May 19, 2025 • 39 mins
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What happens when physical fitness meets energy healing? Ashley Weir's journey from fitness queen to Reiki master offers a compelling answer. As the owner of Indigo Sage and Balance, Ashley has discovered that true wellness requires more than just pushing your body to its limits—it demands attention to your energetic and spiritual well-being too.
Ashley's story begins with a familiar narrative: a young athlete focused intensely on physical performance, struggling with body dysmorphia and using exercise as her primary outlet for emotional processing. "I'd push myself physically," she reflects, "and I was like, 'I need to just keep pushing myself and pushing myself.'" But something was missing. Despite her physical strength, anxiety and depression were constant companions, and the constant "go mode" left little room for genuine healing.
The turning point came through therapy, when a counselor helped Ashley see that running seven miles to process frustration wasn't addressing her deeper needs. Learning to simply "be" for twenty minutes proved challenging for someone always on the move, but it opened the door to meditation, yoga, and eventually Reiki—a healing modality she approached initially with healthy skepticism.
Now certified as a Holy Fire Reiki master, Ashley describes working with "life force energy" to help tune clients' energy systems to their highest frequencies. During sessions, she's guided by intuition, often sensing areas needing attention through physical sensations in her own body. "I feel it in my hands, I feel it in my chakras," she explains. "When I'm working on someone, I can feel if someone's having something in their heart chakra, I'll start having pain in my chest."
Perhaps most valuable is Ashley's guidance on energy clearing—essential for anyone who absorbs others' emotions throughout their day. Through visualization, salt baths, sound healing, or simply setting conscious boundaries, we can release what doesn't serve us and create space for what does. "You don't need to carry somebody else's energy with you," she reminds us, a particularly powerful message for empaths and those in helping professions.
Ready to explore how combining physical fitness with energy work might transform your wellness journey? Ashley's experience shows that when we honor both our physical strength and our energetic nature, true balance becomes possible. As she wisely puts it: "Trust yourself and trust your gut and whatever life is telling you is the right path for you."
What is Usui/Holy Fire Reiki?
Usui/Holy Fire Reiki is a modern evolution of traditional Reiki, a Japanese healing technique that promotes relaxation, stress reduction, and emotional well-being through gentle energy work. Rooted in the original teachings of Mikao Usui, this practice has been enhanced with Holy Fire energy—a refined and powerful form of spiritual healing introduced by the International Center for Reiki Training. Holy Fire Reiki is known for its deeply soothing, purifying, and empowering effects, helping to release energetic blockages, support emotional healing, and foster a sense of inner peace. It works intuitively, guiding energy to where it is most needed for the highest good of the recipient.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome.
Today, my inspiring guest isAshley Weir, owner of Indigo,
sage and Balance.
Ashley is not only a dedicatedfitness coach, but also a Reiki,
a certified Reiki master in theYusai Holy Fire Reiki.
Her mission is to fostervitality and inner harmony
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through a dynamic combination ofmovement and energy healing.
Ashley's journey into wellnessis rooted in a passion for
sports and fitness, which hasbeen an integral part of her
life from her youth through hercollege years.
Since 2012, she has beenenthusiastically coaching
various group fitness formats,including functional fitness,
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boxing, boot camp and HIIT.
For Ashley, fitness is not justa profession.
It's a transformative,empowering outlet for growth and
resilience.
In 2021, ashley recognized thenecessity of addressing
emotional and spiritualwell-being, which led her to
embrace Reiki as a means ofachieving holistic health.
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This shift marked the beginningof a profound personal healing
journey, culminating in herReiki Master Certification last
year, in 2024.
Through her practice, ashleyhas found renewed peace and
clarity, which she nowpassionately shares with others.
So Ashley is someone who hasbeen a part of my life for many,
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many years.
On and off, our circles havealways crossed, and it is not
until just recently, in the lastcouple of years, that we have
gotten close.
So I am so excited to share herwith you.
So join us, as Ashley sharesher insight of combining fitness
with the restorative power ofenergy work, and this work can
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empower you to reduce stress,build strength and reconnect
with your inner self on yourunique wellness journey.
So here's Ashley.
Welcome to Empowered Ease,ashley.
Hello, how are you doing, jenny?
Good, I'm so happy you're here.
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So ashley and I just went towhat was the fair called it was
a metaphysical fair.
I didn't want to I keep wantingto say psychic fair.
I don't know why, but yeah, wewent to a medical metaphysical
fair and we both had.
I had two readings done.
How many did you have done?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I had two done too.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
You had two done too.
Okay, so Ashley and I, well,you probably heard a little bit,
but we actually our circles,have intertwined like for a long
, long time since high school,in and out, and we have never
been like close, close, butwe've been.
We've had close, close friendsthat we have been close, close
with, and also some mixed familystuff.
So, um, now that we'veconnected in our older age, we
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have a ton in common and, um,ashley has a budding Reiki
business.
Um, so tell us a little bitabout that, ms Ashley.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Well, it's budding as it's starting.
So, I got into Reiki in 2021.
I had a friend that she owns achiropractic office and she said
I have a Reiki practitioner,you should come see her.
So I researched what Reiki wasbecause I had never heard of it
and I was very skeptical aboutit, and went and saw this lady
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had a.
Really it was an interestingexperience and so I decided I
wanted to go back and do itagain and then she offered Reiki
training.
So I went through her Reiki onetraining and then, once that
was completed, I kind of put iton the side and I still, like,
went to Reiki sessions, but Ididn't actually go on with
getting my certification andafter a few years it just kind
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of came up again of healing andenergy work and I met an old
coach of mine from grade schoolwho was a Reiki master and she's
like oh yeah, I teach this, andso I just felt like you know
what?
I think this is somethingtelling me I need to go through
the whole thing thing.
So I finished my holy fireReiki training in March of this
year and I'm slowly starting totake clients now and have done a
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couple open houses at myfriend's chiropractic office and
so that's what got me into it.
It's like just keeps coming backlike us intertwining Reiki.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Kept coming back in like Like you need to start
doing this Well, one thing I onereason I really love you coming
on to talk about Reiki becausefrom knowing you I know that
like so I was a skeptic andactually Ashley is the first
person that's done Reiki on mewhere I think I've been open and
had like an experience.
So I want to talk to you aboutyour experience.
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But I also want to say that thereason I love this with you is
because from knowing you for solong, you're not like a woo-woo
girl.
I know Like you've never been awoo-woo girl.
It's like out in the likeyou've been pretty rational,
pretty straightforward, likeyou're pretty like grounded,
like I don't know how would youdescribe yourself Because I
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think without people knowing you, it may like this is not this
kind of came out in the blue.
I guess a little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, I would say that.
So I've always been a littlebit, I think.
Growing up I always had kind ofthings like experiences
throughout my life and I wouldjust say, oh, that's not
anything, and I just would pushit down and push it down,
because I was raised in aCatholic house and we just those
things weren't you didn't.
You know, that was justsomething in your mind, your
mind's playing tricks on you andI don't know.
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I just all of a sudden, I thinkI've had that moment when I got
a little older.
I work in a very roundedindustry as well.
I work in supply chain, sosomething like this was
different.
But I've always been fascinatedwith kind of the metaphysical
world and I just, for somereason, when this energy work
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started, I started reading moreabout it and getting a little
bit more interested in it.
And I think it was when Iactually got Reiki the first
time.
It was.
I had some visions andexperiences and it was
interesting and I was like thisis something.
So when I actually provideReiki, when I give Reiki and
practitioner Reiki for myclients, I have visions.
When I'm giving them Reiki,they have visions and I just
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started realizing that there'sall those things that were
happening to me when I wasprobably a kid, that I was
squashing down, were somethingtrying to talk to me and come to
me and I just decided thatmaybe I should just be more open
to it instead of so skeptical.
And that's kind of what got meinto pursuing this path and
getting away from feeling that Iguess kind of more the grounded
life and realizing like there'ssomething else out there.
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I've had that gift or whateverit is, whatever you want to call
it.
I think we all have the gift,but it's just more opening your
eyes to it and really trustingthat it's something coming in
and that you are.
You have a gift to kind of moveenergy and and see things that
in your mind I don't know how toexplain it.
If it's in your mind orwhatever it is, it's different
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for every person.
So, um, yeah, it's I thinkthat's the best way to describe
it is when you have Reiki orwhen you've gone through those
experiences.
It's I think that's the bestway to describe it is when you
have Reiki or when you've gonethrough those experiences.
It's different for everybody,it's not the same, so that's why
it's hard to quantify it, andso for me.
That's why I was, like, soskeptical of the entire field,
but I found it reallyinteresting and an interest is
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always a great spark to me,right?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
like it's really hard to talk about stuff like this,
like I've been a really I'm anurse, so, like science, I've
always been a very rationalperson, but where I found
healing is in things the donorshave explanations like for me it
started with yoga, yes, andthen it kept going.
