in yogateacher training are like every
single one of them has reachedout to me and they have some
major life shift happening andit's just influencing how we all
show up.
(09:36):
It's hard to hold space foreach other when we have like
this baggage.
It's like it's like physicallyyou can feel it like physically
pulling you backwards and all ofthis stuff.
Like when we come intocollective right, because like
we work on ourselvesindividually, like what I do
with like my sauna practice inthe morning, and then we come
together and then we're allmirrors for each other and like
(09:58):
all of this stuff that comes up,it's like an opportunity for us
to forgive something inourselves and like our
unconscious guilt, right.
So it's just like we have thisawesome opportunity, with
everything that's going on thatfeels so hard and so heavy, to
like take it to the next level,right.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Then never be here again.
Yeah, exactly, I love that, Ilove that.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Pulling, pulling, pulling, pulling, so you can
like really catapult likeslingshot, way farther than
you've ever gone before usingthe energy of the, using the
physical act of transmutation astransportation, yes, I like
that that just got me, yeah, andit's like an opportunity, too,
(10:43):
to like lean into your guides,right, like that's.
that's like what I've beenreally exploring, the like since
venus retrograde, which, likewhat the fuck guys honestly like
it's just been so everythingit's chaotic, everything's
unpredictable, but like what ispredictable.
It's like the rituals androutines that we put into our
life, the things that we knowhelp anchor us, help ground us,
(11:05):
like help keep us remind us that, like, whatever's happening
around us is just the dream,right, right, like remind us
that we are connected to spirit,like that's our true self, like
stepping into our highest self,right, but then all this other
shit happens and then we're justlike, oh yeah, I'm like in this
body and like things feel soheavy and like money and love
(11:26):
and like unpredictability, allof this stress comes up, but
like, okay, like what am I?
doing every day to remind myselfthat that's not real.
You know, like not to say that,like we don't still have to go
through that, but likemaintaining that kind of like
higher consciousness, right,like higher elevation, and
actually said oh sorry, go ahead, keep going, I'm done, I'm not
(11:49):
gonna make no, I don't haveanything to say today.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
No, you said something that I think makes
sense to us, but for those whoare listening, I think it'd be
so great if we all explored it,for them to learn, how you said,
lean into our guides, and so alot of the people listening are
like, desire that kind ofconnection, but don't know how.
So what's something that youwould say?
And if you guys want to likeround robin this or whatever,
(12:14):
what's something you would say,jess, where they could learn
that?
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Yeah, I actually I would love to share first on
this, because I think that I'mkind of like the least versed in
this and actually you all havehelped, you constantly remind me
about, like checking in withguys and stuff, and so, as our
friendship like early stages ofour friendship developing, I was
like I don't know who my guidesare, cause like even our first
(12:39):
meeting, I remember you guys isit Gabriel, arcadial, gabriel?
Yeah, you guys had thatconnection and I was like how do
they know that?
And so then I like you know,stop being shy and ask about it,
like, how do you find out whoyour guides are?
Um, and then I just startedlike putting it out there, like
after my meditation, when I findmyself in like my clearest or
(13:00):
like most open, spacious kind oflike head space or heart space,
maybe, um, really like openingmy heart to that and, um, I
don't, you know, I could talkabout this for a long time, I
won't but, um, something that uh, like obviously Jesus is one of
my guides and that's like arelationship and understanding,
(13:23):
a concept that I have reallylike dived, dove into um since
like the start of the year andthat that is that's an anchor
for me now to know that like oh,jesus is my guide, like we're
cool now, because like we weregreat.
And then I was like no, I neverwant to talk about jesus.
And now I'm like okay, likewe're in a healthy space, so
(13:46):
like.
And then asking and using cardsand other things to say like
okay, okay, like guides, likereveal yourselves to me.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Maybe the easiest way I tell people to um, your
guides are typically, I'm goingto say, angels, archangels,
ascended masters and or anyother deity, right?
So, like, I'm talking a lot inthe Christian context, but it
really is any sort of deity thatyou resonate with.
(14:16):
If, if you already have thisconnection with the deity and
you don't know why, you morethan likely are not there.
Your guide, right?
And?
And so if you're truly not sure, I would recommend you just go
out and Google who are angels,who are guides, who are gods,
goddesses, and, honestly, youare going to know you're going
to get to this one and you'regoing to stop your heart's going
(14:37):
to start beating and you'rejust going to know I work with
them, they're my guide andyou're going to have no logical
reason to know that whatsoever.
But those are kind of the bigguns, right, and I think there's
a really cool way to do thatfor your immediate guide and
when I say immediate guide, Imean your guardian angel,
(15:01):
whatever, whatever you want tocall the guy that's kind of with
you from your first breath tillyour last breath.
I cannot get words out today.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Put the teeth back in your mouth.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I know Maybe I'm not supposed to talk this much, I'm
supposed to sit back and listento this one, but I would
recommend you get some cards outand just say pull some tarot
cards, pull some Oracle cards.
What's your personality, whoare you, what are you like, what
are you like, how do you workwith me, that kind of thing.
So there's, there's so manydifferent ways you can figure
out who your, your guides, are,as well as what is you know,
(15:28):
what's your relationship withthem, what's their personality.
And there's just you have totrust your instinct and trust
what you get, so that you canreally just get to know them a
little bit more.
And, rachel, I'm sure you havesome other ways that you connect
with your guides.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Yeah, like first starting this was hard but just
because, like you know, likereligious trauma and then like
trauma around trusting self,like a lot of I feel like it's
like just connection with spiritis like when you said body,
which just I was like that'sfucking perfect, because that's
how I feel, like a lot of ourintuition is tied into our
physical sense, and like ourclairsentience and how that's
(16:07):
such a thing for a lot of peopleand like how messages and
traumas can stay stored in ourbodies.
So, but for me, when I wasfirst starting, it was like
recognition of patterns in myown life.
So like if I was seeing a bunchof hawks, like okay, I would
take that, just because I alsohave ADD or undiagnosed ADHD,
and I take what's prevalent inmy life, like what theme is
(16:28):
really?
Like are they crows?
One time I saw two blue herons.
I'm shit, you're not.
It was right before we movedinto this house.
I saw two blue herons intersectover to overhead one going this
way, one going this way and Iwas like wow, I feel so safe in
this moment and like that washuge for me and that was about
four years into my journey oflike truly stepping into
authenticity.
So I was like that for me wasancestral and angel
(16:52):
interconnecting, because they'retwo different energies to me.
So I wrote down a lot um,anyways, yeah, patterns, I
recognize patterns and that'show I like to do it.
And then making room to receivethese bigger energies and not
being intimidated by thembecause that's what I think
turns a lot of people off islike, either whether it's
(17:13):
religious trauma or negativeprogramming around our personal
connection with spirit or God,like especially a patriarchal
Christian God that's not goingto resonate with a lot of people
and like that supports areligion that like for me, I
don't think religion andspirituality I know a lot of
people agree with this don't gohand.
They don't go hand in hand,right, and so yeah I don't even
(17:36):
think they belong in the sameconversation.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
I don't think religion should even exist.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Like when jesus said you follow no, I said this today
.
I was like when jesus saidfollow no other god but me, he
wasn't saying like follow noother god but me.
He was saying like follow what,what you feel inside.
Follow no other God but self.
You know, cause the kingdom ofheaven is within.
Like I feel like we've gone sofucking far left, you know, and
like some one of you mentioned,um, like being turned off by
(18:04):
Jesus, like when you were orwhatever, and I was like
literally I feel like I threwthe baby out with the bath water
and like and it's I, I a lot ofmy recognition with guides.
So I started with ancestral.
That was just easiest for mebecause I'm Irish and like that
was really drilled into me frommy elders, like in my real life
was that strength in the Irishcommunity.
So I worked with mygrandparents and the ones that I
(18:27):
knew were kind of open to whatI do, because I also, on my
mom's side, like there isrepulsion for what I do.
So it took me a long time.
So it was, I started with theancestral and then I worked over
to angel, like angelic realm,right when my daughter was born.
I got like okay with that kindof energy because I feel like
she just kids embrace, that,they embody that and like it's
(18:50):
given the shit out of me.
But that's because I learned tobe afraid of it.
It wasn't something I wasafraid of when I was her age, so
yeah, love that so much so Iwould say I was oh, go ahead, no
go ahead adriana
Speaker 2 (19:07):
I would say I was very much like jess when I was
first learning about this.
Like I, when I thought guides,I thought they were always
spirit that we had known at onepoint, or ancestral or something
I didn't know.
There was anything else.
And then, like two years ago, Iwas sitting in a woman's circle
at my friend Kim's place andshe owns a shop and they sell
(19:27):
Oracle cards there, and so wewere in the shop and I felt like
there was like this, I don'tknow something staring at me and
I look up and across the wayand on the shelf I finally have
it now was this Oracle deckstaring at me and it had Mary
Magdalene.
And I was like Kim, who is that?
I was like that's beautiful.
And then she said MaryMagdalene.
(19:48):
And I was like, oh well, that'snot for me and I like left that
there.
And I was like, oh well, that'snot for me and I like left that
there.
But then a few months later in aReiki session I was told Mary
Magdalene was holding my hand,jesus was holding her hand.
And then there was another,like really big.
She called it like God-like,odin-like, but it wasn't Odin
type of figure, like wrathfulbut protective and I still don't
(20:09):
know who that really is.
And I had to do a lot of faithreconstruction around that and
and being okay with like Maryand Jesus being a part of like
whatever this is next to meholding my hand, I was like, but
I don't like believe inreligion.
And now, thankfully, a whilelater, two years later, um, she
(20:29):
comes up all the fucking time.
Nicole's just's just like ohhey, mary's here wanting to talk
to you and now I feel like shejust gives me signs and I feel
like she embraces me a lot.
But it's taken some time to getthere and to trust that like I.
I knew it when I first saw thedeck of cards and I was just
like I don't know what thatfeeling is, so I left it alone.