It kept going like into otherthings and then recently I
listened to the telepathy tapesand freaked out and sent them to
Ashley was like, listen to this, but not just that.
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It's like it just affirms somethings I thought or felt before
and with Reiki it's the samething.
Like I opened myself up to it,I had I don't know if they were
visions, but like images came tome and that's something that's
been happening to me as I'vebeen diving more into like sound
therapy, reiki, energy work, orlike balancing my chakras, like
, um, I'm noticing, as I'm likeso I'm dedicated this year to
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myself when I do these things,like when I did that with you,
the things that you told me youwere feeling were things that I
have been working on and otherpeople had been feeling in other
practices specific to likeareas of my body and things like
that.
So it was like I didn't evenhave to tell you that you knew
so like things like that havebeen super affirming for me
personally.
Can you we talk a little bitabout what Reiki is, because I
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think that's something that,like a lot of us, we think we
know what it is or maybe we'renot sure.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
So Reiki it's just a healing modality.
It's just some people go tomassage, yoga, different things.
It's a healing modality that wecall.
It kind of calls them this lifeforce, energy, and that's kind
of what everyone has an energy.
So think of every cell in yourbody.
All of it is energy workingconstantly.
So the way a healer comes in iswe basically like I, when I go
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to work on someone, I set myintention for that practice
where I'm working with you.
I was setting my intention of Iwanted to help you with whatever
journey that you had.
That day you told me a couple ofthings that you wanted to work
on and so what I, you kind ofchannel in this energy through
you and the whole idea is, ifyou think of a tuning fork, it's
just trying to tune every cellin your body to the highest
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level of frequency and that kindof puts you into this more
healing pattern.
So if you think of, like, theparasympathetic state where you
are in rest, relaxation, that'swhy a lot of people feel very
rested and relaxed while they'regetting Reiki, because that's
the point of it.
It's like you are sitting here,you're laying down and the
Reiki practitioner is workingwith you and the idea is like
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get yourself into a fullyrelaxed state and then that
Reiki practitioner is channeling, as they're doing that, and
they're going to different partsof you and running, running
energy over your body to try andkind of almost tune that area,
so the chakras that run throughbasically your, your nervous
system, so that's where thosechakras go, all the way through
your nervous system.
And that's what they're doingis tuning those areas of your,
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of your body, to help kind ofget you to that full state of
relaxation so that you're inthat healing state.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Would you say you're working with like frequencies?
Would you say you're workingwith energy?
What?
How would you describe whatyou're working with?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I, I would call it, I call it the source or the.
It's like a life force, butyeah, it is.
It's like a frequency or energy.
You feel it, I feel it in myhand.
So, like I know, when I startworking on somebody, I'll say
and I'll tell myself, like where, you know, where should I go?
And I just let my intuitionguide me.
And so, if you're working onsomething, when you told me what
you, you needed me to work on,I, it guided me right to your
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shock, or the certain shockerthat I needed to start with, and
it's different for every singleperson.
So I'll usually start there.
I work through their whole fieldand work around, and then
that's where I don't know.
That's the best way I candescribe it.
It's like an energy orfrequency, but it's intuition.
So that's why it's hard to makeit a tangible discussion,
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because it's something that Ifeel.
I feel it in my body, I feel itin my hands, I feel it in my
chakras.
When I'm working on someone, Ican feel if someone's having
something in their heart chakra,I'll start having pain in my
chest and the pain can bedifferent.
It just depends on who, what'sgoing on with them, and I'll
start feeling it in differentareas of my body.
So then I know like, okay, Ineed to go there first.
That's what's going on.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
So I'm hearing you're kind of like tuning into
someone first.
You're kind of like tuning intowhere they are and then working
with what you're finding.
That's really cool.
I love that, so it's so cool.
So what kind of I want to talkabout?
Like, what kind of led you toyour spiritual journey?
Because I think that for a lotof us it's like not necessarily
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in the ways you would thinkright, and I have a guess of
what yours is, but I don'treally know your story.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Just with my background.
I was an athlete growing up andreally into fitness.
I mean I started getting intofitness and weightlifting when I
was younger, so in grade schoolI, and then in high school.
So I started running kind ofweightlifting when I was in
seventh grade.
Then when I got to high school,it was all about physical
fitness and so it was all aboutand I had a lot of body
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dysmorphia issues as well.
So I think that's somethingthat people that know me really
well know that about me.
But I just always saw myself aslike I was always unhappy with
the way I looked and I wasfrustrated.
So I'd push myself physicallyand that's and I'm like you know
what I need to just keeppushing myself and pushing
myself.
And as I kind of got older, Istarted realizing like there was
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a break in my spirituality andI mean I had my beliefs and I
had, you know, physical fitness,but it was bringing it all
together and it was starting tocause like emotional and mental
issues.
So I also have depression andanxiety throughout my life where
I never thought it was thatuntil I got a little older and
went to a counselor and Irealized like, oh it's, it's
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anxiety, it's depression, andpart of it is my outlet was
working out and my outlet wassports and competition.
And I realized when I startedgoing to a counselor I think in
2017 or 18, um, this was moreabout me and there were some
things that I needed to work oninternally and so that kind of
started that journey.
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It was actually I had a reallywonderful counselor and it was
someone who really connectedwith me and kind of saw what was
going on and helped me andguided me towards like hey, you
know, it's interesting that youchoose to work out or go run
seven miles and then it's notbut that's but you're still
frustrated.
And so I think she was helpingme understand of about
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meditating and like sitting backand hey, maybe try yoga, slow
down, you don't have to go andburn 500 calories to like work
out your frustration.
Some of it is just sitting backand like just being for 20
minutes, which I'm always a goer.
Let's go get a go.
So I realized like there waswork that I needed to do because
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I was not comfortable justbeing and I always had to be
going.
So that kind of started thathealing journey and it just
turned into something else andthen kept going and kept going
and now I've got to the Reiki,like I said, in 2021, and then
became, you know, started toactually working on people and
I'm slowly growing that businessbecause I can teach it as well.
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So I'd like to go into that.
Where I can help guide.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I want you to teach me.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yes, I would love to, and part of that too is, I
think, growing up and and evenin, like I go down one field for
work.
So, like I, you know corporateroles and supply chain and
that's great.
I mean, I had to go for acareer and I'm doing that but
I've always felt like it wasn't,I wasn't connected to a purpose
.
I have my family and I havethat purpose there, but it's
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also like I felt like there wassomething more that I should be
doing, and part of that is likehelping people.
So, even with that, it's likealso guiding of hey, I'm
struggling with finding mypurpose in being there and being
able to talk to somebody aboutthat, because I know what that's
like.
I know what it feels like tojust feel lost and not sure what
am I supposed to be doing,because I feel like there's more
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to my life than just going towork every day.
I want to do something, I wantto give back, and so this was
something that, when I opened itup the first time, I was able
to do Reiki on somebody, I waslike, wow, I feel so empowered.
I felt like I really helpedsomebody out and it's exciting.
It's exciting to help people,especially because I know what
it feels like.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Yeah, it's like I love this because I like I don't
know if I saw the theme untilnow, but like it's like this.
I think it's an age also likewell, it's like the
perimenopause age is like thejourney inward, but it's like a
lot of my guests on here, it'slike it is.
It's the whatever has gottenthem to start looking internally
.
It's like the softening we'reall looking for these.
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External, we're pushing.
We're doing all this like hardwork, but then when we stop, we
soften and we turn in.
That's when we find like whatwe're, what really shines, what
really makes us light up, whatwe love.
And that's kind of the workyou're doing when you're working
with Reiki.
Right, you're working withpeople, helping people to turn
in as well.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Yeah, it's.
It's a lot of times people aregoing through transitional
periods in their life or justthey're struggling to maybe they
feel clouded or they feelfrustrated with something, and
so if they come in yeah, stuck Ithink that's a good, a good way
to describe it so they'll getReiki or go I mean even massage,
like those different types ofhealing modalities.
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They'll go try and kind ofstart seeking out, like I need
something to help me, kind ofcalm, and with Reiki you're
laying there for 45 minutessometimes, sometimes an hour,
and think about how often,besides sleeping at night, are
you just quietly resting andjust not go go going.
So it's an a great opportunityfor deep meditation, while you
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have a Reiki practitioner doingsome energy work over you and
and so some of it you can touch,and there's some parts of like
my touch, your like head or yourcrown chakra, um others you I
can just hold my hands over andI can feel the energy moving,
and so the whole idea is to keepit, to get, like you, to a high
level of vibration throughoutyour whole body and kind of
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clear some of those spaces thateither the energy is not moving
or it's kind of it's maybe alittle bit broken and so it's
just, and that either the energyis not moving or it's kind of.
It's maybe a little bit brokenand so it's just, and that's the
opportunity for them to likeenjoy just some rest, relaxation
while someone's working overthem.
But part of it, too, is likeyou said they're, they're
seeking outward.
But I think you said it verywell earlier is when you said
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all of a sudden we turn insidebecause the answers that you're
looking for you already know.
It's just having thatconfidence to always stop
looking to other people and toother things to find the answer.
A lot of it is just sittingback and just getting
comfortable with who you are andwhat you really enjoy learning
to trust that, like internalintuition telling you or like
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firing you up in some way.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, yeah, yes, I love that.
I love modalities like this too, because even though I'm like a
huge advocate for therapy, Ihave tons of therapists that
come on this and we'll continueto have tons of therapists.
There's just so much, only somuch work you can do talking.
You know what I mean.
There's so there's other kindsof work that can be done that
they're like words can't dojustice to, and some of that is
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like energy work and you knowlike things get stuck in your
body, like I can't tell you howmany guests have referenced that
book the body keeps the score,but it's true, that's a great
book.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
It is so true.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Hold emotions in certain areas of our body.
We hold things we also like,hold around things.
We don't want to deal with them.
Of our body, we hold things wealso like, hold around things
and we don't want to deal withthem.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
So so Reiki is so important for helping to get the
flow like things flowing?
I think so.
Is that?
So what are some things thatyou do to kind of help you when
you're struggling or when youare looking to kind of break
through something or transformthat transform, but I mean like
when you're working throughsomething in your life?
What are some of the practicesthat you look for?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Well, I do a lot of different things.
I find myself as like a veryeclectic person where something
doesn't suit me, forever, likeI'm not like the person that has
like one go to.
But I have a lot of differentthings.
So it's like an emotional angst, hot yoga I feel like I have to
burn, literally burn it off,and like now, I live pretty far
from any hot yoga.
So last year I was reallyfrustrated.
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I dug a humongous garden patch,like I physically went out
there and exhausted myself.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Nature's amazing for that, though.
That's like there's a lot ofgrounding.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
That happens when you're out in nature, yeah, and
now, every year I make it betterand that thing's like my
passion project, like that's mysoul and I get it's like the
same time of year every yearwhere I need to burn off the
yanks, cause it's like thewinter that I'm burning off, and
so it's like the perfect timeto go out there and go ham.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
So it works.
Is that part of your practicetoo?
Isn't that like your monthlythat you guys talk about?
Hey, you know summer's comingin, winter's coming out when you
know spring's coming here.
So there's like differentthings that you guys do to
transition.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and I, I just, I always
try to listen to my body.
I feel like that's one thingI've always been pretty good at
is like staying in connectionwith my body, what it's telling
me which, as a very flighty,airy person, I don't know how I
have been able to do that, butit has helped me greatly Um,
because sometimes I just like,honestly, have slept for a week
straight too, if that's what mybody was like exhausted, when,
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when, through the years that Iwas really burnt out, I feel
like one year of my relationshipwith my husband I spent
sleeping on the couch and all ofmy free time.
But I also think that it wasafter a great healing where I
finally felt safe and so my bodywas like finally able to rest.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
So it's all kinds of things, but I like, and I like
that you bring up the burnouttoo, cause I I didn't mention
that but um, with work as well,I feel a couple of years ago,
especially during COVID you know, I work in supply chain, so
imagine that we got hit prettyhard as well, trying to move
product all over the world, andit is just you got, I just got
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to a point of just full burnoutand I and I still feel it.
I mean, I still feel it hit meat times and I realized, man, I
really need to take a step backwith work, like I, I was putting
so much into it and I love it.
I just wanted to make sure thatI'm also like finding time for
myself, and that's when Istarted kind of looking for what
can I do to help myself heal.
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And so massage was great andyoga, but then it started
expanding.
I was like I want to connectmore, I guess, connect the
spiritual side of myself too,and find out not just only
physically, but kind of get thattripod of your, like your, your
mental, emotional and physicalstate and connect those together
.
And so that's where some ofthat energy work came in.
But it, the burnout I mean itis it's rough.
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It is rough.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
I feel like so many people are feeling it these days
too.
There's so much going on.
Women carry so much likeeverybody's, like dual income
households, like there's just somuch going on like everybody is
feeling it, and it's just somuch going on Like everybody is
feeling it, and it's really hardin those moments to choose
yourself which is exactly whatyou need to do.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Well, the more that you you are comfortable in your
own skin and that you areworking on yourself, the better
you are for everybody else inyour life, because you're in a
better state.
Cause I know when I'm gettingto that ramp up portion, I'm
starting to get snappy and justlike and and not not who I want
to be.
So that's where I will do likemeditation.
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Before I jumped on this, Iactually took a bunch of my
little crystals.
I had cleared them and putReiki into them me too because
we bought crystals at our faircrystals.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
We bought crystals together.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
But I was doing some meditation as well to kind of
ground myself.
And when I run I mean this issound silly, but I was running
yesterday and when I went for myrun I was, you know, calling on
the energy source and askingfor the ability for that energy
to run through my chakras andclear me.
And that's like a big part oflike that's how I sometimes will
heal.
I'll be like all right, well,I'm going to work out, I'll do a
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little healing myself, go run.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
I love that you said that, cause that's something I
wanted to say on the podcastthat I got reminded of today is
about how clear important it isto clear energy.
So this is something I'm newlytrying to do as of the past
month, because I worked, we justworked with another coach over
the last month with Ashley knowsabout, and I'm going to have
her on the podcast soon.
This awesome experience I didwith another coach, she'll come
up.
But one of the things she toldme was like you have to find a
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way to get rid of all the energythat you absorb in a day when
you go to the hospital, likebecause I was just talking to
her about like sensations and mybody and all this, and she's
like sounds like you're not andI'm like, no, I don't, I'm not
clearing my energy.
But today I went and I had thisreading and the woman told me
the same thing.
She's like hospitals are sotoxic and so heavy, like you
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have to make a conscious effortto clear that because it's a lot
to carry, and so it just.
It's something that's beenresonating with me and just
getting deeper and deeper.
And so I want to say thatbecause I want a lot of nurses
out there to think about that,like we say, like we leave our
stuff at the door or whatever,but consciously making an effort
at some point when you walk outof there, to like maybe do a
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body scan or something and justphysically or not physically,
visually, like imagine thisenergy, giving it back to the
earth and getting it out ofyourself, because there's a lot
of energies we're dealing withall day and a lot of crazy stuff
.
So, and honestly, we're not theonly ones.
That's.
All I can relate to ishealthcare, but I'm sure the
environment is the same.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
And I want to point out that the person that she was
went to for reading that toldher to clear, is the lady that
taught me, did the Reiki mastertraining with me for Holy Fire.
She's also a physical therapistand she's been a physical
therapist for years, so sheworks in that field and she also
does energy work on the side,so she does understand, like,
the depths and the heaviness ofworking with different patients.
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So something that you can thinkabout when you're clearing, for
example, when I'm running, ifI'm trying to clear, sometimes
I'll say, hey, if, if thisrelationship, any relationships
that no longer serve me and I nolonger serve them, please sever
the energetic tie to that.
Oh yeah, that was a goodbecause it opens space.
It opens space for your energyfield to accept the, the
energies that you need in yourlife and the people that you
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need in your life, and it opensspace for them because they
don't need to be tied to you.
If you, if you, don't benefitone another, then there's no
need for them to be tied to you.
Uh, some other things when you,you can ground, you can use
salt, you can take magnesiumbaths um, water is very good for
clearing, as sometimes, when Iget done with clients, it is two
, three, one, two, three and itjust kind of cuts, it severs
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that tide at them.
Because that was growing up andI'm sure you're very similar
because you're you're veryempath, you're, you're an empath
, I can tell.
But I would walk into a room andI always struggled being around
a big group of people and I waslike man, I was in a good mood
and I'd walk in and I'd feeloverwhelmed and it was because
there's so much energy coming atme and I was feeling other
people's anxiety and frustrationand I was like, oh man, like
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that person's really frustrated.
I don't know why, I know that,but I know they are and it just
was overwhelming at times and Istarted realizing, oh, I am
absorbing other people's energyand I don't need to.
So I put a block up when I walkinto some of the larger spaces
where I'll just I'll say, okay,blocks up, I need to block
myself, my energy field fromother people, and it's nothing
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against anyone, it's just that Idon't need to carry somebody
else's energy with me, likethat's, and you don't need to
carry somebody else's energywith you either, it's so.
That's something to think about.
It helps.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
It's like being intentional about it setting an
intention for that space, whichI love because it's not any
different than like how proathletes visualize success or
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
It's visualization.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Yeah, it's huge being intentional working that.
I love that.
So here you actually brought upa great question.
I wanted to ask you on herebecause I think maybe, like
Ricky, it's just like a newerthing, especially in our area
where we live, the midwest.