But that's what nicole wastalking about.
How like you'll, you'll know,even if you don't know, you know
(20:51):
you both helped heal myrelationship with each of those
deities.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Like both Jess and Adriana, like Jesus, I was so
turned off to, and then Nicole'slike I mean, it's like Jeshua.
I was like a what, a what now?
And like, and like the samething with Mary Magdalene, like
her friend Kim that she'stalking about.
She's like I swear to Godembodies, it's some like being
in her vortex.
You, literally, it was justlike Mary Magdalene shows up and
(21:17):
she's like oh, I picked you.
And you're like why?
Okay, yeah, and for me, I waslike I will submit at your skirt
, crying in fear Please don'thurt me.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
I love it.
Yeah, and when I was practicing, when I I just loved it because
Adrian and I were chatting lastweek and I was like, hey, can I
practice?
Because I like to practiceevidential mediumship.
And then I tried to and sheimmediately walked in and I was
like, oh no, you, you, you'rehere, mary Magdalene, you're no,
I'm doing evidential.
And she's like no, you're not,you're gonna.
I really needed to heareverything she said that night.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
That's, that's why she's like no, you're not,
you're going to.
I really needed to heareverything she said that night.
That's.
That's why she's like thisbitch is breaking down.
Look, I'm still.
I'm crying again right now.
Oh Jesus.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
So bringing it back to kind of this mental health
topic, I love that you can workwith your guides and I think,
before maybe I ask a couple ofquestions, I want to point out
that working with guides iswonderful, but it's not going to
take away the pain and thejourney that we had to go
through, and I think that we areall in the freaking thick of it
(22:24):
right now because working withguides and doing this
metaphysical work, it is not acure-all, it is not a silver
bullet for resolving whateverpath we're on, but what it is is
this opportunity for us to growand become our best selves, and
our guides often show us theway through that, and I think
that's where all of us are rightnow.
(22:45):
So I don't know where we feellike going or where we feel like
talking about I mean personallyI can talk about with me.
Like talking about I meanpersonally I can talk about with
me my mediumship has been allover the fucking place.
Like one week my mediumship isepic, the next week it's total
shit.
And then, like the Akashicrecords is really good and I
know there's a lot of.
For me personally, there's a lotof energetic stuff that kind of
(23:07):
goes up and down, especiallywith this collective, because
the collective is so unsettledand we are humans here in this,
this physical world.
So, depending on where thecollective is so unsettled and
we are humans here in this, thisphysical world, so depending on
where the energy is at reallyimpacts the quality of my
readings, which has been really,really not consistent lately,
and so this week or last weekthey've literally pulled out the
rug from under me and everyeverything that typically comes
(23:29):
easy for me has been so hard andor coming in completely
different in every way that theyhave been before.
So I'm literally right nowbringing it back to the basics
and I think, jess, you explainedit best.
It's like reconstructing theway that I do.
My mediumship so hopefully it'senergetic proof is the only way
(23:51):
I can kind of think this.
So, for me, when times getreally hard, I personally
obviously connect with all ofyou and make sure I'm not
fucking crazy, right, but then Ialso bring it back down to the
structural components and likerebuild things.
So I'm always like, if thingsare going haywire, let me bring
it down to making sure I'mgetting trying to get enough
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sleep, make sure I'm eating well, drinking enough water, taking
care of myself and just doingthe basics and kind of adding
stuff back on top.
So I like to strip things awaythat don't resonate or make
sense with me anymore.
So that's kind of how I'mapproaching this current climate
.
I don't know if anyone elsewants to kind of talk about
what's going on and how they'reapproaching it of talk about
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what's going on and how they'reapproaching it.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
I definitely can.
So I agree, like work has been.
I'm also.
I'm a medium as well, so, well,psychic media, I don't know.
I do readings as well, and likework has been no, like
non-existent since I launched mysite.
Like not a single crickets I'vegotten support, which is
amazing.
But like crickets, but alsolike personally, I'm going
through like my mom is inhospice right now and she's at
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the end of her life and like itwas a really challenging weekend
and spending time with herSaturday I was like, oh, this is
why, okay, and I looked back atlike the last few months and
like how I'd really spent priorto knowing she was going on
hospice.
I really started thisinvestigation Like I got wicked,
fucking sick and like I startedthis investigation on like
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metaphysical healing andphysical healing.
So using mullein for both mylung health but also mullein is
good for healing energeticwounds, healing the mother wound
, healing ancestrally and it'swonderful, it was an herb for
the Celtic, so I was like thisis all in one and they've also
been leading more into plantmedicine, both through cacao and
other forms of plant medicine,and then physical healing.
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So making sure I move my bodyevery single fucking day, making
sure I stretch, and when I'mstretching I'm doing it in
complete silence, so I'm able tomake sense of the shit, of like
the energetic, like fuck up inmy body right now, cause it
feels like everything is likejam, fucking packed, and I know
it's.
It feels so similar to laborand like my labor.
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I didn't do any of that, Iliterally just like labored on
my back the way they told me Ishould, and I was like I feel
like I should get up and move,and they were like you should
stay, cause I was like I was notokay.
So, but now I have thatopportunity.
So I I've been really leaning on, like talking to myself as if I
was a client, because this isthe, the, the level of energetic
purge I'm going through rightnow.
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I can see the connection andI'm like this is the high level
stuff I have been wanting andneeding to manifest and I'm
going through it now so that Ican help myself and even just my
descendants, like I'm going todie one day and like my kid's
going to have to deal with that,and now I can tell her, like
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when this wound appears, this ishow I would.
This is how I would challengeit.
This is how I would sit with it.
This is what I would do whenthis, you know, ache is
happening in your physical life.
This is how it's going to showup in the metaphysical Um.
So that's how I've been.
It's like looking at through,looking at my pain, through
curiosity, instead of justletting the pain consume my life
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so good it's so good.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
And you're the first one where we get.
We're like, oh man, I'm feelingthis.
And you're like, well, thatthat's the um.
That's that means this in thespirituality world.
I'm like, oh my god, I nevereven thought about this so much
so that I, like bought a medicalintuition book so that I can
try to keep up with you.
Yeah, love it, it's amazing.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
And I love how you said that you're stretching in
like complete silence so thatyou can kind of like feel the
shit that's going on in yourbody.
I think like that's definitelysomething that I do.
It's like you know, you moveinto a hold, a stretch or
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something, or like move intosome physical movement and then
like actually tune in to like,okay, what sensation do I feel
in my physical body?
Like that's a very grounding,like anchoring kind of practice.
But then also okay, now I'veI've named that I feel it what
else comes up?
Like what comes up spirituallyor emotionally?
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Right, because, like, we holdthat stuff in our physical body,
in like our fascial system.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
So and like, yeah, and like we're all energetic
workers, right?
So not only do we, are we allconfronted with stuff on the
daily basis and our ownexistence, but like we all have
clients that are people too, andwe have kids that are people
too, and we have kids that arepeople too, and we hold space
for all of these messages andguides and sometimes I feel like
when the collective isungrounded, this is when it's
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the hardest.
But I also, like we're about tostart 75 day hard.
I'm so excited and like I foundmyself being really challenged
and being like, with everythinggoing on, I need to like drop it
down.
And I was like, no, witheverything going on, this is
what I need to do.
I need to prime my body like itis.
I need to treat my body withthe utmost care and that's what
I'm going to do, and there'snothing to be.
I was like afraid of it andthere's nothing I should be
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afraid of.
Um, I'm just afraid of hardthings, but you know, it's also
good to challenge that.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Yeah, I think it's.
I think it's really importantto acknowledge that Like, yeah,
it's normal to be afraid of hardthings, it's normal to dislike
discomfort, right, Like we'retalking about.
Like you know, I'm over heresaying like well, just lean into
your guides and like doanchoring activities, but like
it doesn't always feel great,it's just like okay, like we
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just keep it up consistently andwe know that.
Yeah Well you know, everythinghas like a birth, life, death,
rebirth, right, like everythingcomes in cycles, so it's just
like okay, like lean into it,like what can I learn from this?
Speaker 3 (29:51):
I was like amazing what Hearing both you guys when
you guys did the rock is reallywhat changed my level of how I
look at fitness and like justphysical discomfort I was like
look at what they did okay, yeah, it was inspiring that was
pretty badass.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Go us, jess, go you guys.
And Jessica is doing it again,so maybe we should drop her
donation link.
I'm volunteering this year, notdoing it, so we'll drop Jess's
donation link in the commentstoo.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Yeah, I can't believe I'm doing that.
The things that you know, thatyou know, work for you.
But I also want to circle backto another concept that you
introduced that really resonatedwith me, which is that the way
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that you've always done thingslike I touched on this a little
bit before too but like, maybe,like that's not, that's not how
spirits guiding you anymore.
Like you said, your readingsare different.
I'm finding the same thingBecause I work, you know, I
teach group classes and then Iwork one-on-one in terms of,
like, body work we'll call itlike as a massage therapist.
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Um, adriana, is it okay if Ishare something about a session
that we had?
Yeah, okay.
So, um, this was wild to mebecause I just like, when you
come from this place of like youknow either borderline or in
burnout, right, when you're justfeeling like, oh, like I don't
have that much to give again, Ithink it's another opportunity
(31:25):
to lean on spirit more and justremember that we're just a
vessel, right, like we don'thave to effort so much for
everything all the time.
We don't have to effort so muchfor everything all the time.
So, in session with Adrianalast week, she came in and I
just opened myself up to likewhatever's going to come through
, because typically I'm like,okay, like these people come in,
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clients come in and they'relike paying for service, and I'm
like, okay, I have to do a fullbody massage and then any other
little thing that I can get inthere that like feels like it's
coming from spirit, great.
But in this case, um, obviouslywe have quite a rapport, so it
was a little, a little bit itfelt safe for me to do this, but
I was just like pulling it off.
I was doing stuff.