Like when I went out west itwas much more like people were
doing that 10 years ago.
It was more accepted, but here Ifeel, like it's slow growing,
right, all these like new agethings are slow growing.
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But what can Reiki help with?
Like what kind of people do youthink what kind of journeys
that people are on, or where canReiki really help people, or
what kind of people can reallyReiki really have it make a
difference for, I think?
For one, I'll say people needto be open to it.
Right?
That's what I've heard about alot of these things.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Yeah, if you, if you go in and you're very closed off
to it, it's it's an intelligentforce.
It's not going to work on youif you are not open to it.
It's just so if you, I think alot of it is going in and making
sure that you are open and thatyou're just like.
You know what.
I'm just going to try it, seehow it goes and and even if you
want to do a little research,research, reikiorg is a great
resource.
(27:31):
You can get on there.
They have the history, thebackground, all of the
information, what to expect.
I'm sure you can watch YouTubevideos to have, like, what to
expect when you go into a reikisession.
It is really good for anyonewho is looking for maybe an
external, another or anotherlayer of healing like modality
yoga and meditation.
You're like I just wantsomething else.
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It's something interesting totry.
I would say, just try it, andif it's not for you, it's not
for you, that's okay, but youknow, be open to trying it.
So I think anyone going throughthose times in their life where
they're maybe feeling a littlebit heavy I know when I need
Reiki is when I'm I just feelheavy, like my energy field
feels heavy.
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Everything feels heavy.
I will tell you, the first timeI had it I walked away and I
felt like I like 10 pounds ofjust stress like kind of lifted
off of me and I remember goingWhoa, like it was so strange and
it.
But it felt amazing because Iwalked away thinking like man,
this is amazing.
I actually just feel likelighter.
So it's something.
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Sorry, my dog's in the back, no.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
I love it.
Luda's been on several times.
She's not in here right now.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, um, so it's.
I think for anyone who is oneopen to it, they're looking for
another way to kind of help justheal, their heal, whatever's
going on in their life, maybesomething they're in a
transitional part of their lifeor a transformational part of
their life where they're justtrying to seeking, like they're
on their own spiritual journeyor their just own journey in
general, where they're likethere's something else out there
that I I am looking for, Iwould say getting into some of
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the healing arts.
There's reiki, there's pranichealing.
There's a lot of different artsthat you can get into and a lot
of different modalities thatyou can get into, but Reiki is
just something that it's reallyfor anyone, if you're open to it
, I would say.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I love that.
I love that Now, so that you'restarting to see clients where
and how can people find you?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
I'll send my email, and then I have my phone number
as well that I can share but youcan get ahold of me right now I
will.
I'm starting to see them atStages Wellness.
So that's in downtownBelleville.
I can also, yes, belleville,illinois.
I've gone to some friends'houses.
Happy to do that as well Ifit's local.
But and I also I work full time, so usually I'm on the weekends
(29:50):
when I'm available.
But Sage's Wellness is one thatI'm going to start seeing
clients at and it's like I said,it's slowly starting out.
So this is you're seeing me atthe beginning of my journey.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
You're going to be a little nervous.
Of course, Say your email forpeople that may not want to look
up the show notes.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
IndigoSageBalance at gmailcom.
So the business is Indigo Sageand Balance is what I'm calling
it.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I love it, I love it, love it, love it.
Okay, ashley, I ask everybody,what's your go-to self-care when
things are like out of control?
Speaker 2 (30:26):
I control, I would say meditation and then I love
doing a magnesium bath and justreading a book while I know
sounds so silly, but I listen tolike chakra clearing music on
Spotify.
I'll just turn it on, it haslike different Hertz levels, and
so I'll just listen to that,read a book and just relax,
(30:48):
because sometimes and that'swhen I'm like really burnout
Like I just need 30 minutes tojust be by myself.
So that's my big thing.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
I love that I have found myself more and more doing
a lot of sound healing withoutwords.
I think it has to do with, likehaving an overstimulated
nervous system, but I'm loving alot.
Have you ever been on insighttimer?
Do you have insight timer?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yes, I have been using that one for years too.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Okay, me too, and I always like give it a club
because it's free and has likelike thousands and thousands of
free content, of all this stuffwe're talking about in courses
and all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
And I love sound healing.
Sound healing is amazing.
I I've gone to severaldifferent sound healing sessions
.
I have just been blown away.
Every time I go I just I reallyenjoy it.
It's something differentSometimes, if it can be really
intense and it's a little bitoverwhelming, but it it's
amazing, Like you can feel theenergy working through you and
(31:43):
it's it's fantastic.
If you ever want to try one, ifyou have a sound healing near
you, go try it out.
It's cute.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
I'm going to talk about it with the next coach.
But I just went through anintense sound healing but it
made me want to do Reikiafterwards, like you know what I
mean.
It made me feel more open tothat.
Actually, you know what I mean.
I feel like now that I've donethat and like shook some things
loose, that Reiki might actuallybe more, I might get more out
of it, because I feel like I'velike opened myself a little more
(32:11):
with the sound therapy, so Wellwhen you were back with the
card reader today, the lady washad just come out of a Reiki
session at the metaphysical fairand she said she goes.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
I had sound healing and then I had Reiki and the
Reiki practitioner said it wasso intense even doing Reiki on
her because she had just gottenlike this vibrating yeah, she
said oh, the Reiki session waseven intense.
As the practitioner she's likeI could tell she had been
through something.
So you're bringing up anawesome point of.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
It's probably a great to duel them together if you
can yeah, I think a lot of theseum of these like healing
modalities combined actuallyhelp like benefit each other In
my experience, like yoga isamazing for connecting to your
body and that, just for me, hasopened the door to many, many
more other modalities that Ididn't even know.
(33:02):
I would like like sound healingand all that stuff.
So and like, the first time Ihad Reiki was at a yoga retreat.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
So, oh, that's right, you told me about that, yeah,
but I didn't know what it was,and nothing happened.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
but I wasn't open to it because I thought she was
weird that she came up to me anddid it, so like I felt nothing
and I was totally skeptic.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Well, that's a big thing too.
It's having the permission andmaking sure hey, is this okay?
Is this what you?
Are you giving me permission toprovide, to give you Reiki.
I think it's always having thatrapport with people and being
very respectful of theirboundaries and their space,
Cause it's you don't ever wantto have that experience where
someone has a terribleexperience because of something
like that, or whether you'relike I didn't feel anything.
(33:42):
It was just really strange,just because they, their
boundary was up and their wallwas up, because they weren't
comfortable with you being intheir space.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Yeah, and I think that's another reason I wanted
to have you on too is because Ididn't really know what it was
at that point.
It's not really until, like youand I talked, I really
understood a little bit moreabout kind of where it is or
where it comes from.
Then, when you and I did, I wassuper open to it.
When her, I'm like what is up,I know.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Who are you Like?
Oh man, my head was spinningand when you're up by my crown
chakra, I was like I know Icould feel it.
So and I think that's somethingtoo to point out with all of
the different like yoga andsound healing and everything I.
I teach fitness classes as wellat a gym in downtown and that's
something that I was like, oh,I'd love to like figure out how
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to incorporate all of that,because I know what it's like to
put a lot of focus intophysical fitness and there's
like there was a disconnect.
I was like, and so when Istarted adding in meditation,
yoga and doing different healingmodalities, I it started
helping me open up a little bitmore and I just felt like an
ease over my kind of spirit.
(34:48):
I was like, okay, you know I cando the physical fitness, I can
do, you know all of it and itjust balanced out my entire, I
guess my life really, at the endof the day, it's it's trying to
find balance and I struggleevery day.
Don't worry, I struggle everyday with balance.
Everyone does every, everysingle day.
I am not totally balanced allthe time.
I'm not.
Right now I feel very balanced,but tomorrow I can tell you
(35:10):
I'll wake up and I won't feelbalanced when I'm trying to get
my kids to school.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
So right, immediately off.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Everybody's got to get out of the house and no one
is ready.
All right, this is great.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
I love that.
I love that.
Well, it's been so fun havingyou on.
I'm so happy to come on Um surethat we will do this again,
because oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
So I'm excited.
Thank you for having me on, andI'm really excited for your
coaching business too.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Thank you.
Is there anything you want toleave us with before we go?
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Oh gosh, you put me on the spot here.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
You don't have to have anything.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
I think I think something I don't know.
I feel like I need to sharethis Having the confidence
within yourself when you haveskeptics around you every day
and that's okay, like we're allon different journeys, we're all
doing different things and youdon't have to agree with what I
do I don't have to agree,whatever it is, I'm on my own
journey and I think that it'sreally important for ourselves
(36:08):
is to have that confidence inyourself of if this is right for
you or whatever path is rightfor so long.
So just trust yourself andtrust your gut and whatever you
(36:33):
know life is telling you is theright path for you.
Just trust it.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
I love that and I'll add to that and say and then
surround yourself with peoplethat believe in you and are
doing similar things, because ithelps you keep.
Maintain that, because it'ssuper hard when it's and it's
okay that people around youdon't get it.
They don't need to leave yourlife, but then you need to add
people in your life who do sothat you can keep doing what you
(36:57):
need to do.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
So you're like a sounding board for me too, and
I'm like, okay, I'll hear fromyou.
And I'm like, okay, it'scalling me back.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
You too.
You're one of my circle.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
I mean, like you're my community of people that hold
me up, so that's one of thereasons I wanted to have you on
here too.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Well, thank you, sorry for the door slamming in
the back, but my sons arefighting right now so I didn't
hear it.
I think I heard my husbandcoughing earlier.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
It's okay, oh, I was like there goes the balance
again you know, I use somesoftware.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
It might not even be on here.
We'll see what happens.
Okay, all right, bye.
We'll say bye now stop ramblingokay.
Welcome.
Today, my inspiring guest isAshley Weir, owner of Indigo,
sage and Balance.
Ashley is not only a dedicatedfitness coach, but also a Reiki,
a certified Reiki master in theYusai Holy Fire Reiki.
Her mission is to fostervitality and inner harmony
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through a dynamic combination ofmovement and energy healing.
Ashley's journey into wellnessis rooted in a passion for
sports and fitness, which hasbeen an integral part of her
life from her youth through hercollege years.
Since 2012, she has beenenthusiastically coaching
various group fitness formats,including functional fitness,
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boxing, boot camp and HIIT.
For Ashley, fitness is not justa profession.
It's a transformative,empowering outlet for growth and
resilience.
In 2021, ashley recognized thenecessity of addressing
emotional and spiritualwell-being, which led her to
embrace Reiki as a means ofachieving holistic health.
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This shift marked the beginningof a profound personal healing
journey, culminating in herReiki Master Certification last
year, in 2024.
Through her practice, ashleyhas found renewed peace and
clarity, which she nowpassionately shares with others.
So Ashley is someone who hasbeen a part of my life for many,
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many years.
On and off, our circles havealways crossed, and it is not
until just recently, in the lastcouple of years, that we have
gotten close.
So I am so excited to share herwith you.
So join us, as Ashley sharesher insight of combining fitness
with the restorative power ofenergy work, and this work can
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empower you to reduce stress,build strength and reconnect
with your inner self on yourunique wellness journey.
So here's Ashley.
Welcome to Empowered Ease,ashley.
Hello, how are you doing, jenny?
Good, I'm so happy you're here.
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So ashley and I just went towhat was the fair called it was
a metaphysical fair.
I didn't want to I keep wantingto say psychic fair.
I don't know why, but yeah, wewent to a medical metaphysical
fair and we both had.
I had two readings done.
How many did you have done?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I had two done too.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
You had two done too.
Okay, so Ashley and I, well,you probably heard a little bit,
but we actually our circles,have intertwined like for a long
, long time since high school,in and out, and we have never
been like close, close, butwe've been.
We've had close, close friendsthat we have been close, close
with, and also some mixed familystuff.
So, um, now that we'veconnected in our older age, we
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have a ton in common and, um,ashley has a budding Reiki
business.
Um, so tell us a little bitabout that, ms Ashley.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Well, it's budding as it's starting.
So, I got into Reiki in 2021.
I had a friend that she owns achiropractic office and she said
I have a Reiki practitioner,you should come see her.
So I researched what Reiki wasbecause I had never heard of it
and I was very skeptical aboutit, and went and saw this lady
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had a.
Really it was an interestingexperience and so I decided I
wanted to go back and do itagain and then she offered Reiki
training.
So I went through her Reiki onetraining and then, once that
was completed, I kind of put iton the side and I still, like,
went to Reiki sessions, but Ididn't actually go on with
getting my certification andafter a few years it just kind
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of came up again of healing andenergy work and I met an old
coach of mine from grade schoolwho was a Reiki master and she's
like oh yeah, I teach this, andso I just felt like you know
what?
I think this is somethingtelling me I need to go through
the whole thing thing.
So I finished my holy fireReiki training in March of this
year and I'm slowly starting totake clients now and have done a
(04:13):
couple open houses at myfriend's chiropractic office and
so that's what got me into it.
It's like just keeps coming backlike us intertwining Reiki.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Kept coming back in like Like you need to start
doing this Well, one thing I onereason I really love you coming
on to talk about Reiki becausefrom knowing you I know that
like so I was a skeptic andactually Ashley is the first
person that's done Reiki on mewhere I think I've been open and
had like an experience.
So I want to talk to you aboutyour experience.
(04:41):
But I also want to say that thereason I love this with you is
because from knowing you for solong, you're not like a woo-woo
girl.
I know Like you've never been awoo-woo girl.
It's like out in the likeyou've been pretty rational,
pretty straightforward, likeyou're pretty like grounded,
like I don't know how would youdescribe yourself Because I
(05:02):
think without people knowing you, it may like this is not this
kind of came out in the blue.
I guess a little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, I would say that.
So I've always been a littlebit, I think.
Growing up I always had kind ofthings like experiences
throughout my life and I wouldjust say, oh, that's not
anything, and I just would pushit down and push it down,
because I was raised in aCatholic house and we just those
things weren't you didn't.
You know, that was justsomething in your mind, your
mind's playing tricks on you andI don't know.
(05:31):
I just all of a sudden, I thinkI've had that moment when I got
a little older.
I work in a very roundedindustry as well.
I work in supply chain, sosomething like this was
different.
But I've always been fascinatedwith kind of the metaphysical
world and I just, for somereason, when this energy work
(05:52):
started, I started reading moreabout it and getting a little
bit more interested in it.
And I think it was when Iactually got Reiki the first
time.
It was.
I had some visions andexperiences and it was
interesting and I was like thisis something.
So when I actually provideReiki, when I give Reiki and
practitioner Reiki for myclients, I have visions.
When I'm giving them Reiki,they have visions and I just
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started realizing that there'sall those things that were
happening to me when I wasprobably a kid, that I was
squashing down, were somethingtrying to talk to me and come to
me and I just decided thatmaybe I should just be more open
to it instead of so skeptical.
And that's kind of what got meinto pursuing this path and
getting away from feeling that Iguess kind of more the grounded
life and realizing like there'ssomething else out there.
(06:37):
I've had that gift or whateverit is, whatever you want to call
it.
I think we all have the gift,but it's just more opening your
eyes to it and really trustingthat it's something coming in
and that you are.
You have a gift to kind of moveenergy and and see things that
in your mind I don't know how toexplain it.
If it's in your mind orwhatever it is, it's different
(06:57):
for every person.
So, um, yeah, it's I thinkthat's the best way to describe
it is when you have Reiki orwhen you've gone through those
experiences.
It's I think that's the bestway to describe it is when you
have Reiki or when you've gonethrough those experiences.
It's different for everybody,it's not the same, so that's why
it's hard to quantify it, andso for me.
That's why I was, like, soskeptical of the entire field,
but I found it reallyinteresting and an interest is
(07:18):
always a great spark to me,right?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
like it's really hard to talk about stuff like this,
like I've been a really I'm anurse, so, like science, I've
always been a very rationalperson, but where I found
healing is in things the donorshave explanations like for me it
started with yoga, yes, andthen it kept going.
It kept going like into otherthings and then recently I
listened to the telepathy tapesand freaked out and sent them to
Ashley was like, listen to this, but not just that.
(07:42):
It's like it just affirms somethings I thought or felt before
and with Reiki it's the samething.
Like I opened myself up to it,I had I don't know if they were
visions, but like images came tome and that's something that's
been happening to me as I'vebeen diving more into like sound
therapy, reiki, energy work, orlike balancing my chakras, like
, um, I'm noticing, as I'm likeso I'm dedicated this year to
(08:04):
myself when I do these things,like when I did that with you,
the things that you told me youwere feeling were things that I
have been working on and otherpeople had been feeling in other
practices specific to likeareas of my body and things like
that.
So it was like I didn't evenhave to tell you that you knew
so like things like that havebeen super affirming for me
personally.
Can you we talk a little bitabout what Reiki is, because I
(08:25):
think that's something that,like a lot of us, we think we
know what it is or maybe we'renot sure.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
So Reiki it's just a healing modality.
It's just some people go tomassage, yoga, different things.
It's a healing modality that wecall.
It kind of calls them this lifeforce, energy, and that's kind
of what everyone has an energy.
So think of every cell in yourbody.
All of it is energy workingconstantly.
So the way a healer comes in iswe basically like I, when I go
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to work on someone, I set myintention for that practice
where I'm working with you.
I was setting my intention of Iwanted to help you with whatever
journey that you had.