I'm like, okay, here we go, yes, we're going to do that, like
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red light therapy and cuppingand energetic holds and then
crystal clearing.
So I told you guys, I haven'tdone, um, crystal clearing or
crystal placement in quite awhile.
Like probably years, issomething that I used to do
often, um, but, adrian, I didn'teven share this with you, um,
but when I was holding your headdoing Reiki on you, um, kind of
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toward the, I think it was atthe beginning of the session or
did it might've been halfway.
It was at the beginning of thesession or did it might've been
halfway?
It was either the start of thesession or as soon as you turned
onto your back, um, but I washolding your head and I felt a
um like infinity symbol, likebuzzing through your third eye,
and I was like, basically whatyou had been describing was that
you felt like very in your head, like leading up to that, and
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like kind of stuck there, likeyou couldn't pull energy down.
So I felt this spiral and I waslike, yep, it's stuck.
And so I I took like a justit's a large quartz crystal and
you basically like scanning itover your body and just like
it's like ironing out, likecoaxing that energy down toward
your feet and then, um,smoothing it out with with the
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crystal and then some othercrystals like placed on your
heart and your third eye.
So, um, yeah.
So my point is I like I said Ihaven't done that in years, but
like I'm like, oh, I used to dothis and like I used to feel
like very present with it.
So, um, that happened and I'mlike, well, this is how I do
body work now and so, likemoving forward, I'm just like,
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okay, well, this is part of itand like, the clients that are
meant for me will be with me,and those who are not, we'll
find someone else if they'relooking for something different.
But just like giving myselfthat freedom to like, okay, I'm
going to launch in thisdirection.
And then I'm like thinkingabout leaving Thai massage back
into my offerings.
But Thai massage with theselike very intimate, like
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breathing exercises andenergetic hold, so that's
something that I'm likeconceptualizing and wanting to
start offering, maybe thissummer when I have kind of time
to like work through it a littlebit.
So I wasn't expecting that atall.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
You just.
Okay, you're explaining so muchof what's happened since the
massage, remember?
Okay, so I walked out of themassage.
Wait, let me back up.
See, now my sacral is gettingexcited.
Okay, so I went in and you knowand anyone who's been listening
to me recently on social orwhatever knows that I've been
stuck in my head and I'm not.
I hadn't slept in two monthsand like, not my typical
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modalities weren't working.
My nervous system was in superflight and so I go to get this
massage with Jess, which I hadpreviously booked.
So, of course, the universejust provides right.
And when I came out of themassage, I was like, wow, I feel
so much more in my body, I feelso grounded, and now that
you're telling me that, thatmakes even more sense.
I was thinking it was justhaving the body work done in
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general was grounding, which I'msure it still is.
But now, over the past few days, you guys have seen like I'm
going to cry again.
I was just thinking, as you'resaying, that I was like I've
actually been not as in my head,like it's been a little bit
better, and then I was like, oh,but I've been crying
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incessantly and I think whathappened is.
We moved it down into my body,so now I can release whatever
this is.
That's wild here I'm going tocry again, so thank you.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
This is my public service announcement that crying
is an energetic release.
So this is really important Ifyou feel the need to cry, feel
the need to cry like, let it out, let it, let it energetically
flow out of you because, asspirit explains it to me, it is
the removal of stagnant energy.
So I honestly, adrienne, I'm sostoked for you.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Like let's just like it's true, you can be crying for
other people.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Do it up.
That's so true.
I mean, just look at thecollective energy of this.
Like me having a fucking darknight of the soul mental
breakdown has just opened up anew part of Jess and like I and
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I say things like that in prayerand in meditation where I'm
like, okay, if something I'mgoing through is going to help
people, I know it, but it's justso wild.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
when you actually see what it did for someone else
Like that blows my mind, makesme feel a little bit better.
I'm excited for Jess you tooffer that I.
I volunteer as tribute.
Like, please let me, I wouldlove to work on my ass is
booking.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
I worked this out.
I think too.
Think too, adriana, like.
So I did also, um.
So I'm trained in polaritytherapy and so I did.
Some like earth element holdson you as well, which is meant
to be grounding, but frombasically like when I'm hearing
you say, like the tears andeverything I'm thinking, okay,
we move from air element head,brain, um into your body, like
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getting into water element, likeyou're getting closer to being
like more earthbound, right?
Speaker 2 (37:02):
so what comes after water?
Fire and then earth?
Speaker 3 (37:05):
oh no, well, if I get real ragey, I'll let you, yeah
rage rachel knows what is itrachel, they can do the
directions northeast, southwest,air fire water okay air, fire,
water.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Oh well, I mean, maybe I already passed through
fire pretty quickly.
I was pretty angry this weekendyou read fire to me.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
I don't.
I saw I know that's probably myleo, my leo rising maybe, and
the whole time you've beentalking I've been holding like I
don't know what this is, but Iremember we got it in disney at
some water exhibit.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
I just don't remember what it is, but it's cool.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Reminds me of a little mermaid ariel, yeah
actually yeah, I think magic somaybe, as we wrap this up, I
would love love if folks couldgive what are their like top two
self-care tips, maybe from eachof your modalities or whatever
you're going through right nowto help people that maybe feel
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the way that we feel ungrounded,disconnected, that kind of
thing.
So what would you and I'm justgoing to do a free for all.
I'm not going to call on you.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
So whoever wants to go first in terms of just
feeling what, what can be, whattools can people walk away with
so that they can feel better togo first the first, that's been
really helpful, which I wasalready feeling pulled toward,
and then you were channeling forMary and she was like start
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just studying yourself again.
Basically is going, just havingfun and diving deeper into my
own chart, not looking foranything specific, but just like
learning more about who I amand like why I'm designed the
way I am, because everyone loveslike getting astrology readings
, getting numerology readingslike that, and I literally have
the the power for lack of abetter term to look into my own
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human design chart and read itbecause I know how to do that.
So I've been doing more of thatand my gene keys and diving into
my gene keys and that thatstops the mind spiral in that
negative way and puts it kind ofto good use and it makes me
really love myself again.
Get back into my body and thenmy go tos for actual like
somatic practices.
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I've been doing tapping everysingle day and the past, like
few days, has been like bawlingmy eyes out, tapping, so like
good tapping sessions, and I'vebeen doing my Kundalini every
day, like just challenged me to,and that stuff has felt nice
and grounding, getting me backinto some sense of peace, even
if it feels like it disappears,like half an hour later.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
I've been doing um hurt in Korea, and so that is a
Kundalini meditation, um.
And for me, gosh, it's beencrazy because I feel like I'm
getting all of these like partof it.
I'm actually going to post areel about this later because so
many people have asked me to dothis Um explaining like when
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you do the chanting, likevisualizing, it comes through
the crown, out through the thirdeye, and so, just like any
other person that tries to sitand meditate, it's hard, and
sometimes my mind wanders, and Ido it first thing in the
morning.
So I might be like, oh, I haveto like.
Sometimes my mind wanders and Ido it first thing in the
morning.
So I might be like, oh, I haveto like, wake up my kid, I have
to do this or that Um.
But then I'm like, oh, no,satanama, um.
(40:26):
And when I do that, I'm like,well, my heart space is like
exploding and I'm like peopleare coming into my meditation.
I'm sending them love, um.
I had this really awesomemoment where I was like pouring
out love to this individual whocame into my meditation and then
spirit says to me if you wrapyourself in that love, it's not
going to take away from whatyou're giving to other people,
and I was like, okay, so nowthat's what I'm kind of like, uh
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, you know, entering into in mymeditation, but like doing the
meditation, for me it'sdiscipline, I think, like across
the board.
It's like it's not just like,oh, I'm going to do whatever I
feel like to connect with spirittoday, it's like, no, I know
that this works and I'm going todo this and I'm going to make
sure that I do.
It's a non-negotiable Um.
So it's it's.
For me, sitting in meditation,um, it's like reading some kind
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of like something to give me newknowledge, something to give me
different access to source.
I do the meditation and then Ipull a card and then I journal.
I mean, that sounds like a lotof things, but it really doesn't
take take that long.
But I think that another bigthing that I'm so blessed to be
able to do in my daily life islike really be in my body Like I
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.
You know I teach physicallydemanding classes and stuff, and
for me, like this morning, Iwas like, ah, like feeling just
frustrated and like tired andstuff.
And then I like taught my classand I was like I feel better
now thank God for that.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Monday 9 am class man .
I know, I know I've beenleaning on that.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Rachel, you got anything you want me to go?
Oh, me, okay, I can go.
So there's a couple of thingsthat are popping up in my head.
The first thing is I love whatyou said, jess, and I think
routine is so important, butalso there's a component, and
it's it's a gray space.
And I think routine is soimportant, but also there's a
component and it's it's a grayspace, and I don't know what the
right answer is for a lot ofthis stuff, but know that
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whatever you're going through orwherever you're at is exactly
where you're supposed to be, andand trusting that, so, like I
trust that I have no clientsthis week for a reason.
So I'm like, okay, so what doesthat mean?
What do I do?
Right, because what spirit isdoing through a lot of this work
for me personally, is giving mespace and allowing me and
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gifting me time to figure outwhat is my direction of travel.
And so there's to me this is agreat like time for an
assessment and figuring outagain what serves me, what
doesn't serve me, where am I ontrack, where am I off track?
And it doesn't have to be thisbig thing, but I think most
people will generally know whenthey're off track because
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there's there's resistance,things are harder than they
should be.
So this is a really cool weekfor me personally, where I'm
going to really take like 10steps back and figure out where
have I been distracting myselfand avoiding things that I need
to do?
Like, for example, I have twoor three business things on my
to-do list that I need to gosign up for this week and I'm
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like fine, I have time today, Iwill go and go and sign up for
these things.
So I trust that, whatever thisjourney is with spirit, whatever
I'm going through energetically, there is a reason for it and
I'm going to have to trust itand I trust that I'm going to
come out the other side betterthan the way I entered it.