That day you told me a couple ofthings that you wanted to work
on and so what I, you kind ofchannel in this energy through
you and the whole idea is, ifyou think of a tuning fork, it's
just trying to tune every cellin your body to the highest
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level of frequency and that kindof puts you into this more
healing pattern.
So if you think of, like, theparasympathetic state where you
are in rest, relaxation, that'swhy a lot of people feel very
rested and relaxed while they'regetting Reiki, because that's
the point of it.
It's like you are sitting here,you're laying down and the
Reiki practitioner is workingwith you and the idea is like
(09:39):
get yourself into a fullyrelaxed state and then that
Reiki practitioner is channeling, as they're doing that, and
they're going to different partsof you and running, running
energy over your body to try andkind of almost tune that area,
so the chakras that run throughbasically your, your nervous
system, so that's where thosechakras go, all the way through
your nervous system.
And that's what they're doingis tuning those areas of your,
(10:01):
of your body, to help kind ofget you to that full state of
relaxation so that you're inthat healing state.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Would you say you're working with like frequencies?
Would you say you're workingwith energy?
What?
How would you describe whatyou're working with?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I, I would call it, I call it the source or the.
It's like a life force, butyeah, it is.
It's like a frequency or energy.
You feel it, I feel it in myhand.
So, like I know, when I startworking on somebody, I'll say
and I'll tell myself, like where, you know, where should I go?
And I just let my intuitionguide me.
And so, if you're working onsomething, when you told me what
you, you needed me to work on,I, it guided me right to your
(10:37):
shock, or the certain shockerthat I needed to start with, and
it's different for every singleperson.
So I'll usually start there.
I work through their whole fieldand work around, and then
that's where I don't know.
That's the best way I candescribe it.
It's like an energy orfrequency, but it's intuition.
So that's why it's hard to makeit a tangible discussion,
(10:58):
because it's something that Ifeel.
I feel it in my body, I feel itin my hands, I feel it in my
chakras.
When I'm working on someone, Ican feel if someone's having
something in their heart chakra,I'll start having pain in my
chest and the pain can bedifferent.
It just depends on who, what'sgoing on with them, and I'll
start feeling it in differentareas of my body.
So then I know like, okay, Ineed to go there first.
That's what's going on.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
So I'm hearing you're kind of like tuning into
someone first.
You're kind of like tuning intowhere they are and then working
with what you're finding.
That's really cool.
I love that, so it's so cool.
So what kind of I want to talkabout?
Like, what kind of led you toyour spiritual journey?
Because I think that for a lotof us it's like not necessarily
(11:42):
in the ways you would thinkright, and I have a guess of
what yours is, but I don'treally know your story.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Just with my background.
I was an athlete growing up andreally into fitness.
I mean I started getting intofitness and weightlifting when I
was younger, so in grade schoolI, and then in high school.
So I started running kind ofweightlifting when I was in
seventh grade.
Then when I got to high school,it was all about physical
fitness and so it was all aboutand I had a lot of body
(12:09):
dysmorphia issues as well.
So I think that's somethingthat people that know me really
well know that about me.
But I just always saw myself aslike I was always unhappy with
the way I looked and I wasfrustrated.
So I'd push myself physicallyand that's and I'm like you know
what I need to just keeppushing myself and pushing
myself.
And as I kind of got older, Istarted realizing like there was
(12:29):
a break in my spirituality andI mean I had my beliefs and I
had, you know, physical fitness,but it was bringing it all
together and it was starting tocause like emotional and mental
issues.
So I also have depression andanxiety throughout my life where
I never thought it was thatuntil I got a little older and
went to a counselor and Irealized like, oh it's, it's
(12:50):
anxiety, it's depression, andpart of it is my outlet was
working out and my outlet wassports and competition.
And I realized when I startedgoing to a counselor I think in
2017 or 18, um, this was moreabout me and there were some
things that I needed to work oninternally and so that kind of
started that journey.
(13:10):
It was actually I had a reallywonderful counselor and it was
someone who really connectedwith me and kind of saw what was
going on and helped me andguided me towards like hey, you
know, it's interesting that youchoose to work out or go run
seven miles and then it's notbut that's but you're still
frustrated.
And so I think she was helpingme understand of about
(13:33):
meditating and like sitting backand hey, maybe try yoga, slow
down, you don't have to go andburn 500 calories to like work
out your frustration.
Some of it is just sitting backand like just being for 20
minutes, which I'm always a goer.
Let's go get a go.
So I realized like there waswork that I needed to do because
(13:54):
I was not comfortable justbeing and I always had to be
going.
So that kind of started thathealing journey and it just
turned into something else andthen kept going and kept going
and now I've got to the Reiki,like I said, in 2021, and then
became, you know, started toactually working on people and
I'm slowly growing that businessbecause I can teach it as well.
(14:14):
So I'd like to go into that.
Where I can help guide.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I want you to teach me.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yes, I would love to, and part of that too is, I
think, growing up and and evenin, like I go down one field for
work.
So, like I, you know corporateroles and supply chain and
that's great.
I mean, I had to go for acareer and I'm doing that but
I've always felt like it wasn't,I wasn't connected to a purpose
.
I have my family and I havethat purpose there, but it's
(14:40):
also like I felt like there wassomething more that I should be
doing, and part of that is likehelping people.
So, even with that, it's likealso guiding of hey, I'm
struggling with finding mypurpose in being there and being
able to talk to somebody aboutthat, because I know what that's
like.
I know what it feels like tojust feel lost and not sure what
am I supposed to be doing,because I feel like there's more
(15:01):
to my life than just going towork every day.
I want to do something, I wantto give back, and so this was
something that, when I opened itup the first time, I was able
to do Reiki on somebody, I waslike, wow, I feel so empowered.
I felt like I really helpedsomebody out and it's exciting.
It's exciting to help people,especially because I know what
it feels like.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Yeah, it's like I love this because I like I don't
know if I saw the theme untilnow, but like it's like this.
I think it's an age also likewell, it's like the
perimenopause age is like thejourney inward, but it's like a
lot of my guests on here, it'slike it is.
It's the whatever has gottenthem to start looking internally
.
It's like the softening we'reall looking for these.
(15:43):
External, we're pushing.
We're doing all this like hardwork, but then when we stop, we
soften and we turn in.
That's when we find like whatwe're, what really shines, what
really makes us light up, whatwe love.
And that's kind of the workyou're doing when you're working
with Reiki.
Right, you're working withpeople, helping people to turn
in as well.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Yeah, it's.
It's a lot of times people aregoing through transitional
periods in their life or justthey're struggling to maybe they
feel clouded or they feelfrustrated with something, and
so if they come in yeah, stuck Ithink that's a good, a good way
to describe it so they'll getReiki or go I mean even massage,
like those different types ofhealing modalities.
(16:22):
They'll go try and kind ofstart seeking out, like I need
something to help me, kind ofcalm, and with Reiki you're
laying there for 45 minutessometimes, sometimes an hour,
and think about how often,besides sleeping at night, are
you just quietly resting andjust not go go going.
So it's an a great opportunityfor deep meditation, while you
(16:42):
have a Reiki practitioner doingsome energy work over you and
and so some of it you can touch,and there's some parts of like
my touch, your like head or yourcrown chakra, um others you I
can just hold my hands over andI can feel the energy moving,
and so the whole idea is to keepit, to get, like you, to a high
level of vibration throughoutyour whole body and kind of
(17:03):
clear some of those spaces thateither the energy is not moving
or it's kind of it's maybe alittle bit broken and so it's
just, and that either the energyis not moving or it's kind of.
It's maybe a little bit brokenand so it's just, and that's the
opportunity for them to likeenjoy just some rest, relaxation
while someone's working overthem.
But part of it, too, is likeyou said they're, they're
seeking outward.
But I think you said it verywell earlier is when you said
(17:25):
all of a sudden we turn insidebecause the answers that you're
looking for you already know.
It's just having thatconfidence to always stop
looking to other people and toother things to find the answer.
A lot of it is just sittingback and just getting
comfortable with who you are andwhat you really enjoy learning
to trust that, like internalintuition telling you or like
(17:45):
firing you up in some way.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, yeah, yes, I love that.
I love modalities like this too, because even though I'm like a
huge advocate for therapy, Ihave tons of therapists that
come on this and we'll continueto have tons of therapists.
There's just so much, only somuch work you can do talking.
You know what I mean.
There's so there's other kindsof work that can be done that
they're like words can't dojustice to, and some of that is
(18:09):
like energy work and you knowlike things get stuck in your
body, like I can't tell you howmany guests have referenced that
book the body keeps the score,but it's true, that's a great
book.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
It is so true.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Hold emotions in certain areas of our body.
We hold things we also like,hold around things.
We don't want to deal with them.
Of our body, we hold things wealso like, hold around things
and we don't want to deal withthem.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
So so Reiki is so important for helping to get the
flow like things flowing?
I think so.
Is that?
So what are some things thatyou do to kind of help you when
you're struggling or when youare looking to kind of break
through something or transformthat transform, but I mean like
when you're working throughsomething in your life?
What are some of the practicesthat you look for?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Well, I do a lot of different things.
I find myself as like a veryeclectic person where something
doesn't suit me, forever, likeI'm not like the person that has
like one go to.
But I have a lot of differentthings.
So it's like an emotional angst, hot yoga I feel like I have to
burn, literally burn it off,and like now, I live pretty far
from any hot yoga.
So last year I was reallyfrustrated.
(19:12):
I dug a humongous garden patch,like I physically went out
there and exhausted myself.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Nature's amazing for that, though.
That's like there's a lot ofgrounding.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
That happens when you're out in nature, yeah, and
now, every year I make it betterand that thing's like my
passion project, like that's mysoul and I get it's like the
same time of year every yearwhere I need to burn off the
yanks, cause it's like thewinter that I'm burning off, and
so it's like the perfect timeto go out there and go ham.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
So it works.
Is that part of your practicetoo?
Isn't that like your monthlythat you guys talk about?
Hey, you know summer's comingin, winter's coming out when you
know spring's coming here.
So there's like differentthings that you guys do to
transition.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and I, I just, I always
try to listen to my body.
I feel like that's one thingI've always been pretty good at
is like staying in connectionwith my body, what it's telling
me which, as a very flighty,airy person, I don't know how I
have been able to do that, butit has helped me greatly Um,
because sometimes I just like,honestly, have slept for a week
straight too, if that's what mybody was like exhausted, when,
(20:14):
when, through the years that Iwas really burnt out, I feel
like one year of my relationshipwith my husband I spent
sleeping on the couch and all ofmy free time.
But I also think that it wasafter a great healing where I
finally felt safe and so my bodywas like finally able to rest.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
So it's all kinds of things, but I like, and I like
that you bring up the burnouttoo, cause I I didn't mention
that but um, with work as well,I feel a couple of years ago,
especially during COVID you know, I work in supply chain, so
imagine that we got hit prettyhard as well, trying to move
product all over the world, andit is just you got, I just got
(20:52):
to a point of just full burnoutand I and I still feel it.
I mean, I still feel it hit meat times and I realized, man, I
really need to take a step backwith work, like I, I was putting
so much into it and I love it.
I just wanted to make sure thatI'm also like finding time for
myself, and that's when Istarted kind of looking for what
can I do to help myself heal.
(21:13):
And so massage was great andyoga, but then it started
expanding.
I was like I want to connectmore, I guess, connect the
spiritual side of myself too,and find out not just only
physically, but kind of get thattripod of your, like your, your
mental, emotional and physicalstate and connect those together
.
And so that's where some ofthat energy work came in.
But it, the burnout I mean itis it's rough.
(21:35):
It is rough.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
I feel like so many people are feeling it these days
too.
There's so much going on.
Women carry so much likeeverybody's, like dual income
households, like there's just somuch going on like everybody is
feeling it, and it's just somuch going on Like everybody is
feeling it, and it's really hardin those moments to choose
yourself which is exactly whatyou need to do.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Well, the more that you you are comfortable in your
own skin and that you areworking on yourself, the better
you are for everybody else inyour life, because you're in a
better state.
Cause I know when I'm gettingto that ramp up portion, I'm
starting to get snappy and justlike and and not not who I want
to be.
So that's where I will do likemeditation.
(22:19):
Before I jumped on this, Iactually took a bunch of my
little crystals.
I had cleared them and putReiki into them me too because
we bought crystals at our faircrystals.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
We bought crystals together.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
But I was doing some meditation as well to kind of
ground myself.
And when I run I mean this issound silly, but I was running
yesterday and when I went for myrun I was, you know, calling on
the energy source and askingfor the ability for that energy
to run through my chakras andclear me.
And that's like a big part oflike that's how I sometimes will
heal.
I'll be like all right, well,I'm going to work out, I'll do a
(22:51):
little healing myself, go run.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
I love that you said that, cause that's something I
wanted to say on the podcastthat I got reminded of today is
about how clear important it isto clear energy.
So this is something I'm newlytrying to do as of the past
month, because I worked, we justworked with another coach over
the last month with Ashley knowsabout, and I'm going to have
her on the podcast soon.
This awesome experience I didwith another coach, she'll come
up.
But one of the things she toldme was like you have to find a
(23:15):
way to get rid of all the energythat you absorb in a day when
you go to the hospital, likebecause I was just talking to
her about like sensations and mybody and all this, and she's
like sounds like you're not andI'm like, no, I don't, I'm not
clearing my energy.
But today I went and I had thisreading and the woman told me
the same thing.
She's like hospitals are sotoxic and so heavy, like you
(23:36):
have to make a conscious effortto clear that because it's a lot
to carry, and so it just.
It's something that's beenresonating with me and just
getting deeper and deeper.
And so I want to say thatbecause I want a lot of nurses
out there to think about that,like we say, like we leave our
stuff at the door or whatever,but consciously making an effort
at some point when you walk outof there, to like maybe do a
(23:57):
body scan or something and justphysically or not physically,
visually, like imagine thisenergy, giving it back to the
earth and getting it out ofyourself, because there's a lot
of energies we're dealing withall day and a lot of crazy stuff
.
So, and honestly, we're not theonly ones.
That's.
All I can relate to ishealthcare, but I'm sure the
environment is the same.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
And I want to point out that the person that she was
went to for reading that toldher to clear, is the lady that
taught me, did the Reiki mastertraining with me for Holy Fire.
She's also a physical therapistand she's been a physical
therapist for years, so sheworks in that field and she also
does energy work on the side,so she does understand, like,
the depths and the heaviness ofworking with different patients.
(24:41):
So something that you can thinkabout when you're clearing, for
example, when I'm running, ifI'm trying to clear, sometimes
I'll say, hey, if, if thisrelationship, any relationships
that no longer serve me and I nolonger serve them, please sever
the energetic tie to that.
Oh yeah, that was a goodbecause it opens space.
It opens space for your energyfield to accept the, the
energies that you need in yourlife and the people that you
(25:03):
need in your life, and it opensspace for them because they
don't need to be tied to you.
If you, if you, don't benefitone another, then there's no
need for them to be tied to you.
Uh, some other things when you,you can ground, you can use
salt, you can take magnesiumbaths um, water is very good for
clearing, as sometimes, when Iget done with clients, it is two
, three, one, two, three and itjust kind of cuts, it severs
(25:25):
that tide at them.
Because that was growing up andI'm sure you're very similar
because you're you're veryempath, you're, you're an empath
, I can tell.
But I would walk into a room andI always struggled being around
a big group of people and I waslike man, I was in a good mood
and I'd walk in and I'd feeloverwhelmed and it was because
there's so much energy coming atme and I was feeling other
people's anxiety and frustrationand I was like, oh man, like
(25:49):
that person's really frustrated.
I don't know why, I know that,but I know they are and it just
was overwhelming at times and Istarted realizing, oh, I am
absorbing other people's energyand I don't need to.
So I put a block up when I walkinto some of the larger spaces
where I'll just I'll say, okay,blocks up, I need to block
myself, my energy field fromother people, and it's nothing
(26:10):
against anyone, it's just that Idon't need to carry somebody
else's energy with me, likethat's, and you don't need to
carry somebody else's energywith you either, it's so.
That's something to think about.
It helps.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
It's like being intentional about it setting an
intention for that space, whichI love because it's not any
different than like how proathletes visualize success or
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
It's visualization.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Yeah, it's huge being intentional working that.
I love that.
So here you actually brought upa great question.
I wanted to ask you on herebecause I think maybe, like
Ricky, it's just like a newerthing, especially in our area
where we live, the midwest.
Like when I went out west itwas much more like people were
doing that 10 years ago.
It was more accepted, but here Ifeel, like it's slow growing,
right, all these like new agethings are slow growing.
(26:53):
But what can Reiki help with?
Like what kind of people do youthink what kind of journeys
that people are on, or where canReiki really help people, or
what kind of people can reallyReiki really have it make a
difference for, I think?
For one, I'll say people needto be open to it.
Right?
That's what I've heard about alot of these things.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Yeah, if you, if you go in and you're very closed off
to it, it's it's an intelligentforce.
It's not going to work on youif you are not open to it.
It's just so if you, I think alot of it is going in and making
sure that you are open and thatyou're just like.
You know what.
I'm just going to try it, seehow it goes and and even if you
want to do a little research,research, reikiorg is a great
resource.
(27:31):
You can get on there.
They have the history, thebackground, all of the
information, what to expect.
I'm sure you can watch YouTubevideos to have, like, what to
expect when you go into a reikisession.
It is really good for anyonewho is looking for maybe an
external, another or anotherlayer of healing like modality
yoga and meditation.