So there's this trust.
There's bringing it again,trusting the space, feeling the
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resistance and moving into theresistance instead of
distracting myself from theresistance.
And then the last piece is againjust go back to the basics.
So where, when things get scary, confusing, overwhelming, there
is a reason why our ancestorslike, okay, they probably had
their mental health issues.
I get it, but there's just,there's such simplicity in the
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way that humans have beenhistorically like in terms of
our.
We had hunters and we hadgatherers, right Like.
We spent all our days makingfood, cooking food.
Everybody's doing the tired,right?
No wonder we're fucking tired,yeah.
So so it's bringing it back towhatever feels good.
And if you feel distracted, like, start removing some things for
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your life, like I'm going tosay it even though I'm on social
media, delete social media,right Like, or schedule time, I
love it Just like schedule timeand schedule 10 minutes, 20
minutes a day that you're goingto do social media and then
don't go on it later, right.
So it's just like, try to tryto just focus on right now.
We're all in the survival mode.
Just focus on the things thatare going to allow you to
survive and thrive and don'tworry about the rest.
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If it's supposed to be in there, you will make time and space
for it, and I think that's whatI had.
What about you, rachel?
Speaker 3 (44:59):
I was just.
I'm glad you said that, becauseI've been sitting here feeling
like shit, because I haven'tdone anything to like help
myself feel better.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
OK, first of all, that can't be true.
But also stop shaming yourself,because, well, that can't be
true.
But also stop shaming yourself,cause well that's.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
I was like this is a good idea to like look at things
with curiosity instead ofinterrogation.
I normally would interrogatemyself and be like you should do
better and you should do.
You do it Cause I do know more.
I do know more and like meetingthat, like I know, when these
waves come, that like they'rejust waves, it's just emotion,
it can't hurt me, there'snothing to fear.
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Like this is, I can face whatI'm facing, I'm strong enough to
do it, but for some reason,every fucking time I feel like I
look like a dog with a tail, mytail between my legs, and I'm
like and then I come out theother side like a lion, you know
.
And so I've been sitting herelike shit, what do I do?
And I was like I've been givingmyself a lot of grace, which is
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something that was very inshort supply when I was a kid
and some of my ancestral healingis actually a lot of grace work
.
Like sitting in, because I dosit in.
Like I do a lot ofvisualizations because, like I
lean on plant medicine.
So that is something I've beendoing is like sitting in
visualization with, like my momand then her mother, and then
her mother before her and hercause.
They were all not nice women andI've worked really hard to not
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only be a nice woman but to onlyhave nice women in my life and
that's, in my opinion, likethere's a huge like wound on the
feminine.
And I think there's somethingabout, like this space that I'm
in right now physically and thatthat translates into what I do
for work and then the people Ientertain myself like you know
what I'm saying.
Like it's no coincidence to methat I found a group of
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intuitive, feminine, strongwomen, all having similar makeup
that I do at this point in mylife when I have been nothing
but all of my trauma has beeninflicted me by the feminine
life, when I have been nothingbut all of my trauma has been
inflicted me by by the feminine.
And now here comes you guys and, like the rest of my friends
and the rest of like, I work insuch a feminine based field.
You know, sorry, I'm like atangent.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
Can I reflect something back on you, rachel?
I think out of out of thisgroup, you are the one who I
think is most understanding ofyour own problems, and you just
target the hell out of it andyou go right into what is the
exact problem and you go rightafter it.
Whereas I get, I swirl, I'mlike all the problems turn into
one big problem.
I don't know what to go or whatto do, but you, you are so
laser focused on what is thisone specific problem and what
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tools do I have to fix it,because you are so like that.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
I do, I like it, I, you know, I, you guys remember
Hercules, like the movieHercules.
I feel like that's that's whatI do.
I feel like we're, we're likethe, the we've, or at least
that's what I do Like I'm thereader of the, so I do
appreciate that, cause I that'strue.
It's just the vulnerability andlike, like, because a lot of
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what I do because I'm such anenergy-based worker and I work
with people that all do gothrough similar stuff I do that
sometimes my healing is justbeing really present with my kid
, and sometimes that's just likeordering, takeout, lighting
some incense and like putting ona simmer pot.
If, like, if I, because thereare like mundane things I do in
my craft that like I, becausewhen I put my makeup on or my
skincare, I draw sigils, so Ican't sit here and say I don't
do anything like there are likemundane things I do in my craft
that like I, because when I putmy makeup on or my skincare, I
draw sigils, so I can't sit hereand say I don't do anything.
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Like there are things I do.
But damn fuck, y'all make meconfront my shit, and I love you
all so much.
Speaker 4 (48:25):
I think it sounds like you're doing like so much
deep work and I think, likeacross the board, like anything
that we're doing, like we'redoing it because it resonates
with us and you've integratedthese practices just so much
into your daily habits thatyou're not like, oh, this is the
time I carve out to do this.
It's like you're doing it allthe time and that's maybe why
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it's hard for you to pinpoint it.
But like I think it's importantto remember like we're not
doing any of this stuff becausewe have to fix ourselves.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
We're doing it to come home to ourselves.
I don't think there's a betterway to end that episode Mic drop
, goodness, that was amazing.
I just want to thank you all somuch for being so.
I literally have nothing elseto say, just just summarize it
all.
So, thank you so much, holymacaroni.
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So great to see you all hereagain today, and then I'm sure
we'll be together all soon.
But thank you all for yourvulnerability, your honesty,
your transparency and how you'refeeling what's going on, and
hopefully our listeners arewalking away with some tools
that they can put into theirschool belt to help them through
this chaotic journey too.
So, sending love to all of youand all of the listeners out
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there Absolutely Bye, guys, bye.
all right, and we are back here with the second
edition of the weathervanewitches, so happy to be as be
reconvened as this coven andtalking today about mental
health, because I think we areall going through the ringer
energetically with all of thisastrology stuff that goes on.
I am not the astrologyspecialist in the group, do not
(00:26):
defer to me about this, butthere's a lot of things
politically, economically,energetically going on right now
and I thought this would be areally great episode because we
have all been bouncing back andforth for the last month, I
would say, on mental health,personal struggles, and what has
been so interesting about allof us over this past month
(00:47):
excuse me, put my teeth back inthis past month is that we have
gone through and so unexpectedlyfound different ways for us to
either understand disconnects inour energy and also how to
address those differently, giventhe different modalities we
have.
So that is what we are going totalk about here together as a
(01:09):
group today.
Just a reminder hi, I'm Nicole.
I'll let everybody introducethemselves with their own voices
so we know who is who.
If you're just listening tothis and not watching it on
video, I want to reach out.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Oh, that's me, Me next, sir.
Like well, who goes next?
I don't know.
Hi, I'm Adriana, human designexpert and speaker.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Hi, I'm Rachel, psychic medium, ancestral healer
.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Hi, I'm Jess, a body worker, yoga worker.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I'm the body witch, the body witch, the general guru
over here and again Nicole Pope, akashic and shamanic
evidential medium here.
So I'll start, I will I willcrucify my for myself first, in
terms of my mental health overthis past month, because it has
been such a struggleenergetically and there have
(01:58):
been so many ups and downsenergetically over the past
month and as we record this,it's April 7th.
Um, those, those astrologypeople.
Keep me honest, I think.
Are we still in Venusretrograde?
Are we done?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
with that yet Until the end of the week.
Yeah, this is what's happeningto my face right now, why I keep
crying.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Okay, and then Mercury retrograde.
That ends today.
Yeah, okay, and obviously Idon't follow a lot of this stuff
, but I will tell you thatenergetically with myself I feel
more of the collective energyand I get really stuck in this
thick mud from a collectiveenergy standpoint.
So this entire month for me hasbeen rethinking and rethinking
(02:38):
and panic mode and anxiety modeand not going to bed probably
until midnight every singlenight and waking up till 6 AM
every single night.
And so for me personally, Ideal with a lot of this stuff by
pure avoidance.
It's my, it's my way, right,because if I think about things
(02:58):
I will overthink and I will getinto this mental cycle.
So for me, energetically, overthe past month it has been just
so much coming at me from somany different directions and,
by the way, my kids have beensick for probably about two
months straight at this point.
So I am literally at this pointand we are up here in eternal
winter, up here in new England.
I am literally at this pointwhere I am done.
(03:19):
I I am so far beyond the pointof being overstimulated and
burnt out.
I am literally in this nowregression mode where I am
ferment mode, and that has beenshown to me because I rely so
much on spirit.
That has been shown to mepersonally through spirit and
the fact that I don't have anybookings this week, and this is
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what spirit does to me, becausethis is how they will show me
something's off and I will sitback and just let spirit guide
me.
And this week they're showing.
They literally took things offmy calendar so that I can
personally reset, and I lovethat about spirits.
I'm going to pause to see ifthere's any reactions from the
group so far, cause I see Rachelvigorously writing notes.
Yes, I have questions.
(04:09):
What shirt are you wearing?
Oh, I'm saying we're save.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Ferris.
Okay, so all I could see was asave and I was like how funny it
is that like you're, you'relike you know, I'm really
relying on spirits like guide me, and it's like save.
I'm just like what the bottomof that is.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Me, can you save me?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
right now Help, so no , I just, I so agree about like
being guided during this time?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, so how is everybody else feeling right now
in terms of energetically thispast month or so?
Caked in the teeth.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, it's not great.
I've cried at least five timessince just last night Like
bawling, crying in the teeth.
Yes, Not great.
I've cried at least five timessince just last night like
bawling, crying in the tub.
Yeah, so it's not great.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
You're kind of runs in cancer, right.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, yeah, I feel like.
Yep, yeah, I got in the tub,jess.
What about you?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Yeah, ups and downs.
I feel like it's like even andthen drop and then back to even
and then drop, but there's no,like I'm like really pushing for
that joy, you know, and likethose kind of like higher States
, and I'm just like, oh, we'reback at even, okay.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, I resonate with that too.