You're like I just wantsomething else.
(27:52):
It's something interesting totry.
I would say, just try it, andif it's not for you, it's not
for you, that's okay, but youknow, be open to trying it.
So I think anyone going throughthose times in their life where
they're maybe feeling a littlebit heavy I know when I need
Reiki is when I'm I just feelheavy, like my energy field
feels heavy.
(28:12):
Everything feels heavy.
I will tell you, the first timeI had it I walked away and I
felt like I like 10 pounds ofjust stress like kind of lifted
off of me and I remember goingWhoa, like it was so strange and
it.
But it felt amazing because Iwalked away thinking like man,
this is amazing.
I actually just feel likelighter.
So it's something.
(28:33):
Sorry, my dog's in the back, no.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
I love it.
Luda's been on several times.
She's not in here right now.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, um, so it's.
I think for anyone who is oneopen to it, they're looking for
another way to kind of help justheal, their heal, whatever's
going on in their life, maybesomething they're in a
transitional part of their lifeor a transformational part of
their life where they're justtrying to seeking, like they're
on their own spiritual journeyor their just own journey in
general, where they're likethere's something else out there
that I I am looking for, Iwould say getting into some of
(29:06):
the healing arts.
There's reiki, there's pranichealing.
There's a lot of different artsthat you can get into and a lot
of different modalities thatyou can get into, but Reiki is
just something that it's reallyfor anyone, if you're open to it
, I would say.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I love that.
I love that Now, so that you'restarting to see clients where
and how can people find you?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
I'll send my email, and then I have my phone number
as well that I can share but youcan get ahold of me right now I
will.
I'm starting to see them atStages Wellness.
So that's in downtownBelleville.
I can also, yes, belleville,illinois.
I've gone to some friends'houses.
Happy to do that as well Ifit's local.
But and I also I work full time, so usually I'm on the weekends
(29:50):
when I'm available.
But Sage's Wellness is one thatI'm going to start seeing
clients at and it's like I said,it's slowly starting out.
So this is you're seeing me atthe beginning of my journey.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
You're going to be a little nervous.
Of course, Say your email forpeople that may not want to look
up the show notes.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
IndigoSageBalance at gmailcom.
So the business is Indigo Sageand Balance is what I'm calling
it.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I love it, I love it, love it, love it.
Okay, ashley, I ask everybody,what's your go-to self-care when
things are like out of control?
Speaker 2 (30:26):
I control, I would say meditation and then I love
doing a magnesium bath and justreading a book while I know
sounds so silly, but I listen tolike chakra clearing music on
Spotify.
I'll just turn it on, it haslike different Hertz levels, and
so I'll just listen to that,read a book and just relax,
(30:48):
because sometimes and that'swhen I'm like really burnout
Like I just need 30 minutes tojust be by myself.
So that's my big thing.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
I love that I have found myself more and more doing
a lot of sound healing withoutwords.
I think it has to do with, likehaving an overstimulated
nervous system, but I'm loving alot.
Have you ever been on insighttimer?
Do you have insight timer?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yes, I have been using that one for years too.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Okay, me too, and I always like give it a club
because it's free and has likelike thousands and thousands of
free content, of all this stuffwe're talking about in courses
and all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
And I love sound healing.
Sound healing is amazing.
I I've gone to severaldifferent sound healing sessions
.
I have just been blown away.
Every time I go I just I reallyenjoy it.
It's something differentSometimes, if it can be really
intense and it's a little bitoverwhelming, but it it's
amazing, Like you can feel theenergy working through you and
(31:43):
it's it's fantastic.
If you ever want to try one, ifyou have a sound healing near
you, go try it out.
It's cute.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
I'm going to talk about it with the next coach.
But I just went through anintense sound healing but it
made me want to do Reikiafterwards, like you know what I
mean.
It made me feel more open tothat.
Actually, you know what I mean.
I feel like now that I've donethat and like shook some things
loose, that Reiki might actuallybe more, I might get more out
of it, because I feel like I'velike opened myself a little more
(32:11):
with the sound therapy, so Wellwhen you were back with the
card reader today, the lady washad just come out of a Reiki
session at the metaphysical fairand she said she goes.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
I had sound healing and then I had Reiki and the
Reiki practitioner said it wasso intense even doing Reiki on
her because she had just gottenlike this vibrating yeah, she
said oh, the Reiki session waseven intense.
As the practitioner she's likeI could tell she had been
through something.
So you're bringing up anawesome point of.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
It's probably a great to duel them together if you
can yeah, I think a lot of theseum of these like healing
modalities combined actuallyhelp like benefit each other In
my experience, like yoga isamazing for connecting to your
body and that, just for me, hasopened the door to many, many
more other modalities that Ididn't even know.
(33:02):
I would like like sound healingand all that stuff.
So and like, the first time Ihad Reiki was at a yoga retreat.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
So, oh, that's right, you told me about that, yeah,
but I didn't know what it was,and nothing happened.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
but I wasn't open to it because I thought she was
weird that she came up to me anddid it, so like I felt nothing
and I was totally skeptic.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Well, that's a big thing too.
It's having the permission andmaking sure hey, is this okay?
Is this what you?
Are you giving me permission toprovide, to give you Reiki.
I think it's always having thatrapport with people and being
very respectful of theirboundaries and their space,
Cause it's you don't ever wantto have that experience where
someone has a terribleexperience because of something
like that, or whether you'relike I didn't feel anything.
(33:42):
It was just really strange,just because they, their
boundary was up and their wallwas up, because they weren't
comfortable with you being intheir space.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Yeah, and I think that's another reason I wanted
to have you on too is because Ididn't really know what it was
at that point.
It's not really until, like youand I talked, I really
understood a little bit moreabout kind of where it is or
where it comes from.
Then, when you and I did, I wassuper open to it.
When her, I'm like what is up,I know.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Who are you Like?
Oh man, my head was spinningand when you're up by my crown
chakra, I was like I know Icould feel it.
So and I think that's somethingtoo to point out with all of
the different like yoga andsound healing and everything I.
I teach fitness classes as wellat a gym in downtown and that's
something that I was like, oh,I'd love to like figure out how
(34:27):
to incorporate all of that,because I know what it's like to
put a lot of focus intophysical fitness and there's
like there was a disconnect.
I was like, and so when Istarted adding in meditation,
yoga and doing different healingmodalities, I it started
helping me open up a little bitmore and I just felt like an
ease over my kind of spirit.
(34:48):
I was like, okay, you know I cando the physical fitness, I can
do, you know all of it and itjust balanced out my entire, I
guess my life really, at the endof the day, it's it's trying to
find balance and I struggleevery day.
Don't worry, I struggle everyday with balance.
Everyone does every, everysingle day.
I am not totally balanced allthe time.
I'm not.
Right now I feel very balanced,but tomorrow I can tell you
(35:10):
I'll wake up and I won't feelbalanced when I'm trying to get
my kids to school.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
So right, immediately off.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Everybody's got to get out of the house and no one
is ready.
All right, this is great.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
I love that.
I love that.
Well, it's been so fun havingyou on.
I'm so happy to come on Um surethat we will do this again,
because oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
So I'm excited.
Thank you for having me on, andI'm really excited for your
coaching business too.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Thank you.
Is there anything you want toleave us with before we go?
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Oh gosh, you put me on the spot here.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
You don't have to have anything.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
I think I think something I don't know.
I feel like I need to sharethis Having the confidence
within yourself when you haveskeptics around you every day
and that's okay, like we're allon different journeys, we're all
doing different things and youdon't have to agree with what I
do I don't have to agree,whatever it is, I'm on my own
journey and I think that it'sreally important for ourselves
(36:08):
is to have that confidence inyourself of if this is right for
you or whatever path is rightfor so long.
So just trust yourself andtrust your gut and whatever you
(36:33):
know life is telling you is theright path for you.
Just trust it.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
I love that and I'll add to that and say and then
surround yourself with peoplethat believe in you and are
doing similar things, because ithelps you keep.
Maintain that, because it'ssuper hard when it's and it's
okay that people around youdon't get it.
They don't need to leave yourlife, but then you need to add
people in your life who do sothat you can keep doing what you
(36:57):
need to do.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
So you're like a sounding board for me too, and
I'm like, okay, I'll hear fromyou.
And I'm like, okay, it'scalling me back.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
You too.
You're one of my circle.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
I mean, like you're my community of people that hold
me up, so that's one of thereasons I wanted to have you on
here too.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Well, thank you, sorry for the door slamming in
the back, but my sons arefighting right now so I didn't
hear it.
I think I heard my husbandcoughing earlier.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
It's okay, oh, I was like there goes the balance
again you know, I use somesoftware.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
It might not even be on here.
We'll see what happens.
Okay, all right, bye.
We'll say bye now stop ramblingokay.
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