That's what it feels like.
Yep, like spa day last week wasgood, not great.
And then I met with Nicole andshe delivered some messages that
were really good and I thoughtI was like I was like, okay, I'm
moving out of this.
The next day was good, and thenit was like back down again.
What is this?
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I agree with that about, especially about, like
the pushing for joy, likebecause I do, like I've been
around the block long enough andlike because what I'm going
through is so specific to likemy line of work.
It is I've it's quite anout-of-body experience and I
feel like I'm getting humbled inways I wasn't anticipating.
Um, that's what it is, yes, I'mjust, I'm getting leveled.
(05:56):
Is what it feels likedemolished?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I didn't even think about that, though, because you
were getting kicked in the teethwith your line of work.
Yeah, I'm getting were gettingkicked in the teeth with your
line of work.
Yeah, I'm getting in the kickedin the teeth with my line of
work.
Adriana, you too, yep, do youdo you mind?
And Jess, I would love to hearyour perspective too.
Is that coming, coming at youas well?
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Yeah, I think I think collectively, um, and anyone
that I'm like coming into, likecommunity with everyone, is
feeling untethered.
Basically, I think, and I thinkit's like you know, it's like
physically, emotionally,energetically, and I think it's
(06:40):
really like like our innerdirection is sort of feeling
like out of sync and it's reallyan invitation to recalibrate,
right, like with everythingthat's going on, these big
shifts like in astrology, andlike politics, our economy, like
so many things, feel uncertain,that it's like, oh, this plan,
this path that I had for my life, like maybe it's not going to
(07:02):
look like that anymore and likeI, we don't like change as human
beings, right, but like if wejust pause and trust and like
sit with spirit and like do ourthings, like our, our individual
things and things that we docollectively that help us to
like reconnect with source, it'sjust like oh, like maybe we're
moving in a radically differentdirection.
(07:24):
But I think it's, if you reframeit like that, it can be like
actually pretty, pretty exciting, right, like it's just
unfamiliar, and unfamiliar isscary, and it's like depressing
and upsetting when things aren'tgoing like we were thinking
they were going to like with our, you know, january 1st, like
(07:44):
what's our plan for the year.
Like oh, fuck, like not anymore.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I just feel like you're so much more versed in
that, just just because, likebecause you are in that space
where you, you, you see physicaltransformations of people,
right, so I think there's justsomething that's so amazing in
in your line of work.
But I think I mean I love whatyou said people feel untethered
and they need to recalibrate.
I think that's the perfect wayto describe this.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Yeah, I think it's a clear invitation for us to just
come back to what anchors usright and, like a lot of us,
like in our group chat and likethings that you mentioned at the
start of this recording, it'slike the physical body is like a
compass that's going to guideus where, where we're meant to
be next, like these symptoms oflike insomnia or like you know
(08:35):
we've been talking about gettinglike intense, like drives, like
do, do, do, do, do, right, likegetting a lot of things done at
once and then feelingcompletely drained, kind of like
this polarity at play.
I think like the energy justfeels like really dramatic right
now.
Right, like the pendulum islike just swinging so far in
(08:55):
either direction.
Cause it's the same thing forme.
I either feel like I'm in likenervous system flight mode, like
I'm going to get oh my God, Igot like 50 things done.
I feel great, what's next?
I'm on it to like crash andburn, like like that's how I was
feeling this morning.
I was just like holy shit, likeI you know, I had like a
vacation, like a week off torest, didn't really do that much
(09:16):
, and then came right back andI'm like I haven't had a day off
since and I'm like you know, Ihad like yoga teacher training
this weekend holding space forpeople, lots of things going on.
Even the students in yogateacher training are like every
single one of them has reachedout to me and they have some
major life shift happening andit's just influencing how we all
show up.
(09:36):
It's hard to hold space foreach other when we have like
this baggage.
It's like it's like physicallyyou can feel it like physically
pulling you backwards and all ofthis stuff.
Like when we come intocollective right, because like
we work on ourselvesindividually, like what I do
with like my sauna practice inthe morning, and then we come
together and then we're allmirrors for each other and like
(09:58):
all of this stuff that comes up,it's like an opportunity for us
to forgive something inourselves and like our
unconscious guilt, right.
So it's just like we have thisawesome opportunity, with
everything that's going on thatfeels so hard and so heavy, to
like take it to the next level,right.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Then never be here again.
Yeah, exactly, I love that, Ilove that.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Pulling, pulling, pulling, pulling, so you can
like really catapult likeslingshot, way farther than
you've ever gone before usingthe energy of the, using the
physical act of transmutation astransportation, yes, I like
that that just got me, yeah, andit's like an opportunity, too,
(10:43):
to like lean into your guides,right, like that's.
that's like what I've beenreally exploring, the like since
venus retrograde, which, likewhat the fuck guys honestly like
it's just been so everythingit's chaotic, everything's
unpredictable, but like what ispredictable.
It's like the rituals androutines that we put into our
life, the things that we knowhelp anchor us, help ground us,
(11:05):
like help keep us remind us that, like, whatever's happening
around us is just the dream,right, right, like remind us
that we are connected to spirit,like that's our true self, like
stepping into our highest self,right, but then all this other
shit happens and then we're justlike, oh yeah, I'm like in this
body and like things feel soheavy and like money and love
(11:26):
and like unpredictability, allof this stress comes up, but
like, okay, like what am I?
doing every day to remind myselfthat that's not real.
You know, like not to say that,like we don't still have to go
through that, but likemaintaining that kind of like
higher consciousness, right,like higher elevation, and
actually said oh sorry, go ahead, keep going, I'm done, I'm not
(11:49):
gonna make no, I don't haveanything to say today.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
No, you said something that I think makes
sense to us, but for those whoare listening, I think it'd be
so great if we all explored it,for them to learn, how you said,
lean into our guides, and so alot of the people listening are
like, desire that kind ofconnection, but don't know how.
So what's something that youwould say?
And if you guys want to likeround robin this or whatever,
(12:14):
what's something you would say,jess, where they could learn
that?
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Yeah, I actually I would love to share first on
this, because I think that I'mkind of like the least versed in
this and actually you all havehelped, you constantly remind me
about, like checking in withguys and stuff, and so, as our
friendship like early stages ofour friendship developing, I was
like I don't know who my guidesare, cause like even our first
(12:39):
meeting, I remember you guys isit Gabriel, arcadial, gabriel?
Yeah, you guys had thatconnection and I was like how do
they know that?
And so then I like you know,stop being shy and ask about it,
like, how do you find out whoyour guides are?
Um, and then I just startedlike putting it out there, like
after my meditation, when I findmyself in like my clearest or
(13:00):
like most open, spacious kind oflike head space or heart space,
maybe, um, really like openingmy heart to that and, um, I
don't, you know, I could talkabout this for a long time, I
won't but, um, something that uh, like obviously Jesus is one of
my guides and that's like arelationship and understanding,
(13:23):
a concept that I have reallylike dived, dove into um since
like the start of the year andthat that is that's an anchor
for me now to know that like oh,jesus is my guide, like we're
cool now, because like we weregreat.
And then I was like no, I neverwant to talk about jesus.
And now I'm like okay, likewe're in a healthy space, so
(13:46):
like.
And then asking and using cardsand other things to say like
okay, okay, like guides, likereveal yourselves to me.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Maybe the easiest way I tell people to um, your
guides are typically, I'm goingto say, angels, archangels,
ascended masters and or anyother deity, right?
So, like, I'm talking a lot inthe Christian context, but it
really is any sort of deity thatyou resonate with.
(14:16):
If, if you already have thisconnection with the deity and
you don't know why, you morethan likely are not there.
Your guide, right?
And?
And so if you're truly not sure, I would recommend you just go
out and Google who are angels,who are guides, who are gods,
goddesses, and, honestly, youare going to know you're going
to get to this one and you'regoing to stop your heart's going
(14:37):
to start beating and you'rejust going to know I work with
them, they're my guide andyou're going to have no logical
reason to know that whatsoever.
But those are kind of the bigguns, right, and I think there's
a really cool way to do thatfor your immediate guide and
when I say immediate guide, Imean your guardian angel,
(15:01):
whatever, whatever you want tocall the guy that's kind of with
you from your first breath tillyour last breath.
I cannot get words out today.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Put the teeth back in your mouth.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I know Maybe I'm not supposed to talk this much, I'm
supposed to sit back and listento this one, but I would
recommend you get some cards outand just say pull some tarot
cards, pull some Oracle cards.
What's your personality, whoare you, what are you like, what
are you like, how do you workwith me, that kind of thing.
So there's, there's so manydifferent ways you can figure
out who your, your guides, are,as well as what is you know,
(15:28):
what's your relationship withthem, what's their personality.
And there's just you have totrust your instinct and trust
what you get, so that you canreally just get to know them a
little bit more.
And, rachel, I'm sure you havesome other ways that you connect
with your guides.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Yeah, like first starting this was hard but just
because, like you know, likereligious trauma and then like
trauma around trusting self,like a lot of I feel like it's
like just connection with spiritis like when you said body,
which just I was like that'sfucking perfect, because that's
how I feel, like a lot of ourintuition is tied into our
physical sense, and like ourclairsentience and how that's
(16:07):
such a thing for a lot of peopleand like how messages and
traumas can stay stored in ourbodies.
So, but for me, when I wasfirst starting, it was like
recognition of patterns in myown life.
So like if I was seeing a bunchof hawks, like okay, I would
take that, just because I alsohave ADD or undiagnosed ADHD,
and I take what's prevalent inmy life, like what theme is
(16:28):
really?
Like are they crows?
One time I saw two blue herons.
I'm shit, you're not.
It was right before we movedinto this house.
I saw two blue herons intersectover to overhead one going this
way, one going this way and Iwas like wow, I feel so safe in
this moment and like that washuge for me and that was about
four years into my journey oflike truly stepping into
authenticity.
So I was like that for me wasancestral and angel
(16:52):
interconnecting, because they'retwo different energies to me.
So I wrote down a lot um,anyways, yeah, patterns, I
recognize patterns and that'show I like to do it.
And then making room to receivethese bigger energies and not
being intimidated by thembecause that's what I think
turns a lot of people off islike, either whether it's
(17:13):
religious trauma or negativeprogramming around our personal
connection with spirit or God,like especially a patriarchal
Christian God that's not goingto resonate with a lot of people
and like that supports areligion that like for me, I
don't think religion andspirituality I know a lot of
people agree with this don't gohand.
They don't go hand in hand,right, and so yeah I don't even
(17:36):
think they belong in the sameconversation.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
I don't think religion should even exist.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Like when jesus said you follow no, I said this today
.
I was like when jesus saidfollow no other god but me, he
wasn't saying like follow noother god but me.
He was saying like follow what,what you feel inside.
Follow no other God but self.
You know, cause the kingdom ofheaven is within.
Like I feel like we've gone sofucking far left, you know, and
like some one of you mentioned,um, like being turned off by
(18:04):
Jesus, like when you were orwhatever, and I was like
literally I feel like I threwthe baby out with the bath water
and like and it's I, I a lot ofmy recognition with guides.
So I started with ancestral.
That was just easiest for mebecause I'm Irish and like that
was really drilled into me frommy elders, like in my real life
was that strength in the Irishcommunity.
So I worked with mygrandparents and the ones that I
(18:27):
knew were kind of open to whatI do, because I also, on my
mom's side, like there isrepulsion for what I do.
So it took me a long time.
So it was, I started with theancestral and then I worked over
to angel, like angelic realm,right when my daughter was born.
I got like okay with that kindof energy because I feel like
she just kids embrace, that,they embody that and like it's
(18:50):
given the shit out of me.
But that's because I learned tobe afraid of it.
It wasn't something I wasafraid of when I was her age, so
yeah, love that so much so Iwould say I was oh, go ahead, no
go ahead adriana
Speaker 2 (19:07):
I would say I was very much like jess when I was
first learning about this.
Like I, when I thought guides,I thought they were always
spirit that we had known at onepoint, or ancestral or something
I didn't know.
There was anything else.
And then, like two years ago, Iwas sitting in a woman's circle
at my friend Kim's place andshe owns a shop and they sell
(19:27):
Oracle cards there, and so wewere in the shop and I felt like
there was like this, I don'tknow something staring at me and
I look up and across the wayand on the shelf I finally have
it now was this Oracle deckstaring at me and it had Mary
Magdalene.
And I was like Kim, who is that?
I was like that's beautiful.
And then she said MaryMagdalene.
(19:48):
And I was like, oh well, that'snot for me and I like left that
there.
And I was like, oh well, that'snot for me and I like left that
there.
But then a few months later in aReiki session I was told Mary
Magdalene was holding my hand,jesus was holding her hand.
And then there was another,like really big.
She called it like God-like,odin-like, but it wasn't Odin
type of figure, like wrathfulbut protective and I still don't
(20:09):
know who that really is.
And I had to do a lot of faithreconstruction around that and
and being okay with like Maryand Jesus being a part of like
whatever this is next to meholding my hand, I was like, but
I don't like believe inreligion.
And now, thankfully, a whilelater, two years later, um, she
(20:29):
comes up all the fucking time.
Nicole's just's just like ohhey, mary's here wanting to talk
to you and now I feel like shejust gives me signs and I feel
like she embraces me a lot.
But it's taken some time to getthere and to trust that like I.
I knew it when I first saw thedeck of cards and I was just
like I don't know what thatfeeling is, so I left it alone.
But that's what nicole wastalking about.
How like you'll, you'll know,even if you don't know, you know
(20:51):
you both helped heal myrelationship with each of those
deities.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Like both Jess and Adriana, like Jesus, I was so
turned off to, and then Nicole'slike I mean, it's like Jeshua.
I was like a what, a what now?
And like, and like the samething with Mary Magdalene, like
her friend Kim that she'stalking about.
She's like I swear to Godembodies, it's some like being
in her vortex.
You, literally, it was justlike Mary Magdalene shows up and
(21:17):
she's like oh, I picked you.
And you're like why?
Okay, yeah, and for me, I waslike I will submit at your skirt
, crying in fear Please don'thurt me.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
I love it.
Yeah, and when I was practicing, when I I just loved it because
Adrian and I were chatting lastweek and I was like, hey, can I
practice?
Because I like to practiceevidential mediumship.
And then I tried to and sheimmediately walked in and I was
like, oh no, you, you, you'rehere, mary Magdalene, you're no,
I'm doing evidential.
And she's like no, you're not,you're gonna.
I really needed to heareverything she said that night.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
That's, that's why she's like no, you're not,
you're going to.
I really needed to heareverything she said that night.
That's.
That's why she's like thisbitch is breaking down.
Look, I'm still.
I'm crying again right now.
Oh Jesus.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
So bringing it back to kind of this mental health
topic, I love that you can workwith your guides and I think,
before maybe I ask a couple ofquestions, I want to point out
that working with guides iswonderful, but it's not going to
take away the pain and thejourney that we had to go
through, and I think that we areall in the freaking thick of it
(22:24):
right now because working withguides and doing this
metaphysical work, it is not acure-all, it is not a silver
bullet for resolving whateverpath we're on, but what it is is
this opportunity for us to growand become our best selves, and
our guides often show us theway through that, and I think
that's where all of us are rightnow.
(22:45):
So I don't know where we feellike going or where we feel like
talking about I mean personallyI can talk about with me.
Like talking about I meanpersonally I can talk about with
me my mediumship has been allover the fucking place.
Like one week my mediumship isepic, the next week it's total
shit.
And then, like the Akashicrecords is really good and I
know there's a lot of.
For me personally, there's a lotof energetic stuff that kind of
(23:07):
goes up and down, especiallywith this collective, because
the collective is so unsettledand we are humans here in this,
this physical world.
So, depending on where thecollective is so unsettled and
we are humans here in this, thisphysical world, so depending on
where the energy is at reallyimpacts the quality of my
readings, which has been really,really not consistent lately,
and so this week or last weekthey've literally pulled out the
rug from under me and everyeverything that typically comes
(23:29):
easy for me has been so hard andor coming in completely
different in every way that theyhave been before.
So I'm literally right nowbringing it back to the basics
and I think, jess, you explainedit best.
It's like reconstructing theway that I do.
My mediumship so hopefully it'senergetic proof is the only way
(23:51):
I can kind of think this.
So, for me, when times getreally hard, I personally
obviously connect with all ofyou and make sure I'm not
fucking crazy, right, but then Ialso bring it back down to the
structural components and likerebuild things.
So I'm always like, if thingsare going haywire, let me bring
it down to making sure I'mgetting trying to get enough
(24:13):
sleep, make sure I'm eating well, drinking enough water, taking
care of myself and just doingthe basics and kind of adding
stuff back on top.
So I like to strip things awaythat don't resonate or make
sense with me anymore.
So that's kind of how I'mapproaching this current climate
.
I don't know if anyone elsewants to kind of talk about
what's going on and how they'reapproaching it of talk about
(24:37):
what's going on and how they'reapproaching it.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
I definitely can.
So I agree, like work has been.
I'm also.
I'm a medium as well, so, well,psychic media, I don't know.
I do readings as well, and likework has been no, like
non-existent since I launched mysite.
Like not a single crickets I'vegotten support, which is
amazing.
But like crickets, but alsolike personally, I'm going
through like my mom is inhospice right now and she's at
(25:01):
the end of her life and like itwas a really challenging weekend
and spending time with herSaturday I was like, oh, this is
why, okay, and I looked back atlike the last few months and
like how I'd really spent priorto knowing she was going on
hospice.
I really started thisinvestigation Like I got wicked,
fucking sick and like I startedthis investigation on like
(25:22):
metaphysical healing andphysical healing.
So using mullein for both mylung health but also mullein is
good for healing energeticwounds, healing the mother wound
, healing ancestrally and it'swonderful, it was an herb for
the Celtic, so I was like thisis all in one and they've also
been leading more into plantmedicine, both through cacao and
other forms of plant medicine,and then physical healing.
(25:44):
So making sure I move my bodyevery single fucking day, making
sure I stretch, and when I'mstretching I'm doing it in
complete silence, so I'm able tomake sense of the shit, of like
the energetic, like fuck up inmy body right now, cause it
feels like everything is likejam, fucking packed, and I know
it's.
It feels so similar to laborand like my labor.
(26:06):
I didn't do any of that, Iliterally just like labored on
my back the way they told me Ishould, and I was like I feel
like I should get up and move,and they were like you should
stay, cause I was like I was notokay.
So, but now I have thatopportunity.
So I I've been really leaning on, like talking to myself as if I
was a client, because this isthe, the, the level of energetic
purge I'm going through rightnow.
(26:26):
I can see the connection andI'm like this is the high level
stuff I have been wanting andneeding to manifest and I'm
going through it now so that Ican help myself and even just my
descendants, like I'm going todie one day and like my kid's
going to have to deal with that,and now I can tell her, like
(26:48):
when this wound appears, this ishow I would.
This is how I would challengeit.
This is how I would sit with it.
This is what I would do whenthis, you know, ache is
happening in your physical life.
This is how it's going to showup in the metaphysical Um.
So that's how I've been.
It's like looking at through,looking at my pain, through
curiosity, instead of justletting the pain consume my life
(27:09):
so good it's so good.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
And you're the first one where we get.
We're like, oh man, I'm feelingthis.
And you're like, well, thatthat's the um.
That's that means this in thespirituality world.
I'm like, oh my god, I nevereven thought about this so much
so that I, like bought a medicalintuition book so that I can
try to keep up with you.
Yeah, love it, it's amazing.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
And I love how you said that you're stretching in
like complete silence so thatyou can kind of like feel the
shit that's going on in yourbody.
I think like that's definitelysomething that I do.
It's like you know, you moveinto a hold, a stretch or
(27:56):
something, or like move intosome physical movement and then
like actually tune in to like,okay, what sensation do I feel
in my physical body?
Like that's a very grounding,like anchoring kind of practice.
But then also okay, now I'veI've named that I feel it what
else comes up?
Like what comes up spirituallyor emotionally?
(28:18):
Right, because, like, we holdthat stuff in our physical body,
in like our fascial system.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
So and like, yeah, and like we're all energetic
workers, right?
So not only do we, are we allconfronted with stuff on the
daily basis and our ownexistence, but like we all have
clients that are people too, andwe have kids that are people
too, and we have kids that arepeople too, and we hold space
for all of these messages andguides and sometimes I feel like
when the collective isungrounded, this is when it's
(28:46):
the hardest.
But I also, like we're about tostart 75 day hard.
I'm so excited and like I foundmyself being really challenged
and being like, with everythinggoing on, I need to like drop it
down.
And I was like, no, witheverything going on, this is
what I need to do.
I need to prime my body like itis.
I need to treat my body withthe utmost care and that's what
I'm going to do, and there'snothing to be.
I was like afraid of it andthere's nothing I should be
(29:08):
afraid of.
Um, I'm just afraid of hardthings, but you know, it's also
good to challenge that.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Yeah, I think it's.
I think it's really importantto acknowledge that Like, yeah,
it's normal to be afraid of hardthings, it's normal to dislike
discomfort, right, Like we'retalking about.
Like you know, I'm over heresaying like well, just lean into
your guides and like doanchoring activities, but like
it doesn't always feel great,it's just like okay, like we
(29:36):
just keep it up consistently andwe know that.
Yeah Well you know, everythinghas like a birth, life, death,
rebirth, right, like everythingcomes in cycles, so it's just
like okay, like lean into it,like what can I learn from this?
Speaker 3 (29:51):
I was like amazing what Hearing both you guys when
you guys did the rock is reallywhat changed my level of how I
look at fitness and like justphysical discomfort I was like
look at what they did okay, yeah, it was inspiring that was
pretty badass.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Go us, jess, go you guys.
And Jessica is doing it again,so maybe we should drop her
donation link.
I'm volunteering this year, notdoing it, so we'll drop Jess's
donation link in the commentstoo.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Yeah, I can't believe I'm doing that.
The things that you know, thatyou know, work for you.
But I also want to circle backto another concept that you
introduced that really resonatedwith me, which is that the way
(30:42):
that you've always done thingslike I touched on this a little
bit before too but like, maybe,like that's not, that's not how
spirits guiding you anymore.
Like you said, your readingsare different.
I'm finding the same thingBecause I work, you know, I
teach group classes and then Iwork one-on-one in terms of,
like, body work we'll call itlike as a massage therapist.
(31:03):
Um, adriana, is it okay if Ishare something about a session
that we had?
Yeah, okay.
So, um, this was wild to mebecause I just like, when you
come from this place of like youknow either borderline or in
burnout, right, when you're justfeeling like, oh, like I don't
have that much to give again, Ithink it's another opportunity
(31:25):
to lean on spirit more and justremember that we're just a
vessel, right, like we don'thave to effort so much for
everything all the time.
We don't have to effort so muchfor everything all the time.
So, in session with Adrianalast week, she came in and I
just opened myself up to likewhatever's going to come through
, because typically I'm like,okay, like these people come in,
(31:46):
clients come in and they'relike paying for service, and I'm
like, okay, I have to do a fullbody massage and then any other
little thing that I can get inthere that like feels like it's
coming from spirit, great.
But in this case, um, obviouslywe have quite a rapport, so it
was a little, a little bit itfelt safe for me to do this, but
I was just like pulling it off.
I was doing stuff.
I'm like, okay, here we go, yes, we're going to do that, like
(32:08):
red light therapy and cuppingand energetic holds and then
crystal clearing.
So I told you guys, I haven'tdone, um, crystal clearing or
crystal placement in quite awhile.
Like probably years, issomething that I used to do
often, um, but, adrian, I didn'teven share this with you, um,
but when I was holding your headdoing Reiki on you, um, kind of
(32:32):
toward the, I think it was atthe beginning of the session or
did it might've been halfway.
It was at the beginning of thesession or did it might've been
halfway?
It was either the start of thesession or as soon as you turned
onto your back, um, but I washolding your head and I felt a
um like infinity symbol, likebuzzing through your third eye,
and I was like, basically whatyou had been describing was that
you felt like very in your head, like leading up to that, and
(32:56):
like kind of stuck there, likeyou couldn't pull energy down.
So I felt this spiral and I waslike, yep, it's stuck.
And so I I took like a justit's a large quartz crystal and
you basically like scanning itover your body and just like
it's like ironing out, likecoaxing that energy down toward
your feet and then, um,smoothing it out with with the
(33:17):
crystal and then some othercrystals like placed on your
heart and your third eye.
So, um, yeah.
So my point is I like I said Ihaven't done that in years, but
like I'm like, oh, I used to dothis and like I used to feel
like very present with it.
So, um, that happened and I'mlike, well, this is how I do
body work now and so, likemoving forward, I'm just like,
(33:40):
okay, well, this is part of itand like, the clients that are
meant for me will be with me,and those who are not, we'll
find someone else if they'relooking for something different.
But just like giving myselfthat freedom to like, okay, I'm
going to launch in thisdirection.
And then I'm like thinkingabout leaving Thai massage back
into my offerings.
But Thai massage with theselike very intimate, like
(34:01):
breathing exercises andenergetic hold, so that's
something that I'm likeconceptualizing and wanting to
start offering, maybe thissummer when I have kind of time
to like work through it a littlebit.
So I wasn't expecting that atall.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
You just.
Okay, you're explaining so muchof what's happened since the
massage, remember?
Okay, so I walked out of themassage.
Wait, let me back up.
See, now my sacral is gettingexcited.
Okay, so I went in and you knowand anyone who's been listening
to me recently on social orwhatever knows that I've been
stuck in my head and I'm not.
I hadn't slept in two monthsand like, not my typical
(34:35):
modalities weren't working.
My nervous system was in superflight and so I go to get this
massage with Jess, which I hadpreviously booked.
So, of course, the universejust provides right.
And when I came out of themassage, I was like, wow, I feel
so much more in my body, I feelso grounded, and now that
you're telling me that, thatmakes even more sense.
I was thinking it was justhaving the body work done in
(34:59):
general was grounding, which I'msure it still is.
But now, over the past few days, you guys have seen like I'm
going to cry again.
I was just thinking, as you'resaying, that I was like I've
actually been not as in my head,like it's been a little bit
better, and then I was like, oh,but I've been crying
(35:19):
incessantly and I think whathappened is.
We moved it down into my body,so now I can release whatever
this is.
That's wild here I'm going tocry again, so thank you.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
This is my public service announcement that crying
is an energetic release.
So this is really important Ifyou feel the need to cry, feel
the need to cry like, let it out, let it, let it energetically
flow out of you because, asspirit explains it to me, it is
the removal of stagnant energy.
So I honestly, adrienne, I'm sostoked for you.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Like let's just like it's true, you can be crying for
other people.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Do it up.
That's so true.
I mean, just look at thecollective energy of this.
Like me having a fucking darknight of the soul mental
breakdown has just opened up anew part of Jess and like I and
(36:19):
I say things like that in prayerand in meditation where I'm
like, okay, if something I'mgoing through is going to help
people, I know it, but it's justso wild.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
when you actually see what it did for someone else
Like that blows my mind, makesme feel a little bit better.
I'm excited for Jess you tooffer that I.
I volunteer as tribute.
Like, please let me, I wouldlove to work on my ass is
booking.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
I worked this out.
I think too.
Think too, adriana, like.
So I did also, um.
So I'm trained in polaritytherapy and so I did.
Some like earth element holdson you as well, which is meant
to be grounding, but frombasically like when I'm hearing
you say, like the tears andeverything I'm thinking, okay,
we move from air element head,brain, um into your body, like
(36:54):
getting into water element, likeyou're getting closer to being
like more earthbound, right?
Speaker 2 (37:02):
so what comes after water?
Fire and then earth?
Speaker 3 (37:05):
oh no, well, if I get real ragey, I'll let you, yeah
rage rachel knows what is itrachel, they can do the
directions northeast, southwest,air fire water okay air, fire,
water.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Oh well, I mean, maybe I already passed through
fire pretty quickly.
I was pretty angry this weekendyou read fire to me.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
I don't.
I saw I know that's probably myleo, my leo rising maybe, and
the whole time you've beentalking I've been holding like I
don't know what this is, but Iremember we got it in disney at
some water exhibit.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
I just don't remember what it is, but it's cool.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Reminds me of a little mermaid ariel, yeah
actually yeah, I think magic somaybe, as we wrap this up, I
would love love if folks couldgive what are their like top two
self-care tips, maybe from eachof your modalities or whatever
you're going through right nowto help people that maybe feel
(38:07):
the way that we feel ungrounded,disconnected, that kind of
thing.
So what would you and I'm justgoing to do a free for all.
I'm not going to call on you.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
So whoever wants to go first in terms of just
feeling what, what can be, whattools can people walk away with
so that they can feel better togo first the first, that's been
really helpful, which I wasalready feeling pulled toward,
and then you were channeling forMary and she was like start
(38:35):
just studying yourself again.
Basically is going, just havingfun and diving deeper into my
own chart, not looking foranything specific, but just like
learning more about who I amand like why I'm designed the
way I am, because everyone loveslike getting astrology readings
, getting numerology readingslike that, and I literally have
the the power for lack of abetter term to look into my own
(38:56):
human design chart and read itbecause I know how to do that.
So I've been doing more of thatand my gene keys and diving into
my gene keys and that thatstops the mind spiral in that
negative way and puts it kind ofto good use and it makes me
really love myself again.
Get back into my body and thenmy go tos for actual like
somatic practices.
(39:17):
I've been doing tapping everysingle day and the past, like
few days, has been like bawlingmy eyes out, tapping, so like
good tapping sessions, and I'vebeen doing my Kundalini every
day, like just challenged me to,and that stuff has felt nice
and grounding, getting me backinto some sense of peace, even
if it feels like it disappears,like half an hour later.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
I've been doing um hurt in Korea, and so that is a
Kundalini meditation, um.
And for me, gosh, it's beencrazy because I feel like I'm
getting all of these like partof it.
I'm actually going to post areel about this later because so
many people have asked me to dothis Um explaining like when
(40:02):
you do the chanting, likevisualizing, it comes through
the crown, out through the thirdeye, and so, just like any
other person that tries to sitand meditate, it's hard, and
sometimes my mind wanders, and Ido it first thing in the
morning.
So I might be like, oh, I haveto like.
Sometimes my mind wanders and Ido it first thing in the
morning.
So I might be like, oh, I haveto like, wake up my kid, I have
to do this or that Um.
But then I'm like, oh, no,satanama, um.
(40:26):
And when I do that, I'm like,well, my heart space is like
exploding and I'm like peopleare coming into my meditation.
I'm sending them love, um.
I had this really awesomemoment where I was like pouring
out love to this individual whocame into my meditation and then
spirit says to me if you wrapyourself in that love, it's not
going to take away from whatyou're giving to other people,
and I was like, okay, so nowthat's what I'm kind of like, uh
(40:50):
, you know, entering into in mymeditation, but like doing the
meditation, for me it'sdiscipline, I think, like across
the board.
It's like it's not just like,oh, I'm going to do whatever I
feel like to connect with spirittoday, it's like, no, I know
that this works and I'm going todo this and I'm going to make
sure that I do.
It's a non-negotiable Um.
So it's it's.
For me, sitting in meditation,um, it's like reading some kind
(41:13):
of like something to give me newknowledge, something to give me
different access to source.
I do the meditation and then Ipull a card and then I journal.
I mean, that sounds like a lotof things, but it really doesn't
take take that long.
But I think that another bigthing that I'm so blessed to be
able to do in my daily life islike really be in my body Like I
(41:36):
.
You know I teach physicallydemanding classes and stuff, and
for me, like this morning, Iwas like, ah, like feeling just
frustrated and like tired andstuff.
And then I like taught my classand I was like I feel better
now thank God for that.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Monday 9 am class man .
I know, I know I've beenleaning on that.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Rachel, you got anything you want me to go?
Oh, me, okay, I can go.
So there's a couple of thingsthat are popping up in my head.
The first thing is I love whatyou said, jess, and I think
routine is so important, butalso there's a component, and
it's it's a gray space.
And I think routine is soimportant, but also there's a
component and it's it's a grayspace, and I don't know what the
right answer is for a lot ofthis stuff, but know that
(42:21):
whatever you're going through orwherever you're at is exactly
where you're supposed to be, andand trusting that, so, like I
trust that I have no clientsthis week for a reason.
So I'm like, okay, so what doesthat mean?
What do I do?
Right, because what spirit isdoing through a lot of this work
for me personally, is giving mespace and allowing me and
(42:42):
gifting me time to figure outwhat is my direction of travel.
And so there's to me this is agreat like time for an
assessment and figuring outagain what serves me, what
doesn't serve me, where am I ontrack, where am I off track?
And it doesn't have to be thisbig thing, but I think most
people will generally know whenthey're off track because
(43:03):
there's there's resistance,things are harder than they
should be.
So this is a really cool weekfor me personally, where I'm
going to really take like 10steps back and figure out where
have I been distracting myselfand avoiding things that I need
to do?
Like, for example, I have twoor three business things on my
to-do list that I need to gosign up for this week and I'm
(43:25):
like fine, I have time today, Iwill go and go and sign up for
these things.
So I trust that, whatever thisjourney is with spirit, whatever
I'm going through energetically, there is a reason for it and
I'm going to have to trust itand I trust that I'm going to
come out the other side betterthan the way I entered it.
So there's this trust.
There's bringing it again,trusting the space, feeling the
(43:46):
resistance and moving into theresistance instead of
distracting myself from theresistance.
And then the last piece is againjust go back to the basics.
So where, when things get scary, confusing, overwhelming, there
is a reason why our ancestorslike, okay, they probably had
their mental health issues.
I get it, but there's just,there's such simplicity in the
(44:09):
way that humans have beenhistorically like in terms of
our.
We had hunters and we hadgatherers, right Like.
We spent all our days makingfood, cooking food.
Everybody's doing the tired,right?
No wonder we're fucking tired,yeah.
So so it's bringing it back towhatever feels good.
And if you feel distracted, like, start removing some things for
(44:31):
your life, like I'm going tosay it even though I'm on social
media, delete social media,right Like, or schedule time, I
love it Just like schedule timeand schedule 10 minutes, 20
minutes a day that you're goingto do social media and then
don't go on it later, right.
So it's just like, try to tryto just focus on right now.
We're all in the survival mode.
Just focus on the things thatare going to allow you to
survive and thrive and don'tworry about the rest.
(44:52):
If it's supposed to be in there, you will make time and space
for it, and I think that's whatI had.
What about you, rachel?
Speaker 3 (44:59):
I was just.
I'm glad you said that, becauseI've been sitting here feeling
like shit, because I haven'tdone anything to like help
myself feel better.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
OK, first of all, that can't be true.
But also stop shaming yourself,because, well, that can't be
true.
But also stop shaming yourself,cause well that's.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
I was like this is a good idea to like look at things
with curiosity instead ofinterrogation.
I normally would interrogatemyself and be like you should do
better and you should do.
You do it Cause I do know more.
I do know more and like meetingthat, like I know, when these
waves come, that like they'rejust waves, it's just emotion,
it can't hurt me, there'snothing to fear.
(45:36):
Like this is, I can face whatI'm facing, I'm strong enough to
do it, but for some reason,every fucking time I feel like I
look like a dog with a tail, mytail between my legs, and I'm
like and then I come out theother side like a lion, you know
.
And so I've been sitting herelike shit, what do I do?
And I was like I've been givingmyself a lot of grace, which is
(45:57):
something that was very inshort supply when I was a kid
and some of my ancestral healingis actually a lot of grace work
.
Like sitting in, because I dosit in.
Like I do a lot ofvisualizations because, like I
lean on plant medicine.
So that is something I've beendoing is like sitting in
visualization with, like my momand then her mother, and then
her mother before her and hercause.
They were all not nice women andI've worked really hard to not
(46:21):
only be a nice woman but to onlyhave nice women in my life and
that's, in my opinion, likethere's a huge like wound on the
feminine.
And I think there's somethingabout, like this space that I'm
in right now physically and thatthat translates into what I do
for work and then the people Ientertain myself like you know
what I'm saying.
Like it's no coincidence to methat I found a group of
(46:42):
intuitive, feminine, strongwomen, all having similar makeup
that I do at this point in mylife when I have been nothing
but all of my trauma has beeninflicted me by the feminine
life, when I have been nothingbut all of my trauma has been
inflicted me by by the feminine.
And now here comes you guys and, like the rest of my friends
and the rest of like, I work insuch a feminine based field.
You know, sorry, I'm like atangent.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
Can I reflect something back on you, rachel?
I think out of out of thisgroup, you are the one who I
think is most understanding ofyour own problems, and you just
target the hell out of it andyou go right into what is the
exact problem and you go rightafter it.
Whereas I get, I swirl, I'mlike all the problems turn into
one big problem.
I don't know what to go or whatto do, but you, you are so
laser focused on what is thisone specific problem and what
(47:30):
tools do I have to fix it,because you are so like that.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
I do, I like it, I, you know, I, you guys remember
Hercules, like the movieHercules.
I feel like that's that's whatI do.
I feel like we're, we're likethe, the we've, or at least
that's what I do Like I'm thereader of the, so I do
appreciate that, cause I that'strue.
It's just the vulnerability andlike, like, because a lot of
(47:56):
what I do because I'm such anenergy-based worker and I work
with people that all do gothrough similar stuff I do that
sometimes my healing is justbeing really present with my kid
, and sometimes that's just likeordering, takeout, lighting
some incense and like putting ona simmer pot.
If, like, if I, because thereare like mundane things I do in
my craft that like I, becausewhen I put my makeup on or my
skincare, I draw sigils, so Ican't sit here and say I don't
do anything like there are likemundane things I do in my craft
that like I, because when I putmy makeup on or my skincare, I
draw sigils, so I can't sit hereand say I don't do anything.
(48:16):
Like there are things I do.
But damn fuck, y'all make meconfront my shit, and I love you
all so much.
Speaker 4 (48:25):
I think it sounds like you're doing like so much
deep work and I think, likeacross the board, like anything
that we're doing, like we'redoing it because it resonates
with us and you've integratedthese practices just so much
into your daily habits thatyou're not like, oh, this is the
time I carve out to do this.
It's like you're doing it allthe time and that's maybe why
(48:46):
it's hard for you to pinpoint it.
But like I think it's importantto remember like we're not
doing any of this stuff becausewe have to fix ourselves.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
We're doing it to come home to ourselves.
I don't think there's a betterway to end that episode Mic drop
, goodness, that was amazing.
I just want to thank you all somuch for being so.
I literally have nothing elseto say, just just summarize it
all.
So, thank you so much, holymacaroni.
(49:19):
So great to see you all hereagain today, and then I'm sure
we'll be together all soon.
But thank you all for yourvulnerability, your honesty,
your transparency and how you'refeeling what's going on, and
hopefully our listeners arewalking away with some tools
that they can put into theirschool belt to help them through
this chaotic journey too.
So, sending love to all of youand all of the listeners out
(49:39):
there Absolutely Bye, guys, bye.
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